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| schestowitz | They say US tech is so much better and more dominant | Nov 03 00:17 |
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| schestowitz | even if subsidised by the military and gov. | Nov 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | and they cannot even set up a proper election/voting system | Nov 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | that announces a winner within a day at most | Nov 03 00:17 |
| schestowitz | this is imperialism turned upon its head | Nov 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | messing around with so many elections worldwide | Nov 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | so no wonder they can't even run a proper process of their own | Nov 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | and few people participate in it | Nov 03 00:18 |
| schestowitz | (about half of those eligible) | Nov 03 00:18 |
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| schestowitz | https://sfconservancy.org/news/2020/nov/02/2020-11-hiring/ | Nov 03 00:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sfconservancy.org | Conservancy is Hiring! - Software Freedom Conservancy | Nov 03 00:29 | |
| vZS1 | Might see more participation with the mail in | Nov 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | they don't mention they recently lost employees | Nov 03 00:29 |
| vZS1 | I'm off to bed now though. Good night all | Nov 03 00:29 |
| schestowitz | gnight | Nov 03 00:29 |
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| oiaohm | pitty the Raspberry Pi 400 is only the 4G version instead of the 8G | Nov 03 01:20 |
| oiaohm | Also with my love of mechanical keyboards I don't think I could stand using Raspberry Pi 400 | Nov 03 01:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I'm going to send a thank you card to Jorge and Essence at the hotel. | Nov 03 03:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was a bit beat up, but we would have been screwed without it when we needed somewhere to stay. | Nov 03 03:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Last year I was hurting so badly financially that I just charged up the stay as far ahead as they let me. The manager made an exception to let me pay for 7 months at once. | Nov 03 03:10 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Essence as a name? | Nov 03 05:44 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Six more articles about Raspberry Pi 400 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143919#comment-27010 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e77a4638-f289-41f7-a13f-e23518912416] | Nov 03 06:03 | |
| schestowitz | http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2020/11/02/better-late-than-never-german-liberal-party-files-parliamentary-question-on-unified-patent-court/#comments | Nov 03 06:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Better Late Than Never โ German Liberal Party Files Parliamentary Question on Unified Patent Court - Kluwer Patent Blog | Nov 03 06:18 | |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Interesting, not one of the questions concerns the issue of Brexit and the hardcoding of London into the agreement. | Nov 03 06:18 |
| schestowitz | Yes, I know โGermanyโ provided an answer on that already, but the question is worth repeating, | Nov 03 06:18 |
| schestowitz | At least theyโre shaking the fig leafs. | Nov 03 06:18 |
| schestowitz | " | Nov 03 06:18 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: ^ | Nov 03 06:18 |
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| vZS1 | There's so many hoops to jump through to get stuff installed on ARM 32 bit | Nov 03 07:53 |
| vZS1 | The old raspberry pi models | Nov 03 07:53 |
| vZS1 | I'll spend today trying to get IPFS working on the Pi | Nov 03 07:54 |
| vZS1 | Once that's done I don't need to keep relying on my desktop for testing things out | Nov 03 07:54 |
| vZS1 | Hopefully should have an IPFS deployment functional before the weekend. | Nov 03 07:55 |
| vZS1 | On the Pi | Nov 03 07:55 |
| vZS1 | Then I'll work on getting a simple HTTP server set up with RSS for an index of what I'm pinning to my IPFS node. | Nov 03 07:56 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: once I've got the above functional, I'll get to work on that periodical I was talking about. I just want to put all worry about distribution out of the way first. | Nov 03 07:58 |
| schestowitz | hi | Nov 03 08:02 |
| vZS1 | Morning | Nov 03 08:02 |
| schestowitz | just caught up | Nov 03 08:06 |
| schestowitz | did you consider buying the keyboardPC (Raspi 400)? | Nov 03 08:06 |
| schestowitz | can run headless and without mouse for 50 quid, 4gb of ram | Nov 03 08:06 |
| schestowitz | heck, imagine someone setting up a RACK of those | Nov 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | then having to explain wtf is this rack with a stack of white keyboard in it | Nov 03 08:07 |
| schestowitz | *keyboards (if bought in bulk, you could stack about 30 of them for a grand) | Nov 03 08:08 |
| schestowitz | 120gb of ram, 30 cpus, maybe 60 cores | Nov 03 08:08 |
| schestowitz | you can swap in and out bad ones in case of hardware issues,without having to reopen any enclosures | Nov 03 08:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/11/02/whoever-wins-election-will-face-severe-eviction-crisis-30-million-brace | Nov 03 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Whoever Wins the Election Will Face Severe Eviction Crisis, as 30 Million Brace for Homelessness | Common Dreams Views | Nov 03 08:11 | |
| schestowitz | if you assume about 120 million >families<, that's like a huge chunk of the population | Nov 03 08:12 |
| schestowitz | would cause massive, unprecedented unrest | Nov 03 08:12 |
| schestowitz | People act differently when they're in the street or on the verge of being "ON the street" (out on) | Nov 03 08:12 |
| schestowitz | ugly week ahead for the US, starting perhaps tomorrow morning | Nov 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | fuelled of course by inflammatory and fascistic Trump "tweets" | Nov 03 08:13 |
| schestowitz | https://www.salon.com/2020/11/02/president-trump-tells-advisers-that-he-fears-prosecution-if-he-loses-the-election-report/ | Nov 03 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-President Trump tells advisers that he fears prosecution if he loses the election: report | Salon.com | Nov 03 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | This ugly fascist ain't leaving | Nov 03 08:14 |
| schestowitz | not without a war | Nov 03 08:14 |
| CrystalMath | personally i hope Trump wins | Nov 03 08:28 |
| CrystalMath | he could use the mass evictions to show that lockdowns are harmful, and use the supreme court to get lockdowns banned in the US forever | Nov 03 08:28 |
| CrystalMath | then we will live with viruses and get sick happily ever after :) | Nov 03 08:29 |
| *tessier bought an rpi 400 today | Nov 03 08:31 | |
| schestowitz | what a weird logic, CrystalMath | Nov 03 08:37 |
| schestowitz | it's like saying, let's self-nuke to "make a point" | Nov 03 08:37 |
| schestowitz | tessier: cool | Nov 03 08:37 |
| vZS1 | I've decided to take a little detour and streamline a cross-compiler toolchain setup for ARM. I don't want to rely on upstream to build packages for me. Obvious trust issues. | Nov 03 08:39 |
| vZS1 | I have much more peace of mind if I can just get source code repos/tarballs and work from there | Nov 03 08:40 |
| *psydroid builds everything except for kernels natively | Nov 03 08:40 | |
| vZS1 | I don't usually do it for stuff that's not part of a security project. | Nov 03 08:42 |
| schestowitz | how many of the pertinent packages and deps are downstreamed from MS/NSA? | Nov 03 08:43 |
| vZS1 | I have no idea | Nov 03 08:43 |
| schestowitz | to whit techrights.org/2020/05/17/gnuhub-pt-5/ | Nov 03 08:43 |
| schestowitz | even gnu is entangled | Nov 03 08:43 |
| schestowitz | a distro might be 60% entangled | Nov 03 08:44 |
| schestowitz | there need to be a MASS boycott of GitHub | Nov 03 08:44 |
| schestowitz | and mass removal of projects from there | Nov 03 08:44 |
| vZS1 | It's not just GitHub | Nov 03 08:44 |
| vZS1 | If you use anything with a codebase you don't know intimately, there's a chance of a backdoor | Nov 03 08:44 |
| vZS1 | And the applies to every big piece of software | Nov 03 08:45 |
| vZS1 | that* | Nov 03 08:45 |
| schestowitz | but you can trust the authors and hosts | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | for particular projects | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | not when they outsource to NSA | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | mind you, github added a 'feature' where they 'fix' the code for you | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | silently | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | "for security" | Nov 03 08:46 |
| vZS1 | There are some occasions where the only person you can trust is yourself | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | that can be misused in a lot of ways | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | is Signal still on shithub? | Nov 03 08:46 |
| schestowitz | (bunch of clowns) | Nov 03 08:47 |
| vZS1 | I've done work where everything just ran off generic microcontrollers | Nov 03 08:47 |
| vZS1 | Because the level of trust was very tightly controlled | Nov 03 08:47 |
| schestowitz | https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2020-May/018450.html | Nov 03 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.torproject.org | [tor-relays] Again: abuse email for non-exit relay (masergy) | Nov 03 08:48 | |
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| vZS1 | I don't know about everything in the Linux kernel | Nov 03 08:48 |
| vZS1 | Much less everything in GNU | Nov 03 08:48 |
| vZS1 | I don't know everything in the netfilter library | Nov 03 08:49 |
| vZS1 | At least with a microcontroller you have a datasheet that's digestible by one person. Slap on a few networking modules and you still can keep it in one brain. | Nov 03 08:52 |
| vZS1 | There's still hardware to worry about. | Nov 03 08:53 |
| schestowitz | the network stack is sometimes on it | Nov 03 08:54 |
| schestowitz | the risk for >remote< intrusion is the network | Nov 03 08:54 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i'm sorta an anti-humanist; and supporter of reducing the world's population | Nov 03 08:54 |
| schestowitz | if you don't have control over that, then you have control over nothing in your system | Nov 03 08:54 |
| vZS1 | That's why some things need to be air-gapped | Nov 03 08:55 |
| schestowitz | well, Trump support is compatible with "anti-humanist" | Nov 03 08:55 |
| CrystalMath | i think that humans should submit to nature's almighty will | Nov 03 08:55 |
| schestowitz | sounds like self-loathing tbh | Nov 03 08:55 |
| schestowitz | there are other ways to reduce population numbers, like abortions in cases of unwanted pregnancy | Nov 03 08:55 |
| schestowitz | and you know where your fascist stands on abortions | Nov 03 08:55 |
| CrystalMath | in 1990, Trump said he would never ban it | Nov 03 08:56 |
| schestowitz | we're in 2020 | Nov 03 08:56 |
| CrystalMath | and he didn't ban it | Nov 03 08:56 |
| schestowitz | and the fascist is putting moles in SCOTUS | Nov 03 08:56 |
| schestowitz | anti-abortions activists with robes | Nov 03 08:56 |
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| CrystalMath | that would indeed be sad but i don't think they'll ban it | Nov 03 08:57 |
| vZS1 | I don't know why people assume a supreme justice won't have an agenda | Nov 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | the "pro-lifers" who want to spread COVID widely to kill lots of people | Nov 03 08:57 |
| vZS1 | That's kind of the whole point. It's a political appointment | Nov 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: it's an old myth | Nov 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | like assuming the government wants people to have privacy and guard it | Nov 03 08:57 |
| CrystalMath | Amy Coney Barrett in particular said that the supreme court has too much power, and should be reduced | Nov 03 08:57 |
| schestowitz | no, | Nov 03 08:58 |
| schestowitz | she meant, | Nov 03 08:58 |
| schestowitz | she does not like what it decides | Nov 03 08:58 |
| schestowitz | and so, undermining it is the goal | Nov 03 08:58 |
| schestowitz | until it agrees more with her viewpoint | Nov 03 08:58 |
| schestowitz | which seems to be tied to an inhumane cult | Nov 03 08:59 |
| schestowitz | her dad was a lawyer for oil companies (Shell) for 30 years, I heard | Nov 03 08:59 |
| CrystalMath | idk, i like to be a consistent anti-humanist, i support abortion *and* viruses | Nov 03 08:59 |
| schestowitz | so the goal is tied to money at the expense of our survival | Nov 03 08:59 |
| schestowitz | many of the trump moles on SCOTUS came from suggestions from Koch think tanks | Nov 03 08:59 |
| schestowitz | like Federalist Society | Nov 03 09:00 |
| schestowitz | and they also lobby to crush patent reform (sanity) | Nov 03 09:00 |
| oiaohm | vZS1: Just because you have the data sheet of the Microcontrol does not mean you have been given all the documentation. https://github.com/xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter Its like running sandsifter here on x86 processes and finding stacks of not publicly documented op codes. | Nov 03 09:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - xoreaxeaxeax/sandsifter: The x86 processor fuzzer | Nov 03 09:00 | |
| schestowitz | github hosting = immediate self-discrediting | Nov 03 09:01 |
| schestowitz | more so if done after 2018 | Nov 03 09:01 |
| CrystalMath | i dislike github | Nov 03 09:01 |
| CrystalMath | i really dislike that ReactOS moved to there | Nov 03 09:01 |
| CrystalMath | in 2018, no less | Nov 03 09:01 |
| CrystalMath | that's when my contributions faded | Nov 03 09:01 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: that there was on github before Microsoft took over that is from 2017. | Nov 03 09:02 |
| oiaohm | The reality that x86 cpus had hidden non documented instructions was known before we had meltdown and spectra. | Nov 03 09:02 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i mean Trump really hasn't been acting like a republican at all, abortion is still legal, and now marijuana is too | Nov 03 09:03 |
| oiaohm | sel4 also has a hardware validation process and boy did a lot of arm chips fail. | Nov 03 09:03 |
| oiaohm | vZS1: basically Microcontroller datasheet is not good enough you need to be able to validate that the documentation on have been given is in fact right. | Nov 03 09:04 |
| vZS1 | oiaohm: > There's still hardware to worry about. | Nov 03 09:05 |
| vZS1 | In case you missed it | Nov 03 09:05 |
| vZS1 | There's no such thing as guaranteed security. Always different levels of risk. | Nov 03 09:06 |
| oiaohm | Doing sel4 stuff validation you go right down random sample destructive chip inspect. | Nov 03 09:06 |
| oiaohm | Along the way you find a lot of horrible. | Nov 03 09:07 |
| oiaohm | opcode documentation missing like that every 1 in a million operations the opcode is going to do something different to expected has turned up. | Nov 03 09:09 |
| oiaohm | vZS1: I agree there is no such thing of absolute guaranteed security. But there are a few things that will basically cook you ass 100 perecent of the time. One of those things is trusting that a vendors datasheet is 100 percent truthful. | Nov 03 09:10 |
| oiaohm | Mind you it may not be intentionally wrong it can be basic human error. | Nov 03 09:11 |
| mjg59 | Things like Spectre demonstrate that the datasheet is not adequate for this | Nov 03 09:13 |
| mjg59 | You can be 100% truthful and still not provide complete information | Nov 03 09:13 |
| oiaohm | Intel x86 cpu documentation before spectre was proven by tests like sandsifter to be not 100 percent truthful. | Nov 03 09:15 |
| oiaohm | Meltdown on particular platforms you could say is proof a truthful datasheet may not be good enough. | Nov 03 09:15 |
| oiaohm | powerpc if you read the datasheet carefully before Meltdown it documented the meltdown problem. | Nov 03 09:17 |
| oiaohm | Yet everyone basically missed it. | Nov 03 09:17 |
| schestowitz | [09:01] <CrystalMath> i really dislike that ReactOS moved to there | Nov 03 09:19 |
| schestowitz | but consider the objectives of the project | Nov 03 09:19 |
| schestowitz | treating a shitty OS like a role model | Nov 03 09:19 |
| oiaohm | Really after all the different MS people who have said reactos has copy infrignement I am supprised reactos is still there. | Nov 03 09:20 |
| oiaohm | As in Microsoft has not done anything. | Nov 03 09:20 |
| oiaohm | Mind you doing a DCMA would require showing hand. | Nov 03 09:21 |
| schestowitz | last I heard they even poached some devs | Nov 03 09:21 |
| schestowitz | way to kill off the project | Nov 03 09:21 |
| oiaohm | Attempting poach reactos developers have been going as long as reactos has existed. | Nov 03 09:21 |
| oiaohm | Exactly where else is Microsoft going to find developers with some skill doing maintaince work on NT class kernels. | Nov 03 09:22 |
| oiaohm | Its a very wrapped relationship between Microsoft and Reactos. | Nov 03 09:22 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i'm a ReactOS developer | Nov 03 09:26 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i did the 16-bit legacy support :) | Nov 03 09:26 |
| CrystalMath | i love DOS | Nov 03 09:26 |
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| vZS1 | Going to make myself scarce for a few days. Will keep up with stuff every now and then though. I installed Revoltion IRC on my phone to check in easily. | Nov 03 10:58 |
| vZS1 | Will update every now and then with progress on stuff. | Nov 03 10:59 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: ok, I am checking email tonight | Nov 03 11:42 |
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| vZS1 | Pretty neat stuff with the Arduino and ultrasonic motors. Just saw that in my feed | Nov 03 13:30 |
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| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/8e88678361ad1ddd.jpg | Nov 03 14:30 |
| scientes | MinceR, hahahahaha | Nov 03 14:35 |
| scientes | MinceR, https://entertainment.theonion.com/warcraft-sequel-lets-gamers-play-a-character-playing-wa-1819594788 | Nov 03 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-entertainment.theonion.com | 'Warcraft' Sequel Lets Gamers Play A Character Playing 'Warcraft' | Nov 03 14:36 | |
| MinceR | :) | Nov 03 14:37 |
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| MinceR | lol | Nov 03 14:39 |
| Narrator | well, simulatro of the simulator of the ... | Nov 03 14:42 |
| schestowitz | I still remember that one... | Nov 03 14:42 |
| Narrator | the rescue team who resue team who resue team ... | Nov 03 14:43 |
| Narrator | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seZUHRPJ7wE ;-) | Nov 03 14:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hot Shots 2 - 1993 - Official Trailer HD - YouTube | Nov 03 14:43 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: DXVK, ASUS, Valve, PCSX2 and More โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143965 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b3fd1d82-a561-4ded-a433-75ddb744d01d] | Nov 03 14:44 | |
| Narrator | .. the forgotten marial art of recursion ...;-) | Nov 03 14:46 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Donโt Exchange or Sell Your Old Laptops, Install Linux Lite Instead โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143969 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed3d9ca9-bfeb-4a55-b366-1aae147ade9d] | Nov 03 16:54 | |
| smnthermes | https://hugotunius.se/2020/10/31/flutter-web-a-fractal-of-bad-design.html | Nov 03 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hugotunius.se | Flutter Web: A Fractal of Bad Design | Nov 03 16:57 | |
| smnthermes | RIP | Nov 03 16:57 |
| schestowitz | yup | Nov 03 16:58 |
| schestowitz | good find | Nov 03 16:58 |
| schestowitz | we're working around that, somehow... | Nov 03 16:58 |
| schestowitz | soon | Nov 03 16:58 |
| schestowitz | www should be "legacy" | Nov 03 16:58 |
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| XRevan86 | https://morg.i.ng/objects/cfc8919c-7e94-4988-8950-05f2e4fd8c98 | Nov 03 17:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-morg.i.ng | Pleroma | Nov 03 17:18 | |
| liberty_box | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGn_rH7LejI | Nov 03 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Geese Parade in Belgium - YouTube | Nov 03 17:56 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Plasma 5.21 โ Top Upcoming Features and Release Date http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143878#comment-27029 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dc0acdc0-7c41-4a36-ad41-ab23e986ac4f] | Nov 03 18:04 | |
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| schestowitz | hi, tr_guest|81354 | Nov 03 18:04 |
| vZS1 | Data structures, in general, should be designed for humans first. React, Flutter, etc are all cost management tools; they allow a company to hire monkeys to build pretty user interfaces for applications. That's about all they're good for. | Nov 03 18:12 |
| vZS1 | I subscribe to Knuth's principle that programs, in general, should be for humans to read first and computers to interpret later. | Nov 03 18:14 |
| vZS1 | Look at Bash and AWK. After all these decades, they are still relevant because they solve real problems in a way people can interpret easily. They operate on very simple data structures and you can do just about anything with them together. | Nov 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | where did knuth say that? | Nov 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | I find awk hard to read personally | Nov 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | perl even harder | Nov 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | without proficiency | Nov 03 18:17 |
| schestowitz | bash is universal enough in the syntax sense and cli, so if you do sysadmin stuff and know basic constructs, then you're fine following examples | Nov 03 18:18 |
| schestowitz | when incorporating awk I often just copy-paste a block in, as I can barely construct one myself, except the very basic kind | Nov 03 18:19 |
| vZS1 | Let us change our traditional attitude to the con-struction of programs: Instead of imagining that our main task is to instruct a computer what to do, let us concentrate rather on explaining to human beings what we want a computer to do. | Nov 03 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | vZS1: Let's call it functional programming. | Nov 03 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | Patent pending. | Nov 03 18:23 |
| vZS1 | That's the original quote | Nov 03 18:24 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no swpats for YOU! | Nov 03 18:25 |
| schestowitz | or maybe you meant trademark | Nov 03 18:25 |
| vZS1 | From SICP "Programs are meant to be read by humans and only incidentally for computers to execute" | Nov 03 18:25 |
| XRevan86 | vZS1: Somehow without context that Knuth said it it doesn't sound all that profound :D | Nov 03 18:26 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143971 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0b6cd09e-33dc-4e69-8bbf-ee79613e8cbb] | Nov 03 18:26 | |
| vZS1 | Same goes for HMTL and XML. smnthermes was on the money with the shit-storm all these frameworks cause. | Nov 03 18:26 |
| vZS1 | That's why I'm such a big fan of Raku. The language is meant for people. | Nov 03 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Let's go with that, yea. | Nov 03 18:27 |
| XRevan86 | vZS1: I don't really agree, because Raku allows unnecessary variety that complicates the syntax. | Nov 03 18:28 |
| MinceR | if "Programs are meant to be read by humans and only incidentally for computers to execute" then it's no problem at all if they're full of bugs | Nov 03 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | Would be great if lawyers had the same sentiment. | Nov 03 18:29 |
| vZS1 | That's your opinion. (: | Nov 03 18:31 |
| schestowitz | IANAL-ANAL | Nov 03 18:41 |
| schestowitz | Talking anally to their clients, where the mouth is their back end | Nov 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | what's known as "taking out of his/her arse" | Nov 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | Trump has almost a literal rectum for mouth | Nov 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | (as we pointed out by many before) | Nov 03 18:42 |
| schestowitz | and his mouth movements when he talks contribute to that | Nov 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | Allegedly, according to disgraces reports, he also likes it when girls take the pi** | Nov 03 18:43 |
| schestowitz | and he means that literally | Nov 03 18:44 |
| schestowitz | bladder fetishes in the Gates mansion: http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/pee-gates/ | Nov 03 18:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Real โPee-gateโ Was on External (Portable) Media of Bill Gatesโ Engineer, Arrested Over Pedophilia at the Gates Mansion | Techrights | Nov 03 18:45 | |
| schestowitz | lots of footage of guys pissing | Nov 03 18:45 |
| schestowitz | some people apparently masturbate to such things, urination is something they perceive to be sexual | Nov 03 18:45 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kick Google Play Outside Your Smartphone With AuroraStore โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143972 [https://pleroma.site/objects/be68fa09-865e-4858-8090-ae25da5c6115] | Nov 03 18:50 | |
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| Chaekyung | damn http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/the-harassment-claims-in-full/ | Nov 03 19:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Outreachy as โHush Moneyโ (Bribe) From Monopolies | Techrights | Nov 03 19:02 | |
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| vZS1 | Chaekyung: read that earlier. Not surprised at all. | Nov 03 19:28 |
| vZS1 | The default option on Android is to store location history. That includes how long you've been in a certain location. | Nov 03 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got my futon. | Nov 03 19:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Very nice. | Nov 03 19:29 |
| vZS1 | You can turn off the tracking in Google Maps settings. But ofc it's not a simple task with an easy-to-find button. | Nov 03 19:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: cool | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what times do last polls close? | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I read 9am for ny | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | and another place | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | so I suppose that's where their counts start? | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Depends. 8 PM in Indiana I think. | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I voted early in Illinois. | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | I read 90 million early votes | Nov 03 19:33 |
| schestowitz | that's like... wow | Nov 03 19:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 100 million actually. | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | reinvents the whole concept of voting | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | not everyone voting all at once | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | but... covid | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I hope they arrest trump swiftly and firmly | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe December Surprise | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | Get the Kushners and his sons also | Nov 03 19:34 |
| schestowitz | to sweeten xmas and make up for covid-mess | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | I might even start watching TV for a change | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | just for >that< | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | oval office handcuffing | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism | Nov 03 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Authoritarianism - Wikipedia | Nov 03 19:35 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you read a political article with me? | Nov 03 19:35 |
| schestowitz | it is a draft | Nov 03 19:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If it's quick. | Nov 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Total Early Votes: 100,978,567 | Nov 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So almost 101 million in so far. | Nov 03 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Count will go up because states have to count it if it arrives by election day although some let it arrive days later if it was postmarked by election day. | Nov 03 19:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it'll go up after today too. | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I'm just adding 2 photos | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | some states accept late arrivals | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I forgot which ones | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | I think Pennsylvania is one | Nov 03 19:37 |
| schestowitz | Until week's end or something like that | Nov 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois is postmarked by election day and arrives up to 14 days after. | Nov 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Nationally, voters have cast 73.3% of the total votes counted in the 2016 general election." | Nov 03 19:38 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The school across the street is a polling place. | Nov 03 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doesn't look too busy though. I think most people early voted. | Nov 03 19:39 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/software-freedom-reforms/ | Nov 03 19:41 |
| schestowitz | quick... | Nov 03 19:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | If Mr. Biden Emerges as Preliminary/Tentative Winnerโฆ | Techrights | Nov 03 19:41 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | being bribe | Nov 03 19:43 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 03 19:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | and assume inauguration | Nov 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | assuming | Nov 03 19:44 |
| schestowitz | thanks, corrected | Nov 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Weโll observes the situation | Nov 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | observe | Nov 03 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, in a better world | Nov 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd jut say "In a better world" | Nov 03 19:45 |
| vZS1 | How early can you vote by post in the USA? | Nov 03 19:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Depends on the state. | Nov 03 19:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks, made those 4 changes | Nov 03 19:46 |
| vZS1 | Ah | Nov 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois starts mailing them 45 days before the election by law. | Nov 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't get mine for so long that I just canceled it out and voted in person. | Nov 03 19:46 |
| vZS1 | Those postal votes might just be the deciding factor | Nov 03 19:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably. | Nov 03 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I voted all Democrats straight down the line and for the progressive tax amendment in Illinois. | Nov 03 19:47 |
| vZS1 | I remember reading about the Reps always trying to make it hard for people to vote | Nov 03 19:47 |
| vZS1 | Which makes sense | Nov 03 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The progressive tax would raise $1.6 billion per year for the state while reducing our state taxes (me and Mandy) by about 0.2 percentage points. | Nov 03 19:47 |
| vZS1 | If they can make this postal voting thing a common occurrence, it might just change the entire landscape | Nov 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In some states, all voting is by mail. | Nov 03 19:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oregon and Utah have done it for a while now. | Nov 03 19:48 |
| vZS1 | Interesting | Nov 03 19:49 |
| vZS1 | So it shouldn't be that taboo to Trump | Nov 03 19:49 |
| vZS1 | I remember him making a big fuss about it not long ago | Nov 03 19:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks for checking, now it is finalised | Nov 03 19:53 |
| schestowitz | Notice we never told people how to vote | Nov 03 19:53 |
| schestowitz | but strategically it's important not to add to the chaos when the results are being disputed | Nov 03 19:54 |
| schestowitz | (it would be also rather pointless) | Nov 03 19:54 |
| vZS1 | When are the results announced? | Nov 03 19:54 |
| schestowitz | people spent a lot of time pressuring HRC in 2016, assume she'd bag it easily | Nov 03 19:54 |
| schestowitz | and then the other monster took power, with 3 million voters fewer | Nov 03 19:54 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: January 20th ;-) | Nov 03 19:54 |
| vZS1 | Lmao | Nov 03 19:55 |
| schestowitz | until then assume some "very fine people" can "do a JFK" | Nov 03 19:55 |
| schestowitz | with tweets appoving | Nov 03 19:55 |
| schestowitz | "LIBERATE DC!!!" -Trump | Nov 03 19:55 |
| vZS1 | > schestowitz: and then the other monster took power, with 3 million voters fewer | Nov 03 19:56 |
| schestowitz | I need to renews my strongswan key | Nov 03 19:56 |
| schestowitz | my colleagues are too lazy to lift a finger | Nov 03 19:56 |
| schestowitz | and it's already expired | Nov 03 19:56 |
| vZS1 | <insert electoral college meme here> | Nov 03 19:56 |
| Narrator | proper way is to raise tax:) | Nov 03 19:59 |
| Narrator | https://twitter.com/richimedhurst/status/1319517458756153345 | Nov 03 19:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@richimedhurst: Lmao whoever made this, on point. https://t.co/BdRTreaH6D | Nov 03 19:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@richimedhurst: Lmao whoever made this, on point. https://t.co/BdRTreaH6D | Nov 03 19:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Chromium Browser (Deb) Now Available to Install via Linux Mint 20 Repository http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143915#comment-27032 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a8ddf4f8-68d5-4d07-8d57-fb5d02924073] | Nov 03 20:05 | |
| schestowitz | Narrator: seems right | Nov 03 20:07 |
| schestowitz | we wrote some things to that effect before | Nov 03 20:07 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/06/24/freedom-of-speech/ | Nov 03 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Letโs Ban Bombings, Not Words (Corporations Taking Away Peopleโs Freedom of Speech So They Can Bomb โin Peaceโ) | Techrights | Nov 03 20:07 | |
| vZS1 | I think you should do a monthly reminder for people to not throw away old computers and laptops | Nov 03 20:10 |
| vZS1 | Even smartphones | Nov 03 20:11 |
| -e-[global notice] Hi all--we'll be taking services down for some brief maintenance in around 15 minutes' time. Expected downtime is less than 10 minutes, during which time ChanServ will be unavailable, so you may wish to op yourself in your channels beforehand. Sorry for any inconvenience! | Nov 03 20:11 | |
| schestowitz | [16:54] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: Donโt Exchange or Sell Your Old Laptops, Install Linux Lite Instead โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143969 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ed3d9ca9-bfeb-4a55-b366-1aae147ade9d] | Nov 03 20:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Donโt Exchange or Sell Your Old Laptops, Install Linux Lite Instead | Tux Machines | Nov 03 20:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 03 20:14 | |
| vZS1 | That's what I saw before making my comment | Nov 03 20:19 |
| vZS1 | We need more of that | Nov 03 20:19 |
| vZS1 | I was in the Raku IRC a while ago. We had a good discussion about the dangers of GitHub. | Nov 03 20:20 |
| schestowitz | I use an old laptop at the moment | Nov 03 20:20 |
| vZS1 | Looks like they're evaluating GitLab now | Nov 03 20:20 |
| schestowitz | it plays yewtube (no typo) videos in the the background | Nov 03 20:20 |
| schestowitz | GitLab isn't ideal either | Nov 03 20:21 |
| vZS1 | I have loads of old units | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | their dual licensing game | Nov 03 20:21 |
| vZS1 | I know | Nov 03 20:21 |
| vZS1 | But I tried my best | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | they can also be sold | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | heck, Microsoft can buy them too | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | more so if Trump is reelectd | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | he shills for MSFT | Nov 03 20:21 |
| schestowitz | "antitrust" is what he calls companies that don't trust him | Nov 03 20:21 |
| vZS1 | Lol | Nov 03 20:22 |
| schestowitz | he accused Google of anti-trump | Nov 03 20:22 |
| schestowitz | for indexing and ranking popular articles about him | Nov 03 20:22 |
| schestowitz | Hitler would have hates Google :-) | Nov 03 20:22 |
| schestowitz | "jew ENGINE!!!" -Hitler | Nov 03 20:22 |
| schestowitz | *hated | Nov 03 20:22 |
| vZS1 | Whatever the case, the move away from GitHub has to happen | Nov 03 20:23 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: Linux 5.10, LINSTOR and Bootlin โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143974 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bb2bcbc4-755d-4d59-b0f9-50adc674e46c] | Nov 03 20:23 | |
| schestowitz | When Trump met Microsoft (video) http://techrights.org/2020/08/28/racism-is-money-for-microsoft/ | Nov 03 20:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The โGeniusโ Microsoft Says Itโs Against Racism So It Therefore Must be True | Techrights | Nov 03 20:24 | |
| Narrator | Hitler likes IBM;-) | Nov 03 20:25 |
| schestowitz | liked. He died. | Nov 03 20:25 |
| schestowitz | IBM is still alive. | Nov 03 20:25 |
| Narrator | well mainframe IBM | Nov 03 20:25 |
| schestowitz | Now IBM luuurves black people | Nov 03 20:25 |
| schestowitz | they have a new campaign, it's called emb(RACE) and it features Jamaica-themed colours | Nov 03 20:25 |
| Narrator | closuds are not differ than mainframes | Nov 03 20:25 |
| schestowitz | the people it worked to sterilise a century ago | Nov 03 20:26 |
| Narrator | ... clouds ... | Nov 03 20:26 |
| schestowitz | IBM Cloudframe | Nov 03 20:26 |
| vZS1 | Clown computingโข๏ธ | Nov 03 20:26 |
| schestowitz | sounds like ClownFlare | Nov 03 20:26 |
| schestowitz | Clown Clowputingโข๏ธ | Nov 03 20:26 |
| vZS1 | Clouds basically run off mainframes | Nov 03 20:26 |
| Narrator | clown computing - mainframe pretending to be personal computers;-) | Nov 03 20:27 |
| Narrator | ... with 0% privacy | Nov 03 20:28 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/16/ibm-powered-purges/ | Nov 03 20:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Full Story (With References) of IBMโs Role in a Purge of Black People and Mixed-Race Couples | Techrights | Nov 03 20:29 | |
| Narrator | btw Hitler would like Clouds | Nov 03 20:29 |
| vZS1 | The problem is the lack of admin knowledge a typical dev today has. 20 years ago, programmers could run their own server. | Nov 03 20:29 |
| Narrator | do we need real programmers or admins anymore ? | Nov 03 20:29 |
| Narrator | we have no inovation economics | Nov 03 20:30 |
| vZS1 | That's the issue. I'm working on an education project atm. It's slow but I've had success so far. | Nov 03 20:30 |
| vZS1 | And I drop in to IRCs like this when I can to help out | Nov 03 20:30 |
| vZS1 | I've been with TR here because there really needs to be more support for sharp journalism | Nov 03 20:31 |
| Narrator | monopolies need preserve their ownership of technology | Nov 03 20:31 |
| Narrator | they don't need any new ideas | Nov 03 20:31 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: covid killed what was left of it | Nov 03 20:32 |
| schestowitz | groklaw is offline | Nov 03 20:32 |
| schestowitz | for over a week now it seems | Nov 03 20:32 |
| schestowitz | so it might not be coming back, ever | Nov 03 20:32 |
| vZS1 | Humanity has been through worse. We just need unity and to chip away at it gradually | Nov 03 20:32 |
| schestowitz | I don't know who in ibiblio to contact | Nov 03 20:32 |
| schestowitz | doing a post about it being down without even inquiring re cause would be pointless and counterproductive | Nov 03 20:32 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. You need direct contact and collaboration | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | groklaw became a static sitre | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | partly or only | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | not clear which | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | not it's just broken | Nov 03 20:33 |
| vZS1 | That's how I helped a certain project at the beginning of this year. Then I had to vanish for a few months. But the job was done. | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | 500 status on all reqs | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | someone should contact to ask what happened | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | this is why we did the deposition tapes | Nov 03 20:33 |
| schestowitz | we saw sites of the server starting to have issues | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | *sighs | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | *signs even | Nov 03 20:34 |
| vZS1 | I don't know anything about said site | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | groklaw.net? | Nov 03 20:34 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | did not hear about it? | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | wow | Nov 03 20:34 |
| schestowitz | you must be new in free sw then | Nov 03 20:34 |
| vZS1 | Never really paid much attention to things that weren't to do with code. | Nov 03 20:35 |
| vZS1 | What is groklaw about? | Nov 03 20:36 |
| vZS1 | Was even | Nov 03 20:36 |
| schestowitz | see wikipedia | Nov 03 20:38 |
| schestowitz | for good intro | Nov 03 20:38 |
| Narrator | excuse for software patents;-) | Nov 03 20:39 |
| vZS1 | Will give a look now | Nov 03 20:39 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Plasma System Monitor is a Modern System Stats App for KDE http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143973#comment-27034 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3b9dc48c-2bd3-4b9b-9577-bac6a60c8382] | Nov 03 20:42 | |
| vZS1 | On the Wikipedia it says PJ gave it up because of surveillance. That's a shame. | Nov 03 20:44 |
| vZS1 | Someone could have advised her on how to use end-to-end encryption. | Nov 03 20:45 |
| Narrator | :D | Nov 03 20:46 |
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| Narrator | vZS1: on internet ??? This is not possible | Nov 03 20:46 |
| Narrator | it's like to plan a revolutions at the police station | Nov 03 20:47 |
| vZS1 | People have been using OpenPGP over the internet for over a decade. And not only for emails. Even homebrew private chat servers. | Nov 03 20:47 |
| vZS1 | This is nothing new | Nov 03 20:48 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: CNCF Statement on the Passing of Dan Kohn http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143929#comment-27036 [https://pleroma.site/objects/44ed3eaa-1760-403f-93e2-4ee9ffecef8c] | Nov 03 20:48 | |
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| Narrator | well, as Snowden say "all clients are compromised" | Nov 03 20:50 |
| vZS1 | That's why you build your own | Nov 03 20:50 |
| Narrator | on what hardware? | Nov 03 20:50 |
| vZS1 | I'm not going down that hole again | Nov 03 20:51 |
| Narrator | you build own hardware ?;-) | Nov 03 20:51 |
| vZS1 | Even the NSA have leaks | Nov 03 20:52 |
| Narrator | do ... | Nov 03 20:52 |
| Narrator | exactly ... | Nov 03 20:52 |
| vZS1 | Does that mean people will throw away everything? That's just stupidity | Nov 03 20:52 |
| Narrator | well | Nov 03 20:53 |
| vZS1 | So I'm going to leave it there | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | [20:45] <vZS1> Someone could have advised her on how to use end-to-end encryption. | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | She did not want to use it with me | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I urged her several times | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | she sometimes used "Mac" | Nov 03 20:53 |
| Narrator | i have it 's good net to share cats' picture | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | I sent her thousands of mails | Nov 03 20:53 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: you sure have a lot of security "experts" around here. | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | iirc, her explanation was that encryption would attract attention | Nov 03 20:53 |
| schestowitz | A | Nov 03 20:53 |
| Narrator | it's safe for that but i am not sure | Nov 03 20:54 |
| schestowitz | A PECULIAR THING TO SAY WHEN YOU RUN A PUBLIC SITE :-) | Nov 03 20:54 |
| vZS1 | Another person to add to the ignore list | Nov 03 20:54 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: well, some don't agree it would be worth explaining to Windows users how to do encryption | Nov 03 20:54 |
| Narrator | security if form of tagging ... | Nov 03 20:55 |
| schestowitz | unless or until they leave windows | Nov 03 20:55 |
| vZS1 | > schestowitz: A PECULIAR THING TO SAY WHEN YOU RUN A PUBLIC SITE :-) | Nov 03 20:55 |
| vZS1 | Exactly what I thought | Nov 03 20:55 |
| Narrator | like "delete" informations in clouds ;-) | Nov 03 20:55 |
| schestowitz | mark as deleted | Nov 03 20:55 |
| schestowitz | nobody would notice NOW | Nov 03 20:55 |
| Narrator | schestowitz: exactly | Nov 03 20:55 |
| schestowitz | take that, Keith Alexander? | Nov 03 20:56 |
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| schestowitz | Keith? | Nov 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Keith? | Nov 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Oh | Nov 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | He's in Amazon now | Nov 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | THe Broad of Directors! | Nov 03 20:56 |
| schestowitz | Commandeering/commanding Alexa and other "fun toys" | Nov 03 20:56 |
| Chaekyung | So you go on a date. You go home with your date and you see a Alexa next to the bed | Nov 03 20:57 |
| Chaekyung | do you still bed the date or leave? | Nov 03 20:57 |
| Chaekyung | I'm assuming you get that far and it doesn't end early with "Want to Netflix and chill?" "I don't have Netflix" | Nov 03 20:58 |
| Narrator | 8. Siri | Nov 03 20:58 |
| Narrator | Yes, that Siri. Appleโs digital virtual assistant started life as a DARPA project in the early 2000s, known as CALO โ ostensibly an acronym for Cognitive Assistant that Learns and Organizes, but also a nod to the Latin word for a soldierโs servant. | Nov 03 20:58 |
| Narrator | https://www.itpro.co.uk/technology/34730/10-amazing-darpa-inventions | Nov 03 20:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itpro.co.uk | 10 amazing DARPA inventions: how they were made and what happened to them | IT PRO | Nov 03 20:58 | |
| Narrator | well, probably alexa start the same way | Nov 03 20:58 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: someone is bound to have archives of groklaw | Nov 03 20:59 |
| Narrator | buy your own wiretap and install it yourself | Nov 03 20:59 |
| vZS1 | I'll do some digging. I know some archiving outfits. | Nov 03 21:00 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: do you know when it went 500? | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | [20:57] <Chaekyung> do you still bed the date or leave? | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | You date alexa instead | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | in the toilets | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | down she goes | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | "oops" | Nov 03 21:03 |
| schestowitz | [21:03] <vZS1> schestowitz: do you know when it went 500? | Nov 03 21:04 |
| schestowitz | Google Cache last got a copy Oct 24th | Nov 03 21:04 |
| vZS1 | That's not long ago | Nov 03 21:04 |
| schestowitz | [09:47] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (็ฝไผ): #google has not been able to even reach #groklaw for over a week http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gxYlyqOgkcAJ:www.groklaw.net/+ does anyone know the #ibiblio maintainer? [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb43fdc3-14bf-4662-83f6-910a77e329d0] | Nov 03 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-webcache.googleusercontent.com | Groklaw - Digging for Truth | Nov 03 21:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Nov 03 21:04 | |
| schestowitz | the internet archive is partial for it | Nov 03 21:05 |
| schestowitz | one of us checked (fig) | Nov 03 21:05 |
| vZS1 | I would volunteer to help them but sadly I've only got time for one project | Nov 03 21:05 |
| vZS1 | And this is going to take me until Christmas to finish | Nov 03 21:06 |
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| schestowitz | we cannot mirror these is the site comes back online | Nov 03 21:12 |
| schestowitz | or without asking those who maintain it | Nov 03 21:13 |
| vZS1 | There are archivers out there that archive everything | Nov 03 21:13 |
| vZS1 | If interest to them at least | Nov 03 21:14 |
| vZS1 | Of* | Nov 03 21:14 |
| vZS1 | I wasn't going to do a mirror. If I had time to help it would be with operational support | Nov 03 21:14 |
| vZS1 | I dropped a message to one such archiving group. I'll let you know if I hear anything back. | Nov 03 21:15 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Google Rant and Fast Connection at Home โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143975 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7401a453-8816-4973-9b54-c0cc9c53d8c6] | Nov 03 21:16 | |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 03 21:17 |
| schestowitz | they might know that site | Nov 03 21:17 |
| vZS1 | Nw | Nov 03 21:19 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. That's what I'm hoping for | Nov 03 21:19 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi panel PCs upgrade to CM3+ and expand to a half dozen models โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143976 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4d3834b9-696d-4017-bfcc-d466f9af9d6a] | Nov 03 21:19 | |
| vZS1 | I've been making regular pulls of all the important crypto repos out there | Nov 03 21:22 |
| vZS1 | And distributing it to everyone willing to receive a compressed tarball | Nov 03 21:23 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA Jetson Nano 2GB Brings Machine Learning Power To A Raspberry Pi Price Point โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143977 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cfc8fd01-323f-4613-aa37-e9aa935545ca] | Nov 03 21:24 | |
| vZS1 | nettle, libgcrypt, and gnupg are the three big ones. | Nov 03 21:25 |
| vZS1 | I keep up with the dev of those three almost daily anyway so it's kind of regular routine | Nov 03 21:26 |
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| vZS1 | sequioapgp is another one. That's new | Nov 03 21:27 |
| schestowitz | https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/ | Nov 03 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-UEFA Champions League | UEFA.com | Nov 03 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | Liverpool 5-0 | Nov 03 21:28 |
| schestowitz | Man City across the road here only 1-0 still | Nov 03 21:29 |
| vZS1 | vs? | Nov 03 21:29 |
| vZS1 | Don't keep up with the footy much | Nov 03 21:29 |
| schestowitz | see page | Nov 03 21:29 |
| vZS1 | Atalanta | Nov 03 21:30 |
| schestowitz | brb hot brew | Nov 03 21:32 |
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| vZS1 | Good idea | Nov 03 21:33 |
| vZS1 | Brb too | Nov 03 21:33 |
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| Narrator | https://twitter.com/ThePSF/status/1148664871501869059 - complementary to simpy ;-) | Nov 03 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThePSF: SimuPy: A Python Framework for Modeling and Simulating Dynamical Systems by Benjamin Margolis -โฆ https://t.co/NyUOj6GPFP | Nov 03 21:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThePSF: SimuPy: A Python Framework for Modeling and Simulating Dynamical Systems by Benjamin Margolis -โฆ https://t.co/NyUOj6GPFP | Nov 03 21:43 | |
| Narrator | simpy is for discrete systems only | Nov 03 21:44 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Nov 03 21:46 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: HBO Max quietly restored service to Linux users โข ๐ฟ๐๐ ๐ธ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ โ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143978 [https://pleroma.site/objects/80ea8f42-b15a-41ab-a627-8a3e279efd77] | Nov 03 21:51 | |
| schestowitz | Man. City | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Manchester City FC | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | 3-0 | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | Olympiacos | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | yay, across the road from us | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | can't hear chants | Nov 03 21:53 |
| schestowitz | no people in the stadium | Nov 03 21:54 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: when will >some< states start releasing >some< result data? | Nov 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | or: are they any exit polls anywhere yet? Are they allowed to publish yet? | Nov 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | I am extremely curious | Nov 03 22:09 |
| schestowitz | but "the news" (so-called 'news' sites) are all noise, no raw data | Nov 03 22:10 |
| schestowitz | we can even remark on technical aspects of the election | Nov 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | to maybe shape public views on key aspects | Nov 03 22:11 |
| schestowitz | e.g. Iowa http://techrights.org/2016/02/01/microsoft-infiltrates-us-politics/ | Nov 03 22:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Infiltrates Politics and Can Engage in Election Fraud in Iowa Right Now | Techrights | Nov 03 22:12 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54794198 | Nov 03 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Twitter hides Trump mail voting tweet ahead of polling day - BBC News | Nov 03 22:18 | |
| schestowitz | photo of a rectum on a man showing a hole | Nov 03 22:18 |
| schestowitz | wtf | Nov 03 22:18 |
| schestowitz | this is bbc | Nov 03 22:18 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Where? | Nov 03 22:19 |
| XRevan86 | Do you mean Trump? | Nov 03 22:19 |
| schestowitz | look at the photo | Nov 03 22:20 |
| schestowitz | with some editing skills in gimp you could make a point | Nov 03 22:20 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I heard back from the archivists | Nov 03 22:40 |
| vZS1 | They told me to check archive.org as it has stuff on it | Nov 03 22:41 |
| schestowitz | it is not complete, I heard... | Nov 03 22:43 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: https://web.archive.org/web/collections/20200701000000*/groklaw.net | Nov 03 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Wayback Machine | Nov 03 22:44 | |
| vZS1 | Better than nothing | Nov 03 22:44 |
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| vZS1 | I think that's what the ibiblio people are using anyway | Nov 03 22:48 |
| vZS1 | I used to know an individual that had archives better than a lot of three-letter agencies but said individual isn't in that group anymore. :( | Nov 03 22:49 |
| vZS1 | I'll let you know if I get any more info from that archivist group | Nov 03 22:49 |
| vZS1 | I helped them out with a really big project so they're very accommodating to my requests | Nov 03 22:50 |
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| schestowitz | the domain is registered for another 2 years | Nov 03 22:51 |
| schestowitz | if this is "what the ibiblio people are using anyway" then why has it been down for so long? | Nov 03 22:51 |
| vZS1 | Ask them that question, not me | Nov 03 22:52 |
| vZS1 | I just checked and archive.org has as API. So if they had someone who knows what they're doing, the only issue should be the API usage limits. | Nov 03 22:52 |
| schestowitz | I don't know how to contact them | Nov 03 22:52 |
| schestowitz | or who to contact | Nov 03 22:52 |
| schestowitz | this is how this whole topic started | Nov 03 22:53 |
| vZS1 | an* | Nov 03 22:53 |
| schestowitz | worth urging them to fix it | Nov 03 22:53 |
| schestowitz | if they know who the archivist is | Nov 03 22:53 |
| schestowitz | TR links to tons of Groklaw URLs | Nov 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | The lack of a working address can weaken impact | Nov 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | lots of original docs | Nov 03 22:54 |
| schestowitz | and leaks etc. | Nov 03 22:54 |
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| Narrator | well, looks like biden going to win ... time to get back to afgan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuQkYSriaKc ;-) | Nov 03 22:55 |
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| vZS1 | I'll see what I can organise | Nov 03 22:55 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft must be sniffing coke at the news of Groklaw being down | Nov 03 22:55 |
| schestowitz | they can carry on with their lying campaign, "loves Linix" | Nov 03 22:55 |
| schestowitz | *Linux | Nov 03 22:55 |
| vZS1 | Pragmatic solution would be to algorithmically fix the broken links by linking to the archive.org URLs | Nov 03 22:57 |
| vZS1 | Wordpress has an API | Nov 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | or fix the original site | Nov 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | much better | Nov 03 22:57 |
| vZS1 | That's a much bigger project | Nov 03 22:57 |
| schestowitz | it worked until recently | Nov 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | something broke | Nov 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | fixing it might be very easy like DC check | Nov 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | I meant DB | Nov 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | it uses geeklog and has static front end now | Nov 03 22:58 |
| vZS1 | I got 503 error | Nov 03 22:58 |
| schestowitz | it might be just a DB service down, up | Nov 03 22:59 |
| schestowitz | maybe a reboot can sort it out, even though it's not needed | Nov 03 22:59 |
| vZS1 | Problem is we have no established contact | Nov 03 23:00 |
| vZS1 | To the admin | Nov 03 23:00 |
| vZS1 | And this stinks of foul play | Nov 03 23:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe ask around | Nov 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | they can check | Nov 03 23:03 |
| schestowitz | they have connections to such staff | Nov 03 23:03 |
| vZS1 | I'll see what I can do | Nov 03 23:04 |
| schestowitz | PJ would have appreciated that | Nov 03 23:04 |
| schestowitz | afaik she's still alive, just very old | Nov 03 23:04 |
| vZS1 | The archive pages all have archive.org links btw | Nov 03 23:05 |
| vZS1 | That means you'd be able to just match hrefs | Nov 03 23:05 |
| schestowitz | her main wish was that her work would remain online | Nov 03 23:05 |
| schestowitz | she did a post about it before the first time she left | Nov 03 23:05 |
| schestowitz | IA isn't helping much | Nov 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | it's hard to find corresponding pages | Nov 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | most people would never bother | Nov 03 23:06 |
| schestowitz | Internet rot is prospering during covid19 | Nov 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | groklaw has more important articles than ours | Nov 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | with documents only groklaw published | Nov 03 23:07 |
| schestowitz | and got from insiders | Nov 03 23:07 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I've got people looking into it. | Nov 03 23:15 |
| vZS1 | I'll let you know how things progress. | Nov 03 23:15 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Nov 03 23:19 |
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| schestowitz | I will mention this in a post in a few minutes | Nov 03 23:29 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: you may not understand how important that is | Nov 03 23:30 |
| schestowitz | they operated from 2003-2013 | Nov 03 23:30 |
| schestowitz | and were THE "go to" place for such matters | Nov 03 23:30 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. I don't really know the gravity of the situation. This is not my home turf | Nov 03 23:39 |
| schestowitz | can you check http://techrights.org/2020/11/03/groklaw-offline/ | Nov 03 23:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Groklaw Down for ~10 Days Now, Techrights Investigates Ways to Bring This Essential Site Back Online | Techrights | Nov 03 23:40 | |
| schestowitz | I have not proofread it yet | Nov 03 23:40 |
| vZS1 | Reading now | Nov 03 23:40 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/search?q=groklaw&sa=Google+%E2%80%BA&sitesearch=techrights.org&client=pub-2479740519054892&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23999999%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A999999%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A999999%3BALC%3A666666%3BLC%3A666666%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A333333%3BGIMP%3A333333%3BLH%3A50%3BLW%3A50%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Ftechrights.org%2Ftechrights-search.png%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F% | Nov 03 23:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-groklaw site:techrights.org - Google Search | Nov 03 23:41 | |
| schestowitz | 2Fschestowitz.com%3BFORID%3A1%3B&hl=en | Nov 03 23:41 |
| schestowitz | this might explain some background | Nov 03 23:41 |
| vZS1 | You should post the archive.org link I sent | Nov 03 23:41 |
| vZS1 | At least people can read a lot of it from there | Nov 03 23:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe once we know what happened | Nov 03 23:42 |
| schestowitz | maybe it'll be back by tomorr | Nov 03 23:42 |
| schestowitz | *tomorrow | Nov 03 23:42 |
| vZS1 | No idea | Nov 03 23:42 |
| vZS1 | Post looks fine btw. I'd just include an archive.org link. I'm reading a lot of the stuff on there now. Pretty damning | Nov 03 23:43 |
| vZS1 | I think you can just use the archive.org links when you want to reference groklaw in a new article. At least that way people can see the original content | Nov 03 23:44 |
| schestowitz | I will add that | Nov 03 23:45 |
| vZS1 | I think the archive.org links are static | Nov 03 23:45 |
| schestowitz | they are | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | groklaw isn't configure to redirect | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | with a UK gov site we once worked on redirections | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | old links | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | to the National Archives | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | and those worked | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | it would use the APIs to check for corresponding addresses | Nov 03 23:49 |
| schestowitz | before giving up and spewing error pages | Nov 03 23:50 |
| schestowitz | I actually did a lot of the work on that | Nov 03 23:50 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: since you've mentioned reuse ^^^ | Nov 03 23:54 |
| vZS1 | That's a nice project | Nov 03 23:55 |
| vZS1 | I'm going to head to bed now. Don't know if I'll be on tomorrow but I'll drop by if I can. Tc | Nov 03 23:59 |
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