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| r_schestowitz | RMS: | Oct 03 04:45 |
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| r_schestowitz | > You can add notes in those articles to say which points you have corrected. | Oct 03 04:45 |
| r_schestowitz | > That would correct the incorrect info without actual deletion of anything. | Oct 03 04:45 |
| r_schestowitz | I will add notes at the top of these articles so say you want people to support the FSF, with link to the statement that you made. | Oct 03 04:45 |
| r_schestowitz | Sue to an incorrect login attempt I now on SSH block list. Can do I flush it or white list myself (TR/HV)? | Oct 03 04:45 |
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| r_schestowitz | after a little testing (I know it can be done more neatly) I think I have something which works OK for IRC logs | Oct 03 07:21 |
| r_schestowitz | I might upload that soon (scripts also) | Oct 03 07:21 |
| r_schestowitz | > Thanks, | Oct 03 07:24 |
| r_schestowitz | > There is a change in URL: | Oct 03 07:24 |
| r_schestowitz | > https://neritam.wordpress.com/2019/10/01/things-we-miss-while-punishing-richard-stallman/ | Oct 03 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | Things we miss while punishing Richard Stallman – neritam | Oct 03 07:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | I have updated the URL in my notes and posts. The only link is now broken. | Oct 03 07:24 |
| r_schestowitz | ^^ new re RMS | Oct 03 07:24 |
| r_schestowitz | from Kerala, IIRC | Oct 03 07:24 |
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| r_schestowitz | For a number of years I was mostly sceptical and dismissive of claims of a cultural takeover of technical projects through social causes; in light of more recent events, inc. RMS smears, I'm compelled to reassess. It can be talked about. It harms these social causes as they're misused. | Oct 03 07:40 |
| r_schestowitz | (by people looking to steal power though them) | Oct 03 07:40 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: some of this is the wild west nature of the internet is coming to the end. | Oct 03 07:41 |
| r_schestowitz | I don't think so | Oct 03 07:41 |
| oiaohm | Legal system is basically catching up to the internet. | Oct 03 07:41 |
| r_schestowitz | you cannot police people to that level | Oct 03 07:42 |
| r_schestowitz | some of this pertains to conferences too | Oct 03 07:42 |
| oiaohm | That does not stop legal system from trying. | Oct 03 07:42 |
| r_schestowitz | and prior to the Internet people made tasteless remarks too | Oct 03 07:42 |
| r_schestowitz | So it's not about the Internet | Oct 03 07:42 |
| r_schestowitz | The Internet aspect of the lynch mobs | Oct 03 07:42 |
| oiaohm | tasteless remarks by people in enterprise positions outside the internet have seen them fired as well. | Oct 03 07:43 |
| r_schestowitz | not just Internet | Oct 03 07:43 |
| oiaohm | Having good technical grounds under law is not excuse for verbal abuse or being morally questionable in a management position. | Oct 03 07:46 |
| oiaohm | The change is not just the internet. There have been some very old laws that effect those in management positions and other positions of power that have been ignored that were woken up to be enforceable. | Oct 03 07:47 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: remember lynch mobs also came a problem as the wild west in the USA ended. We are going to see lynch mobs take credit for what happened due to legal world changes. Then push forwards and most likely end up in legal hot water themselves. | Oct 03 07:52 |
| oiaohm | Human history repeats. | Oct 03 07:52 |
| r_schestowitz | The logs are now online | Oct 03 07:57 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/ | Oct 03 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /irc-archives | Oct 03 07:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | e.g. the jgay debate | Oct 03 07:57 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.html | Oct 03 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 | Oct 03 07:57 | |
| r_schestowitz | we'll try to post them daily from now on... | Oct 03 07:57 |
| r_schestowitz | >> The logs are now online | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/ | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> e.g. the jgay debate | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.html | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> we'll try to post them daily from now on... | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | >> | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > Ok. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > BTW what is josh playing at? He's been around long enough to know the | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > emnity that most business executives have been trained to have against | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > him. Back in the 1990s, it was about his attire. They just couldn't | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > wrap their heads around the fact that he did not wear a tie and kept the | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > focus on that so no one would notice that he was talking about Software | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > Freedom and that it was beneficial even to the business community. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | I wrote yesterday or the day before that... that they had run out of 'material', so started making stuff up. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | IMHO, the attacks on him were faaaaar more several a decade ago. His image improved in recent years. | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | Josh is with EEE (you can see the IRC log online now). He has an issue with me not being corporate-friendly (I think that's in late Sept 30 IRC log... I'll produce older ones once we have confidence in these scripts). | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > PS. The old talking points about Free Software making it hard for | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > developers to get paid still gets circulation. I heard it live recently | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > from a developer who has only ever developed in-house code and benefits | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | > daily from FOSS. :/ | Oct 03 08:15 |
| r_schestowitz | What I and Rianne do for a living shows there's lots of money in FOSS because code needs handling and servicing. It can also be customised. People pay a lot for that. | Oct 03 08:15 |
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| r_schestowitz | #techrights has begun the process of uploading IRC logs on a daily basis and some time soon there will be corresponding posts, maybe with highlights http://techrights.org/irc-archives/ | Oct 03 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Index of /irc-archives | Oct 03 10:02 | |
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| chomwitt | hi from greece | Oct 03 10:48 |
| r_schestowitz | hi | Oct 03 10:48 |
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| XRevan86 | https://layer8.space/users/killyourfm/statuses/102897116259013686 Microsoft ♡ Linux | Oct 03 12:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-layer8.space | Jason "Alpaca" Evangelho: "Well, I got one answer..." - Layer8 in Space | Oct 03 12:14 | |
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| r_schestowitz | thank, XRevan86 | Oct 03 12:22 |
| r_schestowitz | good pointer, all I needed was this screenshot | Oct 03 12:22 |
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| r_schestowitz | hi david, dyfet | Oct 03 15:23 |
| r_schestowitz | slow news day, unless you know something about GNU | Oct 03 15:24 |
| r_schestowitz | However, you might want to see what Joshua Gay told us | Oct 03 15:24 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-011019.html | Oct 03 15:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 | Oct 03 15:24 | |
| r_schestowitz | the tl;dr is, some people want FSF to become another Linux Foundation | Oct 03 15:25 |
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| dyfet | hi, I dont have any news, or gnus at the moment | Oct 03 15:36 |
| dyfet | but looking now... | Oct 03 15:37 |
| dyfet | hmm...arm 32 being wiped out...well, there are so many low end devices and uses that dont need 64 bit. I find it problematic that distros are skipping streight to risc-v 64, ignoring risc-v 32. But let me catch up on the rest... | Oct 03 15:39 |
| dyfet | but I know that's not what you were asking about ;) | Oct 03 15:42 |
| r_schestowitz | I try to look at the glass half ful | Oct 03 15:46 |
| r_schestowitz | I wrote something to that effect | Oct 03 15:46 |
| r_schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/10/01/richard-stallman-and-the-fsf/ | Oct 03 15:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | My Personal Position on Richard Stallman and the FSF: Details Will Eventually Emerge, Information Will Set Us Free (as in Freedom) | Techrights | Oct 03 15:46 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Windows Server is being clobbered. So much so that Microsoft is being forced to pretend to be happy about it (the whole “love” spiel that Stallman disputes; see yesterday’s media coverage, appended below [1-4])" | Oct 03 15:47 |
| dyfet | People use windows server? there is no sane economic model for it...oh, that's the point and problem they have. | Oct 03 15:49 |
| dyfet | So now azure is a being presented as a cushy place for gnu/linux clouds lest they have no marketshare at all left | Oct 03 15:50 |
| dyfet | that I do get | Oct 03 15:50 |
| r_schestowitz | a client of ours uses Windows Server | Oct 03 15:50 |
| r_schestowitz | But only one, among dozens of gnu/linux ones | Oct 03 15:50 |
| r_schestowitz | last night it crapped itself, so I was happy | Oct 03 15:51 |
| dyfet | if i want to setup a web server, a rest api, a micro service, etc, none of these make sense on windows server. It is too slow and heavy, as well as the cost. It is really in this respect in particular, which is now the present and future, where they seem dead. | Oct 03 15:52 |
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| dyfet | though systemd may well equalize gnu/linux with windows server as crap in these areas. it drags down a good and fast server into a bad and heavy one... | Oct 03 15:53 |
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| r_schestowitz | dyfet: and then you need an IBM support contract | Oct 03 15:56 |
| dyfet | bingo. As every real dev knows and understands we have got to get rid of that redhat (ibm) init that's making such a fuss... | Oct 03 16:01 |
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| dyfet | a "code of ethics" is different from a CoC, and the FSF always had one, it's embodied in the GNU manifesto and the 4 freedoms. | Oct 03 16:06 |
| r_schestowitz | there's also the law | Oct 03 16:09 |
| r_schestowitz | different countries, different laws | Oct 03 16:09 |
| r_schestowitz | but you can't for example just grope strangers or spread hate | Oct 03 16:09 |
| r_schestowitz | the CoC isn't needed for enforcing that | Oct 03 16:09 |
| dyfet | Exactly | Oct 03 16:09 |
| dyfet | But this claim that organizations need a strong ethics, and that a CoC is needed for that, these are two seperate things, and the latter is well defined already in the FSF | Oct 03 16:11 |
| r_schestowitz | sharp tso | Oct 03 16:11 |
| r_schestowitz | http://www.google.com/url?q=https://twitter.com/_sagesharp_/status/1042769399596437504%3Flang%3Den&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiy_bz9r4DlAhUjrXEKHZKbAc0QFjADegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3e4z6zTggWpewefVdLT-vz | Oct 03 16:11 |
| dyfet | (former) | Oct 03 16:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_sagesharp_: The new Code of Conduct explicitly says discrimination and harassment on the basis of sex or gender is not allowed… https://t.co/bDt17wLBTQ | Oct 03 16:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@_sagesharp_: The new Code of Conduct explicitly says discrimination and harassment on the basis of sex or gender is not allowed… https://t.co/bDt17wLBTQ | Oct 03 16:11 | |
| r_schestowitz | Notice similarity to RMS incident | Oct 03 16:11 |
| r_schestowitz | the whole "rape apologist" smear | Oct 03 16:11 |
| r_schestowitz | those who do not agree get BLOCKED | Oct 03 16:14 |
| r_schestowitz | classic bully at work | Oct 03 16:14 |
| r_schestowitz | these really horrible people try to fracture a development community | Oct 03 16:15 |
| r_schestowitz | and not based on technical merits/views | Oct 03 16:15 |
| r_schestowitz | instead along political lines | Oct 03 16:15 |
| dyfet | frand is patent fraud. "Fair and reasonable" to other large corporations only. It forces serfdom to do technology. | Oct 03 16:16 |
| r_schestowitz | JGay is happy with it | Oct 03 16:17 |
| r_schestowitz | see what I said to him in response | Oct 03 16:17 |
| dyfet | I am still catching up... | Oct 03 16:18 |
| dyfet | But since you asked what I thought....thats part of it | Oct 03 16:18 |
| r_schestowitz | https://twitter.com/dkegel/status/1179771166363308032 | Oct 03 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkegel: Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the… https://t.co/1wLMzIiIhL | Oct 03 16:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dkegel: Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the… https://t.co/1wLMzIiIhL | Oct 03 16:25 | |
| r_schestowitz | "Went looking for a missing Halloween Document, the presentation where a technical evangelist says "you are not the developer's friend". Couldn't find it, but did find" | Oct 03 16:25 |
| oiaohm | dyfet: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASTC-Restrictive-License good example of a frand trap. | Oct 03 16:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ASTC Texture Compression License Turns Out To Be Restrictive Outside Of Khronos APIs - Phoronix | Oct 03 16:36 | |
| dyfet | yep...but its frand, its just the u is upside-down.... | Oct 03 16:39 |
| oiaohm | dyfet: r_schestowitz With the CoC what country are you operating in. https://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/discrimination-policy.pdf Fun of Australia lot of what is in the CoC is required to operate here. | Oct 03 16:40 |
| oiaohm | Yes as a written up policy. | Oct 03 16:40 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe it's a new law | Oct 03 16:41 |
| r_schestowitz | interjected by those standing to gain from that sort of thing | Oct 03 16:41 |
| r_schestowitz | and if you dislike the law, you're a fascist sexist racist | Oct 03 16:42 |
| oiaohm | No its a old law in Australia that until the Catholic church screw up happened that turns out to be enforceable. | Oct 03 16:42 |
| oiaohm | 300 year old law in fact. Before Australia existed about workplace safety. | Oct 03 16:43 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: I highly suspect the USA could be the same old law from UK turn out to be enforceable. | Oct 03 16:44 |
| oiaohm | Its the legal duty of care to protect your employees from harm. | Oct 03 16:44 |
| r_schestowitz | with rules? | Oct 03 16:44 |
| r_schestowitz | the rules don't protect them and can sometimes hard them | Oct 03 16:45 |
| oiaohm | To the best of your ablity and this include having policies of guidance. | Oct 03 16:45 |
| r_schestowitz | there have been stories about false accusationsd | Oct 03 16:45 |
| r_schestowitz | suffice to say, the rules aren't being enforced against the bosses | Oct 03 16:45 |
| oiaohm | In the Catholic church cases here they are being enforced against the bosses. | Oct 03 16:46 |
| r_schestowitz | religions are lawless | Oct 03 16:47 |
| r_schestowitz | it's divine stuff | Oct 03 16:47 |
| r_schestowitz | with some people claiming to "speak for God" | Oct 03 16:47 |
| r_schestowitz | or say they're "possessed" when caught with their pants down (or a child's trousers down) | Oct 03 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Anyway, I heard some stories of CoCs misused | Oct 03 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | you see that in RMS, Torvalds, Tso and more | Oct 03 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | it's just a selective enforcement weapon | Oct 03 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | and you can leverage as weapon things they said or wrote ages ago, things that were perfectly legal | Oct 03 16:48 |
| r_schestowitz | Mozilla did that to Eich | Oct 03 16:48 |
| oiaohm | Torvalds verbal abuse on mailing list was risking coming a problem for him to return to Australia. | Oct 03 16:49 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-07/online-trolls-and-cyberbullies-in-nsw-face-tougher-new-laws/10348246 Like it or not Torvalds had to change his ways. Laws catching up with online bad behaviour. | Oct 03 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abc.net.au | Online trolls and cyberbullies in NSW face up to five years in jail under law change - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) | Oct 03 16:51 | |
| r_schestowitz | Torvalds did nothing unethical | Oct 03 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | he called out abuse | Oct 03 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | either in code or manners | Oct 03 16:51 |
| r_schestowitz | (which is why so many people defend him) | Oct 03 16:52 |
| oiaohm | By Australian law his personal attack style was cyberbulling. | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | He's not Australian | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | and it was not bullying | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | it's his project | Oct 03 16:52 |
| oiaohm | He comes to Australia for conferences held here. | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | so then what? | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | Arrest him at the airport? | Oct 03 16:52 |
| oiaohm | Legally yes. | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | haha | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | good luck | Oct 03 16:52 |
| r_schestowitz | bbiab | Oct 03 16:53 |
| oiaohm | They done it to other trouble makers with racest and other items. | Oct 03 16:53 |
| oiaohm | And held them for 3 years before return them home with no charge. | Oct 03 16:53 |
| r_schestowitz | They did not arrest Trump on arrival | Oct 03 16:53 |
| r_schestowitz | which only proves the point about selective enforcement | Oct 03 16:53 |
| r_schestowitz | and it's about corporate agenda, as t he corporations control the authorities | Oct 03 16:54 |
| oiaohm | Trump has diplomatic protection while he president. But Australian law is willing to wait until he is not. | Oct 03 16:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Australis rapidly becomes more of a joke than us | Oct 03 16:54 |
| r_schestowitz | so-called Encryption Bill | Oct 03 16:54 |
| r_schestowitz | Making it a crime to write secure software | Oct 03 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | among other lunacy | Oct 03 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: bs about Trump | Oct 03 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | excuses | Oct 03 16:55 |
| r_schestowitz | anyway, gtg | Oct 03 16:55 |
| oiaohm | r_schestowitz: https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/06/29/u-s-may-outlaw-uncrackable-end-to-end-encrypted-messaging-report-claims/ Not really. | Oct 03 16:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | U.S. May Outlaw Messaging Encryption Used By WhatsApp, iMessage And Others, Report | Oct 03 16:56 | |
| oiaohm | Australian law makers are more open about what all members of the 5 eyes have agreed todo. | Oct 03 16:56 |
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| r_schestowitz | oiaohm: ● NEWS ● #Australia ☞ Australian State's Proposed #AgGag #Law Threatens General Right To Protest, Critics Warn https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190927/07544343075/australian-states-proposed-ag-gag-law-threatens-general-right-to-protest-critics-warn.shtml | Oct 03 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian State's Proposed Ag-Gag Law Threatens General Right To Protest, Critics Warn | Techdirt | Oct 03 18:14 | |
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| MinceR | 03 175235 < oiaohm> He comes to Australia for conferences held here. | Oct 03 20:40 |
| MinceR | he should just refuse to go to conferences held in such shitholes then | Oct 03 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | ha | Oct 03 20:40 |
| MinceR | have fun running a Linux conference without Linus. | Oct 03 20:40 |
| r_schestowitz | welcome to aussie, matey, you're under arrest | Oct 03 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | under arrest for what?? | Oct 03 20:41 |
| r_schestowitz | For insulting Microsoft | Oct 03 20:41 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 03 20:42 |
| MinceR | for cyberbullying microsoft! | Oct 03 20:42 |
| MinceR | poor little microsoft needs a safe space. | Oct 03 20:42 |
| r_schestowitz | maybe Gaees can be invited instead of Linus | Oct 03 20:42 |
| r_schestowitz | He can fly the Lolita Express again to Aussie | Oct 03 20:42 |
| r_schestowitz | Now the the Lolita's "daddy" is dead | Oct 03 20:42 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-22/why-did-bill-gates-fly-epsteins-lolita-express-after-pedophiles-prison-stint | Oct 03 20:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Why Did Bill Gates Fly On Epstein's 'Lolita Express' After Pedophile's Prison Stint? | Zero Hedge | Oct 03 20:43 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9765834/bill-gates-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express/ | Oct 03 20:44 |
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| r_schestowitz | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7350469/Bill-Gates-flew-Jeffrey-Epstein-Loliota-Express-2013-years-pedophile-prison-stay.html | Oct 03 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates flew with Jeffrey Epstein on the Lolita Express in 2013 | Daily Mail Online | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| r_schestowitz | https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7377133/Bill-Gates-REFUSES-reveal-flew-Lolita-Express-Jeffrey-Epstein-prison-release.html | Oct 03 20:44 |
| r_schestowitz | BUT STALLMAN!! | Oct 03 20:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | Bill Gates REFUSES to reveal why he flew on Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein after prison release | Daily Mail Online | Oct 03 20:44 | |
| MinceR | re cyberbullying >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmMxz4cMKuc | Oct 03 20:46 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19070966 | Oct 03 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 03 22:25 | |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/629662.jpg | Oct 03 22:43 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: G-d snapped Their finger, the Squid lost its shell and G-d saw that it is good. | Oct 03 23:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Oct 03 23:14 |
| XRevan86 | Don't lol at me, all theories are valid! | Oct 03 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | it also happened during World War 2 | Oct 03 23:16 |
| XRevan86 | too far? (: | Oct 03 23:17 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Interesting video. | Oct 03 23:23 |
| MinceR | that's why i linked it :> | Oct 03 23:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Now it has my approval as well :P | Oct 03 23:27 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 03 23:31 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19072042 | Oct 03 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Oct 03 23:51 | |
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