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| DaemonFC[m] | That's a beating from the pimp. (trick question) | Aug 04 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The one in Nevada where it's legal (in some areas) make you pay up front. | Aug 04 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like $6,000 though. Who is going to pay a hooker $6,000? | Aug 04 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Market rate is like maybe $300-600 per half hour depending on the hooker and what area you're in. Less if you have no standards, obviously. | Aug 04 00:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 04 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Must be that Nevada Libertarianism. | Aug 04 00:02 |
| MinceR | what if i shoot the pimp in the head before he could beat me? | Aug 04 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state doesn't let the hooker and the business decide what her services are worth. | Aug 04 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then it's Grand Theft Auto and you have 3 wanted stars. | Aug 04 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a few things in the game where you go to 5 immediately. Like flying over a military base. | Aug 04 00:04 |
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| MinceR | no, it could be Postal2 | Aug 04 00:05 |
| MinceR | and i could have no wanted level at all | Aug 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can clear wanted levels by hiding successfully and letting the cooldown period go to work, or getting your car repainted. | Aug 04 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't know why there's no more Postal games. | Aug 04 00:06 |
| MinceR | there are | Aug 04 00:06 |
| MinceR | there's Postal2: Paradise Lost and Postal4: No Regerts is in development | Aug 04 00:07 |
| MinceR | also Postal Redux | Aug 04 00:07 |
| MinceR | and Hatred is sort of related :> | Aug 04 00:08 |
| MinceR | and there's PostalIII but it's said to be crap and unofficial | Aug 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, nice. | Aug 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll have to play Postal 2 again. | Aug 04 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was glued to my chair through that. | Aug 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What's with the negative reviews? | Aug 04 00:09 |
| MinceR | negative reviews of Postal2? offended people. | Aug 04 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's possible to play through without killing anyone, apparently. | Aug 04 00:10 |
| MinceR | base game, yes. AW[P], no. :> | Aug 04 00:11 |
| XRevan86 | What are AW[P]? | Aug 04 00:12 |
| MinceR | do outragists still generate drama about every single game where you need to kill someone to win? | Aug 04 00:12 |
| MinceR | Apocalypse Weekend; A Week in Paradise | Aug 04 00:12 |
| MinceR | AWP is a mod that merges the base game (Monday-Friday) with AW (Saturday-Sunday) and adds some stuff, and became an official part of the game | Aug 04 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Like chess? | Aug 04 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In 2004, the Office of Film and Literature Classification banned Postal 2 in New Zealand, citing high levels of violent content and animal violence. Distribution or purchase for personal use is a criminal offense, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of $50,000." | Aug 04 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | WTF | Aug 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i guess, yes | Aug 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | practically all violence i'm aware of is "animal violence" | Aug 04 00:13 |
| MinceR | humans are animals | Aug 04 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | or Battleship (in the hundreds) | Aug 04 00:14 |
| MinceR | yeah | Aug 04 00:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.gamespot.com/articles/postal-court-case-dismissed/1100-6030580/ | Aug 04 00:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Postal court case dismissed - GameSpot | Aug 04 00:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US Postal Service sued them for calling the game Postal. | Aug 04 00:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, fuck the USPS | Aug 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's okay. They have bigger problems now. Trump doesn't like them. | Aug 04 00:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I'd mail them a letter telling them to fuck themselves, but that would be a crime. | Aug 04 00:17 |
| MinceR | it would be? | Aug 04 00:17 |
| MinceR | whatever happened to the first amendment? | Aug 04 00:18 |
| MinceR | what happened to the "land of the free"? | Aug 04 00:18 |
| cybrNaut | fuck FedEx (NRA-supporting ALEC member). Fuck UPS (ALEC member). Fuck USPS (blocks Tor). Who's left? | Aug 04 00:18 |
| MinceR | carring packages yourself :> | Aug 04 00:18 |
| cybrNaut | Airborne Express has closed down in the US, aFAIK | Aug 04 00:18 |
| MinceR | i don't know, all carrier services tend to suck somewhat here | Aug 04 00:18 |
| MinceR | and the state post sucks the most | Aug 04 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "whatever happened to the first a"> Most states make it Disorderly Conduct to flip someone off or tell them to fuck themselves, if it "alarms them" and was "unreasonable". | Aug 04 00:19 |
| MinceR | ah, so they just wipe their asses with the constitution over there, too | Aug 04 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Using the mail to do that makes it a state and federal offense. | Aug 04 00:19 |
| cybrNaut | USPS does not support republican politicians. FedEx and UPS does (ALEC membership), so FedEx and UPS are rock-bottom scum compared to USPS | Aug 04 00:19 |
| MinceR | i meant in hungary | Aug 04 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obscenity carried out using the mail (federal) and Disorderly Conduct (most states). | Aug 04 00:20 |
| MinceR | every carrier service will tell you they'll tell you in advance when they're going to deliver | Aug 04 00:20 |
| MinceR | and then they either won't communicate with you at all, just randomly turn up | Aug 04 00:20 |
| MinceR | or send you a message maybe 2h in advance | Aug 04 00:20 |
| MinceR | with the state post office, it's pretty much just "we'll leave you a few slips of papers and have you wait a few days, then you can come to the post office to pick up your stuff" | Aug 04 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The law makes it generally illegal to use another courier to send letters. | Aug 04 00:21 |
| cybrNaut | any FedEx/UPS competitor is worth supporting, particularly when the orange man is trying to sabotage USPS -- starving it to block votes | Aug 04 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you have to use USPS and their shitty service and hope for the best. | Aug 04 00:21 |
| MinceR | and then sometimes their system will just ignore the number you picked and they'll never call you | Aug 04 00:21 |
| MinceR | 04 012137 < DaemonFC[m]> The law makes it generally illegal to use another courier to send letters. | Aug 04 00:22 |
| MinceR | again, what the fuck? | Aug 04 00:22 |
| cybrNaut | anyone can carry letters, but only USPS can use the official mailboxes | Aug 04 00:22 |
| MinceR | what happened to free enterprise and the market economy? | Aug 04 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FedEx was charged with delivering letters. | Aug 04 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They weren't even putting them in the mailboxes. | Aug 04 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "what happened to free enterprise"> LOL | Aug 04 00:22 |
| MinceR | does the USPS buy mailboxes to put in people's homes or something? | Aug 04 00:23 |
| cybrNaut | that's legal of course.. you can send a letter via FedEx (if you don't mind supporting republicans) | Aug 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, you have to buy the mail box and then nobody can use it but the post office. | Aug 04 00:23 |
| cybrNaut | USPS has the key to my mailbox.. how would FedEx get into my box without a key? | Aug 04 00:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It also has to be constructed according to their regulations. | Aug 04 00:23 |
| MinceR | so much for the alleged protection of property | Aug 04 00:23 |
| MinceR | what if you get a differently constructed mailbox and put a sticker saying "NOT FOR USPS" on it? | Aug 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You mean like for newspapers? | Aug 04 00:24 |
| MinceR | then again, property rights also got a stab in the back when the establishment decided it's A-OK to let microshit decide what OS you're allowed to run on your own PC | Aug 04 00:24 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: or for letters delivered by another service | Aug 04 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why they make newspaper boxes. It's illegal to put your newspaper in the mailbox. | Aug 04 00:24 |
| MinceR | or even letters delivered by unaffiliated personnel | Aug 04 00:25 |
| cybrNaut | exactly.. newspaper boxes are not usps boxes | Aug 04 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When Trump collapses the post office, it's going to hurt rural people much worse. | Aug 04 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're the ones that need it more. | Aug 04 00:25 |
| MinceR | and people are going to have a lot of mailboxes that will be illegal to put anything in, ever again | Aug 04 00:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody else even has to serve them, and wouldn't. The USPS has many routes that are not profitable. | Aug 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's rural people freeloading. | Aug 04 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because there has to be a post office in a county with 1,000 people in it. | Aug 04 00:26 |
| cybrNaut | Alaskans would be fucked.. that whole state is mostly rural | Aug 04 00:26 |
| MinceR | they're already fucked, they live in uhmerica | Aug 04 00:27 |
| cybrNaut | they're fucked b/c they have Sara Palin | Aug 04 00:27 |
| cybrNaut | but at least they get out of state taxes | Aug 04 00:27 |
| cybrNaut | apart from giving an NRA discount, FedEx ships shark fins, hunting trophies, and slave dolphins. They have no ethical constraints whatsoever. | Aug 04 00:31 |
| cybrNaut | i'm actually grateful that FedEx and UPS don't get access to official USPS boxes - i'd rather not see them profitting | Aug 04 00:33 |
| cybrNaut | if that imposes infrastructure costs on them, good. fuck them. That's less money to feed ALEC with | Aug 04 00:34 |
| MinceR | https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2020/07/15/spoilers | Aug 04 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.penny-arcade.com | Penny Arcade - Comic - The Sixth Sense 2: 7th Sense | Aug 04 00:34 | |
| MinceR | cybrNaut: don't they have any other competitors? | Aug 04 00:34 |
| cybrNaut | Amazon (who I also boycott) | Aug 04 00:35 |
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| cybrNaut | i'm not sure what happens if Airbore Express is used in Europe to ship something to the US | Aug 04 00:35 |
| MinceR | sad | Aug 04 00:36 |
| cybrNaut | USPS is the lesser of evils for shipping something from inside the US | Aug 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Amazon is really really ghetto. | Aug 04 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'll chuck your packages at the wrong house. | Aug 04 00:37 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpufzJNrZ2Y | Aug 04 00:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Park-Eric Cartman-In The Ghetto - YouTube | Aug 04 00:37 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They'll leave them outside somewhere at the motel/apartment building you're in and let them get stolen. | Aug 04 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have this "I don't get paid enough to care." attitude. | Aug 04 00:37 |
| cybrNaut | Amazon also has a contract with FedEx, so if a package is going where Amazon doesn't, there's a hand-off to FedEx. They're both the top evil | Aug 04 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, UPS is. | Aug 04 00:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | UPS tossed my husband's medication somewhere. | Aug 04 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's expensive and the only reason he got another one was because CVS sent it again and didn't run it through insurance. | Aug 04 00:38 |
| cybrNaut | FedEx is worse, b/c fedex supports NRA in addition to ALEC, and FedEx ships shark fins, hunting trophies, and slave dolphins (UPS does not) | Aug 04 00:38 |
| cybrNaut | well, i'm talking in terms of ethics | Aug 04 00:38 |
| cybrNaut | i don't generally give a shit about package handling b/c i wouldn't ship something uninsured | Aug 04 00:39 |
| MinceR | there should be an alternative to the NRA which supports gun rights instead of taking senseless shots at video games and movies | Aug 04 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The sideways attacks on games and movies change the narrative from people shooting each other. | Aug 04 00:40 |
| cybrNaut | Gun rights don't need support b/c prohibition will never happen. | Aug 04 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's all the NRA and Trump want to do. They don't want to stop gun violence. Just blame something unrelated. | Aug 04 00:40 |
| cybrNaut | the NRA *used* to be a gun safety org. Now they're quite the opposite, as they fight sensible gun controls | Aug 04 00:41 |
| MinceR | they should take shots at the people, then | Aug 04 00:42 |
| cybrNaut | NRA would fight to give everyone hand grenades and grenade launchers, if it were up for debate | Aug 04 00:42 |
| MinceR | the guns don't point themselves at people and don't pull the trigger | Aug 04 00:42 |
| MinceR | and grenade launchers would still be insufficient for the purpose of fighting a government turned against its people | Aug 04 00:42 |
| cybrNaut | NRA would be arming children, if they thought they could get away with it | Aug 04 00:43 |
| cybrNaut | NRA is no longer an advocate for gun safety | Aug 04 00:43 |
| cybrNaut | they're just a republican financer | Aug 04 00:43 |
| cybrNaut | the NRA was critical to channeling Russian money into Trump's war chest | Aug 04 00:44 |
| MinceR | "republican" | Aug 04 00:44 |
| MinceR | they want to turn uhmerica into russia, and i can assure you, russia is no republic | Aug 04 00:45 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Aug 04 00:45 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: dehomag | Aug 04 00:45 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: who ? | Aug 04 00:47 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehomag | Aug 04 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Dehomag - Wikipedia | Aug 04 00:47 | |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Attachmate | Aug 04 00:49 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: CPTN Holdings | Aug 04 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Mcrosoft want to buy Tick Tock | Aug 04 00:50 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: heard of tick tock ? | Aug 04 00:50 |
| MinceR | yes, i've heard of TikTok | Aug 04 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | used it ? | Aug 04 00:51 |
| MinceR | no | Aug 04 00:51 |
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| MinceR | watched videos reshared from it, though | Aug 04 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: why not :D ? | Aug 04 00:51 |
| MinceR | because i don't think i have a use for it | Aug 04 00:51 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Ubuntu 20.04 is amazing with the new GNOME 3 menu changes for power off and restart and things LOL uhmmm not quite, but at least can see them | Aug 04 00:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: they do stuff like that, wehn got nothing else really that's noticeable it seems | Aug 04 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: I kept the 19.10 for longer under eol using that, but upgraded other day to this | Aug 04 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: have set up enlightenment recently as well, which was fun | Aug 04 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | shame it doenst just show the wifi networks though | Aug 04 00:52 |
| sebsebseb | seems to me that upgrading Linux distro's isn't really that worht it anymore | Aug 04 00:53 |
| MinceR | i don't know why you torture yourself with that stuff | Aug 04 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | what do I get that's new, and that I actually see as well ? | Aug 04 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | which stuff ? | Aug 04 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu ????????????? | Aug 04 00:53 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 00:53 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu works but uhmm | Aug 04 00:54 |
| MinceR | i wouldn't call it working | Aug 04 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | well it can go wrong too as well, like when I was changing dm's and such | Aug 04 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | also the Unity isn;t' how it should be the Unith 7 that had put into 19.10 still like that in 20.04 | Aug 04 00:54 |
| MinceR | on a brand new ubuntu install, having to switch to a different virtual console so i can tell the emergency prompt that yes, i do in fact want to boot | Aug 04 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah a bit like that | Aug 04 00:54 |
| MinceR | or having it wait forever for an NFS server i already stopped on shutdown | Aug 04 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | I do an upgrade | Aug 04 00:54 |
| MinceR | or just freezing during the install process | Aug 04 00:54 |
| sebsebseb | get a ugly sddm theme | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | kde | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | install and reove gdm3 and put lxdm on or tried to that dind't work | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | then things get messed up | Aug 04 00:55 |
| MinceR | i know microshit and crApple lowered most people's standards, but not mine | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | I get that prompt where you log in with your user name and password | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | then I do whatever and I get bluettooth errors and lose my net connection even | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | I fix things in the root prompt in the recovery console | Aug 04 00:55 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yeah you get system error detected on ubuntu after doing certain things | Aug 04 00:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: a little pop up message I had that when doing this stuff with dm's | Aug 04 00:58 |
| MinceR | (cat) (no audio) https://i.imgur.com/XtjiTVS.mp4 | Aug 04 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | so I don't actsaully think it's that stable or whatever really ! altough it mostly does work, but you take a chance installing loads of de's and wm's that may not work as smoothely together anymore, and changing the plymouth or dm might mess things up too | Aug 04 00:58 |
| sebsebseb | I will try do a sddm theem change later by removing the default and installing another or well maybe I don't need to do that actsually just install another, but I feel like it can go wrong, and so back to recovery console for me or soeting | Aug 04 00:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: so yeah Ubuntu recovery mode | Aug 04 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: and stability etc, tell me more | Aug 04 01:14 |
| sebsebseb | what you meant | Aug 04 01:14 |
| MinceR | ubuntu used to be stable | Aug 04 01:15 |
| MinceR | long ago | Aug 04 01:15 |
| MinceR | then they adopted kde4, forced mono, started messing with systray support, started forcing unity, started experimenting with upstart and systemd | Aug 04 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ok ten reasons why you think Ubuntu is not stable anymore ! | Aug 04 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: not inclduign things such as mono, unity, or kde 4, or pulse audio back in 2008 | Aug 04 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | or system d | Aug 04 01:16 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but yeah it going wrong with system error detected message that's what I mean, or it going wrong and then got to log into the recovery mode shell for some reason, that kind of thing | Aug 04 01:17 |
| MinceR | 1. compositor crashing during install process | Aug 04 01:17 |
| MinceR | 2. installer ui freezing during install process | Aug 04 01:17 |
| MinceR | 3. booting into a hidden emergency prompt on first install | Aug 04 01:17 |
| MinceR | 4. waiting forever for an NFS server that is already gone on shutdown | Aug 04 01:18 |
| MinceR | 5. unsolicited, pointless patches to cripple applications | Aug 04 01:18 |
| MinceR | 6. gnome | Aug 04 01:18 |
| MinceR | 7. upstart | Aug 04 01:19 |
| MinceR | 8. canonical's refusal to do any actual work beyond maintaining themes and pointless patches | Aug 04 01:19 |
| MinceR | 9. breaking the system on dist-upgrade | Aug 04 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft's SEC Report: LinkedIn has been absolutely trashed by the pandemic and nobody needs it because they aren't hiring anymore. (Doesn't mention that they also fired roughly 1,000 people from LinkedIn.) Also, LinkedIn had a great quarter and comp revenue is up 10%. | Aug 04 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's something very wrong with what's being stated vs. what's actually happening. | Aug 04 01:21 |
| MinceR | 10. polkit | Aug 04 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They fired 8%+ of that entire division just weeks ago. | Aug 04 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You probably don't do that if it's showing better growth than Windows, where they haven't publicly admitted to any layoffs, but heh. | Aug 04 01:22 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: polkit and uhmm yeah, lol I forgot about things like that, but that would be exemptions to the 10 things I think :D | Aug 04 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like I said before, with OEM rebates to keep Chromebooks at bay, it's $50 revenue and then you hand $40-50 right back to the OEM. So they're counting revenue that goes right back out to the guy who handed it to them. Then in the SEC report, they said Pro skus of Windows (where the money usually does come from is down 4%. | Aug 04 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So blame that damned virus. | Aug 04 01:23 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: the recovery console can be useful and can be better than other distros with something similar, but it's annoying having to go in tehre in the first place ! | Aug 04 01:23 |
| MinceR | then come up with your 10 things, if you think forcing cancerd on the user is not enough reason to not consider an alleged OS to be stable :> | Aug 04 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They actually did blame the virus for Windows pro license revenue being down 4%. | Aug 04 01:24 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: i have no doubt of that | Aug 04 01:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though they keep saying you need MOAR client software to work from home. | Aug 04 01:24 |
| MinceR | but the system should be robust enough that it won't need to use the recovery console right on the first boot after install | Aug 04 01:24 |
| MinceR | and it shouldn't hide it on an inactive VC while just having the fancy boot animation indicate nothing | Aug 04 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: it doesn't invoate anymore! they do stupid things like putting back in the Ubuntu Hardy Heron default wall papper from 2008 | Aug 04 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | into 20.04 | Aug 04 01:24 |
| sebsebseb | since apparnatly it was so popular | Aug 04 01:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 01:24 |
| MinceR | canonical can't afford to have new wallpapers made | Aug 04 01:25 |
| MinceR | that's a new one | Aug 04 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't add up. Businesses are casting Windows Pro/Enterprise out and Microsoft is bleeding revenue. On the consumer side, Windows 10 is carpet bombed for free to slow down Google and maybe sell people some Microsoft "cloud" stuff. | Aug 04 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | uhmm I much prefered the Ubuntu 8.10 wall papper that came next, that was my faourite default wall paper :) | Aug 04 01:25 |
| MinceR | what happened, microsuck wanted too much money for a UEFI signature? | Aug 04 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: well they got the new mascot wall papers too | Aug 04 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: but for colours they are so similarn ad aren't that great | Aug 04 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | the purpel aburgine | Aug 04 01:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That entire division is falling apart. There's no real growth. There's negative growth. If it seems like they're not putting much effort into Windows, it's because it's not a growth product. | Aug 04 01:25 |
| sebsebseb | with a bit of yellow/organe possibly which is the community | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | well, at least that's an improvement over the brown | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | but the brown was easy to configure away | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | the brokenness takes a bit more | Aug 04 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: oh the brown, I know why you liked the brown :) | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | (namely, installing something like void in its place) | Aug 04 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also admit that their search ad revenue is down almost 20%. | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | i hate brown | Aug 04 01:26 |
| MinceR | but it was easy to avoid | Aug 04 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | you and DaemonFC[m] love the brown ! | Aug 04 01:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They blame the virus, even though Google's SEC report says their ad revenue is up. | Aug 04 01:26 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: they even called it human hmm I wonder why :D | Aug 04 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook and Google say ad revenue is up and Microsoft says down 20% and COVID-19. | Aug 04 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Down 20% and this is with the New Edge that has been demanding attention and stealing defaults, and spewing misinformation about other browsers, and putting notifications in news articles that you need to get Edge. | Aug 04 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It defaults to Bing. So if Edge defaults to Bing and their 20% advertising revenue decline is true, that should be seen as a proxy for a lot of users moving away from not only Edge, but Windows itself. | Aug 04 01:29 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: maybe they believed that people who knew something about IT weren't human | Aug 04 01:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it was a failure | Aug 04 01:29 |
| schestowitz | and they bribe publishers for it | Aug 04 01:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: now Microsoft is basically liaising with Nazis. Because they've been faking their results and are looking to be bailed out by dictators. | Aug 04 01:30 |
| MinceR | speaking of brown, it's time for me to release something that's better designed than systemd, windows or macOS... | Aug 04 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: now Microsoft is basic"> This is like that episode of Breaking Bad where Ted Beneke admits to Skyler that he's been faking the books for years and doesn't know what to do, so she stuffs the company accounts with Walt's meth lab money. | Aug 04 01:31 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: yes you do your best work in the bathroom! | Aug 04 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft will never have to open the books as long as investors are happy with the SEC reports, and they'll be happy with the SEC reports as long as the money is in the accounts, and they'll be happy with the money being in the accounts even if it's not why Microsoft says the money is in the accounts. (And it won't be, because it'll be JEDI and TikTok and whatever they think Trump can slip them from the taxpayers or | Aug 04 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | steal from other companies and hand to them under threat of destroying them if they don't sell their product.) | Aug 04 01:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is, of course, the definition of fascism. Where a guy like Trump can come threaten to destroy your business in 45 days unless you sell it cheaply to his criminal pals over at Microsoft. | Aug 04 01:34 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Aug 04 01:35 |
| schestowitz | criminals help other criminals | Aug 04 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ByteDance should file a lawsuit against Trump and ask for an emergency injunction stopping him from shutting them down while it's litigated. | Aug 04 01:38 |
| schestowitz | I was going to say more about it in relation to JEDI | Aug 04 01:38 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I made a misatke | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | I assigned this to an intern | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | and she never did anything | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | waste of time really | Aug 04 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They seem to be profitable enough that they could file for an emergency injunction against him. | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes, welcome to nazism basically, but a lawsuit against criminals and nazis with a massive military might not do | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | not they try to lower the price | Aug 04 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is clearly an unlawful taking that has nothing to do with national security. | Aug 04 01:39 |
| schestowitz | by blackmailing them, trash-talking them, giving ultimatums | Aug 04 01:40 |
| schestowitz | yes, it's also hypocritical, privacy-wie | Aug 04 01:40 |
| schestowitz | misuse of public office to conspire with Microsoft | Aug 04 01:40 |
| schestowitz | the US is a rogue state | Aug 04 01:40 |
| schestowitz | a failed state, and this is just more evidence of that | Aug 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | This is what happens when a nation does in fact make something competitive with US tech | Aug 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | as Skype did | Aug 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | it's European, Swedish IIRC | Aug 04 01:41 |
| schestowitz | then they cheat and lie | Aug 04 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Skype used a peer to peer system and encryption and the US government nearly had a stroke because it wasn't all on some centralized server where they could archive it forever and pull it up whenever they wanted it. | Aug 04 01:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So right after Microsoft bought it, they replaced the peer structure with servers (running Linux, actually, not Windows Server) that took the place of the supernodes. | Aug 04 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: do you want to work on an in-depth article about this? | Aug 04 01:59 |
| schestowitz | mind you, we published many posts about why Microsoft bought Skype | Aug 04 01:59 |
| schestowitz | and linked it to the NSA | Aug 04 01:59 |
| schestowitz | before the NSA leaks of Snowden | Aug 04 01:59 |
| schestowitz | which showed Skype entering PRISM shortly afterwards, in the timeline | Aug 04 01:59 |
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| MinceR | 04 023152 < sebsebseb> MinceR: yes you do your best work in the bathroom! | Aug 04 02:03 |
| MinceR | nope | Aug 04 02:03 |
| MinceR | i do better work than the best work of people like poettering and cutler, on the toilet | Aug 04 02:03 |
| MinceR | that's not my best work, merely better than their best | Aug 04 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The NSA leaks from Snowden are 7 years old now, but from what they said at the time, I doubt things have gotten better. | Aug 04 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember Obama commenting on it that Americans would just have to have a "balance" of freedom and safety. | Aug 04 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even though the PRISM program doesn't do anything to increase safety for Americans. | Aug 04 02:09 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nor is the government worried about that. | Aug 04 02:09 |
| MinceR | is that like "life-work balance"? | Aug 04 02:09 |
| MinceR | can i have some "safety from states" in that "safety"? | Aug 04 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh sure, you know. The get 2 other jobs to work alongside McDonalds and don't spend anything on heat, and health insurance is twenty bucks "budget". | Aug 04 02:10 |
| MinceR | or "safety from oppression"? | Aug 04 02:10 |
| MinceR | or maybe he meant it like "yeah, we can take some of your freedom away, but we've got to 'balance' it out with also taking some of your safety away." | Aug 04 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 04 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sure you're losing freedom, and the government is robbing you blind, but at least you're not safe. | Aug 04 02:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This has been taken to an extreme under "president" Trump. | Aug 04 02:12 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: you know I got another 2700 from seattle pd | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | 2700 pages | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | but... it's mostly listing of hashes and filenames | Aug 04 02:15 |
| schestowitz | from ncmec | Aug 04 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How many times did they repeat the same page this time? | Aug 04 02:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh god. | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | maybe only for repeat files | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | multiple copies | Aug 04 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | File hash values for CP? They spammed you with file hashed for CP!?!? | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | but publishing this would be unwise | Aug 04 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | OMG | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | it would reveal what hashes they scam for and some pervy filenames | Aug 04 02:16 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if there's more to the police report that they don't reveal | Aug 04 02:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I doubt they would have sent it to you if they cared, but yeah. | Aug 04 02:17 |
| schestowitz | or whether what I sent you is all they offered the courtroom and that was it | Aug 04 02:17 |
| MinceR | is having hashes of CP legally punishable? | Aug 04 02:17 |
| MinceR | (yet) | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | doubt it | Aug 04 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, it wouldn't be. | Aug 04 02:18 |
| MinceR | curious | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | and, if so, I can blame the police | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | and hold THEM accountable | Aug 04 02:18 |
| MinceR | i guess the suits haven't figured out what hashes are yet | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | we never asked for those | Aug 04 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 04 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's two jokes in a row, Roy. | Aug 04 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Blame the police -and- hold them accountable. falls over laughing | Aug 04 02:18 |
| MinceR | yeah, Roy and what army? | Aug 04 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I CAN'T BREATHE! | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | but... this is not stuff you want online anyway | Aug 04 02:18 |
| schestowitz | it can help people know how or what to avoid/evade | Aug 04 02:19 |
| schestowitz | and also the filenames are a tad disturbing | Aug 04 02:19 |
| MinceR | if people aren't willing to abolish the state, how do they expect to hold their police accountable? | Aug 04 02:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I could publicly say, "WTH is the police sending me a list of CP hashes that I never even asked for?" | Aug 04 02:20 |
| schestowitz | but that's like announcing, hey, cops are sending me CP hashes | Aug 04 02:20 |
| schestowitz | anyway, the earlier installments are still useful and can be published at some stage | Aug 04 02:20 |
| schestowitz | but exposing names of cops might be unfair to them | Aug 04 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they know the hash values, then people could alter the files so that the hashes are different. | Aug 04 02:21 |
| schestowitz | as in this particular cases all we know is that they did their job, busting a pervert who was a threat to kids | Aug 04 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For example, just replacing one frame of a video would change the hash. | Aug 04 02:21 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: well, they could do so regardless | Aug 04 02:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just assume that whatever they got is already compromised and alter the files. | Aug 04 02:22 |
| schestowitz | but then if they disseminate the derivative file, then that too might be added to the police/ncmec DB at one point | Aug 04 02:22 |
| schestowitz | either way, maybe we'll release other bits of the installments tonight, not hashes or anything | Aug 04 02:22 |
| schestowitz | I just need to think carefully how to present those things | Aug 04 02:22 |
| schestowitz | for some we have OCR already | Aug 04 02:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the cops saw CP | Aug 04 02:23 |
| schestowitz | they showed it to him in the car at the gates compound | Aug 04 02:23 |
| schestowitz | so they don't merely deal with file objects and hashes there | Aug 04 02:23 |
| schestowitz | they also watched videos | Aug 04 02:23 |
| MinceR | have the cops who saw CP been shut away forever yet? | Aug 04 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 04 02:24 |
| schestowitz | no | Aug 04 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You would hope so. I wonder how many take the job so they can sit there and watch CP all day and draw a big fat government paycheck. | Aug 04 02:24 |
| schestowitz | but I suppose it makes sense for properly trained ones to get reasonable suspicion based on a sample or two | Aug 04 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bust all of the stupids along the way. | Aug 04 02:24 |
| schestowitz | same in FB moderators (censors) by the way | Aug 04 02:25 |
| schestowitz | they occasionally deal with decapitations, CP etc. | Aug 04 02:25 |
| schestowitz | They sued for trauma/stress | Aug 04 02:25 |
| schestowitz | they get stuff flagged for them | Aug 04 02:25 |
| schestowitz | in GAB some nasty people send me really awful stuff | Aug 04 02:26 |
| schestowitz | to the point of making me careful not to click some things | Aug 04 02:26 |
| schestowitz | think goatse | Aug 04 02:26 |
| schestowitz | and imagine what moderators must go through | Aug 04 02:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have seen a decapitation video. | Aug 04 02:26 |
| schestowitz | when they go 'to work' | Aug 04 02:26 |
| schestowitz | BTW, DaemonFC[m], when you're ready or if you're ready for me to snitch to TSA, go ahead... | Aug 04 02:27 |
| schestowitz | but if not, then fine | Aug 04 02:27 |
| schestowitz | i think tonight I will work on releasing more Jones docs | Aug 04 02:27 |
| schestowitz | hang on, coffee | Aug 04 02:29 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: want to help out with publishing these | Aug 04 02:29 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 04 02:29 |
| schestowitz | you have all except the hashes | Aug 04 02:29 |
| schestowitz | the hashes are over 2700 pages | Aug 04 02:30 |
| schestowitz | and are pretty useless | Aug 04 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The 7th. | Aug 04 02:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | After the 7th I'm not on probation. | Aug 04 02:30 |
| schestowitz | with filenames like "billy showing off his xxx inch.." | Aug 04 02:30 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 02:30 |
| schestowitz | OK, then I might send TSA a report about that pedo | Aug 04 02:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe we can do it like a series where we split the docs into types | Aug 04 02:31 |
| schestowitz | one might be full affidavit | Aug 04 02:31 |
| schestowitz | I think we might have it OCRd | Aug 04 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Here in a few. | Aug 04 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dinner time. | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | Wish I could publish something that relates to CHina/TikTok | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | I'll get coffee and see what we have | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | spD won't release more | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | we asked them explicitly | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | so no reason to withhold publication for 'diplomatic' reasons | Aug 04 02:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ByteDance should quickly sell TikTok to someone in Europe. | Aug 04 02:32 |
| schestowitz | maybe | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | bur Europe is also not credible | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | and the nazi might badmouth europe then | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | until his nsa nazis have direct access | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | first he said US-only part | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | now the whole companu | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | Remember what Icahn did to Yahoo | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | and Elop to Nokia | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | first in chunks/pieces | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | then the whole | Aug 04 02:33 |
| schestowitz | to guy and devalue the prey, cause disarray | Aug 04 02:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nokia is back selling Android phones now. | Aug 04 02:34 |
| MinceR | is the CCP going to take this lying down? | Aug 04 02:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There was a big TikTok campaign to get tickets to Trump's Tulsa rally then not go. | Aug 04 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He might be mad about that. | Aug 04 02:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 04 02:36 |
| MinceR | good thing he heard of it as a "TikTok campaign" and not an "Internet campaign", then | Aug 04 02:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How would he enforce a shutdown of an app? | Aug 04 02:43 |
| MinceR | i don't think he thinks that far | Aug 04 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Guessing on the iPhone that would be easier. | Aug 04 02:43 |
| sebsebseb | DaemonFC[m]: MinceR schestowitz yep Microsoft want to buy Tik TOk US | Aug 04 02:43 |
| MinceR | but they'll probably try to force google and crApple to ban it from their repositories | Aug 04 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On Android, you can just install it from somewhere else. | Aug 04 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But without being in the Play Store many people can't figure that out. | Aug 04 02:44 |
| MinceR | they might also try to block the server side from the uhmerican Internet | Aug 04 02:45 |
| MinceR | or just its domain name | Aug 04 02:47 |
| MinceR | authorities in nazi hungary love blocking domains | Aug 04 02:47 |
| schestowitz | or owning them, like index.hu | Aug 04 02:47 |
| schestowitz | it's better this way | Aug 04 02:47 |
| schestowitz | this was they can relay propaganda | Aug 04 02:47 |
| schestowitz | like fbi distributing CP | Aug 04 02:48 |
| schestowitz | while hosting servers full of it | Aug 04 02:48 |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: signs of empire crumbling | Aug 04 02:48 |
| schestowitz | then using strong-arming tactics | Aug 04 02:48 |
| schestowitz | to keep all info flowing through empire | Aug 04 02:49 |
| MinceR | it's not just the domain they took over in the case of index. | Aug 04 02:49 |
| MinceR | hu | Aug 04 02:49 |
| schestowitz | I know, you told me | Aug 04 02:49 |
| schestowitz | and then they can disseminate lies through it | Aug 04 02:49 |
| schestowitz | instead of blocking the thing | Aug 04 02:49 |
| schestowitz | like Microsofters did with SLashdot over a decade ago | Aug 04 02:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I am looking at 14-22121-1_Redacted | Aug 04 02:52 |
| schestowitz | the PDF has OCR | Aug 04 02:52 |
| schestowitz | So I wonder, any point making html of it? The PDF already has everything in tact, in original form | Aug 04 02:52 |
| schestowitz | I just want to see if we need to further redact something | Aug 04 02:52 |
| schestowitz | like descriptions of child abuse | Aug 04 02:52 |
| schestowitz | If now, I can use gimp to make jpegs (or other) of the whole thing, then accompany the original PDF | Aug 04 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why would they redact something in a way that it can be undone? | Aug 04 02:53 |
| MinceR | it happened before | Aug 04 02:54 |
| MinceR | some geniuses just put black boxes above text in pdf, or something like that | Aug 04 02:54 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: which distro is more stable and why ? | Aug 04 02:57 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: 20 reasons :D | Aug 04 02:57 |
| MinceR | non-systemd GNU/Linux distros are more stable and probably so are other free unixes (preferably without a CoC, in the interest of long term stability) | Aug 04 02:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: OK, I have a problem here... | Aug 04 02:58 |
| schestowitz | some pages describe with text sex abuse of kids | Aug 04 02:59 |
| MinceR | can't say as much in detail, as the ones i prefer are new | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | AFAIK, those two might be in some sort of infringement of law | Aug 04 02:59 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: ah yes Linux Mint you are on | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | however, the defense might be transparency regarding law enforcement | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | I assume thar | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | that | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | 1) as the PD said they had redacted it | Aug 04 02:59 |
| schestowitz | 2) they specify they made that in compliance with the law | Aug 04 03:00 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: very funny | Aug 04 03:00 |
| schestowitz | then it means this is OK to publish as is | Aug 04 03:00 |
| schestowitz | as police applied its own discretion already | Aug 04 03:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You should not be getting legal advice from a police officer. | Aug 04 03:00 |
| schestowitz | But I don't want this as text/html | Aug 04 03:00 |
| schestowitz | pdf with ocr might be enough | Aug 04 03:00 |
| *sebsebseb should not get legal adviice from DaemonFC[m] or schestowitz | Aug 04 03:01 | |
| sebsebseb | and MinceR will tell me how to keep safe in Hungary :) | Aug 04 03:01 |
| schestowitz | wait, I will show you something.. | Aug 04 03:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/police-department-redactions-explained/ | Aug 04 03:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Three Things Seattle’s Police Department Redacted in the First Installment | Techrights | Aug 04 03:01 | |
| schestowitz | This is another document they added | Aug 04 03:01 |
| MinceR | sebsebseb: bring an army | Aug 04 03:02 |
| schestowitz | It explains: "http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/police-department-redactions-explained/" | Aug 04 03:02 |
| schestowitz | "Records contain depictions of sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011. RCW 9.68A.050, an other statute under RCW 42.56.070. Explanation: Disseminating visual or printed matter that depicts a minor engaged in an act of sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68.011 is a felony." | Aug 04 03:02 |
| schestowitz | but this is textual and shallow | Aug 04 03:02 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: no yuo have your connections with the criminals etc there, and now they will leave me alone as a result, if I go there :) you will be my protecter my body guard | Aug 04 03:02 |
| schestowitz | and I saw media in the US already saying similar things on the case | Aug 04 03:02 |
| MinceR | sadly, i do not | Aug 04 03:03 |
| schestowitz | So afaik, there's no issue here publishing that file | Aug 04 03:03 |
| MinceR | or maybe not so sadly | Aug 04 03:03 |
| MinceR | they can go fuck themselves | Aug 04 03:03 |
| schestowitz | also, for people to realise how perverse this is, the file keeps it vague enough | Aug 04 03:03 |
| schestowitz | " Discovery of the name Kerri Jones (kjtljones@msn.com)." | Aug 04 03:03 |
| schestowitz | An argument can be made that it's not care to involve her in this | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | (I wonder if she's somehow connected to Microsoft) | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Emails addressing/referring to Rick Jones of 1530 NW Market St, Seattle, WA 98107. | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Rick has a sister who lives on Queen Anne and has recently moved his mother into this | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | residence (previously 2 doors down from Rick). The sister appears to be Kerri Jones. | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Brett 1(n) (brettp@magichour.com) has a 1(n) | Aug 04 03:04 |
| schestowitz | Rick is referenced as Uncle RJ. Brett’s | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | telephone # is 206-817-1600. | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | Myself and others contacted this company | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | he might be selling access to a kid | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | hard to tell because of CP redaction | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | they never replies to any of us | Aug 04 03:05 |
| schestowitz | *replied | Aug 04 03:05 |
| cybrNaut | i guess the real reason the orange man wants to ban TikTok is the fact that tiktok teens punked him so one of rallies had a low turnout | Aug 04 03:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: "files about 70% of the time He described CP as XXX" | Aug 04 03:07 |
| schestowitz | What do you think that "XXX" in red is? | Aug 04 03:07 |
| schestowitz | It's not a code for redaction | Aug 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz | but I assume there might be something in there | Aug 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz | because it's in red | Aug 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz | page 12 | Aug 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz | mind you, Microsoft likely had direct access to these files | Aug 04 03:08 |
| schestowitz | either on desktop or 'cloud' | Aug 04 03:08 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tiktok-trump-exclusive/exclusive-trump-gives-microsoft-45-days-to-clinch-tiktok-deal-idUSKBN24Y0UD | Aug 04 03:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Exclusive: Trump gives Microsoft 45 days to clinch TikTok deal - Reuters | Aug 04 03:10 | |
| schestowitz | I looked up KCPAO at the end | Aug 04 03:11 |
| schestowitz | It's them https://www.kingcounty.gov/depts/prosecutor/contact-us/employee-directory.aspx | Aug 04 03:11 |
| schestowitz | it's the court | Aug 04 03:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kingcounty.gov | Attorney Directory - King County | Aug 04 03:11 | |
| schestowitz | So I suppose this grand report is what they handed over for prosecution | Aug 04 03:12 |
| schestowitz | and there might not be more to it | Aug 04 03:12 |
| schestowitz | the "XXX" part I wonder about... why was it redacted? | Aug 04 03:12 |
| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comment_(computer_programming)#Tags | Aug 04 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Comment (computer programming) - Wikipedia | Aug 04 03:12 | |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 04 03:12 |
| schestowitz | There might be evidence in between the lines about actual direct abuse | Aug 04 03:12 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: yeah, but | Aug 04 03:13 |
| schestowitz | let me show you... | Aug 04 03:13 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/14-22121-1_Redacted.pdf | Aug 04 03:13 |
| schestowitz | we might publish that soon anyway | Aug 04 03:13 |
| schestowitz | see page 12 | Aug 04 03:13 |
| MinceR | interesting | Aug 04 03:14 |
| schestowitz | our concern has, all along in fact, been that they might be hiding key things | Aug 04 03:14 |
| MinceR | looks like a redaction of unspecified length to me | Aug 04 03:14 |
| schestowitz | like.... maybe he brought the laptop to BIll and "Malinda" [sic] (that's how they spell it repeatedly) | Aug 04 03:14 |
| MinceR | of course, i suppose "JONES" could have described CP literally as "XXX", but then there would need to be a period afterwards | Aug 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | We can ask the Seattle PD what that is | Aug 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | if they want to answer at all | Aug 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | the red colour means they added it | Aug 04 03:15 |
| MinceR | "XXX, designating pornography" | Aug 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | the redaction team | Aug 04 03:15 |
| schestowitz | why in red? | Aug 04 03:15 |
| MinceR | well, the sentence is meaningless without the XXX | Aug 04 03:16 |
| schestowitz | Red is only used elsewhere in the file for redactions | Aug 04 03:16 |
| schestowitz | Page 15 of 15 | Aug 04 03:16 |
| MinceR | yeah, looks like it | Aug 04 03:17 |
| schestowitz | so they likely did not make a page or more just vanish | Aug 04 03:17 |
| MinceR | elsewhere i saw a black background, that seems to be a redaction of stuff that fits inside the box | Aug 04 03:17 |
| schestowitz | Remember they won't spoon-feed us things that can incriminate their bosses | Aug 04 03:17 |
| MinceR | but in this case, there seems to be no indication of how long the original text was | Aug 04 03:17 |
| schestowitz | It also took them almost a year to send this to us | Aug 04 03:17 |
| schestowitz | after many excuses and much struggle | Aug 04 03:17 |
| schestowitz | page 6: see 1(n) | Aug 04 03:18 |
| schestowitz | that's code for CP-related redaction | Aug 04 03:18 |
| schestowitz | so it might say "pizza" | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | (young kid) | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | and we don't know | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | the lengths vary | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | " Rick is referenced as Uncle RJ." | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | That might be what a person can call a pedo when presenting him to a kid | Aug 04 03:19 |
| schestowitz | "brettp@magichour ..." | Aug 04 03:20 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjfnp2svoDrAhX5QhUIHaZND4MQtwIwAHoECAEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fvimeopro.com%2Fmagichourfilmsseattle%2Fmagichour-films-video-magic-at-your-fingertips%2Fvideo%2F87357452&usg=AOvVaw1PaQZUB12sDYNRQt4clihP\ | Aug 04 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | Redirect Notice | Aug 04 03:20 | |
| schestowitz | The email address is mentioned here | Aug 04 03:20 |
| schestowitz | Brett Paine | Aug 04 03:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | Commercials - Brett Paine | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | 6 years ago | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | This is a quick sample of Brett Paine's style as a Writer / Director. Available for booking. brettp@magichour.com. 206-817-1600. | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | 6 years ago is the time the police got involved | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | nothing since then posted | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe they fired him | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft is their client | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | Whatever your video needs, chances are we have... | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | BEEN THERE - SHOT THAT. | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | We have the experience. We listen to your needs, develop an extremely fair budget then put together a video that will make you a hero. | Aug 04 03:21 |
| schestowitz | Free Creative Proposals, RFP's, Budgets: danm@magichour.com, jorge@magichour.com, brettp@magichour.com | Aug 04 03:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:22 |
| schestowitz | So this is the guy who calls Rich the pedo "uncle" | Aug 04 03:22 |
| schestowitz | and has a [redacted] | Aug 04 03:22 |
| schestowitz | so at least now we know the full name | Aug 04 03:22 |
| schestowitz | These commercials are terrible | Aug 04 03:23 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: "1(n)Child Pornography – RCW 9.68A.011, RCW 9.68A.050, RCW 42.56.070Records contain depictions of sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68A.011. RCW 9.68A.050, an other statute under RCW 42.56.070. Explanation: Disseminating visual or printed matter that depicts a minor engaged in an act of sexually explicit conduct as defined in RCW 9.68.011 is a felony." | Aug 04 03:24 |
| schestowitz | his surname is CP?1 | Aug 04 03:24 |
| schestowitz | If it said, | Aug 04 03:24 |
| schestowitz | "Brett Paine has a boat" | Aug 04 03:25 |
| schestowitz | it would not be classified for redaction in this way | Aug 04 03:25 |
| schestowitz | the video he made mentions Microsoft | Aug 04 03:25 |
| schestowitz | at around 20 secs | Aug 04 03:25 |
| schestowitz | 36 seconds actually | Aug 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz | along with COC, Compaq and Seagate | Aug 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz | I want to make a post about this angle alone | Aug 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz | hang on | Aug 04 03:26 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: catch up with the above in a bit... | Aug 04 03:27 |
| sebsebseb | MinceR: Appple | Aug 04 03:39 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I will let the "XXX" part slide... as we don't know enough to interpolate this redaction | Aug 04 03:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The stupidity of these people is just beyond belief. | Aug 04 03:45 |
| schestowitz | go ahead | Aug 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | I hope this will be self-explanatory | Aug 04 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fact that those files were not even encrypted. | Aug 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/seattle-pd-report-magichour.jpg | Aug 04 03:46 |
| schestowitz | see above | Aug 04 03:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They keep claiming that Truecrypt was giving them such a hard time that they were abandoning their case eventually. | Aug 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | BTW, becayse of the common name we never managed to find a mug/photo of Rich | Aug 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | *Rich | Aug 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | *Rick | Aug 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | but found some people at Microsoft with the same name | Aug 04 03:47 |
| schestowitz | likely unrelated | Aug 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | From what I've been able to put together, they avoid Windows 10 and use whole disk encryption. | Aug 04 03:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some talk about it on the clear internet, but don't actually post stuff. | Aug 04 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They trade tips on what software each other use. | Aug 04 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On those chan sites. | Aug 04 03:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't remember where I walked in and read a few lines and walked right back out. Might have been 4chan. | Aug 04 03:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/08/03/seattle-pd-report-and-magichour/ | Aug 04 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates’ Personal Engineer Rick Jones is Connected to Other Child Pornographers. One Key Contact Works (or Worked) Indirectly for Microsoft. | Techrights | Aug 04 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | does the English make sense here? | Aug 04 03:49 |
| schestowitz | it's a draft | Aug 04 03:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fact that this guy is a professional photographer raises an eyebrow. | Aug 04 03:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can say that much. | Aug 04 03:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Do you suppose that Brett and Rick were filming themselves with children? | Aug 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | see the images | Aug 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | baby topless | Aug 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | and kids | Aug 04 03:51 |
| schestowitz | rich kept footage of kids under 10 anally raped | Aug 04 03:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Did you check the name Brett Paine for arrest records? | Aug 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | I changed the summary in two places | Aug 04 03:52 |
| schestowitz | but other than that, is the English and description clear enough? | Aug 04 03:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they caught him with stuff, he would be arrested. | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | I WAS going to do that | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | please check for me | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | Seattle area | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | I don't know which registries to check and how | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | he last posted this video 6 years ago | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | around the time of Jones arrest | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | and they give his phone number | Aug 04 03:53 |
| schestowitz | the site they have is still online, but looks dated... | Aug 04 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The description seems clear enough. | Aug 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | like 1990s almost | Aug 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | cheers, I'll keep the summary as is | Aug 04 03:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, my guess is they either fired him, arrested him, or the whole company just changed to some other name and abandoned "Magic Hour" because they didn't want to appear connected. | Aug 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | the n(1) code triggered me | Aug 04 03:54 |
| schestowitz | there's some CP stuff between them | Aug 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | and we know his full name now | Aug 04 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Changing names to get rid of bad associations is something companies do all the time. | Aug 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | I found out by googling his email address | Aug 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | you can check https://vimeopro.com/magichourfilmsseattle/magichour-films-video-magic-at-your-fingertips/video/87357452 | Aug 04 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vimeopro.com | Video magic at your fingertips - Commercials - Brett Paine on Vimeo | Aug 04 03:55 | |
| schestowitz | His colleagues are named there | Aug 04 03:55 |
| schestowitz | see where they are now | Aug 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | danm@magichour.com, jorge@magichour.com, | Aug 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | Let me see if I can get their full names | Aug 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | '" | Aug 04 03:56 |
| schestowitz | Wowo | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | MagicHour | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | 15824 168th Ave NE | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | Woodinville, WA. 98072 | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | Aug 04 03:57 | |
| schestowitz | Dan 206-913-3774 | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | danm@magichour.com | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | Jorge 206-669-0784 | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | jorge@magichour.com | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | That is it | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | same 2 people | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | so they got RID of the third | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | or maybe he was arrested | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | do a search on him, immediately... | Aug 04 03:57 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RInAERigAdlosxPmZJtIngIO > | Aug 04 03:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might be him? | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | it used to be three of them | Aug 04 03:57 |
| schestowitz | then brett vanished | Aug 04 03:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://rocketreach.co/brett-paine-email_31508393 | Aug 04 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rocketreach.co | Brett Paine's email & phone | MagicHour Films's Writer/Producer/Dir email | Aug 04 03:57 | |
| schestowitz | Might be him, but common name | Aug 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | and Seattle is big | Aug 04 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 1969 1971 @ Eastern Washington University | Aug 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | do some open source intel on him | Aug 04 03:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe you can connect more data points | Aug 04 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So he's probably 69 years old or so. | Aug 04 03:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This site says the address I gave is a guy named Brett Paine who is 65-74 | Aug 04 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Lives with Pamela L Paine. | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | he called rich "uncle" | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | could they be family-related? | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | would an old man call a younger one uncle? | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | I think you can assume a younger person | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | or... | Aug 04 04:00 |
| schestowitz | What does Brett HAVE that is CP-related | Aug 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | see context of redaction | Aug 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | something he had that's so bad it had to be rubbed out from a doc that still sees as OK to call 10 year olds doing things "blowjob" | Aug 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | maybe they give cover for something | Aug 04 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A good lawyer because the household income is around $450,000. | Aug 04 04:01 |
| schestowitz | and maybe it's related to another SPD case | Aug 04 04:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe he got house arrest. | Aug 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | who? the lawyer of rick? | Aug 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.google.com/maps/place/6022+2nd+Ave+NW,+Seattle,+WA+98107/@47.6730988,-122.3595136,3a,75y,88.2h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQM9fxxnNrxsoZhYSumuUvQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192!4m5!3m4!1s0x54901435d8811d17:0xbc08de48c40a69a2!8m2!3d47.6730776!4d-122.3592229?hl=en | Aug 04 04:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google Maps | Aug 04 04:02 | |
| schestowitz | We did a couple of posts about him | Aug 04 04:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Brett... | Aug 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Wow, Seattle doesn't do underground power cables? | Aug 04 04:02 |
| schestowitz | Assuming this is the same Brett | Aug 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | He would not be a lawyer | Aug 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | more of 'artistic' type | Aug 04 04:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, I meant his lawyer. | Aug 04 04:03 |
| schestowitz | ah, well... he's a fan of Gates | Aug 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | let me show you what we know | Aug 04 04:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If he got arrested, it's possible he negotiated way down. You know? | Aug 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | This | Aug 04 04:04 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/04/20/rick-allen-jones-finer-details/ | Aug 04 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post: Finer Details About Rick Allen Jones, Bill Gates Employee Arrested for Trade of Child Exploitation Footage | Techrights | Aug 04 04:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | 13064 39th Ave NE, Seattle, WA | Aug 04 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That also comes up for Brett and Pam. | Aug 04 04:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The house is covered by trees. Can't see it from the road. | Aug 04 04:05 |
| schestowitz | and this: http://techrights.org/2019/12/25/a-year-of-suppression/ | Aug 04 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part III: Suppressing Information About a Criminal Case Regarding Pedophilia at the Home of Bill Gates | Techrights | Aug 04 04:06 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://checkpeople.com/search/Brett-Paine/in-CA/Palm-Springs/9bee8a52ce674af2935d51eda1c5dfd5 | Aug 04 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://checkpeople.com/search/Brett-Paine/in-CA/Palm-Springs/9bee8a52ce674af2935d51eda1c5dfd5 ) | Aug 04 04:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | This one says Brett Paine moved to Palm Springs, California. | Aug 04 04:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 2895 E Venetia Rd, Palm Springs CA 92262 | Aug 04 04:11 |
| schestowitz | Do we know if it's the same person? | Aug 04 04:12 |
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| schestowitz | Any criminal record of CP registry? | Aug 04 04:12 |
| schestowitz | we ought to get to the bottom of his fate | Aug 04 04:16 |
| schestowitz | as he clearly left, got sacked, or got arrested | Aug 04 04:16 |
| schestowitz | one of those things | Aug 04 04:16 |
| schestowitz | or sacked PLUS arrested | Aug 04 04:16 |
| schestowitz | and we need to know why | Aug 04 04:16 |
| schestowitz | we can open another FOIA on that | Aug 04 04:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, should do that. | Aug 04 04:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The address in California is an empty lot. | Aug 04 04:17 |
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| schestowitz | hmmm.. | Aug 04 04:17 |
| schestowitz | is it possible track-burning and is it him at all? | Aug 04 04:18 |
| schestowitz | You said he'd be retirement age now | Aug 04 04:18 |
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| schestowitz | check the registries, I'll use google-fu as it has the most extensive public indices | Aug 04 04:18 |
| schestowitz | he's on linkedin! | Aug 04 04:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjUwIC_y4DrAhW1UhUIHUqyA0EQFjAAegQIAhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fbrett-paine-6954884&usg=AOvVaw0uYkx4BHj4LOePW7HtWcOa | Aug 04 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.google.com | NO TITLE | Aug 04 04:19 | |
| schestowitz | do you have an account there | Aug 04 04:19 |
| schestowitz | ? | Aug 04 04:19 |
| schestowitz | https://rocketreach.co/brett-paine-email_31508393 | Aug 04 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rocketreach.co | Brett Paine's email & phone | MagicHour Films's Writer/Producer/Dir email | Aug 04 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | Location Seattle, Washington, United States | Aug 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Education 1969 1971 @ Eastern Washington University | Aug 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Skills Business Strategy, Television, Feature Films | Aug 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz | @mac.com | Aug 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz | So he did his education 50 years ago | Aug 04 04:20 |
| schestowitz | would be about 70, yes | Aug 04 04:21 |
| schestowitz | I think you have the right person | Aug 04 04:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe he's retired, that's another explanation | Aug 04 04:21 |
| schestowitz | WRITER/DIRECTOR: Brett Paine. We have the expertise to handle any project, backed by over 20 years of production experie...nce. MagicHour Films has been | Aug 04 04:21 |
| schestowitz | https://www.facebook.com/pg/MagicHour-Films-183324158348688/about/ | Aug 04 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MagicHour Films - About | Facebook | Aug 04 04:21 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Business details | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Price range | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | ££ | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | CONTACT DETAILS | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Call +1 206-913-3774 | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | danm@magichour.com | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | MORE INFO | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | About | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Video Problem Solvers. MagicHour Films is a full service production company based in Seattle, WA. Our award winning team will write, direct, edit your commercials, corporate, marketing, fund raising, website videos. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | MagicHour Films - Seattle, turning clients into heroes one video at a time. All facets of video and film production: Producing, writing, directing, editing. 2 Full Final Cut Edit stations, 2 Laptop edit stations. All formats. Will submit bids, rfp presentations. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | General Information | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | OWNERS: Jorge Barrera, Dan Molvar. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | WRITER/DIRECTOR: Brett Paine. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | We have the expertise to handle any project, backed by over 20 years of production experie... See more | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Public Transit | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Metro Bus stops within two blocks. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | [04:22] <schestowitz> OWNERS: Jorge Barrera, Dan Molvar. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | [04:22] <schestowitz> WRITER/DIRECTOR: Brett Paine. | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | June 2013 | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | around the incident time | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | in FB | Aug 04 04:22 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Jordan Woodworth | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | to | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | MagicHour Films | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | 21 February 2012 · | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Great working with you guys this last weekend! | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Last public FB post: "1 September 2016 " | Aug 04 04:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.facebook.com/pg/MagicHour-Films-183324158348688/posts/?ref=page_internal | Aug 04 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MagicHour Films - Posts | Facebook | Aug 04 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | They were still active in 2016 | Aug 04 04:24 |
| schestowitz | Trying Internet archive | Aug 04 04:24 |
| schestowitz | on http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contact MagicHour - MagicHour Films - Seattle, Washingto | Aug 04 04:24 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd do FOIA on all three names. | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | please do | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | there's something there | Aug 04 04:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might find something interesting on the other people. | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | you don't call 'uncle' just about anyone | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | they know each other | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | this guy makes videos and photos | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | Pornographers and Photographers | Aug 04 04:25 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20140825084203/http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Contact MagicHour | Aug 04 04:26 | |
| schestowitz | In August 2014 he wasn't listed | Aug 04 04:27 |
| schestowitz | I can't go further back in time | Aug 04 04:27 |
| schestowitz | that was already after he was busted | Aug 04 04:27 |
| schestowitz | wow, their site goes two decades back! https://web.archive.org/web/20001006223742/http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | MAGICHOUR Films: Feedback | Aug 04 04:27 | |
| schestowitz | 2000 | Aug 04 04:27 |
| schestowitz | The company used to be John and Pam in 1998 https://web.archive.org/web/19980613054024/http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | MAGICHOUR Films: Feedback | Aug 04 04:28 | |
| schestowitz | explains the old and cheesy ads | Aug 04 04:28 |
| schestowitz | Dan and Jirge might even be their kids | Aug 04 04:29 |
| schestowitz | Jorge | Aug 04 04:29 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20140825084203/http://www.magichour.com/contact.html | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Dan 206-913-3774 | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | danm@magichour.com | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Jorge 206-669-0784 | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | jorge@magichour.com | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | In this oldest snapshot of the current site Brett never shows up in this page | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | but it's after the arrest of Jone | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Jones | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | Brett must have been about 65 at the time | Aug 04 04:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: check arrest record for Brett, please | Aug 04 04:31 |
| schestowitz | This is the guy https://radaris.com/Brett-Paine/1290515154 | Aug 04 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brett F Paine, (206) 781-0770, age 71 from 2219 Minor Ave, Seattle, WA 98102 - Radaris | Aug 04 04:32 | |
| schestowitz | 71 | Aug 04 04:32 |
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| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Professional Records | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Work: | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Position: | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Food Preparation and Serving Related Occupations | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Education: | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Degree: | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Associate degree or higher | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Related to: | Aug 04 04:32 |
| schestowitz | Scott F Paine, 60 John F Paine, 82 Gail L Paine, 76 Pamela L Paine, 69 | Aug 04 04:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Pam and John! | Aug 04 04:33 |
| schestowitz | Wait, wtf | Aug 04 04:33 |
| schestowitz | maybe he's the senior at magichour? | Aug 04 04:33 |
| schestowitz | They would be about 60 | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | based on their photos | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20140825084225/http://www.magichour.com/about.html | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | About MagicHour | Aug 04 04:34 | |
| schestowitz | Dan Molvar and Jorge Barrera. We're a team. We listen. We write. We film. We edit. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | We deliver. We amaze. And when all is said and done, we make you a hero. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Jorge and Dan - went to college together. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | We worked at a TV station together. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | We formed a creatively independent | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | film company together. And now... | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | We bring two things to every project: | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | years of experience and stunning quality. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Aug 04 04:34 | |
| schestowitz | We are tenacious. We're the kind of people who get things done. We bring you old-world craftsmanship at a modest price. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Aug 04 04:34 | |
| schestowitz | At MagicHour, we marry need and artistry... | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | to deliver your video on-time and on-budget. | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | About Dan and Jorge | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | Video Magic - at your fingertips | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | "\ | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | wait, "pamc" and "johnc" | Aug 04 04:34 |
| schestowitz | so likely not related to Pamela L Paine, John F Paine, | Aug 04 04:35 |
| schestowitz | Who might be siblings, based on their ages | Aug 04 04:35 |
| schestowitz | founders of magichour seem to be john and pam | Aug 04 04:35 |
| schestowitz | but not Paine | Aug 04 04:35 |
| schestowitz | Their 90s site is here: https://web.archive.org/web/19980613053921/http://www.magichour.com/feedback/index.html | Aug 04 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | MAGICHOUR Films: Feedback | Aug 04 04:36 | |
| schestowitz | nothing sinister in it, mostly innocuous on the surface | Aug 04 04:37 |
| schestowitz | The same company; same logo, Seattle-based | Aug 04 04:37 |
| *dabblerdude has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 04 04:37 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:38 |
| schestowitz | 114 Vine Street, Seattle, WA 98121 | Aug 04 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Phone (206) 443-9818 Fax (206) 443-1453 | Aug 04 04:38 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:38 |
| schestowitz | https://completecasting.com/index.php/client-comments/ | Aug 04 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-completecasting.com | Client Comments - Complete Casting, Inc | Aug 04 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:39 |
| schestowitz | “Stephen, is an invaluable intricate part of our creative process. His depth of knowledge and personal connection to the surrounding talent base is amazing. More importantly he grasps the larger idea and connects the dots to make it all come together. Did I tell you he makes it look effortless?” | Aug 04 04:39 |
| schestowitz | – Brett Paine, Director-Magic Hour Films | Aug 04 04:39 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:40 |
| schestowitz | I got a photo of him, DaemonFC[m]: https://alumnius.net/eastern_washington_u-9642-29#id3881599 | Aug 04 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alumnius.net | Alumni US | Eastern Washington University, Spokane, Washington Area | Aug 04 04:41 | |
| schestowitz | looks a bit like J Epstein ;-) also same age group | Aug 04 04:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I think the "Magic Hour" might be a nod to that too. | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | | | Aug 04 04:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Hiding in the open. | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Brett Paine | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Greater Seattle Area | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Broadcast Media | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Education | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Eastern Washington University | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | BA Radio-Television | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Skills | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Broadcast, HD Video, Video Production, Video, Film Production, Commercials, Film, Video Editing, Television, Post Production, Broadcast Television, Directing, Media Production, Non-linear Editing, Producing, Camera, Production Managment, Short Films, Storytelling, Videography, Pre-production, Editing, Digital Media, Documentaries, Digital Video, Avid, Music Videos, Radio, Entertainment, Final Cut Pro, Web Video, Sound, Reality, New | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Media, Dvd, Avid Media Composer, Final Cut Studio, DVD Studio Pro, Camera Operating, Voice Over, Multimedia, Feature Films, Audio Post Production, Audio Editing, Cinematography, Voice Acting, Screenwriting, Radio Producing, Independent Film, Persuasive Presentations | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | | | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: in what sense? | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | does it have a special meaning? | Aug 04 04:42 |
| schestowitz | you were def. right abotu him being about 70s | Aug 04 04:43 |
| schestowitz | longtime Seattlite | Aug 04 04:43 |
| schestowitz | or WA area | Aug 04 04:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I seem to recall the phrase from something. | Aug 04 04:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Brett 1(n) (brettp@magichour.com) has a 1(n) | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Rick is referenced as Uncle RJ. Bretttelephone # is 206-817-1600. | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Discovery of name Mark Lagman, or Broadstripe(marklagman@broadstripe.net); possib | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | COuld it say, Brett has a CP record, in which Rich is referenced? | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | Trying to extrapolate here | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | also, why hide the surname and give the email address? | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | From which one can interpolate without much hassle? | Aug 04 04:45 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what does that phrase mean? | Aug 04 04:46 |
| schestowitz | mind you, he was in his late 40s when this company started | Aug 04 04:46 |
| schestowitz | or came online | Aug 04 04:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe it even goes back to the 80s, before the W.W.W. | Aug 04 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: There's tons of pedophiles that hide out among gay people, it's sad to say. | Aug 04 04:46 |
| schestowitz | His case can illuminate a trail to the Gates mansion OR Microsoft | Aug 04 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I was like 14 there was this man named Joe who started messaging me with a bunch of stuff I didn't want to see. | Aug 04 04:47 |
| schestowitz | which he worked for, at least likely did videos for | Aug 04 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He tried to bait me with some teenager (about a year older than me) that he had that he said would do stuff with him. | Aug 04 04:48 |
| schestowitz | he studied in "Eastern Washington University" | Aug 04 04:48 |
| schestowitz | That might help refine your searches | Aug 04 04:48 |
| schestowitz | given his age, it's also possible that he retired | Aug 04 04:49 |
| schestowitz | but in two places he's being associated with CP | Aug 04 04:49 |
| schestowitz | I can add a photo as addendum, but it's meaningless on its own | Aug 04 04:50 |
| schestowitz | and can cause slapp action | Aug 04 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's interesting if they didn't arrest him. | Aug 04 04:50 |
| schestowitz | https://allpeople.com/brett+paine_bfp-media-productions-llc-us | Aug 04 04:51 |
| schestowitz | https://allpeople.com/brett+paine_magic-hour-films-inc_1q-us | Aug 04 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-allpeople.com | Brett Paine - Bfp Media Productions LLC, Seattle | Aug 04 04:51 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-allpeople.com | Brett Paine - Magic Hour Films Inc, Seattle | Aug 04 04:51 | |
| schestowitz | may be the same person | Aug 04 04:51 |
| schestowitz | 6022 2nd Ave NW, Seattle, Washington (state), 98107 and 1473 Elliott Ave W, Seattle, Washington (state), 98119-3104 | Aug 04 04:51 |
| schestowitz | how far apart? | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | maybe another media entity, Bfp Media Productions LLC | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | same name, same sector | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | can you look up distance on the map | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | "Bfp Media Productions LLC " | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | "Principal at Bfp Media Productions LLC · Seattle" | Aug 04 04:52 |
| schestowitz | LLC | Aug 04 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.facebook.com/BFP-Productions-281220698998060/ | Aug 04 04:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BFP Productions - Home | Facebook | Aug 04 04:53 | |
| schestowitz | active this year it seems | Aug 04 04:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuOlGs2CMrBM5WZsUmtwJyg | Aug 04 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BFP Productions - YouTube | Aug 04 04:54 | |
| schestowitz | half a dozen videos this year | Aug 04 04:54 |
| schestowitz | so this one, where he may not be "PRINCIPAL", is more active | Aug 04 04:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 4 miles | Aug 04 04:55 |
| schestowitz | very creepy videos | Aug 04 04:55 |
| schestowitz | yikes | Aug 04 04:55 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_58j2FD300 | Aug 04 04:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Campy ala Bing fun with a real gemmy feat; The Campy Creep - YouTube | Aug 04 04:55 | |
| schestowitz | "20 Dec 2019" | Aug 04 04:56 |
| schestowitz | "not sure campy .. it may be lame .. but keep up the "good" work .. cousin ... "] | Aug 04 04:56 |
| schestowitz | 34 subscribers only | Aug 04 04:56 |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LUONa6yXjg | Aug 04 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bob Ross World Power Takeover - YouTube | Aug 04 04:57 | |
| schestowitz | first video 2 years ago | Aug 04 04:57 |
| schestowitz | so it is possible he moved from Magic Hour Films Inc to BFP Productions | Aug 04 04:57 |
| schestowitz | 4 miles away | Aug 04 04:57 |
| schestowitz | These videos are rather creepy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5Qc3kewhyA | Aug 04 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A CAMPY CREEP Announcement Apr 19, 2018 - YouTube | Aug 04 04:58 | |
| schestowitz | "Since the mid-1990's BFP Productions has hand crafted many a variety of wonderful productions for your possible enjoyments .." | Aug 04 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Not to be mistaken for another bfp https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoWK20lS1Tn4LG5fMMvoWCw | Aug 04 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BFPvideos Online - YouTube | Aug 04 05:01 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.bfpvideos.com/closed-page.html | Aug 04 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Full Service Video Marketing - BFPvideos Video Production for a Digital Marketing World | Aug 04 05:02 | |
| schestowitz | I want to see a site of theirs where he's listed as staff | Aug 04 05:02 |
| schestowitz | https://clustrmaps.com/a/1ldiuk/ | Aug 04 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-clustrmaps.com | 6029 Sycamore Ave NW, Seattle, WA - Pilcher Ken Public Records | Aug 04 05:04 | |
| schestowitz | "6022 2nd Avenue Northwest Brett F Paine, John Paine and one other resident. 9287802120 is the parcel's ID. A single family home is located on a lot of 4,791 sqft. It was built 110 years ago. It has three bedrooms and 1.1 bathrooms. The floor size is 1,900 sqft. Parking options: attached garage, detached garage, 1 space, 220 sqft garage. On September 8, 2017, the house was sold for $1,220,000. companies were registered at this address, | Aug 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz | including Bfp Media Productions LLC " | Aug 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz | So it's his company | Aug 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz | Who's John? | Aug 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz | maybe partner? | Aug 04 05:04 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Bfp Media Productions LLC is his own company | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz | CHeck US business registries if they have any | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz | It's "Companies House" here in the UK | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz | This guy is a millionaire | Aug 04 05:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: his full name is Brett F Paine | Aug 04 05:06 |
| schestowitz | [04:32] <schestowitz> This is the guy https://radaris.com/Brett-Paine/1290515154 | Aug 04 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brett F Paine, (206) 781-0770, age 71 from 2219 Minor Ave, Seattle, WA 98102 - Radaris | Aug 04 05:06 | |
| schestowitz | Same initials | Aug 04 05:06 |
| schestowitz | 71 years old | Aug 04 05:06 |
| schestowitz | bfpmedia.com is expired | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | let me check Wayback Machine | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | For additional information on photograph submissions, advertising, membership, or product availability, please visit http://www.MaliciousBitch.com. | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | CONTACT INFORMATION: | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | Public Relations | Aug 04 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.MaliciousBitch.com | Business News With Female Slant | New York | Aug 04 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | BFP MEDIA PRODUCTIONS | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/05/prweb124393.htm | Aug 04 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | MaliciousBitch.com - Seeking The Face of MBC | Aug 04 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | From 2004 | Aug 04 05:08 |
| schestowitz | site died last year | Aug 04 05:10 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20180419162246/http://www.bfpmedia.com/ | Aug 04 05:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | 宝马线上娱乐平台_www.71555.com_宝马会娱乐城百家乐 | Aug 04 05:10 | |
| schestowitz | IA has a latest snapshot for 2019 | Aug 04 05:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Malicious Bitch? | Aug 04 05:11 |
| schestowitz | 2004 | Aug 04 05:11 |
| schestowitz | it's possible this company predates his time at "magic hour" | Aug 04 05:11 |
| schestowitz | if you look at recent snapshots of that domain, it's all unrelated trash | Aug 04 05:11 |
| schestowitz | I am scanning back in time | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | "https://web.archive.org/web/20120726073251/http://www.bfpmedia.com/" | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | BFP Media Productions | Aug 04 05:12 | |
| schestowitz | BFP Media Productions provides consultation and strategic services for niche industries requiring media design, publication and editorial assistance, programming, and promotion. | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | Graphic imagery and architectural layout designs to develop attractive, corporate identity brands consistent with targetted market demographics for electronic, Internet, and traditional print productions and campaigns. | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | Project, design and promotion requests may be submitted through the contact information page. | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | After that 2012 or so it seems defunct, the site at least | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | It says Seattle | Aug 04 05:12 |
| schestowitz | so it's that same company | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | associated with his name | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | and his address | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | him and john, in the house valued at over a million bucks in WA | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20120726073251/http://www.bfpmedia.com/ | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | "Locations: Kaneohe, Hawai`i (Honolulu) & Everett, Washington (Seattle)" | Aug 04 05:13 |
| schestowitz | site looked similar in 2006 | Aug 04 05:14 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20060818053046/http://www.bfpmedia.com:80/ | Aug 04 05:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | BFP Media Productions | Aug 04 05:14 | |
| schestowitz | hardly changed in 6 years | Aug 04 05:14 |
| schestowitz | in 2004 many snapshots taken | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | when he did that "MaliciousBitch" thing | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | 04.01.2004: MaliciousBitch.com - Cold Fusion programming, database-driven, niche specific entertainment e-zine with a subsection- music review and news e-zine (Bitchin' Beatz). Currently exceeding initial projections by 3 months, with phenomenal niche readership. | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | www.MaliciousBitch.com | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | 03.01.2004: Acquisition of renowned technology design firm, Virtual Isle Solutions with elite business based clientele. Merger tentatively scheduled to integrate services Q3, 2004. | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:15 |
| schestowitz | https://web.archive.org/web/20040921210405/http://bfpmedia.com/ | Aug 04 05:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | BFP Media Productions | Aug 04 05:15 | |
| schestowitz | First snapshot around 2004 | Aug 04 05:16 |
| schestowitz | he was about 55 back then | Aug 04 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://www.spokeo.com/Brett-Paine/California/Palm-Springs/p765308111 | Aug 04 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Brett Paine's Profile | Spokeo | Aug 04 05:17 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz | Relatives: Pamela Paine • John Paine • Gail Paine | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz | Locations: Palm Springs, CA • Seattle, WA | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz | Again we have Pamela and Jogn | Aug 04 05:17 |
| schestowitz | A Pamela and a John were the Magic Hour names, but with different initials it seems | Aug 04 05:18 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: someone emailed me | Aug 04 05:18 |
| schestowitz | to say magichour does have more of a mystery to it | Aug 04 05:18 |
| schestowitz | oh, wait, this one is a "Brett P Paine " | Aug 04 05:18 |
| schestowitz | With a P | Aug 04 05:18 |
| schestowitz | but the one with the F is the same age | Aug 04 05:19 |
| schestowitz | 71 | Aug 04 05:19 |
| schestowitz | and same area | Aug 04 05:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Magic%20Hour | Aug 04 05:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: Magic Hour | Aug 04 05:20 | |
| schestowitz | "1. (noun) A period of time typically starting soon before last call and ending when a bar/club is officially closed wherein every person who has not yet hooked up and wishes to do so lowers their respective standards to “whatever is available”. Usually results in regrettable hookups with unattractive and/or fat people. When coupled with drinking large amounts of alcohol may result in truly reprehensible hookup scenarios.' | Aug 04 05:20 |
| schestowitz | Ewww | Aug 04 05:20 |
| schestowitz | so.... | Aug 04 05:20 |
| schestowitz | no comment | Aug 04 05:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | 2. (adj.) Used to describe a person who would not normally be the object of sexual attraction. Typically said person is extraordinarily unattractive or overweight. | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | “Hey dude, did you see who Melvin hooked up with last night? She was HUGE!!” | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | “Well, what do you expect at 3:30AM? It was the magic hour." | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | “Yo, have you seen the new chick that started this week? She hot?” | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | “Absolutely not, pure magic hour material.” | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | so it's definitely a sexual term | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | and their site has many shots of kids | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | http://nebula.wsimg.com/0e944fac705e91ef30022334861250f6?AccessKeyId=6D2E49AD52DC2870DDE7&disposition=0&alloworigin=1 | Aug 04 05:21 |
| schestowitz | And this creepy logo | Aug 04 05:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I remembered hearing it. | Aug 04 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Used to describe a person who would not normally be the object of sexual attraction." | Aug 04 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Children.... | Aug 04 05:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He probably figured nobody would ever notice it. | Aug 04 05:24 |
| schestowitz | https://www.google.com/search?sa=N&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=%22+Bfp+Media+Productions+%22&ved=2ahUKEwir9u_H2oDrAhWxunEKHQTPA104FBCwBHoECAcQAQ&biw=1600&bih=817 | Aug 04 05:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-" Bfp Media Productions " - Google Search | Aug 04 05:27 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: do you see what I see in the US | Aug 04 05:27 |
| schestowitz | some convicts | Aug 04 05:27 |
| schestowitz | arrest mugshots | Aug 04 05:27 |
| schestowitz | 4 out of 6 in the first row | Aug 04 05:27 |
| schestowitz | Doyle Brooks, Andres Martinez | Aug 04 05:28 |
| schestowitz | "of a Demented Housewife, Corporate Whoredom, and Bitch to Bitch, but BFP Media Productions and Malicious Bitch President Doyle Brooks-" | Aug 04 05:29 |
| schestowitz | https://www.thecheers.org/Journalism/article_864_The-Man-Behind-MaliciousBitchcom.html | Aug 04 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thecheers.org | The Man Behind MaliciousBitch.com | Aug 04 05:29 | |
| schestowitz | it's there in Google Images with arrest mugshot | Aug 04 05:31 |
| schestowitz | doesn't look like something for film | Aug 04 05:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. Whoa. | Aug 04 05:31 |
| schestowitz | let's dive deeper | Aug 04 05:32 |
| schestowitz | "School of Visual Arts, BFP Media Productions, Andres Vera Cartooning & Illustration. Education: School of Visual Arts. Andres Martinez age ~53. " | Aug 04 05:33 |
| schestowitz | Shown arrested | Aug 04 05:33 |
| schestowitz | but not the same person | Aug 04 05:33 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Andres Vera Martinez age ~77 | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Lived in: | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Brooklyn, NY • Del Valle, TX • Austin, TX • Pasadena, TX • Staten Island, NY • Round Rock, TX • La Belle, FL • Houston, TX • Hartford, CT • New York, NY | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Related to: | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Margaret Hartwig, Armando Martinez, Andrew Martinez, Lusecita Martinez, Oscar Martinez, Amelia Martinez, Valerie Cabrera, Anthony Cabrera, Jesus Cabrera | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Work: | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | School of Visual Arts, BFP Media Productions, Andres Vera Cartooning & Illustration | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Education: | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | School of Visual Arts | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | ' | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Notice "BFP Media Productions," | Aug 04 05:34 |
| schestowitz | Arrest Records from Partner site | Aug 04 05:38 |
| schestowitz | https://radaris.com/p/Doyle/Brooks/ | Aug 04 05:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doyle Brooks - Address, Phone Number, Public Records | Radaris | Aug 04 05:38 | |
| schestowitz | Not in WA | Aug 04 05:38 |
| schestowitz | TX and AL | Aug 04 05:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks like he's in his 30s in the mugshot. | Aug 04 05:38 |
| schestowitz | Jun 15, 1979 | Aug 04 05:39 |
| schestowitz | Doyle Houston Brooks and Doyle Randall Brooks Jr. in AL | Aug 04 05:39 |
| schestowitz | I am trying to see why they come up when I search for "BFP Media Productions" | Aug 04 05:39 |
| schestowitz | This one USED to be in Washington https://radaris.com/~Doyle-Brooks/1289198897 | Aug 04 05:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Doyle Brooks, age 70 from Clarksville, TX - Radaris | Aug 04 05:40 | |
| schestowitz | About the same age as Rick Jones mate | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz | to whom he's "uncle" | Aug 04 05:40 |
| schestowitz | " BFP Media Productions and Malicious Bitch President Doyle Brooks" | Aug 04 05:41 |
| schestowitz | That's Brett's company | Aug 04 05:41 |
| schestowitz | apparently registered as his home address | Aug 04 05:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://bizstanding.com/p/bfp+media+productions-21836355 | Aug 04 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bfp Media Productions, Kaneohe HI - Company Profile | BizStanding | Aug 04 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | http://www.allusbiz.com/bfp-media-productions-kaneohe-hi-96744.html | Aug 04 05:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.allusbiz.com | Bfp Media Productions - Kaneohe 96744 | All US Biz | Aug 04 05:42 | |
| schestowitz | "$100.000 to $499.999" | Aug 04 05:42 |
| schestowitz | annual revenue | Aug 04 05:42 |
| schestowitz | Doyle Brooks (President) | Aug 04 05:43 |
| schestowitz | so the Bfp Media Productions and Malicious Bitch thing are connected | Aug 04 05:43 |
| schestowitz | The Bfp Media Productions specify an hawaii address and Seattle | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | 45-21 Lilipuna Pl | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | 45-21 Lilipuna Pl, Kaneohe, HI 96744, USA | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | https://radaris.com/~Doyle-Brooks/1289198897 | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Clarksville, TX | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Lacey, WA | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Colorado Springs, CO | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Calhan, CO | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Bonney Lake, WA | Aug 04 05:44 |
| schestowitz | Kapolei, HI | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | AHA!!! | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | Kapolei, HI | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | Same person | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | one year younger than Brett | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | This company may have been partly disbanded | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | and we don't know what happened | Aug 04 05:45 |
| schestowitz | you might want to inquire with police | Aug 04 05:46 |
| schestowitz | as US resident you can request records, I cannot | Aug 04 05:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For some reason, Malicious Bitch sounds familiar. | Aug 04 05:46 |
| schestowitz | Doyle Brooks is in Clarksville, TX now | Aug 04 05:46 |
| schestowitz | Also resided in Lacey and Bonney Lake in Washington | Aug 04 05:47 |
| schestowitz | SPD decided to redact stuff, with code that implies child porn, twice | Aug 04 05:47 |
| schestowitz | not by mistake | Aug 04 05:47 |
| schestowitz | so there might be more there | Aug 04 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://jldesantos1968.wixsite.com/avideditor/about | Aug 04 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jldesantos1968.wixsite.com | ABOUT | avideditor | Aug 04 05:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I like how he quoted Roman Polanski. | Aug 04 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: This whole company is a hive of pedophiles. | Aug 04 05:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They keep dropping hints. | Aug 04 05:50 |
| schestowitz | Whose site is this? | Aug 04 05:51 |
| schestowitz | Oh, I see | Aug 04 05:52 |
| schestowitz | https://jldesantos1968.wixsite.com/avideditor | Aug 04 05:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jldesantos1968.wixsite.com | DEMO REEL | avideditor | Aug 04 05:52 | |
| schestowitz | is he staff there? | Aug 04 05:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://services.creativecow.net/s/13357/bfp-productions | Aug 04 05:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wwwm.creativecow.net | CreativeCOW | Aug 04 05:53 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I watched Rosemary's Baby just for the hell of it. | Aug 04 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not a great movie. | Aug 04 05:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Speaking of Polanski. | Aug 04 05:56 |
| schestowitz | we might want to request something further from the police | Aug 04 05:56 |
| schestowitz | but I am not sure what | Aug 04 05:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was interested in Polanski because Michael said "You could pull a Roman Polanski and just go to Indiana. They'll never pay to extradite you over a misdemeanor.". | Aug 04 05:56 |
| schestowitz | or on what public interest basis | Aug 04 05:56 |
| schestowitz | hmmm... the red hat layoffs article seems to have just gone 'viral' | Aug 04 05:57 |
| schestowitz | two requests per second for the article | Aug 04 05:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: OK, tell you what. I will publish the whole PDF now | Aug 04 05:58 |
| schestowitz | raw, not much commentary | Aug 04 05:58 |
| schestowitz | do we need to request in public help with this? | Aug 04 05:58 |
| schestowitz | I will publish also as images | Aug 04 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Journalistic interests. | Aug 04 05:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His name came up as a result of a police investigation into Rick Jones. | Aug 04 05:59 |
| schestowitz | not just arbitrarily | Aug 04 06:00 |
| schestowitz | two CP-related redactions | Aug 04 06:00 |
| schestowitz | and based on correspondence between them it seems | Aug 04 06:00 |
| schestowitz | with the term "uncle" | Aug 04 06:00 |
| schestowitz | But we need to think how to put that clearly in text | Aug 04 06:01 |
| schestowitz | the IRC logs will be published raq | Aug 04 06:01 |
| schestowitz | *raw | Aug 04 06:01 |
| schestowitz | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Magic%20Hour | Aug 04 06:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: Magic Hour | Aug 04 06:01 | |
| schestowitz | Very bad name for a company | Aug 04 06:01 |
| schestowitz | with a vampire-like thing as logo | Aug 04 06:01 |
| schestowitz | and children as case studies for photography | Aug 04 06:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Creepy Uncle Rick | Aug 04 06:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Funny Uncle" | Aug 04 06:10 |
| schestowitz | uncle 20 years younger than him | Aug 04 06:12 |
| schestowitz | 45 or so at the time | Aug 04 06:12 |
| schestowitz | Brett was 65 | Aug 04 06:12 |
| schestowitz | the creepy uncle who masturbates to images of kids aged 9 being anally penetrated by adults | Aug 04 06:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 4-5 times a day | Aug 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *week | Aug 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, why would he admit anything to the detective? | Aug 04 06:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a lot of stupid criminal stuff here. | Aug 04 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wasn't encrypted on his drives, he was emailing it over Gmail. | Aug 04 06:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He confessed to most of it in a police car. | Aug 04 06:16 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: | Aug 04 06:16 |
| schestowitz | grep layoff /var/log/httpd/techrights.org-access_log | wc | Aug 04 06:16 |
| schestowitz | 17028 316121 3193731 | Aug 04 06:16 |
| schestowitz | many people are reading this | Aug 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: what he told detective is likely less than what was real | Aug 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | like frequency, % of of it (70%) | Aug 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | he belittled his deeds | Aug 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | like saying only the desktop computer 'might' have it | Aug 04 06:17 |
| schestowitz | "if any" | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | he had loads of it all over the rooms, even on external media | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | so we don't really know about distribution | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | how it got there | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | who he gave it to | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | but one can imagine there was also dissemination outside email | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | inc. to wong... for his "wang" | Aug 04 06:18 |
| schestowitz | https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wang | Aug 04 06:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.urbandictionary.com | Urban Dictionary: Wang | Aug 04 06:19 | |
| schestowitz | "b) Penis, see dong, schlong, dork, johnson, cock, prick, dick" | Aug 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz | I guess you already knew that slang | Aug 04 06:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: OT: Americans, Go Home: Canadians Track U.S. Boaters Sneaking Across The Border https://text.npr.org/s.php?sId=898165324 | Aug 04 06:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Text-Only NPR.org : Americans, Go Home: Canadians Track U.S. Boaters Sneaking Across The Border | Aug 04 06:20 | |
| schestowitz | just seen it now | Aug 04 06:20 |
| *schestowitz made 15 images from the pdf | Aug 04 06:21 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: the redhat article is still accessed like twice a second, or 120 times a minute | Aug 04 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bots? | Aug 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz | no | Aug 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz | they fetch the image too | Aug 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz | REQS REQ/S KB KB/S URL | Aug 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz | 32 1.10 4744 164*/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/red-clocks-1538608.jpg | Aug 04 06:23 |
| schestowitz | about a megabyte a second | Aug 04 06:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who is accessing it that much? | Aug 04 06:29 |
| schestowitz | many people with Linux browsers | Aug 04 06:33 |
| schestowitz | a few iphones | Aug 04 06:33 |
| schestowitz | ~50 reqs a second, on average | Aug 04 06:34 |
| schestowitz | for all files, not just article | Aug 04 06:34 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/r06ue1/status/1290497850489544704?p=p | Aug 04 06:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@r06ue1: Congratulations @IBM destroying one of the great operating systems and cultures all in the pursuit of profit. https://t.co/6JXJoJi1Sc | Aug 04 06:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/ ) | Aug 04 06:38 | |
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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/architect_josh/status/1290509473409359873?p=p | Aug 04 06:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@architect_josh: https://t.co/g2ZEy7mGde This is bullshit FYI. Just clickbait. I'm a Red Hatter, we're hiring rather strongly and em… https://t.co/1Zm6D1jxjI | Aug 04 06:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@architect_josh: https://t.co/g2ZEy7mGde This is bullshit FYI. Just clickbait. I'm a Red Hatter, we're hiring rather strongly and em… https://t.co/1Zm6D1jxjI | Aug 04 06:39 | |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 06:39 |
| acer-box | 52m | Aug 04 06:39 |
| acer-box | techrights.org/2020/08/02/red… This is bullshit FYI. Just clickbait. I'm a Red Hatter, we're hiring rather strongly and employee morale is higher than when the acquisition finalized - and it was high then. | Aug 04 06:39 |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 06:39 |
| acer-box | https://mobile.twitter.com/kallisti5/status/1290511679072145410?p=p | Aug 04 06:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mobile.twitter.com | Twitter | Aug 04 06:40 | |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 06:40 |
| acer-box | 43m | Aug 04 06:40 |
| acer-box | I love @redhat #linux, I built a great career on it. Man articles like this hit right in the feels. I've been in somber reflection since big blue bought Red Hat. This was the direction we all knew it could go... Maybe we were just in denial | Aug 04 06:40 |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 06:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: getting ready for ad hominem attacks... | Aug 04 06:49 |
| schestowitz | on why techrights is "bullshit" | Aug 04 06:49 |
| schestowitz | LOL | Aug 04 06:49 |
| psydread | now let's get amused at all the attempts at damage control | Aug 04 06:49 |
| schestowitz | When they don't have factual refutation | Aug 04 06:49 |
| schestowitz | psydread: they can dish it on | Aug 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz | I can respond | Aug 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz | some are insiders | Aug 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz | they still get their IBM paycheck | Aug 04 06:50 |
| schestowitz | unlike their sacked colleagues | Aug 04 06:50 |
| psydread | interesting that I saw this coming back in 2003 when I simply stopped using Red Hat distributions and never installed it for anyone else again | Aug 04 06:52 |
| kingoffrance | its entirely possible both things are true too: ppl kept are told things are great, ppl layed off are quietly escorted out; this seems very possible to me | Aug 04 06:53 |
| psydread | yes, I installed it at work for closed source middleware such as Oracle, but that's all it's been good for since they left the end-user desktop | Aug 04 06:53 |
| kingoffrance | whether deliberate or not, that happens all the time IMO | Aug 04 06:53 |
| psydread | that would be another EPO-like situation | Aug 04 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Published draft: http://techrights.org/2020/08/04/police-report-gates-residence-arrest/ | Aug 04 06:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Release: Police Report About Arrest of Bill Gates Engineer for Pedophilia (Detained at Residence of Bill Gates) | Techrights | Aug 04 06:54 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: check the English? I think clarity should be OK | Aug 04 06:54 |
| psydread | I can't imagine you're unaware of what's happening around you unless you're intentionally kept in the dark | Aug 04 06:54 |
| schestowitz | EPO will lay off many | Aug 04 06:54 |
| schestowitz | it's rogue to the core | Aug 04 06:54 |
| schestowitz | need to proofread http://techrights.org/2020/08/04/police-report-gates-residence-arrest/ | Aug 04 06:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-adjusts-fees-to-help-meet-operational-needs | Aug 04 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.uscis.gov | USCIS Adjusts Fees to Help Meet Operational Needs | USCIS | Aug 04 06:54 | |
| schestowitz | I expect many people will read it | Aug 04 06:54 |
| schestowitz | they follow techrights only for gates updates | Aug 04 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I need to make sure Mandy's new work permit application is postmarked before October 2nd. | Aug 04 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or else it's a $550 filing fee instead of $410. | Aug 04 06:55 |
| schestowitz | then a month later make sure Trump is deported from the White House | Aug 04 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was planning to mail it at the beginning of September to give them the full 180 days to screw around. | Aug 04 06:55 |
| kingoffrance | well i just mean depends how many physical builidngs there are, divisions, products, languages, ... | Aug 04 06:57 |
| kingoffrance | the larger the org, the more likely left hand doesnt know what right hand is doing IMO ...aside from deliberate compartmentalization or not | Aug 04 06:58 |
| kingoffrance | more potential IMO | Aug 04 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "then a month later make sure Tru"> schestowitz: My vote for president won't matter much. I'm in Illinois. | Aug 04 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The last poll I saw had Biden 21 points ahead of Trump here. | Aug 04 06:58 |
| kingoffrance | ill call it the clusterfuck multiplier, and put those all as variables affecting it | Aug 04 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll mostly be voting to get rid of the prosecutor. | Aug 04 06:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I managed to sabotage the plea deal while technically upholding my entire end of it. | Aug 04 06:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: It was like that Babylon 5 episode where they realize what he did and the guy comes in and says "YOU! Where's the amnesty agreement!?". | Aug 04 07:00 |
| kingoffrance | C = BDPL + E + L (total Employees) (Length of time entity has been around) | Aug 04 07:00 |
| kingoffrance | s/entity/Entity/ | Aug 04 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I huddled with my attorney and said "My doctor doesn't do therapy. He just does medication management every 6 months.". | Aug 04 07:00 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: popular vote should be the overall vote | Aug 04 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He goes, "Well, the prosecutor doesn't know that.". I said, "Don't tell them.". | Aug 04 07:01 |
| schestowitz | this state gerrymandering thing gives waaaay too much wiggling room for corrupt regimes to game | Aug 04 07:01 |
| kingoffrance | scratch that *entity is fine | Aug 04 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I am in a swingy congressional district. | Aug 04 07:01 |
| schestowitz | it's against the principle of equal voting, too | Aug 04 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Brad Schneider only won by like 4 points in 2018 iirc. | Aug 04 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll be voting for him. | Aug 04 07:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Backstop for a second term of Trump. | Aug 04 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the Democrats can keep the House at least he'll have to rule by executive order for a while longer. It's better than getting new law. | Aug 04 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Republicans are triaging. | Aug 04 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're holding back money from House Republican candidates to spend on Trump and the Senate. | Aug 04 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They see that the Democrats will stay in the majority and the minority party doesn't really do much in the House, so there's no real gain from a slight expansion to the minority. | Aug 04 07:19 |
| schestowitz | 21k views now | Aug 04 07:23 |
| schestowitz | the red hat piece, actual read, not just browse past | Aug 04 07:23 |
| schestowitz | Looks like Gates here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-53644147/james-lovelock-gaia-theory-creator-on-coronavirus-and-turning-101 | Aug 04 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | James Lovelock: Gaia theory creator on coronavirus and turning 101 - BBC News | Aug 04 08:02 | |
| schestowitz | even dresses the same | Aug 04 08:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I published the first batch of the first installment | Aug 04 08:07 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: if you have spare time, wanna help prepare the second batch of installment 1? | Aug 04 08:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Aug 04 08:08 |
| schestowitz | lots of ipv4 and ipv6 addresses in it | Aug 04 08:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's really late here atm. | Aug 04 08:08 |
| schestowitz | and we published excepts | Aug 04 08:08 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ok, we can carry on tomorrow | Aug 04 08:09 |
| schestowitz | I don't want to publish it too | Aug 04 08:09 |
| schestowitz | *too fast | Aug 04 08:09 |
| schestowitz | as people cannot digest and will not digest if info-overloaded | Aug 04 08:09 |
| schestowitz | the red hat layoffs article is clocking about 3GB/hour | Aug 04 08:09 |
| schestowitz | keeps the servers screaming | Aug 04 08:09 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security-Oriented Kodachi Linux 7.2 Released with One of the Best Secure Messengers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140608 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a1f99f51-caa3-4eb7-a70f-5d1f402311d7] | Aug 04 08:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.thelayoff.com/t/166wOGqo#replies | Aug 04 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | How big are the layoffs coming in August? - post regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs | Aug 04 08:21 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Big layoffs at Oracle. | Aug 04 08:21 |
| schestowitz | oh good | Aug 04 08:22 |
| schestowitz | in the news too? | Aug 04 08:22 |
| schestowitz | or not yet? | Aug 04 08:23 |
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| schestowitz | I read about some in March | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | is this relates to the March wave? | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | or newer? | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | I can find you March reports | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | and then you can compare numbers | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | seems 'fashionable' now for companies to lay off in clandestine fashion | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | ibm also | Aug 04 08:23 |
| schestowitz | minimal compliance with laws and shareholders-demanded transparency | Aug 04 08:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Not yet, it seems. | Aug 04 08:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, word is that Larry Ellison is chopping them up to get ready to sell off divisions. | Aug 04 08:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft's going to buy part of it. | Aug 04 08:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: August 3rd they said. | Aug 04 08:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So yesterday. | Aug 04 08:25 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/alexstamos/status/1290063479227858944 | Aug 04 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexstamos: This video is bonkers: 1) Microsoft is the most important company in global enterprise tech and a US champion 2)… https://t.co/CybBi3nP1m | Aug 04 08:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@alexstamos: This video is bonkers: 1) Microsoft is the most important company in global enterprise tech and a US champion 2)… https://t.co/CybBi3nP1m | Aug 04 08:27 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Not just US layoffs at Oracle. Worldwide. Includes China. | Aug 04 08:32 |
| schestowitz | I know | Aug 04 08:32 |
| schestowitz | but related to March? | Aug 04 08:32 |
| schestowitz | which units? | Aug 04 08:32 |
| schestowitz | business units? | Aug 04 08:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No raises being given this year. | Aug 04 08:33 |
| schestowitz | alex blocked me | Aug 04 08:33 |
| schestowitz | I never even spoke to Stamos | Aug 04 08:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks like heavily in the database division and support. | Aug 04 08:34 |
| schestowitz | oh good | Aug 04 08:35 |
| schestowitz | mariadb is ok anyway | Aug 04 08:35 |
| schestowitz | virtualbox might be ok | Aug 04 08:35 |
| schestowitz | licence-wise | Aug 04 08:35 |
| schestowitz | so not much left to 'save' at oracle | Aug 04 08:35 |
| schestowitz | btrfs? zfs? | Aug 04 08:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe there won't be anyone interested in suing over ZFS eventually. | Aug 04 08:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The majority of BtrFS contributions come from outside of Google these days. | Aug 04 08:37 |
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| schestowitz | quote:\ | Aug 04 08:41 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/08/why-should-cnn-tweet-about-individuals-cervix | Aug 04 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newstatesman.com | Why should CNN tweet about "individuals with a cervix"? | Aug 04 08:41 | |
| schestowitz | # trolls now widening the range of attacks | Aug 04 08:41 |
| schestowitz | -Anon | Aug 04 08:41 |
| schestowitz | indeed, wth? | Aug 04 08:42 |
| schestowitz | what has the press come to? | Aug 04 08:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't even want to comment on this | Aug 04 08:42 |
| schestowitz | looks like nonsense designed to derail adult discussion about real issues | Aug 04 08:42 |
| schestowitz | x https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/leonardo-dicaprios-appian-way-productions-inks-apple-first-look-film-tv-deal-1234723728/ | Aug 04 08:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Leonardo DiCaprio's Appian Way Productions Inks Apple First-Look Deal - Variety | Aug 04 08:46 | |
| schestowitz | # marketeering | Aug 04 08:46 |
| schestowitz | wtf?!? | Aug 04 08:46 |
| schestowitz | ads as movies | Aug 04 08:46 |
| schestowitz | not just as 'articles' | Aug 04 08:46 |
| schestowitz | or 'segments' | Aug 04 08:46 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: now at 35k | Aug 04 10:35 |
| schestowitz | and still going up, same pace more or less | Aug 04 10:35 |
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| scientes | why is it so hard to install python modules? | Aug 04 12:30 |
| scientes | and the documentation all says "this is obsolete, don't use this" | Aug 04 12:31 |
| scientes | but still doesn't tell you how to do it | Aug 04 12:31 |
| scientes | and everyone wants to tell you a bunch of useless shit | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | like "use a virtualenv" | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | when all I want to do is install the damn thing | Aug 04 12:32 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's so hard about pip3 install or whatever | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | they don't get the #1 problem is too many abstractions | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | MinceR, all pip3 wants to do is to pull from the internet | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | there is absolutely no documentation of how to do a local install | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | and again "use virtualenv" | Aug 04 12:32 |
| scientes | with no documentation on the basics | Aug 04 12:33 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: You know the best part? As far as "modern" languages go, python is not heavy on abstractions. | Aug 04 12:33 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: https://docs.python.org/3/library/venv.html | Aug 04 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.python.org | venv — Creation of virtual environments — Python 3.8.5 documentation | Aug 04 12:33 | |
| scientes | I have a setup.py | Aug 04 12:33 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 04 12:33 |
| scientes | how to do i create a package and install it | Aug 04 12:33 |
| scientes | that is all I want to know | Aug 04 12:33 |
| scientes | my script only can find the package if I copy it INTO the package folder | Aug 04 12:33 |
| MinceR | iirc the packages setup.py uses can create packages in a few formats | Aug 04 12:34 |
| scientes | I like go where the language forces this to be a simple process | Aug 04 12:34 |
| scientes | without too many abstractions | Aug 04 12:34 |
| MinceR | lol no generics | Aug 04 12:34 |
| scientes | TBH I haven't used go | Aug 04 12:35 |
| scientes | but the way it handles packages is genius | Aug 04 12:35 |
| scientes | because it is zero abstractions | Aug 04 12:35 |
| MinceR | https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/reference/pip_install/#local-project-installs | Aug 04 12:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pip.pypa.io | pip install — pip 20.2.1 documentation | Aug 04 12:35 | |
| MinceR | maybe this does it? | Aug 04 12:35 |
| MinceR | https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/reference/pip_install/#argument-handling | Aug 04 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pip.pypa.io | pip install — pip 20.2.1 documentation | Aug 04 12:36 | |
| MinceR | allegedly any "local directory" that contains a setup.py should suffice | Aug 04 12:36 |
| scientes | OK, so there this package is funny I guess | Aug 04 12:36 |
| scientes | it has a subodule valentycore.usbcore | Aug 04 12:36 |
| scientes | that doesn't get installed | Aug 04 12:36 |
| MinceR | fun | Aug 04 12:36 |
| scientes | can I just copy this directory tree somewhere? | Aug 04 12:37 |
| scientes | cause it works if I copy the script into this folder | Aug 04 12:37 |
| scientes | again, #1 problem too many abstractions | Aug 04 12:37 |
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| schestowitz | [12:30] <scientes> why is it so hard to install python modules? | Aug 04 13:02 |
| schestowitz | sounds like perl | Aug 04 13:03 |
| scientes | like I understand the C rules, but the abstractions are the #1 reason that C code is not reusable | Aug 04 13:03 |
| scientes | because your program always ends up depending on your build system | Aug 04 13:03 |
| MinceR | if you abhor abstractions so much, why don't you use machine code? | Aug 04 13:04 |
| scientes | MinceR, turing complete languages always have abstractyions | Aug 04 13:04 |
| scientes | the point is to wirely chose them | Aug 04 13:04 |
| scientes | *wisely | Aug 04 13:04 |
| scientes | actually the C standard does not have these abstractions | Aug 04 13:05 |
| scientes | it all comes from the preprocessor | Aug 04 13:05 |
| scientes | which is a totally different language | Aug 04 13:05 |
| MinceR | C without cpp isn't very usable | Aug 04 13:05 |
| scientes | it just needs better abractions, like an infinite tree | Aug 04 13:06 |
| scientes | instead of a flat function namespace | Aug 04 13:06 |
| kingoffrance | posix might have rules for e.g. shared libraries, c is neutral on lots of things | Aug 04 13:06 |
| kingoffrance | dlopen() and dynamic linking i suspect are all beyond c lang itself | Aug 04 13:07 |
| schestowitz | c is simple | Aug 04 13:08 |
| schestowitz | cpp is hard (to debug, study code that isn't yours...) | Aug 04 13:08 |
| schestowitz | c is OK for code monkeys like greg k-h | Aug 04 13:09 |
| schestowitz | they now debate rust | Aug 04 13:09 |
| schestowitz | as if mozilla idiocy hosted by Microsoft is what the kernel should be controlled by | Aug 04 13:09 |
| schestowitz | see the CoC of rust | Aug 04 13:09 |
| scientes | rust has alot of the c++ problems | Aug 04 13:09 |
| schestowitz | it's excluding by design | Aug 04 13:09 |
| scientes | like they removed float128 for no reason at all | Aug 04 13:09 |
| scientes | when llvm supports float128 | Aug 04 13:09 |
| scientes | rust also throws llvm-ir at llvm | Aug 04 13:10 |
| scientes | just tons and tons of ir | Aug 04 13:10 |
| scientes | it is nuts | Aug 04 13:10 |
| scientes | and expects llvm to clean it all up | Aug 04 13:10 |
| schestowitz | llvm is a bad yardstick for me for several reasons | Aug 04 13:21 |
| schestowitz | there's this wave of corporate/military takeover in the digital domain/realm | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | they came from behind/were left behind | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | now they liaise with their budget to pull ahead | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | and to regain their stupid full-spectrum dominance | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | llvm is part of it | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | github another | Aug 04 13:22 |
| schestowitz | llvm uses github and problematic licence | Aug 04 13:23 |
| schestowitz | you know who will control it, with licence as well ad key devs | Aug 04 13:23 |
| schestowitz | ibm taking over red hat another step in this direction | Aug 04 13:23 |
| schestowitz | many gcc devs are red hat and suse | Aug 04 13:23 |
| schestowitz | i don't know who will buy suse, but it'll be some back-doors-living US firm, with financial support from imperial objectives | Aug 04 13:24 |
| schestowitz | *loving | Aug 04 13:24 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: 60k+ now | Aug 04 14:20 |
| schestowitz | I can barely keep the server from timing out | Aug 04 14:21 |
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| MinceR | https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-forbidden-cave/ | Aug 04 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pbfcomics.com | The Forbidden Cave - The Perry Bible Fellowship | Aug 04 14:42 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/683159.jpg | Aug 04 15:27 |
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| acer-box | https://twitter.com/JuanBellas/status/1290673568980893697?p=p | Aug 04 16:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JuanBellas: #IBM ya está destripando a #RedHat y despidiendo empleados sin previo aviso, Jim Whitehurst, presidente de IBM, ni… https://t.co/KZW0D3Vfwp | Aug 04 16:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@JuanBellas: #IBM ya está destripando a #RedHat y despidiendo empleados sin previo aviso, Jim Whitehurst, presidente de IBM, ni… https://t.co/KZW0D3Vfwp | Aug 04 16:41 | |
| acer-box | "#IBM ya está destripando a #RedHat y despidiendo empleados sin previo aviso, Jim Whitehurst, presidente de IBM, ni siquiera está utilizando #GNULinux, usa Mac." | Aug 04 16:41 |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/maikeltjeonline/status/1290662931051565057?p=p | Aug 04 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@maikeltjeonline: Reading some bad news about #Redhat . https://t.co/kp581HZvsy | Aug 04 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 500 @ https://techrights.org/2020/08/02/red-hat-layoffs/ ) | Aug 04 16:42 | |
| acer-box | https://twitter.com/jeg1972/status/1290673357109723138?p=p | Aug 04 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeg1972: I this is true, its is very, very sad... Red Hat was always one of the companies I wanted to work at (I'm not sayin… https://t.co/Ud8D4ZETqy | Aug 04 16:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@jeg1972: I this is true, its is very, very sad... Red Hat was always one of the companies I wanted to work at (I'm not sayin… https://t.co/Ud8D4ZETqy | Aug 04 16:42 | |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 16:42 |
| acer-box | 2m | Aug 04 16:42 |
| acer-box | I this is true, its is very, very sad... Red Hat was always one of the companies I wanted to work at (I'm not saying I was good enough, just loved what they do/did) and again IBM screw it up... | Aug 04 16:42 |
| acer-box | " | Aug 04 16:42 |
| MinceR | wrong, it was already fucked up before | Aug 04 16:44 |
| scientes | Bus 001 Device 032: ID 1209:5bf0 Generic Fomu PVT running DFU Bootloader v1.9.1 | Aug 04 16:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-list-all-members-of-a-group/ | Aug 04 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | Linux Show All Members of a Group Command - nixCraft | Aug 04 16:50 | |
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| schestowitz | https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/onlive-server-launched-uk-vps-server-hosting-service-with-hypervisor-kvm-cloud-panel-and-ssd-storage-301105833.html | Aug 04 17:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Onlive Server Launched UK VPS Server Hosting Service with Hypervisor KVM Cloud Panel and SSD Storage | Aug 04 17:34 | |
| schestowitz | "While conducting research on the pros, you will need to take special note of the OS Reinstall facilities. Based on such facilities you can proceed and pick up Operating Systems such as CentOs, Debian, Ubuntu, and multiple Windows VPS versions such as 2008, 2012, 2016, 2019, and Custom OS." | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Custom OS | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz | Unspecified | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz | unbranded | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "I'll have that one, pleaee" | Aug 04 17:34 |
| schestowitz | "it looks OK from the box..." | Aug 04 17:34 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: : 250 deaths with #covid19 reported today in #Florida and #texas + #california might be another 500. 3 states alone have as many deaths as 50 states a month ago | Aug 04 20:00 |
| schestowitz | 90k views of that article by now | Aug 04 20:00 |
| schestowitz | still going strong, will smash past 100k soon | Aug 04 20:00 |
| schestowitz | Sounds like something a sicko might say... https://www.hindustantimes.com/health/really-good-quality-sex-education-starts-very-very-early-melinda-gates/story-OMgcxyPhY6PNMLtLPL3BxL.html | Aug 04 20:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | ‘Really good quality sex education starts very, very early’: Melinda Gates - health - Hindustan Times | Aug 04 20:11 | |
| MinceR | the reason they spell it malinda >> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mal#French | Aug 04 20:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | mal - Wiktionary | Aug 04 20:13 | |
| schestowitz | :-) | Aug 04 20:14 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/01/24/bill-gates-and-viruses/ | Aug 04 20:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates “Uploaded a Virus he Had Written and Caused the Entire Network to Crash.” | Techrights | Aug 04 20:16 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <TechrightsBot-tr "www.hindustantimes.com | ‘Really"> LOL | Aug 04 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | VERY early. According to Detective Ian. | Aug 04 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rick wasn't, strictly speaking, gay, if you notice the details here. | Aug 04 20:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The second description shows that he was watching a 10 year old girl being raped by an adult man. | Aug 04 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure that homophobes would love to paint this as "some gay chomo", but it's really obviously not that simple. | Aug 04 20:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My guess is that the guy is just a complete freak who would take whatever he could get, and if that was Mr. Wong it was Mr. Wong. | Aug 04 20:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Probably met him on Grindr or something. | Aug 04 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like John would. | Aug 04 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's much, much easier to get random men to agree to casual sex, so it follows that people who are a total freak of nature and have sex with other men are more of an opportunist than gay. | Aug 04 20:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe they want something right now and they don't want a lot of barriers in the way. So you open Grindr and your phone starts exploding, and Mr. Wong is the one he meets and it turns out that Wong is another person with the same psychological profile as Rick. | Aug 04 20:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John's perversions were what sent me over the edge because I had told him repeatedly "Do whatever you want at this point, just don't bring it into our house." then he does. | Aug 04 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy he brought home could have done a hell of a lot better than John, but it seems lik there's a lot of that on Grindr. | Aug 04 20:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Grindr is probably spreading COVID-19 like it does everything else. | Aug 04 20:36 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20020512 | Aug 04 20:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4332831) | Aug 04 20:36 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I ran into an article on poz dot com where they were screaming at people not to hook up while the pandemic was raging. | Aug 04 20:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said to myself, "Well, if HIV didn't scare them, what would?". | Aug 04 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That publication is such a fucking Pharma astroturf it's not even funny. | Aug 04 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fake AIDS activist Peter Staley runs it and he takes a lot of Pharma money and he pretends like he's some kind of OG AIDS victim who fought the man. | Aug 04 20:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just pathetic. | Aug 04 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I used a gang term, because it's the mentality. | Aug 04 20:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, "I survived the streets back in the day. 1970s Chicago. What do you got? Pussy!" | Aug 04 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody fucks with them because of "respect". | Aug 04 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's how a lot of the older people with HIV who survived the 1980s act. | Aug 04 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He wrote a self-aggrandizing documentary called How to Survive a Plague. | Aug 04 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Step 1. Have a body chemistry that slows down HIV due to accident of birth. | Aug 04 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Step 2. Be rich and profiteer from Big Pharma and let them slip you drugs while everyone else dies. | Aug 04 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This guy is just a fucking fuck and he manages to actually convince people that he's not. | Aug 04 20:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a mutant gene that results in HIV having a harder time invading cells, which white Europeans tend to have a single or double copy of approximately 4% of the time (single) or 1.2% of the time (double). | Aug 04 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can slow down HIV to the point where some people never progress to AIDS or it takes 20 or 30 years for it to happen even without medication. | Aug 04 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Asians just don't have the gene at all, really. | Aug 04 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have the gene mutation. | Aug 04 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I paid for a genetic profile after I became suspicious that several people I was involved with all went on to die and had it while they were with me and I don't have it. | Aug 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't use one of those things that requires a EULA though. | Aug 04 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I went through my doctor's office. So theoretically the genetic profile is more private that way. | Aug 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's kind of scary how genetic testing "apps" are out there where they send you a kit and you agree that your DNA is their intellectual property. | Aug 04 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can do all sorts of unethical studies with it and you can't stop them at that point. | Aug 04 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They've been looking for a "gay gene" forever. Why? What would they do with it when they found one? Christians get a fetal DNA test and if they don't like what they see, it's off to the abortion clinic? | Aug 04 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The producers of South Park are actually very opposed to abortion, and if you look at the context of their abortion jokes it shows. | Aug 04 20:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not terribly thrilled with it. Cartman was correct when he said "It's the ultimate life cheat. You're cheating nature itself and you're cheating that little guy right out of a chance at life.". But goes on to explain that the major reason why white women get ahead is that if they get pregnant in high school or college and don't want it to interfere, they go to the abortion clinic, while telling minorities that | Aug 04 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | abortion is wrong and a despicable way to sleaze out of responsibility for your actions. | Aug 04 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the end result it that whites just keep racking up education and higher salaries while black and brown people get babies that they can't afford and flip hamburgers and have to take welfare. | Aug 04 20:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The very least that comes from not having kids if you still end up in a dead end job is that at least you have a fighting chance to keep your head above water. | Aug 04 21:00 |
| MinceR | yeah, you're cheating that little guy right out of a lifetime of suffering, trapped in a body that hardly works, on a planet infested with humans, forming a society that fails hard | Aug 04 21:00 |
| MinceR | poor little guy | Aug 04 21:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Heh. Doesn't have to be this way. | Aug 04 21:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody will turn on the billionaires because they're far more concerned about their own daily problems. | Aug 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | indeed | Aug 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | but humans insist on it | Aug 04 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If the guy next door is getting $5 more in food stamps. | Aug 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | it's not just the billionaires either | Aug 04 21:01 |
| MinceR | there's also the constant fight so people get to run other people's lives and/or get other people to run their lives | Aug 04 21:02 |
| MinceR | the constant effort to brainwash children to induct them into some cult before they have a chance to defend their minds | Aug 04 21:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd say that in our current system, abortion is the lesser evil if you've really got one on the way you can't take care of. If people want to make abortion unnecessary, they need better social programs or higher wages, or both. | Aug 04 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The abortion clinics really serve the people who say they won't pay higher taxes for better social welfare programs and it's like that scene from Scarface where he gets drunk and says "YOU NEED PEOPLE LIKE ME SO YOU CAN POINT YOUR FUCKING FINGERS AND SAY....'THAT'S THE BAD GUY!'". | Aug 04 21:04 |
| kingoffrance | lol | Aug 04 21:05 |
| kingoffrance | thats in a restaurant IIRC | Aug 04 21:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah it was. Second best scene in the movie, after the ending where he busts out a machine gun and says "SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!". | Aug 04 21:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think one of my favorite movie scenes though was in Die Hard where he sends Hans Gruber's dead henchman back up the elevator in a Santa Claus hat. | Aug 04 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | IIRC, they fill it with bullets before realizing it's not John McClane and then Gruber reads the note in a German accent. "Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho....". | Aug 04 21:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "lol"> My mom doesn't get any of my references. | Aug 04 21:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When we were in court after I had my attorney negotiate my plea deal, and I was waiting to talk to the judge, mom asked which ones were the prosecutors. | Aug 04 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Oh Hans Gruber and Anubis from the cafe scene in Stargate SG-1 over there.". | Aug 04 21:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I had to explain what Die Hard and Stargate SG-1 were. | Aug 04 21:12 |
| MinceR | well, contraception is even better than abortion | Aug 04 21:15 |
| MinceR | but it doesn't always work | Aug 04 21:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Well, since you have to go to a doctor for the pill, but not for Plan B, I know of women who make the guy wear a condom and then just take a Plan B pill the morning after each time they have sex. | Aug 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because the doctor visits can really get expensive. | Aug 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | More so than just paying $15 every time you have sex to get a pill. | Aug 04 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you don't have insurance, it can cost $400 or more 4 times a year to go to the doctor to get refills. | Aug 04 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a big scam, really. | Aug 04 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then with Trump gutting the ACA, your employer can invoke Christian Sharia Law on your healthcare plan. | Aug 04 21:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Depending on the state. Illinois passed a law requiring contraceptive coverage in all employer plans with no religious exemption. | Aug 04 21:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I got another mechanic that asked why I was using 0w30 oil in my old Impala. | Aug 04 21:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, as for flow rate, it doesn't make much difference 3/4ths of the year in Waukegan, but in winter it can mean the difference between the oil taking 5 seconds and 25 seconds to reach the top of the engine. Plus there are fewer impurities that cause wear. I'm trying to make sure this thing lasts a while.". | Aug 04 21:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The sooner you get oil to all parts of the engine, the quicker it's not running dry, basically. | Aug 04 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So with most cars that see any sort of extreme cold weather, it's not a bad idea to use 0wWhatever. | Aug 04 21:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They only make it in synthetic so that's what I'm using. | Aug 04 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems rather stupid to be running an engine that's old with a lot of miles anyway and showing some upper end wear and not do something relatively cheap to try to stop it from getting worse. | Aug 04 21:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These engines could have gone so much longer, at least the really expensive metal stuff, if GM had specced 0w30 and nothing else from the factory. | Aug 04 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've basically been getting it rebuilt in pieces. | Aug 04 21:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All that cheap plastic junk started to go last year. | Aug 04 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's in there again with this stupid upper intake right now. | Aug 04 21:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Before Austin beat me up I was going to work on his van for him. | Aug 04 21:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I managed to diagnose the problem. It was sensor wiring that had become exposed and you could reach down in there and pull the sensor right out. Not easily. But a new sensor was like $50 and all the shops wanted $200. So he was driving this thing around with the check engine light on and it would stall out every time he went through the car wash or a through a puddle. | Aug 04 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The independents want about $100-150 per labor hour in my neck of the woods, and dealer labor on all of these "modern" pieces of shit with the really "sophisticated" electronics and computer software want like $450 an hour. | Aug 04 21:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you give up and definitely get rid of the car on schedule now. | Aug 04 21:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The cars now are a rolling computer. You get into an accident and it may not even be worth fixing it if the sensors need recalibrating, even if the damage isn't that bad. | Aug 04 21:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Only certain shops can do it. It requires expensive software and space to calibrate things and you can look at a $2,000 repair bill to recalibrate a lane departure warning system that the government is going to make mandatory. | Aug 04 21:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is terrible. Just terrible. | Aug 04 21:33 |
| MinceR | cars have been rolling computers for ages | Aug 04 21:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I hated lane departure warning on that loaner car I got from Kia while my car was in the shop. | Aug 04 21:34 |
| kingoffrance | yes, that why i never got into cars -- too much parts + tools + computers now too | Aug 04 21:35 |
| kingoffrance | and you need space to work | Aug 04 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I go to merge onto the expressway and the "safety feature" almost got me killed because _I_ know I have room to merge and I'm running out of ramp, right? | Aug 04 21:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The computer decides it's not safe to merge because what I consider an acceptable margin of distance for a given speed came into conflict with the government, so the computer tries to take the steering wheel away from me and I almost had a head on crash with those water buckets. | Aug 04 21:36 |
| kingoffrance | that sounds like it would not work well in california :) | Aug 04 21:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't work well in Chicago. | Aug 04 21:37 |
| kingoffrance | there is no "safe" | Aug 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can only wait to see the hilarity that ensues when it's mandatory and you have everyone fighting their car at once. | Aug 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This 40 car pile up brought to you by the government. | Aug 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government. Always knows what's best! | Aug 04 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can still steer, but it fights you, and you have to really lean on the steering wheel to make it turn. | Aug 04 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So your focus goes from how to merge safely to how to fight for the wheel. | Aug 04 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not good. Not good. | Aug 04 21:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're trying to make driving your own car such a pain in the ass that you give up and take Elon Musk's autodrive which runs into parked police cruisers and hits a pedestrian while Tesla goes "Oops, thought she was a plastic bag.". | Aug 04 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They say the computer driving the car is safer. It's not. I have not once hit a pedestrian and then told the cop "Gee sorry, my brain registered her as a plastic shopping bag.". | Aug 04 21:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They would have taken my license away and charged me with a crime. | Aug 04 21:41 |
| superkuh | Fully autonomous is obviously infeasible in the near future for a car generally licensed to travel around the USA. It's just that much of the USA spends 1/3 of the year under snow. And during those times the absolute road markings and absolute position mean nothing. Only human intuition will guide you to the emergent paths in uncleared snow. These conditions last for weeks or months (road surface markings not visible, edges of roads change p | Aug 04 21:43 |
| superkuh | osition due to snow bank, etc). | Aug 04 21:43 |
| superkuh | It would require a car that had mastery of human intuition and behavior. | Aug 04 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It can go on and on for 4-5 months here if you get really unlucky. | Aug 04 21:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a nightmare to drive through that. | Aug 04 21:44 |
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| superkuh | Sure. I just meant periods between snow removal on roads. | Aug 04 21:44 |
| superkuh | winter is longer. | Aug 04 21:44 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, they clear out the main road here because it's an industrial park. | Aug 04 21:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's advantages to living next to a bunch of big corporations that pay the city to get to them first. | Aug 04 21:45 |
| MinceR | 04 223822 < DaemonFC[m]> You can still steer, but it fights you, and you have to really lean on the steering wheel to make it turn. | Aug 04 21:49 |
| MinceR | can't you just disable LKA? | Aug 04 21:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, it's got this really irritating beeping too. | Aug 04 21:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Generally, the aftermarket gasket kits for these GM engines are much, much better than what the engine came with. | Aug 04 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you'll most likely never have a problem on that particular spot again. | Aug 04 22:02 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I hate doing this. | Aug 04 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Have to take Uber to the car repair place. | Aug 04 22:44 |
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