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| schestowitz | FR : Actuellement en phase de test. | Jun 05 00:00 |
| schestowitz | EN : Currently in testing. | Jun 05 00:00 |
| schestowitz | RU : В настоящее время находится на стадии тестирования | Jun 05 00:00 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 00:00 |
| XRevan86 | A PeerTube instance. | Jun 05 00:01 |
| *Broyal (~6d466451@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 00:01 | |
| schestowitz | 6 years ago https://video.chalec.org/w/q6Yk1M62dFTaJuSmHzt6GV | Jun 05 00:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-video.chalec.org | 20160416-R.M.Stallman-Choisy - Vidéo Chalec | Jun 05 00:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Yes, but to get the latency down there's a lot of features of AAC that get turned off. | Jun 05 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | Like the bit reservoir. | Jun 05 00:03 |
| DaemonFC | At least iirc. | Jun 05 00:03 |
| *XRevan86 doesn't know. | Jun 05 00:04 | |
| DaemonFC | The bit reservoir requires looking into other frames to complete the data that goes over the part of the frame you're using. | Jun 05 00:04 |
| DaemonFC | Opus doesn't really need to do this because the bitrate is arbitrary. | Jun 05 00:04 |
| XRevan86 | I'd imagine that Opus would be a better fit for high-quality sound than anything else. | Jun 05 00:06 |
| XRevan86 | For low-latency maybe not. | Jun 05 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/101.0/releasenotes/ | Jun 05 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mozilla.org | Firefox 101.0, See All New Features, Updates and Fixes | Jun 05 00:07 | |
| techrights-news | Malcom X - Richard Stallman https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Myz2djRFnxE | Jun 05 00:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Malcom X - Richard Stallman - Invidious | Jun 05 00:07 | |
| DaemonFC | Another "major version bump" with nothing important. | Jun 05 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | Still one version behind Chromium :) | Jun 05 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | They're almost exactly one version apart. | Jun 05 00:07 |
| DaemonFC | One design goal of Opus was low algorithmic delay. | Jun 05 00:07 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: But is it lower than SBC? | Jun 05 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | I think under the worst case situation, it's about 6% of the algorithmic delay of MP3 and about 1/3rd of xHE-AAC. | Jun 05 00:08 |
| Broyal | best codec is ogg | Jun 05 00:08 |
| DaemonFC | It would probably be imperceptibly different as far as compared with SBC. | Jun 05 00:09 |
| Broyal | its what pigs use | Jun 05 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | Broyal: OGG is not a codec at all, it's a container. | Jun 05 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | Where you really start running into aggravating delay problems is around 80 ms. | Jun 05 00:09 |
| XRevan86 | Broyal: Opus is conventionally packed into OGG. | Jun 05 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | So xHE-AAC, which allegedly competes with Opus, it's pushing into that boundary. | Jun 05 00:09 |
| DaemonFC | And you walk into another patent mess. | Jun 05 00:10 |
| DaemonFC | So there's really no reason to use it. | Jun 05 00:10 |
| Broyal | x265 is best video codec | Jun 05 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | Broyal: Better than AV1? | Jun 05 00:10 |
| XRevan86 | "Opus is conventionally packed into OGG" <- Also into Matroska as .webm | Jun 05 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | x265 is excruciatingly slow. | Jun 05 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Like, if you want to rip a Blu Ray and convert, you need to leave the computer going all night, and that's with a beefy video card helping out. | Jun 05 00:11 |
| Broyal | i dont do rips :) | Jun 05 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC: Apparently AV1 is heavier to encode than HEVC. | Jun 05 00:12 |
| Broyal | you leave the computer going all night | Jun 05 00:13 |
| Broyal | who cares | Jun 05 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | But AV1 should be better overall. | Jun 05 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | Not only because it's royalty-free unlike H.265 :). | Jun 05 00:14 |
| Broyal | use a cloud encoder | Jun 05 00:14 |
| Broyal | upload it to yt and download it again as AV1 | Jun 05 00:15 |
| *XRevan86 shrugs at this helpful advice. | Jun 05 00:15 | |
| Broyal | doesnt yt rencodes your videos? | Jun 05 00:16 |
| XRevan86 | Obviously does. | Jun 05 00:17 |
| Broyal | i was shooting in the dark | Jun 05 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | Depends what you upload in. | Jun 05 00:17 |
| DaemonFC | If you upload WebM to begin with, it does not re-encode unless someone wants to view it in Safari or something. | Jun 05 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed that when I downloaded some videos that were obviously Opus to begin with. | Jun 05 00:18 |
| DaemonFC | For the audio codec. | Jun 05 00:18 |
| Broyal | https://onlinevideoconverter.com/ easy as 1234 | Jun 05 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Free Video Converter, Online Video Downloader, Screen Recorder - OnlineVideoConverter.com | Jun 05 00:19 | |
| XRevan86 | What a useless discussion. | Jun 05 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | YouTube to MP3 rippers are the worst. | Jun 05 00:19 |
| DaemonFC | It can go from MP3 to Opus to MP3 again. | Jun 05 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | It's possible to get an .opus file with yt-dlp without any re-encoding whatsoever. | Jun 05 00:20 |
| XRevan86 | Directly, no manual ffmpeg use involved. | Jun 05 00:21 |
| Broyal | e are now mobile compatible! Access our website using any Android device to convert videos and download directly to your mobile phone or tablet. | Jun 05 00:22 |
| Broyal | no need to keep computer on all night | Jun 05 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | ffmpeg is a mess | Jun 05 00:23 |
| XRevan86 | It is? | Jun 05 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | Too many codecs that are redundant and half-finished. | Jun 05 00:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so do't use them | Jun 05 00:24 |
| Broyal | What video formats do you support? We support conversions to most of the available media formats out there, which include .mp3, .m4a, .aac, .flac, .ogg, .wav, .wma, .mp4, .avi, .mpg, .wmv, .mov, .flv and .m4v. | Jun 05 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | They make "native codecs" and they aren't very good and they just get put in there and left. | Jun 05 00:25 |
| DaemonFC | And then you have to use the official one anyway, which is a plug-in. | Jun 05 00:25 |
| Broyal | there a bunch of online video convertersd | Jun 05 00:28 |
| Broyal | you just need a sumb terminal to use them | Jun 05 00:28 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-30-22-16.jpg | Jun 05 00:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hi Broyal | Jun 05 00:30 |
| Broyal | bro? | Jun 05 00:31 |
| Broyal | anyone seen topgun remake? | Jun 05 00:34 |
| techrights-news | Rare Interview With Richard Stallman (Uploaded Friday) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/richard-stallman-brazil/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/04/richard-stallman-brazil/ | Jun 05 00:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Rare Interview With Richard Stallman (Uploaded Friday) | Techrights | Jun 05 00:37 | |
| Broyal | is it the Richard Stallman saga say? | Jun 05 00:37 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not sure what that means... | Jun 05 00:38 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I was trying to find as video of his talk in paris | Jun 05 00:38 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | last night | Jun 05 00:38 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | seems they still work o it.. | Jun 05 00:38 |
| Broyal | are you making a series? | Jun 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, Speaking of Arnold, The Terminator is one of my favorite movies. | Jun 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Overall, I'm not a huge fan though, of him. | Jun 05 00:39 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | gn | Jun 05 00:39 |
| Broyal | Richard Stallman talks 0102 | Jun 05 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | Terminator and T2 should really be considered one movie. | Jun 05 00:40 |
| DaemonFC | The rest kind of suck. They keep starting things over or rehashing the same formula. | Jun 05 00:40 |
| techrights-news | Snow Leopard a Day — Day 251 gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D251.jpg | Jun 05 00:40 |
| techrights-news | "I'm getting sick of my work. I don't think admin. work is right for me, so I guess I'll start looking for other things." gemini://eph.smol.pub/1654375222 | Jun 05 00:41 |
| Broyal | admin. work is the best you just sit back or work on your shit | Jun 05 00:42 |
| techrights-news | "Quite ironically, my family immigrated to Israel when I was a baby, and Israel is a pretty racist country (even among Jews). The situation is worse in the periphery, where poverty, crime and lack of education meet educated "fresh meat" with a foreign accent." gemini://gemini.dimakrasner.com/my-name-is-dima.gmi | Jun 05 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, It's too bad that James Cameron and John Carpenter never got together and did anything. | Jun 05 00:43 |
| techrights-news | Better Gemini Search Results with Kennedy and Gemipedia gemini://gemi.dev/gemlog/2022-06-04-better-search-results.gmi | Jun 05 00:44 |
| DaemonFC | Carpenter had a lot of good ones too, like Escape From New York and The Thing. | Jun 05 00:44 |
| techrights-news | Covid tests are impossible for older folks gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-04.covid-tests.gmi | Jun 05 00:44 |
| Broyal | whats with this gemini links? are you trying to break the internet? | Jun 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | fixing it | Jun 05 00:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | get a gemini client | Jun 05 00:45 |
| Broyal | never | Jun 05 00:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | https://gemini.circumlunar.space/software/ | Jun 05 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gemini.circumlunar.space | Gemini software | Jun 05 00:46 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2021/04/28/joining-gemini-space/ | Jun 05 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Joining Gemini Space and Reading Over Encrypted Connection Without Unnecessary Clutter | Techrights | Jun 05 00:46 | |
| Broyal | you like Gemini cause you cant encript your own site | Jun 05 00:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | techrights does https too | Jun 05 00:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | see you late | Jun 05 00:48 |
| Broyal | so why it says here connection not secure? | Jun 05 00:48 |
| *matey (~matey@tfn9zfd6gs4qu.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 00:51 | |
| Broyal | bro | Jun 05 00:51 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PV3pe3ywnrY | Jun 05 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Cookie Monsta - Me Want Cookie (dubstep) - Invidious | Jun 05 00:51 | |
| Broyal | dubstep you on crack? | Jun 05 00:52 |
| matey | NO JUST COOOOOOOOOOOOOOKIE | Jun 05 00:52 |
| matey | OM NOM NOM NOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM | Jun 05 00:53 |
| matey | RRMMRMRMRMR | Jun 05 00:53 |
| matey | /me thinks its funny that someone would just like dubstep then all of a sudden stop liking it | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | imo you either like it or you dont | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | if you only like what people tell you to like, when they tell you to like it, then you dont really like anything | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | youre just doing what youre told | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | "like this" | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | "okay!" | Jun 05 00:54 |
| matey | /me goes to look for debbia gibson dubstep | Jun 05 00:55 |
| matey | DEBSTEP | Jun 05 00:55 |
| matey | maybe the worlds not ready for that | Jun 05 00:56 |
| Broyal | who likes dubstep? | Jun 05 00:56 |
| Broyal | only the FBI likes dubstep so they can tell the criminals aprt | Jun 05 00:57 |
| matey | only the FBI likes dubstep <- okay so basically skillex is a federal agent then | Jun 05 00:58 |
| matey | cool | Jun 05 00:58 |
| Broyal | skillex is higher | Jun 05 00:58 |
| Broyal | must be nsa cia hls | Jun 05 00:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▆▆▆▆▅▇▅▇▆▆▇▇▆▅▆▆▃▅▅▆▅▄▅▅▆▅▅▇▅▆▇▁ avg(k/sec) 31.66 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.61▕ swarm size (avg): 53.23 ⟲ | Jun 05 00:59 |
| matey | maybe just illuminati | Jun 05 00:59 |
| matey | skrilluminati | Jun 05 00:59 |
| matey | skrilluminatix | Jun 05 00:59 |
| Broyal | i recon you could fill up pages with acronyms | Jun 05 00:59 |
| matey | FBCINSA | Jun 05 00:59 |
| Broyal | who the fuck skillex? | Jun 05 01:00 |
| matey | its facebook+fbi+cia+nsa all rolled into one | Jun 05 01:00 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/funny-pictures-6-3-22-12.jpg | Jun 05 01:00 |
| matey | FBCINSATI | Jun 05 01:00 |
| matey | facebook+fbi+cia+nsa+illuminati | Jun 05 01:00 |
| Broyal | interpol mossad | Jun 05 01:00 |
| Broyal | kgb | Jun 05 01:00 |
| MinceR | fsb | Jun 05 01:00 |
| MinceR | pla | Jun 05 01:00 |
| matey | M-O-U-S-E | Jun 05 01:00 |
| MinceR | K-I-S-S-I-N-G | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | MICKEY MOUSE | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | DONALD TRUMP! | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | MICKEY MOUSE | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | DONALD TRUMP! | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | ah gagagagagagagaga | Jun 05 01:01 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 05 01:01 |
| matey | who is popeye the sailors favourite popeye artist? | Jun 05 01:02 |
| matey | lady gagagagagagagagaga | Jun 05 01:02 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 05 01:02 |
| matey | going for the dumbest joke ive ever told | Jun 05 01:03 |
| matey | thats right up there | Jun 05 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | Lister: "A great philosopher once said 'I am what I am." Rimmer: "That was Popeye the Sailor Man!" | Jun 05 01:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, Did you run into _any_ good speaker systems? | Jun 05 01:03 |
| matey | i found a shitty remix of fallen angel but its still not dubstep | Jun 05 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | I like the Bose so far. The bass can be a bit much. They recommend placing it 2 feet in front of a wall. | Jun 05 01:04 |
| DaemonFC | If you can't do that, you can tell it to put the bass in "reduced" mode. | Jun 05 01:04 |
| matey | before the internet went all mainstream, cult classics were classics BECAUSE they were shit | Jun 05 01:04 |
| matey | people dont understand | Jun 05 01:04 |
| matey | they were great, because they were terrible | Jun 05 01:05 |
| matey | the worst they were, the better | Jun 05 01:05 |
| matey | https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090190/ | Jun 05 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Toxic Avenger (1984) - IMDb | Jun 05 01:05 | |
| matey | PETER DINKLAGE | Jun 05 01:06 |
| matey | that was so long ago, he probably didnt even know he was little yet | Jun 05 01:06 |
| matey | he was still a kid | Jun 05 01:06 |
| matey | unless he was even smaller | Jun 05 01:06 |
| matey | elijah wood? | Jun 05 01:07 |
| matey | he was alive? | Jun 05 01:07 |
| matey | was he like 2? | Jun 05 01:07 |
| matey | "after i got the part as oscar in ghostbusters ii" | Jun 05 01:07 |
| matey | no that was 2 years later | Jun 05 01:07 |
| matey | "A 98-pound nerd (Mark Torgl) from New Jersey lands in a vat of toxic waste and..." | Jun 05 01:10 |
| matey | somehow can tell the difference? | Jun 05 01:10 |
| matey | by comparison spiderman is just mr fancy pants | Jun 05 01:13 |
| matey | "oh so yer raydeeoactiv? dats great!" | Jun 05 01:14 |
| matey | "why6 dont ya climb up dis woool an kiss my ayss?" | Jun 05 01:15 |
| Broyal | matey is a MS waiting to happend | Jun 05 01:16 |
| DaemonFC | Probably the only person listening to Scissor Sisters on a Bose Wave. | Jun 05 01:16 |
| matey | anyway | Jun 05 01:16 |
| matey | in 1995 the supreme court determined that "de minimum" didnt apply to sampling | Jun 05 01:17 |
| matey | it applies to everything except music | Jun 05 01:17 |
| matey | funny that | Jun 05 01:17 |
| matey | nothing to do with selling out to labels | Jun 05 01:17 |
| matey | and where MERICA(tm) does wrong, the rest of the world tends to follow suit | Jun 05 01:17 |
| matey | tony blair | Jun 05 01:17 |
| DaemonFC | Tony B'Liar | Jun 05 01:18 |
| matey | thats why techno-rights is so important | Jun 05 01:18 |
| matey | we need the freedom to sample menudo | Jun 05 01:18 |
| matey | and make them not suck | Jun 05 01:19 |
| matey | with some great beats | Jun 05 01:19 |
| Broyal | LOL | Jun 05 01:20 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=TNHZBSnEwdk | Jun 05 01:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Men at Work - Land down under (Dubstep Remix) - Invidious | Jun 05 01:22 | |
| matey | i never thought id say this but the one with avicii is worse | Jun 05 01:24 |
| matey | s/minimum/minimus/ | Jun 05 01:26 |
| matey | i dont even know how i did that | Jun 05 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> we need the freedom to sample menudo | Jun 05 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart gave me some tripe and I gave it to someone else. | Jun 05 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I ordered corned beef and the computer substituted tripe. | Jun 05 01:28 |
| DaemonFC | I got a refund but they still handed me the tripe. | Jun 05 01:28 |
| matey | YES!!!!! | Jun 05 01:29 |
| matey | the only thing that make dubstep better | Jun 05 01:29 |
| matey | klezmer! https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Swn0onEfSn4 | Jun 05 01:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Klezmer Step - Bradley [Dubstep] - Invidious | Jun 05 01:29 | |
| matey | /me buys bigger speakers | Jun 05 01:30 |
| MinceR | FLA and Mick Gordon both made dubstep-ish stuff that's great | Jun 05 01:30 |
| matey | jokes aside ill look it up | Jun 05 01:30 |
| matey | good music is good music, no matter wtf theyre doing | Jun 05 01:31 |
| Broyal | anyone that likes dubstep should be outlawed | Jun 05 01:31 |
| Broyal | dubstep is prison music | Jun 05 01:31 |
| matey | if dubstep is prison music. whats АЗИС | Jun 05 01:32 |
| Broyal | that what they used in that iraq prison | Jun 05 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | <Broyal> that what they used in that iraq prison | Jun 05 01:33 |
| DaemonFC | They used the Cookie Monster song too. | Jun 05 01:34 |
| Broyal | thats what i said | Jun 05 01:34 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Jun 05 01:35 | |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 01:35 | |
| MinceR | there's no accounting for taste | Jun 05 01:36 |
| matey | zero | Jun 05 01:36 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XpbwfWQcRFQ | Jun 05 01:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | AZIS Mega MIX 2021 - Invidious | Jun 05 01:36 | |
| Broyal | this channel must be runed by the KKK | Jun 05 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-approved-tiktok-videos-wont-help-working-americans | Jun 05 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thedailybeast.com | Biden-Approved TikTok Videos Won’t Help Working Americans | Jun 05 01:38 | |
| DaemonFC | "Even the TikTokers know the Biden administration thinks they’re stupid." | Jun 05 01:38 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 05 01:38 |
| matey | yes, roy is the grand high master | Jun 05 01:38 |
| matey | sorry! grand high main | Jun 05 01:39 |
| matey | manchester chapter | Jun 05 01:39 |
| matey | the kheap keyboard klan | Jun 05 01:41 |
| DaemonFC | "Psaki is often flippant when asked about problems plaguing Americans, once joking about the supply-chain “tragedy of a treadmill delayed.” Not exactly “I feel your pain” stuff, here. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg told MSNBC that if families bought electric vehicles, they’d "never have to worry about gas prices again.” This was said in November, the same month Republican Glenn Youngkin was elected governor of | Jun 05 01:42 |
| DaemonFC | Virginia—in what’s been seen by many political observers as a predictor of the coming midterm elections." | Jun 05 01:42 |
| matey | in the same way that 4chan likes to pretend its far right, the kheap keyboard high main pretends to be far left | Jun 05 01:42 |
| matey | inventing pseudocommunist symbolistic nonsense to troll people who arent in on the joke | Jun 05 01:43 |
| matey | like the hammer and scythe, an emo/goth/faux marxist bar in manc opened by members | Jun 05 01:44 |
| matey | really they just like to get drunk and watch football, but they dress it up in all this soviet stuff | Jun 05 01:45 |
| matey | its hilarious | Jun 05 01:45 |
| matey | plus they all wear white facepaint and dark eyeshadow | Jun 05 01:45 |
| matey | and all their football/drinking songs sound like cradle of filth | Jun 05 01:46 |
| matey | and talk about how the working class will destroy west ham | Jun 05 01:46 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Jun 05 01:47 | |
| MinceR | i suspect imageboarders stopped pretending that long ago | Jun 05 01:47 |
| *psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 01:47 | |
| MinceR | they attracted and got replaced by actual fascists | Jun 05 01:48 |
| matey | i suspect imageboarders stopped pretending that long ago <- killing a bunch of people who didnt actually do anything is taking a joke farther than i would think was in good taste | Jun 05 01:48 |
| matey | i dont even think andy kaufman would take it that far | Jun 05 01:48 |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 01:48 | |
| AdmFubar | https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S4104 | Jun 05 01:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nysenate.gov | NY State Senate Bill S4104A | Jun 05 01:49 | |
| matey | "haha, funny joke" | Jun 05 01:49 |
| matey | no andy! bad! bad andy | Jun 05 01:49 |
| matey | "oh, very sorry" | Jun 05 01:49 |
| MinceR | "it's just a prank, bro" | Jun 05 01:49 |
| matey | hitler: "what? why is no one laughing?" | Jun 05 01:49 |
| matey | but ricky gervais could actually pull it off | Jun 05 01:50 |
| matey | "so nietzche, have you written anything lately?" | Jun 05 01:50 |
| matey | "im not sure i want to tell you now" | Jun 05 01:51 |
| matey | "oh cmon" | Jun 05 01:51 |
| matey | "ok, its called 'the gyppos, do we really need them?'" | Jun 05 01:51 |
| matey | its funny because france is germany AGAIN | Jun 05 01:52 |
| matey | /me is literally dancing to gypsy music right now | Jun 05 01:52 |
| matey | fuck macron and everyone who elected him | Jun 05 01:52 |
| matey | fuck macaroni too | Jun 05 01:52 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=zWaymcVmJ-A | Jun 05 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Los Del Rio - Macarena (Bayside Boys Remix) - Invidious | Jun 05 01:53 | |
| matey | rofl | Jun 05 01:55 |
| matey | "French President Says Putin Made Historic Error, Macron: Russia Should Not Be Humiliated" | Jun 05 01:55 |
| matey | what fucking good is parody anymore? | Jun 05 01:55 |
| matey | how is it supposed to compete with this? | Jun 05 01:55 |
| matey | its not a special operation, its a "historic error" | Jun 05 01:56 |
| matey | dont lets be beastly to pudding | Jun 05 01:56 |
| matey | hes really nice when you get to know him | Jun 05 01:56 |
| Broyal | sarkosi got drunk with putin | Jun 05 01:57 |
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| matey | <Broyal> sarkosi got drunk with putin <- but for some reason elon musk wont get high with him | Jun 05 02:01 |
| Broyal | putin doesnt do drugs | Jun 05 02:02 |
| Broyal | just vodka | Jun 05 02:02 |
| Broyal | wich isnt a drug | Jun 05 02:02 |
| matey | vodka isnt a drug if youre in russia | Jun 05 02:06 |
| matey | its safer to drink than tea | Jun 05 02:06 |
| matey | nooooooo, linus! http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/torvalds-2020.jpg | Jun 05 02:07 |
| matey | /me points to the ominous drink on the table | Jun 05 02:07 |
| MinceR | i'm pretty sure they can put additional poison on vodka too | Jun 05 02:08 |
| matey | they wouldnt! | Jun 05 02:08 |
| matey | is nothing sacred | Jun 05 02:08 |
| MinceR | to Ruscists? nothing except power | Jun 05 02:09 |
| matey | imagine if they put poison in the political power! | Jun 05 02:09 |
| MinceR | :> | Jun 05 02:09 |
| MinceR | maybe it's the "BUT your power is over humans" caveat | Jun 05 02:10 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=q4Ow69QWJmo | Jun 05 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | The pellet with the poison's - The court jester - Invidious | Jun 05 02:12 | |
| *psydruid goes to Сен Тропе | Jun 05 02:12 | |
| matey | that song is awesome | Jun 05 02:14 |
| matey | is that angela lansbury? | Jun 05 02:15 |
| psydruid | hmm | Jun 05 02:17 |
| psydruid | I was told that it was actually written by Serbian songwriters | Jun 05 02:18 |
| psydruid | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUsjEdsUZW8 | Jun 05 02:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=uUsjEdsUZW8 | Jun 05 02:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> inv.riverside.rocks | Dragan Kojic Keba - Ona to zna - GS 2012_2013 - 01.02.2013. EM 17 - (Tv Pink 2013) - Invidious | Jun 05 02:18 | |
| matey | maybe cousins? | Jun 05 02:18 |
| DaemonFC | I should have gotten the 25 foot 3.5mm cable instead of the 20 foot. | Jun 05 02:19 |
| psydruid | they are neighboring countries, of course | Jun 05 02:19 |
| DaemonFC | The 20 foot makes it but has to come down off the ceiling at an angle. | Jun 05 02:19 |
| psydruid | Angela Lansbury from Murder She Wrote? | Jun 05 02:20 |
| DaemonFC | I used command strips to bring the 3.5 mm cable from the laptop to the Bose using the wall and ceiling. | Jun 05 02:23 |
| matey | yeah | Jun 05 02:24 |
| MinceR | command and conquer strips | Jun 05 02:24 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=hIsmINWdkVQ | Jun 05 02:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "How'd You Like to Spoon With Me?" - Till The Clouds Roll By | Angela Lansbury (HD) - Invidious | Jun 05 02:24 | |
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| matey | <psydruid> they are neighboring countries, of course <- i like your version | Jun 05 02:37 |
| matey | its the horns that make it work obviously | Jun 05 02:38 |
| matey | without those theres no song | Jun 05 02:38 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=oOm_2dGzqp0 | Jun 05 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Shaka Zulu vs Julius Caesar. Epic Rap Battles of History - Invidious | Jun 05 02:39 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, June 04, 2022 | Jun 05 02:43 | |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-06-04.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-06-04.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Jun 05 02:47 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, as long as we aren't tripping over it and having to scoot it out of the way to vacuum the floor. | Jun 05 02:50 |
| DaemonFC | matey, I figure that if the cops complain about my stereo I can say "What about those Mexicans out there with the loudspeaker every weekend having a Quinceañera or something every week? You can hear them on Pluto.". | Jun 05 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | Might not work if I get the Mexican cop again. | Jun 05 02:56 |
| DaemonFC | "A girl turned 15. Let's shoot at a pinata!" | Jun 05 02:57 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Does Hungary have anything as ridiculous as that shit? | Jun 05 02:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▄▆▅▅▅▅▃▅▄▅▅▆▄▅▆▅▅▇▄▅▇▅▃▆▃█▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 30.03 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 4.73▕ swarm size (avg): 293.00 ⟲ | Jun 05 02:59 |
| MinceR | well, some of the local savages like yelling loudly on the street often, some of them like pointlessly loud vehicles, and of course the cultists like to make noise every few hours | Jun 05 03:00 |
| MinceR | not that i notice that that much in the concrete box i live for half the year in budapest as the neighbors like to drill for hours anyway | Jun 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | Drill as in having sex? | Jun 05 03:01 |
| MinceR | no | Jun 05 03:01 |
| MinceR | drill as in making holes in concrete | Jun 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | LMAO | Jun 05 03:01 |
| DaemonFC | What happens when they run out of concrete that needs holes drilled in it for some reason? | Jun 05 03:02 |
| MinceR | i suspect every wall in that "apartment" looks like swiss cheese by now | Jun 05 03:02 |
| MinceR | or they take cement to the "apartment" regularly and make more concrete just so they have something to drill | Jun 05 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | Also possible. | Jun 05 03:02 |
| MinceR | but none of the above would take more than an Exterminatus to fix anyway | Jun 05 03:02 |
| DaemonFC | You should ask them if it would not be more exonomical to just rent a cement mixer and get things in bulk instead. | Jun 05 03:03 |
| DaemonFC | *economical | Jun 05 03:03 |
| MinceR | i don't care, i just want them to die slowly and painfully | Jun 05 03:03 |
| matey | some of them like pointlessly loud vehicles <- this is what got me onto cookie monster dubstep | Jun 05 03:05 |
| MinceR | i wonder if humans in other countries feel like their life has no purpose if they're not at least inconveniencing someone else every second, or if it's just hungarians | Jun 05 03:05 |
| matey | when i was drunk and a bunch of idiots were going by with their 1.5M diameter speakers and their supercharged engines spooling up | Jun 05 03:05 |
| MinceR | but i guess i'll have to find that out anyway unless i want to live officially in the russian federation soon | Jun 05 03:05 |
| matey | the engines made me think "hey! these cars sound just like cookie monster" | Jun 05 03:06 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 30138 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 40955 • Active: active (running) since Fri 2022-05-27 10:17:06 BST; 1 weeks 1 days ago | Jun 05 03:06 |
| MinceR | did their license plates go "zz-zz-zz" to the beat of the bass? | Jun 05 03:06 |
| matey | OHH! ME SPOOLING!!! COOOOKIEEEEE! OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM! | Jun 05 03:06 |
| MinceR | if not, then they were doing it wrong | Jun 05 03:06 |
| matey | NOMMMM! NOMMMMM! NOOMMM!!! | Jun 05 03:06 |
| matey | i dont think as many people loosen the bolts on their license plates anymore | Jun 05 03:07 |
| matey | not when you can pay extra to simulate that with electronics | Jun 05 03:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 246 MB • TotalOut: 45 MB | Jun 05 03:07 |
| MinceR | no need to put effort into that, the noise takes care of it | Jun 05 03:07 |
| MinceR | if it's loud enough | Jun 05 03:07 |
| MinceR | they could dampen it if they wanted, but obviously audio quality doesn't matter in this case, only being obnoxiously and damagingly loud matters | Jun 05 03:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Jun 05 03:08 |
| matey | i dont understand how people can have these systems and drive around without hearing protection and still have enough hearing to use a phone | Jun 05 03:09 |
| MinceR | maybe it is also loud and they scream into the microphone | Jun 05 03:09 |
| matey | unless its like a hard light hologram that physically nudges their eardrums i dont know how a phone could even work after all that | Jun 05 03:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmVFioEbqLtsexYUL3WTkFycceXHEqBmqYYFgdBPjTGwm8 | Jun 05 03:10 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin has just been added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with the CID above. | Jun 05 03:10 |
| matey | maybe the people that put these systems in also soundproof the interior | Jun 05 03:11 |
| matey | but thats a good trick when you can see the windows are open | Jun 05 03:11 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> i don't care, i just want them to die slowly and painfully | Jun 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | No, no, you convince them to get the cement mixer and throw them in. | Jun 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | Make it look like an accident. | Jun 05 03:12 |
| DaemonFC | You don't need a license plate, insurance, or a driver's license in Illinois if you're an illegal immigrant. | Jun 05 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | It's still the law, but the judge is probably a Democrat that lets you go. | Jun 05 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | If he's not, the prosecutor might be. | Jun 05 03:26 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 05 06:30 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, June 04, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Jun 05 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Jun 05 06:42 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Jun 05 06:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Jun 05 06:42 | |
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| techrights-news | The June 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165637 | Jun 05 06:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The June 2022 Issue of the PCLinuxOS Magazine | Tux Machines | Jun 05 06:44 | |
| techrights-news | Dr. Stallman gave a talk in French some hours ago (video is work in progress), but here is a video uploaded a day earlier; it’s from Brazil and it was recorded about 20 years ago http://techrights.org/2022/06/04/richard-stallman-brazil/ | Jun 05 06:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Rare Interview With Richard Stallman (Uploaded Friday) | Techrights | Jun 05 06:45 | |
| techrights-news | PCLinuxOS Screenshot Showcase https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202206/page12.html | Jun 05 06:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 12 | Jun 05 06:47 | |
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| techrights-news | PCLinuxOS Repo Review: Video Editors https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202206/page09.html | Jun 05 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 9 | Jun 05 06:54 | |
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| schestowitz | https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202205/page12.html | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | First of all, I want to make it very clear that I am not in favor of war, under any circumstances. In the case of the Russia/Ukraine conflict, it is a situation that should be resolved between the two countries, without outside interference in any way. But, this is not what happened, and neither is it what is happening now. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Unfortunately, the technology companies are playing a very ambiguous and mean-spirited role in this conflict, on the one hand trying to appear to promote peace, but in fact stirring up hatred. In my view of what is happening, it is a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis, only in reverse, in simple lines. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 12 | Jun 05 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | But now we have, in all the technology and communications companies, censorship and repression of anything concerning the conflict other than the official NATO version, that the Russian president is a mad aggressor. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | today: | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202206/page05.html | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Last month, we ran an article from Agent Smith that caused a shiitake mushroom storm. Quite literally. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Agent Smith, a.k.a. Alessandro Ebersol, is a frequent contributor to The PCLinuxOS Magazine. He has stepped up to help produce exclusive content for The PCLinuxOS Magazine when virtually no one else would. He is passionate about battling the continuing and continued overreach of Big Tech. He is passionate about PCLinuxOS. He is passionate about gaming on PCLinuxOS. Living in Brazil, he sometimes has a different take on events than many of the other | Jun 05 07:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 5 | Jun 05 07:01 | |
| schestowitz | people who volunteer for The PCLinuxOS Magazine. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Out of the storm that developed from "that" article, it has become apparent that there are some significant misunderstandings or misconceptions about the magazine that need to be cleared up. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | That is the reason for this article. | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:01 |
| schestowitz | Also: | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Facebook allows hate messages against Russians | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | In times when users and experts are clamoring for more efficient content moderation on social networks, Meta Platforms has made a controversial decision. Last March, it decided to allow hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel on Facebook and Instagram. | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | YouTube censors Russia Today and Sputnik channels | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | Google has decided to censor the Kremlin-linked channels Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik. The tech giant will cut the reach of these publications in Europe during the Ukraine War, with the excuse of preventing the spread of fake news from the Kremlin. However, this decision, since most people nowadays inform themselves through YouTube or via Google News, creates mass disinformation and no chance for contradiction, which creates a spirit of Russian | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | phobia. Yes, the media is instilling hatred for the Russian people and everything related to Russia. | Jun 05 07:02 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 07:02 |
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| matey | hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel <- uhh | Jun 05 07:03 |
| matey | how the FUCK is that "hate speech" when its against officials? | Jun 05 07:03 |
| matey | oh, the coc is a joke, right | Jun 05 07:03 |
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| matey | no being anti-authority | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | happiness is mandatory | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | illegal wars are NICE | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | criticing war is "hate" | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | how far does this go? | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | dont make fun of mr hitler, you bigot | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | /me takes down all the downfall parodies | Jun 05 07:04 |
| matey | the terrorists won s/terrorists/fucking idiots/ | Jun 05 07:05 |
| matey | "hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel" | Jun 05 07:05 |
| matey | theres no such fucking thing | Jun 05 07:05 |
| techrights-news | Calling for DE-ESCALATION in Ukraine causes shitstorm. "Out of the storm that developed from "that" article, it has become apparent that there are some significant misunderstandings or misconceptions about the magazine that need to be cleared up."https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202206/page05.html this article https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202205/page12.html | Jun 05 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 5 | Jun 05 07:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - Page 12 | Jun 05 07:05 | |
| matey | even when its against actually underrepresented groups | Jun 05 07:06 |
| matey | the term "hate speech" is so inspecific to the point of uselessness that the supreme court of the united states cant be arsed with it | Jun 05 07:06 |
| matey | because of the first amendment | Jun 05 07:06 |
| matey | inciting violence? rules for that | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | threats? fraud? rules for that | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | defamation? tricky! but rules for that | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | "hate"-- what the fuck is that? | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | i hate illegal wars | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | free speech exists precisely so you can say that sort of thing | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | i hate corrupt officials | Jun 05 07:07 |
| matey | if you cant critciise the fucking government, free speech is TRULY broken | Jun 05 07:08 |
| techrights-news | "The past week has been fairly slow in additions of verified/playable games for the Steam Deck, following the previous 3100 games milestone. There are now more than 3200 games validated (3222 games to be precise at the time of publication) on the Steam Deck – in two categories..." https://boilingsteam.com/3200-games-steam-deck-verified/ | Jun 05 07:08 |
| matey | "hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel" | Jun 05 07:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | 3200 Games On The Steam Deck with Ender Lilies and Divinity Original Sin 2 as Verified - Boiling Steam | Jun 05 07:08 | |
| matey | WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT? | Jun 05 07:08 |
| matey | also fuck torvalds, zemlin and the entire linux fund... ation | Jun 05 07:09 |
| matey | if you dont want "hate speech" | Jun 05 07:09 |
| matey | heres an idea-- STOP FUCKING MURDERING PEOPLE | Jun 05 07:09 |
| matey | you cunts | Jun 05 07:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I don't read it like you | Jun 05 07:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I know the guy | Jun 05 07:10 |
| matey | you dont read anything properly | Jun 05 07:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he's a longtime techrights areader | Jun 05 07:10 |
| matey | i know him too | Jun 05 07:10 |
| matey | yeah i actually like him | Jun 05 07:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he just said doi not hate Russians in general | Jun 05 07:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like XRevan86 | Jun 05 07:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and like Lula, his former president, he thinks they need to pursue a peaceful end to it | Jun 05 07:11 |
| matey | i wasnt aware that xrevan86 was a "russian official" or "military personnel" | Jun 05 07:11 |
| matey | you must have read it in some way that missed that part | Jun 05 07:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: did he say hate towards russian officials should end? | Jun 05 07:11 |
| matey | even while quoting it | Jun 05 07:11 |
| matey | thats why i quoted it a few more times | Jun 05 07:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Yes, the media is instilling hatred for the Russian people and everything related to Russia" | Jun 05 07:12 |
| matey | i didnt comment on the parts that dont bother me | Jun 05 07:12 |
| matey | does that somehow cancel out the other thing he said? if so, why did he say "hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel" | Jun 05 07:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | checking for "hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel" | Jun 05 07:12 |
| matey | 06:02 <schestowitz> In times when users and experts are clamoring for more efficient content moderation on social networks, Meta Platforms has made a controversial decision. Last March, it decided to allow hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel on Facebook and Instagram. | Jun 05 07:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I see it now | Jun 05 07:13 |
| matey | 06:02 <schestowitz> In times when users and experts are clamoring for more efficient content moderation on social networks, Meta Platforms has made a controversial decision. Last March, it decided --> to allow hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel <-- on Facebook and Instagram. | Jun 05 07:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he talks aboyt FB policy is issuing death wishes or threats | Jun 05 07:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like "Assassinate this and that person" | Jun 05 07:14 |
| matey | so you cant hope that the people murdering people die first? | Jun 05 07:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so it is allowed against Russians | Jun 05 07:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but gets you in trouble if you say it against SU war criminalks | Jun 05 07:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | basically FB double standards | Jun 05 07:14 |
| matey | but gets you in trouble if you say it against SU war criminalks <- imo they should just make it ok to hope any war criminal dies | Jun 05 07:14 |
| matey | just like mincer hopes people making a public nuisance do | Jun 05 07:15 |
| matey | which everyone hopes (a little) sometimes, even if they (most) hardly mean it | Jun 05 07:15 |
| matey | mincer might actually mean it (though im not sure even of that) | Jun 05 07:15 |
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| matey | people in the highly-pc west seem oblivious to the fact that many cultures are far more casual about this | Jun 05 07:16 |
| techrights-news | This Week in Linux 200: Inkscape, NixOS, Linux Mint, PulseAudio, GNOME Shell on Mobile and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-200/ | Jun 05 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-200: Inkscape, NixOS, Linux Mint, PulseAudio, GNOME Shell on Mobile and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | Jun 05 07:16 | |
| matey | theres a funny song on youtube where a girl says her day is boring, and her friend decides to leave instead of listening to her moaning | Jun 05 07:17 |
| matey | so her friend says "fine, go and die" | Jun 05 07:17 |
| matey | no one in their right mind would think she actually meant it | Jun 05 07:17 |
| matey | but moderators want zero-tolerance policies for robots | Jun 05 07:17 |
| matey | zero tolerance policies are one of the dumbest things humanity ever came up with | Jun 05 07:18 |
| matey | they simply do not work | Jun 05 07:18 |
| techrights-news | John Goerzen: Visiting Germany: Reflections on Schloss Charlottenburg https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10375-visiting-germany-reflections-on-schloss-charlottenburg http://schestowitz.com/royrianne/gallery/index.php/Berlin-in-Winter/West-Side/20181218_134642 | Jun 05 07:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-changelog.complete.org | Visiting Germany: Reflections on Schloss Charlottenburg | The Changelog | Jun 05 07:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | 20181218 134642 | Jun 05 07:18 | |
| matey | they might as well be called excess stupidity policies | Jun 05 07:18 |
| matey | "our excess stupidity policy forbids this" | Jun 05 07:18 |
| matey | "but all i said was 'hi everyone im from memphis' | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "well you cant say that here | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "memphis?" | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "i fucking live there" | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "i bet i cant say that either" | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "no, you can say fucking, you just cant say memphis" | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "hey, now you said it" | Jun 05 07:19 |
| matey | "right, and im issuing a ban to myself right now" | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | iirc, twitter banned people for that word | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and just that word | Jun 05 07:20 |
| matey | thats why its funny | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | was there some riot planned there? | Jun 05 07:20 |
| matey | where you are you from? | Jun 05 07:20 |
| matey | memphis | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | banned | Jun 05 07:20 |
| matey | "look, just because i say 'jehovah'" | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | twitter lost a lot of useds | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | lots | Jun 05 07:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: you can WRITE it | Jun 05 07:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but don't READ it | Jun 05 07:21 |
| matey | /me covers the screen while typing | Jun 05 07:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | a lightening strike would hit you | Jun 05 07:21 |
| matey | write-only tweeting | Jun 05 07:21 |
| matey | makes you wonder how the jehovahs witnesses survive | Jun 05 07:22 |
| matey | they say jehovah a lot | Jun 05 07:22 |
| matey | maybe they got a permission slip? | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | twitter does not let you read either | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it pushes you to read angst | Jun 05 07:22 |
| matey | or maybe its fine as long as you add the s | Jun 05 07:22 |
| matey | "jehovahs" | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | celebs, controversy | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not people you actually used to "follow" | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | twitter is a "burning platform" | Jun 05 07:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | even musk was never truly interested in it | Jun 05 07:22 |
| matey | its not licked yet | Jun 05 07:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | pumped and dumped it | Jun 05 07:23 |
| matey | pumped and dumped it <- i find that sexist and misogynist and blah blah blah | Jun 05 07:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/wiki/Twitter | Jun 05 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter - Techrights | Jun 05 07:23 | |
| matey | tweetist! | Jun 05 07:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents | Jun 05 07:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights | Jun 05 07:23 | |
| matey | i dont know what tweetist means but it sounds bad and i bet what you said is tweetist | Jun 05 07:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "she was such a xxxxx person. she wrote such xxxx TWEETS..." | Jun 05 07:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "he was a xxxx politicans. He has XXXX FOLLOWERS in Twitter" | Jun 05 07:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | those platforms are the "metaverse" | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | a fake society | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | with fake friends | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and a fake circle | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and then they go offline | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or you take the mask/headset off | Jun 05 07:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | [12:06] <schestowitz-TR> "I used to be hung up on post counts, for some reason. On my ten year sludge through Twitter (2009-2019 (years lost forever)), | Jun 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | [12:06] <schestowitz-TR> I used to get worked up and enthusiastic about that I had 75K Tweets. It was a testament to how much time I wasted there, but i | Jun 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | [12:06] <schestowitz-TR> t was 75K of SOMETHING I had "done". Ridiculous thing to care about." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/992 | Jun 05 07:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | [12:06] <schestowitz-TR> It was a testament to how much time I wasted there" -----> I posted 951k | Jun 05 07:26 |
| techrights-news | Markdown and Gemtext gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220604_markdown_gemtext | Jun 05 07:27 |
| techrights-news | Unifont 14.0.04 Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165638 | Jun 05 07:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Unifont 14.0.04 Released | Tux Machines | Jun 05 07:28 | |
| techrights-news | FEX 2206 Tagged! https://fex-emu.org/FEX-2206/ | Jun 05 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fex-emu.org | FEX 2206 Tagged! – FEX-Emu – A fast linux usermode x86 and x86-64 emulator | Jun 05 07:38 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165639 | Jun 05 07:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 05 07:42 | |
| *TEMP0 (~KiKi@maai43v9gd28u.irc) has joined #techrights | Jun 05 07:45 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hi TEMP0, new nickname? | Jun 05 07:46 |
| matey | i hope they dont have oil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemune | Jun 05 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Kemune - Wikipedia | Jun 05 07:46 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Psychonauts 2, 3200 Games on Steam Deck, FEX 2206 Tagged • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165640 | Jun 05 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Psychonauts 2, 3200 Games on Steam Deck, FEX 2206 Tagged | Tux Machines | Jun 05 07:46 | |
| matey | new labour is trying very hard to relive its past while pretending its the future | Jun 05 07:46 |
| matey | we dont want them phoning ellon and asking if george can come out to play | Jun 05 07:47 |
| matey | ellen | Jun 05 07:47 |
| matey | i think i just created a talk show host billionaire nutjob hybrid | Jun 05 07:48 |
| TEMP0 | cant change nick | Jun 05 07:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I see... | Jun 05 07:48 |
| matey | just what we need, self-dancing cars | Jun 05 07:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I still cannopt believe they push face rce everywhehere | Jun 05 07:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and "self-driving" or autonomous cars | Jun 05 07:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | those would work IF | Jun 05 07:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you are in a controlled environment like a warehouse | Jun 05 07:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and even then you might want a human operator/supervisor | Jun 05 07:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in case exceptions occur and context is needed | Jun 05 07:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like if there's a leak or a shelf collapses | Jun 05 07:49 |
| matey | i think the solution is pretty obvious | Jun 05 07:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | who ever said we needed voting machines? | Jun 05 07:50 |
| matey | attach a flying reindeer to the front of each one to guide it | Jun 05 07:50 |
| matey | problem solved | Jun 05 07:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | even a reindeer would be an improvment | Jun 05 07:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they have survival instincts | Jun 05 07:51 |
| techrights-news | PCLinuxOS Articlea of Interest • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165641 | Jun 05 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | PCLinuxOS Articlea of Interest | Tux Machines | Jun 05 07:51 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | oops, typo | Jun 05 07:51 |
| matey | not if the reindeer is working without a script | Jun 05 07:52 |
| matey | and i think thats most reindeer | Jun 05 07:52 |
| matey | even mr ed worked without a script, they just gave him peanut butter and told him to ad lib | Jun 05 07:52 |
| matey | you can lead a horse to writing but you cant make him read | Jun 05 07:53 |
| matey | jim henson had a few ideas but they banned him from the set | Jun 05 07:54 |
| schestowitz | https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200609/page02.html | Jun 05 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - HTML | Jun 05 07:55 | |
| schestowitz | troll: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=PwrHXiPZT3Y | Jun 05 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Richard Stallman Death, Richard Stallman has passed away, Richard Stallman has died - Invidious | Jun 05 07:56 | |
| schestowitz | "For the news posts/links: I have many feeds in Akregator and many, many bookmarks. I try to hit the bookmarks at least once a day and refresh the feeds several times a day. I check some web search engines a couple of times a day as well. Basically, it's a lot of virtual leg-work." | Jun 05 07:57 |
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| techrights-news | Old: "Why is Vista still flawed and why is it taking so long to bring to fruition? The Vista concept (Longhorn) came about before Windows XP was released and is (if I'm not mistaken) based on the NT kernel like Windows 2000 and XP." https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200609/page03.html | Jun 05 08:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pclosmag.com | PCLinuxOS Magazine - HTML | Jun 05 08:08 | |
| techrights-news | http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/software-patents-perish/ | Jun 05 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 05/06/2022: Unifont 14.0.04, More Software Patents Perish | Techrights | Jun 05 08:22 | |
| techrights-news | 11 Best Free and Open Source Audio Analyzers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165642 | Jun 05 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 11 Best Free and Open Source Audio Analyzers | Tux Machines | Jun 05 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | Shows: This Week in Linux and Wayland Rant • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165643 | Jun 05 08:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shows: This Week in Linux and Wayland Rant | Tux Machines | Jun 05 08:24 | |
| techrights-news | Links 05/06/2022: Unifont 14.0.04, More Software Patents Perish | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/software-patents-perish/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/software-patents-perish/ | Jun 05 08:27 |
| techrights-news | The Register has unveiled their "cynic's guide to desktop Linux," which they ultimately concede is a snarky yet affectionate list of "the least bad distros." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165451#comment-33882 | Jun 05 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The cynic's guide to desktop Linux | Tux Machines | Jun 05 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 04, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/irc-log-040622/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/irc-log-040622/ | Jun 05 08:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, June 04, 2022 | Techrights | Jun 05 08:38 | |
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| techrights-news | IBM: please test our kernels, see if that breaks https://fedoramagazine.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-37-test-week-for-kernel-5-18/ | Jun 05 09:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | Contribute at the Fedora Linux 37 Test Week for Kernel 5.18 - Fedora Magazine | Jun 05 09:11 | |
| *psydruid wonders if anyone still reports any bugs for Fedora at all | Jun 05 09:13 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ibm reports it to ibm | Jun 05 09:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | their staff to other staff | Jun 05 09:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in the open | Jun 05 09:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the "open org" | Jun 05 09:28 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 05 09:30 |
| techrights-news | Cheetah a Day — Day 606: yaaaaaaaaaawn gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D606.jpg | Jun 05 09:30 |
| techrights-news | "I started my new job on Wednesday June 1st. That was absolutely delightful in every way; this tale is about what happened afterwards." gemini://warmedal.se/~bjorn/posts/2022-06-05-the-tale-of-the-wednesday-ordeal.gmi | Jun 05 09:31 |
| techrights-news | ANN: bombadillo fork with spartan: "Just thought you guys would like to know that I have forked the bombadillo terminal browser to incorporate the spartan protocol. Uploads are not yet supported." gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-05-ann-bombo-fork.gmi | Jun 05 09:32 |
| techrights-news | A conditionally transforming combinato gemini://idiomdrottning.org/conditional-transformation | Jun 05 09:33 |
| techrights-news | FALSE: "It’s wild how the Bush family has basically no power now" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Jun 05 09:39 |
| techrights-news | "But I didn’t like the fact that they just gave you a random payphone, so I started perusing Ebay." ☛ https://bert.org/2022/06/02/payphone/ | Source: Bertrand Fan | Jun 05 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bert.org | Installing a payphone in my house | bertrand fan | Jun 05 10:42 | |
| techrights-news | "About a decade ago, things started to change." ☛ https://blog.iconfactory.com/2022/06/worldwideweb-part-2/ | | Jun 05 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.iconfactory.com | WorldWideWeb, Part II • The Breakroom | Jun 05 10:42 | |
| techrights-news | "The Internet lost a hero this week. Ned Freed and I were in our early thirties when we met." ☛ http://theviewfromguppylake.blogspot.com/2022/05/remembering-ned-freed-1959-2022.html | | Jun 05 10:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ http://theviewfromguppylake.blogspot.com/2022/05/remembering-ned-freed-1959-2022.html ) | Jun 05 10:43 | |
| techrights-news | 'Casual' Surveillance: "The commissioner's report, which was published Wednesday morning, states that Tim Hortons collected granular location data" ☛ https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tim-hortons-app-report-1.6473584 | Source: CBC | Jun 05 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbc.ca | Tim Hortons app tracked too much personal information without adequate consent, investigation finds | CBC News | Jun 05 10:43 | |
| psydruid | https://www.linux.org/threads/this-is-not-good-for-linux-below-the-os-security-from-intel.40498/ | Jun 05 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.linux.org/threads/this-is-not-good-for-linux-below-the-os-security-from-intel.40498/ ) | Jun 05 10:43 | |
| techrights-news | "Seeed Studio is offering a STM32 based LoRa CAN with support for CAN 2.0 (up to 1Mb/s) and CAN-FD (up to 5Mb/s) protocols" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/seeedstudio-lora-e5-can-dev-board-goes-on-pre-order-for-39-90/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jun 05 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/seeedstudio-lora-e5-can-dev-board-goes-on-pre-order-for-39-90/ ) | Jun 05 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | "Ronetix has recently released a large System on Module portfolio based on NXP processors" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/ronetix-i-mx8m-based-compact-soms-solutions/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Jun 05 10:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/ronetix-i-mx8m-based-compact-soms-solutions/ ) | Jun 05 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | "Wine is the compatibility layer that allows you to run games and applications developed for Windows - on Linux (plus also macOS and BSD)." ☛ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165623#comment-33884 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/wine-710-rolls-out-with-56-bug-fixes/ | Source: GamingOnLinux | Jun 05 10:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Wine development release 7.10 is now available. | Tux Machines | Jun 05 10:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wine 7.10 rolls out with 56 bug fixes | GamingOnLinux | Jun 05 10:45 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: I presume the sound bar was running undocumented linux http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-030622.html#tJun%2003%2000:29:17 | Jun 05 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, June 03, 2022 | Jun 05 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | iophk: those warnings came in the 1990s, but the community stopped fighting it by 2010 and thereby ceded the net gemini://midnight.pub/posts/994 | Jun 05 10:46 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21671-3-4-million-pirates-in-the-nordics-mediavision.html | Jun 05 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/21671-3-4-million-pirates-in-the-nordics-mediavision.html ) | Jun 05 10:46 | |
| schestowitz | # disinfo being propagated | Jun 05 10:46 |
| techrights-news | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Matrix ⚓ https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-matrix ䷉ Source: smbc-comics | Jun 05 10:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - The Matrix | Jun 05 10:46 | |
| techrights-news | slackware https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-uk%27s-future-4175709628/page2.html | Jun 05 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/slackware-uk%27s-future-4175709628/page2.html ) | Jun 05 10:47 | |
| techrights-news | "Alma Linux OS is a free and open source Linux distribution which is built on from RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux) source code." ☛ https://www.linuxbuzz.com/how-to-install-almalinux-9-step-by-step/ | | Jun 05 10:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxbuzz.com | How to Install AlmaLinux 9 Step-by-Step with screenshots | Jun 05 10:47 | |
| techrights-news | "Dozens of pirate IPTV suppliers and illegal streaming sites may be facing anti-piracy disruption in the weeks and months ahead." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/dozens-of-pirate-iptv-streaming-sites-face-potential-ace-mpa-disruption-220604/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jun 05 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dozens of Pirate IPTV & Streaming Sites Face Potential ACE/MPA Disruption * TorrentFreak | Jun 05 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | "Reddit has warned the U.S. Copyright Office that upload filters would harm free expression and creativity." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/reddit-warns-u-s-that-upload-filters-threaten-free-expression-and-creativity-220604/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Jun 05 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reddit Warns U.S. That Upload Filters Threaten Free Expression and Creativity * TorrentFreak | Jun 05 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | Patents kill ☛ https://fair.org/home/media-fail-to-raise-alarm-over-deadly-lack-of-booster-shots-in-elderly/ | Source: FAIR | Jun 05 10:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fair.org | Media Fail to Raise Alarm Over Deadly Lack of Booster Shots in Elderly - FAIR | Jun 05 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | "TFT technology might be ancient news for monitors and TVs, but it’s alive and well when it comes to hobbyist electronics and embedded devices." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/04/universal-tft-display-backpack-helps-small-displays-shine/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 05 10:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Universal TFT Display Backpack Helps Small Displays Shine | Hackaday | Jun 05 10:52 | |
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| techrights-news | "[Robo] over at Tiny Transistor Labs has a fascinating look at what’s inside these modern, ultra low-power devices that consume absolutely minuscule amounts of current." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/04/gaze-inside-these-nanopower-op-amps/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 05 10:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gaze Inside These Nanopower Op-Amps | Hackaday | Jun 05 10:54 | |
| techrights-news | DIY Keyboard ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/04/diy-keyboard-cant-get-much-smaller/ | Source: Hackaday | Jun 05 10:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-DIY Keyboard Can’t Get Much Smaller | Hackaday | Jun 05 10:56 | |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/money-report/heres-the-email-elon-musk-sent-all-tesla-employees-about-10-headcount-reduction/2849069/ | Jun 05 11:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcchicago.com | Here’s the Email Elon Musk Sent All Tesla Employees About 10% Headcount Reduction – NBC Chicago | Jun 05 11:00 | |
| DaemonFC | Failing company. | Jun 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yes, I mentioned thios | Jun 05 11:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and said the same | Jun 05 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | " Tesla is cutting 10% of salaried employees CEO Elon Musk wrote in an e-mail to all employees there on Friday. | Jun 05 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | Tesla shares dropped 8% on news of the headcount reduction at Tesla. | Jun 05 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | On Friday, President Joe Biden was asked about Elon Musk's negative economic outlook and said Tesla may be cutting back but Ford and others were ramping up." | Jun 05 11:00 |
| DaemonFC | I mentioned that Tesla is blaming the economy, but GM and Ford were adding jobs. | Jun 05 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | Ford is on a hiring binge, even in Illinois, which is infamously bad for business, although nowhere near as bad as California. | Jun 05 11:01 |
| schestowitz | [08:50] <techrights-news> Tesla is failing ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/03/lots-luck-his-trip-moon-biden-says-musks-job-cuts-tesla | Source: Common Dreams | Jun 05 11:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Lots of Luck on His Trip to the Moon,' Biden Says of Musk's Job Cuts at Tesla | Jun 05 11:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Musk picked the second worst business environment in the company and put his main factory there. California. LOL | Jun 05 11:01 |
| DaemonFC | The only place he could have opened that has more job killing government policies in New Jersey. | Jun 05 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | *country | Jun 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | [23:23] <techrights-news> Tesla will fail and will lose money because "real" car companies make EVs and they don't cost a leg https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/ford-announces-%243.7-billion-in-midwest-ev-plants | Jun 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | those are weekend links | Jun 05 11:02 |
| DaemonFC | Why in God's name would you put a factory in California? | Jun 05 11:02 |
| schestowitz | tesla is a joke | Jun 05 11:03 |
| DaemonFC | They don't want jobs. They were trying to shut down the sriracha sauce guy because a few people complained that they could smell it. They were trying to chase over 700 jobs out. | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | losing money for many years | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | overstaffed | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | 110000 (soon less) workers | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | to makes less than a million cars | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | do the economics | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | musk paints dissenting staff as terrorists | Jun 05 11:03 |
| schestowitz | so that media will ignore them | Jun 05 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | A million a year? | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | while he wants to buy twitter | Jun 05 11:04 |
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| schestowitz | no | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | not a million a year | Jun 05 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | a million all in all | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | those do not exist here | Jun 05 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | Even a million a year, <10 cars per worker per year is pretty bad. | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | i saw a tesla here twice | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | i think ikt was the same one | Jun 05 11:04 |
| schestowitz | i.e. one car | Jun 05 11:04 |
| DaemonFC | All the real car companies do better than 9-10 cars a year per worker in their headcount. | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | maybe the californians see it as symbol status | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | status sym,bol | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | tesla is one b ig fake | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | fake valuation | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | musk should pay to say he is the FLOUNDER | Jun 05 11:05 |
| schestowitz | not founder | Jun 05 11:05 |
| DaemonFC | "Biden said that while Elon Musk is talking about economic fears and reductions, Ford is increasing their investment in building new electric vehicles, with 6,000 new, union employees in the midwest." | Jun 05 11:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | musks says | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | bill says | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | trump says | Jun 05 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, Musk said he'd let his employees vote to unionize and he'd get out of the way and wouldn't try to harass them. That would be out of character. | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | there is journalism for you | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | i saw some musk says pieces last nigt | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | refused to even link to themma | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | appeal to fake authority | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | scams and frauds | Jun 05 11:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and perverts, too | Jun 05 11:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, The most cringeworthy line in Star Trek: Enterprise is when Cmdr. Tucker names all of the great inventors and put Elon Musk in the same sentence as Zefram Cochrane (the man who invented warp drive in the Star Trek timeline.....). | Jun 05 11:08 |
| DaemonFC | I heard it and was like "LOL!". | Jun 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | biden seems to misundeerstand his role | Jun 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like he's a face for wallstreet and oligarchs | Jun 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | instead of helping to defne voters | Jun 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | frrom wallsteert gred and oligarchs | Jun 05 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | The Cult of Musk. | Jun 05 11:09 |
| DaemonFC | Shows you the writers had no idea what the guy really was. | Jun 05 11:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | paid plugs | Jun 05 11:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | gates did the same | Jun 05 11:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they use similar tactics | Jun 05 11:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | myth-making | Jun 05 11:10 |
| techrights-news | Tails 5.1 Anonymous-OS Improves the Tor Connection Assistant, Fix Clock, Updates to Tor 0.4.7.7 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165644 | Jun 05 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | Worst line in Star Trek history. | Jun 05 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | At least the line the UK censored about Northern Ireland throwing them out was a possibility. | Jun 05 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | The idea of Musk being hailed as a great inventor in the 22nd century is laughable. | Jun 05 11:13 |
| DaemonFC | The military having to occupy its own country and facing an insurgency, like Iraq. | Jun 05 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | And then they think censoring a TV show is going to fix their problems. | Jun 05 11:15 |
| techrights-news | Readjusting for the Coming Decade | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/techrights-vs-misconceptions/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/techrights-vs-misconceptions/ | Jun 05 11:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | mmusk is a very fake person | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | inauthentic like gates | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | outwards, he fakes his appearanced | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | lots of butchering, hair plugs etc but that's nopt what matteers | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he compoosed a fake list of achievements | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | while gates pretends to be expert in everything | Jun 05 11:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | by bribing the media to give this impression | Jun 05 11:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they are both con men | Jun 05 11:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and worse, criminals | Jun 05 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | He has people brief him on what to say and then pays "news" outlets to not go off the script. | Jun 05 11:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | though musk's crimes are less severe | Jun 05 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | So, like, you could do that with me and make me look like a nuclear power expert. | Jun 05 11:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like plundering accounts | Jun 05 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | Or a vaccine expert. | Jun 05 11:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | shareholder yes | Jun 05 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Then people would go like "Okay, this guy has it all figured out. He should be running this!". | Jun 05 11:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | who is taught to memorise lines | Jun 05 11:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and use thbe media for stock manipulation | Jun 05 11:19 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, One state has passed a homeless criminalization bill comparable to Boris Johnson's. | Jun 05 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | Tennessee. It goes into effect next month and makes rough sleeping a felony. | Jun 05 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the state can't afford to give them housing, but it can afford $300,000 to put one of them in prison for 6 years? | Jun 05 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | Very interesting. | Jun 05 11:34 |
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| DaemonFC | "People have been complaining about all the homeless, which is getting to be a bigger problem, you know." | Jun 05 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Lots of victims of the "booming economy" that's "favorable to workers". Great Resignation. | Jun 05 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | The Republicans want to put them in prison. The Democrats send the cops out to trash their stuff and beat them up. | Jun 05 11:38 |
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| DaemonFC | https://wgntv.com/news/complaint-mcdonalds-knowingly-served-muslim-family-bacon/ | Jun 05 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | Bacon on a filet-o-fish sounds pretty good come to think of it. | Jun 05 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | I might play around with that. | Jun 05 11:55 |
| DaemonFC | "Filet-o-Fish...no tartar sauce...add big mac sauce....add four slices bacon...add pickle, lettuce and tomato." | Jun 05 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | big mac sauce might make a decent fish sandwich topping. | Jun 05 11:56 |
| DaemonFC | It's mostly thousand island dressing and pickle relish. | Jun 05 11:56 |
| techrights-news | This article is insane!! What has she been smoking? https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2022/06/01/149339/id=149339/ | Jun 05 12:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <DaemonFC> Tennessee. It goes into effect next month and makes rough sleeping a felony. | Jun 05 12:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | url? | Jun 05 12:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | rough sleeping is not a felony here | Jun 05 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | Under the "policing bill" it will be. | Jun 05 12:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | url? | Jun 05 12:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101434831/public-camping-felony-tennessee-homeless-seek-refuge | Jun 05 12:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | uk? | Jun 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | public camping is tents | Jun 05 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | Not necessarily. | Jun 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like squatters in ph | Jun 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they get vacated | Jun 05 12:28 |
| DaemonFC | The way the bill is written, sleeping on the ground somewhere is a felony even without a tent. | Jun 05 12:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | us has tent cities | Jun 05 12:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 05 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, the Tennessee bill could have been construed as making a felon of anyone who falls asleep in a public park. | Jun 05 12:30 |
| DaemonFC | So the cops have to give you 24 hours warning and then they can arrest you if they come back the next day and you're still there. | Jun 05 12:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sounds like nothing new | Jun 05 12:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but it is not rouugh sleeping | Jun 05 12:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's camping in inadequate places | Jun 05 12:33 |
| XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/06/05/kyiv-shelled-first-time-since-late-april-news "Kyiv shelled first time since late April" | Jun 05 12:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | there is a lot to be criticised about our regime | Jun 05 12:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and anti-protect provisions | Jun 05 12:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | anti-mass gathering | Jun 05 12:34 |
| XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/05/a77894 | Jun 05 12:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but if someone has no home, that does not mean he or she can slep in my garden | Jun 05 12:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | XRevan86: at first I read that as kyiv shelling russia | Jun 05 12:35 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe that too wiill happen at some stage | Jun 05 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | "Regional Governor Gaiday: Russians Have Lost Ground in Sieverodonetsk" | Jun 05 12:35 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | gay-daY | Jun 05 12:35 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | putin will try to kill him | Jun 05 12:35 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Russia is already shelled, Bielgorod region and such. | Jun 05 12:36 |
| XRevan86 | It's not very significant, a lot of cases can be written off as stray missiles, and even friendly fire. | Jun 05 12:36 |
| XRevan86 | "gay-daY" <- Can also be spelt "Haidai". | Jun 05 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/5/7350643/ | Jun 05 12:38 |
| XRevan86 | Case and point: "Haidai: Armed Forces of Ukraine control half of Sieverodonetsk" | Jun 05 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | Same news, different spelling. | Jun 05 12:39 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hayfeever | Jun 05 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | In both cases the consonant is voiced :) | Jun 05 12:39 |
| XRevan86 | Is the title fetcher on holiday? | Jun 05 12:40 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | anyway, sorry to get off topic | Jun 05 12:40 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hayfever or gay day, it does not mean anything in that language anyway | Jun 05 12:40 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but anyway, ukraine war is not on topic here unless it has a tech aspect like censorship on the Net | Jun 05 12:41 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | Putin isolated Russia just to make a point | Jun 05 12:41 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Even China distances itself a bit | Jun 05 12:42 |
| XRevan86 | Don't know about Gay Day, I only know about Two Minutes Hate. Which is the opposite emotion and a longer timespan. | Jun 05 12:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like removing russia staff from huawei | Jun 05 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz_TR2> it's camping in inadequate places | Jun 05 12:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DaemonFC: rise in homelessness, DaemonFC | Jun 05 12:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in TN | Jun 05 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think the US Supreme Court ordered California to stop enforcing their anti-homeless laws unless they would provide suitable housing. | Jun 05 12:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so they try not to tackle poverty | Jun 05 12:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but to make more laws to make the symptons go away | Jun 05 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't, though. | Jun 05 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | It just puts them someplace else where it costs more than helping them would. | Jun 05 12:43 |
| DaemonFC | Are there no prisons, no workhouses!? | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not sure about ireland, which psydruid saw | Jun 05 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Ignore the moans, it's only gas. | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but in recent years I see fewer homeless | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | than say 5 years ago | Jun 05 12:44 |
| psydruid | is there #techrights-ru now? | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe Manchester had some programmes for them | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or maybe they die from OD | Jun 05 12:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | psydruid: nothing prevents that from rxisting | Jun 05 12:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but few people here are from russia | Jun 05 12:45 |
| psydruid | I think that would be a good place for posting articles about the war in Ukraine | Jun 05 12:45 |
| psydruid | or #techpol or some other channel | Jun 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and it's sad that techpol was occupied by an apologist of puitler and nazi germany | Jun 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yes, techpol is in limbo | Jun 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | activelow might even be back | Jun 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | seems he did not kick people | Jun 05 12:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he just de-registered | Jun 05 12:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and as channel founder, ergoirc issued channel deprecation after thatr | Jun 05 12:47 |
| techrights-news | Unified Patent Court (UPC) Noise: Loaded Headlines, Straw Man Arguments, and False Predictions as a Lobbying/Sales Strategy | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-straw-man-arguments/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-straw-man-arguments/ | Jun 05 12:49 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.cnet.com/reviews/bose-wave-pc-review/ | Jun 05 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Bose also had some 30 pin and lightning docks that cost a small fortune. | Jun 05 13:01 |
| DaemonFC | Won't stand the test of time any better than the Wave/PC, which needed a serial port and Windows XP software. | Jun 05 13:01 |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Unified Patent Court (UPC) Always Started “Next Year” | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-false-predictions/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-false-predictions/ | Jun 05 13:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, That damned thing cost $728 in adjusted dollars. | Jun 05 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | ($449 in 2001) | Jun 05 13:04 |
| DaemonFC | I picked up my refurb Wave IV for $278, which would be $168 in 2001. | Jun 05 13:05 |
| DaemonFC | So the prices have actually fallen a lot, and we're back to the 3.5 mm jack which survived since the 1960s when all of this fad stuff like iPod docks went into the trash. | Jun 05 13:06 |
| MinceR | https://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/funny-pictures-5-30-22-21.jpg | Jun 05 13:08 |
| XRevan86 | matey: "how the FUCK is that "hate speech" when its against officials?" <- There were several instances when people got incarcerated for instilling hatred for a social group that is government officials. | Jun 05 13:28 |
| XRevan86 | "if you cant critciise the fucking government, free speech is TRULY broken" <- In Russia it is, and they're not even hiding it, it's a feature now. | Jun 05 13:29 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533213316184690689 | Jun 05 13:32 |
| XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/JuliaDavisNews/status/1533303672930717697 | Jun 05 13:32 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The PCLinuxOS writer that talks about social media shutting down his pro-war position would have been fined or jailed for an open and vocal anti-war position in Russia. | Jun 05 13:33 |
| MinceR | he should just BFG putin | Jun 05 13:34 |
| XRevan86 | "if so, why did he say "hate speech against Russian officials and military personnel"" <- Because that's what Facebook allowed, nothing more, nothing less. | Jun 05 13:34 |
| MinceR | wait, that's Makron, not Macron. | Jun 05 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | Quake? | Jun 05 13:35 |
| MinceR | Quake II | Jun 05 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | Quake 4 at least turned out better than Doom 3. | Jun 05 13:36 |
| XRevan86 | They did that because *a lot* of people started violating the Hate Speech policy, so they made an exception to avoid banning all Ukrainians. | Jun 05 13:36 |
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| SomeH4x0r | hi | Jun 05 13:36 |
| XRevan86 | It's a big talking point of Russia (and Meta was deemed an extremist organisation in Russia), so I'm not surprised it has so much focus from people like that. | Jun 05 13:37 |
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| sergay | https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/05/Build%20Open%20Silicon%20with%20Google.html give us your ideas will take it from here | Jun 05 13:47 |
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| sergay | ^>.<^ | Jun 05 13:49 |
| psydruid | https://bits-chips.nl/artikel/ask-the-headhunter-29/ | Jun 05 13:49 |
| psydruid | and screw you in the process of getting there | Jun 05 13:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sergay: yes, this is how they think | Jun 05 13:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like Fedora "community" | Jun 05 13:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "report bugs to us, then we'll sel you RHEL" | Jun 05 13:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | geeks as slaves | Jun 05 13:54 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and then tthey tell us the word "master" is too offensive | Jun 05 13:54 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | because it describes what they are to us | Jun 05 13:54 |
| MinceR | https://www.oglaf.com/carp/ | Jun 05 13:58 |
| techrights-news | "One of the biggest things I've noticed since spending more time on the small web is the sheer lack of boundaries many people have on social media. Spending more time on here and other obscure sites has really put a lot of things in perspective for me." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/996 | Jun 05 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | I think CDs are still big in Japan. | Jun 05 13:59 |
| techrights-news | "Heya! I'm officially releasing an alpha build of a little application I've been writing called rpgsheet. It still needs work, but it's usable now so I'm going ahead and sharing it!" gemini://skylarhill.me/posts/rpgsheet-release.gmi | Jun 05 13:59 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the new ones I see popping up that are any good say they were produced there. | Jun 05 13:59 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe existing cd drives arer still made thee | Jun 05 14:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | toshiba and sduch | Jun 05 14:05 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | beeen readins som forums | Jun 05 15:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | seems like hdmi is dumber than i expected | Jun 05 15:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it 'steal's sound | Jun 05 15:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not just off the deviced | Jun 05 15:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but also from the headphones/jack | Jun 05 15:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so if you insert hdmi for picture only | Jun 05 15:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it won't accept sound over the jack | Jun 05 15:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it might be ok if you use vga | Jun 05 15:29 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | there is nothing in the monitor's settings to bypass this | Jun 05 15:30 |
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| MinceR | depends on software | Jun 05 15:43 |
| MinceR | i use HDMI a lot and most of the time play audio via other devices | Jun 05 15:44 |
| MinceR | the only time i remember getting sound via HDMI was when i tried out RISC OS on a rpi | Jun 05 15:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ssorry i did not explain well | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | \the issue is when you want to use the speakers on the monitor | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and not over hdmi | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | evenn when hdmi is cnnected | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | i have just tested this with rianne's machine and a different monitors | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | same oioutcome | Jun 05 15:46 |
| MinceR | speakers built into the monitor? | Jun 05 15:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yes | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | very common | Jun 05 15:47 |
| MinceR | i see | Jun 05 15:47 |
| MinceR | i usually avoid using those, as they tend to be low quality | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for some compliance or ceritificatipn | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not good speakers | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | i want headphones and out to play at the same time | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | pulseaudio does not make it possible | Jun 05 15:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | did not checj JACK | Jun 05 15:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but multiplexer(physical) makes it possible | Jun 05 15:48 |
| techrights-news | European Software Patents Cannot Withstand Scrutiny, EPO Management Wants Kangaroo Courts (UPC) to Change That | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/kangaroo-courts-swpats/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/kangaroo-courts-swpats/ | Jun 05 15:52 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> there is nothing in the monitor's settings to bypass this <- why would it be a monitor setting? | Jun 05 15:56 |
| matey | monitor doesnt usually change the resolution either (xrandr) | Jun 05 15:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | because: | Jun 05 15:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 1)t they have the same for visual input | Jun 05 15:56 |
| matey | nope | Jun 05 15:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | (vga/dvi/hdmi | Jun 05 15:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 2) it would be useful to some people or use cases | Jun 05 15:57 |
| matey | well yeah, because you can have two live inputs going to the monitor | Jun 05 15:57 |
| matey | so it needs to select which one it shows | Jun 05 15:57 |
| matey | like ive connected dvi and vga to the same monitor | Jun 05 15:57 |
| matey | if you turn one off, it switches automatically | Jun 05 15:58 |
| matey | but if both are on, how would it know unless its a monitor setting | Jun 05 15:58 |
| matey | it would be useful to some people or use cases <- it could also make cole slaw | Jun 05 15:58 |
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| techrights-news | "there isn't really a built-in mechanism through which you would be made aware whether your work is being noticed or not, and that's by design. I don't know how common this is, but I don't find it to require much effort to keep up with everything that shows up on the main CAPCOM/spacewalk instances so I keep up with it regularly." gemini://sakurina.flounder.online/20201006r.gmi | Jun 05 15:59 |
| matey | /me grabs an hdmi cable | Jun 05 15:59 |
| matey | i dont prefer hdmi at all, but i still have this because sometimes its useful | Jun 05 15:59 |
| techrights-news | "Lack of willpower is our brain’s way of protecting us from overwork" gemini://idiomdrottning.org/doing-it | Jun 05 16:00 |
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| matey | /me connects it to this same monitor | Jun 05 16:00 |
| techrights-news | 🔤SpellBinding: DYORSUL Wordo: NOOKS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-06-05.gmi | Jun 05 16:01 |
| matey | also i used to have a raspberry spy | Jun 05 16:02 |
| MinceR | my sony bluetooth speaker also turns off its bluetooth capability if there's a cable plugged into its analog AUX input | Jun 05 16:03 |
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| matey | my sony bluetooth speaker also turns off its bluetooth capability if there's a cable plugged into its analog AUX input <- yeah, before i got some nice little dj monitors | Jun 05 16:04 |
| matey | which make FUCKING AWESOME powered pc speakers | Jun 05 16:04 |
| matey | i had to settle for a piece of shit bluetooth speaker that-- i refuse to buy speakers that cant use a lead | Jun 05 16:05 |
| matey | so its exactly the same as yours in this respect. bluetooth disabled when you plug cable in | Jun 05 16:05 |
| matey | but i consider that a feature | Jun 05 16:05 |
| matey | didnt really want bluetooth in the thing at all | Jun 05 16:06 |
| matey | so another machine is now connected to this monitor with hdmi | Jun 05 16:06 |
| matey | a laptop at that | Jun 05 16:07 |
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| MinceR | i have very little room in that room | Jun 05 16:10 |
| matey | /me connects dj speakers via the headphone jack | Jun 05 16:10 |
| MinceR | but i'm thinking of replacing that bluetooth speaker with a soundbar | Jun 05 16:10 |
| matey | i simply do not like bluetooth | Jun 05 16:11 |
| matey | and im not in love with speakers that are designed in a way that misses the point of why there are two channels in the first place | Jun 05 16:11 |
| matey | because two ears, dipshits. so aiming the speakers 180 degress away from each other-- duh | Jun 05 16:12 |
| matey | why not have a monitor that shows half the picture on one side... | Jun 05 16:12 |
| matey | and half on the other? | Jun 05 16:12 |
| matey | oh! because monitors are thankfully not designed like many bluetooth speakers | Jun 05 16:12 |
| MinceR | http://ffn.nodwick.com/?p=2432 | Jun 05 16:16 |
| matey | now | Jun 05 16:16 |
| matey | mplayer is playing sound | Jun 05 16:16 |
| matey | hdmi shows the picture | Jun 05 16:16 |
| MinceR | some of that stuff is designed to work with bouncing sound off the walls | Jun 05 16:16 |
| matey | and the sound is coming out (over the headphone jack) to the dj monitors | Jun 05 16:16 |
| matey | so no, hdmi does not "steal" the sound | Jun 05 16:17 |
| matey | rather it provides an audio device that sound can play to | Jun 05 16:17 |
| matey | and its up to the operating system (not the monitor) to figure out where the sound goes | Jun 05 16:17 |
| matey | i might add that "configuration" consisted of connecting the cables and-- thats it | Jun 05 16:18 |
| MinceR | that was not schestowitz_TR2's problem | Jun 05 16:18 |
| MinceR | his problem was that the monitor was unwilling to play audio on its built-in speakers coming from its analog audio input as long as it was connected via HDMI | Jun 05 16:18 |
| XRevan86 | That's of course the monitor's fault. | Jun 05 16:19 |
| matey | then i understood him correctly | Jun 05 16:19 |
| matey | coming from its analog audio input <- guys, thats via the headphone jack, at least historically | Jun 05 16:19 |
| matey | the analog audio input for a monitor connects to what? | Jun 05 16:20 |
| XRevan86 | But I don't understand the configuration all that well. | Jun 05 16:20 |
| matey | ive had monitors with that feature | Jun 05 16:20 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> seems like hdmi is dumber than i expected | Jun 05 16:21 |
| matey | #techrights : 06/05/22 14:28 <schestowitz_TR2> it 'steal's sound | Jun 05 16:21 |
| matey | i believe he means it prevents his headphone jack from working | Jun 05 16:21 |
| XRevan86 | The monitor, when connected to HDMI, doesn't take any sound to output from the JACK? | Jun 05 16:21 |
| matey | JACK is an audio (software) plugboard | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | the jack (the headphone "port") is what hes complaining about, i believe | Jun 05 16:22 |
| XRevan86 | 3.5mm | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | right | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | and mine is working fine | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | because its not part of hdmi to "steal" the audio | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | its up to the os | Jun 05 16:22 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Ye also have a monitor with a 3.5mm jack and an HDMI port? | Jun 05 16:22 |
| matey | Ye also have a monitor with a 3.5mm jack <- i have before. but what difference does it make to this | Jun 05 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It might decide to only take information from one port at a time. | Jun 05 16:23 |
| matey | whether the headphone jack (output) connects to speakers glued to the monitor, or any other speakers | Jun 05 16:23 |
| XRevan86 | And if it's bad enough, not even allow to re-configure that. | Jun 05 16:23 |
| matey | It might decide to only take information from one port at a time. <- maybe, however | Jun 05 16:23 |
| matey | in my experience at least, the speakers on the monitor arent that smart | Jun 05 16:24 |
| matey | and the monitor (controls) dont control the sound anyway | Jun 05 16:24 |
| XRevan86 | In my experience the speakers on the monitor are such it's better to not have any. | Jun 05 16:24 |
| matey | yeah but wanting them to work when theyre needed isnt unreasonable | Jun 05 16:24 |
| matey | its clear that roy blamed hdmi, youre faulting his monitor | Jun 05 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | yes | Jun 05 16:25 |
| XRevan86 | It's not HDMI's fault for being capable to transfer sound. | Jun 05 16:25 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> seems like hdmi is dumber than i expected | Jun 05 16:25 |
| sergay | https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2022/06/03/bsa_criticizes_cert_in_rules/ The Bull Shit Allegiance | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | <XRevan86> It's not HDMI's fault for being capable to transfer sound. <- thats exactly the point im making by connecting my laptop to hdmi and connecting speakers to my headphone jack, and having it work the way i want | Jun 05 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | It's a bus, it transmissions what is being told to it. | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | mmhmm | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | but roy blamed hdmi | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | my point was this isnt hdmis doung | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | doing | Jun 05 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Same. | Jun 05 16:26 |
| sergay | https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/03/bsa_criticizes_cert_in_rules/ | Jun 05 16:26 |
| matey | im not really a fan of hdmi | Jun 05 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | It's a patent trap after all. | Jun 05 16:27 |
| matey | i prefer simplicity, and hdmi fails there | Jun 05 16:27 |
| matey | but for a rasp spy what are the options? | Jun 05 16:27 |
| XRevan86 | And a DRM trap as well. | Jun 05 16:27 |
| matey | yeah | Jun 05 16:27 |
| matey | so when someone gave me a rasp spy i bought it a cable so i could connect it to my monitor | Jun 05 16:27 |
| matey | its a cheap cable too, cheap enough that if it didnt work id say "eh, cheap cable" | Jun 05 16:28 |
| matey | and not be all that surprised | Jun 05 16:28 |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165645 | Jun 05 16:28 |
| matey | stealing your audio is not how hdmi works though | Jun 05 16:29 |
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| sergay | STFU | Jun 05 16:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ? | Jun 05 16:30 |
| matey | as evidenced by the fact that i just plugged in speakers into my headphone jack, connected the monitor to hdmi and it still works | Jun 05 16:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I got my laptop working through headphones and speakers at the same time | Jun 05 16:31 |
| matey | <sergay> ksh: STFU: not found | Jun 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but with LennartAudio I could not find such an option | Jun 05 16:31 |
| matey | but with LennartAudio I could not find such an option <- maybe we found the culprit | Jun 05 16:31 |
| matey | either way its not hdmi | Jun 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and a monitor I bought in 2011 off the display counter is used for sound | Jun 05 16:31 |
| matey | yeah ive done that before | Jun 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | even before PA I don't recall it being possible | Jun 05 16:31 |
| matey | it connects to your headphone jack, yes? | Jun 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yes | Jun 05 16:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and thhen splits off physically | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | so basically its just a set of powered speakers for your headphone jack | Jun 05 16:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I did the same 20+ years ago | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | which are physically attached to your monitor | Jun 05 16:32 |
| sergay | i get internet from HDMI | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | I did the same 20+ years ago <- yeah it was a packard bell monitor i had with these things | Jun 05 16:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hdmi is drm trasnsport | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | and like mincer says, crappy speakers | Jun 05 16:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it can work without drm too | Jun 05 16:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but that's not what it is for | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | but sometimes those are the ones that arent being used | Jun 05 16:32 |
| matey | it can work without drm too <- it seems to. i guess | Jun 05 16:33 |
| XRevan86 | PipeWire (with qpwgraph as UI for instance) can pipe different applications to different outputs. | Jun 05 16:33 |
| sergay | drm only "works" with nvidea | Jun 05 16:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you can get hdmi clables for one pound | Jun 05 16:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not very good ones | Jun 05 16:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but they don't last very long | Jun 05 16:33 |
| matey | yeah id rather pay a few pounds for an hdmi cable | Jun 05 16:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | if you saw the specs, it's probbaly proprietary can of worms | Jun 05 16:34 |
| matey | but when i bought one for my spy i got the one they were selling | Jun 05 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | It's very easy to tell one application to go to HDMI with the default being internal audio / 3.5mm jack | Jun 05 16:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | with secrets and nda to 'protect' the 'protected' 'content' | Jun 05 16:34 |
| matey | which cost a few pounds (or the equivalent) | Jun 05 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | I don't think internal audio and 3.5mm jack can be discriminated. | Jun 05 16:34 |
| XRevan86 | But HDMI and Bluetooth can. | Jun 05 16:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I've just retrieved some old music | Jun 05 16:35 |
| matey | I don't think internal audio and 3.5mm jack can be discriminated. <- i think its at least theoretically possible these days | Jun 05 16:35 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | going back two decades plus | Jun 05 16:35 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Maybe on different hardware. | Jun 05 16:35 |
| matey | but whether any software is designed to do it | Jun 05 16:35 |
| matey | maybe | Jun 05 16:35 |
| matey | on older hardware i think its impossible | Jun 05 16:35 |
| matey | on newer hardware i think it depends. sometimes. | Jun 05 16:36 |
| XRevan86 | I have Intel HD sound. | Jun 05 16:36 |
| matey | i think headphone jacks have moved in the same direction | Jun 05 16:36 |
| sergay | i cant tell the difrence between hdmi and vga on my monitor | Jun 05 16:37 |
| XRevan86 | sergay: That means your monitor is… not great. | Jun 05 16:37 |
| sergay | are you sure? | Jun 05 16:37 |
| sergay | well its 1080p | Jun 05 16:38 |
| sergay | i just use vga cause its snappyer | Jun 05 16:39 |
| XRevan86 | sergay: 1080p is pretty much the maximum VGA can do. | Jun 05 16:39 |
| sergay | you cant tell the difrence | Jun 05 16:39 |
| matey | <sergay> you cant tell the difrence <- maybe the issue is the graphics card | Jun 05 16:40 |
| sergay | the only thing is you dont get sound of the monitor | Jun 05 16:40 |
| XRevan86 | https://bluecinetech.co.uk/vga-max-resolution/ found an article | Jun 05 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bluecinetech.co.uk | VGA Max Resolution: Is VGA Capable of 1080p and HD? - Blue Cine Tech | Jun 05 16:40 | |
| XRevan86 | "the only thing is you dont get sound of the monitor" <- No, that's the difference between *DVI* and HDMI. | Jun 05 16:41 |
| sergay | you could if you pluggin some cable | Jun 05 16:41 |
| sergay | BS theres DVI with sound | Jun 05 16:41 |
| sergay | theres no vga with sound | Jun 05 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | Oh, right, there is. | Jun 05 16:42 |
| sergay | the monitor has mic | Jun 05 16:43 |
| sergay | i think | Jun 05 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | Questionable solution, it's not like anyone is going to position their mouth right next to the monitor. | Jun 05 16:43 |
| sergay | but the thing is you cant tell vga from hdmi !:) | Jun 05 16:43 |
| XRevan86 | I guess it's better than a laptop-integrated microphone, so not too terrible. | Jun 05 16:44 |
| sergay | mic jack you idiot | Jun 05 16:44 |
| matey | it's not like anyone is going to position their mouth right next to the monitor. <- *picks up the mouse* "hello, computer!" | Jun 05 16:44 |
| XRevan86 | "you idiot" <- I was supposed to know that in your terminology "mic jack" means "3.5mm jack used either for speakers or a microphone" | Jun 05 16:45 |
| sergay | it's not like anyone is going to position their mouth right next to the monitor > laptops have mic on the monitor screen | Jun 05 16:45 |
| sergay | XRevan86 are you geting everything wrong on pourpose? | Jun 05 16:45 |
| matey | /me doesnt know why chunky changes nicks so often | Jun 05 16:46 |
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| sergay | must be something to do with politics | Jun 05 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | Right, I'll leave you be. | Jun 05 16:48 |
| sergay | politics = DRM | Jun 05 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | VGA is the best port to connect a digital monitor. | Jun 05 16:49 |
| sergay | s/politics/policys | Jun 05 16:49 |
| sergay | why? | Jun 05 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | Sounds dumb, doesn't it? | Jun 05 16:50 |
| sergay | just cause it sounds doesnt mean it is | Jun 05 16:50 |
| sergay | in reality its working the same from were im siting | Jun 05 16:51 |
| sergay | i tried both ways and couldn't tell any difference? | Jun 05 16:52 |
| sergay | and this way i got hdmi port free if i want to watch something on big TV | Jun 05 16:54 |
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| sergay | ipfs is the new gulag | Jun 05 16:59 |
| matey | /me points out what http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents | Jun 05 17:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights | Jun 05 17:07 | |
| matey | neatly sidesteps | Jun 05 17:07 |
| matey | /me is sure people here can see / have seen major threats that were left out | Jun 05 17:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's a very partial list | Jun 05 17:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | limited to internet-type things | Jun 05 17:09 |
| matey | heh | Jun 05 17:09 |
| matey | limited to things that were already true in 2017-2018 | Jun 05 17:09 |
| matey | imo the worst has happened since | Jun 05 17:09 |
| matey | dont get me wrong, the stuff that is on the list belongs there | Jun 05 17:10 |
| matey | and its very hard to make anything entirely comprehensive | Jun 05 17:10 |
| matey | youd sort of need a second universe to describe the first one | Jun 05 17:11 |
| matey | but theres a "shape" to whats left out, and imo no justification for that limit in scope | Jun 05 17:11 |
| matey | it simply reflects what techrights cant bring itself to talk about sincerely | Jun 05 17:11 |
| matey | just like it took forever to get systemd right | Jun 05 17:12 |
| matey | in a few years, maybe it will talk about whats happened in a way that reflects what has actually happened | Jun 05 17:12 |
| matey | but just like its too late to save gnu/linux from the systemd takeover | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | https://video.chalec.org/w/5Y338qZDJvBakEDmoY4jDe | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | FR : Actuellement en phase de test. | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | EN : Currently in testing. | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | RU : В настоящее время находится на стадии тестирования | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz | " | Jun 05 17:13 |
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| matey | rofl | Jun 05 17:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | francophonie rms | Jun 05 17:14 |
| sergay | bye bye world | Jun 05 17:14 |
| matey | mmhmm | Jun 05 17:14 |
| matey | maybe he says things in french that he wont bother to say in english | Jun 05 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | bye, sergay | Jun 05 17:14 |
| matey | its nice that he found a venue other than lieplanet | Jun 05 17:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | i cannot reach french | Jun 05 17:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but this french group seems very keen on freedom | Jun 05 17:15 |
| matey | but the way hes been stifled, he could go to the moon and have the same problem he has in boston | Jun 05 17:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | april is very quiet | Jun 05 17:15 |
| sergay | PeerTube | Jun 05 17:15 |
| sergay | JavaScript required | Jun 05 17:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | their rss feed barely updates once a month for english | Jun 05 17:15 |
| matey | april has always been pretty quiet, sadly | Jun 05 17:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I recall them being more vocal around 2010 | Jun 05 17:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | when jeremie was more active in politics | Jun 05 17:16 |
| matey | everyone was more vocal around 2010 | Jun 05 17:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | then he went mamut and toot | Jun 05 17:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: true also | Jun 05 17:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | on the Net anyway | Jun 05 17:17 |
| matey | on the net | Jun 05 17:17 |
| matey | at least | Jun 05 17:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | seems many people increasingly got muzzled by fake social fake media | Jun 05 17:17 |
| matey | that too | Jun 05 17:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and then it shuts down | Jun 05 17:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | digg, icentica, and the domino bticks still fall | Jun 05 17:17 |
| matey | i feel ive missed nothing since leavign the shitiverse | Jun 05 17:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | after joindiaspora it'll be twitter for sure, maybe not in that order of sequence | Jun 05 17:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | mastodon is barely growing | Jun 05 17:18 |
| matey | after joindiaspora it'll be twitter for sure <- i thought it would be fun to see it turn into musker | Jun 05 17:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | iirc, irc turns 35 next year | Jun 05 17:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sandbag is leaving FB | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or got ousted | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | which means FB is really hot on gasoline | Jun 05 17:19 |
| sergay | whats that video about? | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | just strike a match | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: seems he realised twitter is a dud | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or he never meant to buy anyway | Jun 05 17:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sure got a ton of free publicity out of a 2 paragraph letter | Jun 05 17:19 |
| matey | yep "IRC was created by Jarkko Oikarinen in August 1988" | Jun 05 17:20 |
| sergay | hes a freind of linus? | Jun 05 17:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | irc does not get bloated like 'social' 'media' | Jun 05 17:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | adds a bit of unicide | Jun 05 17:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the /history stuff from ircv3 is not imposed | Jun 05 17:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | backward compatible with the simpest irc stuff | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | same in gemin i | Jun 05 17:21 |
| sergay | irc does not get bloated like 'social' 'media' LOL | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | any capsule is accessible to anything | Jun 05 17:21 |
| matey | i dunno, i think someh4x0r has reason to be concerned | Jun 05 17:21 |
| matey | but | Jun 05 17:21 |
| matey | i would say irc is possibly (maybe) like unix | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the www became "must cookie " must workers" "must JS" ... | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so it's no longer pretending to eb a spec for a browser | Jun 05 17:21 |
| matey | in that a lot of people will go the gnu/linux/systemd route and fuck it up royally | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or two browsers controlled by gulag | Jun 05 17:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | esp. ther "worker" parts | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | webassembly and all | Jun 05 17:22 |
| matey | and some people (the openbsd of irc) will stick closer to the original | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DRM/EME | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the web is a laughing stock these days | Jun 05 17:22 |
| matey | even if most irc becomes a bloated mess, which could happen | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's not even pretnding to be standard | Jun 05 17:22 |
| matey | the web is a laughing stock these days <- yep | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | chrome is not a web browsr | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | chrome is an application/virtual machines | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the www/html is just a transport layer for this application | Jun 05 17:22 |
| sergay | the web ª= google | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | to pass around data | Jun 05 17:22 |
| matey | virtual machines? | Jun 05 17:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like binaries | Jun 05 17:22 |
| sergay | the web = google | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: akin to | Jun 05 17:23 |
| sergay | i cant find nay page it doesnt link to google | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | look into the latest undocumented specs | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they ship byecodes and stuff | Jun 05 17:23 |
| matey | where are the undocumented specs documented? | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the web turnhed from "let's make this work using standards" | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | intoo: | Jun 05 17:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "let's make these "standards" suit the needs of this application" | Jun 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so now you can run an OS like win95 in the 'browser' | Jun 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 30 million lines of code and fast growing | Jun 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | to impplement a 'satndard | Jun 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | reminds me of OOXML | Jun 05 17:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the devs don't work to standarsds | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they work WITH framewowrks | Jun 05 17:25 |
| matey | the fact that js is turing complete meant all it had to do was become fast enough | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | those frameworks are tested for compatibility | Jun 05 17:25 |
| matey | and this was a possibility | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | no standard compliance | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they test against software | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not specs | Jun 05 17:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | even the js gets obfuscatd a lot | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they say for performance | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | on 10Mbit/sec connection | Jun 05 17:26 |
| sergay | you can mine bitcoin using the web | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | while they ship 2MB font files | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | go to google.com | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | press view source | Jun 05 17:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and tell me if that "code" makes sense | Jun 05 17:26 |
| matey | im sure it does help performance | Jun 05 17:26 |
| matey | it is unfortunate that they push js into tasks where the performance different matters | Jun 05 17:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sergay: passing the electirc bilsl to you | Jun 05 17:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | using the breoser | Jun 05 17:27 |
| matey | i would say bloat has no place on the web | Jun 05 17:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and you don't even know what the heck it does | Jun 05 17:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it just... does.. something | Jun 05 17:27 |
| matey | in the way that icebergs have no business getting in front of luxury liners | Jun 05 17:27 |
| sergay | https://coinexpansion.com/best-free-bitcoin-mining-sites/ | Jun 05 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-coinexpansion.com | 10 Best Free Bitcoin Mining Sites To Earn Free BTC | Jun 05 17:27 | |
| matey | there really was no golden age of javascript | Jun 05 17:28 |
| matey | it nearly lept straight from mediocrity to dystopia | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | no, there was not | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 20+ years ago I evenm tried vbscript | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not for long | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | just an experiment in my site | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | then JS | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you could do some OK things with it | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like choose a quote at random | Jun 05 17:28 |
| matey | again, turing complete | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | now we have frameworks | Jun 05 17:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and people addd 1MB of code just to render some little bouncing ball whiloe you wait | Jun 05 17:29 |
| matey | yep | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | (you also needed to wait for that 1MB of code) | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and then they send you a font for the headline | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for 5 words and 30 chaarcters | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for that your router and computers work hard | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and the exchanges also | Jun 05 17:29 |
| matey | the fonts bother me more than the js | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and the datacentres | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and then you render glyphcs | Jun 05 17:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | get ready for the third CPU core to kick in | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so you can appreciate the headline's font | Jun 05 17:30 |
| sergay | anf people talk bad about flash | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | instead of just using some font you already have | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and which you like more | Jun 05 17:30 |
| matey | im not sure i have a 3rd cpu | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sergay: flash won | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it became the Web | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the web became flash | Jun 05 17:30 |
| sergay | now its all flash sites with out flash | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and now it's called w33c | Jun 05 17:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | activescript | Jun 05 17:30 |
| matey | i might only have 2 physical cores on my fastest machine | Jun 05 17:30 |
| matey | but there are more virtual cores | Jun 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ActionScripot I meant | Jun 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz | "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActionScript | Jun 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Scripting | Jun 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz | I worked with Flash in 2000 | Jun 05 17:31 |
| schestowitz | it was just some IDE | Jun 05 17:31 |
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| schestowitz | mostly visual | Jun 05 17:32 |
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| schestowitz | the swf files were small | Jun 05 17:32 |
| sergay | TechrightsBot-tr BYE BYE WORLD | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | but you could get nothing indexed | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | gulag did try to index that at one point | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | with today's "Web" it cannot do that either | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | or barely | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz | link deep linking into "webapps" | Jun 05 17:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | *like | Jun 05 17:34 |
| matey | IRC was used to report on the 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt throughout a media blackout.[9] It was previously used in a similar fashion during the Gulf War. | Jun 05 17:34 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | dial modem age | Jun 05 17:35 |
| sergay | 1991 was pottin | Jun 05 17:35 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | irc scales ok with that | Jun 05 17:35 |
| matey | Another fork effort, the first that made a lasting difference, was initiated by "Wildthang" in the United States in October 1992. (It forked off the EFnet ircd version 2.8.10). It was meant to be just a test network to develop bots on but it quickly grew to a network "for friends and their friends". | Jun 05 17:35 |
| matey | i used irc on dialup of course | Jun 05 17:35 |
| matey | in dos | Jun 05 17:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I did not on dos | Jun 05 17:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | what did you use to dial up in dos? | Jun 05 17:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | bbs eras? | Jun 05 17:36 |
| matey | The "undernetters" wanted to take ircd further in an attempt to make it use less bandwidth and to try to sort out the channel chaos (netsplits and takeovers) that EFnet started to suffer from. For the latter purpose, the Undernet implemented timestamps, new routing and offered the CService—a program that allowed users to register channels and then attempted to protect them from troublemakers. | Jun 05 17:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | winmodems were the way to bring residential market to the web | Jun 05 17:36 |
| matey | what did you use to dial up in dos? <- arachne | Jun 05 17:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | post 1991 | Jun 05 17:36 |
| matey | it had its own dialer | Jun 05 17:37 |
| *schestowitz_TR2 never used command line dialer | Jun 05 17:37 | |
| matey | winmodems <- i had an external | Jun 05 17:37 |
| matey | never used command line dialer <- arachne had a graphical ui, including its config | Jun 05 17:38 |
| matey | not command line | Jun 05 17:38 |
| matey | but it ran without windows | Jun 05 17:38 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | needs some multitasking | Jun 05 17:38 |
| matey | no | Jun 05 17:38 |
| matey | i mean dos could do tsr and the modem connection is done with hardware | Jun 05 17:39 |
| matey | so while the modem stays connected, a non-multitasking os can read from the modem when it wants to | Jun 05 17:39 |
| matey | its like saying you need multitasking have a mouse cursor | Jun 05 17:39 |
| matey | to have a mouse cursor | Jun 05 17:40 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | fair point | Jun 05 17:40 |
| matey | at any rate, dos can shell to another application | Jun 05 17:41 |
| sergay | why does apt goes thru the upfating procedure even if there are no new packets to upgrade? | Jun 05 17:41 |
| matey | if you have enough ram, you can run qbasic from qbasic: | Jun 05 17:41 |
| sergay | thats just idiotic | Jun 05 17:41 |
| matey | shell "qbasic" ' run qbasic from qbasic | Jun 05 17:42 |
| matey | arachne could run an irc program | Jun 05 17:42 |
| techrights-news | Phoronix is run by Microbel, giving free marketing to a YEARS-OLD piece of crap from Microsoft that nobody but Microsoft uses https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=CBL-Mariner-2.0.20220527 | Jun 05 17:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Ships Big Update To Their CBL-Mariner 2.0 Linux Distribution - Phoronix | Jun 05 17:42 | |
| matey | arachne was still running, but you couldnt "switch back" to it until the irc program ended | Jun 05 17:42 |
| matey | when i say it was still running, thats sort of a misnomer. it couldnt "do" anything while it was running an irc program | Jun 05 17:43 |
| matey | just like if you run qbasic from qbasic, you cant "switch back" to the first qb without ending the second one | Jun 05 17:43 |
| matey | but dos was capable of this | Jun 05 17:43 |
| techrights-news | I do remember this (20 years ago): "I certainly don't miss the days when one needed to modify their xorg.conf and jump through hurdles just to enable multi-monitor support on Linux before display hot-plugging worked..." https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Phoronix-18 | Jun 05 17:43 |
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| matey | on the other hand, borland had a tsr that you could bring up at any time with a hotkey | Jun 05 17:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | SomeH4x0r was born about 3 days before phoronix | Jun 05 17:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and 8 days before tuxmachines | Jun 05 17:44 |
| matey | sidekick i think it was called | Jun 05 17:44 |
| matey | SomeH4x0r was born about 3 days before phoronix <- and 8 days before tuxmachines <- yep | Jun 05 17:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sidekick was a failing phone microsoft ruined | Jun 05 17:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | from danger | Jun 05 17:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe they also ruins the word/brand | Jun 05 17:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they like stealing other companies' name | Jun 05 17:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | if they can get away with it | Jun 05 17:45 |
| matey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borland_Sidekick | Jun 05 17:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Borland Sidekick - Wikipedia | Jun 05 17:45 | |
| sergay | with that nick he should be 16 in 1999 | Jun 05 17:45 |
| matey | Borland Sidekick was a personal information manager (PIM) launched by American software company Borland in 1984 under Philippe Kahn's leadership. It was an early and popular terminate and stay resident program (TSR) for MS-DOS which enabled computer users to activate the program using a hot key combination | Jun 05 17:46 |
| matey | i think i had it set up to use both shift keys | Jun 05 17:46 |
| matey | the default is ctrl-alt and thats shit | Jun 05 17:46 |
| matey | calling it a "personal information manager" is nearly misleading | Jun 05 17:46 |
| matey | it was an editor, a calculator, a lot of utilities you might use in dos one at a time, or together in a multitasking environment | Jun 05 17:47 |
| matey | for example, i could (if i wanted) do all my text editing and coding in sidekick | Jun 05 17:47 |
| matey | this wasnt my preference, but it was a nice option | Jun 05 17:47 |
| matey | you could be working on something, hit shift-shift, then add something to the text editor and "close" it again, at which point it wasnt really closed | Jun 05 17:48 |
| matey | not bad, for dos | Jun 05 17:48 |
| matey | one of the cooler programs i used prior to windows | Jun 05 17:48 |
| matey | According to Philippe Kahn, Borland did not originally intend to sell Sidekick. It developed the utility to assist the small company's employees. | Jun 05 17:49 |
| matey | Sidekick 1.0 Plus included a broader selection of calculators (Business, Scientific, Programmer, Formula), a 9-file Notepad text editor, Appointment Book and Scheduler, a terminal communication tool and ASCII Table. In addition to variants on and enhancements to the 1.0 features, Plus included a 9-file Outliner, q file and directory manager, Clipboard, and supported Expanded Memory and a RAM disk. | Jun 05 17:49 |
| matey | the lead ultimately took it with him when he left, founded a company that worked on it further, then sold to motorola | Jun 05 17:50 |
| matey | the windows version even synced with a palm | Jun 05 17:50 |
| matey | so maybe thats why they call it a personal information manager | Jun 05 17:51 |
| matey | at one point i got one of these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timex_Datalink | Jun 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Timex Datalink - Wikipedia | Jun 05 17:51 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165646 | Jun 05 17:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 05 17:51 | |
| matey | but apart from the main feature being utterly awesome, i really had no use for it (really) | Jun 05 17:52 |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] USB / Thunderbolt driver updates for 5.19-rc1 ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YpnhBp%2Fnzjpz+Pxr@kroah.com/T/#u ䷉ Source: greg kroah | Jun 05 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] USB / Thunderbolt driver updates for 5.19-rc1 | Jun 05 17:52 | |
| matey | it couldnt hold much data, and i wasnt enough of a pimp in those years to NEED a contact list in my watch | Jun 05 17:52 |
| matey | though i did have one | Jun 05 17:52 |
| techrights-news | [GIT PULL] Char/Misc driver updates 5.19-rc1 - Greg KH ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/YpnmYB8SN5dPweLV@kroah.com/ ䷉ Source: greg kroah | Jun 05 17:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [GIT PULL] Char/Misc driver updates 5.19-rc1 - Greg KH | Jun 05 17:52 | |
| matey | it probably made sense for some (dorky) exec types | Jun 05 17:53 |
| techrights-news | UPC or Unitary Patent became a laughing stock because of repeated, seemingly endless, false predictions (some law firms stand to profit from such predictions) http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-false-predictions/ | Jun 05 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Unified Patent Court (UPC) Always Started “Next Year” | Techrights | Jun 05 17:53 | |
| techrights-news | We’re trying to tackle misconceptions and mythology, e.g. whatever surrounds the concept or perception of patents, the Web as an “open” platform, and social control media as “communication” tool (or social… or media); Techrights is entering another phase with more scarce resources such as time http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/techrights-vs-misconceptions/ | Jun 05 17:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Readjusting for the Coming Decade | Techrights | Jun 05 17:53 | |
| matey | it was an interesting precursor to the smartwatch | Jun 05 17:53 |
| techrights-news | Despite the EPO pressing on with totally illegal agenda, based on deliberate falsehoods, Team UPC must get rather creative and distract from real issues using phony ones alongside bogus, baseless predictions and what they hope can become self-fulfilling prophecies (in the face of severe legal and constitutional obstacles) http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/upc-straw-man-arguments/ | Jun 05 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unified Patent Court (UPC) Noise: Loaded Headlines, Straw Man Arguments, and False Predictions as a Lobbying/Sales Strategy | Techrights | Jun 05 17:54 | |
| matey | " It is the first watch capable of downloading information wirelessly from a computer." | Jun 05 17:54 |
| techrights-news | EPO corruption has become very prevalent because today’s sole goal is to grant as many patents as possible, then congratulate oneself having granted unlawful and legally-invalid European Patents by the millions; the same people who destroyed the patent office are still trying to do the same to patent courts http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/kangaroo-courts-swpats/ | Jun 05 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | European Software Patents Cannot Withstand Scrutiny, EPO Management Wants Kangaroo Courts (UPC) to Change That | Techrights | Jun 05 17:54 | |
| matey | considering that bluetooth didnt exist it was an interesting solution | Jun 05 17:55 |
| matey | i must have not hated microsoft as much at the time. not only did they require windows... | Jun 05 17:55 |
| matey | (3x or 9x) | Jun 05 17:55 |
| matey | "These early models were, at the time of their introduction, the only watches to bear the Microsoft logo." | Jun 05 17:56 |
| matey | i no longer have it | Jun 05 17:56 |
| techrights-news | "prestigious organisations such as Microsoft, Bugcrowd and Google." It says prestigious as if Pentagon contractor that commit crimes and kill people is the hallmark of "prestige" https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/575419294/viettel-experts-win-at-world-s-leading-cyber-attack-contest | Jun 05 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.einnews.com | Viettel experts win at world’s leading cyber-attack contest - EIN Presswire | Jun 05 17:56 | |
| sergay | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/05/canonical-hiring-gaming-engineer-for-ubuntu canonical needs to be cool again | Jun 05 17:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Canonical is Recruiting Devs for 'Ubuntu Gaming' Team - OMG! Ubuntu! | Jun 05 17:57 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | reactionarey | Jun 05 17:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they realise shitting on the community for a decade means ubuntu is losing users | Jun 05 17:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | to other distros | Jun 05 17:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Mark S (MS) mistook the microsoft "shareholders community" for the Ubuntu "community" | Jun 05 17:58 |
| matey | With the advent of portable computers which use active matrix LCD screens which did not refresh like CRT monitors and therefore could not be used for data transfer,[23] in 1997, Timex introduced a notebook adapter that incorporated a red LED and connected with the laptop through the serial port. During download, the LED flashed and the flashing programmed the watch much like the horizontal bars of the CRT. | Jun 05 17:58 |
| matey | Mark S (MS) mistook the microsoft "shareholders community" for the Ubuntu "community" <- it wouldnt be his first mistake of such magnitude | Jun 05 17:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | neglecting what you claim to stand for is a risky gambit | Jun 05 17:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ask microbel | Jun 05 17:59 |
| matey | neglecting what you claim to stand for is a risky gambit | Jun 05 18:00 |
| matey | :> | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://phoronix.com/ | Jun 05 18:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Hardware Reviews, Open-Source Benchmarks & Linux Performance - Phoronix | Jun 05 18:00 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Support Phoronix | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | While Having Ad-Free Browsing, | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Single-Page Article Viewing" | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | AMD already supports Phoronix | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and other companies do too | Jun 05 18:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yo get articles in exchange for something | Jun 05 18:01 |
| matey | "our sponsors have purchsed our integrity. now you can subsidise them" | Jun 05 18:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it wasn't alwatys this bad | Jun 05 18:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | one CPU, fine | Jun 05 18:01 |
| matey | same model as the new fsf | Jun 05 18:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but they went way too far | Jun 05 18:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2022/02/03/phoronix-went-too-far/ | Jun 05 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Blogs Become Marketing and Benchmarks Become Product Promotions | Techrights | Jun 05 18:01 | |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> it wasn't alwatys this bad <- this i believe | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2022/05/10/sponsored-by-amd/ | Jun 05 18:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Peak AMD | Techrights | Jun 05 18:02 | |
| matey | but imo phoronix was always open source | Jun 05 18:02 |
| matey | and as such, it has gotten substantially worse over time | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not as bad as some | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | phoronix is covering gnu also | Jun 05 18:02 |
| matey | sure | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but sadly github too | Jun 05 18:02 |
| matey | whats left of it | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and microsoft in recent years] | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | mono a decade ago | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but not so often | Jun 05 18:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and it's not alone | Jun 05 18:03 |
| matey | no | Jun 05 18:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | LF actually feeds some site off its palm... to promote github and similar | Jun 05 18:03 |
| matey | lf of course, is the most fraud you can get without it being hauled in for fraud | Jun 05 18:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | christine hall sold out | Jun 05 18:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | she used to condemn LF | Jun 05 18:03 |
| matey | christine hall sold out <- in more ways than one | Jun 05 18:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | now she works on their payroll indirectly and more directly | Jun 05 18:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they decide what to write about | Jun 05 18:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and sometimes ICBM | Jun 05 18:04 |
| matey | there seems to be precious little left other than shilling | Jun 05 18:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Michael Sean-Kerner did not sell out as badly | Jun 05 18:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he did joke about LKF | Jun 05 18:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and he knows LF is junk | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but he's not selling himself to them | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | just the occasional fluff | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | SJVN is coin-operated most of the time | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | SPAMnil is SPAM operation | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | marketing spam and bot manipulations | Jun 05 18:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | his site got x10 more traffic when it was muktware | Jun 05 18:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | groklaw threw in the towel without selling out AT ALL | Jun 05 18:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | which is at least something you can respect | Jun 05 18:07 |
| matey | yeah | Jun 05 18:07 |
| matey | just like a lawyer though | Jun 05 18:07 |
| matey | i mean, she could have looked into better tech like the rest of us did | Jun 05 18:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/05/31/the-linux-foundation-politics/ | Jun 05 18:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Has Turned Its Blog (and the Linux.com Web Site) Into Politics (Updated) | Techrights | Jun 05 18:07 | |
| schestowitz | LF should rename | Jun 05 18:07 |
| matey | but lawyers really DONT do that sort of thing | Jun 05 18:07 |
| schestowitz | the D&I Foundation | Jun 05 18:07 |
| matey | theyre the last respected breed of luddite | Jun 05 18:08 |
| schestowitz | so they can troll FSF | Jun 05 18:08 |
| matey | building igloos of papers and living in them | Jun 05 18:08 |
| matey | maybe "respected" should be in quotes | Jun 05 18:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that's SFC | Jun 05 18:08 |
| matey | but there are a couple good ones | Jun 05 18:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | SFC = paper and money | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | accounting and lawyering | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and at lekast they ended copyleft.conf | Jun 05 18:09 |
| matey | shilling for corporations | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz | [05:13] <techrights-news> Did copyleft.conf die because of the pandemic or because SFC recognised that bagging bribes from Microsoft was bad for its reputation? | Jun 05 18:09 |
| matey | sfc | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | salesforce | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | works for nra | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | works for ice | Jun 05 18:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | pays sfc | Jun 05 18:10 |
| matey | nra <- nra or nsa? | Jun 05 18:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sfc = give us iced-blood-soaked money | Jun 05 18:10 |
| matey | nra would be funny | Jun 05 18:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | nra also | Jun 05 18:10 |
| matey | haha | Jun 05 18:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the employees are protesting | Jun 05 18:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and salesforce does nothing | Jun 05 18:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/salesforce-works-for-ice/ | Jun 05 18:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The OSI’s President Apparently Does Not Know That His Own Employer (Salesforce) Works for ICE | Techrights | Jun 05 18:11 | |
| matey | the employees are protesting <- protestwashing | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | afaik, they NEVER stopped working with ICE | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | same with Mirosoft.. | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | if they had stop you WOULD know | Jun 05 18:11 |
| matey | "im completely against what my employer is doing. there, i feel better now." | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they would exchange the contract money for PR or face-saving value | Jun 05 18:11 |
| matey | i mean it is better than saying nothing | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | what does ICE "SELL" anyway? | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | babies? | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Salesforce" | Jun 05 18:11 |
| matey | its a question of how far it goes vs whether its enough | Jun 05 18:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | we auction "brown babies" | Jun 05 18:11 |
| matey | what does ICE "SELL" anyway? <- a farce | Jun 05 18:12 |
| matey | poverty, oppression, split families | Jun 05 18:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | these corporations have reduce "don't be a jerk" into a cynical PR token, even a buzzphrase, "D&I' | Jun 05 18:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | *reduced | Jun 05 18:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | new market | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | nw opportunities | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | stock photography | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "are you black?" | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "we are hiring" | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "making stock photography of black people for companies that do not hire black people" | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "apply today" | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2020/06/14/linux-foundation-with-zero-african-american-employees-in-a-country-where-13-4-identify-as-african-american-boasts-about-its-support-for-the-black-community/ | Jun 05 18:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 3 | Jun 05 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation, With Zero African-American Employees (in a Country Where 13.4% Identify as African-American), Boasts About Its “Support for the Black Community” | Techrights | Jun 05 18:15 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | IBM made "purity" databases | Jun 05 18:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | also for blacks | Jun 05 18:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not to help them | Jun 05 18:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ut to avoid them | Jun 05 18:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "bad genes" | Jun 05 18:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "eugenics = good genes | Jun 05 18:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2021/07/25/lectures-from-microsoft/ | Jun 05 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | No, Microsoft Does Not Get to Lecture Us on GNU/Linux Security (or Security in General) | Techrights | Jun 05 18:17 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | sorry, wrong link | Jun 05 18:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2020/06/06/hypocritical-ibm-red-hat/ | Jun 05 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM (Red Hat) Lectured FSF That It Needed More Diversity, But Was It Looking at the Mirror? IBM and Red Hat Are Even Less Diverse. | Techrights | Jun 05 18:17 | |
| matey | IBM made "purity" databases <- theyre a real class act | Jun 05 18:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2021/04/25/ibm-germany-history/ | Jun 05 18:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Documentary: IBM Founder (Watson) Gave a Nazi Salute, Admired Hitler, Said Hitler Was Doing the Right Thing | Techrights | Jun 05 18:21 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | open letter: cancel rms | Jun 05 18:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | buy watson(r) | Jun 05 18:22 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ | Jun 05 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights | Jun 05 18:23 | |
| matey | roy has a new toy: http://techrights.org/wiki/High-Priority_Opponents | Jun 05 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Priority Opponents - Techrights | Jun 05 18:23 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | don't mention it on twitter | Jun 05 18:23 |
| matey | its not a bad page, in terms of throwing a lot of information together in a single place. its actually good enough that if youre new here, youd be forgiven for thinking the following is a nitpick. | Jun 05 18:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | do not upload to GULAGtube either | Jun 05 18:24 |
| matey | it isnt. the page omits and tiptoes around the same things techrights always omits and tiptoes around. that makes it worth noting. | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it says hitler in the title | Jun 05 18:24 |
| matey | i should be impressed, i suppose, that it finally admits a point mincer worked for more than a decade on: | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and has some portions in the video that show hitler | Jun 05 18:24 |
| matey | > IBM has followed Microsoft's outline from the Halloween Documents and been able to use systemd to decommodify GNU/Linux in such a way that it becomes so complex that their services must be hired | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that's like memorablia | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | gulag is not a free speech company, it's a business | Jun 05 18:24 |
| matey | this is a far cry from "neutral or apathetic", its true-- but the years-late, too-late admission that red hat and ibm have thwarted the free software ecosystem only means that everything has already been taken over. for a more extreme example, its more useful (in practical terms) to note that genocide is occurring and ongoing, than it is to admit it after the fact. | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they would bury or removee the video one way or another | Jun 05 18:24 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe copyrights | Jun 05 18:24 |
| matey | the latter of course matters a great deal in historical terms, though it isnt going to bring back those that are lost. | Jun 05 18:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe traemarks | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | this would have been a more useful thing to admit half a decade ago, when roy was still fence-riding. even this is no guarantee that the issue wont be downplayed again. | Jun 05 18:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | watson(tm) is a trademark | Jun 05 18:25 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | of IBM | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | bad companies and things bad companies do are very important in the big picture (and even the small details) regarding what has happened to free software. we should be holding these companies responsible, so naming them and attributing to them to what theyve done to us is worthwhile. but what does that leave out? | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | the greatest omission ive found could fit into any of the following categories or subcategories listed already: | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | * 3 Disenfranchisement | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | * 4 Censorship | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | * = 4.1 K. A custom-made censorship based on profiling | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | * 7 Entrapment | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | * 8 Other Threats (Peripheral) | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | corrupt / defunct / colluding organisations are mentioned, though only when they are ORIGINAL proxies to corporations, such as the ones started by people from microsoft. | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | but organisations that have been taken over by, or lowered the drawbridge to these same companies? they get no mention. | Jun 05 18:25 |
| matey | media manipulation gets a category, but the very counterrevolution that is "open source"? dont worry about it. osi was taken over by microsoft, and microsoft is listed, but the betrayal by osi almost seems to be something roy hopes can be undone if we just make things clear enough to those responsible. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | its even more ridiculous than assuming the same will happen to the new fsf, and there is no mention of the coup at all. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | SFC is not allowed to criticise IBM | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | indeed | Jun 05 18:26 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and it is now ALLOWING to criticise IBM, either | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | the collusion of people within the free software movement with open source and these companies, is what destroyed the fsf, ended stallmans career (what he does in his retirement is lovely, but even his talks are berift of soul and vital new information, which is what you would expect from someone who was destroyed by the two-faced among his own people) and now turn the fsf into a pathetic osi-inspired shitshow. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | the coup has gone on for years, and the damage is devastating. it has become an occupation, but just as techrights took more than half a decade (too late, maybe even by design) to get this right, it has downplayed the coup since 2019 the same way it downplayed systemd. you can be certain that it will be too late when techrights finally has a proper look at what the fuck happened. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | no coup, no new fsf, not even osi is listed as a threat. in an article last year, techrights said osi is dead. i said that it keeps taking terrible things that are actually true of the fsf and the free software movement, and re-framing those things as being osi and open source-- osi is dead, they attacked open source. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | the fsf is dead, they attacked free software. thats way more important, but just like techrights rode the fence for years while debian and red hat committed seppuku, roy isnt ready to admit it. he misleads, he downplays, he omits-- while techrights fails to cover the biggest story, except in a way that makes it seem like less than a big deal. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | the biggest, baddest page on the wiki in over a year just happens to fail to cover it too. | Jun 05 18:26 |
| matey | is this a drawback of the wiki page? the wiki? | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | actually, its a drawback of techrights itself: cover every story BUT the biggest! | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | i mean thats typical by now. techrights is incredibly brave when it comes to side issues and scandals that people perhaps SHOULD but clearly DO NOT care about, especially after resignations come. | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | when it comes to the biggest problems that are closest to home, techrights says DONT MENTION THE WAR! | Jun 05 18:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/fosdem-censorship-legal.png | Jun 05 18:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "bhuhnhehim[m]" | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | its also too late for it not to be a 15 (and a half) year old blog that has a pattern of downplaying the most important (even existential) crises in the movement while treating the 3rd-and-4th-worst threats as the biggest. | Jun 05 18:27 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you cannot criticise ibm | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> you cannot criticise ibm <- somehow i manage | Jun 05 18:27 |
| matey | its funny how when you make a habit of that, everything else you do does more to serve bullshit than it does to inform; open source has done the same for decades, using real (but smaller) issues as decoys from even more urgent ones. | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | but then, thats techrights-- to a t. its also what was done to the fsf to destroy it from the inside, what was done by the mob to stallman, and what is still being done by (and to) the board and everything from and tangential to the new fsf. | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | free software isnt bullshit-- but most of the things that propped it up from the beginning have turned into bullshit. | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | techrights just says "COMPANIES DOING BAD THINGS!" | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | yes, thats true. but while its true, its missing a very key part of the story. if you rely on techrights as your "radar" for free softwares survival, youll see the blips techrights shows you and miss so much of whats going on, you might as well say youve been left out of the picture. | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | you will see those blips though-- over and over and over again. and free software continues to fall apart. what a shame, you would think techrights wanted that fixed. how does it plan to achieve that? with the same old shit, just like the fsf itself. | Jun 05 18:28 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you can edit the wiki | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | i will not | Jun 05 18:28 |
| matey | when the fsf eats itself, techrights keeps calling it progress. and the corporations are still bad, but the people who sold us out to them year after year? lets not worry, we can just keep allowing that, the real problems are the big bad companies-- NOT the people who keep dragging us into servitude of the same bad companies... apparently. | Jun 05 18:29 |
| sergay | need new pc to play Far Cry 6 | Jun 05 18:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | i made it in a hurry | Jun 05 18:29 |
| matey | its a good page, other than what im saying | Jun 05 18:29 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and it was a first attempot | Jun 05 18:29 |
| matey | we used to call them shills and traitors. now "we" treat them like victims of circumstance-- as if they were helpless to not stab us in the back. well, the news is out: theyre not our opponents at all! backstabbers and saboteurs are our FRIENDS now. isnt that wonderful? not really, but i guess it gets pageviews. | Jun 05 18:29 |
| matey | it was a good first attempt | Jun 05 18:29 |
| matey | i suppose waiting five years to tell the real story is just a good publishing strategy. for free software, id call it a negative. if this wasnt part of a pattern of deflection and misleading people spanning years at a time, then it really might be a nitpick. | Jun 05 18:29 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | anyway, some people thought he would take over from rmshehim[m] | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but that never happened | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | instead fsff gave him marching orders | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and he left along several others | Jun 05 18:30 |
| matey | rmshehim[m] <- lol | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I say, good riddance | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | same need to happen in eff | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | bring back gilmorer | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | barlow cannot be brought back from the dead | Jun 05 18:30 |
| matey | bring back gilmorer <- i dont think hes coming back either | Jun 05 18:30 |
| matey | not because hes useless | Jun 05 18:30 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | then oust the people who foughht to oust golmore | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | whoever they are | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they are not in alignment with the eff's mission | Jun 05 18:31 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> then oust the people who foughht to oust golmore <- OH CMON | Jun 05 18:31 |
| matey | you accused me of trying to "cancel the cancellers" | Jun 05 18:31 |
| matey | in that context "then oust the people who foughht to oust golmore" is just trolling :P | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | tuened out walsh and mako-hill were among the ousters | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | of sorts | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you used to think they would be leaders for the org | Jun 05 18:31 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and now we know better | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | tuened out walsh and mako-hill were among the ousters <- im still not sure. theres a lack of evidence | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | neither signed. | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | now im not saying there isnt something fishy | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | walsh opposed | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not the fst vote | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but the whole "bring back rms" thing | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | yeah | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | thats significant | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | m,ako-hill just said the whole tbhing was very painful for him to watch | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | and hugely disappointing | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | m,ako-hill just said the whole tbhing was very painful for him to watch <- thats a fair comment actually | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | its also vague | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | yes | Jun 05 18:32 |
| matey | it could really fall on either side | Jun 05 18:32 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe like johns he chose to not engage | Jun 05 18:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | because he was torn from two directions | Jun 05 18:33 |
| matey | makos best work imo was in two parts | Jun 05 18:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | we'll never know | Jun 05 18:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he's barely active anymore | Jun 05 18:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in planet debian | Jun 05 18:33 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | very rarely blogs | Jun 05 18:33 |
| matey | he did an article called "in defence of negativity" that i think resulted from an exchange we had in whats now "the fediverse" | Jun 05 18:33 |
| matey | youll note its circa 2010 | Jun 05 18:33 |
| matey | he also did an article saying that when free software isnt (technically) better, its still free, and that matters | Jun 05 18:34 |
| matey | free software is often (technically) better, but putting too much stress on that is an open source thing, which he brought counterpoint to | Jun 05 18:35 |
| matey | i dont have any faith left in mako or walsh | Jun 05 18:35 |
| matey | and ive been criticising cc forever | Jun 05 18:35 |
| matey | i dont have the information i need to heavily critique either of them | Jun 05 18:35 |
| matey | the most damning thing i know other than the timing of their resignations (which i agree is fishy) is your mention of walshs vote | Jun 05 18:36 |
| matey | thats something at least | Jun 05 18:36 |
| matey | im not sure if i put it in the treachery category | Jun 05 18:36 |
| matey | but i wouldnt throw it casually into the non-treachery category either | Jun 05 18:37 |
| matey | fortunately, theres a "fishy" category | Jun 05 18:37 |
| matey | and the vote against bringing stallman back is pretty damned significant | Jun 05 18:37 |
| matey | but its also news to me, and as much as i prefer to have proportional responses to treachery | Jun 05 18:37 |
| matey | i dont like to leap before looking | Jun 05 18:38 |
| techrights-news | A TCP client in Racket scheme gemini://blinkyshark.chickenkiller.com/2022-06-05-tcp-racket.gmi | Jun 05 18:38 |
| matey | in fact most of the things i feel strongly about i took years to get there | Jun 05 18:38 |
| matey | years | Jun 05 18:38 |
| matey | people associate strong views with impulsive reactions | Jun 05 18:38 |
| matey | the thing is, you can have strong views without jumping to them haphazardly | Jun 05 18:38 |
| matey | mincer has obviously felt strongly about humanity for a long time | Jun 05 18:39 |
| matey | and why not? humanity has been fucking up a lot for a long time | Jun 05 18:39 |
| techrights-news | "Recently, I've got my hands on an Asus Eee PC 1215B from 2011, dual core CPU at 1 GHz, and 2GB ram, upgraded it to 4GB. I've decided to move to it as my main computer, coming from a decently powerful workstation. Here's my experience." gemini://altesq.net/~masqq/gemlog/2022-06-05.gmi | Jun 05 18:39 |
| matey | though im more prepared to defend our species | Jun 05 18:39 |
| matey | at least its potential. i agree with him on the fuckups | Jun 05 18:39 |
| matey | theyre bad, to say the least | Jun 05 18:40 |
| matey | i maintain that at one point in time, trees were worse than hitler | Jun 05 18:40 |
| matey | until mammals came along | Jun 05 18:40 |
| techrights-news | "Critics often attack psychoanalysis as being "unscientific", or, under the Popperian criteria, "unfalsifiable". Some defenders will counter that, as it is the study of subjectivity itself, psychoanalysis cannot (and should not) be scientifically objective." gemini://nomadpengu.in/thoughts/zenfreud/ | Jun 05 18:40 |
| matey | im not saying hitler was any less bad than his worse critics tell you | Jun 05 18:41 |
| matey | only that trees were happy to exterminate everything else if need be | Jun 05 18:41 |
| matey | fortunately mammals came along and created balance through diversity | Jun 05 18:41 |
| matey | but trees were fucking dicks | Jun 05 18:41 |
| matey | now theyre ok-- they no longer rule | Jun 05 18:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | <matey> people associate strong views with impulsive reactions | Jun 05 18:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's a cultural thing | Jun 05 18:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | some see that as vulgarity | Jun 05 18:42 |
| matey | as for what bolsonazi is doing to them, im strongly against it | Jun 05 18:42 |
| matey | we need those trees | Jun 05 18:42 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | because the other people might "react" some way | Jun 05 18:42 |
| matey | people are sensitive to the wrong things sometimes | Jun 05 18:42 |
| matey | they miss the point | Jun 05 18:42 |
| matey | like when they think "master" needs to be "main" because nazis said its racist! | Jun 05 18:43 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> because the other people might "react" some way <- indeed | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in some culture raising youyr voice is OK | Jun 05 18:43 |
| matey | giving reactionaries too much credit is a very common, stupid problem | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | even throw your hands all over the plce | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not British culture | Jun 05 18:43 |
| matey | when stupidity about a thing is extremely common, sometimes you have to "grade on a curve" and understand that society just isnt ready to be smart about it | Jun 05 18:43 |
| matey | i mean, you should still hold them to a higher standing | Jun 05 18:43 |
| matey | standard-- but with reasonable expectations | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | making a society more docile | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | may mean making is more "civil" | Jun 05 18:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | RAF bombs cities | Jun 05 18:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but we are polite | Jun 05 18:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | very polite | Jun 05 18:44 |
| matey | or realistic expectations | Jun 05 18:44 |
| matey | you cant cause evolution just by shouting "EVOLVE GODDAMNIT!" | Jun 05 18:44 |
| matey | it takes TIME | Jun 05 18:44 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> making a society more docile <- docile is a good word for it | Jun 05 18:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | protests are impolite | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | malleable | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> not British culture <- lol | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | british culture is a hoot | Jun 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "why is this man angry?" | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | not only the comedy | Jun 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the angry man need to get less angry | Jun 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "come the fuck down" | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> protests are impolite <- and in danger of being unethical! | Jun 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | (tone-policing) | Jun 05 18:45 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe he is angry that his wife got shot | Jun 05 18:45 |
| matey | he must be unreasonable | Jun 05 18:46 |
| matey | anger makes logic impossible. he must be an irrational person. | Jun 05 18:46 |
| matey | its never rational to be angry! | Jun 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | be jubilant | Jun 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | jubilee | Jun 05 18:46 |
| matey | maybe he is angry that his wife got shot <- thats illogical too | Jun 05 18:46 |
| matey | it wont bring her back | Jun 05 18:46 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | with andrew's mom | Jun 05 18:46 |
| matey | he should be more reasonable | Jun 05 18:46 |
| techrights-news | 8 Best Free and Open Source Linux Presentation Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165647 | Jun 05 18:47 |
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| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> jubilee <schestowitz_TR2> with andrew's mom <- without getting the reference, this is pretty funny | Jun 05 18:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "gates haters" | Jun 05 18:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "cranks" | Jun 05 18:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "jealous" | Jun 05 18:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | musk needs the same | Jun 05 18:47 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | musk critics being spun as conspiracy nuts | Jun 05 18:48 |
| techrights-news | NanoPi R5S preview - Part 2: Ubuntu 20.04 (FriendlyCore) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165648 | Jun 05 18:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NanoPi R5S preview - Part 2: Ubuntu 20.04 (FriendlyCore) | Tux Machines | Jun 05 18:48 | |
| techrights-news | HexChat compiled in OpenEmbedded ⚓ https://bkhome.org/news/202206/hexchat-compiled-in-openembedded.html ䷉ Source: bkhome | Jun 05 18:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | HexChat compiled in OpenEmbedded | Jun 05 18:49 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I should be reasonable too | Jun 05 18:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and stop criticising ibm | Jun 05 18:49 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | more like "bkuhnhehim[m]" | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | how can anywone get aupset at him? | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he's stoooo reasonable | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that he can disrupt people's irc activity | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for insulting ibm | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "bkuhnhehim[m]" was likely on some IBM database | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or maybe relatives of "bkuhnhehim[m]" | Jun 05 18:50 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not for being he/him | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but a kuuhn | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he's also IWB | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the other high-level IBM exec | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | who used his jewishness to cover up with IBM did in WW2 | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he would talk to the media | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | about how it never happened | Jun 05 18:51 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> I should be reasonable too <schestowitz_TR2> and stop criticising ibm <- you should definitely criticise the fuck out of ibm | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and he's a "berg" | Jun 05 18:51 |
| matey | whether its (considered) "reasonable" or not | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | so who are you to ssay he's antisemite | Jun 05 18:51 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | heck, maybe ibm hired and promoted him just for that alone | Jun 05 18:52 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | got its money's worth | Jun 05 18:52 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | jewish man denying ibm was helping hitler | Jun 05 18:52 |
| matey | when people say its unreasonable, its more of a circular argument | Jun 05 18:52 |
| matey | prove its not unreasonable! | Jun 05 18:52 |
| matey | but, if you criticise ibm, and you care about strategy | Jun 05 18:52 |
| matey | hopefully you recognise EVERY threat thats just as big | Jun 05 18:53 |
| matey | if you dont, you could end up pushing a double standard-- whether its intentional or otherwise | Jun 05 18:53 |
| matey | and the problem with that is, it would provide help to something just as bad as what youre criticising | Jun 05 18:53 |
| techrights-news | 10 Best Open Source Image Processing Libraries in 2022 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165649 | Jun 05 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Open Source Image Processing Libraries in 2022 | Tux Machines | Jun 05 18:53 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | techrights has some of the iwb clips | Jun 05 18:53 |
| matey | potentially. | Jun 05 18:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they still pretend to have no docs to prove what they had done | Jun 05 18:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they are obv. lying | Jun 05 18:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or deleting things post hoc | Jun 05 18:53 |
| matey | <schestowitz_TR2> jewish man denying ibm was helping hitler <- thats a real shame | Jun 05 18:54 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like rewmoving museum items | Jun 05 18:54 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | because those have the ibm logo on theem | Jun 05 18:54 |
| matey | iwb? | Jun 05 18:54 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and that gets people to -gasp - think ibm was part of the genocide | Jun 05 18:54 |
| matey | they still pretend to have no docs to prove what they had done <- theyve basically bribed people to shut up about it | Jun 05 18:54 |
| matey | paying reparations on the grounds that no one holds them accountable beyond that | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | what a great deal for them | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | they pay money they would lose anyone | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | and dont lose face they would otherwise lose in the process | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | s/anyone/anyway | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | and that gets people to -gasp - think ibm was part of the genocide <- seeing one of the hollerith machines used by the nazis was a formative experience for me | Jun 05 18:55 |
| matey | and i DO hold ibm accountable to it | Jun 05 18:55 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/irving-wladawsky-berger | Jun 05 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mitsloan.mit.edu | Irving Wladawsky-Berger | MIT Sloan | Jun 05 18:56 | |
| matey | directly. | Jun 05 18:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | he also brought gnu/linux to ibm | Jun 05 18:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the positive side | Jun 05 18:56 |
| matey | i have some ibm equipment actually. none of which i bought from ibm, but still | Jun 05 18:56 |
| matey | and its a small amount too | Jun 05 18:56 |
| matey | but more importantly i didnt buy it from ib | Jun 05 18:56 |
| matey | ibm | Jun 05 18:56 |
| matey | he also brought gnu/linux to ibm <- like lamb to the slaughter | Jun 05 18:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "So, sometime in 2002 I went with my colleague to a suite at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York City where the interview was being filmed, and after some friendly chatter, proceeded to do the interview. Mark Achbar, one of the directors of the documentary was asking the questions. | Jun 05 18:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | We talked for about an hour about the topics they had sent us, and it all went rather well. But all of a sudden the nature of the questions changed when Achbar asked me if a company was responsible for its actions in the past. I replied that this was too broad a question to answer in general, but if he could be more specific about a concrete issue, perhaps we can shed some light on it. He then proceeded to ask me about IBM’s r | Jun 05 18:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ole in the Holocaust, especially about the allegations made in a 2001 book on the subject by Edwin Black. | Jun 05 18:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 18:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | https://blog.irvingwb.com/blog/2009/09/a-tale-of-deception.html | Jun 05 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.irvingwb.com | Irving Wladawsky-Berger: A Tale of Deception | Jun 05 18:57 | |
| matey | when the livestock changes the slaughterhouse let me know | Jun 05 18:57 |
| matey | edwin black is like the smedley butler of tech | Jun 05 18:58 |
| matey | thats a big deal | Jun 05 18:58 |
| matey | partially refuted-- then broadly defended | Jun 05 18:58 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Finally, having gotten this tale of deception off my chest by writing about it in my blog, it is time to move on . . . | Jun 05 18:58 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 18:58 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "move on" | Jun 05 18:58 |
| matey | ibm really wanted you to think he was a tabloid journalist | Jun 05 18:58 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | "So, why is it that after all these years I am writing in my blog about this unfortunate incident instead of just letting sleeping dogs lie? " | Jun 05 18:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | microsoftism | Jun 05 18:59 |
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| schestowitz_TR2 | "yes, we did some bad things" | Jun 05 18:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "time to move on" | Jun 05 18:59 |
| matey | i think hes done everything he needs to | Jun 05 18:59 |
| matey | its time for others to pick up where he left off | Jun 05 18:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | NewMicrosoft(TM) | Jun 05 18:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "loves Linux" | Jun 05 18:59 |
| matey | "So, why is it that after all these years I am writing in my blog about this unfortunate incident instead of just letting sleeping dogs lie? " <- heh | Jun 05 18:59 |
| matey | "yes, we did some bad things" <- well, theyre dead! | Jun 05 18:59 |
| matey | several million of htem | Jun 05 18:59 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "well, he's dead" | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "next question!" | Jun 05 19:00 |
| matey | meet the new boss | Jun 05 19:00 |
| matey | same as the old boss | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | comment: | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " " | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Hi. It seems that this situation is now repeating itself in the call for reparations for IBM's alleged activities in S.Africa during apartheid. | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Hi. It seems that this situation is now repeating itself in the call for reparations for IBM's alleged activities in S.Africa during apartheid. | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 19:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | wow | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I reject Irving Wladawsky-Berger accusations that before, during, or after my interview with him for The Corporation he was “deceived” by me or anyone involved in making the film. In making The Corporation we sought to treat everyone we interviewed fairly, both out of respect and in order to inform our audience as thoroughly as we could. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | The basis of his erroneous allegations is that he was "tricked" because we discussed many issues relating to corporate social responsibility but in the final film used only portions regarding evidence of IBM's role in streamlining the mass slaughter of Jews in WWII. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | There was no deception. Our letter of invitation to IBM accurately described the film as a "multi-faceted discussion" addressing the corporation's "history and role in modern society" at a time when "the critics of corporations are increasingly vocal." Mr. Wladawsky-Berger chose to speak as an IBM representative about the responsibilities corporations bear to society. In that context it was reasonable to explore the evidence of IBM | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 's role in the Holocaust and offer IBM the opportunity to address it. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I agree that we were “nicely chatting”, as he suggests, but that did not alter the fundamental nature of the interview that he had agreed to do - namely a professional interview for the purpose of a documentary film and television series. If Mr. Wladawsky-Berger was insufficiently prepared to answer some questions, he was free to say so, suggest we speak with someone else, and leave it at that. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I “high-fived” no one after Mr. Wladawsky-Berger’s interview. We didn't think it went particularly well and neither did IBM. A PR representative for IBM called afterwards asking us not to use the interview – unique in our experience of interviewing numerous, senior, corporate representatives about controversial subjects for The Corporation. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | As a filmmaker, I was seeking the strongest, most coherent material. So I offered to drop Mr. Wladawsky-Berger's interview if IBM allowed us, as we initially requested, to speak with IBM's CEO, or to talk to a representative who could more knowledgeably refute or explain the record of IBM’s relationship with Nazi Germany. IBM refused. We used Mr. Wladawsky-Berger's interview because IBM allowed no one else to tell its side of the | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | story. I believe IBM and not the filmmakers let Mr. Wladawsky-Berger down. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Mr. Wladawsky-Berger draws the conclusion that the filmmakers "clearly cared nothing about" the subjects of "medical research, the environment and education" because his comments on them were not used. If he watched the whole film, beyond the part featuring him, he would see others address those subjects. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | We were very interested in Mr. Wladawsky-Berger’s responses to all our questions, which were carefully researched and prepared. We did not waste his and our time with an hour-long show knowing in advance which of his answers we would ultimately use. | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | We worked on the film for six years and interviewed over seventy people for times ranging from thirty-seven minutes to over four hours. Thirty interviews were discarded completely. We asked many interviewees the same questions about corporate responsibility. The most articulate, relevant, revealing, explicit, dynamic, illustrative, incisive answers, both supporting and criticizing corporations, made it into the film. We had no one | Jun 05 19:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | other than Mr. Wladawsky-Berger to speak for IBM. | Jun 05 19:02 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, Now Musk says nobody is being fired and they're hiring MOAR people at Tesla. | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Incidentally, we did not say that CBC offered any funding or broadcast for The Corporation. Five other reputable Canadian broadcasters supported the project, four of them educational and one religious, as well as Canadian federal and provincial government agencies. | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Despite my original reaction to the interview, in the edited film I found Mr. Wladawsky-Berger helpful in illuminating aspects of the moral morass that surrounds the historical actions of a publicly-traded business corporation. I remain grateful for his participation and am disappointed at his response and allegations. | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Regards, | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Mark Achbar" | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "You used and manipulated the opportunity, thus you behaved exactly (by using the same misleading principles) as the Nazis... | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | See? | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you expose what the nazis did | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and that makes you a nazi | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | wow | Jun 05 19:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ""IBM has a long and rich history of doing much good in the world. I wish the film makers had focused on that. | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | LOL | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "we had MANY clients" | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like... | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Hitler also did a lot of good" | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "stop focusing only on bad things putin did" | Jun 05 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Musk behaves like someone who was using cocaine. | Jun 05 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | It destroys impulse control even if you stop at some point. | Jun 05 19:03 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | " | Jun 05 19:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I am happy that Mr. Wladawsky-Berger has got this off his chest, however those who posted comments comparing Achbar's tactics to the Nazis are being ludicrous, the desperate energy used to protect IBM at all costs is typical of people who will never admit that reality doesn't care about our little constructs, about our little ideas of wrong and right, but that we should; Black's work is not discredited, Mr. Wladawsky-Berger as a go | Jun 05 19:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | od corporate soul was never interested enough in the history of his company to get to the bottom of this and IBM's behavior in this context is unsurprising. Corporations have only adopted morals since its coming into fashion, the bottom line and ethical behavior have not been compatible for very long. Getting to the truth is too uncomfortable for the vast majority of us." | Jun 05 19:04 |
| matey | "the desperate energy used to protect IBM at all costs is typical of people who will never admit that reality doesn't care about our little constructs" | Jun 05 19:05 |
| matey | + | Jun 05 19:05 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | I did not know he blogged about it | Jun 05 19:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's very illuminating | Jun 05 19:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | esp. the part where they try to say Black and others are like Hitler | Jun 05 19:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for opposing Hittler | Jun 05 19:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and naming the enablers | Jun 05 19:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | typical insane projection tactics | Jun 05 19:09 |
| matey | esp. the part where they try to say Black and others are like Hitler <- LOL | Jun 05 19:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Techrights is literally NAZI... for calling out IBM | Jun 05 19:09 |
| matey | who said (edwin) black is like hitler? | Jun 05 19:09 |
| matey | best project tactic ive ever seen | Jun 05 19:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2022/01/18/ibm-censorship/ | Jun 05 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Someone Is Very Desperate to Knock My Account Off Twitter | Techrights | Jun 05 19:09 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | deployform roy | Jun 05 19:10 |
| matey | or worst, depending on your definition | Jun 05 19:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | to protect the nazis | Jun 05 19:10 |
| matey | Techrights is literally NAZI <- even i woudlnt go that far | Jun 05 19:10 |
| matey | oh no, roy should absolutely have a platform | Jun 05 19:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | (I'm the one who put in the paperwork for dead relatives BTW) | Jun 05 19:10 |
| matey | who said youre nazi? and who said edwin black is like hitler? | Jun 05 19:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | btw | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | there are severla movies about ibm | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | black just wrote a book | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the evidence is cas clear as daylight | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | never mind the book | Jun 05 19:11 |
| matey | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Yow_BJeb8TI | Jun 05 19:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Guy Fawkes vs Che Guevara. Epic Rap Battles of History. - Invidious | Jun 05 19:11 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they could make a "IBM Holocxaust museam | Jun 05 19:11 |
| matey | my ancestors fled germany right before the war | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | with lots of stuff in there, other than peprs | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Dehomag Museum :-) | Jun 05 19:11 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "welcome, my name is Lenny" | Jun 05 19:11 |
| matey | the evidence is cas clear as daylight <- indeed | Jun 05 19:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Eins process" | Jun 05 19:12 |
| matey | i wish they would | Jun 05 19:12 |
| matey | seeing the hollerith machine is powerful | Jun 05 19:12 |
| matey | you look at it and (i) think: this is why we need privacy. | Jun 05 19:12 |
| matey | "Eins process" <- he only has the disposition of a nazi | Jun 05 19:12 |
| matey | like the soup nazi | Jun 05 19:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | http://techrights.org/2021/03/28/ibm-and-rms-incompatible/ | Jun 05 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and RMS Are Not Compatible | Techrights | Jun 05 19:13 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | IBM canceled RMSA | Jun 05 19:13 |
| matey | i dont think hes a white supremacist or eugenicist | Jun 05 19:13 |
| matey | just a cunt | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | while at the same time pushing these | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for profit | Jun 05 19:13 |
| matey | but im not above joking about the connection | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | theey make billions off of covid | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and now the data is not being purged | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | there are "naughty lists" | Jun 05 19:13 |
| matey | IBM canceled RMS <- i was there | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | people who rjected experiments | Jun 05 19:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | turned own rathgere | Jun 05 19:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | temporarily | Jun 05 19:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | carlin: "irhg this way" | Jun 05 19:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "right | Jun 05 19:14 |
| matey | now the data is not being purged <- why would it be purged | Jun 05 19:14 |
| matey | when they went to such dishonest means to collect it in the first place | Jun 05 19:14 |
| matey | i dont mean "plandemic" | Jun 05 19:14 |
| matey | i mean "all your data will really help with a solution" | Jun 05 19:14 |
| matey | it wont, for reasons even you said | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "disobedience lists" | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | matey: which solution? | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the startung sdolution? | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | anyway, jokes aside | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | godwin unhappy | Jun 05 19:15 |
| matey | heh | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | rather, godwin gets ego boost | Jun 05 19:15 |
| matey | no solution | Jun 05 19:15 |
| matey | just an excuse | Jun 05 19:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | if aaron s stallman is really rems's brother, that's intereting | Jun 05 19:16 |
| matey | im happy to call godwin a nazi | Jun 05 19:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | fsf was always soft on ibm | Jun 05 19:16 |
| matey | only ironically, but nonetheless | Jun 05 19:16 |
| matey | tongue in cheek | Jun 05 19:16 |
| matey | if aaron s stallman is really rems's brother, that's intereting <- is it? i think we talked about this | Jun 05 19:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | person x signs rms petition | Jun 05 19:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | person x goes back to deploying for ICE | Jun 05 19:17 |
| matey | i dont think its that interesting. ill be happy to admit if i prove wrong about this | Jun 05 19:17 |
| matey | fsf was always soft on ibm <- this is true for obvious reasons | Jun 05 19:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | fsf started when ibm was the evil one | Jun 05 19:17 |
| matey | ibm controls gcc (gdb too) but no one talks about it | Jun 05 19:17 |
| matey | they dont believe it | Jun 05 19:17 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and apple was using that | Jun 05 19:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | suse also plays a big role | Jun 05 19:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | maybe ibm and suse cooperate on more than just POWER | Jun 05 19:18 |
| matey | its more forkable than llvm | Jun 05 19:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | suse from nuremberg | Jun 05 19:18 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | suse from Nuremberg | Jun 05 19:18 |
| matey | fsf started when ibm was the evil one <- ibm was "always" evil | Jun 05 19:18 |
| matey | at least 20th century onward | Jun 05 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I officially changed parties to "Republican" on a permanent and ongoing basis until I inform the Lake County clerk otherwise. | Jun 05 19:18 |
| matey | before that they were literally something else | Jun 05 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | I got to thinking and I couldn't find any reason why not to. | Jun 05 19:19 |
| matey | maybe better, maybe not-- but not "ibm" | Jun 05 19:19 |
| matey | hollerith tabulating company? | Jun 05 19:19 |
| matey | still a terrible name | Jun 05 19:19 |
| matey | hollerith i mean | Jun 05 19:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | https://lunduke.substack.com/p/the-time-suse-the-german-linux-company | Jun 05 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | Even after the Democrats fuck up so bad they start losing states like Illinois, they still won't learn anything by being in the dog house for a couple of years. | Jun 05 19:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lunduke.substack.com | The time SUSE, the German Linux company, banned mentioning Jewish holidays. | Jun 05 19:19 | |
| matey | whether it was already terrible or became terrible under ibm | Jun 05 19:19 |
| matey | probably both though | Jun 05 19:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hollerith just did tabulation | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that's like accusing einstein of nuking people | Jun 05 19:20 |
| matey | good old lundpuke | Jun 05 19:20 |
| matey | the duke of lun | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but the machine is associate with his name and invention | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | hollerith afaik didn't do anything evil | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | based on what you can read about hollerith | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | CTR/IBM was evil from the start | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | they even put a fraud in charge | Jun 05 19:20 |
| matey | i havent accused him of anything | Jun 05 19:20 |
| matey | other than "probably both" | Jun 05 19:20 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | who was convicted of crimes | Jun 05 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | The national Republican Party needs a reboot. Even Ronald Reagan was able to do a bipartisan compromise on Immigration and was at least willing to work out an arrangement where he didn't just break the law and dare anyone to stop him or start bashing them. Many people got a path to a Green Card or citizenship under Reagan. | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | i dont claim to have anything on him. "probably both" was an openly cynical generalisation | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | he was probably wealthy | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | and probably connected to something nasty | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | but nothing im aware of specifically | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | either way ibm dragged that name through the mud later | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | which may not be holleriths fault | Jun 05 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know where it all went so wrong that Trump happened. Even Bush was fairly tolerant of immigrants. | Jun 05 19:21 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DaemonFC: wae are talking about ibm | Jun 05 19:21 |
| matey | IBM was evil from the start <- i dont have data on that either | Jun 05 19:22 |
| matey | not that it would surprise me | Jun 05 19:22 |
| DaemonFC | IBM was one of the companies Trump damaged with his random and bizarre immigration policies. | Jun 05 19:22 |
| matey | i know watson and his son were nazi dicks | Jun 05 19:22 |
| matey | dont mention the war! | Jun 05 19:23 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Jun 05 19:23 | |
| DaemonFC | It's companies like IBM and Microsoft and Apple who don't care about "America's problems". | Jun 05 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | America has a huge problem. They aren't paying their taxes and college tuition is sky high and not guaranteed to lead to any results. | Jun 05 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | But H1-B visas are leaving too many Americans unemployed and getting angrier about it when you combine the college troubles. | Jun 05 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Because they're not STUPID. They see that nobody helps them get an education because it's easier to open the floodgates and let Chinese and Indian immigrants who already have a degree into the country . | Jun 05 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody's worried about them. Carlin said "A country that threw them overboard 30 fucking years ago.". | Jun 05 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | And nothing has happened since then except another 14 years of stagflation. | Jun 05 19:25 |
| DaemonFC | As a matter of policy, I just refuse to go see any "foreign" doctors. And it's because I've noticed three things. 1. The same thing is going on there. 2. They have the bedside manner of a tarantula. 3. They will refuse to give you medical treatment, and if they do it's more likely to be incompetent treatment and they will not listen to your concerns. 4. There is a communications barrier. | Jun 05 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | Well, I said three things. | Jun 05 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I thought of one more (communications barrier) while I was typing. | Jun 05 19:27 |
| DaemonFC | I mean, like, you go there because your blood pressure is through the roof and the damned doctor is basically "Not my circus, not my monkeys! Try eating less salt!" and then that doesn't help and your food tastes like shit, and oh here's the bill. | Jun 05 19:28 |
| DaemonFC | And so that was the moment I made the decision "Take a real good look at faces and names next time." and you know what? I got medicine. | Jun 05 19:29 |
| DaemonFC | This isn't even the first time something like this has happened. My aunt, who was a nurse for over 35 years, had a Masters Degree in nursing, complained day in and day out about foreign doctors coming in and botching everything and letting the nurses sort it out. | Jun 05 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | She unloaded about that after I complained about my psychiatrist not listening to me. | Jun 05 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I can't imagine that you're getting good tech workers with these H1-Bs, and you know, the reason I say that is because I've overheard people who are in charge of reviewing that "cheap" code that came in from India and China and they complain it's more work to fix it than it is to write it in the first place. | Jun 05 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | But to some bean counter, it seems like a savings. | Jun 05 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | But you can't say something like that outside of a pseudonym or some Garrett out there will hunt you down like a dog and try to cancel you I'm sure. | Jun 05 19:32 |
| techrights-news | Links 05/06/2022: Bombadillo Fork for Spartan, Fedora Test Week for Linux 5.18 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/05/bombadillo-fork-for-spartan/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/05/bombadillo-fork-for-spartan/ | Jun 05 19:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 05/06/2022: Bombadillo Fork for Spartan, Fedora Test Week for Linux 5.18 | Techrights | Jun 05 19:33 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, We can't see the uEFI code that actually runs on the LOL! No! Vo computers. | Jun 05 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | But there are typos and plenty of Engrish in the setup program. | Jun 05 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | If they're so sloppy that they don't even care what the user interface looks like then what does the code look like? | Jun 05 19:34 |
| techrights-news | Embedded and Devices Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165650 | Jun 05 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Embedded and Devices Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 05 19:34 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165651 | Jun 05 19:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 05 19:34 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, Mandy came out here and complained that I hooked up my Bose stereo by getting a 20 foot audio cable and using command strips to run it along the ceiling and back down to the laptop. | Jun 05 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | "Why don't you just get BLUETOOTH!? OMG this looks bad!" | Jun 05 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't look that bad. | Jun 05 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't look as bad as Bluetooth sounds. | Jun 05 19:35 |
| techrights-news | Gulag never deletes anything, but is leaves the possibility for YOU to delete YOUR access to the data https://www.maketecheasier.com/recover-deleted-text-messages-android/ | Jun 05 19:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Recover Deleted Text Messages on Android - Make Tech Easier | Jun 05 19:35 | |
| DaemonFC | You were saying FM headphones that connect to your stereo the other day, and I wish I still had those! | Jun 05 19:35 |
| techrights-news | Google deleting some data is like... Microsoft obeying the law | Jun 05 19:36 |
| techrights-news | U.S.-Canadian firm Sandvine fosters Russian censorship infrastructure https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Jun 05 19:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now | Jun 05 19:36 | |
| DaemonFC | $20 at freaking Aldi and they sound better than Bluetooth does even if you can give it a perfect signal, and the entire Bluetooth stack can't take a dump, refuse to connect, and crash until you reboot the computer. | Jun 05 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | So there's that. | Jun 05 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | Intel's Bluetooth chipsets are even worse than their processors somehow. | Jun 05 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | AppleInsider posted an article about how when you add in retail, Apple's average pay is the lowest vs. Microsoft and Google. I mentioned that Microsoft shut down their retail operations because, I suppose, no reason to give demos of "Miracast" when the only image it successfully transmits to the television set, in the store, where Microsoft set up the entire demonstration, is a frame of the Blue Screen of Death followed by the entire Surface | Jun 05 19:38 |
| DaemonFC | laptop hard freezing. | Jun 05 19:38 |
| techrights-news | Pull hardware timestamping subsystem from Thierry Reding https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=2981436374177f78539b026ce5bcbab8c251818e | Jun 05 19:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Jun 05 19:38 | |
| DaemonFC | There's absolutely no reason to buy this shit. | Jun 05 19:39 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "Microsoft shut down their retail operations because" | Jun 05 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | They've managed to make computing today work worse than their Windows 2000 operating system did more than 20 years ago. | Jun 05 19:39 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Same reason US left Kabul | Jun 05 19:39 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the criminals don't want you to face them | Jun 05 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | I spent those 20 years saying the Taliban were still there and waiting for us to leave so they could take the entire country back. | Jun 05 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | Gonad the Barbarian mocked me for that. | Jun 05 19:40 |
| DaemonFC | He keeled over 5 years short of witnessing exactly that. | Jun 05 19:41 |
| DaemonFC | The US was in control of Iraq the first time and left Saddam Hussein there and alive, inexplicably. | Jun 05 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Their military was so badly outdated and poorly trained that it could hardly even fight us in the early 90s. We came back, their government collapsed in a couple of months, and supposedly that government was in a position to make WMDs somehow. | Jun 05 19:44 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▂▅▄▅▆▄▅▄▂▅▇▆▅▆▇▅▆▆▄▇▆▆▆▄▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 28.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 24.16▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 05 20:59 |
| sergay | Im thinking about putting a graphic card inside a bottle and use it as an external gpu | Jun 05 21:04 |
| sergay | have you seen who much they ask for an external gpu case? | Jun 05 21:05 |
| sergay | im rolling my owne | Jun 05 21:05 |
| sergay | what kind of psu should i use? you can use any off the shelf one ? | Jun 05 21:06 |
| sergay | https://nairatips.com/diy-egpu/ | Jun 05 21:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nairatips.com | DIY eGPU 101: How to Build an External GPU by Yourself in 2022 | Jun 05 21:07 | |
| sergay | The best thing is that the DIY eGPU will cost you a lot less in contrast to the eGPU that you will buy from the market. right on | Jun 05 21:07 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/22060350 | Jun 05 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/plbpxjq0bl291.jpg created on 2022-06-03 17:44:12.986229 | Jun 05 21:17 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-04.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-05.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Jun 05 21:30 |
| techrights-news | 10 Best Ubuntu Apps for Everyone in 2022 [Part 2] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165652 | Jun 05 21:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 10 Best Ubuntu Apps for Everyone in 2022 [Part 2] | Tux Machines | Jun 05 21:33 | |
| techrights-news | "We are back with our usual monthly update! Boiling Steam looks at the latest data dumps from ProtonDB to give you a quick list of new games that work (pretty much?) perfectly with Proton since they were released in May 2022 – all of them work out of the box or well enough with tweaks..." https://boilingsteam.com/top-15-new-games-to-play-on-linux-with-proton-june-2022-edition/ | Jun 05 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Top 15 New Games to Play on Linux with Proton – June 2022 Edition - Boiling Steam | Jun 05 21:35 | |
| techrights-news | MiTubo 1.1: screensaver inhibitor • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165653 | Jun 05 21:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MiTubo 1.1: screensaver inhibitor | Tux Machines | Jun 05 21:45 | |
| techrights-news | Hulu's 12 Monkeys (no spoilers) gemini://gemini.ctrl-c.club/~stack/gemlog/2022-06-05.monkeys.gmi | Jun 05 21:46 |
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| techrights-news | "Compounding the issue was the fact that, at the time, I was staying in a hotel room (attending CDL school downstate), with no personal transportation, in an area with such poor walkability I couldn’t even walk to the neighborhood grocery store less than a mile away without putting my actual life in danger" gemini://november.smol.pub/vegan | Jun 05 21:47 |
| techrights-news | An Evernote-Compatible Sticky Notes App for Linux Desktops • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165654 | Jun 05 21:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | An Evernote-Compatible Sticky Notes App for Linux Desktops | Tux Machines | Jun 05 21:47 | |
| sergay | https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-build-an-external-gpu-for-4k-video-editing-vr-and-gaming/ | Jun 05 21:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to build an external GPU for 4K video editing, VR, and gaming | TechRepublic | Jun 05 21:49 | |
| sergay | GPU: 200 dollars. | Jun 05 21:50 |
| sergay | Case: 220 dollars. | Jun 05 21:50 |
| techrights-news | 10 Fun Free and Open Source Real-Time Strategy Games - LinuxLinks ⚓ https://www.linuxlinks.com/free-open-source-real-time-strategy-games/ ䷉ Source: LinuxLinks | GNU | Linux | FreeSW | Jun 05 21:50 |
| sergay | PSU: 30 dollars. | Jun 05 21:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Fun Free and Open Source Real-Time Strategy Games - LinuxLinks | Jun 05 21:50 | |
| sergay | the case is more expensive that the gpu WTF | Jun 05 21:51 |
| techrights-news | Linux Plumbers Conference: Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: RISC-V https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/05/microconferences-at-linux-plumbers-conference-risc-v/ | Jun 05 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lpc.events | Microconferences at Linux Plumbers Conference: RISC-V – Linux Plumbers Conference 2022 | Jun 05 21:54 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165655 | Jun 05 21:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 05 21:54 | |
| psydruid | the finances of such systems don't make sense anymore | Jun 05 21:55 |
| techrights-news | "NixOS recently had a new release, and it's a big one! Now, NixOS comes with an easy-to-use graphical installer (calamares). This could be a real game changer because the traditional NixOS installation is a barrier to entry for novice NixOS users. So I'm going to try out the new NixOS calamares installer and see if it works!" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ck4J2Faa7Fc | Jun 05 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | NixOS Is The Power User Distro (Now With An Easy Installer!) - Invidious | Jun 05 21:55 | |
| psydruid | but few people have found the clue yet | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | GPU costs like my whole laptop | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | Case: costs like my whole laptop | Jun 05 21:56 |
| psydruid | exactly | Jun 05 21:56 |
| MinceR | ah yes, the elusive systemd-dependent "power user" | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that's an empty case with a little gadget inside | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that gadget costs like 6 raspiberry pi 4 | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | 24 processor cores | Jun 05 21:56 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | at ~5 watts each | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | per pi | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | or 1 watts cores | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | more efficient that this gpu | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | *than | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | is the keyboard a "gaming" keyboard? | Jun 05 21:57 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | like one with LIGHTS in it? That costssss $150? | Jun 05 21:58 |
| psydruid | the economics will completely break down when fruit pi 5/6/7 etc. catch up with the latest lava lake systems | Jun 05 21:58 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the PSU alone costs like a modern SBC | Jun 05 21:58 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | it's just a PSU | Jun 05 21:59 |
| psydruid | that's why I would only consider this for very high-end high-density compute | Jun 05 21:59 |
| psydruid | 16+ core CPU or something | Jun 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | I'm shampooing the livingroom carpets finally. Eww. | Jun 05 22:00 |
| psydruid | not the typical gamer desktop | Jun 05 22:00 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | "gaming" = polygon renderer | Jun 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | By the looks of the dirty water, I'm going to be at it for a while before I can put the chemicals in. | Jun 05 22:00 |
| psydruid | my power bill is higher than your power bill | Jun 05 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | My electric runs between $30 and $100 depending on the month. | Jun 05 22:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not bad~! | Jun 05 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think the cats pissed anywhere but they may have tracked litter? | Jun 05 22:01 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | $30 is insanely low | Jun 05 22:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | for 2 people | Jun 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Was getting a whiff of cat piss sometimes. | Jun 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Don't know where it came from so I just ordered a gallon and a half of carpet shampoo and that's on the way. | Jun 05 22:02 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | here, juist standing charges alone would amount to about the same | Jun 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Makes about 50 gallons of solution. | Jun 05 22:02 |
| DaemonFC | Fuck it, lets napalm. | Jun 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Jun 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz_TR2> here, juist standing charges alone would amount to about the same | Jun 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's going to get cheaper. Electric costs in other states have soared and it's cheaper to buy nuclear power we have a surplus of. | Jun 05 22:03 |
| *psydruid reuses desktop cases from 20+ years ago | Jun 05 22:03 | |
| DaemonFC | So by law, ComEd has to give us a discount for the next year. | Jun 05 22:03 |
| DaemonFC | They went with coal. | Jun 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Whoopsie | Jun 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | So now Indiana gets to pay my electric bill. :) | Jun 05 22:04 |
| MinceR | shampoo for my real friends and real poo for my sham friends! | Jun 05 22:04 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you to enerrgy providers: do I get a dicount if I SIT DOWN? | Jun 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | Even FM sounds really good on this radio. | Jun 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | I was skeptical. | Jun 05 22:04 |
| DaemonFC | This seems like something they'd have been showing off at Epcot in the 80s or 90s. | Jun 05 22:05 |
| DaemonFC | Haters gonna hate. | Jun 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DaemonFC: I've hacked together a solution this morning. I now have two sound sources | Jun 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | Those audiophile forums are beyond ridiculous. | Jun 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | didn't have to buy anything, just get creative with the cables | Jun 05 22:06 |
| DaemonFC | The Bose is a very pleasant system to listen to. | Jun 05 22:06 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | an old (2011) monitor is now a speaker | Jun 05 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, You can probably find the Altec Lansing FX3022 somewhere still. | Jun 05 22:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | those are overpriced brands | Jun 05 22:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and cults that orbit them | Jun 05 22:07 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | same for sonos | Jun 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | That was a good system if you want decent sound without taking up a ton of space and avoid the separate subwoofer. | Jun 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you pay fore their patents and marketing departmenrsa | Jun 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz_TR2, I got mine for like $60-70. | Jun 05 22:08 |
| techrights-news | Games: Proton and Real-Time Strategy (RTS) Title • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165656 | Jun 05 22:08 |
| DaemonFC | As a refurb. It was working fine 12 years later. | Jun 05 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Proton and Real-Time Strategy (RTS) Title | Tux Machines | Jun 05 22:08 | |
| DaemonFC | You can probably find one used super cheap somewhere. | Jun 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | no need | Jun 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you could get a refurb for half that price | Jun 05 22:08 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and better | Jun 05 22:09 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | without the 'cult surplus' | Jun 05 22:09 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think even $300 is expensive for a system if it's a really nice one. | Jun 05 22:10 |
| DaemonFC | There's definitely crazier things people buy than Bose stereos. Like Macs and AirPOS. | Jun 05 22:10 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | you listen to it yourself | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | that's the first sig you might need headphones | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | not speakers | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | but personal speakerrs | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | neat to the ears | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | second, consider thw quality of your source | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | liike FM radio | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and sometimes mono | Jun 05 22:12 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | at some page you realise you're just beign a 'masturbating monkey' over sound | Jun 05 22:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and fake audiophile | Jun 05 22:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | and your sound might, at best, be a nuisance to someone in the home or on the other side of the wall | Jun 05 22:13 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | fwiw, people who buy home cinemas and large projectors for 1-2 people to watch are conned | Jun 05 22:14 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | the whole purpose of large screen (with same res) is to let more people watch them at once | Jun 05 22:15 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | otherwise you can just move closer | Jun 05 22:15 |
| MinceR | headphones are uncomfortable | Jun 05 22:16 |
| DaemonFC | As for the people on the other side of the wall.....They bug me with shit that isn't even music. | Jun 05 22:16 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | mimi: depends | Jun 05 22:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | MinceR: ^ | Jun 05 22:19 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | in winter they can help | Jun 05 22:19 |
| techrights-news | Deepin 20.6 Run Through - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=iRBU8ldZmaw ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Jun 05 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Deepin 20.6 Run Through - Invidious | Jun 05 22:25 | |
| techrights-news | "It's one thing to install Linux on someones computer if they ask for some support or ask for help but please stop installing linux on other peoples computer just for the fun of it" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5dk2h25BpqM | Jun 05 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Stop Installing Linux On Other Peoples Computer - Invidious | Jun 05 22:26 | |
| techrights-news | "On behalf of the Rakudo development team, I’m very happy to announce the June 2022 release of Rakudo #156. Rakudo is an implementation of the Raku1 language." https://rakudo.org/post/announce-rakudo-release-2022.06 | Jun 05 22:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rakudo.org | Rakudo compiler, Release #156 (2022.06) - Rakudo Compiler for Raku Programming Language | Jun 05 22:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it smells a lot better in here. | Jun 05 22:31 |
| techrights-news | Videos: Installing GNU/Linux, Deepin 20.6 Walkthrough, Calamares in NixOS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165657 | Jun 05 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: Installing GNU/Linux, Deepin 20.6 Walkthrough, Calamares in NixOS | Tux Machines | Jun 05 22:32 | |
| techrights-news | Tails 5.1 arrives with a fix for a serious JavaScript security vulnerability http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165633#comment-33889 | Jun 05 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 5.1 is out | Tux Machines | Jun 05 22:32 | |
| DaemonFC | Floor looks better. | Jun 05 22:32 |
| DaemonFC | All those places the cat barfed and I like "99%" cleaned it up or spilled a bit of coffee. | Jun 05 22:33 |
| DaemonFC | Gone. | Jun 05 22:33 |
| techrights-news | "If your requirements are predominantly for people with audial impairments, try Orca’s screen reader for desktops like MATE, GNOME, and Unity. The Sonar GNU/Linux project is great for accommodating users with visual difficulties" https://hbr.org/2022/06/3-strategies-for-developing-more-accessible-software | Jun 05 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hbr.org | 3 Strategies for Developing More-Accessible Software | Jun 05 22:39 | |
| SomeH4x0r | someone tell matey that digdeeper's IRC bridge is back, if my memory fails | Jun 05 22:39 |
| SomeH4x0r | hope they read logs | Jun 05 22:39 |
| techrights-news | "The second prize of Rs 15,000 went to Snehlata Shirude and Manish Joshi from KBC North Maharashtra University, Jalgaon, for their paper, titled “A successful recipe for localisation: A case of GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program).”" https://www.freepressjournal.in/indore/indore-cere-concludes-at-elite-city-b-school-prof-sarin-gets-iim-indores-lifetime-achievement-award | Jun 05 22:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | Indore: CERE concludes at elite city B-school, Prof Sarin gets IIM Indore’s lifetime achievement award | Jun 05 22:40 | |
| techrights-news | Villupuram-based software company gets Silicon Valley call • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165658 | Jun 05 22:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Villupuram-based software company gets Silicon Valley call | Tux Machines | Jun 05 22:41 | |
| *sergay has quit (Quit: Connection closed) | Jun 05 22:46 | |
| techrights-news | About a week before Microsoft attacked Novell (and later killed it with a patent collusion) https://www.osnews.com/story/16309/novell-announces-pcs-preloaded-with-suse-linux/ | Jun 05 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Novell Announces PCs Preloaded with SUSE Linux – OSnews | Jun 05 22:52 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft is not a software company. It's organised crime that tries to come across as legit activities. While assassination of actual competition persists. | Jun 05 22:53 |
| techrights-news | Those companies work for the NSA; they do not care about "Open Source" or about security https://www.cybersecuritydive.com/news/open-source-security-Washington/623731/ | Jun 05 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cybersecuritydive.com | Tech giants pledge multimillion down payment to secure open source | Cybersecurity Dive | Jun 05 22:54 | |
| techrights-news | "An Indian wedding, a 12-year-old girl with the drumming skills"... don't tell the queen's son, Andrew. He might want to screw with her. And then pay our tax money to make it go away (also see Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein) https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2022/06/05/platinum-jubilee-celebrations-brilliantly-british-fit-queen/ | Jun 05 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.telegraph.co.uk | The Platinum Jubilee celebrations were brilliantly British – and fit for a Queen | Jun 05 22:57 | |
| techrights-news | [Old] Fedora 36 released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164681#comment-33890 | Jun 05 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux 36 Is Here with GNOME 42, Linux Kernel 5.17, and Wayland for NVIDIA Users | Tux Machines | Jun 05 22:59 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▄▅▂▅▄▅▆▄▅▄▂▅▇▆▅▆▇▅▆▆▄▇▆▆▆▄▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 28.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁█▁▂▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 24.16▕ swarm size (avg): 0 ⟲ | Jun 05 22:59 |
| techrights-news | "A few months have passed since we released ScummVM 2.5.1. No matter if you expect the scorching heat of the upcoming summer or freezing blizzards in winter (depending on your favorite hemisphere): it’s release time again!" https://www.scummvm.org/news/20220605/ | Jun 05 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scummvm.org | ScummVM :: Home | Jun 05 23:00 | |
| techrights-news | 15 Best Online Learning Platforms ⚓ https://www.nanowerk.com/15-Best-Online-Learning-Platforms.php ䷉ Source: nanowerk | Jun 05 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nanowerk.com | 15 Best Online Learning Platforms | Jun 05 23:11 | |
| techrights-news | LOL! "Metaverse, AI, Sustainability" ... any more buzzwords??? https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1742550/save-the-date-globant-invites-to-the-tech-n-fest-2022 | Jun 05 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Save the Date: Globant Invites - GuruFocus.com | Jun 05 23:12 | |
| techrights-news | Regulation has not existed in decades. The military contractors and oligarchs do anything they wish... https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/health-tech/oracle-gets-european-approval-28m-cerner-deal-set-close-next-week | Jun 05 23:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/health-tech/oracle-gets-european-approval-28m-cerner-deal-set-close-next-week ) | Jun 05 23:12 | |
| techrights-news | "Proton is building a privacy-centric alternative to the Google software ecosystem" https://www.techradar.com/features/the-quest-to-cut-google-out-of-your-digital-life | Jun 05 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The quest to cut Google out of your digital life | TechRadar | Jun 05 23:14 | |
| techrights-news | Clown provider... for clowns with guns https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/02/social-good-cloud-provider-blackbaud-takes-millions-from-the-nra/ | Jun 05 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-‘Social good’ cloud provider Blackbaud takes millions from the NRA – TechCrunch | Jun 05 23:14 | |
| techrights-news | Company that fires HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF ITS OWN TECH WORKERS ... "to provide STEM job training and tackle talent shortage"???? https://www.wsbtv.com/news/ibm-partners-with-cau-provide-stem-job-training-tackle-talent-shortage/TAJLZIQHRNCVVBN72F5UVKCVVU/ http://techrights.org/wiki/IBM | Jun 05 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wsbtv.com | IBM partners with CAU to provide STEM job training and tackle talent shortage – WSB-TV Channel 2 - Atlanta | Jun 05 23:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM - Techrights | Jun 05 23:15 | |
| techrights-news | Totally fake approach to security; marketeering in place of substance https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/legit-security-brings-a-needed-layer-of-protection-to-the-sdlc-pipeline | Jun 05 23:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | Legit Security Brings a Needed Layer of Protection to the SDLC Pipeline - Digital Journal | Jun 05 23:17 | |
| techrights-news | Two criminal enterprises, Accenture and Microsoft (engaged in corruption, even colluded against GNU/Linux in Munich), use "sustainability" as a buzzword for reputation laundering https://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/22/06/w27558150/accenture-microsoft-and-avanade-expand-partnership-to-help-organizations-tackle-their-greatest-sus | Jun 05 23:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Accenture, Microsoft and Avanade expand partnership to help organizations tackle their greatest sustainability challenges - Benzinga | Jun 05 23:18 | |
| psydruid | Master addresses concerns about slave shortage | Jun 05 23:22 |
| DaemonFC | That's better. | Jun 05 23:23 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | let's ask edwin black what he thinks of jim whitehurst | Jun 05 23:24 |
| DaemonFC | eBay emailed me. | Jun 05 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | They said that the Wave Radio II that I was bidding on that mysteriously disappeared for like $64 is back and I have a second chance at $159. LOL | Jun 05 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not paying $159 for someone's 16 year old used model that's two versions behind when a refurb of the current model is $279. | Jun 05 23:35 |
| DaemonFC | It doesn't even have a CD player. | Jun 05 23:36 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | seems like you spend money on a load of junk tbh | Jun 05 23:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | instead of making a fianncial cushion | Jun 05 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | Have one. | Jun 05 23:43 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | now that walmart is layinf off workers and shuttingf store | Jun 05 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | They just remodeled this store and they hire more people. | Jun 05 23:43 |
| DaemonFC | They're also in the middle of ditching DoorDash because so many people are complaining and canceling Walmart+ because of it. | Jun 05 23:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | your mom can become amazon reseller | Jun 05 23:44 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DoorDash should go into the garage business | Jun 05 23:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | shipping youir cars to the mechanics and back tio you | Jun 05 23:48 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | ValetDash | Jun 05 23:48 |
| DaemonFC | We wouldn't be any better off renting a more expensive apartment or taking a bus. | Jun 05 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | But yes, car ownership is expensive. | Jun 05 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | Not the least of which because an able-bodied illegal immigrant panhandler ran out in front of my car today and I had to slam on the brakes and honk at him. | Jun 05 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | He's there every day jogging, literally jogging, back and forth begging for money. | Jun 05 23:49 |
| DaemonFC | If you can do that, you can get a job. I know there are people here hiring illegal immigrants. | Jun 05 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | There was another one a while back that finally got himself hit by a car and then the American citizen driver probably went to jail and then people were begging for money to send his body back to Mexico. | Jun 05 23:50 |
| DaemonFC | This place is another world. | Jun 05 23:50 |
| techrights-news | Torvalds a short while ago: This attached patch builds cleanly for me, doing the above. But see a few comments about those atomicity issues..." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/304 | Jun 05 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [PATCH] net/bluetooth: fix erroneous use of bitmap_from_u64() | Jun 05 23:51 | |
| techrights-news | Dev Resurrects Unity-Era Feature for Ubuntu Dock – But Will It Be Accepted? • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165659 | Jun 05 23:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Dev Resurrects Unity-Era Feature for Ubuntu Dock – But Will It Be Accepted? | Tux Machines | Jun 05 23:51 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165660 | Jun 05 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Jun 05 23:52 | |
| DaemonFC | People who break laws get along easier than the rest of us somehow. | Jun 05 23:52 |
| DaemonFC | They get out of prison and have a job and an apartment the same day. | Jun 05 23:52 |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165661 | Jun 05 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Jun 05 23:52 | |
| schestowitz_TR2 | DaemonFC: you were arrested years ago | Jun 05 23:53 |
| schestowitz_TR2 | just to remind you | Jun 05 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | Then they wonder why the rest of us finally go over the edge. | Jun 05 23:53 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/stevewinwood/timeisrunningout.html | Jun 05 23:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steve Winwood - Time Is Running Out Lyrics | AZLyrics.com | Jun 05 23:54 | |
| DaemonFC | Good lyrics for what's going on today. | Jun 05 23:55 |
| techrights-news | Some last-minute work by Torvalds: "Since this clashed with the Kbuild cleanups I just merged, I looked at it and threw up in my mouth a little." https://lkml.org/lkml/2022/6/5/270 | Jun 05 23:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lkml.org | LKML: Linus Torvalds: Re: [GIT pull] objtool/urgent for v5.19-rc1 | Jun 05 23:55 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz_TR2> just to remind you | Jun 05 23:57 |
| DaemonFC | Falsely accused by Democrat judges and a RINO prosecutor and paraded around in court over a misdemeanor because I'm white while they let people setting fires, vandalizing, looting, murdering, raping, and watching child porn go or give them 90 days in county at the worst. | Jun 05 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | This place is a fucking joke. | Jun 05 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | Part of the Big Lie is that the judges are neutral and you have rights. | Jun 05 23:59 |
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