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| psydruid | if macOS wasn't total junk before, it definitely is now | Apr 06 00:05 |
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| psydruid | I would just scrap the entire operating system | Apr 06 00:06 |
| MinceR | apple has been total garbage ever since they decided to make the apple III | Apr 06 00:07 |
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| MinceR | also, the lisa | Apr 06 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Bethesda games are such a shitfest that it's easier to ZIP the folder I installed them into than to install them again once I've distro hopped and remember exactly what I did to make them work the last time all over again. | Apr 06 00:11 |
| DaemonFC | Just unpack them somewhere with all of the hacks and point Lutris at them. | Apr 06 00:11 |
| MinceR | these already show off what current crApple does: extremely shitty design (as exemplified by the self-melting apple III) and extreme disdain for their customers (as exemplified by the designed-for-idiots lisa) | Apr 06 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 36 Beta works pretty well on the 2016 Lenovo Yoga 900 ISK2. | Apr 06 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | I might try it for realsies on this ThinkBook. | Apr 06 00:12 |
| DaemonFC | They do tend to have good releases and bad releases, and when they're bad, they're really bad. | Apr 06 00:15 |
| DaemonFC | No punishment for pushing out a bad release when you don't have to maintain it for 5 or 10 years. | Apr 06 00:15 |
| MinceR | i don't think there's ever going to be a good release of fedora since they switched to systemd | Apr 06 00:15 |
| kingoffrance | fedora had a little curlie / right in the middle of its forehead / when it was good it was very very good / and when it was bad it was horrid | Apr 06 00:16 |
| kingoffrance | </looney tunes chipmunks> | Apr 06 00:18 |
| activelow | RedHat9 was the first Linux i tried, and the reason to not use Linux (year 2002) | Apr 06 00:19 |
| activelow | why would i want to use this, if i didn't want a Windows style system? | Apr 06 00:19 |
| activelow | it was OpenBSD which lured me into, the benefits of a *nix | Apr 06 00:20 |
| kingoffrance | yeah, that is how i was with mandrake. went to freebsd | Apr 06 00:20 |
| DaemonFC | Red Hat 9 was the one where they did that "release" of GCC, right? | Apr 06 00:20 |
| activelow | it was all there, a clean build system, easy installation, some security | Apr 06 00:20 |
| psydruid | Fedora Core 1 made me switch all computers at home to Slackware | Apr 06 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | The one that the FSF had to make a statement about, because Red Hat pulled it out of the development repository. | Apr 06 00:21 |
| psydruid | and I've never run it since outside of QEMU | Apr 06 00:21 |
| kingoffrance | not that i had any problem with mandrake, but there is "i want to learn" and "i want someone to do it for me" distros | Apr 06 00:21 |
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| DaemonFC | "If you compile anything with this, it's unlikely that it will work later unless you use static linking." | Apr 06 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | Which is exactly what people who did use it had to do, for ten YEARS. | Apr 06 00:21 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 00:22 |
| kingoffrance | you talking about gcc 2.96, or was that different? | Apr 06 00:22 |
| activelow | slackware, don't remember why i played with this; iirc linux had some benefit with hardware support, and i followed "linux from scratch" with hardening patches, and then fiddled this into slackware packages | Apr 06 00:22 |
| DaemonFC | yeah..... | Apr 06 00:23 |
| DaemonFC | gcc296-compat LULZ | Apr 06 00:23 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR │ matey: did I use those actual words? | Apr 06 00:23 |
| matey | i can find the quote | Apr 06 00:23 |
| matey | i actually spent a minute looking but ill find it later | Apr 06 00:23 |
| matey | it was in the past 6-7 months (this year has flown by, 1/3 in already) | Apr 06 00:24 |
| activelow | with gcc-4.7/g++ none of the GTK desktop stuff is available (although GTK isn't written in c++, i might add); don't free brave enough to try gcc2.96 | Apr 06 00:24 |
| activelow | *feel | Apr 06 00:24 |
| activelow | with RedHat 9 the RPM package management was annoying, it is a huge burden | Apr 06 00:25 |
| kingoffrance | well i just didnt know because red hat 9 ....they reset versino numbers at some point, since rhel 4 rhel 5 rhel 6 ...not sure where the "enterprise" is now .....lol | Apr 06 00:25 |
| kingoffrance | so, there was the old "red hat 9" and i guess another one coming up now lol | Apr 06 00:25 |
| activelow | yes, the old RedHat9 | Apr 06 00:25 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Apr 06 00:25 |
| activelow | doubt anything has changed since then, concerning RPM style package management | Apr 06 00:26 |
| MinceR | enterprise is what you need in order to have people stupid enough to decide to run that crap | Apr 06 00:26 |
| kingoffrance | enterprise is when you want to pay someone to take the fall | Apr 06 00:26 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Apr 06 00:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 00:26 |
| psydruid | and that someone still doesn't know what he's doing | Apr 06 00:27 |
| activelow | the benefit of any RedHat for practical use is: LDAP/Kerberos, if it is implemented correctly with administrative tools | Apr 06 00:29 |
| activelow | since this is what admins want, in practice, which they get, with IBM Wintel: LDAP/Kerberos ("active directory") | Apr 06 00:30 |
| activelow | in combination with groupware, Outlook, Exchange and all that, which RedHat too focused on | Apr 06 00:32 |
| activelow | and where am I nowadays? back to mutt-mailer for more than 5 years. | Apr 06 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora doesn't ship with a program for Mail. | Apr 06 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Oh well. That's easily fixed I suppose. | Apr 06 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | Never could figure out why Evolution is so slow at syncing IMAP folders. | Apr 06 00:34 |
| matey | when i downloaded wikipedia (en) compressed, it was about 15gb | Apr 06 00:34 |
| matey | that was less than 10 years ago | Apr 06 00:34 |
| DaemonFC | It's 96 GB or so right now I'm told. | Apr 06 00:35 |
| matey | compressed? | Apr 06 00:35 |
| matey | i know compressed isnt a fixed rate, but that sounds like more growth than i would expect | Apr 06 00:35 |
| matey | i mean if there were 25 billion people on earth sure | Apr 06 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | Obviously the sum of SPAM....errrrr human knowledge has expanded more than six fold. | Apr 06 00:35 |
| matey | im guessing 96gb is the uncompressed size | Apr 06 00:35 |
| DaemonFC | Compressed. | Apr 06 00:36 |
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| matey | wow. | Apr 06 00:36 |
| activelow | reminds me, i wanted to host a wikipedia dump locally, already downloaded this, yet coultn't find how to _quickly_ administer this | Apr 06 00:36 |
| matey | what i learned while playing with english wikipedia was this | Apr 06 00:36 |
| matey | databases serve a purpose. | Apr 06 00:36 |
| matey | hehehehe | Apr 06 00:36 |
| matey | i was able to create many tens of thousands of files, in the same folder, no problem (ext3) | Apr 06 00:37 |
| matey | but then DELETING many tens of thousands of files after that, it was having a fun time | Apr 06 00:37 |
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| DaemonFC | I was told about 5 years ago I think that Silverblue (immutable file system) was the future of Fedora. | Apr 06 00:37 |
| DaemonFC | Yet here we are with Fedora 36 about to go out and it's still off to the side. | Apr 06 00:38 |
| psydruid | jfs was good at deleting files | Apr 06 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | JFS was okay. | Apr 06 00:38 |
| matey | i absolutely chose the wrong partition for the job | Apr 06 00:38 |
| psydruid | xfs was good at corrupting files without a good ups | Apr 06 00:38 |
| matey | yeah xfs was just crap for everything | Apr 06 00:38 |
| DaemonFC | XFS is not the default file system in anything but RHEL. | Apr 06 00:38 |
| matey | fuck xfs with a rusty metal traffic cone | Apr 06 00:39 |
| matey | no but ubuntu pushed it for a while, and it made me hate trisquel a little more | Apr 06 00:39 |
| DaemonFC | They did? | Apr 06 00:39 |
| activelow | i was hitting a bug, with nilfs2-utils (aarch32 in userspace), running on top of aarch64 kernel, which is the cleanerd segfaults with this setup. | Apr 06 00:39 |
| matey | it was the default in ubuntu a few years ago | Apr 06 00:40 |
| matey | ext-something with xfs | Apr 06 00:40 |
| matey | so you couldnt resize. what a bitch. | Apr 06 00:40 |
| activelow | with a pure aarch64 nilfs2 was rather pleasent, yet cannot use it currently, because i need aarch32 | Apr 06 00:40 |
| matey | or maybe you could expand but not reclaim | Apr 06 00:40 |
| matey | i stuck to ext3 | Apr 06 00:40 |
| activelow | as far as filesystems are concerned, a log-structured such as nilfs2 had top priority over any other | Apr 06 00:41 |
| matey | with the above mentioned caveats if youre playing with wikipedia :) | Apr 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | systemd-coredump has a user now. | Apr 06 00:41 |
| DaemonFC | As well as systemd-timesync. | Apr 06 00:41 |
| psydruid | systemd-annihilated | Apr 06 00:41 |
| matey | does the user have root privileges? can you use it over ssh? does it have a hardcoded pw? does lennart have a backdoor? | Apr 06 00:41 |
| matey | i mean another backdoor | Apr 06 00:42 |
| DaemonFC | I recall Fedora making way for all of this junk by lowering the uid for the first user on the system a while back on new installs. | Apr 06 00:42 |
| kingoffrance | i remember reading about xfs when it was being ported......wikipedia says the guaranteed I/O feature needed special hardware, so apparently is gone. im not sure what besides that it does better than other FS. that would seem the killer feature | Apr 06 00:42 |
| kingoffrance | *special hardware back on irix | Apr 06 00:42 |
| matey | xfs is one of the most annoying things ubuntu ever did, but not as bad as unity lens | Apr 06 00:42 |
| activelow | the killer feature filesystems is log-structured, implemented with nilfs2 | Apr 06 00:42 |
| matey | i probably hate it more than most people | Apr 06 00:42 |
| kingoffrance | i just mean, why was it ported if the seemingly killer feature left out? | Apr 06 00:42 |
| kingoffrance | "enterprise" wanted it? who knows | Apr 06 00:43 |
| matey | maybe they were trying to court someone they failed to get attention from <- kingoffrance | Apr 06 00:43 |
| matey | ubuntu tried to do that a few times i think. like with amazon :) | Apr 06 00:43 |
| matey | "oh, you default to google search huh? hold my beer!" | Apr 06 00:44 |
| kingoffrance | thats the only thing i used to hear about "enterprise" hardware, that (paraphrase cray) anyon can make a fast processor, a fast system is another story. | Apr 06 00:44 |
| matey | no shit | Apr 06 00:44 |
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| MinceR | it takes cray to cripple it with windows? | Apr 06 00:56 |
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| bnchs__ | systemd-suckmydick(d) | Apr 06 00:58 |
| bnchs__ | systemd-suckmy(d)ick | Apr 06 00:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▃▄▅██▃▅▇▇▅▇██▃▂▆▅▆▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▅▆▄▆▃▄█▁ avg(k/sec) 33.38 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▂▂▇█▂▁▂▁█▄▅▁██▂▂▅███▁▁▂▂▁▂▃▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 78.66▕ swarm size (avg): 579.55 ⟲ | Apr 06 00:59 |
| activelow | sysvinit and openrc were somehwat enterprise style already too | Apr 06 00:59 |
| activelow | which emerged from a bureaucratic apparatus, which could afford to program and maintain this | Apr 06 01:00 |
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| activelow | reminds me of IPSec, i don't know, something like this doesn't emerge inside a hacker brain with limited sanity | Apr 06 01:01 |
| psydruid | x86 hardware is usually quite unbalanced and even loses out to ARM when it comes to memory bandwidth | Apr 06 01:01 |
| psydruid | I guess the only reason why it still exists is Vista | Apr 06 01:02 |
| activelow | the reason it exists is: video games | Apr 06 01:02 |
| kingoffrance | well i always thought ipsec sounded nice (encrypt everything), but never saw it used anywhere. i will take your word for it | Apr 06 01:03 |
| psydruid | it's good for running video games made for Wintel DRM | Apr 06 01:03 |
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| activelow | i think, again, IBM Wintel implemented full IPSec integration, including LDAP/Kerberos for this... which is rare | Apr 06 01:04 |
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| activelow | somehow, i consider wireguard redundant too, SSH can cover almost all use cases for this | Apr 06 01:06 |
| activelow | except for an NFS equivalent | Apr 06 01:06 |
| activelow | currently, i am using NFS over wireguard vpn, although i preferred to skip this entirely too | Apr 06 01:07 |
| activelow | and i do not want FUSE, required for sshfs/mounts | Apr 06 01:07 |
| activelow | with kernel 2.4 sshfs was implemented without FUSE, didn't manage yet to reintegrate it, it was known as shfs | Apr 06 01:08 |
| activelow | if i could, i would ditch wireguard and NFS support from kernel | Apr 06 01:09 |
| lightweight | that could be a nice setup for my headslessAIbox | Apr 06 01:15 |
| lightweight | httpshttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Resume-Spec-Boot-CPU | Apr 06 01:20 |
| activelow | ^ gladly in-order cortex ARM doesn't need any of the mitigations | Apr 06 01:22 |
| activelow | the reason Intel does, is just a symptom of their bricked products | Apr 06 01:22 |
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| psydruid | Intel Brick™ | Apr 06 01:23 |
| activelow | and it is interesting too, comparing in-order and out-of-order CPU on ARM (cortex a53 with cortex a72), the out-of-order pipeline is far less benefitial to performance than it justified to implement such a design prone to security issues | Apr 06 01:24 |
| psydruid | why was there never another in-order core after Cortex-A55? | Apr 06 01:25 |
| psydruid | or is there? | Apr 06 01:25 |
| activelow | don't know, isn't the A55 the latest offering from ARM? | Apr 06 01:25 |
| psydruid | A510 perhaps | Apr 06 01:25 |
| DaemonFC | For some reason, Totem in Fedora 36 can't play AV1+Opus in a Matroska container. | Apr 06 01:25 |
| psydruid | ARMv9 core | Apr 06 01:26 |
| DaemonFC | It both crashes Totem and the thumbnailer for Nautilus. | Apr 06 01:26 |
| lightweight | you should had stiked to ubuntu | Apr 06 01:26 |
| activelow | the out-of-order CPUs from ARM may not be considered "RISC" anymore anyway; don't know why ARM introduced A72 and similar | Apr 06 01:26 |
| lightweight | you couldnt even play mp3 on fedora back then | Apr 06 01:27 |
| lightweight | another good one from fedora https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-37-Deprecate-BIOS | Apr 06 01:31 |
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| lightweight | fedora isnt supposed to be used as daily driver distro | Apr 06 01:32 |
| lightweight | its just making users lab rats | Apr 06 01:33 |
| lightweight | to test their shit | Apr 06 01:33 |
| lightweight | or to get people to upgrade to redhat | Apr 06 01:33 |
| lightweight | they are just MS wannabes | Apr 06 01:35 |
| activelow | i think, RedHat and similar intended to _compete_ with Wintel | Apr 06 01:35 |
| activelow | however, this isn't what GNU/Linux was, a competitor to target consumer and corporate interests | Apr 06 01:35 |
| activelow | and to be fair with them, RedHat is a competent comptitor; nonetheless it isn't the type of system I want to work with myself, or administer for anyone else | Apr 06 01:37 |
| lightweight | they are also in love with gnome | Apr 06 01:37 |
| activelow | furthermore, if RedHat isn't of interest to a particular minority of hackers, then they loose them, and too loose against what they intended to compete with | Apr 06 01:38 |
| activelow | because IBM Wintel cannot be competed with based on technical and quality criteria | Apr 06 01:38 |
| activelow | not to mention Android; _never_ used any device where this is installed | Apr 06 01:39 |
| MinceR | yeah, you're supposed to pay ibm/deadrat for rHELL instead | Apr 06 01:40 |
| MinceR | or just get a few years ahead of their quest for the "modern" and use Backdoors or crapOS instead | Apr 06 01:41 |
| activelow | i did _remove_ the relevant parts, which originated from IBM/RedHat: ldap/kerberos/glibc/PAM/virtualization ... none of this remained | Apr 06 01:42 |
| activelow | i do not want this, not free of charge, not as a present, and certainly not pay for such | Apr 06 01:42 |
| activelow | i rather disconnect entirely from the internet, and hack with Z80 era stuff | Apr 06 01:42 |
| psydruid | GNU/Linux is just like proprietary UNIX back in the day | Apr 06 01:43 |
| psydruid | something corporate and not to be used by hackers | Apr 06 01:43 |
| matey | RedHat is a competent comptitor; nonetheless it isn't the type of system I want to work with myself, or administer for anyone else <- you can say that again | Apr 06 01:43 |
| activelow | yet, even at that time, of Z80 era, this is when IBM Wintel PC emerged (i8086), and crushed free and opensource (down to hardware realm) | Apr 06 01:46 |
| activelow | which was the time, when proprietary BIOS became the "real OS" | Apr 06 01:46 |
| activelow | now we got UEFI | Apr 06 01:46 |
| activelow | it is OK, if IBM Wintel do their business, problem is they impose their habits and products globally | Apr 06 01:48 |
| activelow | it is not at least possible anymore, to apply for some jobs, without any of their products | Apr 06 01:48 |
| matey | unjustifiably extensive firmware installation | Apr 06 01:49 |
| matey | [2~even at that time, of Z80 era, this is when IBM Wintel PC emerged (i8086), and crushed free and opensource (down to hardware realm) <- intel-ectual property | Apr 06 01:50 |
| mjg59_ | BIOS is not an OS and is not the "real OS" whatever that even means | Apr 06 01:50 |
| activelow | greetings mjg59_ | Apr 06 01:50 |
| mjg59_ | And also conceptually dates back to CP/M and, uh, the Z-80 | Apr 06 01:50 |
| activelow | i did some reading, historically, it was CP/M itself which initialized the hardware, without a "BIOS" | Apr 06 01:51 |
| activelow | and this is exactly what an operating system does: initialize the hardware | Apr 06 01:51 |
| activelow | that's why, i consider u-boot loader, an operating system too | Apr 06 01:51 |
| mjg59_ | BIOS in CP/M is the abstraction layer between the OS and the hardware, exactly the role it played on the PC | Apr 06 01:51 |
| matey | BIOS is not an OS <- seems like a quibble when the os contains routines that can replace the bios, and the bios replace toggling in initialisation routines that led to similar toggling for programming | Apr 06 01:51 |
| matey | i mean wherever you draw the line, it seems like a quibble | Apr 06 01:52 |
| matey | "this is new hampshire" "this is massachusettes" "this is vermont" and yet the borders used to be in different places. | Apr 06 01:52 |
| matey | even when they were still called that | Apr 06 01:53 |
| mjg59_ | Ironically, what made the PC less portable and gave IBM an initial lockin advantage is that people started accessing the hardware directly rather than using the BIOS | Apr 06 01:53 |
| mjg59_ | Hence the distinction between "PC Compatible" and "DOS Compatible" in the 80s | Apr 06 01:54 |
| matey | but that was surely by design and thanks to microsoft | Apr 06 01:54 |
| mjg59_ | You could boot DOS fine on machines that weren't PC compatible | Apr 06 01:54 |
| mjg59_ | Microsoft certainly did write code that had strong PC assumptions (Flight Simulator was the canonical example for years), but they were hardly alone | Apr 06 01:55 |
| matey | did caldera lock in anything via program routines? (vs licenses for example) | Apr 06 01:55 |
| matey | caldera/sco/opendos | Apr 06 01:55 |
| mjg59_ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RM_Nimbus is an example of a DOS compatible machine that was widespread in UK schools for years | Apr 06 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | RM Nimbus - Wikipedia | Apr 06 01:56 | |
| matey | dos compatible was probably easier to get away with than pc compatible | Apr 06 01:56 |
| matey | since dos compatible wasnt a moving target, ibm was, and ibm sued for patents (microsoft didnt want to back then) | Apr 06 01:57 |
| mjg59_ | Oh yes - you just had to implement the BIOS interface, you didn't need to use any specific hardware | Apr 06 01:57 |
| *mjg59_ heads out for a while | Apr 06 01:57 | |
| matey | but if you did it in a chip you could face patent lawyers and if you did it with software, you were clever | Apr 06 01:57 |
| matey | ibm was very keen on sending lawyers into say, compaq over such things | Apr 06 01:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▄▃▄▆▃▅▃▁▂▁▁▁▁▅▃▄▆▆▅▅▅▇▆▇▆▄▂▅▆▆▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 30.06 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▂▂▃▂▁▁█▁█▁█▂█▁▂▂▁▁▁▂▁▁██▁▂▂▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 78.48▕ swarm size (avg): 305.30 ⟲ | Apr 06 01:59 |
| matey | because one was a patent issue and (at the time) the other wasnt, it might have actually been ibms lawyers that inadvertently pushed microsoft (and maybe tandy) to work around ibm using software instead | Apr 06 01:59 |
| matey | this would also imply that ibms lockin was the cause and not "Ironically, what made the PC less portable and gave IBM an initial lockin advantage" the effect | Apr 06 02:01 |
| activelow | IBM+KPMG ... it's not a hacker thing, in this realm, they call it "business" | Apr 06 02:02 |
| activelow | KPMG with their "trust fund" (Treuhand), it was them who dismantled and destroyed east-german seminconductor manufacturing | Apr 06 02:02 |
| activelow | 30years later they realized, this may not have been a good idea, and dump trillions of cash | Apr 06 02:03 |
| activelow | now they want to bless east-german with Intel Fabs, F-35 for sale, and Israeli Arrow-3 missile defense: NO THANKS. | Apr 06 02:03 |
| activelow | german military reported, their radio equipment wasn't suitable anymore, to communicate with allies, Eurofighter (68K iirc) reported as defunct | Apr 06 02:04 |
| activelow | NASA itself couldn't source sparei8086 parts for their Space Shuttle anymore | Apr 06 02:05 |
| activelow | looking forward to the product-lifecycle of SpaceX | Apr 06 02:05 |
| matey | systemd-spacexd | Apr 06 02:05 |
| matey | instead of releasing the booster it waits for the ignition to disingage, gets stuck in a loop and if youre lucky, drops (not literally!) to a shell | Apr 06 02:06 |
| matey | but thats ok, theres still enough fuel for the maneuvering thrusters to carry out half the mission | Apr 06 02:07 |
| matey | the problem is always upstream | Apr 06 02:07 |
| matey | "its probably a configuration issue. what kernel version is it?" | Apr 06 02:08 |
| activelow | spacex will manage, yet i doubt this era of computing will be any more long-time reliable than the last one | Apr 06 02:09 |
| matey | i honestly think its daft for space programmes to rely on such overcomplicated software | Apr 06 02:10 |
| matey | when reliability is a matter of life and death, everything should be fucking stripped down | Apr 06 02:10 |
| matey | you dont need xfce-notify popping up with shit when youre trying to get into orbit | Apr 06 02:11 |
| MinceR | broadcasts "a stop job is running" and then falls out of the sky like a rock | Apr 06 02:11 |
| activelow | the lunar lander program was what micro-soft competed with, written in BASIC | Apr 06 02:11 |
| matey | a stop job is running <- i dont know why it couldnt reach 8.8.8.8 | Apr 06 02:11 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 02:12 |
| activelow | to the moon, with 4Bit ALU | Apr 06 02:12 |
| matey | /me tries to figure out how long the ethernet cables needs to be | Apr 06 02:13 |
| matey | "oh heres the problem-- hw accelleration isnt supported for this model of gpu anymore?" | Apr 06 02:14 |
| matey | "hw accelleration?" | Apr 06 02:14 |
| MinceR | acceleration via rocket hardware | Apr 06 02:14 |
| matey | "yeah, you need accellerated graphics to make an init system work-- everyone knows that!" | Apr 06 02:14 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 06 02:14 |
| MinceR | there was a time when windows couldn't run without a GUI, i guess that's the "modern" thing | Apr 06 02:15 |
| matey | acceleration via rocket hardwar <- well yes but its a catch 22 because you need the accelleration to start the rocket and you need the rocket to provide the accelleration | Apr 06 02:15 |
| matey | so once again the problem is upstream (or we will say it is and see if nasa buys it-- after all, whats a bunch of fucking rocket scientists compared to lord poettering?) | Apr 06 02:16 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 02:16 |
| MinceR | just put a copy of poettering's multiseat laptop in the rocket | Apr 06 02:16 |
| matey | harry poettering and the init system of azkaban | Apr 06 02:16 |
| MinceR | don't forget to install gnome on it | Apr 06 02:17 |
| matey | just strap poettering to the rocket | Apr 06 02:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:17 |
| activelow | a misconception is this, imo, the argument any consumer or ordinary business type system was tailored according to different standards than what is suitable for aerospace | Apr 06 02:17 |
| activelow | instead, the ordinary consumer stuff it is, which homebrewser and hackers and kids grow up with | Apr 06 02:17 |
| matey | "but hagrid, im not a... a... a... developer" | Apr 06 02:17 |
| activelow | that's why, nowadays, engineering labs are equipped with tons of electronics powerd by IBM Wintel | Apr 06 02:18 |
| matey | "well sure ya are! *leans in* havent ya ever taken a half a dozen projects source code and slapped them together with duct tape into some terrible monstrousity an called it 'enterprise?'" | Apr 06 02:18 |
| matey | "well..." | Apr 06 02:18 |
| matey | "mmhmm." | Apr 06 02:18 |
| activelow | the industry, they _cannot_ separate from common trends in "business" and "consumer" market | Apr 06 02:18 |
| activelow | if IBM Wintel PC dominates consumer and business, then this is what engineers have to work with | Apr 06 02:19 |
| matey | enterprise software is a fashionable dictatorship | Apr 06 02:19 |
| MinceR | is there an unfashionable dictatorship anymore? | Apr 06 02:19 |
| matey | no, theyre all in fashion | Apr 06 02:19 |
| activelow | didn't review SPARC Leon yet... which Airbus chose; i fear however, they deploy their designs with Xilinx monstrosity on IBM Wintel PC | Apr 06 02:20 |
| matey | "if IBM Wintel PC dominates consumer and business" fortunately roy is probably right about this part | Apr 06 02:20 |
| matey | "which Airbus chose" thats enough to turn me away | Apr 06 02:21 |
| matey | if they chose the colour green id get something else. | Apr 06 02:21 |
| activelow | some years ago, it was possible to assemble a 68K on a breadboard... and boot linux with it; this times have passed | Apr 06 02:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:23 |
| matey | no you can still do that | Apr 06 02:23 |
| MinceR | matey: it could be worse... it could be boeing | Apr 06 02:23 |
| activelow | i think it was a kernel 2.4 or 2.6 | Apr 06 02:23 |
| matey | they never go boeing, its more of a KKRRRHHHSSSHHH!!!!!!! FOOM | Apr 06 02:23 |
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| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:24 |
| matey | but stastically your odds are still worse in a car | Apr 06 02:25 |
| matey | and elon musk is working very hard to make certain it not only stays that way, but is even more like that | Apr 06 02:25 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 02:26 |
| matey | hal deactivate engine "im sorry dave, i cant do that" | Apr 06 02:26 |
| MinceR | maybe they'll implement a "feature" so that "law enforcement" can hijack/detour cars driven by "criminals" | Apr 06 02:27 |
| matey | pinecar will of course, release a modified smart car with a pin you can pull out to sever the battery connection to the motors | Apr 06 02:27 |
| matey | but im hoping they will call their first model the "derby" | Apr 06 02:27 |
| MinceR | and then someone manages to log in as if they were "law enforcement" and fun things happen | Apr 06 02:27 |
| matey | or microsoft wants to run updates | Apr 06 02:27 |
| MinceR | i'd rather have a Land Cruiser retromodded with a BEV powertrain | Apr 06 02:27 |
| matey | hey, my car wont steer "youre holding it wrong" | Apr 06 02:28 |
| matey | id rather have a fucking bicycle. | Apr 06 02:28 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:28 |
| matey | the more ridiculous technology gets, the more 1800s technology looks ahead of its time | Apr 06 02:29 |
| matey | "my coffee grinder is stuck running updates again." "oh well, i only have this hand-cranked one, but its working" | Apr 06 02:29 |
| activelow | mathematics in 1800 were highly advanced already | Apr 06 02:29 |
| matey | yeah but i suck at math | Apr 06 02:29 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 02:30 |
| activelow | fourier and laplace transform, already existed iirc | Apr 06 02:30 |
| MinceR | my hand-cranked coffee grinder isn't from 1800 | Apr 06 02:30 |
| activelow | which is what most modern signal-processing is based upon | Apr 06 02:30 |
| matey | ive used what pretty much has to be an antique, or a good knockoff | Apr 06 02:30 |
| matey | cast iron fucking gears on it | Apr 06 02:30 |
| matey | it looks like its from a museum | Apr 06 02:30 |
| matey | im not a luddite, but as a debian refugee im naturally impressed by things that actually work. | Apr 06 02:31 |
| activelow | i wasn't good at that anymore either, too many other "innovations" to struggle with while studying: java and oracle db... puke | Apr 06 02:31 |
| MinceR | i have one of these >> https://www.zassenhaus.com/produkte/kaffee/18/mokkamuehle-havanna | Apr 06 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mokkamühle HAVANNA | Kaffee | Produkte | ZASSENHAUS since 1867 | Apr 06 02:31 | |
| matey | nice | Apr 06 02:31 |
| matey | my hand cranked coffee grinder, my mokkamuehle havanna, my 12-stage init system, dropped to the shell again for you-hooooo-- you--hooooo id eleave it all | Apr 06 02:33 |
| matey | /me still thinks george ezra is taking the piss | Apr 06 02:33 |
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| matey | bnchs: #techrights : 04/06/22 01:38 <2matey> You could always read https://mypdns.org/dCF/deCloudflare for your answer because it is already there and collaborate your time. | Apr 06 02:39 |
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| MinceR | it's sad that this ircd not only allows unicode nicks but also nicks starting with digits | Apr 06 02:40 |
| matey | /me is sceptical but someone is adamant | Apr 06 02:40 |
| matey | well i think its a legitimate usage, or close enough | Apr 06 02:40 |
| matey | it was a reply to something i asked earlier, but i was only asking for bnchs | Apr 06 02:40 |
| matey | at any rate we looked there, and didnt find what we wanted. maybe its there now. | Apr 06 02:41 |
| matey | im not sure how to "collaborate my time" but software is developed all over the world, by people who speak varying degrees (and dialects) of english | Apr 06 02:41 |
| matey | hinglish is hysterical. and sometimes very clever. | Apr 06 02:41 |
| MinceR | i doubt it even highlighted you :> | Apr 06 02:42 |
| techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-04-05.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-04-05.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Apr 06 02:42 |
| matey | no, but i saw it nonetheless | Apr 06 02:42 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 06 02:42 |
| matey | my initial reaction of course, was similar to yours. but it only took a moment to see what was going on | Apr 06 02:42 |
| matey | in hinglish, "prepone" is a word | Apr 06 02:44 |
| matey | its the opposite of postpone | Apr 06 02:44 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 02:44 |
| MinceR | isn't there a real english word for that? | Apr 06 02:44 |
| matey | its real english from the perspective of an asian subcontinent | Apr 06 02:44 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:44 |
| MinceR | advance, hasten, antedate, expedite | Apr 06 02:45 |
| matey | also "loose motion" is what you get from eating too many spicy foods, or drinking milk when lactose intolerant | Apr 06 02:45 |
| matey | well english is already silly (and hopelessly foreign to itself) to begin with | Apr 06 02:45 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 06 02:46 |
| matey | its the systemd of languages, and id almost rather speak something else | Apr 06 02:46 |
| matey | its not like i havent tried. migrating to openbsd was a fuck of a lot easier | Apr 06 02:46 |
| MinceR | i don't think that concept is applicable to languages | Apr 06 02:46 |
| matey | if it is applicable, then english is the example. | Apr 06 02:47 |
| MinceR | it implies that there are other things you could load into your mind that would do part of the work the english language does, but aren't languages themselves | Apr 06 02:47 |
| MinceR | or whatever | Apr 06 02:47 |
| matey | i think english is the most ridiculous commonly used language in the world-- but its certainly not useless. | Apr 06 02:47 |
| MinceR | dunno | Apr 06 02:47 |
| MinceR | have you met other languages? :> | Apr 06 02:48 |
| matey | yes, and i think mandarin is a contender. | Apr 06 02:48 |
| matey | i do love that it teaches everyone to sing everything | Apr 06 02:48 |
| MinceR | i don't love that | Apr 06 02:49 |
| MinceR | i can't sing everything and i'm even worse at picking the tone out of the song | Apr 06 02:49 |
| matey | because of all the tones when speaking, chinese people speaking english (if theyre actually from china) end up sounding like theyre saying "hellooooo siiirrrrrr, how are youoooo" | Apr 06 02:49 |
| MinceR | and it seems that it is often left out | Apr 06 02:49 |
| matey | insert unicode musical notes | Apr 06 02:49 |
| matey | well it makes its a bitch to learn | Apr 06 02:49 |
| MinceR | names are often transcribed without the tones | Apr 06 02:49 |
| matey | but theres only 4 tones, so | Apr 06 02:49 |
| MinceR | and i suspect that there are contexts in which they are at least more difficult to pick out | Apr 06 02:49 |
| matey | yeah but then hindi comes along and says "we dont do that" | Apr 06 02:50 |
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| 2bnchs | ROFL XD :-) >>> 〖bnchs〗 │ they smoked crack during the design | Apr 06 02:50 |
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| MinceR | also, other languages use tone for other meta-information | Apr 06 02:50 |
| matey | "we just have 15 different vowels that sound exactly the same" | Apr 06 02:50 |
| MinceR | whoever is using these 2matey, 2bnchs and other nicks: you can hang out here, we don't bite :> | Apr 06 02:50 |
| kingoffrance | well i guess these mirror people are "visitors" </south park> | Apr 06 02:51 |
| matey | i think its meant to convey an air of mystery | Apr 06 02:51 |
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| MinceR | mystery is pretty much ensured anyway | Apr 06 02:51 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | <kingoffrance> well i guess these mirror people are "visitors" </south park> <- i couldnt resist | Apr 06 02:52 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 02:53 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | its such a good episode | Apr 06 02:53 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i hope jodie foster saw it | Apr 06 02:53 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | when youre blue and you dont know where to go to why dont you go where theyre fascist? | Apr 06 02:54 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | putin on a ritz! | Apr 06 02:54 |
| MinceR | :) | Apr 06 02:54 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | so that guys name is ACTUALLY taco | Apr 06 02:54 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i thought it was the name of the band | Apr 06 02:54 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i dont think he shits ice cream though | Apr 06 02:55 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | if youre blue and you dont know where to go to why dont you go where ice cream shits? | Apr 06 02:55 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | pooper duper! | Apr 06 02:56 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=AvKhAHflqvM usually i hate remixes | Apr 06 03:03 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | 2:25 tries to be electroswing and comes out sounding like klezmer instead | Apr 06 03:07 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | since i technically like both i just think its funny | Apr 06 03:07 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | hes got a fuck of a lot of energy for a dude with white hair | Apr 06 03:08 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | of course hes only 61 in that video | Apr 06 03:09 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | these days you can be "only 61" | Apr 06 03:10 |
| MinceR | white hair can be faked :> | Apr 06 03:12 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | "Taco Ockerse was born in Jakarta, Indonesia, on 21 July 1955,[7] he spent many of his childhood years moving around the world, residing in the Netherlands, the United States, Singapore, Luxembourg, Belgium, and Germany." | Apr 06 03:12 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | <MinceR> white hair can be faked <- but does he code! | Apr 06 03:12 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i knew a guy from indonesia | Apr 06 03:12 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | 80 years old and had a smarter mouth than anyone ive met so far | Apr 06 03:13 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | he also moved to the netherlands with his brother | Apr 06 03:14 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 03:15 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | /me misses delores oriordan | Apr 06 03:17 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | if elton john can miss marilyn monroe, i can miss oriordan | Apr 06 03:17 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | drowned in a bath because she was loaded on booze | Apr 06 03:18 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | loaded on booze because she was fucked up for life | Apr 06 03:19 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | but she spent a lot of time trying to straighten it out | Apr 06 03:19 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | but her voice <3 | Apr 06 03:20 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | also sometimes she was really gorgeous | Apr 06 03:20 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | in "ode to my family" she looks like jim carrey in the mask | Apr 06 03:20 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | but usually shes fucking beautiful | Apr 06 03:21 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | its the teeth | Apr 06 03:21 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | theyre very big and white | Apr 06 03:21 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | great song though | Apr 06 03:21 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, so that might solve some of my WiFi stability problems. | Apr 06 03:22 |
| MinceR | ethernet? | Apr 06 03:22 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | ^ | Apr 06 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | Debian keeps their firmware severely out of date. | Apr 06 03:22 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora doesn't. | Apr 06 03:22 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | steve jobs didnt use wifi | Apr 06 03:22 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | or license plates, but fines = legal if youre rich | Apr 06 03:23 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i imagine if theyd given him a couple nights in a cell he would have put a plate on his car | Apr 06 03:24 |
| MinceR | steve jobs also didn't like putting fans in devices that needed them | Apr 06 03:24 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | or buttons on optical drives, because those are for losers :) | Apr 06 03:24 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | everyone knows that the eject button should be on the keyboard | Apr 06 03:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | and now you need an apple keyboard! | Apr 06 03:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | but wait, you can also drag the cd to the trash! | Apr 06 03:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | because of course thats what you would do! | Apr 06 03:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | and this is why ive never dropped acid. | Apr 06 03:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i mean its not the only reason, merely the most compelling. | Apr 06 03:26 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | steve jobs: you should try acid! everyone should! | Apr 06 03:26 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | also steve jobs: "and then you drag the cd into the trash can!" | Apr 06 03:26 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | "and thats how it ejects" | Apr 06 03:26 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | yep. | Apr 06 03:26 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | never touching the stuff | Apr 06 03:26 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 03:27 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | he never put fans in machines that should have them because he was afraid he would lapse into his old habit | Apr 06 03:28 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | of turning all his computers into bongs | Apr 06 03:28 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | im not against pot of course, but using your computer as a bong is just silly | Apr 06 03:29 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | thats what keurigs are for. | Apr 06 03:29 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 03:29 |
| DaemonFC | It seems libadwaita and GTK4 are causing another theme mess. | Apr 06 03:30 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i draw the line at gtk4 | Apr 06 03:30 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | 1 browser, 1 graphical editor | Apr 06 03:30 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | no other exceptions | Apr 06 03:30 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | fork gtk, this is silly. | Apr 06 03:30 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | /me isnt using gtk for much | Apr 06 03:31 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | too bad qt is such a dumpster fire | Apr 06 03:32 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | it could have been useful | Apr 06 03:32 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | /me lived next to a literal dumpster fire once | Apr 06 03:32 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | they had fun rebuilding that side of the building | Apr 06 03:33 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | because this is where your fucking cigarette goes, woody (yes of course it was a cigarette) | Apr 06 03:33 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | thats so stupid they should have deported the guy | Apr 06 03:33 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | he was greek. and im not really big on deporting people. but i mean as an alternative to shooting him. | Apr 06 03:34 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | tomboys :) the geeky variety https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/2022-04-04-GP1037.jpg | Apr 06 03:56 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | the running lights are hysterical | Apr 06 03:57 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▇▇▆▇▇█▇▇█▆▇▁▆▇▅▄▇▅▆▆▆▅▅▆▄▇▃▄▆▁ avg(k/sec) 36.65 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁██▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▇▂▂██▁▃▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▃█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 69.45▕ swarm size (avg): 607.86 ⟲ | Apr 06 03:59 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | its funny because the one with purple hair is a feminist, and the blonde and the (purple zebra) succubus think shes incredibly uptight, but like her otherwise | Apr 06 03:59 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Tuesday, April 05, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Apr 06 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Apr 06 04:14 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Apr 06 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Apr 06 04:14 | |
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| DaemonFC | GNOME Software is as big a piece of shit as ever. | Apr 06 04:15 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | yes! | Apr 06 04:15 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | when you said you wanted to try gnome 42, i thought you were high | Apr 06 04:15 |
| DaemonFC | I just had to kill -9 it and delete its cache folder because it insisted that apps I removed with dnf were there, but when you click uninstall it says nothing to remove. | Apr 06 04:15 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to the "linux" desktop | Apr 06 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, so the LULZ with GNOME Software Center never end, and now GNOME doesn't know what AV1+Opus in MKV is and it crashes the thumbnailer. | Apr 06 04:16 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | or if not windows, then the same sheer stupidity | Apr 06 04:16 |
| DaemonFC | But if you open them in Celluloid they play (or VLC). | Apr 06 04:16 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | gnome is also a wonderful barometer as the general direction the fsf is going | Apr 06 04:16 |
| techrights-news | Building Emacs 28.1 gemini://alexschroeder.ch/page/2022-04-05%20Building%20Emacs%2028.1 | Apr 06 04:17 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | gnome and systemd are both like your metaphor of q | Apr 06 04:17 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | if they want something to work, they just change the gravitational constant of the universe | Apr 06 04:17 |
| DaemonFC | The installer also left my hostname set to localhost-live. | Apr 06 04:18 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | and wait for everyone else to go along with it | Apr 06 04:18 |
| techrights-news | "america [sic] is definitely the worst developed country [sic] and the only reason people find it compelling is that it's the richest and most powerful" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Apr 06 04:18 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | nice of it to choose a hostname for you | Apr 06 04:18 |
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| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D194.jpg | Apr 06 04:19 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | sesame-street-live probably would have cause a collision | Apr 06 04:19 |
| schestowitz | (cat) gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D552.jpg | Apr 06 04:19 |
| MinceR | 06 051615 < a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream> the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to the "linux" desktop | Apr 06 04:19 |
| MinceR | i thought it was supposed to bring macos to it | Apr 06 04:19 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, resetting it with hostnamectl works. | Apr 06 04:19 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | the purpose of WINDOWS is to bring macos to people who dont have a mac | Apr 06 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | Apparently, there is no Fedora 36 Beta for SilverBlue, but you can install Fedora 35 and then change the OSTree to 36 Beta. | Apr 06 04:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 04:20 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | the purpose of gnome is to bring windows to people who dont have windows | Apr 06 04:20 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | its sort of like a big with training wheels-- and the training wheels have their own training wheels | Apr 06 04:20 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | like a bike ^ | Apr 06 04:20 |
| DaemonFC | I wonder if SilverBlue has any purpose except to give you a reason to use Flatpaks. | Apr 06 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, and adding a display returns me to the log-in screen. | Apr 06 04:21 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | /me still thinks dfc is making silverblue up | Apr 06 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | Why? | Apr 06 04:21 |
| DaemonFC | But when I log in, everything is still here. Same for turning off the display. | Apr 06 04:21 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | All Will Be Revealed | Apr 06 04:22 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | its probably just the usual dick sucking contest though | Apr 06 04:23 |
| DaemonFC | On the upside, my WiFi connection has never been better. | Apr 06 04:24 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | but thats a firmware issue | Apr 06 04:25 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | or at least it was | Apr 06 04:25 |
| techrights-news | STEAM DECK Gameplay | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ili1B46Pg7A ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 06 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | STEAM DECK Gameplay | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga - Invidious | Apr 06 04:29 | |
| DaemonFC | All bittorrent apps are unsafe according to the GNOME Software program. | Apr 06 04:30 |
| DaemonFC | They've been given full file system access in Flatpak. | Apr 06 04:31 |
| DaemonFC | I suppose you could fix that.... | Apr 06 04:31 |
| techrights-news | CVSS v3 8.4 https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ics/advisories/icsa-22-095-02 | Apr 06 04:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Johnson Controls Metasys | CISA | Apr 06 04:31 | |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | flatpak seems to have been designed to babysit users | Apr 06 04:31 |
| techrights-news | Funny how Microsoft-funded corporate media never covers HIGHLY CRITICAL AND SEVERE flaws in PROPRIETARY software. | Apr 06 04:32 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | function right() { right_buf="" ; right_c=0 ; right_p=${1} ; right_x=${2} ; for right_b in $(echo "$right_p" | tr ' ' '_' | rev | fold -sw 1) ; do right_buf="$right_buf$right_b" ; right_c="$(($right_c+1))" ; if [[ ! "$right_c" -lt "$right_x" ]] ; then break ; fi ; done ; echo "$right_buf" | rev | tr '_' ' ' } | Apr 06 04:32 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163397 | Apr 06 04:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 06 04:32 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i suppose if everything was written in bash, eventually people would say "fuck it" and just move to hardware designs instead | Apr 06 04:32 |
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| DaemonFC | So all the icons are missing in GTK3 applications. | Apr 06 04:33 |
| DaemonFC | What a mess. | Apr 06 04:33 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i delete all my icons | Apr 06 04:33 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | im used to them not being there | Apr 06 04:34 |
| techrights-news | "In this video, we are looking at Xubuntu 22.04 Beta." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vT78T95Daz8 | Apr 06 04:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Xubuntu 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 06 04:34 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | applications whinge about it in the term output | Apr 06 04:34 |
| techrights-news | Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=DZKmzV_0RBY ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 06 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu Budgie 22.04 Beta Run Through - Invidious | Apr 06 04:35 | |
| techrights-news | 3D printing a bunch of community-made Steam Deck models. Any you’d recommend? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Ag36Hwpycr0 ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 06 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | 3D printing a bunch of community-made Steam Deck models. Any you'd recommend? - Invidious | Apr 06 04:35 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | imo if a button doesnt have an icon file, it should switch to using a label | Apr 06 04:36 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | if the button is fixed width, it will naturally become an initial for that label. | Apr 06 04:36 |
| techrights-news | "So a gitlab dev made a pretty big mistake and pushed a hardcoded password into production code, the results are as you'd expect." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=EE_RfwQcDuE | Apr 06 04:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Gitlab Ships Critical Account Takeover Bug - Invidious | Apr 06 04:36 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | or a de facto abbreviation | Apr 06 04:36 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | this is not what happens. although i do not care | Apr 06 04:37 |
| techrights-news | "Hey, DT! What’s Your Thoughts On Elementary OS?" (And Other Questions) - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=jGXTWwIYhY8 ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 06 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | "Hey, DT! What's Your Thoughts On Elementary OS?" (And Other Questions) - Invidious | Apr 06 04:37 | |
| DaemonFC | I might download the KDE edition and see if that's still ruined. | Apr 06 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | LOL | Apr 06 04:37 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | there are buttons on my keyboard that dont have labels either. its not even that old, but theyve worn onff | Apr 06 04:37 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | off | Apr 06 04:37 |
| DaemonFC | I never thought they'd shit on GNOME like this. | Apr 06 04:37 |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | i think its redundant | Apr 06 04:38 |
| techrights-news | Knowledge by the Pound: *The Renowned History of Giles Gingerbread* (1768) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/giles-gingerbread/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview | Apr 06 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | Knowledge by the Pound: *The Renowned History of Giles Gingerbread* (1768) – The Public Domain Review | Apr 06 04:38 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | gnome shitting on itself is like some kind of defecation klein bottle | Apr 06 04:38 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | a klein toilet! | Apr 06 04:38 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | dont ask me how youre supposed to keep water in the bowl | Apr 06 04:39 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | if it stops up you need a moebius plunger | Apr 06 04:40 |
| techrights-news | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.12.6 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163398 | Apr 06 04:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Istio / Announcing Istio 1.12.6 | Tux Machines | Apr 06 04:42 | |
| techrights-news | "WordPress 5.9.3 is now available! This maintenance release features 9 bug fixes in Core and 10 bug fixes in the block editor. WordPress 5.9.3 is a short-cycle maintenance release. The next major release will be version 6.0." https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/wordpress-5-9-3-maintenance-release/ | Apr 06 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.org | WordPress 5.9.3 Maintenance Release – WordPress News | Apr 06 04:43 | |
| techrights-news | Apple is failing its own so-called 'customers' https://9to5mac.com/2022/03/28/cider-is-an-alternative-apple-music-desktop-client-with-features-missing-in-itunes/ | Apr 06 04:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cider is an alternative Apple Music client for Windows and Linux - 9to5Mac | Apr 06 04:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | Okay, well, I fixed the "legacy" apps not being dark. | Apr 06 04:45 |
| techrights-news | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - x86/speculation: Restore speculation related MSRs during S3 resume ⚓ https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=e2a1256b17b16f9b9adf1b6fea56819e7b68e463 ䷉ Source: git | Apr 06 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Apr 06 04:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Dark themes are the only themes that should be legal. | Apr 06 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | The light theme is a crime. | Apr 06 04:45 |
| DaemonFC | Tweaks now has a setting for legacy apps to use Adwaita-Dark. But if you just set Dark Mode in the Settings app, then you get a nice big fuck you from GNOME. | Apr 06 04:45 |
| techrights-news | You should upgrade. But to GNU/Linux. Vista 11 is a DOWNGRADE. More bugs. https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ | Apr 06 04:45 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: windowslatest.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.windowslatest.com/2022/04/03/should-you-upgrade-to-windows-11-heres-a-list-of-missing-features/ | Apr 06 04:45 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.windowslatest.com | Should you upgrade to Windows 11? Here's a list of missing features | Apr 06 04:45 | |
| DaemonFC | The GNOME apps are dark and nothing else. | Apr 06 04:45 |
| techrights-news | Latest Videos About GNU/Linux (via Invidious) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163399 | Apr 06 04:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Videos About GNU/Linux (via Invidious) | Tux Machines | Apr 06 04:46 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg298834.html | Apr 06 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Fedora Development — Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide | Apr 06 04:46 | |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I installed GNOME Icon Theme and I still have no icons. | Apr 06 04:47 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe I need to log out and back in. | Apr 06 04:47 |
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| techrights-news | In January 2022, the European Parliament voted in favor of the Digital Services Act (DSA), a horizontal legislation for the EU’s digital single market that seeks to define platforms’ responsibility regarding user content https://www.lumendatabase.org/blog_entries/transparency-initiatives-in-the-dsa-an-exciting-step-forward-in-transparency-reporting | Apr 06 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.lumendatabase.org | | Apr 06 04:50 | |
| techrights-news | Party for a corporate distro??? https://ubuntu-mm.net/loco-news/the-call-for-participation-is-now-open-for-ubuntu-22-04-release-party/ | Apr 06 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntu-mm.net | The Call for Participation is now open for Ubuntu 22.04 Release Party – Ubuntu MM | Apr 06 04:51 | |
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| DaemonFC | So, that does fix GTK3 apps, sure. | Apr 06 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | But not Qt apps. You have to switch to "GNOME" icons to get your icons back in all cases. | Apr 06 04:52 |
| DaemonFC | libadwaita fallout..... | Apr 06 04:52 |
| techrights-news | "free Libre"?? On Apple MacOS only?? https://medevel.com/stats/ | Apr 06 04:53 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/stats/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/stats/ | Apr 06 04:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Stats: A free Libre macOS system monitor directly from your menubar | Apr 06 04:53 | |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | garish nebulous obnoxious microsoft-like environment | Apr 06 04:54 |
| techrights-news | Shaarli is a free open-source, self-hosted Bookmarking solution • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163400 | Apr 06 04:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Shaarli is a free open-source, self-hosted Bookmarking solution | Tux Machines | Apr 06 04:56 | |
| techrights-news | My guide to understanding Git rebase -i | ⚓ https://opensource.com/article/22/4/manage-git-commits-rebase-i-command ䷉ Source: FreeSW | RedHat | IBM | GNU | Linux | Apr 06 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-My guide to understanding Git rebase -i | Opensource.com | Apr 06 04:57 | |
| techrights-news | Funny how corporate media does not call git a "Linux command". As THAT might actually upset Linus, unlike RMS (calling GNU programs "Linux"). | Apr 06 04:58 |
| DaemonFC | But if you install Qt/KDE applications as Flatpaks, the icons work again and you can use whatever icons you want in GNOME. | Apr 06 04:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▇▃▄█▁▅▆█▄▅▅▆▃▁▂▃▅▂▄▁▅▇▅▅▂▁▄▇▃▁▄▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 29.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▃▂▄█▂▁▂██▁▁▂▁▂▂▇▆▂▂▃▁▁▁▁▃██▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 57.93▕ swarm size (avg): 343.78 ⟲ | Apr 06 04:59 |
| techrights-news | "I recorded a ~20-minute video tutorial demonstrating how to work with mesh gradients in Inkscape, importing them into Scribus and producing print-ready CMYK artwork. You can watch it above embedded from YouTube or on my personal LinuxRocks PeerTube channel." https://blog.linuxgrrl.com/2022/04/05/working-with-gradient-meshes-in-inkscape-scribus-to-produce-print-ready-artwork/ | Apr 06 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.linuxgrrl.com | Working with gradient meshes in Inkscape & Scribus to produce print-ready artwork – Máirín Duffy | Apr 06 04:59 | |
| activelow | DaemonFC: what a satire show of yours is this again ? | Apr 06 04:59 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora 36. | Apr 06 05:00 |
| DaemonFC | None of these issues are blocking the final release, by the way. :) | Apr 06 05:00 |
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| techrights-news | "All system admins should be lazy. Not as in not doing their job, but as in doing it as efficiently as possible. Why do you have to do things manually when you can automate them?" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/automating-red-hat-identity-management-installation | Apr 06 05:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Automating Red Hat Identity Management installation | Apr 06 05:00 | |
| techrights-news | "The kernel team is working on final integration for Linux kernel 5.17. This version was just recently released, and will arrive soon in Fedora. As a result, the Fedora kernel and QA teams have organized a test week now through Sunday, April 10, 2022." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-linux-36-test-week-for-kernel-5-17/ | Apr 06 05:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Contribute at the Fedora Linux 36 Test Week for Kernel 5.17 – Fedora Community Blog | Apr 06 05:01 | |
| DaemonFC | Maybe the Qt apps are broken because they're missing something else? | Apr 06 05:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM snubs KDE | Apr 06 05:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you missed the announcement. It was deliberate. | Apr 06 05:03 |
| techrights-news | No, you do not want "relationship" with suits https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/want-impress-your-cio-5-donts | Apr 06 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Want to build a relationship with your CIO? 5 things you shouldn't do | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 06 05:04 | |
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| techrights-news | "In the last post I explained how I built a base map of Tasmania (coastline plus main roads) with a lat/lon grid using gnuplot. Here I describe how the base map was used to generate GIF animations." https://www.datafix.com.au/BASHing/2022-04-06.html | Apr 06 05:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.datafix.com.au | Mapping with gnuplot, part 3 | Apr 06 05:07 | |
| techrights-news | This DIY coop controller makes caring for chickens a much easier task | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Apr 06 05:07 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/this-diy-coop-controller-makes-caring-for-chickens-a-much-easier-task/ | Apr 06 05:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | This DIY coop controller makes caring for chickens a much easier task | Arduino Blog | Apr 06 05:07 | |
| techrights-news | The Arduipiano is an Arduino-powered floor piano that lets you play music with your feet | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Apr 06 05:08 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/05/the-arduipiano-is-an-arduino-powered-floor-piano-that-lets-you-play-music-with-your-feet/ | Apr 06 05:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The Arduipiano is an Arduino-powered floor piano that lets you play music with your feet | Arduino Blog | Apr 06 05:08 | |
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| techrights-news | "Hans Andersson decided to make his own version that integrates both RGB LEDs and fiber optics to show the current time in a far more entertaining manner." https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ | Apr 06 05:09 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/the-o-clock-is-a-fun-way-to-check-the-current-time/ | Apr 06 05:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | The O-Clock is a fun way to check the current time | Arduino Blog | Apr 06 05:09 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Yeah, it seems the only ways to get icons in Qt apps are to use the "GNOME Icon Theme" (not Adwaita), or use KDE and Qt apps as Flatpaks. | Apr 06 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | But installing GNOME Icon Theme puts the icons back into "Legacy" GTK apps. | Apr 06 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | Even if those are from RPM. | Apr 06 05:10 |
| techrights-news | Mobile 'phones' or 'smart' crap has become mostly about the surveillance https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ | Apr 06 05:11 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2022/04/05/philippines-sim-card-registration-act-will-expose-users-to-greater-privacy-and-security-risks-online/ | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Philippines’ SIM Card Registration Act will expose users to greater privacy and security risks online - Open Policy & Advocacy | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.spinics.net/lists/fedora-devel/msg298835.html | Apr 06 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spinics.net | Fedora Development — Re: Icon issues in a number of applications - f36 and rawhide | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| techrights-news | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163401 | Apr 06 05:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| DaemonFC | "Yeah, so the TL;DR here is adwaita-icon-theme has removed a bunch of color icons. GNOME applications should for the most part only be using symbolic icons, so it's probably not very disruptive for GNOME apps, but it could be very disruptive for third-party apps that don't follow our guidelines. I will avoid expressing an opinion on whether removing icons that applications depend on is a good thing to do." | Apr 06 05:11 |
| DaemonFC | W T F | Apr 06 05:11 |
| techrights-news | "Clutter can consume us in digital form, too — from an overabundance of browser bookmarks and open tabs to navigating a world wide web that’s littered with junk. The right browser extension, however, can really help clean things up…" https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ | Apr 06 05:11 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: mozilla.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/extensions-for-cleaning-up-a-chaotic-desktop/ | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-addons.mozilla.org | Extensions for cleaning up a chaotic desktop - Firefox Add-ons Blog | Apr 06 05:11 | |
| DaemonFC | So this is not a bug? They did this knowing what would happen! | Apr 06 05:12 |
| DaemonFC | "Recommendation: Third-party applications should limit themselves to depending on standard icon names listed at https://specifications.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html only. All other icons should be installed by your app to guarantee that they don't disappear out from under you." | Apr 06 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-specifications.freedesktop.org | Icon Naming Specification | Apr 06 05:12 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, ^ I'm going to write about this. | Apr 06 05:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Apr 06 05:12 |
| techrights-news | Latest Showcases of Arduino Projects • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163402 | Apr 06 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Showcases of Arduino Projects | Tux Machines | Apr 06 05:12 | |
| DaemonFC | "gnome-icon-theme is just an obsolete, older version of adwaita-icon-theme. Installing it is not recommended, but it is still hanging around in Fedora in case you need it." | Apr 06 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | What are you supposed to do? Use broken apps that have invisible buttons!? | Apr 06 05:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | move to an apple os | Apr 06 05:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | where the most customisation you can get is "dark mode" | Apr 06 05:13 |
| DaemonFC | The Flatpaks apparently work because they bundle what they need in order to run, and the runtime has the icons that they use. | Apr 06 05:14 |
| activelow | (mandatory) adwaita icon theme created a nasty depency graph, against SVG, and some other stuff including c++ | Apr 06 05:14 |
| activelow | which isn't critical; nonetheless, GTK was written in C, not C++, that's why it is sad | Apr 06 05:14 |
| activelow | because i hoped GTK could remain inside the base system | Apr 06 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | So Fedora has broken Transmission, Deluge, and QBittorrent. | Apr 06 05:15 |
| DaemonFC | But not VLC. | Apr 06 05:15 |
| techrights-news | What does this have to do with security? When "Senior Product Manager" with "a wide breadth of technical marketing expertise" writes stuff... https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ | Apr 06 05:15 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: suse.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.suse.com/c/open-source-security-for-ibm-z16/ | Apr 06 05:15 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Reinforcing Open Source Security with SUSE and the new IBM z16 | SUSE Communities | Apr 06 05:15 | |
| activelow | some years ago a C-compiler sufficed, for X11/GTK, not anymore | Apr 06 05:16 |
| techrights-news | Samsung devices incorrectly handle CSS @media hover queries https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/css-media-hover-samsung.html bug reports become blog posts? | Apr 06 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | Samsung devices incorrectly handle CSS @media hover queries | Apr 06 05:16 | |
| activelow | too, the entire (La|Xe)TeX tree of packages require C++; Knuth rejected c++, however i had not seen any original TeX components anymore inside gentoo tree | Apr 06 05:17 |
| activelow | ghostscript and gnuplot was another one, which i hoped remain inside base system, and cannot yet | Apr 06 05:18 |
| techrights-news | Openwashing https://opensource.com/open-organization/22/4/essence-of-openness-norberg-review | Apr 06 05:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-opensource.com | 4 questions about the essence of openness | Apr 06 05:18 | |
| techrights-news | After being ousted from his own company https://techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/techcrunch.com/2022/03/30/docker-founder-launches-dagger-a-new-devops-platform/amp/ | Apr 06 05:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techcrunch-com.cdn.ampproject.org | Docker founder launches Dagger, a new DevOps platform – TechCrunch | Apr 06 05:22 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163403 | Apr 06 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 05:23 | |
| techrights-news | They should ban Microsoft and Windows if they're true to their mission https://www.fosslife.org/us-bureau-cyberspace-and-digital-policy-launched see http://techrights.org/2021/07/19/microsoft-national-security/ | Apr 06 05:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | U.S. Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy Launched | Apr 06 05:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Microsoft a National Security Threat? | Techrights | Apr 06 05:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Designed by Smart Bee Designs, the tiny Bee Motion Mini combines an ESP32-C3 wireless RISC-V SoC with a PIR sensor for motion detection reporting over WiFi, Bluetooth LE, or Bluetooh Mesh." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ | Apr 06 05:25 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnx-software.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/05/bee-motion-mini-esp32-c3-pir-sensor-board/ | Apr 06 05:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Bee Motion Mini board combines ESP32-C3 with PIR sensor - CNX Software | Apr 06 05:25 | |
| DaemonFC | "Hi, | Apr 06 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | for what it's worth, the "dialog-question" is part of the | Apr 06 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | specification, still the console snippet Philip pasted in his mail | Apr 06 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | shows an abort on it:" | Apr 06 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 05:28 |
| DaemonFC | So you should follow the specification, which they have also violated with the icon pack changes. | Apr 06 05:29 |
| DaemonFC | Well, that clarifies things. | Apr 06 05:29 |
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| DaemonFC | Seems that once one icon fails to load, they all fail to load. So in removing "dialog-question", the GNOME developers have broken anything that tries to load it, even though it's part of the specification, and the other icons the program is trying to load may still be there. | Apr 06 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 05:34 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm happy to report that all of the HARDWARE works wonderfully, and Fedora manages to brush all of those unsightly UEFI bugs under the rug with a spiffy bootsplash." | Apr 06 05:39 |
| DaemonFC | "(In Debian, there's an awkward transition between the GRUB bootloader and the Debian splash screen where Lenovo's UEFI BIOS vomits out a couple of dozen errors, which the Linux kernel prints to the screen. They're there even if you use Windows, but Microsoft hides them to make Lenovo look less dodgy.)" | Apr 06 05:39 |
| techrights-news | Social control media -- no matter if federated, or decentralised, or peer to peer, or "open source", or free/libre -- is generally a waste of time. Hard to maintain, distracting, and totally not worth it. Set up blogs, use RSS feeds. Vastly better. | Apr 06 05:41 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163404 | Apr 06 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 06 05:41 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, The triple buffering patch in GNOME Shell 42 seems to make a huge difference in how fast the Shell renders things to the screen. | Apr 06 05:42 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is using BtrFS with Compression now. | Apr 06 05:45 |
| DaemonFC | Not "force" though. So it basically tests a little of each file it wants to write and if it's not compressing well, it just gives up and commits it to the disk without making a full pass. | Apr 06 05:45 |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▅▃▄▅▄▁▇▇▂▅▆█▃▄▅▁▃▄▅▆▅▂▁▂▆▂▁▁▂▅▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 27.71 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▂██▁▁▂▁▁▁▄▂▂█▃▂▁▂█▂▂█▁▄▁▂███▁ avg(k/sec) 89.18▕ swarm size (avg): 430.90 ⟲ | Apr 06 05:59 |
| DaemonFC | I like what I've seen lately with the BtrFS work. | Apr 06 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | There have been a lot of deletions of some really dodgy driver-specific code, and it's using the Linux VFS in more places now. | Apr 06 06:06 |
| DaemonFC | Nice. Lutris is in the default Fedora repo. | Apr 06 06:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I read yours, you read mine? | Apr 06 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah | Apr 06 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | still finalising mine | Apr 06 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | you were right | Apr 06 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was wrong | Apr 06 06:10 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that GNOME software will ever work right. | Apr 06 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | social control media is BS | Apr 06 06:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you are still on FB | Apr 06 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Barely. | Apr 06 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | Mostly to harass my dad and AppleInsider. | Apr 06 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 06:11 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME Software be all like: "Not sure if really fucked or just looks like fucked and will eventually install your app." | Apr 06 06:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Elon Musk is Twitter jumping the shark. | Apr 06 06:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I saw that | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | saudis | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | gates | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | now musk | Apr 06 06:14 |
| DaemonFC | Why would he want to buy it to own it? That's essentially what his SEC filing said. Long Term Investor | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is what Twitter is FOR | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | But I did not mention it | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | draft ready: | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ | Apr 06 06:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later… | Techrights | Apr 06 06:14 | |
| schestowitz | now a bunch of fools are jumping for Musk | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz | to make him richer | Apr 06 06:14 |
| schestowitz | giving him "content" | Apr 06 06:15 |
| schestowitz | not me... | Apr 06 06:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: see the above, it's short | Apr 06 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | Mandy puts our pictures on his Facebook account. | Apr 06 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | You know MARISOL is seeing this. | Apr 06 06:15 |
| DaemonFC | I've told him. He won't stop. | Apr 06 06:16 |
| DaemonFC | "USENET" Not really a form of social control. In fact, the ISPs stopped providing free access to it because no corporation was going to centralize and control it, and use it to vomit advertisements all over your screen. | Apr 06 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | And if you got kicked off of one NNTP server, then there were a million others where that came from. | Apr 06 06:17 |
| DaemonFC | And if your USENET provider went away, there were more. It's a layer of the Internet. As long as you have _an_ ISP, it works. | Apr 06 06:18 |
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| DaemonFC | schestowitz, I wish someone would make a peer-to-peer social media that didn't require servers or put anyone in control. | Apr 06 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | It seems like an idea whose time came years ago and nobody ever did it. | Apr 06 06:19 |
| DaemonFC | When Musk says he wants Free Speech, he just means he wants to say whatever HE wants. | Apr 06 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | It's never going to be no rules for you. | Apr 06 06:20 |
| DaemonFC | Musk gets away with showing his ass to the IRS and the SEC and nothing happens and then he complains he's being persecuted, which is therefore a delusion or he knows it's bullshit and says it anyway. | Apr 06 06:21 |
| DaemonFC | "A lot of ‘free’ video hosting will shut down or become like television (broadcast conglomerates with advertising)." | Apr 06 06:22 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, YouTube is turning into a streaming app. I'm guessing the end of "user content" is near. | Apr 06 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | PornHub was fine with looking the other way while people uploaded anything they wanted to. | Apr 06 06:23 |
| DaemonFC | Then they cleared it all out and said it was because there may have been some CP that slipped in, so here go people's entire accounts and hundreds or thousands of terabytes of stuff, ruining some people's way of making a living even. | Apr 06 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | And sure that was a porn site, but YouTube will do the same thing with user content. | Apr 06 06:24 |
| DaemonFC | They got where they are now, and now they don't need it. | Apr 06 06:24 |
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| schestowitz-TR | right | Apr 06 06:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | I agree | Apr 06 06:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mandy is a liability in this regard | Apr 06 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | you should both agree on what's uploaded | Apr 06 06:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne and I upload no photos unless BOTH of us review it | Apr 06 06:27 |
| DaemonFC | https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=4d1b97f9ce7c0d2af2bb85b12d48e6902172a28e | Apr 06 06:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-git.kernel.org | kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree | Apr 06 06:27 | |
| schestowitz-TR | and it goes into our own site, not ClearviewBook (FB) | Apr 06 06:27 |
| techrights-news | Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later... | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ | Apr 06 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later… | Techrights | Apr 06 06:28 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I'm getting a $400 check from Facebook apparently. | Apr 06 06:28 |
| DaemonFC | It was the Illinois BIPA law that brought down Facial Recognition. | Apr 06 06:29 |
| DaemonFC | They decided to get rid of it after losing all of that money. | Apr 06 06:29 |
| techrights-news | Shilling Microsoft spying on Gemini? Not good optics :/ "linkedin is my favorite social network right now." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | Apr 06 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: I hope millions will cash in on this | Apr 06 06:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | to cause FB noticeable financial damage | Apr 06 06:30 |
| DaemonFC | They said if the first round of checks doesn't deplete the money, we get another round of checks with more. | Apr 06 06:31 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buYrBbwyCGE | Apr 06 06:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=buYrBbwyCGE | Apr 06 06:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | I Can't Decide - Invidious | Apr 06 06:31 | |
| DaemonFC | I remembered this when I was rewatching Doctor Who. | Apr 06 06:32 |
| techrights-news | There are now about 2,300 known Gemini capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Apr 06 06:32 |
| kingoffrance | yes, its a mystery broadband became widespread and p2p vanished. | Apr 06 06:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: notice how: | Apr 06 06:32 |
| kingoffrance | naturally should be the other way around | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | youtube won't yield a title | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | demands javscript | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | won't give title unless you run proprietary program | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless you use a decent browser like librewolf, expect many ads | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube was a GIANT bair and switch | Apr 06 06:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I see channels with like 100,000 "subscribers" and not even 1000 views | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes you wonder how they distribute their traffic | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'traffic-shaping'\ | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | Twitter does the same | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | people who follow you barely see anything you post | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's "not profitable" | Apr 06 06:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | notification in twitter are not RECOMMENDATIONS | Apr 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | they RECOMMEND things to you | Apr 06 06:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of actual notifications | Apr 06 06:35 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora is still building Firefox with GCC. | Apr 06 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | Debian switched to Clang/LLVM. | Apr 06 06:37 |
| DaemonFC | Just noticed that. | Apr 06 06:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Apr 06 06:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Musk’s Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up ‘Engagement’ by Adding Noise) | Techrights | Apr 06 06:52 | |
| schestowitz | see imagte | Apr 06 06:52 |
| schestowitz | report typos ;-) | Apr 06 06:52 |
| schestowitz | I'm still checking | Apr 06 06:52 |
| techrights-news | Musk’s Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up ’Engagement’ by Adding Noise) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Apr 06 06:57 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▅▃▅▄▁▇▇▅▃▂▁▇▃▆▅▃▆▆▆▅▆▇▇▄▁▆▅▆▂▆▁ avg(k/sec) 23.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▂██▁█▂▂▃▄██▂█▁▂▃█▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▃██▁▂▂▂▂▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 91.20▕ swarm size (avg): 311.08 ⟲ | Apr 06 06:59 |
| techrights-news | According to statcounter, GNU/Linux is now over 5% on desktops/laptops | Apr 06 07:01 |
| techrights-news | Of course the share of GNU/Linux is greater than Apple's in many countries, e.g. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 | Apr 06 07:02 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: statcounter.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/poland/#monthly-200901-202204 | Apr 06 07:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gs.statcounter.com | Desktop Operating System Market Share Poland | Statcounter Global Stats | Apr 06 07:02 | |
| DaemonFC | Looks good. Must get going. | Apr 06 07:08 |
| DaemonFC | bbiab | Apr 06 07:08 |
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| techrights-news | Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163405 | Apr 06 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support | Tux Machines | Apr 06 07:49 | |
| techrights-news | Ghostscript 9.56.1 Released with Apple Raster Support • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163405 | Apr 06 07:51 |
| techrights-news | Firefox 99 Brings New ReaderMode Feature and Security Fixes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163406 | Apr 06 07:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 99 Brings New ReaderMode Feature and Security Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 06 07:51 | |
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| techrights-news | Musk’s Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up ’Engagement’ by Adding Noise) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Apr 06 08:22 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 | Techrights <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/irc-log-050422/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 06 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Tuesday, April 05, 2022 | Techrights | Apr 06 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Just 2³² IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2³³ People | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ | Apr 06 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just 2³² IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2³³ People | Techrights | Apr 06 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Still no mention from RMS of his upcoming FSF talk https://stallman.org/talks.html | Apr 06 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Talks - Richard Stallman | Apr 06 08:41 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163407 | Apr 06 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Apr 06 08:48 | |
| techrights-news | Privacy-focused Linux distro Tails 5 Beta now available for download with many critical security bug fixes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163379#comment-33284 | Apr 06 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Tails 5.0 Enters Beta Testing as First Release Based on Debian GNU/Linux 11 “Bullseye” | Tux Machines | Apr 06 08:54 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▅▆▆█▅▆▅▅▇█▅▅▂▄▅▅▆▅▇▇▇▅▅█▇▇▇█▆▃▆▁ avg(k/sec) 37.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▂▂▂▃▂▂▂▂▃▁▂▂▅▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▂██▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 34.60▕ swarm size (avg): 323.33 ⟲ | Apr 06 08:59 |
| techrights-news | NuTyX 22.04.1 available with cards 2.5.0 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163408 | Apr 06 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | NuTyX 22.04.1 available with cards 2.5.0 | Tux Machines | Apr 06 09:05 | |
| techrights-news | New Raspberry Pi: Compute Module 4S • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163409 | Apr 06 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | New Raspberry Pi: Compute Module 4S | Tux Machines | Apr 06 09:13 | |
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| techrights-news | "How do you prove that you know something secret without revealing the secret?" https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ | Apr 06 09:34 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: matt-rickard.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://matt-rickard.com/zero-knowledge-proofs/ | Apr 06 09:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Zero Knowledge Proofs | Apr 06 09:34 | |
| techrights-news | "The new audio confirms that the speed of sound is slower on Mars than on Earth, a result that was expected since the motion of acoustic waves" https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyp9pa/sound-on-mars-has-a-unique-and-extremely-trippy-property-recordings-reveal | Apr 06 09:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Sound on Mars Has a 'Unique' And Extremely Trippy Property, Recordings Reveal | Apr 06 09:35 | |
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| techrights-news | "digitized test result certificate which can be used as proof" https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results | Apr 06 09:40 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: who.int | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.who.int/news/item/31-03-2022-who-launches-guidance-on-digitally-documenting-sars-cov-2-test-results | Apr 06 09:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.who.int | WHO launches guidance on digitally documenting SARS-CoV-2 test results | Apr 06 09:40 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html | Apr 06 09:41 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/business-it-news/security/google-blames-microsoft-monoculture-for-govt-security-problems.html | Apr 06 09:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Google blames Microsoft 'monoculture' for govt security problems | Apr 06 09:41 | |
| techrights-news | "Have a look at our roadmap to see where we are heading to" https://tails.boum.org/news/version_4.29/index.en.html | Apr 06 09:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tails.boum.org | Tails - Tails 4.29 is out | Apr 06 09:42 | |
| techrights-news | "Australia's news media bargaining code is being reviewed after its first year of operation, but the Federal Government has signalled that it will not force any company that has not adhered to the requirements of the code to do so." https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html | Apr 06 09:42 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis-sp-481/open-sauce/news-media-code-review-will-go-easy-on-facebook-again.html | Apr 06 09:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - News media code review will go easy on Facebook again | Apr 06 09:43 | |
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| techrights-news | "As WikiLeaks founder and publisher Julian Assange remains in the UK's Belmarsh Prison, waiting for the next move in the US bid to extradite him" https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html | Apr 06 09:44 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/strategy/wikileaks-marks-12-years-since-release-of-collateral-murder-video.html | Apr 06 09:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - WikiLeaks marks 12 years since release of Collateral Murder video | Apr 06 09:44 | |
| techrights-news | Rocannon's World by Ursula K. Le Guin gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2021-01-19_rocannons-world.gmi | Apr 06 09:46 |
| techrights-news | Major lifestyle changes are required to stop global warming https://today.rtl.lu/news/luxembourg/a/1893347.html | Apr 06 09:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-today.rtl.lu | RTL Today - Luxembourg IPCC Representative: Major lifestyle changes are required to stop global warming, says Andrew Ferrone | Apr 06 09:47 | |
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| techrights-news | "Ministers said last year that privatization would help secure Channel 4's future as a public service broadcaster" https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html | Apr 06 09:49 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cnn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/05/media/channel-4-uk-privatization/index.html | Apr 06 09:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Channel 4: UK government to privatize public service broadcaster - CNN | Apr 06 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Last week, the EU reached an agreement on a core piece of platform regulation, the Digital Markets Act." https://felixreda.eu/2022/04/digital-markets-act-publishers-ancillary-copyright/ | Apr 06 09:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-felixreda.eu | Felix Reda – Digital Markets Act: Dispute over press publishers shows what’s wrong with EU legislation | Apr 06 09:49 | |
| techrights-news | Oligarch "Bloomberg opinion suggested we give Amazon and Facebook a seat at the United Nations as commercial superpowers" https://alirezahayati.com/2022/04/04/give-amazon-and-facebook-more-power-human-idiocy-has-no-limit-whatsoever/ | Apr 06 09:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alirezahayati.com | Give Amazon and Facebook more power? Human idiocy has no limit whatsoever! - Ali Reza Hayati | Apr 06 09:50 | |
| techrights-news | russian | Apr 06 09:53 |
| techrights-news | russian | Apr 06 09:53 |
| techrights-news | Misinformation/Disinformation thrives online https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ | Apr 06 09:53 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: theatlantic.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/04/russian-propaganda-zelensky-information-war/629475/ | Apr 06 09:53 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Stop Saying Ukraine Is Winning the Information War - The Atlantic | Apr 06 09:53 | |
| techrights-news | Boycott Twitter https://www.theverge.com/2022/4/5/23011810/elon-musk-twitter-sec-board-member-moderation | Apr 06 09:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Elon Musk tweeted his way onto Twitter’s board — now what? - The Verge | Apr 06 09:53 | |
| SomeH4x0r | corporations, the big evil, is winning | Apr 06 09:54 |
| techrights-news | Boycott Twitter https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ | Apr 06 09:54 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: salon.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.salon.com/2022/04/05/elon-musk-blows-up-twitter-with-board-of-directors-announcement/ | Apr 06 09:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Elon Musk blows up Twitter with board of directors announcement | Salon.com | Apr 06 09:54 | |
| SomeH4x0r | it is not on either side | Apr 06 09:54 |
| SomeH4x0r | just money matters for them | Apr 06 09:54 |
| SomeH4x0r | they will make whatever political claims to earn more | Apr 06 09:54 |
| techrights-news | Twitter is worthless. Graft scammers make a bubble, as usual. https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html | Apr 06 09:54 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-industry-news/market/twitter-shares-soar-after-elon-musk-9-2-stake-revealed.html | Apr 06 09:54 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Twitter shares soar after Elon Musk 9.2% stake revealed | Apr 06 09:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Twitter is shifting the way it does business, moving away from ad-generated revenue and into the crypto and NFT" (IOW a SCAM) https://screenrant.com/elon-musk-twitter-investment-crypto-project/ | Apr 06 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-screenrant.com | Did Elon Musk Buy His Way Into Twitter For Its Crypto Project? | Apr 06 09:55 | |
| techrights-news | ">The focus this time is about the practicalities of the user facing ‘shell’ — the cancerous and confused mass that hides behind the seemingly harmless command-line prompt." https://arcan-fe.com/2022/04/02/the-day-of-a-new-command-line-interface-shell | Apr 06 09:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arcan-fe.com | The Day of a new Command-Line Interface: Shell | Arcan | Apr 06 09:57 | |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | theyre winning because weve let them rig the entire world in their favour | Apr 06 09:58 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | that needs to change | Apr 06 09:58 |
| techrights-news | "Often these are journalists already established in their home country. But some like Zubova are new to the profession — and learning on the job" https://www.voanews.com/a/from-exporting-goods-to-the-news-ukrainians-swap-day-jobs-for-journalism/6514865.html | Apr 06 09:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.voanews.com | From Exporting Goods to the News: Ukrainians Swap Day Jobs for Journalism | Apr 06 09:58 | |
| techrights-news | And if you sue and the police loses, you (the taxpayer) will pay https://text.npr.org/1090857790 | Apr 06 09:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Supreme Court makes it easier to sue the police for malicious prosecution | Apr 06 09:59 | |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: npr.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://text.npr.org/1090857790 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://text.npr.org/1090857790 | Apr 06 09:59 | |
| techrights-news | Patents are again killing millions of people to increase profit https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/5/poor_peoples_campaign_2022_pandemic_report | Apr 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | A Poor People’s Pandemic: Report Reveals Poor Died from COVID at Twice the Rate of Wealthy in U.S. | Democracy Now! | Apr 06 10:02 | |
| techrights-news | Purism: A Vision in Focus • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163410 | Apr 06 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Purism: A Vision in Focus | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:02 | |
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| techrights-news | Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ | Apr 06 10:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights | Apr 06 10:12 | |
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| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | just catching up | Apr 06 10:13 |
| a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream | lol | Apr 06 10:13 |
| *a_taco_that_shits_ice_cream is now known as matey | Apr 06 10:13 | |
| techrights-news | "International music industry group IFPI has submitted its recommendations for the EU's upcoming 'Counterfeit and Piracy Watch List’." https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ | Apr 06 10:13 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: torrentfreak.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://torrentfreak.com/music-industry-flags-discord-and-reddit-as-primary-piracy-threats-220405/ | Apr 06 10:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Music Industry Flags Discord and Reddit as Primary Piracy Threats * TorrentFreak | Apr 06 10:13 | |
| matey | gnome is gnome-19 | Apr 06 10:13 |
| matey | i was right about twitter (for now) | Apr 06 10:13 |
| matey | oh, and debian is leaving behind gcc (i mean, they wont stop here) | Apr 06 10:14 |
| matey | put it in your talk, rms | Apr 06 10:14 |
| matey | nope, you wont | Apr 06 10:14 |
| matey | hopefully trisquel has their own build of firefux | Apr 06 10:15 |
| matey | otherwise theyll be just a little more of a farce. again. | Apr 06 10:16 |
| matey | rms: llvm/clang has only one purpose, to not be copyleft | Apr 06 10:16 |
| matey | trisquel: lets base on ubuntu | Apr 06 10:17 |
| matey | hilarity ensues | Apr 06 10:17 |
| matey | moot (and nicely so) if trisquel actually builds the entire repo | Apr 06 10:17 |
| matey | never was clear if they do that or just mirror packages that arent on the blacklist | Apr 06 10:17 |
| matey | should have a poke at some repos and check dates and hashes | Apr 06 10:18 |
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| techrights-news | Links 05/04/2022: NuTyX 22.04.1 and Ghostscript 9.56.1 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/nutyx-22-04-1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/nutyx-22-04-1/ | Apr 06 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 05/04/2022: NuTyX 22.04.1 and Ghostscript 9.56.1 | Techrights | Apr 06 10:21 | |
| techrights-news | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Logic Pro • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163411 | Apr 06 10:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple Logic Pro | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:23 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163412 | Apr 06 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:23 | |
| techrights-news | Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163413 | Apr 06 10:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:23 | |
| techrights-news | Mozilla Firefox 99.0: here is what is new http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163382#comment-33285 | Apr 06 10:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 99 Released with GTK Overlay Scrollbar Support, Fixes | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | basing on Ubuntu is doable | Apr 06 10:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but might be pointless | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | as it's debian+snap and other crap | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and lots of ICBM crap via Fedora | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's NOT as bad as Windows | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the main selling point | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | here's our marketing slogan | Apr 06 10:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | "LINUX: NOT AS BAD AS WINDOWS!" | Apr 06 10:27 |
| techrights-news | Social control media is generally a waste of time; no president (or state leader) was ousted because of the number of “likes” (they’re not even a currency) and all Social Control Media Web sites are short-lived bubbles of disorganised (mis)information http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-is-junk/ | Apr 06 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thoughts on Quitting Social Control Media, One Month Later… | Techrights | Apr 06 10:29 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter isn’t means of communication; Twitter looks like a dying platform desperate for attention; the above is an annotated screenshot of my notifications bar this morning (there’s more noise than signal) http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/twitter-is-spam/ | Apr 06 10:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Musk’s Bubble: Twitter Notifications Turned Into SPAM and Recommendations (to Drive Up ‘Engagement’ by Adding Noise) | Techrights | Apr 06 10:29 | |
| techrights-news | “This talk is about the IPv4 Unicast Extensions Project, which is proposing software and standards changes to eventually make reserved addresses usable." http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/ipv4-limits/ | Apr 06 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Just 2³² IPv4 Addresses for a Planet With Almost 2³³ People | Techrights | Apr 06 10:30 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163414 | Apr 06 10:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:30 | |
| techrights-news | The ‘free’ platforms one can sign up for online (GitHub, Twitter, YouTube and so on) aren’t free at all; their true cost is becoming more apparent over time http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/no-free-lunch/ | Apr 06 10:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Waiting for the Boat to Sink or Disembarking Early | Techrights | Apr 06 10:31 | |
| SomeH4x0r | stop reproduction | Apr 06 10:32 |
| SomeH4x0r | and drop a few nuclear bombs | Apr 06 10:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | you don't need both | Apr 06 10:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the likelihood of the second grows as a result of the first | Apr 06 10:34 |
| techrights-news | “antitrust reform” https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/senator-ken-buck-threatens-to-use-antitrust-to-attack-woke-apple/ Apple is NOT "woke". Apple is aggressive, oppressive, militaristic. | Apr 06 10:35 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rep. Ken Buck Threatens To Use Antitrust To Attack ‘Woke’ Apple | Techdirt | Apr 06 10:35 | |
| techrights-news | Quit calling tech companies "liberal"; you clearly know nothing about liberalism. http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/ | Apr 06 10:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | Techrights | Apr 06 10:36 | |
| techrights-news | "We’ve already talked about how Georgia looks to be moving forward with its clearly unconstitutional content moderation bill." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ | Apr 06 10:36 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/florida-has-already-wasted-over-700k-of-taxpayer-funds-defending-its-unconstitutional-content-moderation-bill/ | Apr 06 10:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Florida Has Already Wasted Over $700k Of Taxpayer Funds Defending Its Unconstitutional Content Moderation Bill | Techdirt | Apr 06 10:36 | |
| techrights-news | "Obituaries for Albright in the mainstream media described the expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization as her “greatest diplomatic achievement.”" https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ | Apr 06 10:37 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/albright-and-clinton-two-peas-in-the-pod-of-liberal-interventionism/ | Apr 06 10:37 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Albright and Clinton: Two Peas in the Pod of “Liberal Interventionism” - CounterPunch.org | Apr 06 10:37 | |
| techrights-news | "At its origins, we were promised the entry to The Golden Age of Computer Networks. Instead, what emerged under capitalism was the Internet becoming [...] gold mine for a handful of corporations." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ | Apr 06 10:38 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/three-internet-creating-ideologies/ | Apr 06 10:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Three Internet-Creating Ideologies - CounterPunch.org | Apr 06 10:38 | |
| mjg59_ | I feel like criticising NATO expansionism while Russia is invading a country that had expressly indicated it wanted to be part of NATO is a bit tone deaf? | Apr 06 10:39 |
| techrights-news | Has Bezos Post commented on it yet? https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ https://truthout.org/articles/bernie-sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-as-an-antidote-to-oligarchy/ | Apr 06 10:40 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/amazon-will-ban-words-like-union-living-wage-in-worker-app-documents-find/ | Apr 06 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Amazon Will Ban Words Like “Union,” “Living Wage” in Worker App, Documents Find | Apr 06 10:40 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Bernie Sanders Hails Growing Union Movement as an Antidote to Oligarchy | Apr 06 10:40 | |
| techrights-news | More on SweatshopZone ttps://truthout.org/articles/amazon-workers-at-over-50-buildings-have-contacted-the-union-about-organizing/ | Apr 06 10:41 |
| techrights-news | "Sen. Bernie Sanders delivered a floor speech on Monday hailing the growing wave of union victories across the United States" https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed | Apr 06 10:41 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/sanders-hails-growing-union-movement-threat-oligarchy-and-corporate-greed | Apr 06 10:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Sanders Hails Growing Union Movement as Threat to 'Oligarchy and Corporate Greed' | Apr 06 10:41 | |
| techrights-news | "SweatshopZone spent over $4 million in trying to defeat the union drive." https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ | Apr 06 10:42 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/the-growing-union-movement/ | Apr 06 10:42 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Growing Union Movement - CounterPunch.org | Apr 06 10:42 | |
| techrights-news | "The first step is to see if you’re already technically buzzword compliant. Do you have an existing system or product that fits that buzzword?" https://mwl.io/archives/15562 | Apr 06 10:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mwl.io | Kickstarter and Blockchain – Michael Warren Lucas | Apr 06 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | "I use a very custom desktop which requires me to do a lot of stuff by hand that's probably covered automatically (or with a general setting) by more standard desktops. With that said, the three big areas that I had to change were font selections, window sizes, and window positions." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII | Apr 06 10:44 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: utoronto.ca | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII | Apr 06 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/linux/HiDPIMyXSettingsII | Apr 06 10:44 | |
| techrights-news | "My answer was easy: HTML. And I wasn’t being sarcastic or mocking in the least. Sure, I pretty much know which tags to use in which instances and how to keep my HTML mostly semantic and accessible" https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ | Apr 06 10:44 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: smashingmagazine.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2022/03/html-attributes-you-never-use/ | Apr 06 10:44 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smashingmagazine.com | Those HTML Attributes You Never Use — Smashing Magazine | Apr 06 10:44 | |
| schestowitz | mjg59_: https://geographicalimaginations.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/backpage-11601.jpg?w=584 | Apr 06 10:45 |
| techrights-news | “He would just completely disengage, lie on the floor, start playing with the toys, literally turn his back to the computer, try to close it,” said mother Julia Toof of her son, who, at the time, was just shy of 3-years-old. “It just didn’t work.” https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ | Apr 06 10:47 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: projectcensored.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ | Apr 06 10:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/how-mask-wearing-to-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-impacts-children-in-speech-therapy/ ) | Apr 06 10:47 | |
| techrights-news | Elementary OS Faces Uncertain Future After Co-Founder Split http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/162346#comment-33286 | Apr 06 10:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | elementary OS is imploding | Tux Machines | Apr 06 10:48 | |
| techrights-news | EFF wrote this WHILE TAKING MONEY FROM GULAG https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/04/google-fights-dragnet-warrant-users-search-histories-overseas-while-continuing | Apr 06 10:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Google Fights Dragnet Warrant for Users’ Search Histories Overseas While Continuing to Give Data to Police in the U.S. | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Apr 06 10:49 | |
| techrights-news | flintfox has just killed itself https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html | Apr 06 10:50 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itwire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://itwire.com/it-people-news/people-moves/flintfox-appoints-microsoft-veteran-chris-dieringer-as-chief-customer-officer.html | Apr 06 10:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - Flintfox appoints Microsoft veteran Chris Dieringer as chief customer officer | Apr 06 10:50 | |
| techrights-news | The guitarist who saved hundreds of people on a sinking cruise liner - BBC News ⚓ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-60841291 ䷉ Source: bbc | Apr 06 10:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | The guitarist who saved hundreds of people on a sinking cruise liner - BBC News | Apr 06 10:51 | |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz: Sorry, is this supposed to indicate that NATO has engaged in genocide? | Apr 06 10:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | Roy: US has over 1,000 military bases worldwide | Apr 06 10:53 |
| mjg59_ | schestowitz: It wouldn't surprise me, but I'm not aware of any cases where NATO operations have been documented to execute tied up civilians | Apr 06 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | Matt the Empire Guy: Roy, are you defending genocide??? | Apr 06 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | reminds me why I should just ignore you | Apr 06 10:53 |
| mjg59_ | I'm trying to understand the point you're making! | Apr 06 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't wtry | Apr 06 10:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | leave me alone | Apr 06 10:53 |
| *ziraffep has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Apr 06 10:54 | |
| mjg59_ | Right now a country that wanted to join NATO to defend itself against a hostile neighbour has been invaded by that neighbour | Apr 06 10:54 |
| mjg59_ | Would it have been better or worse for them to have joined NATO? | Apr 06 10:54 |
| techrights-news | "On March 9th, we covered a Virginia court’s decision to reject a geofence/”reverse” warrant as unconstitutional." https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ | Apr 06 10:56 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/law-prof-suggests-geofence-warrants-are-a-net-gain-for-the-public-even-if-they-invert-the-probable-cause-standard/ | Apr 06 10:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Law Prof Suggests Geofence Warrants Are A Net Gain For The Public, Even If They Invert The Probable Cause Standard | Techdirt | Apr 06 10:56 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▁▃▁▁▆▇▁▅▇▁▆▂▁▂▁▅▄█▄▅▃▁▄▁▆▂█▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 31.50 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂█▁███▁▂▁▂▂█▂▁▁▁█▂▂▁▁▁█▂▂▆▃▂▆▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 105.05▕ swarm size (avg): 230.70 ⟲ | Apr 06 10:59 |
| techrights-news | "Inflation is at a 40-year peak." https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ | Apr 06 11:02 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/economy/as-prices-soar-we-need-action-not-spin/ | Apr 06 11:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | As Prices Soar, We Need Action—Not Spin | The Nation | Apr 06 11:02 | |
| techrights-news | Boycott Starbucks https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization | Apr 06 11:02 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/ceo-howard-schultz-ripped-saying-starbucks-being-assaulted-unionization | Apr 06 11:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | CEO Howard Schultz Ripped for Saying Starbucks 'Being Assaulted' by Unionization | Apr 06 11:02 | |
| techrights-news | Stop saying "Big Tech"; you help the lobbying of Microsoft criminals https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ | Apr 06 11:05 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: thenation.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/big-tech-congress/ | Apr 06 11:05 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | Big Tech Is Making an Investment in Congress | The Nation | Apr 06 11:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Normally when discussing a company that has appeared on our pages before for being a trademark bully" https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ | Apr 06 11:06 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/monster-energy-suing-a-fishing-gear-company-claiming-customer-confusion/ | Apr 06 11:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Monster Energy Suing A Fishing Gear Company Claiming Customer Confusion | Techdirt | Apr 06 11:06 | |
| techrights-news | israel exports malware https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ | Apr 06 11:06 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: techdirt.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.techdirt.com/2022/04/05/clearview-ai-walks-back-earlier-claims-is-now-willing-to-sell-its-sketchy-product-to-anyone-with-money-and-a-pulse/ | Apr 06 11:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Clearview AI Walks Back Earlier Claims, Is Now Willing To Sell Its Sketchy Product To Anyone With Money And A Pulse | Techdirt | Apr 06 11:06 | |
| techrights-news | GOP = Censorship https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave | Apr 06 11:08 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/library-group-launches-anti-censorship-campaign-combat-gop-book-banning-wave | Apr 06 11:08 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Library Group Launches Anti-Censorship Campaign to Combat GOP Book-Banning Wave | Apr 06 11:08 | |
| techrights-news | No money for life, just for killing people, or for war (also, more patents to kill more people for profit) https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds | Apr 06 11:09 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/04/05/aid-groups-warn-more-variants-will-emerge-if-congress-kills-global-covid-funds | Apr 06 11:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Aid Groups Warn 'More Variants Will Emerge' If Congress Kills Global Covid Funds | Apr 06 11:09 | |
| *DaemonFC (~daemonfc@en9btm8dsjebe.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 06 11:10 | |
| techrights-news | "According to the state of Georgia's Standards of Excellence for teaching the Reconstruction era to eighth-graders, students ought to "compare and contrast the goals and outcomes of the Freedmen's Bureau and the Ku Klux Klan." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction | Apr 06 11:11 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: commondreams.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/04/05/why-gop-very-afraid-students-learning-real-history-reconstruction | Apr 06 11:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Why the GOP Is Very Afraid of Students Learning the Real History of Reconstruction | Ursula Wolfe-Rocca | Apr 06 11:11 | |
| techrights-news | What GOP and Taliban have in common https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ | Apr 06 11:12 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: truthout.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://truthout.org/articles/tennessee-republicans-push-a-bill-that-would-circumvent-marriage-age-limits/ | Apr 06 11:12 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Tennessee Republicans Push a Bill That Would Circumvent Marriage Age Limits | Apr 06 11:12 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oops, posted to wrong channel | Apr 06 11:12 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Looks like Fedora 36 cleaned up all of the legacy "ifcfg* compatibility crap. | Apr 06 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Debian definitely still recognizes and prefers settings in legacy ifcfg format. | Apr 06 11:14 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora describes them as roughly 130,000 lines of dead code that's been hanging around forever causing bugs and maintainability problems. | Apr 06 11:15 |
| DaemonFC | "Not counting the massive testsuite." | Apr 06 11:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I saw that | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM is shit | Apr 06 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | It says that they date back to initscripts, so there's another large pile of sysvinit cobwebs gone. | Apr 06 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | I seriously doubt that anyone will want to maintain those now that Red Hat doesn't. | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | to them, | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about money | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and not about supporting hardware | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | Money? Keep. | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | No money? Remove. | Apr 06 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Well, here's the thing. | Apr 06 11:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | No sales?? STOP BEING POOR!!! | Apr 06 11:17 |
| DaemonFC | Debian 11 was super sketchy on my WiFi chip. | Apr 06 11:18 |
| schestowitz | lol https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ | Apr 06 11:18 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: counterpunch.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/04/05/strong-job-growth-in-march-but-some-evidence-of-slowing-wage-growth/ | Apr 06 11:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Strong Job Growth in March, But Some Evidence of Slowing Wage Growth - CounterPunch.org | Apr 06 11:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like asking a person who recovered from COVID if s/he feels better now | Apr 06 11:18 |
| DaemonFC | I've not had the kernel error about it becoming out of sync with the router and being killed and reset (causing an "activation of network connection failed" message in my notifications) under Fedora 36, so that's cool. | Apr 06 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Debian was pretty stable in most other ways though. | Apr 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: your connection still drops a lot | Apr 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | "trash can" | Apr 06 11:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | it can lose connection | Apr 06 11:19 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, I bought a fan to set it on. | Apr 06 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | weird, as you live in IL iirc | Apr 06 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's spring | Apr 06 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | It blows room air into the modem and out the top to prevent "modem on fire". | Apr 06 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | those routers should be OK with a weak processors | Apr 06 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you're only two connected users | Apr 06 11:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | sounds like a farce of a modem | Apr 06 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, BitTorrent going = NOKIA GO BRRRRRRRRR | Apr 06 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 11:20 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Apr 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR loves your car snoises | Apr 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | in words | Apr 06 11:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I cannot remember what noise that was that had him lol | Apr 06 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | This 5G Home Internet Pod is a piece of fucking shit. It's the biggest piece of shit I've ever used. | Apr 06 11:21 |
| DaemonFC | As far as networking goes, it's even out there ahead of the Broadcom 4318 WiFI chip. | Apr 06 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> I cannot remember what noise that was that had him lol | Apr 06 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | It's hard to say. There's so many. | Apr 06 11:22 |
| DaemonFC | I mailed my city sticker tax to "City of Potholes". They actually put "City of Progress" on the envelope so I crossed out Progress and put Potholes. | Apr 06 11:23 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC: your connection still drops a lot | Apr 06 11:24 |
| DaemonFC | It's a laptop, so it's nice to have it go down when I reboot for updates or shut down for the night or something instead of the modem died or the iwlwifi module in the kernel goes "WTF is this crap!?" because Debian fed it the firmware that time forgot. | Apr 06 11:25 |
| DaemonFC | iwlwifi - "I want 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode feed me 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode.". Debian: "I don't have 68.01d30b0c.0 QuZ-a0-hr-b0-68.ucode here, load iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-63.ucode it's from last year and Ryan went out of his way to get it for you so you didn't have to use firmware revision 62, and that was after he also went out of his way so you'd have firmware at all because Debian says "You don't need a computer that | Apr 06 11:29 |
| DaemonFC | works. Why don't you love us daddy Stallman?". | Apr 06 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | but wait | Apr 06 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | adding the blobs is not so hard | Apr 06 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | esp. with experience | Apr 06 11:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | you put some file on usb, then insert it | Apr 06 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | So them iwlwifi says "Okay, okay, give me iwlwifi-QuZ-a0-hr-b0-63.ucode.....om nom nom....I don't feel so good. SPLAT!" | Apr 06 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | the media itself, the installer, does not have it | Apr 06 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a catch-22 | Apr 06 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | as in order o fetch things from the NETWORK you might need a blog | Apr 06 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | to get NETWORKING going | Apr 06 11:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's why I could not put devuan on my new laptop | Apr 06 11:30 |
| DaemonFC | I have a lot of networking problems, you know. | Apr 06 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | Some of them are just the lag caused by NordVPN causing the connection on IRC timing out even though I never lost my connection. | Apr 06 11:31 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> the media itself, the installer, does not have it | Apr 06 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | The unofficial "oh you actually WANT your video chipset and wifi and SSD and sound to work?" ISO has the firmwares. | Apr 06 11:32 |
| DaemonFC | But Debian is incredibly juvenile and makes you suffer for asking it for firmware. | Apr 06 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: it is a one-time nuisance | Apr 06 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it also lets you minimise blobs | Apr 06 11:33 |
| DaemonFC | It throws in stuff that doesn't even support what their kernel does. | Apr 06 11:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | like, if you can use free software driver for thingsa | Apr 06 11:33 |
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| DaemonFC | Without blobs, I can't even get my SSD to work properly. It has one from the UEFI firmware, so it will work. | Apr 06 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | But potentially with data corruption problems that were fixed in a loadable firmware that the kernel can load early on. | Apr 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the firmware comes with its own risks | Apr 06 11:34 |
| DaemonFC | This is getting out of hand. | Apr 06 11:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | you focus on short-term convenience | Apr 06 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | the goal is to also get hardware companies to share the code | Apr 06 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | realtek got a lot of bad publicity for failing | Apr 06 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | There are not enough Debian users for those companies to care about. | Apr 06 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | untrue | Apr 06 11:35 |
| DaemonFC | So the situation is users not knowing what to do and having to hunt down unofficial ISOs. | Apr 06 11:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian is used on hundreds of millions of devices, maybe a billion | Apr 06 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | ubuntu counts too | Apr 06 11:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | corporations are EVIL | Apr 06 11:36 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora estimates the number of users based on who pings the update servers. It's not as accurate as if they actually tracked you. They don't. | Apr 06 11:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian is the "uniersal OS" | Apr 06 11:36 |
| SomeH4x0r | and such "universal" stuff is generally taken over by corporations | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | the same installs would be used for wired-only devices | Apr 06 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora supports quite a few platforms itself. | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | you wrongly assume only laptop/desktop users are targeted | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | their installers are foir archs | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | with different level of what's PRE-included | Apr 06 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | x86-64 PC, various arm systems including the Pi, and PowerPC obviously. | Apr 06 11:37 |
| DaemonFC | Ubuntu only does x86-64. | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you get it over the network when you download the ISO | Apr 06 11:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | instead of over apt AFTER you download the ISO | Apr 06 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | It gives Canonical less work to do because they don't delay a release because of failure to build on all of the architectures Debian has to maintain, but..... | Apr 06 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | debian benefits from it | Apr 06 11:38 |
| DaemonFC | Failure to build on something else can signal trouble on x86-64 as well. Just because it goes ahead and builds doesn't mean there's no problem. | Apr 06 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of distros are debian based | Apr 06 11:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | even ones you barely know because they're for particular countries | Apr 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then you have devices and board that have debian on them | Apr 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe even your modem | Apr 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's some debian thing, as nokia did based some of its operating systems on debian | Apr 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *base | Apr 06 11:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | fedora did support many archs | Apr 06 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | but ICBM lowers this | Apr 06 11:40 |
| psydruid | Ubuntu does x86-64, ARM, POWER, S/390 and RISC-V | Apr 06 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about money | Apr 06 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, but if they did then nothing stops them from throwing firmwares in. | Apr 06 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who obsess over "market share" | Apr 06 11:40 |
| DaemonFC | It's not something they care about. | Apr 06 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | because all that counts to them is money | Apr 06 11:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and pie charts to show shareholders | Apr 06 11:41 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, at one point Ubuntu was bragging about only supporting x86. | Apr 06 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe 2004 | Apr 06 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | 32bit and 64bit | Apr 06 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I think then too they had multiple | Apr 06 11:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check | Apr 06 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | They used to send me CDs for x86-32, x86-64, and PowerPC. | Apr 06 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have the original shipit CDs from 4.10 | Apr 06 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | So I was probably one of the first to use a 64-bit OS on a desktop PC. | Apr 06 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | iirc, they have athlon builds | Apr 06 11:42 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody was really doing that back then because there were so many hassles, including that Adobe refused to recompile Flash. | Apr 06 11:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I have physically before me: | Apr 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5.04 | Apr 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | and 5.10 | Apr 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot find the 4.10 | Apr 06 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | Mandriva wrote a "plugin wrapper" that pretended to be a 32-bit browser on one end for Flash and a 64-bit plug-in on the other for Firefox. :P | Apr 06 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | It actually worked okay considering. | Apr 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Version 5.05 for AMD64/EM64T" | Apr 06 11:43 |
| psydruid | I used Gnash in 2008 | Apr 06 11:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | contains live cd and install cd | Apr 06 11:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've cycled back and forth between distributions over the years and I have to say this is the saddest point in time. | Apr 06 11:44 |
| psydruid | 40% of a 2.4 GHz AMD Phenom core, but it worked | Apr 06 11:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | 5.04: "This PC Edition will run on Intel x86-based systems (including Intel Pentium adnd AMD Athlonm") | Apr 06 11:44 |
| psydruid | and 90% of a 400 PowerPC G4 core | Apr 06 11:44 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody really going their own way anymore. It's always Fedora or "We grabbed all this stuff from Fedora and managed to add more bugs.".. | Apr 06 11:45 |
| psydruid | which made me wonder why the x86 build was much less efficient with resources | Apr 06 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Even Mageia is moving towards scuttling all of the system management utilities they inherited from Mandriva. | Apr 06 11:45 |
| DaemonFC | Which is like, "What's the point in using this if it's just a Fedora clone?". | Apr 06 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | urpm and the various other tooling was actually one of the bright spots of Mandriva. | Apr 06 11:46 |
| bnchs | https://files.catbox.moe/fgr440.png | Apr 06 11:46 |
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| bnchs | powershell vs bash | Apr 06 11:46 |
| DaemonFC | The fact that instead of some fucking broken-ass thing like GNOME Software Center (It's been zero days without an accident.) or Plasma Discover (hardly any better), you had RPMdrake. | Apr 06 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | And it actually worked! | Apr 06 11:47 |
| DaemonFC | It's sad to hear they've been conned into giving up on RPMdrake and adopting KDE and GNOME's perpetually broken shit. | Apr 06 11:48 |
| techrights-news | Gee, LXer knows just what GNU/Linux people want to hear about: WSL. Making the same mistake other sites made (until they perished). WSL/2/g is a progressive attack on GNU/Linux, which never succeeded. They're just gnawing away at their won budget. Even Canonical stopped mentioning it! | Apr 06 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | Package management on GNOME and KDE is in a bad place right now and has been for years. Instead of just showing you packages with a description that you can check or uncheck and hit apply, they depend on "AppStream Data". | Apr 06 11:49 |
| DaemonFC | Did you know if you add RPM Fusion to Fedora, none of the applications appear until you add the "appstream" packages for their two repos? | Apr 06 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | a lot of people never install additional softwarer | Apr 06 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who do likely add blobs | Apr 06 11:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's where appimages step in | Apr 06 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | On a good day, gnome software only sits there and leaks and becomes enormous. On a bad day, it also corrupts its database and doesn't remember that you uninstalled something, leaving you no way to install it again without kill -9 on its pid and then deleting its cache folder and then rebooting. | Apr 06 11:51 |
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| techrights-news | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga runs on Steam Deck and GNU/Linux with GE-Proton | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/lego-star-wars-the-skywalker-saga-runs-on-steam-deck-and-linux-with-ge-proton/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 06 11:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga runs on Steam Deck and Linux with GE-Proton | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 11:51 | |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> that's where appimages step in | Apr 06 11:51 |
| DaemonFC | Appimagehub is an even bigger nightmare than Flathub or Snapcraft. | Apr 06 11:52 |
| DaemonFC | Especially when you consider that these things don't update or share their platform packages with anything else. | Apr 06 11:52 |
| techrights-news | It's bad that Liam uses Discord and encourages others to do the same https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/steam-deck-improves-offline-mode-switching-looks-like-a-lock-screen-is-coming/ | Apr 06 11:52 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Steam Deck improves Offline Mode switching, looks like a lock screen is coming | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 11:52 | |
| DaemonFC | So they waste more space, and rot and become massive security liabilities. | Apr 06 11:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | for offline stuff it might be OK | Apr 06 11:53 |
| DaemonFC | You can install Flatpaks per user, but you shouldn't. | Apr 06 11:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | but getting a new appimage for every browser release seems wrong | Apr 06 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | It's best to install them globally. | Apr 06 11:54 |
| DaemonFC | They will still store per-user settings in .var/app under your home folder. | Apr 06 11:54 |
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| techrights-news | French Debian-based SELKS 7 is out https://www.stamus-networks.com/open-source/#selks | Apr 06 11:55 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stamus-networks.com | Stamus Networks | SELKS | Apr 06 11:55 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: home directory | Apr 06 11:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | the only "folder" in gnu/linux/unix is email | Apr 06 11:55 |
| techrights-news | CloudReady 9.4.36 is out https://www.neverware.com/ | Apr 06 11:56 |
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| techrights-news | 10 Git tips we can’t live without | Opensource.com <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-tips"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 06 11:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-10 Git tips we can't live without | Opensource.com | Apr 06 11:57 | |
| techrights-news | I've used SVN and even CVS (way before Git). To say bullshit like Git is "the one to stay" is foolish. Of course something will replace Git; the question is what and when. Microsoft (read: criminals) GitHub already viciously attacks Git, turning it into proprietary crap. Maybe by intention, too (sabotaging the whole standard). | Apr 06 11:59 |
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| techrights-news | "Git tips are a dime a dozen, and it's a good thing because you can never get enough of them. If you use Git every day, then every tip, trick, and shortcut you can find is potentially time and effort saved." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/git-tips | Apr 06 11:59 |
| techrights-news | "Git is pretty famous for having lots of subcommands, like clone, init, add, mv, restore, bisect, blame, show, rebase, and many more." https://opensource.com/article/22/4/customize-git-subcommands I keep some aliases and scripts to speed things up | Apr 06 12:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Make your own Git subcommands | Opensource.com | Apr 06 12:00 | |
| techrights-news | Either Clownflare will be eradicated or the Web will be eradicated. We cannot have both. They cannot coexist. | Apr 06 12:01 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, this chest freezer sweats. | Apr 06 12:02 |
| DaemonFC | I remember back before Energy Star, they used to have a way to deal with this. | Apr 06 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | you know what you should do? | Apr 06 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | buy a bigger firdge | Apr 06 12:02 |
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| schestowitz-TR | put the existing one inside it | Apr 06 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | to keep it cool | Apr 06 12:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | no weat | Apr 06 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | no sweat, no more.. | Apr 06 12:03 |
| bnchs | https://files.catbox.moe/63mmco.jpg | Apr 06 12:03 |
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| DaemonFC | I'm told other people have the sweating problem with chest freezers they put in humid areas, like their basement. | Apr 06 12:03 |
| bnchs | stolen store phone being disabled and "tracked down" | Apr 06 12:03 |
| bnchs | tell me why is this in the firmware | Apr 06 12:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | in soviet russia, regime tracks down, disables journalism | Apr 06 12:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | In Soviet ICBM, Red Hat accesses 'secure boot', prevents the machine from even booting | Apr 06 12:05 |
| bnchs | so basically this in picture, a (unknown person) had attempted to steal an iphone from a store in Walnut Street | Apr 06 12:05 |
| bnchs | and i dont get why can the phone can be remotely disabled | Apr 06 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | In ICBM Dehomag (Deutschland), journalists are "foreign agents" and "terrorists" | Apr 06 12:06 |
| bnchs | and turned into a tracking machine | Apr 06 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | because that's what 'phones' became a decade ago | Apr 06 12:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people, most people, did not pay attention | Apr 06 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's MY phone, the "I" phone | Apr 06 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | now the same companies want to do the same to PCs | Apr 06 12:07 |
| bnchs | yeah i can imagine | Apr 06 12:07 |
| bnchs | stealing a PC from a store | Apr 06 12:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine all the journ... errrmmm I mean terrorists they can catch | Apr 06 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can proactively undermine many acts of journalism | Apr 06 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | like people exposing crimes of bill gates, elon musk, etc. | Apr 06 12:08 |
| bnchs | booting it, and it says "This device has been disabled and is being tracked down. Local authorities will be alerted." | Apr 06 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | who of course control the press and centeralised 'social' platforms now | Apr 06 12:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | so nobody will hear you, even if you shout | Apr 06 12:09 |
| bnchs | since its in the firmware | Apr 06 12:09 |
| bnchs | you can simply disable and track down any computers | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw | Apr 06 12:09 |
| bnchs | includin journalists | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't worry about the petty thief at the store... | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | ... as much as I worry about Apple | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | getting this power | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | sharing it | Apr 06 12:09 |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | wtih imperialistic regimes | Apr 06 12:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and awful small time regimes | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like qatar | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowingly or not knowingluy | Apr 06 12:10 |
| bnchs | you can trigger in any iphones | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | e.g. edbright? | Apr 06 12:10 |
| bnchs | including legally-brought ones | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | I forgot that the hypePhone cracking company was called | Apr 06 12:10 |
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| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: yes | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | the assumption they now nakedly make is | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | all customers ARE pedophiles | Apr 06 12:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | (prove us wrong) | Apr 06 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | all customers are thieves | Apr 06 12:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | (we need to watch your every move and have a kill switch with remote contro) | Apr 06 12:11 |
| DaemonFC | The chest freezer is pretty efficient. The power company isn't projecting much of a change to my bill. | Apr 06 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | This is "Stalin's dream" | Apr 06 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | complete control over people | Apr 06 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> complete control over people | Apr 06 12:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | via digital addendum | Apr 06 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | Stallman doesn't get the irony. | Apr 06 12:12 |
| schestowitz | https://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Apr 06 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Apr 06 12:12 | |
| bnchs | another example | Apr 06 12:12 |
| DaemonFC | He says he doesn't want you to have a phone because they'll control you, but you should vote in a government that controls everything you do. | Apr 06 12:13 |
| bnchs | stolen samsung TVs got remotely bricked | Apr 06 12:13 |
| schestowitz | gates must be creaming himself, seeing the direction computting has taken | Apr 06 12:13 |
| bnchs | once | Apr 06 12:13 |
| schestowitz | and here you are, DaemonFC, bashing people who work hard to discourage blind adoption of opaque binary blobs | Apr 06 12:13 |
| bnchs | the fact that remote bricking and tracking is in the firmware | Apr 06 12:13 |
| schestowitz | that can change at any time | Apr 06 12:13 |
| schestowitz | and we won't know what they do and CAN do | Apr 06 12:13 |
| DaemonFC | No you don't, but you nevertheless run some anyway. | Apr 06 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Whether they get loaded by the BIOS and have CVEs unpatched or whether they get replaced at OS boot time. | Apr 06 12:14 |
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| DaemonFC | Take a look at the intel-microcode package in Debian. | Apr 06 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: some machines do not demand these | Apr 06 12:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | or you could use ethernet | Apr 06 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Those CVEs they patch on the CPU you have? | Apr 06 12:14 |
| DaemonFC | Those affect you if you don't load the new microcode. | Apr 06 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | Oh sure the computer works, but.... | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | intel is a mess | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | that much we know | Apr 06 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | You just get your non-free firmware out of the BIOS and it will have more bugs. | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | so you could start with many simpler cpu cores in bulk | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | and for most tasks it'll be enough | Apr 06 12:15 |
| DaemonFC | CPUs have gotten too complex to try to reverse engineer some firmware that may run on them. | Apr 06 12:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | exactly | Apr 06 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | The ones that were possible to reverse are all so old now that they don't really run anything anymore. | Apr 06 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | And the hardware is breaking down of old age. | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but wait | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | some governments make their own sdesigned | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they have h"human" "resources" | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | they can adoppt risc-v | Apr 06 12:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | then mutiply that | Apr 06 12:16 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah. Loongson ironically uses free firmware, but you don't know that it's not backdoored. | Apr 06 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | and study the design properly, even fork it | Apr 06 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | They can run the backdoors in some other part of the CPU that the firmware doesn't affect. | Apr 06 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | So Stallman was using one of these, you know. | Apr 06 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: you could argue that chinese back doors are better than american ones for a US citizen | Apr 06 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the chinese gov. won;t' raid you in arizona | Apr 06 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | the US regime would | Apr 06 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | Why? Because China will have a harder time kidnapping me here than my government? | Apr 06 12:17 |
| DaemonFC | Yes, that is true. | Apr 06 12:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | not a novel point | Apr 06 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | (btw) | Apr 06 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | many people recognise that spying on them, e.g. as journalist, is less dangerous if done by some distant country | Apr 06 12:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | last month USDOJ indicted some russians | Apr 06 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you know, even using Ubuntu or Fedora is a lot better than leaving things how you got your PC. | Apr 06 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | for cybercrimes | Apr 06 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | now what? | Apr 06 12:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | you tell me... | Apr 06 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | We know for a fact Windows has a million things that spy on you and it was also poorly designed. | Apr 06 12:19 |
| DaemonFC | And nobody can look at anything it really does. It sends Microsoft, what are basically encrypted ZIP packages about you every day. | Apr 06 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | Containing several MB of data each. Nobody knows what's inside. | Apr 06 12:20 |
| DaemonFC | You can kind of guess based on the EULA, but they can violate that because it's encrypted and you'll never prove it. | Apr 06 12:20 |
| techrights-news | AMD has outsourced far too much code to Microsoft (criminals) GitHub, which is proprietary software. When "AMD" says "Open" (r combines these words, or "OpenGPU") read as "Microsoft junk"... | Apr 06 12:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: if there is a revolution | Apr 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | set aside just a revolt | Apr 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | they will know what to do with the data | Apr 06 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, You are right though about Fedora loading unnecessary firmware. | Apr 06 12:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they can pass PATRIOT ACT 2.x within days | Apr 06 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | Debian doesn't even package this firmware for iwlwifi called "yoyo" that's there for "debugging" purposes. | Apr 06 12:21 |
| DaemonFC | So the kernel complains but then it just carries on. | Apr 06 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora actually feeds it firmware it doesn't actually need in order to run. | Apr 06 12:22 |
| techrights-news | wp-surface-scale-v1: New protocol for fractional scaling (!143) · Merge requests · wayland / wayland-protocols · GitLab ⚓ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/wayland/wayland-protocols/-/merge_requests/143 ䷉ Source: gitlab | wayland | linux | graphics | Apr 06 12:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | wp-surface-scale-v1: New protocol for fractional scaling (!143) · Merge requests · wayland / wayland-protocols · GitLab | Apr 06 12:22 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: that's the issue | Apr 06 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | too much lenience | Apr 06 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | hardware companies: | Apr 06 12:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | if users are so eager to use whatever we throw at them, WHY CHANGE? | Apr 06 12:22 |
| DaemonFC | Right, if it's in the kernel's firmware tree, Fedora has it. | Apr 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | Including "yoyo". | Apr 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | So no attempt to strip it down to "Yeah, this sucks, but at least we're not loading things we don't even need.". | Apr 06 12:23 |
| DaemonFC | I just found it amusing that most distributions except Debian apparently don't bother to figure out that this entire firmware set gets loaded onto the WiFi chipset and doesn't even benefit the user or enable more features. | Apr 06 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | And we don't know what it does. | Apr 06 12:24 |
| DaemonFC | So they just load it and keep going. | Apr 06 12:24 |
| techrights-news | 7 Uses of grep Commands in GNU [Linux] https://medium.com/techtofreedom/7-uses-of-grep-commands-in-linux-cde98eb30eba | Apr 06 12:25 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-7 Uses of grep Commands in Linux. A super tool for string searching | by Yang Zhou | TechToFreedom | Apr, 2022 | Medium | Apr 06 12:25 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, It's worse with Ubuntu. | Apr 06 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | They build staging tree crap that pokes at UEFI bugs and kills PCs even though their users are almost certainly not using that driver. | Apr 06 12:26 |
| techrights-news | This spring there will be 2,000 active Gemini capsules gemini://gemini.bortzmeyer.org/software/lupa/stats.gmi | Apr 06 12:26 |
| DaemonFC | The intel-spi incident. | Apr 06 12:26 |
| techrights-news | "A few years ago I found a record player on the street. I took it home and, after a while of it getting in the way, it ended up in storage under the sofa, forgotten. A bit over three years ago I finally decided to get it out and make it work." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-12-30_record-player.gmi | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: they're 'doping' with blobs | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that can contribute to more complexity | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if they get more users | Apr 06 12:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | all sorts of unknown system crashes | Apr 06 12:27 |
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| DaemonFC | Distributions should be more careful about making sure everything they include has a purpose otherwise you just end up with a lot of unexploded bombs waiting to go off. | Apr 06 12:30 |
| techrights-news | ICBM thinks people "update your LinkedIn profile" (still boosting Microsoft; ICBM does this routinely) https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/3-tips-transition-new-role | Apr 06 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | New job remorse: 3 tips for handling struggles with a new position | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 06 12:30 | |
| DaemonFC | They're doing a lousy job of that even if they don't care what the license is. | Apr 06 12:30 |
| techrights-news | LinkedIn is oppression http://techrights.org/2020/06/28/linkedin-censorship/ | Apr 06 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When It Comes to Killing Businesses Microsoft Defends Its Crown | Techrights | Apr 06 12:31 | |
| techrights-news | ICBM: you need to suck up to the suits instead of doing your job properly https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/4/it-collaboration-ceo | Apr 06 12:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 4 IT leadership tips for collaborating with the CEO | The Enterprisers Project | Apr 06 12:31 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "unexploded bombs waiting to go off." | Apr 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | They're not unexploded bombs anymore | Apr 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | the term itself is weird | Apr 06 12:32 |
| DaemonFC | Well, intel-spi didn't break anything until it did. | Apr 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | every bomb the US makes or has | Apr 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | is "unexploded bomb" | Apr 06 12:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | because that's what bombs do | Apr 06 12:32 |
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| DaemonFC | There are still bombs the germans dropped all over Europe that can still go off today. | Apr 06 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, I know | Apr 06 12:33 |
| DaemonFC | They find one now and then and have to clear out the building. | Apr 06 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | one was blown up ina controlled setting recently | Apr 06 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | near here | Apr 06 12:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | you make it sound like a german proiblem | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | as if only "german engineering" left "unexploded bombs" | Apr 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | No, it's every war. | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | the west left tons of "unexploded bombs" for kids | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | "land mines" | Apr 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Ukraine will have it bad. | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and those are very hard to detect and remove | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also kill many animals | Apr 06 12:34 |
| DaemonFC | Half the shit the Russians drop doesn't go off right away. | Apr 06 12:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | how do you know? | Apr 06 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | What the Ukrainian government is reporting. | Apr 06 12:35 |
| DaemonFC | They're working around the clock digging out bombs the Russians sent that didn't explode. | Apr 06 12:36 |
| techrights-news | Ex-Snap Advocate at Ubuntu Creates a Tool to Help You Migrate from Snap to Flatpak http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163392#comment-33287 | Apr 06 12:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | A new tool 'unsnap' helps you move from Snaps to Flatpaks | Tux Machines | Apr 06 12:36 | |
| DaemonFC | Sounds like a revenge thing. | Apr 06 12:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like chernobyl | Apr 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | you deter people who wish to live there | Apr 06 12:38 |
| DaemonFC | Alan Pope was the one that got into it with me on Reddit when I called Snap and insecure engineering disaster and pointed at how they had definitely allowed in bitcoin miner trojans and god knows what else, and also pointed out that since they allow proprietary software, they couldn't audit some of them if they wanted to. | Apr 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | near the capital | Apr 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | too dangerous | Apr 06 12:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, clusters bombs have been reported | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | the ordinance is smaller | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | but lots of it | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | rescuers get killed too | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | humans are very inventive | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they find new ways to kill more people with some amount of chemicals | Apr 06 12:39 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: there should be seperation of proprietary software away from free software in snap | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "bullet sharing" | Apr 06 12:39 |
| bnchs | like debian | Apr 06 12:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | shoot a person in the mouth, then it hits another person at the back of the head | Apr 06 12:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | humans in a nutshell | Apr 06 12:40 |
| techrights-news | Launch Your First Jenkins Server in a Single Command | by Vladimir Mukhin | Apr, 2022 | Medium ⚓ https://vladimir-mukhin.medium.com/launch-your-first-jenkins-server-in-a-single-command-37f9e4d3407 ䷉ Source: vladimir mukhin | Apr 06 12:42 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vladimir-mukhin.medium.com | Launch Your First Jenkins Server in a Single Command | by Vladimir Mukhin | Apr, 2022 | Medium | Apr 06 12:42 | |
| DaemonFC | Canonical has it rigged to not even show you that it's proprietary. | Apr 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 06 12:42 |
| DaemonFC | At least Flathub doesn't do that. | Apr 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | Canonical started out OK | Apr 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | after Mark Shuttlecock took the cock to Sputnik | Apr 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | to prove his "manhood" | Apr 06 12:42 |
| bnchs | DaemonFC: thats too far | Apr 06 12:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | like bezos did | Apr 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | before he went al bold and bearded | Apr 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | but back then he was true to "Ubuntu", sort of... | Apr 06 12:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [19:55] <techrights-news> The company whose founder flew with Russia to space took 1.5 months to post this https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine | Apr 06 12:43 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/canonical-standing-with-ukraine | Apr 06 12:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Standing with Ukraine | Ubuntu | Apr 06 12:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Shuttleworth actually did make it into orbit though. | Apr 06 12:44 |
| SomeH4x0r | why post this? | Apr 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Bezos hasn't. | Apr 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | */bold/bald/ | Apr 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | SomeH4x0r: exactly | Apr 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | and why so late | Apr 06 12:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | they had no obligation to say anything | Apr 06 12:44 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, Shuttleworth ran scientific experiments, Bezos didn't. | Apr 06 12:45 |
| DaemonFC | And Shuttleworth's money at least funded part of the Russian modules at the ISS and thus benefited the project. | Apr 06 12:45 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163415 | Apr 06 12:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 06 12:45 | |
| DaemonFC | Bezos just wants to launch rich assholes into space. | Apr 06 12:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | same as dick branson | Apr 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | dick branson had this stupid plane thing | Apr 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | where going to "space" means just some high altitude | Apr 06 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Wait until there's an accident and they lose an entire crew of billionaires. | Apr 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | and you pay a fortune and pollute the planet | Apr 06 12:46 |
| DaemonFC | See how many want seats on the next one. | Apr 06 12:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like concorde | Apr 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it failed | Apr 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the rich people who wanted to shave off a few hours of travel did not feel it was worth the risk | Apr 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was always unsafe | Apr 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a military plane design | Apr 06 12:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | military planes fall a lot | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they don't really care | Apr 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it was recycled from the X70, wasn't it? | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they even assume failure | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they equip ALL the passengers with gear like parachutes | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | "passengers" | Apr 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | I know some people who used to work for defense contractors, Bell Labs, etc. | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | for jets just a pilot usually | Apr 06 12:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | fore bombers it's troops | Apr 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | Back when Bell Labs actually did do some really cool stuff. | Apr 06 12:48 |
| DaemonFC | You know, you could argue that the government breakup of AT&T is a lesson against antitrust law being used that way. | Apr 06 12:49 |
| DaemonFC | It cleared UNIX out of Microsoft's way and look where that ended up, and the baby bells started buying each other out and we're back to three phone companies again. | Apr 06 12:49 |
| techrights-news | Visual-inertial tracking for Monado ⚓ https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2022/04/05/visual-inertial-tracking-support-for-monado-openxr/ ䷉ Source: collabora | Apr 06 12:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.collabora.com | Visual-inertial tracking for Monado | Apr 06 12:49 | |
| bnchs | it should have been microsoft next | Apr 06 12:50 |
| DaemonFC | The government stopping AT&T from direct selling a UNIX OS and then NOT aggressively pursuing Microsoft was probably one of the greatest disasters in the history of computing. | Apr 06 12:51 |
| techrights-news | Lilbits: Another AMD handheld gaming PC, Volla Phone 22 (with Android or Ubuntu) ⚓ https://liliputing.com/2022/04/lilbits-another-amd-handheld-gaming-pc-volla-phone-22-with-android-or-ubuntu-and-asus-tinker-edge-r-single-board-computer.html ䷉ Source: liliputing | Apr 06 12:51 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lilbits: Another AMD handheld gaming PC, Volla Phone 22 (with Android or Ubuntu), and Asus Tinker Edge R single-board computer - Liliputing | Apr 06 12:51 | |
| DaemonFC | The BSD stuff was just the product of a different time. Today, a university would try to figure out a way to monetize it and it would end with nobody wanting to use a copy and then everyone forgetting about it. | Apr 06 12:53 |
| techrights-news | ...it's bad enough that Twitter (pure shit) denies you access unless you run some dodgy proprietary code; now it does the same to links, like t.co (in effect making those sites unreachable unless you run dodgy proprietary code from Twitter, not from those sites) | Apr 06 12:53 |
| techrights-news | Twitter is starting to resemble malware more and more each month. Even if you do not use their (cr)app. | Apr 06 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | Linux and BSDs have been so successful because they're valuable to big corporations who see that in exchange for investing some nominal amount of money they can make billions or trillions of dollars. | Apr 06 12:54 |
| DaemonFC | If you go and license something from Microsoft, all you get is having to buy more licenses later. | Apr 06 12:55 |
| DaemonFC | (And ransomware.) | Apr 06 12:55 |
| techrights-news | Years ago: Dangerous psychopath and serial thief Elon Musk uses Twitter to call innocent people "pedo guy" to 'settle scores' (Musk was sued for defamation!). Now: Musk is taking over Twitter. He wants his very own defamation machine. How much will we let oligarchs get away with? Gates and Bezos also buy the media. Zuckerberg wants us to think Facebook IS the media. | Apr 06 12:56 |
| techrights-news | The EFF's site has a tracker in all pages. It has its own subdomain. Sheesh!!! | Apr 06 12:57 |
| techrights-news | "RoenDi is a rotary encoder with an integrated round color display. Based on an STM32L4 MCU, it can be programmed with the STM32CubeIDE or the Arduino IDE, and be used as an information display, an IoT controller, a locking mechanism, as well as in audio applications." https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/roendi-rotary-encoder-color-display/ | Apr 06 12:57 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | RoenDi is a rotary encoder with a color display (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Apr 06 12:57 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▁▅▆▁▂▁█▁▄▆▇▇▁▂▅▂▁▅▅▇▇▂▂▃▃▇▁▅▃▁▆▁ avg(k/sec) 19.75 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▆█▁▂█▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▃▁█▂▃▁▂▂▂▂▁▂█▁▂▃▃█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 96.63▕ swarm size (avg): 303.66 ⟲ | Apr 06 12:59 |
| techrights-news | Gilmore, Barlow et al: let's make an advocacy group for digital issues. Cohn: let's oust Gilmore now that Barlow is dead and turn EFF into a political advocacy group, behaving like a company/business with lobbying as "services" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gilmore_(activist) | Apr 06 13:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | John Gilmore (activist) - Wikipedia | Apr 06 13:00 | |
| techrights-news | The Month in WordPress - March 2022 - WordPress News ⚓ https://wordpress.org/news/2022/04/the-month-in-wordpress-march-2022/ ䷉ Source: wordpress | Apr 06 13:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wordpress.org | The Month in WordPress – March 2022 – WordPress News | Apr 06 13:01 | |
| techrights-news | Thoughts dereferenced from the scratchpad noise. | ASUS KGPE-D16 Dasharo testing update ⚓ https://blog.3mdeb.com/2022/2022-03-23-kgpe-d16-testing-update/ "Unlike software testing, firmware testing does not only verify whether the code behaves as it is supposed to" | Apr 06 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.3mdeb.com | Thoughts dereferenced from the scratchpad noise. | ASUS KGPE-D16 Dasharo testing update | Apr 06 13:02 | |
| techrights-news | Sigh; medevel posting webspam or seo spam. Come on, stop turning otherwise-good site into pure trash. This is KILLING the WWW. https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ | Apr 06 13:03 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/ | Apr 06 13:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | 4 Tips To Boost EMR Efficiency | Apr 06 13:03 | |
| bnchs | https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Apr 06 13:04 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | Apr 06 13:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://medevel.com/4-tips-to-boost-emr-efficiency/aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa/ ) | Apr 06 13:04 | |
| techrights-news | I reckon the proportion of the WWW which is Webspam in disguise is already above 80% | Apr 06 13:04 |
| bnchs | jus testing | Apr 06 13:04 |
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| schestowitz-TR | what's the conclusion? | Apr 06 13:05 |
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| techrights-news | "The Postgres.ai team is happy to announce the release of version 3.1 of Database Lab Engine (DLE), the most advanced open-source software ever released that empowers development, testing, and troubleshooting environments for fast-growing projects." https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/database-lab-engine-31-pgbackrest-timezones-for-cli-dle-community-2432/ | Apr 06 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: Database Lab Engine 3.1: pgBackRest, timezones for CLI, DLE community | Apr 06 13:07 | |
| techrights-news | Burn plane fuel and pretend COVID doesn't exist anymore? https://www.postgresql.org/about/news/pgconf-nyc-2022-sep-22-23-call-for-papers-now-open-2431/ | Apr 06 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.postgresql.org | PostgreSQL: PGConf NYC 2022 (Sep 22 - 23) - Call for Papers Now Open! | Apr 06 13:08 | |
| techrights-news | Games: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, Steam Deck ’Offline Mode’, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163416 | Apr 06 13:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga, Steam Deck 'Offline Mode', and More | Tux Machines | Apr 06 13:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "If you're a friend and you've tried emailing twice, it's probably one of our mail handling systems. I suggest phoning me. It seems that in the last few years, large numbers of ISPs have started using "blacklists", even the ones that never did before." http://www.toad.com/gnu/#email | Apr 06 13:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.toad.com | John Gilmore's home page | Apr 06 13:10 | |
| schestowitz-TR | "The blacklisters hate me, so they put me on their lists, even though I have never sent a single spam message. They don't like the way I administer my machine. (I don't like the way they administer their machines either.) It will often be hard to get your ISP to admit that they are censoring your incoming email" | Apr 06 13:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | "Don't just let them put in an exception for mail from me. Get them to take off the blacklist on your incoming mail. It is usually hard -- but worth it. Who else's emails are you missing? Some of us figured out in the 1950s that blacklists were a bad idea." | Apr 06 13:10 |
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| techrights-news | Automating my home network with Salt - Federico's Blog ⚓ https://viruta.org/automating-home-network-with-salt.html "My colleague Richard Brown has been talking about the Salt Project for a few years. It is similar to tools for provisioning and configuration management like Ansible or Puppet." | Apr 06 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-viruta.org | Automating my home network with Salt - Federico's Blog | Apr 06 13:12 | |
| techrights-news | For a change, Linux Foundation does something related to Linux https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html | Apr 06 13:14 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: prnewswire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cip-expands-work-on-slts-kernel-maintenance-301518053.html | Apr 06 13:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | CIP Expands Work on SLTS Kernel Maintenance | Apr 06 13:14 | |
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| bnchs | using a website apparently written in ASP.net | Apr 06 13:16 |
| bnchs | it fucking crashes | Apr 06 13:16 |
| *schestowitz-TR looks at page source | Apr 06 13:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of js and spyware | Apr 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | <meta name="generator" content="Ghost 4.42"> | Apr 06 13:18 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySWEB2xqZ-o | Apr 06 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ySWEB2xqZ-o | Apr 06 13:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Fedora 35 Kinoite | A New Immutable Distribution Featuring KDE - Invidious | Apr 06 13:18 | |
| schestowitz-TR | it's still a security issue | Apr 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | when sites advertise not just the cms but also the version | Apr 06 13:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: but does it have a MASTER branch I can checkout from | Apr 06 13:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | from Microsoft? | Apr 06 13:19 |
| DaemonFC | It has trees. :) | Apr 06 13:20 |
| techrights-news | ICBM looking for slaves... I mean, testers https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/contribute-at-the-fedora-36-coreos-test-week/ | Apr 06 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Contribute at the Fedora 36 CoreOS Test Week – Fedora Community Blog | Apr 06 13:20 | |
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| bnchs | have you ever used a ASP website | Apr 06 13:22 |
| bnchs | that never responds to your request | Apr 06 13:22 |
| bnchs | or just responds with a ASP error page | Apr 06 13:23 |
| bnchs | because im having that | Apr 06 13:23 |
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| techrights-news | Latest Changes in EasyOS 3.4.4 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163326#comment-33288 | Apr 06 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest in EasyOS | Tux Machines | Apr 06 13:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: which site? | Apr 06 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking at Fedora 36 Kinoite on my older laptop. | Apr 06 13:23 |
| bnchs | a string length site | Apr 06 13:23 |
| DaemonFC | I also grabbed a nightly ISO of Fedora Silverblue. | Apr 06 13:24 |
| bnchs | dont have a terminal right now | Apr 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | is blue an OK colour? | Apr 06 13:24 |
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| DaemonFC | I just wanted to figure out if it really is frustrating to use an "immutable" OS or not. | Apr 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | "bitch please! It's deny mode, not dark mode!!" | Apr 06 13:24 |
| matey | if it really is frustrating to use an "immutable" OS or not <- endless os is like this too | Apr 06 13:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: sounds like chromeOS | Apr 06 13:24 |
| DaemonFC | KDE shouldn't have problems on my 2016 laptop anymore as it defaults to Wayland now. | Apr 06 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's the practical use case? | Apr 06 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | kiosk? | Apr 06 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | So it should handle HiDPI scaling. | Apr 06 13:25 |
| matey | really if flatpaks are a master feature, this is going to be how it works on some level | Apr 06 13:25 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> what's the practical use case? | Apr 06 13:25 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> kiosk? <- diot-friendly "linux" | Apr 06 13:25 |
| matey | you cant fuck it up because its all "apps" | Apr 06 13:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | only idiots don't change systems? | Apr 06 13:26 |
| matey | even if you want to | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | or rather, it's idiotic to do that? | Apr 06 13:26 |
| matey | this is not an endorsement, i think its a completely fucked up way of doing things | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | immutable is also misleading | Apr 06 13:26 |
| matey | if id seen this as the intended use of flatpak i would have railed against it sooner. | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the states change | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe at "the clown" | Apr 06 13:26 |
| matey | instead, i tried endless os and condemned it for this very thing a year or two ago | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you work with data set that is not immutable | Apr 06 13:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | the binaries rarely change either way | Apr 06 13:26 |
| matey | i mean you can change things in endless os, but modifying any installed program is a complete bitch | Apr 06 13:27 |
| matey | i wonder if easy os is this obnoxious | Apr 06 13:27 |
| matey | and dont get me wrong, the idea of read only images as "packages" is far from new | Apr 06 13:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a game where you only ever respawn | Apr 06 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | You can use package layering with rpm-ostree if you want. | Apr 06 13:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | but never progress in the game | Apr 06 13:28 |
| matey | its just they used to be done in a way that wasnt designed as a complete fuck-you to users | Apr 06 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | But really you're meant to use Flatpaks. | Apr 06 13:28 |
| matey | (and you could always unpack them and use them in a "mutable" way if you wanted | Apr 06 13:28 |
| DaemonFC | rpm-ostree would be useful in a case where nobody has made a Flatpak or that sort of application wouldn't work as a Flatpak. | Apr 06 13:29 |
| matey | if the entire file system is setup along these lines, its more of a conspiracy | Apr 06 13:29 |
| matey | of course people are going to take that literally, i mean it more lightly (but not tongue in cheek) | Apr 06 13:29 |
| matey | actually, theres a wiki entry about this very thing. | Apr 06 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | with flying saucers and stuff | Apr 06 13:30 |
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| matey | http://techrights.org/wiki/Librethreat_Database#Appliance-like_Distributions | Apr 06 13:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Librethreat Database - Techrights | Apr 06 13:30 | |
| matey | this is exactly what daemonfc is talking about | Apr 06 13:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | crAppliance | Apr 06 13:30 |
| DaemonFC | Deploying the image is taking a long time. | Apr 06 13:31 |
| DaemonFC | Then again, it's installing from kind of a crummy USB 2 thumbdrive. | Apr 06 13:31 |
| matey | "Some distros seem to be designed with building more restrictions into the user experience as a priority-- making GNU/Linux better simulate or act as a non-free platform." "Examples: Chrome OS, Endless OS, Android, Elementary OS" | Apr 06 13:31 |
| matey | the goal of flatpak seems to be to drag the gnu/linux distro towards something more like android. | Apr 06 13:32 |
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| matey | android meanwhile, is a pile of shit that fucks over users | Apr 06 13:32 |
| matey | but im sure the goals overlap more than not-- android is supposd to be idiot-proof | Apr 06 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Ah there we go. | Apr 06 13:32 |
| matey | you cant DO ANYTHING to it, so you cant break it, so it wont break | Apr 06 13:32 |
| DaemonFC | Unpacking objects. | Apr 06 13:33 |
| matey | which of course, is bullshit. but thats the idea. | Apr 06 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Deploying OSTree. | Apr 06 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Installing Flatpak applications. | Apr 06 13:33 |
| DaemonFC | Reticulating splines.... | Apr 06 13:33 |
| matey | computer: break distro | Apr 06 13:33 |
| matey | computer says no. | Apr 06 13:33 |
| bnchs | baby proof gnu/linux | Apr 06 13:33 |
| matey | its technically free software | Apr 06 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | I'm not sure that Silverblue will ever replace Fedora Workstation. | Apr 06 13:34 |
| matey | but it simulates proprietary software | Apr 06 13:34 |
| bnchs | computer: break distro | Apr 06 13:34 |
| DaemonFC | I mean it hasn't so far and it's been around for years now. | Apr 06 13:34 |
| bnchs | computer: uh uh you didnt say the magic word | Apr 06 13:34 |
| matey | and the more free software does this-- the more it simulates proprietary software | Apr 06 13:35 |
| matey | the farther users get from controlling their computing, but since you have the source and the license the fsf cant say shit | Apr 06 13:35 |
| matey | now, the fsf HAS come out against these packages | Apr 06 13:35 |
| DaemonFC | Configuration file kwinrc not writable. Contact your system administrator. | Apr 06 13:36 |
| matey | but only because they said the main goal seems to be offering proprietary "Apps" like skype | Apr 06 13:36 |
| bnchs | contact your sysadmin | Apr 06 13:36 |
| bnchs | I AM THE ADMIN | Apr 06 13:36 |
| matey | the thing is, even if you made a trisquel-like version of this | Apr 06 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | But then it went to the log in screen and then to the desktop. | Apr 06 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | Everything is scaled properly. Ohhhhh. Nice. | Apr 06 13:36 |
| matey | you still dont have control of it unless you want to go through MORE and MORE and every more fucking shit | Apr 06 13:36 |
| DaemonFC | Let's see what's going on here. | Apr 06 13:37 |
| matey | every time dfc fixes something it takes a day and a half and they break 2 or 3 more things | Apr 06 13:37 |
| matey | it doesnt take a computer scientist to see where this is going | Apr 06 13:37 |
| bnchs | matey: like popos baby proofing their package manager | Apr 06 13:37 |
| matey | although there are computer scientists who see where this is going | Apr 06 13:37 |
| bnchs | pop!os* | Apr 06 13:37 |
| bnchs | after linus the retard broke his distro | Apr 06 13:38 |
| matey | read that as "po-pos" | Apr 06 13:38 |
| matey | "watch out the po-pos are busting the os" | Apr 06 13:38 |
| psydruid | total annihilation or violent pacification? pick your poison! | Apr 06 13:38 |
| bnchs | linus should go back to windows | Apr 06 13:39 |
| matey | binkyOS | Apr 06 13:39 |
| bnchs | after all | Apr 06 13:39 |
| matey | anyway, distros pushing flatcrap should be nuked from orbit | Apr 06 13:39 |
| bnchs | flatpak is bloated crap | Apr 06 13:40 |
| matey | but since its all marketing now anyway, people love this stupid shit | Apr 06 13:40 |
| matey | unless they know better | Apr 06 13:40 |
| bnchs | i dont want my home directory to be anymore dirty | Apr 06 13:40 |
| matey | and snap is still worse, because it gives ubuntu a monopoly | Apr 06 13:41 |
| matey | so fuck both of those | Apr 06 13:41 |
| techrights-news | GNU/Linux is already killing Windows in games... in some sense https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ | Apr 06 13:41 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gpd-are-getting-quite-desperate-against-the-steam-deck/ | Apr 06 13:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GPD are getting quite desperate against the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 13:41 | |
| matey | this is literally how macs have distributed software for 10 years | Apr 06 13:41 |
| matey | even that was saner though | Apr 06 13:41 |
| matey | 10 years (im sure its longer) | Apr 06 13:42 |
| techrights-news | "it's now fully Verified with the Native GNU/Linux build" https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ | Apr 06 13:43 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/space-haven-adds-gamepad-support-gets-steam-deck-verified/ | Apr 06 13:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Space Haven adds gamepad support, gets Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 13:43 | |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I told it to install wine using rpm-ostree. | Apr 06 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | And it's downloading an entirely new ostree. | Apr 06 13:45 |
| bnchs | hahah | Apr 06 13:45 |
| DaemonFC | On the upside, KDE seems to actually work on this laptop 6 years later. | Apr 06 13:46 |
| matey | im sure what actualled happened though | Apr 06 13:46 |
| matey | is everyone liked docker so much, they were like | Apr 06 13:46 |
| matey | "we should replace package management with docker!" | Apr 06 13:46 |
| DaemonFC | That does seem to be what's going on here. | Apr 06 13:47 |
| matey | "cool! one operating system for every application!" | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | docker is a bubble | Apr 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, you want to install one package? First you have to update the ENTIRE operating system! | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | the company docker still loses money | Apr 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and borrows | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | then claims to be worth billions | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for BORROWING | Apr 06 13:47 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> the company docker still loses money <- you say this about every single problem free software faces | Apr 06 13:47 |
| DaemonFC | It should be able to just apply the changes to the ostree, like a git checkout, right? | Apr 06 13:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "mom, dad, can I borrow some money? Woohoo! Now I'm worth 10 times the amount I borrowed...' | Apr 06 13:48 |
| matey | github, systemd, docker, etc | Apr 06 13:48 |
| matey | mozilla | Apr 06 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | no!zilla | Apr 06 13:48 |
| matey | every nasty shithole development tam is going out of business | Apr 06 13:48 |
| matey | real soon now | Apr 06 13:48 |
| matey | team ^ | Apr 06 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | no pentagon bailouts | Apr 06 13:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | play ball, get money from taxpayers | Apr 06 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | perpetual bailout | Apr 06 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | until the system runs out | Apr 06 13:49 |
| matey | meanwhile, gnu and linux are in the toilet | Apr 06 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the USSR | Apr 06 13:49 |
| matey | but we will fish them out when every company goes under | Apr 06 13:49 |
| matey | as if there will be anything left to salvage | Apr 06 13:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they've been besieged for ages | Apr 06 13:49 |
| techrights-news | Games: Steam Deck and Humble Choice • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163417 | Apr 06 13:50 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> like the USSR <- the "ussr" seems to still be causing major problems for the world nearly 100 years later | Apr 06 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam Deck and Humble Choice | Tux Machines | Apr 06 13:50 | |
| schestowitz-TR | examples: | Apr 06 13:50 |
| matey | of course its not really the ussr anymore | Apr 06 13:50 |
| matey | it collapsed decades ago | Apr 06 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Novell: let's become buddies with MSFT for competitve advantage | Apr 06 13:50 |
| matey | still somehow manages to invade ukraine, with almost no support from the world. | Apr 06 13:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Ubuntu: let's become Mir/unity/Snap (later mates with MSFT, too) for competitive advantage | Apr 06 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM/RatCrap: let's make systemd and get loads of software patents for competitive advantage | Apr 06 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they basically don't cooperate enough | Apr 06 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it slows down progress | Apr 06 13:51 |
| matey | theyre loose alliances, always | Apr 06 13:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | like LF | Apr 06 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even Linux | Apr 06 13:52 |
| matey | but this is the thing | Apr 06 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | Vmware, microsoft, facebook | Apr 06 13:52 |
| matey | theyre constantly working to replace gnu/linux with Some Other Shit | Apr 06 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | 0xDEADMETA | Apr 06 13:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | (not hex)\ | Apr 06 13:53 |
| matey | google: android ubuntu: snap ibm: systemd-flatcrapd | Apr 06 13:53 |
| matey | Anything But Free Software! | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | free pays less | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | or does not pat | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | because the user is in control | Apr 06 13:53 |
| matey | non-free free software (nffs) | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and isn't compelled to pay | Apr 06 13:53 |
| matey | or at least less-free free software (lffs) | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | immuntable FS | Apr 06 13:53 |
| matey | freedom-free software (ffs) | Apr 06 13:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | the freedom to NOT modify | Apr 06 13:54 |
| matey | freedom 3 is always getting shit on | Apr 06 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | Valve now FUDs people who unlock the FS | Apr 06 13:54 |
| matey | bicycle: "you can modify and redistribute me!" | Apr 06 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous | Apr 06 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | Wine does work. | Apr 06 13:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | like Rotten Apple with "sideloading" | Apr 06 13:54 |
| DaemonFC | I just installed foobar2000 on KDE. It looks oddly right at home. | Apr 06 13:54 |
| matey | red hat bicycle: "you can modify and redistribute me too! though you might have more trouble, as im mostly designed to pour sidewalks!" | Apr 06 13:55 |
| schestowitz | malware + clown = https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ | Apr 06 13:55 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ghacks.net | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-improves-its-cloud-pc-offering-windows-365/ | Apr 06 13:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ghacks.net | Microsoft improves its cloud PC offering Windows 365 - gHacks Tech News | Apr 06 13:55 | |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous <_ UEFI/SB for packages! | Apr 06 13:55 |
| schestowitz | who would NEED this? | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz | we have WINE | Apr 06 13:56 |
| matey | SecurePack! | Apr 06 13:56 |
| psydruid | "Valve is our best friend forever" | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | [13:55] <matey> <schestowitz-TR> insinuating that having a file system you can write to is dangerous <_ UEFI/SB for packages! | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | this exists already | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | Gulag- and ICBM-led | Apr 06 13:56 |
| matey | you need secureboot so you know that ostree is secure when it loads your securepack packages | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | sigstore | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | by Zemlin Foundation | Apr 06 13:56 |
| DaemonFC | I installed Flathub since Fedora's Flatpak repo is very sparse. | Apr 06 13:56 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> this exists already <- everything is new! everything is betterer! | Apr 06 13:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | The Sheela and James Zemlin Foundry | Apr 06 13:57 |
| matey | floundry | Apr 06 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | you can say THAT again | Apr 06 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | usually the "legit" apps are MORE dangerous than derivs | Apr 06 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "official" skype | Apr 06 13:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they want you to think "wrong" Windows is bad | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | consider what "authorised" Windows does | Apr 06 13:58 |
| matey | secureboot: make sure you use windows (but not in theory, only in practice) | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then tell me to my face "SECURE boot" | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's malware | Apr 06 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | I'm actually considering rolling this out to my main laptop. | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's secure about that? | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | Who is it secure TO? | Apr 06 13:58 |
| matey | ostree: make sure you only have shitty packages (but only in practice) | Apr 06 13:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know, maybe I've gone crazy. | Apr 06 13:58 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> I don't know, maybe I've gone crazy. <- i think youre a masochist | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | trey kde neon | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use that | Apr 06 13:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's well packages kde with many little changes and additions | Apr 06 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | kde neon had a release days ago | Apr 06 13:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | being masochist is OK | Apr 06 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | with I & D we have QUOTAS for "masochist" | Apr 06 14:00 |
| matey | yeah its basically a right | Apr 06 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | for hire: masochists | Apr 06 14:00 |
| matey | but its no way to design a distro (imo) | Apr 06 14:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need 1% masochists, according to new D &I policy | Apr 06 14:00 |
| matey | ive had friends into bdsm, it just sucks that every distro is made for them and not anyone else | Apr 06 14:01 |
| matey | IBdsM | Apr 06 14:01 |
| schestowitz | https://www.maketecheasier.com/elon-musk-twitter-edit-button/ | Apr 06 14:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Do We Have Elon Musk to Thank for a Twitter Edit Button? - Make Tech Easier | Apr 06 14:01 | |
| schestowitz | Worship BS | Apr 06 14:01 |
| schestowitz | matey: fetishn for nukes | Apr 06 14:01 |
| schestowitz | ICBDSM | Apr 06 14:01 |
| matey | there you go | Apr 06 14:01 |
| schestowitz | jerk that rocket | Apr 06 14:02 |
| schestowitz | (me looks at bezos) | Apr 06 14:02 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you know larrison and paul allen (microsloth) competed for largest... yacht? | Apr 06 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point of custom-making them (IIRC) so that "the tip" goes further? | Apr 06 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is how sick these people are | Apr 06 14:03 |
| matey | "weve designed a new heat-resistant shield for bleworigin to protect it on reentry" *rolls large polymer sheath over rocket* | Apr 06 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and meanwhile many are homeless in the same cities | Apr 06 14:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many homes intentioanllu vacent | Apr 06 14:03 |
| matey | "always practice safe reeentry!" | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | vacant to keep the price up | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | did you know how watson died? | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | the son | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | fell off the stairs at home | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | or some staircase | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | or floor | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't survive it at hospital | Apr 06 14:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe he was driunk | Apr 06 14:05 |
| matey | how large was the staircase? | Apr 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | arthor | Apr 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | had drinking issues | Apr 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: I'd need to read up on it again | Apr 06 14:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | the family would likely save face by not giving the full story | Apr 06 14:05 |
| matey | sure but sometimes details slip out | Apr 06 14:05 |
| matey | from 3rd parties | Apr 06 14:05 |
| matey | i mean we know an awful lot about jeff epstein | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | the other son was a stupid man | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and womaniser | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | didn't succeed in anything, his dad had to step in | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and buy him a career | Apr 06 14:06 |
| matey | like gates mom | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | except gates was not stupid | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | to be fair | Apr 06 14:06 |
| matey | shrewd at least | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was a good student until college, which is where he struggled a bit | Apr 06 14:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, the watsons were the sort of family that would not let you inside the home | Apr 06 14:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | you're not their class | Apr 06 14:07 |
| techrights-news | Using the regexp-parser of syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community ⚓ https://www.syslog-ng.com/community/b/blog/posts/using-the-regexp-parser-of-syslog-ng ䷉ Source: syslog-ng | Apr 06 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using the regexp-parser of syslog-ng - Blog - syslog-ng Community - syslog-ng Community | Apr 06 14:08 | |
| *CrystalMath (~coderain@yt8kefdbryumc.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 06 14:08 | |
| techrights-news | Kosovo https://bits.debian.org/2022/04/debconf22-infomaniak-platinum.html see https://danielpocock.com/how-kosovo-won-debconf21/ | Apr 06 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bits.debian.org | Infomaniak Platinum Sponsor of DebConf22 - Bits from Debian | Apr 06 14:09 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | How Kosovo won DebConf21 | Apr 06 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | [PATCH 00/12] Introducing AMD x2APIC Virtualization (x2AVIC) support. - Suravee Suthikulpanit ⚓ https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220405230855.15376-1-suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com/ | Apr 06 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH 00/12] Introducing AMD x2APIC Virtualization (x2AVIC) support. - Suravee Suthikulpanit | Apr 06 14:11 | |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to see we're back to the bad old days where you have theming problems with the other desktop's apps. | Apr 06 14:11 |
| matey | the thing about graphical applications is theyre made with graphical toolkits | Apr 06 14:12 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: photo https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Linux-x2AVIC-Patches | Apr 06 14:12 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Readies Linux Patches For x2AVIC Support - Phoronix | Apr 06 14:12 | |
| DaemonFC | Then again, KDE and Qt have more applications than GTK/GNOME and certainly more good ones. | Apr 06 14:12 |
| matey | the thing about graphical toolkits is none of them are suitable. | Apr 06 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | I don't even know why I use GNOME at this point. | Apr 06 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty obvious they're incompetent and don't give a shit. | Apr 06 14:12 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> I don't even know why I use GNOME at this point. <- i wasnt kidding about the masochist thing | Apr 06 14:12 |
| DaemonFC | Like this icons problem. | Apr 06 14:12 |
| psydruid | schestowitz, I don't read his AMD or Intel stuff anymore | Apr 06 14:12 |
| schestowitz | EPYC 7003 | Apr 06 14:12 |
| schestowitz | half a dozen | Apr 06 14:13 |
| schestowitz | let's see market price | Apr 06 14:13 |
| matey | advanced marketing douchebags | Apr 06 14:13 |
| psydruid | now it reads like being stuck in 2005 | Apr 06 14:13 |
| schestowitz | seems like "new arrrivals" | Apr 06 14:13 |
| psydruid | the world has moved on | Apr 06 14:13 |
| schestowitz | 6000pounds for the 64 core one | Apr 06 14:13 |
| schestowitz | goes up to almost 10000 | Apr 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz | per unit | Apr 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz | so that photograph is an annual salry | Apr 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz | a GOOD salary | Apr 06 14:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | "you turn, Intel" - bwahaha, microbell | Apr 06 14:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | *youir | Apr 06 14:16 |
| techrights-news | Lots of Ponzi schemes out there. Some more "legit" and "honourable" than others. https://medevel.com/corporations-that-have-created-their-own-cryptocurrency/ NFTs is the funniest of all; too many people took "schrooms"? | Apr 06 14:17 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Corporations That Have Created Their Own Cryptocurrency | Apr 06 14:17 | |
| techrights-news | Arducam Pi Hawk-eye is a 64MP camera for Raspberry Pi 4/CM4 - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/arducam-pi-hawk-eye-64mp-camera-raspberry-pi-4-cm4/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | Apr 06 14:18 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Arducam Pi Hawk-eye is a 64MP camera for Raspberry Pi 4/CM4 - CNX Software | Apr 06 14:18 | |
| techrights-news | 100%!!!! 100%!!!! 100%!!!! 100%!!!! 100%!!!! Just like PFIZER! https://www.itweb.co.za/content/Olx4zMkndbL756km | Apr 06 14:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | Cybereason achieves 100% prevention, visibility, real-time protection | ITWeb | Apr 06 14:21 | |
| DaemonFC | Some of the automated tests on the KDE nightly live ISO failed. | Apr 06 14:21 |
| bnchs | cybereason achieves 100% prevention | Apr 06 14:21 |
| bnchs | cybersecurity hack happens | Apr 06 14:21 |
| bnchs | it now achieves 98% prevention | Apr 06 14:21 |
| bnchs | another one | Apr 06 14:21 |
| bnchs | 95% | Apr 06 14:22 |
| techrights-news | Company: our company 'research' shows 100% success! Verified by company! | Apr 06 14:22 |
| DaemonFC | Humorously, the desktop_login test failed because a button moved in KDE and the test suite failed to click on it. | Apr 06 14:22 |
| bnchs | another one | Apr 06 14:22 |
| bnchs | 80% | Apr 06 14:22 |
| bnchs | another one | Apr 06 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: oooh ohhhh... | Apr 06 14:22 |
| bnchs | 20% | Apr 06 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | take the one with 100% | Apr 06 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | it must be DA BEST | Apr 06 14:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: my program works 100% of the time | Apr 06 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | I know because I ran it once | Apr 06 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | for a fragment of a second | Apr 06 14:23 |
| bnchs | yes | Apr 06 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | ship to product team! | Apr 06 14:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | marketing marketing marketing marketing | Apr 06 14:23 |
| bnchs | it leaked 10 MB of memory | Apr 06 14:23 |
| bnchs | but still works | Apr 06 14:23 |
| bnchs | SHIP | Apr 06 14:23 |
| schestowitz | Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | Multimedia | Apr 06 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage - Invidious | Apr 06 14:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs: don't tell us more | Apr 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | we do NOT want to know | Apr 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | show stoppers? no. | Apr 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's bad for revenue | Apr 06 14:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | no more delays | Apr 06 14:25 |
| bnchs | fuck working efficiently | Apr 06 14:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | the maid of Arnold Schwarzenegger was 100% fertile | Apr 06 14:25 |
| bnchs | do tons of code workarounds | Apr 06 14:25 |
| bnchs | *((struct hospital_data_t*)&data) | Apr 06 14:26 |
| techrights-news | Borat trojan https://www.itworldcanada.com/article/cyber-security-today-april-6-2022-patch-linux-fast-secure-your-totolink-routers-news-on-the-new-borat-trojan-and-more-russia-ukraine-cyberwar/479456 | Apr 06 14:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itworldcanada.com | Cyber Security Today, April 6, 2022 – Patch Linux fast, secure your Totolink routers, news on the new Borat trojan and more Russia-Ukraine cyberwar | IT World Canada News | Apr 06 14:26 | |
| bnchs | what if the struct changes | Apr 06 14:26 |
| bnchs | dont give a shit | Apr 06 14:26 |
| techrights-news | Borat trojan. Is nice? | Apr 06 14:27 |
| techrights-news | Grub4dosconfig startup fixed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163326#comment-33289 | Apr 06 14:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest in EasyOS | Tux Machines | Apr 06 14:29 | |
| techrights-news | Tachyum Successfully Runs FreeBSD in Prodigy Ecosystem; Expands Open-Source OS Support | Tachyum ⚓ https://www.tachyum.com/media/press-releases/2022/04/05/tachyum-successfully-runs-freebsd-in-prodigy-ecosystem-expands-open-source-os-support/ ䷉ Source: tachyum | Apr 06 14:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tachyum Successfully Runs FreeBSD in Prodigy Ecosystem; Expands Open-Source OS Support | Tachyum | Apr 06 14:30 | |
| matey | <schestowitz> Steve Ballmer Going Crazy on Stage <- good thing oprahs couch wasnt around | Apr 06 14:31 |
| techrights-news | Deployd: The REST-API toolkit is not active anymore. https://medevel.com/deployd-rest-api/ Microsoft shithub. | Apr 06 14:32 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Deployd: The REST-API toolkit is not active anymore. | Apr 06 14:32 | |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: lol | Apr 06 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | tom cruisew | Apr 06 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | mental show for mental audience | Apr 06 14:32 |
| matey | tom cruise: developers! developers! developers! | Apr 06 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | "dr" phil | Apr 06 14:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and cookoos from Church of Scientology | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, oprah is a shill for bill gates | Apr 06 14:33 |
| matey | phil had his license revoked | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't ask me if she's also fronting for "rich people" | Apr 06 14:33 |
| matey | oprah is a very rich woman. of course shes going to shill for very rich people | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 06 14:33 |
| matey | plus he does a lot work for CHARITY but doesnt like to talk about it | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have lots more to say | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | but she contributed to the dumbing down of USP | Apr 06 14:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | *USA | Apr 06 14:33 |
| matey | i doubt she was a significant factor really | Apr 06 14:34 |
| matey | so many stupid talk shows | Apr 06 14:34 |
| *gooseheaded has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Apr 06 14:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | jerry springer became mainstream | Apr 06 14:35 |
| matey | dr phil not as bad as | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | not it's rebranded | Apr 06 14:35 |
| matey | i was just going to say | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's called "the oscars" | Apr 06 14:35 |
| matey | dr phil wasnt as bad as springer | Apr 06 14:35 |
| matey | and i fucking hate dr phil | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | "fuck ricky lake... the oscars are on, there's gonna be some beating up" | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | after the tyson fury fight... the oscars | Apr 06 14:35 |
| matey | /me wonders whatever happened to ricki lake | Apr 06 14:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | we have "trish" here | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the british equiv | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | we also have springer-like shows | Apr 06 14:36 |
| matey | "you can always go on ricki lake" pretty fly (for a white guy) | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | with shoutings, and brawls | Apr 06 14:36 |
| matey | yeah like the one in shawn of the dead | Apr 06 14:36 |
| matey | "i still love im, trisha!" | Apr 06 14:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | graham norton was a thing when I still had a tv | Apr 06 14:36 |
| matey | i love graham norton | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | but hes not daytime | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | the nighttime talk shows are about celebs | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | the daytime ones are the REALLY stupid ones | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | i stopped watching | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | paxman and all | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | nighttime: comedy and celebs | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm not following | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | daytime: absolute shit | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | comeeddy and celebes => that's twitter | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and gulagtube | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | to give impression of size | Apr 06 14:37 |
| matey | daytime: facebook | Apr 06 14:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they gaslight all the people who actually MADE UP the platform | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | sure | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | thats what always happens to these things | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | a bunch of people build it up | Apr 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like a common modus operandi | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | then they get escorted out of libreplanet | Apr 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | they realise they cannot 'cash in' on ordinary people | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | i mean off the property | Apr 06 14:38 |
| matey | to make way for the new vips | Apr 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | but brainwashing them for "RICH PEOPLE"... THAT'S big money | Apr 06 14:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: did you see the keynotes this year? | Apr 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want to offend anyone, but W T H? | Apr 06 14:39 |
| matey | i mean | Apr 06 14:39 |
| matey | i saw the listings, i think | Apr 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | they havd FUCKING SNOWDEN years ago | Apr 06 14:39 |
| matey | yes | Apr 06 14:39 |
| schestowitz | https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-librevr-project/ | Apr 06 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-media.libreplanet.org | The LibreVR Project — GNU MediaGoblin | Apr 06 14:40 | |
| schestowitz | watch this | Apr 06 14:40 |
| schestowitz | no comment | Apr 06 14:40 |
| schestowitz | watch first 60 secs | Apr 06 14:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't say anything | Apr 06 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | don't want to offend | Apr 06 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | but you will get my point anyway | Apr 06 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I think we've run out of worthy talks to repost | Apr 06 14:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of the ones I saw are not meeting basic standards | Apr 06 14:42 |
| matey | "george ezra before he puts his makeup on" | Apr 06 14:42 |
| psydruid | "It turns out that Microbell is AMD's largest customer now" | Apr 06 14:43 |
| matey | its probably a very cool project | Apr 06 14:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | if he's like DaemonFC's grandma, he hoards some under the bed | Apr 06 14:43 |
| psydruid | New EPYC arrivals every month | Apr 06 14:43 |
| matey | i have trouble getting behind vr because of the capacity for spying on users is unparalleled | Apr 06 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | EPYC? Take a PYC!! | Apr 06 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | Post it online to show off | Apr 06 14:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | then tell roy it's no worse than what windows 'reviewers' do | Apr 06 14:44 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Rob/murdered.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/rob-murdered#comic ) | Apr 06 14:45 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Apr 06 14:45 | |
| techrights-news | "Arch Linux is a Linux distribution, that offers binary packages in software repositories (aka. repos). To achieve this, packages are built from source files using tooling that is developed by the distribution and various volunteers" https://sleepmap.de/2022/packaging-for-arch-linux/ | Apr 06 14:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-sleepmap.de | Packaging for Arch Linux | SleepMap | Apr 06 14:45 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: vr is hardly new | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a hype wave that keeps making comebacks every 10 years | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | like nintengogo with "ar" | Apr 06 14:46 |
| MinceR | what vr | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | new buzzword | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | metaverse | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | second life | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "ar" | Apr 06 14:46 |
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| schestowitz-TR | "hololens" | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | well, biden used that as excuse to bail out microsoft again | Apr 06 14:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | btw, same with watches | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and touchscreens | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | they go back to the 80s and 90s | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | touchscreens 1980s | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | and still nobody buys a home computer with it | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it tires the arm and has many other ergonomic and usability issues | Apr 06 14:47 |
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| schestowitz-TR | watches didn't even hold on | Apr 06 14:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | not even with shitty apple trying to make them seem like a "cool" status symbol | Apr 06 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Android Wear and all... going nowhere | Apr 06 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | like tabletgs | Apr 06 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are said to make a comeback again | Apr 06 14:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | oversized phones without network access except bt and wifi | Apr 06 14:48 |
| matey | 27 years ago https://yewtu.be/watch?v=17euo2DzBZI | Apr 06 14:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | (1995) Nintendo Virtual Boy Commercial - Invidious | Apr 06 14:49 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, nice | Apr 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | nintendo go | Apr 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | only nicer | Apr 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz | bill gates: wait, is Virtual Boy legal? | Apr 06 14:50 |
| schestowitz | will melinda catch me? | Apr 06 14:51 |
| matey | The Virtual Boy was panned by critics and was a commercial failure, even after repeated price drops. Its failure has been attributed to its high price, monochrome display, unimpressive stereoscopic effect, lack of true portability, and health concerns. | Apr 06 14:52 |
| matey | Stereoscopic technology in video game consoles reemerged in later years to more success, including Nintendo's 3DS handheld console. As of March 2021[update], it is Nintendo's lowest-selling standalone console and the only to have less than 1 million units sold https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Boy | Apr 06 14:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Virtual Boy - Wikipedia | Apr 06 14:53 | |
| matey | According to David Sheff's book Game Over, the increasingly reluctant Yokoi never intended for the increasingly downscaled Virtual Boy to be released in its final form. However, Nintendo pushed it to market so that it could focus development resources on its next console, the Nintendo 64. | Apr 06 14:54 |
| matey | By mid-1996, Blockbuster was selling its Virtual Boy units at $50 each. | Apr 06 14:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | how much by today's money? | Apr 06 14:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | 200? | Apr 06 14:55 |
| matey | i dont think that much | Apr 06 14:55 |
| matey | To achieve a color display, Nintendo would have used a combination of red, green, and blue LEDs. At the time, blue LEDs were still considerably expensive and would in turn raise the price of the final product. | Apr 06 14:55 |
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| schestowitz-TR | vr is everywhere now | Apr 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | kids on their hoverboard | Apr 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | with their sneakers that have lights inside them | Apr 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | wearing a "smart" watch | Apr 06 15:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | and "smart" gloves | Apr 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | just like in the movies | Apr 06 15:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I suppose sci-fi futurists did not want to speculate wrong | Apr 06 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | and in a non-PC way | Apr 06 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | for movie scripts | Apr 06 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like kids going about with "I want to have sex" apps | Apr 06 15:05 |
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| matey | honestly despite that presentation | Apr 06 15:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | scrolling down "Walls" to press "like" | Apr 06 15:05 |
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| matey | and despite the fact that theyre german, which seems to be overriding any sense of decency i have | Apr 06 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | wanting to buy another phone to add 2 more CPU cores to open a "site" where they enter a postcode | Apr 06 15:06 |
| matey | they do some really impressive things towards free software | Apr 06 15:06 |
| matey | and they have an fsfe-based blog. you can imagine what i think about this. | Apr 06 15:06 |
| matey | with that said, its a good blog. | Apr 06 15:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | plural or singular? | Apr 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | how many are involved? | Apr 06 15:07 |
| matey | they is their preferred pronoun | Apr 06 15:07 |
| matey | https://git.libre-soc.org/ | Apr 06 15:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | I knopw | Apr 06 15:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that leads to confusion | Apr 06 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need not to allow abuse of language | Apr 06 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | it causes confusion where I work | Apr 06 15:08 |
| matey | i dont care, lots of words lead to confusion | Apr 06 15:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | and leads to communication problems | Apr 06 15:08 |
| matey | english is a shitty language | Apr 06 15:08 |
| matey | imo singular they solves more problems than it causes | Apr 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's not the point | Apr 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's how English works | Apr 06 15:09 |
| matey | i think it is | Apr 06 15:09 |
| matey | no | Apr 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it's more expressive | Apr 06 15:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | should we also replace the word "I" with "we"? | Apr 06 15:09 |
| matey | thats not "how english works" | Apr 06 15:09 |
| matey | english has had singular they for a very long time | Apr 06 15:09 |
| matey | i was using it years before it became a trans issue | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | for convenience | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | depends on the context | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | yes! | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | like inside a sentence | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | ambiguous words always depend on context | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | but now it's abused | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | like apple | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | and it leads to sever communication issuesa | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | is it a computer? is it a fruit? is it a person named apple? | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | even results in bad outcomes and work | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | it depends on the usage | Apr 06 15:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | because issues are being miscommunicated | Apr 06 15:10 |
| matey | my guess is youre exaggerating | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | many languages have gendered words | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | and those are useful | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | because they save time working around mbiguity | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "go with her" | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "he solved the problem" | Apr 06 15:11 |
| matey | her is also ambiguous | Apr 06 15:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | "they are complaining about downtime" | Apr 06 15:11 |
| matey | pronouns by nature are ambiguous | Apr 06 15:12 |
| matey | unless theyre personal | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | they limit the scope | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | scope-limiting is powerful | Apr 06 15:12 |
| matey | sure | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | in some languages there are plural female | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | or plural male | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | those two can help | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | even in poetry | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | watering down the language | Apr 06 15:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | makes the languages more primitive | Apr 06 15:13 |
| matey | but i mean "she" only narrows a large crowd down to about 52% of the crowd without other context | Apr 06 15:13 |
| matey | its ambiguous too | Apr 06 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's better than nothing | Apr 06 15:13 |
| matey | unless its incorrect | Apr 06 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | this abuse of language was never about simplifying lamngauge | Apr 06 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's about political goals | Apr 06 15:13 |
| matey | if youre saying someone should change their identity to conform to english, thats a bit weird | Apr 06 15:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | and whe politics damage linguistics we can reject the change | Apr 06 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | like the word "liberal" | Apr 06 15:14 |
| matey | it's about political goals <- you know, ive watched feminism and lgbtq get hijacked for bullshit purposes for years | Apr 06 15:14 |
| matey | and i cant say im concerned about singular they | Apr 06 15:14 |
| matey | because its a non-problem | Apr 06 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is | Apr 06 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | at workplaces | Apr 06 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | it leads to excommunications | Apr 06 15:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then leads to wrong actions | Apr 06 15:15 |
| matey | excommunications <- who was excommunicated at work | Apr 06 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | typo | Apr 06 15:15 |
| matey | i thought maybe yes | Apr 06 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | miscommunications | Apr 06 15:15 |
| matey | right | Apr 06 15:15 |
| matey | english is like c | Apr 06 15:15 |
| matey | if you dont use it properly bad shit can happen | Apr 06 15:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | c is english | Apr 06 15:16 |
| matey | lets eat grandpa! | Apr 06 15:16 |
| matey | lets eat, grandpa! | Apr 06 15:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | punctuation matters | Apr 06 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | should we remove it? | Apr 06 15:17 |
| matey | in this instance quite a lot | Apr 06 15:17 |
| matey | some punctuation absolutely matters more than others | Apr 06 15:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | let's also remove all the doubly-ungood words | Apr 06 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | just in case | Apr 06 15:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | in case people might use the language to "incite" | Apr 06 15:18 |
| matey | im actually arguing in favour of adding a word already in use, not removing words | Apr 06 15:18 |
| matey | "adding" | Apr 06 15:18 |
| matey | The Oxford English Dictionary traces singular they back to 1375, where it appears in the medieval romance William and the Werewolf. Except for the old-style language of that poem, its use of singular they to refer to an unnamed person seems very modern. | Apr 06 15:19 |
| matey | Even people who object to singular they as a grammatical error use it themselves when they’re not looking, a sure sign that anyone who objects to singular they is, if not a fool or an idiot, at least hopelessly out of date. https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-history-of-singular-they/ | Apr 06 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-public.oed.com | A brief history of singular ‘they’ | Oxford English Dictionary | Apr 06 15:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe for a reason | Apr 06 15:20 |
| matey | not my words... | Apr 06 15:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it was adopted to make the language more expressive, less ambiguous | Apr 06 15:20 |
| matey | Professor of English and linguistics at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | Apr 06 15:20 |
| matey | granted it would have even more "oompf" if he were british | Apr 06 15:20 |
| matey | but it IS the oed blog | Apr 06 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | published 2018 | Apr 06 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | you lose your job at universities now if you take another stance | Apr 06 15:21 |
| matey | Former Chief Editor of the OED Robert Burchfield, in The New Fowler’s Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1996), dismisses objections to singular they as unsupported by the historical record. | Apr 06 15:21 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> you lose your job at universities now if you take another stance <- think thats extreme of course | Apr 06 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is extreme | Apr 06 15:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course | Apr 06 15:21 |
| matey | of course it is | Apr 06 15:21 |
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| matey | but nonetheless | Apr 06 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck being a uni professor and even SUGGESTING that Russia MIGHT have something to be unhappy about in Ukraine/NATO | Apr 06 15:22 |
| matey | in The New Fowler’s Dictionary of Modern English Usage (1996), dismisses objections to singular they as unsupported by the historical record. <- plural-only-they is NOT "how english works" | Apr 06 15:22 |
| matey | its how some people would prefer it work. | Apr 06 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | You cannot even THINK about saying something remotely in that direction | Apr 06 15:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | and with social control media society became more like that | Apr 06 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | deploatform/cancel culture | Apr 06 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | witch-burning, digital version | Apr 06 15:23 |
| matey | you know i rebel against a lot of formalism, particularly in english | Apr 06 15:23 |
| chunky | tech rights are so important!!!!!!!! | Apr 06 15:23 |
| matey | and i reject the code of conduct at lieplanet as well | Apr 06 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: so watch out | Apr 06 15:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | you might be next | Apr 06 15:23 |
| matey | LOL | Apr 06 15:23 |
| matey | im used to being next | Apr 06 15:23 |
| matey | and its especially funny coming from you | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | now you can get banned from irc for the f work alone | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | *word | Apr 06 15:24 |
| matey | well i dont typically bother with irc | Apr 06 15:24 |
| matey | he says in irc | Apr 06 15:24 |
| matey | but its true | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | can you imagine carlin doing a skit in 2022? | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not 15 years ago, which is iirc when he died? | Apr 06 15:24 |
| matey | yes, via satellite from a remote location | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | not only would they not air it | Apr 06 15:24 |
| matey | possibly from a cave in afghanistan | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | "concern groups" would corner the old man | Apr 06 15:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | "FUCKING! IRISH! MAN! WHITE! DISGUSTING! OFFENSIVE! NAZI! FASCIST!" | Apr 06 15:25 |
| matey | i agree with you on the nature of the problem | Apr 06 15:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "TRUMP APOLOGIST" | Apr 06 15:26 |
| matey | not the role that singular they plays within in | Apr 06 15:26 |
| matey | within it | Apr 06 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but, listen, he didn't even MENTION TRUMP!" | Apr 06 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry | Apr 06 15:26 |
| schestowitz-TR | "but, listen, THEY didn't even MENTION TRUMP!" | Apr 06 15:26 |
| matey | the ultra-left problem is a real problem | Apr 06 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not even left | Apr 06 15:27 |
| matey | has been for 100 years | Apr 06 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | imo | Apr 06 15:27 |
| matey | oh it really is | Apr 06 15:27 |
| matey | maybe not iyo | Apr 06 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | left means something like antiwar | Apr 06 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | of coexistence | Apr 06 15:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | that barely exists in that sphere | Apr 06 15:27 |
| matey | ultra-left has an interesting meaning wrt all this | Apr 06 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | those whom you call ultra-left does not vote Green | Apr 06 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | or Communist | Apr 06 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they vote Wall Street | Apr 06 15:28 |
| matey | yes | Apr 06 15:28 |
| matey | thats the problem | Apr 06 15:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok | Apr 06 15:28 |
| matey | heres how that happens | Apr 06 15:28 |
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| matey | the left support workers-- always. they support the working class | Apr 06 15:28 |
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| matey | calling yourself left and having disdain for the working classes is simply a joke. | Apr 06 15:29 |
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| matey | but the ultra-left | Apr 06 15:29 |
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| matey | they get these ideas, these priorities | Apr 06 15:29 |
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| matey | which suddenly overtake everything else! | Apr 06 15:29 |
| matey | now the workers dont matter, society doesnt matter | Apr 06 15:29 |
| matey | ONLY THIS THING | Apr 06 15:29 |
| matey | call it extremism if you like | Apr 06 15:29 |
| matey | they start out with otherwise reasonable ideas-- ideas for progress | Apr 06 15:30 |
| matey | but they abandon the needs of the working classes | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | but wait | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | Apr 06 15:30 |
| matey | because of this they cant find any allies in the left | Apr 06 15:30 |
| matey | yes | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it never starts with needs of working class | Apr 06 15:30 |
| matey | because of this they cant find any allies in the left | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the issue | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's not in their lexicon | Apr 06 15:30 |
| matey | so where do they turn? any port in a storm | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | we need to do more unionisation | Apr 06 15:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | and less of this fruitless pronoun-policing | Apr 06 15:31 |
| matey | facebook, microsoft, ibm, dept of defense | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | or more debate about wall street | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | less about abortion | Apr 06 15:31 |
| matey | they end up siding with the capitalists | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | they focus on divisive nonsense, promoted intentionally by the ruling class | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | because it is so divisive | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | that we eat our own | Apr 06 15:31 |
| matey | they focus on divisive nonsense, promoted intentionally by the ruling class <- this is what ends up happening | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | while they eat all the pies | Apr 06 15:31 |
| DaemonFC | Mr. GOOLAG Loves I.C.E. | Apr 06 15:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | when I say they I mean plural for the oligarchs | Apr 06 15:31 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> that we eat our own <- thats what happens when you let the ultra-left take over | Apr 06 15:31 |
| matey | whats so funny about this ultra-left is | Apr 06 15:32 |
| matey | its not a term the right came up with, but the left. | Apr 06 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it is not ultra-left | Apr 06 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | calling it that is misleading | Apr 06 15:32 |
| matey | its not a new term, but a 100 year old term | Apr 06 15:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | and serves to demonise the left | Apr 06 15:33 |
| matey | nope! | Apr 06 15:33 |
| matey | it doesnt. | Apr 06 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | the bigots (nationalists) use the term | Apr 06 15:33 |
| matey | nope, youre getting history wrong, but go ahead. | Apr 06 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, never mind | Apr 06 15:33 |
| matey | it doesnt demonise the left at all | Apr 06 15:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | name for me an org that is ultraleft | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | is sfc ultra-left? | Apr 06 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | What Alan Pope is suggesting you do with Snap would likely break Ubuntu itself at some point. | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | CAIR? | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ultra-left? | Apr 06 15:34 |
| matey | is sfc ultra-left? <- kuhn is | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | apologists of radical islamists? | Apr 06 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | It removes the entire Snap system, and Ubuntu is moving away from Debian packages. | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | SPLC | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | ultra-left? | Apr 06 15:34 |
| matey | i dont know wtf splc is, honestly | Apr 06 15:34 |
| matey | i know what it stands for | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: he left canonical | Apr 06 15:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | went to some proprietary company | Apr 06 15:34 |
| DaemonFC | Of course if you intend to stay on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS for 10 years, you're not going to worry about it on that system, probably. | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe relaised he hated it there | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | stopped blogging | Apr 06 15:35 |
| matey | and Ubuntu is moving away from Debian packages. <- for a few years running yes | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | then started some (iirc) shithub prokect | Apr 06 15:35 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> is sfc ultra-left? <- most of the things you complain about are examples of ultra-left | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | splc used to be ok | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that changed | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | it got hijacked | Apr 06 15:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | much like eff | Apr 06 15:35 |
| matey | splc used to be ok <- what decade? | Apr 06 15:35 |
| matey | eff actually did some good | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | lf was always the shit, but getting worse each year | Apr 06 15:36 |
| matey | back in the day | Apr 06 15:36 |
| matey | i dont know if splc ever did | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | mozilla alsol | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | is mozilla "ultra-left"? | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the management? | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | the gulag marionette? | Apr 06 15:36 |
| matey | is mozilla "ultra-left"? <- some of their politics are | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulag is not left at all | Apr 06 15:36 |
| matey | the gulag marionette? <- i dont have a lot to say about him at this time | Apr 06 15:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | baker | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | theres nothing bad i could say that isnt said constantly, that i havent already said myself | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | who clobbers mozilla | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | baker is not he | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | baker is a terrible human being. | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | or him | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | i was not referring to baker when i said he | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | i thought you meant anotehr gulag person | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | baker ruined firefox | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and by extension the web | Apr 06 15:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | many sites no longer test with firefox | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | baker is (afaik) only connected to gulag via bribes | Apr 06 15:37 |
| matey | was she priorly employed there or something? | Apr 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | fturns out posting junk and removing engineers kind of drives user away | Apr 06 15:38 |
| matey | many sites no longer test with firefox <- its a wonder when the browser even opens, let alone renders a website | Apr 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | she helps gmail take over email | Apr 06 15:38 |
| matey | nonetheless i thought you were referring to someone else | Apr 06 15:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is ultra-left then? bkuhn? | Apr 06 15:39 |
| matey | you know ive answered SEVERAL instances of this question, just now, including that one | Apr 06 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | ask bkuhn what he thinks of israel shelling gaza | Apr 06 15:39 |
| matey | bkuhn is absolutely ultra-left | Apr 06 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | to see how "let" he is | Apr 06 15:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | *lefgt | Apr 06 15:39 |
| matey | youre still not clear on what ultra-left means, although ive explained it | Apr 06 15:40 |
| matey | thats why youre struggling with this | Apr 06 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's just a giant misnomer | Apr 06 15:40 |
| matey | you think im just slapping words together out of convenience | Apr 06 15:40 |
| matey | or opportunism | Apr 06 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | another one the bigots habitually use not is "alt-left" | Apr 06 15:40 |
| matey | maybe it's just a giant misnomer <- maybe. i happen to think it explains the past 100 years (especially the present) very neatly, once its understood what it actually means | Apr 06 15:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | apparently coined by Clinton's team | Apr 06 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then adopted by Trump and others | Apr 06 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | to mean people who oppose fascists | Apr 06 15:41 |
| matey | well as i said, im not quoting anyone from the past 40 years, its older than that | Apr 06 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | ok, I need to read up on it | Apr 06 15:41 |
| matey | like singular they goes back to what was it-- 375? 1375? a ways | Apr 06 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it's some oddball satirical word | Apr 06 15:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | like "ultraorthodox" | Apr 06 15:41 |
| matey | ok, I need to read up on it <- ill find you a link | Apr 06 15:41 |
| matey | ultraorthodox <- isnt a satirical word at all | Apr 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | which typically boils down to fanatic nutcases | Apr 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | whereas the term orthodox on its own does not imply that | Apr 06 15:42 |
| matey | it describes anything to the right of orthodox judaism | Apr 06 15:42 |
| matey | where for example, women are not allowed to sing | Apr 06 15:42 |
| matey | because of some line that implies female singing is a problem | Apr 06 15:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | let me check wikipedia on "ultra left" | Apr 06 15:43 |
| matey | wikipedia wont help you | Apr 06 15:43 |
| matey | actually let me check if it might | Apr 06 15:43 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism | Apr 06 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ultra-leftism - Wikipedia | Apr 06 15:43 | |
| schestowitz | it's marxist | Apr 06 15:43 |
| schestowitz | bkuhn is an avid capitalist shill | Apr 06 15:43 |
| schestowitz | nowhere like marxist | Apr 06 15:43 |
| matey | you know what | Apr 06 15:44 |
| matey | wikipedia might actually help here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism | Apr 06 15:44 |
| schestowitz | ah | Apr 06 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, so they have colliding defs | Apr 06 15:44 |
| matey | <schestowitz> bkuhn is an avid capitalist shill <- he might be, but it wouldnt negate anything im saying | Apr 06 15:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | seems like abused term, like "liberal" | Apr 06 15:44 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-leftism#Pejorative_usage | Apr 06 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Ultra-leftism - Wikipedia | Apr 06 15:44 | |
| schestowitz | "Used pejoratively, ultra-left is used to label positions that are adopted without taking notice of the current situation or of the consequences which would result from following a proposed course. The term is used to criticize leftist positions that, for example, are seen as overstating the tempo of events, propose initiatives that overestimate the current level of militancy, or which employ appeals to violence in their activism" | Apr 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | So maybe that's what it nowadays means | Apr 06 15:45 |
| schestowitz | so the original term lost its substance | Apr 06 15:45 |
| matey | so heres something the article mentions: | Apr 06 15:45 |
| matey | "The mainstream Marxist critique of such a position began with Vladimir Lenin's "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder," | Apr 06 15:45 |
| matey | thats actually the work i was going to link you to. | Apr 06 15:45 |
| matey | and its far from "recent" | Apr 06 15:45 |
| matey | and you notice that it comes from the "right-wing bigot" vladimir lenin | Apr 06 15:46 |
| matey | who of course is neither right wing nor a bigot | Apr 06 15:46 |
| matey | but as you can see, the term "ultra-left" as a pejoritive | Apr 06 15:47 |
| matey | is actually coined by the left itself. | Apr 06 15:47 |
| matey | not the right. | Apr 06 15:47 |
| matey | and its not recent either. | Apr 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but the right latches onto it | Apr 06 15:47 |
| matey | and yet it is incredibly applicable to current events | Apr 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | "alt-left" was not made up by Trump | Apr 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | but team HRC | Apr 06 15:47 |
| matey | but the right latches onto it <- the right will latch onto anything that gives them 15 minutes of fame | Apr 06 15:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, bbiab | Apr 06 15:48 |
| matey | but team HRC <- is incredibly capitalist | Apr 06 15:48 |
| matey | "The term has been popularized in the United States by the Socialist Workers Party at the time of the Vietnam war, using the term to describe opponents in the anti-war movement including Gerry Healy." | Apr 06 15:49 |
| matey | "The term has been popularized in the United States by the Socialist Workers Party" <- also not very right wing | Apr 06 15:49 |
| matey | and not TERRIBLY recent (but certainly moreso, as there are veterans of that war living today) | Apr 06 15:49 |
| matey | and here wikipedia echoes what i was saying before you went in search of more info: | Apr 06 15:50 |
| matey | "Ultra-leftism is often associated with leftist sectarianism, in which a socialist organization might attempt to put its own short-term interests before the long-term interests of the working class and its allies." | Apr 06 15:50 |
| matey | #techrights : 04/06/22 14:30 <matey> they start out with otherwise reasonable ideas-- ideas for progress | Apr 06 15:51 |
| matey | but they abandon the needs of the working classes | Apr 06 15:51 |
| matey | #techrights : 04/06/22 14:30 <matey> but they abandon the needs of the working classes | Apr 06 15:51 |
| matey | #techrights : 04/06/22 14:29 <matey> they get these ideas, these priorities | Apr 06 15:51 |
| matey | which suddenly overtake everything else! | Apr 06 15:51 |
| matey | this is highly relevant not only for explaining the tragedy of contemporary politics... | Apr 06 15:52 |
| matey | but it also coherently explains what the fuck has happened to the free software movement in recent yaers | Apr 06 15:52 |
| matey | in not-entirely-outdated terms that we have known about for nearly a century, because similar problems existed that far back. | Apr 06 15:53 |
| matey | this is HIGHLY relevant to free software | Apr 06 15:53 |
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| matey | it gives us an idea of whats happened, where its headed, and even what can be done about it | Apr 06 15:53 |
| matey | but it also warns against putting the ultra-left in charge (which they are. of lieplanet.) | Apr 06 15:54 |
| matey | and this is not an anti-left position | Apr 06 15:54 |
| matey | the ultra-left ultimately hijack, oppose and thwart the left. | Apr 06 15:54 |
| matey | weve seen it happen | Apr 06 15:55 |
| matey | it even explains how otherwise well-meaning people can get sucked into the idea that this nonsense is actually progress. | Apr 06 15:55 |
| matey | but then turn against progress and sell it off to github, microsoft, google etc | Apr 06 15:56 |
| matey | not to mention capitalists in general (on a larger scale than the free sw movement) | Apr 06 15:56 |
| matey | on the one side you have people like coraline ada ehmke who are destroying freedom with her bullshit | Apr 06 15:57 |
| matey | but then you have people like leah who wont throw away the cause of freedom for another cause, but instead work to make progress with both. | Apr 06 15:58 |
| matey | bluntly, we need more people like leah and we need to avoid bullshit like coralines | Apr 06 15:58 |
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| schestowitz-TR | ok, i'm back. done recording. | Apr 06 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo breaking laws again. | Apr 06 16:23 |
| schestowitz-TR | am i living in china????? | Apr 06 16:23 |
| matey | nice of them to follow a few. | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | even that is rare | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am upset that the media isn't covering it | Apr 06 16:24 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> am i living in china????? <- i dont know, the world seems to import a lot from there | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is COMPLECITY | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | like in CHINA | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | *COMPLICIT | Apr 06 16:24 |
| matey | mmhmm | Apr 06 16:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | welcome to newsroom | Apr 06 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | rule number 1 in this fight club | Apr 06 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | We ignore THIS scandal ->>> | Apr 06 16:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's ABOVE criticism | Apr 06 16:25 |
| matey | you know i have a mostly irrational hatred of germans, which is funny because its not even my least-favourite country | Apr 06 16:25 |
| matey | my least favourite country is china, and i like chinese people just fine. | Apr 06 16:25 |
| matey | i only dislike the country. but with germans, its different. | Apr 06 16:25 |
| matey | theyre basically the only group i can think of that i have a (mostly) irrational hatred towards. im working on it. | Apr 06 16:26 |
| schestowitz | spamnil openwashing icbm https://www.tfir.io/ambitus-helps-developers-create-open-source-solutions-on-ibm-z/ | Apr 06 16:26 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tfir.io | Ambitus Helps Developers Create Open Source Solutions On IBM Z - TFiR: Interviews, News & Analysis by Swapnil Bhartiya | Apr 06 16:26 | |
| matey | sometimes you need a break from shilling for microsoft and apple | Apr 06 16:27 |
| matey | and ibm is perfect for that | Apr 06 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | edpo reinforces your stigma | Apr 06 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | many who work there are not german | Apr 06 16:27 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they thought they moved to a more civilised eu state | Apr 06 16:27 |
| matey | well i dont really factor the epo in | Apr 06 16:27 |
| matey | i mean im not a fan | Apr 06 16:27 |
| matey | but theyre not a factor | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are when it comes to software | Apr 06 16:28 |
| matey | of course | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | they impact patent policy wordwide | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a cabal | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | through wipo | Apr 06 16:28 |
| matey | not even doubted | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | wipo and two as two of several unbrellas | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *wtoi | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | *wto | Apr 06 16:28 |
| schestowitz-TR | brb | Apr 06 16:29 |
| MinceR | https://files.explosm.net/comics/Matt/Help.png ( https://explosm.net/comics/matt-help#comic ) | Apr 06 16:33 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyanide & Happiness (Explosm.net) | Apr 06 16:33 | |
| bnchs__ | MinceR: funny | Apr 06 16:34 |
| psydruid | I hope that WIPO and EPO people will mysteriously disappear when they go to Eastern European and Asian countries | Apr 06 16:40 |
| matey | id actually start with wipo | Apr 06 16:41 |
| matey | they need it more urgently | Apr 06 16:41 |
| psydruid | "sorry, he got lost somewhere" | Apr 06 16:41 |
| matey | so, fingers crossed | Apr 06 16:41 |
| matey | but if epo was right behind, the more the merrier | Apr 06 16:41 |
| matey | and then the eu. | Apr 06 16:41 |
| matey | psydruid, i may have asked you this before, but have you seen this yet? https://libre-soc.org/ | Apr 06 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libre-soc.org | libre-soc | Apr 06 16:42 | |
| psydruid | all of then must be destroyed one by one | Apr 06 16:42 |
| matey | it looks interesting, but i never trust my first impression if its positive :) | Apr 06 16:42 |
| psydruid | matey, I have, I brought it up here a year or two ago | Apr 06 16:43 |
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| matey | whats the verdict? | Apr 06 16:43 |
| psydruid | wait and see | Apr 06 16:43 |
| matey | that is fair | Apr 06 16:43 |
| bnchs__ | psydruid, nah he didn't get lost | Apr 06 16:43 |
| bnchs__ | he just took a little.. vacation | Apr 06 16:44 |
| matey | there was a presentation of some vr thing at lieplanet | Apr 06 16:44 |
| bnchs__ | a forever vacation | Apr 06 16:44 |
| matey | i would have rather seen one on libre-soc, but maybe they did one on that already | Apr 06 16:44 |
| psydruid | I don't know if the people working on it can be trusted to deliver on their promise, considering who they are | Apr 06 16:44 |
| psydruid | but I give them the benefit of the doubt | Apr 06 16:45 |
| matey | <psydruid> I don't know if the people working on it can be trusted to deliver on their promise, considering who they are <- i mean | Apr 06 16:45 |
| matey | it depends on how much fsfe is entrenched with that imo | Apr 06 16:45 |
| matey | i dont understand platens connection with fsfe, just a member? staff? | Apr 06 16:45 |
| matey | if staff, then fuck the whole thing | Apr 06 16:46 |
| matey | if member... thats too bad. | Apr 06 16:46 |
| matey | if fsfe has nothing to do with libre-soc really, thats a good sign. | Apr 06 16:46 |
| matey | german politics are incredibly fucked no matter wha | Apr 06 16:46 |
| psydruid | I don't know who any of these people are and I don't know any of these organizations | Apr 06 16:46 |
| matey | oh fsfe is a nightmare | Apr 06 16:47 |
| psydruid | and I would like to keep it that way | Apr 06 16:47 |
| matey | but reading platens blog is good stuff | Apr 06 16:47 |
| matey | <psydruid> and I would like to keep it that way <- yeah i wont tell you anything about fsfe then | Apr 06 16:47 |
| psydruid | that's why I don't comment on them in general | Apr 06 16:47 |
| matey | reasonable | Apr 06 16:47 |
| psydruid | they just distract from the issues we should be tackling | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | i dont really disagree | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | but im not sure theyre entirely avoidable either | Apr 06 16:48 |
| psydruid | but that's my take on it | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | like sometimes theres a point to discussing them | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | however-- | Apr 06 16:48 |
| psydruid | they are not relevant to what I am generally doing | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | giving them TOO MUCH attention leads to exactly the problem you describe | Apr 06 16:48 |
| matey | they are not relevant to what I am generally doing <- yeah, i like that youre fiercely independent | Apr 06 16:49 |
| psydruid | if anything I would like to see them all destroyed | Apr 06 16:49 |
| matey | where do you draw the line though | Apr 06 16:49 |
| matey | i mean thats what im always trying to figure out-- where should the line be drawn | Apr 06 16:49 |
| matey | like i could easily knock all the kde stuff off my fsd fork | Apr 06 16:50 |
| matey | but for now its more useful to put it at the bottom | Apr 06 16:50 |
| matey | freedom is really (imo) about where we draw the line. | Apr 06 16:50 |
| matey | too many compromises and we are ruined | Apr 06 16:51 |
| matey | too few, and we are idle | Apr 06 16:51 |
| matey | though the usual threat is too many compromises | Apr 06 16:51 |
| psydruid | I draw the line in that I still use that stuff as needed | Apr 06 16:51 |
| matey | right | Apr 06 16:51 |
| matey | that makes sense | Apr 06 16:51 |
| psydruid | but what I work on myself is independent from that | Apr 06 16:52 |
| techrights-news | As the time for bording aproached, the gate agent announced that, "we do not have a captain or first officer for this flight." gemini://1436.ninja/gemlog/20220405.gmi | Apr 06 16:52 |
| matey | of course | Apr 06 16:52 |
| psydruid | independent from anything, really | Apr 06 16:52 |
| matey | i dont think theyre staff | Apr 06 16:53 |
| matey | "My name is Tobias Platen and I'm fellow 2069. Currently I'm studying Computer Science at THM-Giessen." | Apr 06 16:53 |
| matey | Supporters/tobias_platen | Apr 06 16:53 |
| matey | theyre a supporter, thats why they get to host a blog there | Apr 06 16:53 |
| psydruid | people want to be on winning teams | Apr 06 16:54 |
| matey | <psydruid> people want to be on winning teams <- fuck, yes | Apr 06 16:55 |
| matey | its an awful shortcut | Apr 06 16:55 |
| MinceR | people are willing to sacrifice themselves to be on winning teams | Apr 06 16:55 |
| MinceR | i hate humans so much | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | <MinceR> people are willing to sacrifice themselves to be on winning teams <- yes | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | <MinceR> i hate humans so much <- lol | Apr 06 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | spamnil | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | theres nothing genetically wrong with us. | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | you hate society. | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | its not a species issue | Apr 06 16:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: y u so angry !!! | Apr 06 16:56 |
| matey | because people are dicks (which is true) | Apr 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | an over-generalisation | Apr 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | but depends where you live | Apr 06 16:57 |
| matey | but still true | Apr 06 16:57 |
| matey | not much :) | Apr 06 16:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'd say Manchester has fewer dicks than London | Apr 06 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't mean literal dicks | Apr 06 16:58 |
| matey | id say they make up for it | Apr 06 16:58 |
| matey | no, no one meant literal dicks | Apr 06 16:58 |
| matey | that would be funnier | Apr 06 16:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | dick brandon | Apr 06 16:58 |
| MinceR | this society is what this species is capable of | Apr 06 16:58 |
| matey | <MinceR> this society is what this species is capable of <- i think the species is capable of better | Apr 06 16:58 |
| matey | this society is a giant turd though | Apr 06 16:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▂▁▂▃▄▆▃▅▇▅▃▄▂▃▅▂▃▁▄▅▄▇▂▂▇▁▁▁▄▄▄▆▄▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 24.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁█▁▁▁▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▁▁▁█▂▁▁▂▃█▂██▁▁▂▂▃▁▂▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 71.45▕ swarm size (avg): 255.58 ⟲ | Apr 06 16:59 |
| matey | its a sort of boss-level turd-monster | Apr 06 16:59 |
| DaemonFC | Heh, I dropped Fallout 4 directly into Wine 7.5 in Fedora 36 and it works great. | Apr 06 17:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s All Connected (and Wired) | Techrights | Apr 06 17:15 | |
| psydruid | this society can be destroyed so we can have peace in anarchy | Apr 06 17:15 |
| techrights-news | Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK: "Today's update is delayed. The current estimate for release is 5:30pm. Further updates will be provided here." Need more time to 'cook' the numbers a bit to downplay the issue? | Apr 06 17:17 |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423 | Apr 06 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines | Apr 06 17:17 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163424 | Apr 06 17:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 17:17 | |
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| techrights-news | 17:31PM. "Today's update is delayed. The current estimate for release is 5:30pm. Further updates will be provided here." I've even bypassed cache. They're making false promises. | Apr 06 17:31 |
| techrights-news | "The current estimate for release is 5:30pm" -NHS coronavirus portal. The current estimate for release is 5 minutes ago (future tense). | Apr 06 17:34 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/05/never-tell-me-the-odds-04-05-22/ | Apr 06 17:50 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | The Odds? Never Tell Me The Odds (19 Pics) | Apr 06 17:50 | |
| techrights-news | Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has “DATA ISSUE” and “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ | Apr 06 17:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has “DATA ISSUE” and “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ | Apr 06 17:56 | |
| schestowitz-TR | China did the same, adding about 3000 in one day | Apr 06 17:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | after faking relative calm for months | Apr 06 17:56 |
| techrights-news | Will excess mortality report also need to be amended in light of those 'missing' 2700+ dead Brits? https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/excess-mortality-in-england-weekly-reports “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ | Apr 06 18:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Excess mortality in England: weekly reports - GOV.UK | Apr 06 18:01 | |
| psydruid | https://docs.maxxinteractive.com/ | Apr 06 18:01 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.maxxinteractive.com | MaXX Interactive Desktop | Apr 06 18:01 | |
| psydruid | I don't what exactly the licensing for this amounts to, but it might put current bloated DEs to shame | Apr 06 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug | Apr 06 18:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver - Phoronix | Apr 06 18:03 | |
| psydruid | I already dropped back to Mate on all of my systems, because all the other DEs are breaking left and right | Apr 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | Micro Larabel again. | Apr 06 18:03 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, OMG! ~100 lines of code. Thank God for Microsoft! | Apr 06 18:04 |
| techrights-news | These charts are misleading as 5-year averages take into account the peaks from TWO years of COVID-19 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1065176/Weekly_report_mortality__W13.pdf | Apr 06 18:04 |
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| psydruid | Micro Hotplug That Buttplug! | Apr 06 18:04 |
| psydruid | he really likes it | Apr 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: he is compromised | Apr 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's AMD | Apr 06 18:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | so all the Microsoft-AMD lovefests get covered by that siter | Apr 06 18:05 |
| DaemonFC | About Fedora criticizing Nvidia. Their project leader didn't say anything worse than I did. | Apr 06 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | 'project leader' | Apr 06 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | ICBM employee | Apr 06 18:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | 100% of the time | Apr 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | I just said Nvidia's driver is full of bizarre bugs and does not conform to the way the rest of the system works, and people shouldn't buy their hardware if that's the only driver that works with it. | Apr 06 18:07 |
| psydruid | gang leader | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | soon he'll turn 50 | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | and official become "dinobaby" | Apr 06 18:07 |
| DaemonFC | They threatened me for saying that/ | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | on the "chopping block" | Apr 06 18:07 |
| psydruid | Fedora threatened you? | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they did | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | he showed me logs | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | they also ousted some longtimers | Apr 06 18:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | only ICBM can criticise things | Apr 06 18:08 |
| psydruid | I would threaten Fedora with extinction, if I cared | Apr 06 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | volunteers are slaves | Apr 06 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | With being banned from the rooms and having my COPR taken down. | Apr 06 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | just smile and keep on working | Apr 06 18:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | criticism is a privilege | Apr 06 18:08 |
| psydruid | but I don't | Apr 06 18:08 |
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| psydruid | just smile and pull the trigger | Apr 06 18:08 |
| DaemonFC | I only had a COPR so I could start building Firefox with GCC if I needed to. | Apr 06 18:08 |
| psydruid | what is COPR? | Apr 06 18:08 |
| psydruid | sounds like a disease | Apr 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | I do not trust Clang/LLVM to produce good code. In many cases, they have typically "implemented" GCC code hardening features by no-op. | Apr 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | That is, it says it supports that thing and then does nothing. | Apr 06 18:09 |
| DaemonFC | It's strictly there so the build doesn't fail. Maintains "compatibility" with GCC. | Apr 06 18:09 |
| psydruid | that's sneaky | Apr 06 18:10 |
| psydruid | I guess they really want to replace GCC with nops | Apr 06 18:10 |
| DaemonFC | Very sneaky. And the fact that Ubuntu has all of these compliance modes with government "security" standards and then builds things like Firefox using Clang/LLVM, says that the government security standards are worthless. | Apr 06 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | The government itself speaks of cyberattacks targeting the government. | Apr 06 18:11 |
| psydruid | in POWER assembly you have to insert nops so the assembler has some room to rearrange things | Apr 06 18:11 |
| DaemonFC | Then there's still agencies at the state level in Illinois on Windows XP. | Apr 06 18:11 |
| psydruid | that's a national security risk | Apr 06 18:13 |
| psydruid | but not really, because there is no security | Apr 06 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | When I went into one of their offices, they had Dell Pentium 4 systems running XP. Dozens of them in one room. | Apr 06 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | In 2017. | Apr 06 18:13 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe that's changed now, I don't know. XP was so old then that I'm surprised they could do anything with it. | Apr 06 18:14 |
| DaemonFC | There's no reason why Windows XP couldn't still be around today, but Microsoft's hardware partners always cut off the drivers, and then there's product activation for anyone who won't crack it, so no legitimate channels. | Apr 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | I think I mentioned hacking up some Windows XP drivers to get Windows 98 running. | Apr 06 18:15 |
| DaemonFC | Intel put a check in the installer to fail on Windows 98, but you could extract the drivers themselves from it and right click the INFs and tell Windows to install them, then it recognized 2004/2005 era hardware. | Apr 06 18:16 |
| DaemonFC | Microsoft and Intel work together to do this to prevent people from continuing to flog an old operating system because it's not as much of a pile of crap as their latest one. | Apr 06 18:17 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 06 18:18 |
| psydruid | it's collusion | Apr 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | They did it again with Intel Skylake. They let you install Windows 7 to it, but then all of the updates started checking to see if you were using Skylake and failing to install if you did. | Apr 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | There was a shim to lie to the update installer to pretend you were using a processor that was a year older. | Apr 06 18:18 |
| DaemonFC | Then the updates worked again. | Apr 06 18:19 |
| matey | <psydruid> I already dropped back to Mate on all of my systems, because all the other DEs are breaking left and right <- once someone calls it a desktop environment theyve probably lost already | Apr 06 18:19 |
| psydruid | I had Windows 10 installed on an SSD in my old AMD desktop from 2008 until last year summer for proctored exams and it was workable but slow | Apr 06 18:20 |
| matey | theoretically it should be no problem | Apr 06 18:20 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 06 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Processors don't change much year after year anymore. | Apr 06 18:20 |
| matey | but really, install components | Apr 06 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | So it becomes weighing them down with excess junk to make the older model seem really slow. | Apr 06 18:20 |
| matey | you dont need an "environment" | Apr 06 18:20 |
| DaemonFC | Thus, the illusion of progress. | Apr 06 18:20 |
| matey | i have a "desktop environment"-- its a window manager and applications. | Apr 06 18:20 |
| matey | but which desktop environment? well, i installed a window manager. and some applications. | Apr 06 18:21 |
| SomeH4x0r | wish they died with these exams | Apr 06 18:21 |
| SomeH4x0r | why does it matter to harass people? | Apr 06 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Microsoft has a new taskbar space waster. | Apr 06 18:21 |
| matey | SomeH4x0r who | Apr 06 18:21 |
| SomeH4x0r | proctored exams admins | Apr 06 18:21 |
| matey | ohh | Apr 06 18:21 |
| DaemonFC | It tells you the weather and takes about three inches to do it, and if you click on it, there's MSN News that only opens in Edge. | Apr 06 18:22 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imMRzBzQm1U | Apr 06 18:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=imMRzBzQm1U | Apr 06 18:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | That Time Sony Secretly Installed Rootkit Software on Hundreds of Thousands of Computers - Invidious | Apr 06 18:22 | |
| psydruid | there aren't any of those anymore fortunately | Apr 06 18:22 |
| psydruid | so I reclaimed the drive for other things | Apr 06 18:22 |
| psydruid | updates would just break stuff from one moment to another | Apr 06 18:22 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Then they settled in court and everyone got $5 and real CDs if they mailed the bogus ones in. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| psydruid | that's the true Vista experience | Apr 06 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | And everyone lived happily ever after. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 18:23 |
| MinceR | and people learned nothing from it | Apr 06 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I still run into XCP CDs at the thrift stores. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| SomeH4x0r | do these diplomas matter? A fucking record in a database. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | They do not have the CDDA logo and there's usually a warning that they may fail to play on some car stereos. | Apr 06 18:23 |
| DaemonFC | It's actually so much worse than that. | Apr 06 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | Some BMW CD players would lock up and refuse to eject the disc. | Apr 06 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | They got trapped in an endless loop of trying to play the data section of the CD as audio, over the speakers. | Apr 06 18:24 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 18:24 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 18:24 |
| MinceR | "german engineering" | Apr 06 18:25 |
| techrights-news | EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ | Apr 06 18:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights | Apr 06 18:25 | |
| DaemonFC | Well, it was more original than anything coming out of the music industry that year, I'm sure. | Apr 06 18:25 |
| SomeH4x0r | fuck the laws | Apr 06 18:25 |
| SomeH4x0r | they mismatch with morality, which is not clearly defined either | Apr 06 18:25 |
| SomeH4x0r | they exist to protect the elites while creating the illusion of justice | Apr 06 18:26 |
| bnchs__ | MinceR, dave plummer made a video about that | Apr 06 18:26 |
| *zleap (~zleap@user/zleap) has joined #techrights | Apr 06 18:26 | |
| bnchs__ | he defended AutoPlay though | Apr 06 18:27 |
| MinceR | lol | Apr 06 18:27 |
| bnchs__ | because of course, dave wrote AutoPlay | Apr 06 18:27 |
| techrights-news | FAQ: The Difference Between Centralized and Decentralized ⚓ https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ ䷉ Source: tedium | Apr 06 18:27 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: tedium.co | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://tedium.co/2022/04/06/centralization-decentralization-social-networking-faq/ | Apr 06 18:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | FAQ: The Difference Between Centralized and Decentralized | Apr 06 18:27 | |
| psydruid | dave the plumber | Apr 06 18:27 |
| psydruid | mario in disguise | Apr 06 18:27 |
| MinceR | he defends every crime IT corporations commit, doesn't he? | Apr 06 18:27 |
| psydruid | some shady mario character | Apr 06 18:27 |
| bnchs__ | "sony did a bad thing, but i swear my little autoplay child had nothing to do with it" | Apr 06 18:28 |
| *Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights | Apr 06 18:28 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I suppose if I needed AAC files, I could clunk iTunes over the head and stuff it in Wine and let foobar2000 use the "Apple AAC codec" that way. | Apr 06 18:28 |
| matey | /me has been boycotting sony since 2005 | Apr 06 18:28 |
| MinceR | and of course he "worked" for MICROS~1, so naturally he's too stupid to realize that autoplay is a bad idea | Apr 06 18:28 |
| DaemonFC | But I don't need those, thank god, I have an Android phone. | Apr 06 18:28 |
| *psydruid doesn't remember the last time he bought any sony devices | Apr 06 18:28 | |
| psydruid | he "worked" on windows 95, didn't he? | Apr 06 18:29 |
| techrights-news | Probably just changes names, goes under some other shell, carries on as usual without the burden of lawsuits https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/04/cyberweapons-arms-manufacturer-finfisher-shuts-down.html | Apr 06 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyberweapons Arms Manufacturer FinFisher Shuts Down - Schneier on Security | Apr 06 18:29 | |
| psydruid | he probably implemented the suicide feature | Apr 06 18:29 |
| bnchs__ | MinceR: he was the CTO of SoftwareOnline.com after he stopped working at microsoft | Apr 06 18:29 |
| techrights-news | "As falsified war videos and misleading information continue to circulate on Tiktok, the platform should be doing everything in its power to flag Russian propaganda and disinformation." https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Apr 06 18:29 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: accessnow.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.accessnow.org/digital-rights-ukraine-russia-conflict/ | Apr 06 18:29 | |
| bnchs__ | which got involved with Consumer Protection Act violations | Apr 06 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | Updates: Digital rights in the Russia-Ukraine conflict - Access Now | Apr 06 18:29 | |
| psydruid | 3 hours of use and it's dead | Apr 06 18:29 |
| MinceR | i don't know softwareonline.com | Apr 06 18:30 |
| bnchs__ | https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf | Apr 06 18:30 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: amazonaws.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/2006/SoftwareOnlineComplaint.pdf | Apr 06 18:30 | |
| psydruid | what a wonderful experience on my first x86 pc | Apr 06 18:30 |
| techrights-news | Was this article sponsored by Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook? https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220406-tiktok-is-having-a-bad-war-say-disinformation-experts | Apr 06 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | 'TikTok is having a bad war,' say disinformation experts | Apr 06 18:30 | |
| psydruid | and people were waiting in line to buy that turd | Apr 06 18:30 |
| psydruid | a very special turd at that | Apr 06 18:30 |
| bnchs__ | MinceR: TL;DR: softwareonline.com was a company that made fake antiviruses that would spout out ads and popups if you didn't buy it | Apr 06 18:31 |
| MinceR | fun | Apr 06 18:31 |
| bnchs__ | dave plummer was involved with that | Apr 06 18:31 |
| bnchs__ | so he had to pay a shit ton | Apr 06 18:31 |
| MinceR | also, about what i'd expect of someone from MICROS~1 | Apr 06 18:31 |
| techrights-news | A kind and gentle reminder is in order as “smart” things are better described as spy things; Social control media and ‘phones’ are no exception to this http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/social-control-media-and-apps/ | Apr 06 18:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] It’s All Connected (and Wired) | Techrights | Apr 06 18:31 | |
| techrights-news | EPO.org — the official Web site of Europe’s second-largest institution — has become an insanely dishonest propaganda outlet which incites to break the law and violate constitutions; it’s not forgivable that other European authorities are tolerating this http://techrights.org/2022/04/06/epo-org-illegal-content/ | Apr 06 18:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO.org is a Fake News Site Which Promotes and Glorifies Illegal Behaviour and Unlawful Policies | Techrights | Apr 06 18:32 | |
| bnchs__ | lol | Apr 06 18:33 |
| bnchs__ | the best malware is the ones who know the internals of the operating system they're trying to target | Apr 06 18:33 |
| bnchs__ | is made by the ones* | Apr 06 18:34 |
| MinceR | so the best malware are windows, ios and macos? | Apr 06 18:35 |
| MinceR | oh, and systemd | Apr 06 18:35 |
| bnchs__ | do you find these windows ransomware attacks odd? | Apr 06 18:35 |
| bnchs__ | because those are able to spread easier and faster because of some internal knowledge | Apr 06 18:36 |
| techrights-news | "Collaboration and sharing just make so much sense, I'm very glad the free software community exists." gemini://calcuode.com/gemlog/2020-11-21_how-i-found-out-about-foss.gmi | Apr 06 18:36 |
| techrights-news | "GOG aren't having the best of times recently, with details about their financial troubles painting a bleak picture, although it seems they have something of a plan. Later they announced some changes, including a tweak to what they mean by DRM free." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ | Apr 06 18:38 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/gog-attempt-to-bring-customers-back-with-a-revival-of-good-old-games/ | Apr 06 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOG attempt to bring customers back with a revival of Good Old Games | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 18:38 | |
| bnchs__ | "including a tweak to what they mean by DRM free." | Apr 06 18:38 |
| techrights-news | Toasty: Ashes of Dusk confirm a Native GNU/Linux build is planned, shown off on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ ䷉ Source: Gaming On Linux | GNU | Linux | Games | Apr 06 18:38 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: gamingonlinux.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/04/toasty-ashes-of-dusk-confirm-a-native-linux-build-is-planned-shown-off-on-steam-deck/ | Apr 06 18:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Toasty: Ashes of Dusk confirm a Native Linux build is planned, shown off on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinux | Apr 06 18:38 | |
| psydruid | they used to say that Linux hackers were targetting windows | Apr 06 18:38 |
| psydruid | but why would you attack something you don't know anything about? | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | Linux hackers? | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | what does that mean | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | coders? | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | white hats? | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | blackhats? | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | targeting Linux | Apr 06 18:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | using Linux | Apr 06 18:39 |
| bnchs__ | windows ransomwares are able to spread easier because maybe | Apr 06 18:39 |
| bnchs__ | just maybe | Apr 06 18:40 |
| bnchs__ | they managed to get some important internal knowledge | Apr 06 18:40 |
| psydruid | people who know Linux inside out and who would go out of their way to attack Windows | Apr 06 18:40 |
| bnchs__ | maybe a exposed port with a vulnerable service running on it | Apr 06 18:40 |
| psydruid | I don't know if you can still find these things online nowadays | Apr 06 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | <MinceR> and of course he "worked" for MICROS~1, so naturally he's too stupid to realize that autoplay is a bad idea | Apr 06 18:41 |
| techrights-news | Open source XR runtime Monado adds initial 6DoF 'inside-out' tracking support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163419#comment-33290 | Apr 06 18:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 18:41 | |
| DaemonFC | Conficker loved that. You may now romance Conficker. | Apr 06 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Also, Mr. Goolag I guess. "All the interesting people are using Windows." | Apr 06 18:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 18:41 |
| matey | they managed to get some important internal knowledge <- i mean, you can use security research methods to find vulnerabilities on any system | Apr 06 18:41 |
| MinceR | why does he hang around here, then? | Apr 06 18:41 |
| matey | you dont have to be a windows person or a "linux" person | Apr 06 18:42 |
| bnchs__ | matey: yeah but | Apr 06 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: trolling | Apr 06 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | dirt-digging | Apr 06 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | and provocation | Apr 06 18:42 |
| bnchs__ | you can bribe a microsoft programmer | Apr 06 18:42 |
| bnchs__ | for some source code | Apr 06 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | to attack us somehow, usually from the outside | Apr 06 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLAG? | Apr 06 18:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | "look at those extreme things they said when I brought up [x]" | Apr 06 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | I think he's simping, honestly. | Apr 06 18:42 |
| matey | schestowitz-TR: if you and bnchs__ are talking about the samthing i wasnt aware of it | Apr 06 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | As the kids say it these days. | Apr 06 18:43 |
| matey | i was talking about his theory | Apr 06 18:43 |
| matey | i think youre talking about something more social in nature | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:57] <Techrights-sec> mjg59 has been baiting the channel for many days now | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:57] <Techrights-sec> I was going to comment on that yesterday but got distracted | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:57] <Techrights-sec> It's important to not feed the troll but some have been writing responses to | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [10:57] <Techrights-sec> him lately; he's not going to change since he's not there in good faith anyway | Apr 06 18:43 |
| matey | <DaemonFC> I think he's simping, honestly. <- lol cmon | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:07] <Techrights-sec> however it seems he has been segueing from trolling/stalking to outright | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:07] <Techrights-sec> harrassment | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:15] <Techrights-sec> yes, but others have been feeding him | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:15] <Techrights-sec> there's nothing to be gained from any response to his provocations | Apr 06 18:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | [11:15] <Techrights-sec> stalking like that is illegal | Apr 06 18:43 |
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| bnchs__ | yeah | Apr 06 18:44 |
| matey | <Techrights-sec> stalking like that is illegal <- hanging out in irc is illegal? | Apr 06 18:44 |
| bnchs__ | mjg was a bit odd | Apr 06 18:44 |
| MinceR | schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? | Apr 06 18:44 |
| psydruid | MMHA | Apr 06 18:44 |
| matey | <bnchs__> mjg was a bit odd <- did he say something odder than usual? | Apr 06 18:44 |
| matey | i mean theres a long history of... did something happen in the past couple days? | Apr 06 18:45 |
| matey | you guys make it sound like it escalated or something | Apr 06 18:45 |
| matey | like recently | Apr 06 18:45 |
| matey | <Techrights-sec> harrassment <- debian harassment? | Apr 06 18:45 |
| matey | by debian standards or historical irc standards? | Apr 06 18:45 |
| matey | this is the internet, we used to have real flame wars | Apr 06 18:46 |
| matey | now we have tame wars | Apr 06 18:46 |
| matey | <MinceR> schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? <- he was censored for a long time, now hes not | Apr 06 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | [18:44] <MinceR> schestowitz-TR: why do we let him, though? | Apr 06 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | good question | Apr 06 18:47 |
| matey | what happened there? | Apr 06 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | his aim here is simple: to cause harm | Apr 06 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like when you allow some pervert into a FOSS conference | Apr 06 18:47 |
| bnchs__ | schestowitz-TR, obviously | Apr 06 18:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | knowing he's there looking for sex | Apr 06 18:47 |
| bnchs__ | he causes infighting | Apr 06 18:47 |
| bnchs__ | rather than actually helping | Apr 06 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if not, then he's "missing out" | Apr 06 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we don't have a CoC | Apr 06 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | we're above his lunacy | Apr 06 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | but please do not feed trolls | Apr 06 18:48 |
| psydruid | I like that he keeps working on x86 with UEFI, Secure Boot, TPM, Pluton and sucking up to Microsoft | Apr 06 18:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's where the money is | Apr 06 18:49 |
| bnchs__ | psydruid, yes that is what i don't like | Apr 06 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | also in academic | Apr 06 18:49 |
| bnchs__ | he feeds microsoft | Apr 06 18:49 |
| psydruid | as long as he is doing that stuff he can't do more dangerous things | Apr 06 18:49 |
| matey | im confused by the whole thing | Apr 06 18:49 |
| bnchs__ | rather than fighting against them | Apr 06 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Intel, Mirosoft etc. sponsor the labs | Apr 06 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | giving them stuff so that they only focus on shitty outdated systems with US back doors | Apr 06 18:49 |
| matey | first, he was uncensored-- either by evasion or (it seemed implied by some comment) by the person who runs this website. | Apr 06 18:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're more like bribes, not gifts | Apr 06 18:50 |
| psydruid | I don't want him to touch ARM, RISC-V, m68k, j-core, z80 and other hardware | Apr 06 18:50 |
| matey | also, there seems to be a lawsuit. i wasnt sure if the lawsuit is ongoing, but i wouldnt let someone into irc who was presently suing. | Apr 06 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | matey: SomeH4x0r opposed the mute list | Apr 06 18:50 |
| matey | nor would i GO to the irc of someone i was suing | Apr 06 18:50 |
| matey | <schestowitz-TR> matey: SomeH4x0r opposed the mute list <- yes | Apr 06 18:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | so we emptied it, which meant one more person could speak and disrupt like before | Apr 06 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | <bnchs__> mjg was a bit odd | Apr 06 18:50 |
| DaemonFC | WAS? | Apr 06 18:51 |
| matey | and then i presume ariadne agreed-- if onyl to prove a point | Apr 06 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Is he taking pills now or something? | Apr 06 18:51 |
| bnchs__ | no | Apr 06 18:51 |
| bnchs__ | because it's terminal | Apr 06 18:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, back to tech... I shall post some news links | Apr 06 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | I need some CaaSS anyway. | Apr 06 18:51 |
| DaemonFC | Coffee as a Sleep Substitute. | Apr 06 18:52 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 18:52 |
| techrights-news | Sam Altman’s Worldcoin Promised Them Free Crypto For An Eyeball Scan. Now They Feel Robbed. ⚓ https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems ䷉ Source: buzzfeednews | Apr 06 18:52 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: buzzfeednews.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-crypto-eyeball-scanning-orb-problems | Apr 06 18:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | Sam Altman’s Worldcoin Promised Them Free Crypto For An Eyeball Scan. Now They Feel Robbed. | Apr 06 18:52 | |
| matey | /me wasnt going to guess coffee, but that works too | Apr 06 18:52 |
| bnchs__ | i use uefi | Apr 06 18:52 |
| bnchs__ | is that bad? | Apr 06 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | UEFI uses you. | Apr 06 18:52 |
| matey | and in soviet russia, you dont call it afterwards | Apr 06 18:52 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, that reminds me. schestowitz-TR I mention in the draft post about Fedora. | Apr 06 18:52 |
| techrights-news | New: Setting up usteer and band-steering in OpenWrt https://openwrt.org/usteer?rev=1649248566&do=diff | Apr 06 18:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-openwrt.org | [OpenWrt Wiki] Setting up usteer and band-steering in OpenWrt | Apr 06 18:53 | |
| DaemonFC | That it nicely shoves all of those UEFI error messages that it vomits out all over the screen underneath the boot splash. | Apr 06 18:53 |
| MinceR | usually the braindeadness of uefi is something one can work with, but i wish i didn't need to | Apr 06 18:53 |
| DaemonFC | Well, you can turn off some of the poorly debugged security theater code that doesn't even work anyway. | Apr 06 18:54 |
| DaemonFC | At least for now, you can. | Apr 06 18:54 |
| matey | i have alterered the agreement! pray i dont alter it further | Apr 06 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are NOT eror messages | Apr 06 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | they are FULFILLMENT messages | Apr 06 18:54 |
| matey | theyre cries for help | Apr 06 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | to PROTECT uoi | Apr 06 18:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | *you | Apr 06 18:54 |
| matey | "please kill me, i wanted to be a valve on a lotus smart bidet, anything is better than this!" | Apr 06 18:55 |
| matey | "intel-me not found or functioning properly" | Apr 06 18:55 |
| matey | "please, i really cant stand this anymore, let me die" | Apr 06 18:55 |
| techrights-news | Security updates for Wednesday [LWN] ⚓ https://lwn.net/Articles/890404/ ䷉ Source: LWN | Kernel | Linux | Apr 06 18:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Security updates for Wednesday [LWN.net] | Apr 06 18:56 | |
| matey | fedora knew that wouldnt work | Apr 06 18:56 |
| matey | this is what splash screens are really for | Apr 06 18:56 |
| matey | that and hidin' bodies | Apr 06 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | "KILL ME!!!! PLEASE KILL ME!!!! OH MY BABIES! RUN!!! RUN MY CHILDREN!!!!" *cries* | Apr 06 18:57 |
| DaemonFC | Rick & Morty (when the wasp Smiths are eating the teacher (who is a larva giving birth). | Apr 06 18:57 |
| matey | good lord that show is dark | Apr 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, not only did they ignore his pleas for a mercy killing and keep eating him alive, they ate his babies too. | Apr 06 18:58 |
| MinceR | https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/One-Evening-in-a-Bathtub_52e163d3efe851.76712983.jpg | Apr 06 18:58 |
| DaemonFC | Right in front of him. Even left him one eye so he could watch it happen. | Apr 06 18:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▃▆▅▆▅▆▁▁▂▅█▅▆▄▅▄▅▅▅▁▁▁▆▆▅█▁▁▃▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 39.88 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▁▁█▂██▂▃▄█▂███▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▂▅▆▃█▁▄▁ avg(k/sec) 96.35▕ swarm size (avg): 486.46 ⟲ | Apr 06 18:59 |
| techrights-news | [ubuntu/jammy-proposed] mesa-amber 21.3.7-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) ⚓ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jammy-changes/2022-March/011765.html ䷉ Source: ubuntu | Apr 06 18:59 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | [ubuntu/jammy-proposed] mesa-amber 21.3.7-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) | Apr 06 18:59 | |
| matey | wow | Apr 06 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | <matey> good lord that show is dark | Apr 06 18:59 |
| schestowitz | SomeH4x0r: https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 | Apr 06 18:59 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 | Apr 06 18:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The State of Robotics – February & March 2022 | Ubuntu | Apr 06 18:59 | |
| schestowitz | see the colours | Apr 06 18:59 |
| DaemonFC | "I'm Mr. Meeseks! Look at me!" Rick: "Kill this Nazi son of a bitch!" Meeseks: "CAN DO!!!!!" | Apr 06 18:59 |
| bnchs__ | "nazi" | Apr 06 19:00 |
| bnchs__ | for what purpose? | Apr 06 19:00 |
| bnchs__ | i mean for what reason? | Apr 06 19:00 |
| techrights-news | What's going on with Ubuntu? Now they politicise the news about tech with Ukraine flags everywhere https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 | Apr 06 19:00 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ubuntu.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntu.com//blog/the-state-of-robotics-february-march-2022 | Apr 06 19:00 | |
| DaemonFC | For some reason almost every universe in Rick's central finite curve had turned into fascist dystopias. | Apr 06 19:00 |
| DaemonFC | He kept getting killed and rerouted into a clone vat in another fascist universe. | Apr 06 19:01 |
| bnchs__ | no | Apr 06 19:01 |
| bnchs__ | why did rick call ??? a nazi? | Apr 06 19:01 |
| techrights-news | Maybe next year Canonical will put flags of Palestine and/or of Israel in release announcements of Ubuntu | Apr 06 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | Oh, Nazi Morty. | Apr 06 19:01 |
| DaemonFC | The Meeseks killed all of them because it proceeded to strangle him, causing his gun to go off and break the glass, leading them to die in space. | Apr 06 19:02 |
| *zleap has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 06 19:02 | |
| matey | i knew rick and morty was weird, but i didnt know it was that dark | Apr 06 19:02 |
| matey | /me only knows it 2nd-hand | Apr 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's pretty great, yeah. | Apr 06 19:03 |
| matey | what network is it on? | Apr 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | I've seen most of them at least a couple of times. | Apr 06 19:03 |
| DaemonFC | Adult Swim | Apr 06 19:03 |
| matey | sounds like hollywood pre-code | Apr 06 19:03 |
| bnchs__ | i thought it was a dumb shit when i saw something about rick and morty in fortnite | Apr 06 19:04 |
| techrights-news | "Bugs and typos in Linux Bash scripts can do dire things when the script is run. Here are some ways to check the syntax of your scripts before you even run them." GNU Bash, not Linux bash. Linux is a kernel. https://www.howtogeek.com/788955/how-to-validate-the-syntax-of-a-linux-bash-script-before-running-it/ | Apr 06 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.howtogeek.com | How To Validate the Syntax of a Linux Bash Script Before Running It | Apr 06 19:04 | |
| DaemonFC | There we go. Now it's using Wireguard. | Apr 06 19:06 |
| matey | why are wireguard? | Apr 06 19:06 |
| techrights-news | GitLab should have embraced RockyLinux. AlmaLinux is licking the army boosts of criminals from Microsoft. https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ | Apr 06 19:07 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: linuxiac.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxiac.com/gitlab-switched-from-centos-8-to-almalinux/ | Apr 06 19:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxiac.com | GitLab Switched from Centos 8 to AlmaLinux as a Supported Platform | Apr 06 19:07 | |
| techrights-news | "The Linux gaming world moves FAST. Since my last guide about installing the "glorious" custom version of Valve's Proton, things have become MUCH easier." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=7eyUrL2JS9Q | Apr 06 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How To Install GE-Proton in 2022 | Works on Linux Distros + Steam Deck! - Invidious | Apr 06 19:08 | |
| techrights-news | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6 <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 06 19:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-godotengine.org | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6 | Apr 06 19:08 | |
| techrights-news | Godot Engine - Dev snapshot: Godot 4.0 alpha 6 ⚓ https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 ䷉ Source: godotengine | Apr 06 19:09 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: godotengine.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://godotengine.org/article/dev-snapshot-godot-4-0-alpha-6 | Apr 06 19:09 | |
| techrights-news | Emacs 28.1 released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163425 | Apr 06 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emacs 28.1 released | Tux Machines | Apr 06 19:09 | |
| DaemonFC | <matey> why are wireguard? | Apr 06 19:11 |
| matey | meaning what for | Apr 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | It's a lighter protocol than OpenVPN and it's in the kernel. | Apr 06 19:11 |
| matey | oh alright | Apr 06 19:11 |
| techrights-news | INNOTECH reveals the AX-1020 Atom x6000E Elkhart Lake SBC ⚓ https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ They've chosen back-doored chips | Apr 06 19:11 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: linuxgizmos.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ | Apr 06 19:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/innotech-reveals-the-ax-1020-atom-x6000e-elkhart-lake-sbc/ ) | Apr 06 19:11 | |
| matey | faster too? | Apr 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | So no reason to lug something complicated around when 4,000 lines of code that anyone can audit for bugs will do. | Apr 06 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, it can be. BitTorrent is slower than your regular connection either way, by a lot. | Apr 06 19:12 |
| matey | of course | Apr 06 19:12 |
| techrights-news | Everything is being rebranded "clown" now... https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/innovation-and-flexibility-open-design-approach-cloud-ran-and-access-networks | Apr 06 19:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Innovation and flexibility in an open design approach to Cloud RAN and access networks | Apr 06 19:12 | |
| DaemonFC | But for direct downloading, browsing, etc..... Wireguard does have better throughput. | Apr 06 19:12 |
| matey | hmm | Apr 06 19:12 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne installed and uses wineguard | Apr 06 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | The main advantage though is just being standardized, as in you get what's in the kernel and there's not much your VPN provider can do to fuck it up with some bogus implementation on the client side. | Apr 06 19:12 |
| matey | we hope | Apr 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | And it's less resource-heavy than OpenVPN is. | Apr 06 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's probably easy in linux, like kvm... | Apr 06 19:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | if it's light enough, linus will slip it into linux | Apr 06 19:13 |
| matey | and if its not, then greg will | Apr 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | Wireguard has been in the kernel for ages now. | Apr 06 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | Torvalds called OpenVPN a "horror". | Apr 06 19:13 |
| MinceR | on what basis? | Apr 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | and when? | Apr 06 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | It is. It's very complicated. There's so many ways you can set it up wrong. | Apr 06 19:14 |
| matey | of course torvalds is scared of a little floppy drive driver | Apr 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | and how is throwing it into the kernel better? | Apr 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | ah, yes, a floppy driver in the kernel is scary | Apr 06 19:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | we recently moved a client from openvpn to wireguard. They had been paying thousands per year to some firm... for openvpn "support" | Apr 06 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | Your VPN provider can also insist that you use some old and broken OpenVPN client that they cobbled together with shitty patches of their own. | Apr 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | an smb server and a vpn implementation aren't scary | Apr 06 19:14 |
| MinceR | interesting how that works | Apr 06 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | Then you don't know what you have. | Apr 06 19:14 |
| matey | MinceR: i dont have any issue with them disabling it by default | Apr 06 19:15 |
| matey | i dont understand why they couldnt just make it so you had to load it manually after booting. | Apr 06 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I used to use NetworkManager-OpenVPN with PIA. | Apr 06 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | But that's risky too, because there's no internet killswitch. | Apr 06 19:15 |
| matey | or with a kernel option, for obvious reasons | Apr 06 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | So if the VPN goes down, they could see what you're doing and you may not be able to stop the traffic in time. | Apr 06 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | I switched from PIA to NordVPN last year because PIA had gotten miserably slow. | Apr 06 19:16 |
| matey | So if the VPN goes down, they could see what you're doing <- why wouldnt it just route to a closed port? | Apr 06 19:16 |
| MinceR | booting from floppy might be a bit difficult that way | Apr 06 19:16 |
| matey | booting from floppy might be a bit difficult that way <- this is why i added the part about the kernel option | Apr 06 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the complaints about NordVPN are that their Windows and Mac clients pop up spam and junk and nonsense about their other products. | Apr 06 19:16 |
| matey | like "toram" | Apr 06 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | But the Linux client doesn't do that. | Apr 06 19:16 |
| matey | then the bootloader on the floppy calls the kernel with the floppy driver optino. | Apr 06 19:16 |
| matey | no kernel option, no driver loaded. | Apr 06 19:17 |
| MinceR | or they could focus on making their floppy driver mature instead of tossing random microsoftesque junk after random microsoftesque junk into the kernel | Apr 06 19:17 |
| matey | why this wasnt good enough? probably some bullshit we werent told about | Apr 06 19:17 |
| matey | or they could focus on making their floppy driver mature instead of tossing random microsoftesque junk after random microsoftesque junk into the kernel <- i was trying to be more realistic :) | Apr 06 19:18 |
| MinceR | but who cares, i'll probably have to maintain my own kernel if i want a sane kernel | Apr 06 19:18 |
| matey | s/probably// | Apr 06 19:18 |
| matey | imo just keep looking until you find a kernel that works for you. i dont think it will be linux | Apr 06 19:20 |
| MinceR | it could be a fork of Linux from before Torvalds was blackmailed or something | Apr 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | but it would be a herculean effort | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | `it could | Apr 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | so hopefully one of the BSDs will suffice instead | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | but i dont think anyone will work on that | Apr 06 19:21 |
| MinceR | yeah | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | i had a breaker go out a couple times recently | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | it wouldnt boot without manually running fsck_ffs | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | first time it fixed it automatically | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | second time i had to do it manually | Apr 06 19:21 |
| matey | but i didnt have to do anything else | Apr 06 19:22 |
| matey | and it dropped right to single user telling me to run fsck_ffs | Apr 06 19:22 |
| matey | i didnt even have to look up anything online | Apr 06 19:22 |
| matey | (other machine has a while before it loses power) | Apr 06 19:22 |
| matey | (so it just kept running) | Apr 06 19:22 |
| matey | but i finally know what it does when its not unmounted properly-- very similar to gnu/linux a few years back | Apr 06 19:23 |
| matey | as a plus, it still shuts down when i ask it to | Apr 06 19:23 |
| matey | gnu/linux: tells you to run fsck | Apr 06 19:25 |
| matey | openbsd: tells you RUN FSCK FFS! | Apr 06 19:25 |
| matey | /me can hear theo saying it | Apr 06 19:25 |
| MinceR | breaker? | Apr 06 19:25 |
| matey | power box, formerly fuse box | Apr 06 19:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | RUN GCC | Apr 06 19:26 |
| MinceR | oh, i thought you meant running an OS on a breaker | Apr 06 19:26 |
| matey | oh no no | Apr 06 19:26 |
| matey | that would be interesting | Apr 06 19:26 |
| matey | "is this distro powerful enough?" | Apr 06 19:26 |
| matey | "lick it and find out!" | Apr 06 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Okay, I got my desk fan for the modem to sit on. | Apr 06 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | Looks ridiculous, but hey. As long as the modem doesn't crash. | Apr 06 19:26 |
| matey | just tell them you overclocked it | Apr 06 19:26 |
| DaemonFC | My brother did something worse with his xbox 360. | Apr 06 19:27 |
| *matey has quit (connection closed) | Apr 06 19:27 | |
| techrights-news | When Qt says "Commercial" is actually means proprietary https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released | Apr 06 19:27 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: qt.io | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.qt.io/blog/commercial-lts-qt-5.15.9-released | Apr 06 19:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Commercial LTS Qt 5.15.9 Released | Apr 06 19:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Mom came in and asked why he had the air conditioner on in January and he said because his xbox 360 kept overheating and he had to put it next to the air conditioner so it would keep working. | Apr 06 19:27 |
| techrights-news | Reset your Canon printer’s maintenance cartridge with this hack | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | Hacking | Apr 06 19:28 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: arduino.cc | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/04/06/reset-your-canon-printers-maintenance-cartridge-with-this-hack/ | Apr 06 19:28 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Reset your Canon printer's maintenance cartridge with this hack | Arduino Blog | Apr 06 19:28 | |
| DaemonFC | At least this thing's just blowing room air through the modem to keep it from reachin 114 degrees! | Apr 06 19:28 |
| bnchs__ | did you know | Apr 06 19:28 |
| bnchs__ | a LG smart tv can easily be cracked | Apr 06 19:29 |
| bnchs__ | by just visiting a website | Apr 06 19:29 |
| techrights-news | APIs: The Building Blocks of Modern Software Development ⚓ https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development ䷉ Source: itprotoday (dodging discussion about software freedom) | Apr 06 19:29 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: itprotoday.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.itprotoday.com/development-techniques-and-management/why-apis-are-foundation-modern-software-development | Apr 06 19:29 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | APIs: The Building Blocks of Modern Software Development | ITPro Today: IT News, How-Tos, Trends, Case Studies, Career Tips, More | Apr 06 19:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Why would you visit a website on your TV? | Apr 06 19:30 |
| bnchs__ | here's the thing | Apr 06 19:30 |
| DaemonFC | I used to do it on my Dreamcast once in a while. | Apr 06 19:30 |
| bnchs__ | LG smart webos tv whatever | Apr 06 19:30 |
| bnchs__ | it has a web browser | Apr 06 19:30 |
| bnchs__ | and one of the things they left exposed | Apr 06 19:31 |
| bnchs__ | was their SSAP server | Apr 06 19:31 |
| techrights-news | "Wind River is proud to announce a new member of the commercially supported Wind River GNU/Linux family, Wind River GNU/Linux Distro. Distro is a binary GNU/Linux distribution created from our source code–based GNU/Linux product." https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ | Apr 06 19:31 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: windriver.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://blogs.windriver.com/wind_river_blog/2022/04/introducing-the-wind-river-linux-binary-distro/ | Apr 06 19:31 | |
| DaemonFC | Back when NOBODY had TWO computers in the house, and also people were in the family room, so no looking at porn there. | Apr 06 19:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.windriver.com | Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution | Apr 06 19:31 | |
| bnchs__ | so basically | Apr 06 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Yep, good old Planetweb browser, bringing in those JPEGs. | Apr 06 19:31 |
| bnchs__ | you could inject a rootkit | Apr 06 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | CHUNK CHUNK CHUNK. | Apr 06 19:31 |
| bnchs__ | just by visiting a website | Apr 06 19:31 |
| DaemonFC | Oh that's nothing special really. Internet Explorer did it all the time. | Apr 06 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | It was so bad the US government had to put out a warning to quit using it. | Apr 06 19:32 |
| DaemonFC | At the time I so made fun of that. I posted screenshots of my Windows 98 build stripped clean of all of that junk and my two Linux systems. | Apr 06 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | "Can't switch from Internet Explorer when there is no Internet Explorer!" B-) | Apr 06 19:33 |
| DaemonFC | Flatpaks actually make the LEAST sense on a distribution like Fedora. | Apr 06 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | You're never using software more than 6-12 months old anyway, AND they package newer builds as RPMs anyway. | Apr 06 19:34 |
| DaemonFC | So basically the only thing they do not touch is the version of GNOME that shipped in that release, except for point updates. | Apr 06 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Also, the compiler toolchain and glibc and stuff. | Apr 06 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | Basically, like the tools used to build the system and GNOME don't change except for point updates, and most anything else rolls. | Apr 06 19:35 |
| DaemonFC | I guess I would have been just as well off with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed except that I had a very bad experience with OpenSUSE while Novell owned it. | Apr 06 19:36 |
| bnchs__ | yeah but it's bad like now | Apr 06 19:36 |
| bnchs__ | right now | Apr 06 19:36 |
| DaemonFC | It was virtually impossible to set up without breaking it right away. | Apr 06 19:36 |
| bnchs__ | you can actually root your LG webos TV just by going to https://rootmy.tv/ | Apr 06 19:36 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: rootmy.tv | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://rootmy.tv/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://rootmy.tv/ | Apr 06 19:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-rootmy.tv | RootMyTV - Stage 1 | Apr 06 19:36 | |
| techrights-news | http | Apr 06 19:37 |
| bnchs__ | and sliding that "slide to root" (reminds me of that iphone jailbreak) | Apr 06 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | So don't do that! | Apr 06 19:37 |
| bnchs__ | DaemonFC: i already did | Apr 06 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Giving your TV an internet connection. Mistake #1. | Apr 06 19:37 |
| bnchs__ | DaemonFC: i didn't give it an internet connection | Apr 06 19:37 |
| bnchs__ | my dad did | Apr 06 19:37 |
| techrights-news | Sigil is a free, open-source eBook and ePUB editor for Windows, Linux, and macOS • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163426 | Apr 06 19:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sigil is a free, open-source eBook and ePUB editor for Windows, Linux, and macOS | Tux Machines | Apr 06 19:37 | |
| bnchs__ | but might aswell root it | Apr 06 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | Mine has an HDMI connection so I can drag Celluloid over to the TV and play stuff on it. | Apr 06 19:37 |
| DaemonFC | So I guess that's TECHNICALLY streaming? | Apr 06 19:38 |
| techrights-news | Antmicro releases open-source hardware Snapdragon 845 baseboard designed with KiCad - CNX Software ⚓ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/06/antmicro-open-source-hardware-snapdragon-845-baseboard-designed-with-kicad/ ䷉ Source: Linux | GNU | Hardware | cnxsoftware | Apr 06 19:38 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Antmicro releases open-source hardware Snapdragon 845 baseboard designed with KiCad - CNX Software | Apr 06 19:38 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, You'll be happy to know that Mozilla changed Firefox again. | Apr 06 19:39 |
| DaemonFC | It no longer has privileged web process, it has isolated web container. | Apr 06 19:39 |
| techrights-news | GNU, not Linux https://www.fosslinux.com/52963/what-is-bash-shell-and-know-its-importance-in-linux.htm | Apr 06 19:40 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslinux.com | What is Bash shell, and know its importance in Linux | FOSS Linux | Apr 06 19:40 | |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: woohoo | Apr 06 19:41 |
| bnchs__ | know its importance in Linux | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | another bonus to the CEO | Apr 06 19:41 |
| bnchs__ | Bash shell is very important to Linux | Apr 06 19:41 |
| bnchs__ | like a shell is important to a kernel | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | mozilla firefox pollutes the system with many proceses | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | beyond one per tab | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | librewold does not correct this | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | it just changes the name of these processes | Apr 06 19:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: linux is not a kernel | Apr 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's "OS" | Apr 06 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Oh that's another thing. | Apr 06 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | I want to replace bash with fish. | Apr 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | dolphin is now a file manager | Apr 06 19:42 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks for reminding me. | Apr 06 19:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | solphin is a file system! | Apr 06 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | DaemonFC: how do you seperate linux from its lover | Apr 06 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | and replace it with another one | Apr 06 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | now it wont work | Apr 06 19:42 |
| bnchs__ | you must know its importance in Linux | Apr 06 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | Well, once tuna went dolphin safe, the dolphins had to go get jobs. They coasted on being an endangered species for long enough. Free ride's over. Time to be a file manager. | Apr 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | albert@fish # | Apr 06 19:43 |
| DaemonFC | There's no shame in being a file manager you know. It's posh. | Apr 06 19:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | my job is manager | Apr 06 19:44 |
| DaemonFC | My grandfather dug ditches for a living when he had to, even when the man from the finance company was repossessing his car. | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | what do you manage? | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | lots of files | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I manage the bins" | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm a manager | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | of a coffee machine | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | "I manage the cups" | Apr 06 19:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | janitors are managers | Apr 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they manage the dust and stuff | Apr 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | epstein was also a manager | Apr 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was managing many rich people | Apr 06 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | GNOME 42 isn't that bad I suppose. Now, my favorite part is they FINALLY did a dock at the bottom of the screen. | Apr 06 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | Where the damned thing is supposed to be. | Apr 06 19:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | he was their "agent" | Apr 06 19:45 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I suppose the "windows" button actually makes sense on GNOME outside the context of Windows the OS. | Apr 06 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | If you press it, it cascades all the open windows and brings up the dock and the virtual desktops. | Apr 06 19:46 |
| DaemonFC | So it pretty much does exactly what someone would expect the key to do even if it wasn't the Windows logo. | Apr 06 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | This mess with libadwaita will settle down eventually. | Apr 06 19:47 |
| DaemonFC | There will be gripes from users, there will be more gripes from developers going "well it always worked until you did THAT". | Apr 06 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | But in a release or two, I doubt anyone will remember the dust up it caused. | Apr 06 19:48 |
| DaemonFC | In the end, you shouldn't have to go to a Tweaks tool that's a collection of band-aids for bad GUI design. | Apr 06 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | It's nice to see that Tweaks is becoming less and less while the stuff that matters gets moved over to where people will find it. | Apr 06 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | Should have happened years ago. This never should have gone on this long. | Apr 06 19:49 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I have quite the sticker collection on my old laptop. | Apr 06 19:50 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora, GNU, GNOME, Linux, various odds and ends including a bunch I got at the zen garden in Rockford. | Apr 06 19:51 |
| DaemonFC | That battery I got off Amazon has held up incredibly well too. Better than the one that came from Lenovo. | Apr 06 19:51 |
| bnchs__ | zoomers remember: pull requests | Apr 06 19:55 |
| bnchs__ | boomers remember: sending patches in mailing lists | Apr 06 19:56 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820373.jpg | Apr 06 19:58 |
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| bnchs__ | MinceR: like that blender logo in thrid | Apr 06 19:59 |
| bnchs__ | third* | Apr 06 19:59 |
| bnchs__ | i mean fourth | Apr 06 20:00 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npnjIixWeVQ | Apr 06 20:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npnjIixWeVQ | Apr 06 20:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> yewtu.be | Tabby cat who came to me by meowing when she saw me is so affectionate - Invidious | Apr 06 20:38 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm looking at cars again. | Apr 06 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | Right now I'm looking at used police cars. | Apr 06 20:45 |
| MinceR | crown vic? | Apr 06 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | I've kind of been wanting another Crown Victoria, yeah. :) | Apr 06 20:45 |
| DaemonFC | They're fun. | Apr 06 20:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Apr 06 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | They're a lot faster than a Chevy Impala and they get about the same awful gas mileage, so that's a wash. | Apr 06 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | But they're durable, and super cheap to repair. | Apr 06 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | You get to pick your poison. | Apr 06 20:46 |
| DaemonFC | A gas guzzler that holds up and is cheap and easy to fix. | Apr 06 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | Or something newer that costs more money and saves a little gas, but is harder to work on, so more expensive. | Apr 06 20:47 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Found a 2011 with 80,000 miles for $7,999 at the local used car stealership. | Apr 06 20:48 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the later ones were fleet and so they almost always end up on these types of lot. Not private party. | Apr 06 20:49 |
| DaemonFC | Stupid government gas mileage mandates. Didn't save any fuel. | Apr 06 20:50 |
| DaemonFC | Just pushed everyone to buy killer SUVs and "pick up trucks" with about 4 inch long beds because those weren't regulated as cars. | Apr 06 20:51 |
| DaemonFC | So now when you get in a crash, it's with one of those assholes. | Apr 06 20:51 |
| MinceR | presumably not maintaining the roads isn't helping either | Apr 06 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Nope. | Apr 06 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | You're guaranteed to hit three potholes every day here. | Apr 06 20:52 |
| DaemonFC | Ohhh, a 2007 detective model. | Apr 06 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | Nicer interior, red..... $1,000 less than the 2011. | Apr 06 20:56 |
| DaemonFC | No rust. Looks like they took care of it. | Apr 06 20:56 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▇▁▄▃▆█▇▂▁▄▁▂▄▅▁▁▆▃▆▅▂█▂▄▄▁▁▅▃▁▅▁ avg(k/sec) 26.78 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▁█▂▄▂█▁▁▇▃▂▇█▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▄███▁▁▆▂▁ avg(k/sec) 74.80▕ swarm size (avg): 302.18 ⟲ | Apr 06 20:59 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.yourchoiceautos.com/details/used-2004-mercury-grand-marquis/79761282 | Apr 06 21:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.yourchoiceautos.com/details/used-2004-mercury-grand-marquis/79761282 ) | Apr 06 21:10 | |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Apr 06 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | They said they still have it. I'm going over tomorrow to look at it and to take it to my mechanic to have them look it over real good. | Apr 06 21:10 |
| DaemonFC | If my mechanic says it's good, I'm in for $4,000. What the hell? | Apr 06 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | That thing looks SHARP. | Apr 06 21:11 |
| MinceR | it does? | Apr 06 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Yep yep. | Apr 06 21:11 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: have you ever considered improving the world | Apr 06 21:11 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, I help those who help themselves. | Apr 06 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | I help myself, so I help me all the time. | Apr 06 21:12 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Apr 06 21:12 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820350.jpg | Apr 06 21:16 |
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| immibis | DaemonFC: meanwhile shitting on literally everyone else | Apr 06 21:20 |
| immibis | everyone in a position worse than yours is their because they're dumb incompetent lazy idiots | Apr 06 21:21 |
| immibis | everyone in a position better than yours is cheating | Apr 06 21:21 |
| immibis | stop being so negative and do something useful for once | Apr 06 21:21 |
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| DaemonFC | Someone with billions of dollars probably did do something nasty. | Apr 06 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | Of course, keeping hold of that much money is nasty in and of itself. | Apr 06 21:32 |
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| techrights-news | Linux Mint 21 Code Name Announced with New Upgrade Utility and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163427 | Apr 06 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 Code Name Announced with New Upgrade Utility and More | Tux Machines | Apr 06 21:43 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163428 | Apr 06 21:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Apr 06 21:43 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Mint 21 is named 'Vanessa' http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163423#comment-33291 | Apr 06 21:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux Mint 21 “Vanessa” Will Be Based on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, New Upgrade Tool in the Works | Tux Machines | Apr 06 21:44 | |
| immibis | in LWN comments people were complaining about SUSE's new CoC allowing discrimination based on ideology | Apr 06 21:49 |
| immibis | DaemonFC: if you don't want them to act nasty to people below them, maybe you shouldn't act nasty to people below you | Apr 06 21:49 |
| techrights-news | The Automation Myth gemini://beyondneolithic.life/articles/the_automation_myth.gmi | Apr 06 21:51 |
| techrights-news | GNU Bash in GNU/Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163429 | Apr 06 21:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Bash in GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Apr 06 21:52 | |
| techrights-news | RE: Lightweight GUIs, TUIs gemini://iveqy.com/gemlog/2022-04-06_re_lightweight_guis_tuis.gmi "I installed linux, Red Hat 5.2 and was happy, until I upgraded to Fedora and my computer got painful slow again!" | Apr 06 21:52 |
| techrights-news | "This project will of course be open-source in the future, but as this is still completely unusable (I have just started on the project yesterday), this will have to wait a little bit. " gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/04/06/another-new-project/ | Apr 06 21:53 |
| techrights-news | "On a previous gemlog, I described how I prefer to use my electronics device in a greyscale (desaturated) mode for accessibility and anti-doomscrolling reasons, as colour processing is nontrivial." gemini://rosenzweig.io/gemlog/2022-04-06-update-a-smol-kernel-hack.gmi | Apr 06 21:54 |
| techrights-news | "We can introduce people to the topic via FOSS frontends for existing platforms, such as NewPipe for YouTube and Nitter for Twitter." gemini://jsreed5.org/log/2022/202204/20220406-economic-woes-and-foss.gmi | Apr 06 21:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: I saw all those comments | Apr 06 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they wete not unreasonable | Apr 06 21:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | *were | Apr 06 21:56 |
| techrights-news | When your 'browser' is about 30 million lines of code https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-firefox-esr-and | Apr 06 21:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Mozilla Releases Security Updates for Firefox, Firefox ESR, and Thunderbird | CISA | Apr 06 21:58 | |
| techrights-news | ProprietarySoftware = Garbage. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/citrix-releases-security-updates-hypervisor "An attacker could exploit this vulnerability to cause a denial-of-service condition." | Apr 06 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Citrix Releases Security Updates for Hypervisor | CISA | Apr 06 21:59 | |
| techrights-news | Also: when your 'browser' is over 30 million lines of code: "This version addresses vulnerabilities that an attacker could exploit to take control of an affected system." https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/google-releases-security-updates-chrome | Apr 06 22:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISA | Apr 06 22:00 | |
| *psydruid supports the ideology of pastafarianism | Apr 06 22:00 | |
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| techrights-news | India’s Criminal Procedure (Identification) Bill jeopardizes privacy — it must not be enforced - Access Now ⚓ https://www.accessnow.org/indias-criminal-procedure-identification-bill-jeopardizes-privacy/ ䷉ Source: accessnow | Apr 06 22:03 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.accessnow.org | India’s Criminal Procedure (Identification) Bill jeopardizes privacy — it must not be enforced - Access Now | Apr 06 22:03 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: don't chu fart in ma paste | Apr 06 22:03 |
| schestowitz-TR | *pasta | Apr 06 22:03 |
| techrights-news | Phoronix still jumping the shark for AMD marketing. I'm quickly losing interest in anything the site has to show, even links it has in it... | Apr 06 22:04 |
| techrights-news | Microsoft's shill is still promoting proprietary nonsense. https://tirania.org/blog/archive/2022/Apr-06.html see http://techrights.org/2022/03/05/miguel-quits-or-pushed-out/ | Apr 06 22:06 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tirania.org | - Miguel de Icaza | Apr 06 22:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ”Miguel de Icaza may be gone, but the walls and bars of proprietary software he helped create remain, for now. Dismantling them is up to us.“ | Techrights | Apr 06 22:06 | |
| techrights-news | Download and Test Inkscape 1.2 Beta • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163430 | Apr 06 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Download and Test Inkscape 1.2 Beta | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:06 | |
| techrights-news | Planet GNONE: Microsoft employees. Criminal company OK, just don't unset the precious CoC (compatible with crimes). | Apr 06 22:07 |
| MinceR | g-none, nice | Apr 06 22:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | lol | Apr 06 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | People tend to go where the money is at. | Apr 06 22:07 |
| DaemonFC | You can hardly blame them for doing the job, but actually liking the fact that they cause harm.....something else. | Apr 06 22:08 |
| MinceR | (audio:music) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/820246.mp4 | Apr 06 22:08 |
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| techrights-news | A Vanishing Nova: *Uranographia Britannica* (ca. 1749) – The Public Domain Review ⚓ https://publicdomainreview.org/collection/bevis-uranographia/ ䷉ Source: publicdomainreview | Apr 06 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicdomainreview.org | A Vanishing Nova: *Uranographia Britannica* (ca. 1749) – The Public Domain Review | Apr 06 22:08 | |
| techrights-news | "According to Foré, she and Blaede quickly hammered out a handshake agreement." https://fossforce.com/2022/04/elementary-os-faces-uncertain-future-after-co-founder-split/ | Apr 06 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fossforce.com | Elementary OS Faces Uncertain Future After Co-Founder Split - FOSS Force | Apr 06 22:11 | |
| immibis | schestowitz-TR: I am not worried that ideologies like Nazism are discriminated against. I am worried that people think it's bad to discriminate against any ideologies, including Nazism. | Apr 06 22:11 |
| techrights-news | Regulatory Competition: Where the UK Stands on Tech - Disruptive Competition Project ⚓ https://www.project-disco.org/competition/040622-regulatory-competition-where-the-uk-stands-on-tech/ ䷉ Source: project disco | Apr 06 22:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.project-disco.org | Regulatory Competition: Where the UK Stands on Tech - Disruptive Competition Project | Apr 06 22:11 | |
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| immibis | The main reason someone would think it's bad to discriminate against Nazism, is that they're a Nazi. | Apr 06 22:11 |
| schestowitz-TR | immibis: that's taking the more extreme/edge casde | Apr 06 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | *case ... the nazi straw man has been widely used to sell online censorship | Apr 06 22:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | even when it had nothing to do with nazism | Apr 06 22:14 |
| techrights-news | Mozilla entering politics again. Ukraine and Russia. ⚓ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/mozilla-explains/cyberattack-meaning-russia-ukraine/ ䷉ Source: Mozilla | WWW | FreeSW | Firefox | Internet | Apr 06 22:15 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | What is a cyberattack and what can we do to protect ourselves online? | Apr 06 22:15 | |
| techrights-news | "Short for malicious software, malware generally refers to any program designed to take harmful actions against a computer system or network." Sounds like today's Mozilla Firefox ⚓ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/cyberattacks-glossary-of-terms-ransomware-ddos/ ䷉ Source: Mozilla | WWW | FreeSW | Firefox | Internet | Apr 06 22:16 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | A glossary of terms about cyberattacks, from ransomware to DDoS | Apr 06 22:16 | |
| techrights-news | 7 of the Best USENET Newsgroups Still Active Today - Make Tech Easier ⚓ https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-usenet-newsgroups/ ䷉ Source: maketecheasier (WTF is with this photo? Man with Apple PC wearing shades in the dark???) | Apr 06 22:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | 7 of the Best USENET Newsgroups Still Active Today - Make Tech Easier | Apr 06 22:18 | |
| techrights-news | "Apparently, in some parts of this world, the /usr/-merge transition is still ongoing. Let's take the opportunity to have a look at one specific way to take benefit of the /usr/-merge (and associated work) IRL." MinceR https://0pointer.net/blog/running-an-container-off-the-host-usr.html | Apr 06 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-0pointer.net | Running a Container off the Host /usr/ | Apr 06 22:19 | |
| MinceR | no thanks | Apr 06 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | last chance! | Apr 06 22:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | going eins! | Apr 06 22:20 |
| bnchs__ | i wanna know | Apr 06 22:20 |
| bnchs__ | i always thought usenet required a seperate line from the internet | Apr 06 22:21 |
| bnchs__ | or am i wrong? | Apr 06 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | line? | Apr 06 22:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | like bbs? | Apr 06 22:21 |
| bnchs__ | there is still BBS servers out there | Apr 06 22:22 |
| bnchs__ | like telnet servers (oldass insecure) | Apr 06 22:22 |
| bnchs__ | or SSH server (secure) | Apr 06 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | in 2020 I looked into running bbs | Apr 06 22:22 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it turned out to be useless for us | Apr 06 22:22 |
| techrights-news | "Automotive Grade Linux (AGL), a collaborative cross-industry effort developing an open source platform for all connected car technologies, announces IndyKite, Marelli and Red Hat as new Bronze members." https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html | Apr 06 22:23 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: prnewswire.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/indykite-marelli-and-red-hat-join-automotive-grade-linux-301519317.html | Apr 06 22:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | IndyKite, Marelli and Red Hat Join Automotive Grade Linux | Apr 06 22:23 | |
| bnchs__ | heh, techrights BBS site | Apr 06 22:23 |
| techrights-news | [Those should run Free software only, otherwise you harm them] Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Providing Veterans, Students With Refurbished Computers - Public Knowledge ⚓ https://publicknowledge.org/public-knowledge-urges-congress-to-pass-bill-providing-veterans-students-with-refurbished-computers/ ䷉ Source: publicknowledge | Apr 06 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-publicknowledge.org | Public Knowledge Urges Congress To Pass Bill Providing Veterans, Students With Refurbished Computers - Public Knowledge | Apr 06 22:24 | |
| schestowitz-TR | bnchs__: we already have the whole site as text and gemtext | Apr 06 22:25 |
| bnchs__ | well thats good | Apr 06 22:25 |
| techrights-news | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-05 Edition - Boiling Steam ⚓ https://boilingsteam.com/new-steam-games-with-native-linux-clients-2022-04-05-edition/ ䷉ Source: boilingsteam | Apr 06 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | New Steam Games with Native Linux Clients - 2022-04-05 Edition - Boiling Steam | Apr 06 22:25 | |
| techrights-news | Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained <p><img src="" border="0" align="left" width="160" hspace="20" vspace="20" style="padding: 17px 17px 17px 17px; box-shadow: 5px 5px 5px #222;" /> <p class="dropcap-first"> <a href="https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/"><img src="/files/read-on-white.png" alt="Read more" title="Read the rest of this article" /></a> | Apr 06 22:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained | Apr 06 22:27 | |
| techrights-news | Joystick with Arduino: How to Interface with Code Explained ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ ䷉ Source: peppe8o | Apr 06 22:27 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: peppe8o.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://peppe8o.com/joystick-with-arduino-how-to-interface-with-code-explained/ | Apr 06 22:27 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm definitely going to look at some Panther platform cars tomorrow. Getting rid of my 96 was one of the worst mistakes I've ever made. | Apr 06 22:30 |
| techrights-news | The ordering operators | Aristotle [blogs.perl.org] ⚓ http://blogs.perl.org/users/aristotle/2022/04/ordering-ops.html ䷉ Source: perl | Apr 06 22:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The ordering operators | Aristotle [blogs.perl.org] | Apr 06 22:32 | |
| techrights-news | [Too US-centric] Free Cybersecurity Resources for Protecting Your Organization ⚓ https://www.fosslife.org/free-cybersecurity-resources-protecting-your-organization ䷉ Source: fosslife | Apr 06 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Free Cybersecurity Resources for Protecting Your Organization | Apr 06 22:33 | |
| techrights-news | WeasyPrint converts any HTML webpage into a rich PDF document https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ needs to delete proprietary software GitHub, controlled by Microsoft (criminals) and NSA | Apr 06 22:36 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: medevel.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://medevel.com/weasyprint/ | Apr 06 22:36 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | WeasyPrint converts any HTML webpage into a rich PDF document | Apr 06 22:36 | |
| techrights-news | Atom: Access to Memory. The Web Catalog • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163431 | Apr 06 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Atom: Access to Memory. The Web Catalog | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:37 | |
| techrights-news | "In this video, I am going to show how to install deepin 20.5." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OQ_wYk5iRpM | Apr 06 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How to install deepin 20.5. - Invidious | Apr 06 22:37 | |
| techrights-news | How to Install Latest Firefox as classic Deb in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook ⚓ https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ ䷉ Source: UbuntuHandbook | FreeSW | GNU | Linux | Apr 06 22:38 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: ubuntuhandbook.org | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2022/04/install-firefox-deb-ubuntu-22-04/ | Apr 06 22:38 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ubuntuhandbook.org | How to Install Latest Firefox as classic Deb in Ubuntu 22.04 | UbuntuHandbook | Apr 06 22:38 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163432 | Apr 06 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163433 | Apr 06 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware/Modding: Arduino and More | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163434 | Apr 06 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Introducing the Wind River Linux Binary Distribution | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Deadliest COVID-19 day in the UK since 2019. About 3,000 deaths. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ | Apr 06 22:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has “DATA ISSUE” and “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ | Apr 06 22:49 | |
| techrights-news | Games: GOG, Steam, and Godot Engine • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163435 | Apr 06 22:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GOG, Steam, and Godot Engine | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:51 | |
| techrights-news | 66.6% of that is Microsoft https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog | Apr 06 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Known Exploited Vulnerabilities Catalog | CISA | Apr 06 22:55 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/04/06/cisa-adds-three-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog http://techrights.org/2022/04/04/lies-infiltration-and-nsa/ | Apr 06 22:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | CISA Adds Three Known Exploited Vulnerabilities to Catalog | CISA | Apr 06 22:55 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lies, Infiltration, and the National Security Agency | Techrights | Apr 06 22:55 | |
| techrights-news | CUPS and Raspberry Pi AirPrinting • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/163436 | Apr 06 22:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | CUPS and Raspberry Pi AirPrinting | Tux Machines | Apr 06 22:56 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▇▄▇▇▇█▅▅▅▆▅▅▇▆▇▆▅▇▅▆▅▇▇▆▄▇▆▆▅▁ avg(k/sec) 36.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▂▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▃▂▃█▂▃▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 32.10▕ swarm size (avg): 353.78 ⟲ | Apr 06 22:59 |
| techrights-news | Soy can be soy drink (if processed) or milk substitute, but never call it soy milk as it's basically a marketing lie/sham. | Apr 06 23:00 |
| schestowitz | psydruid: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 | Apr 06 23:01 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-MWAIT-Over-HALT-2022 | Apr 06 23:01 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Patch To Use MWAIT Instead Of HALT For Certain Cases Yield A ~21% Improvement - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:01 | |
| schestowitz | AMD changed some lines of code | Apr 06 23:01 |
| schestowitz | their PR guys is on the case | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | obv. it's major news | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | it's not like code is committed to Linux every day | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | by multiple companies | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | I've seen enough to spot the bias | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | some days 1/3 articles there is AMD | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | which is still a relatively small company | Apr 06 23:02 |
| schestowitz | 6-7 times fewer heads than Intel | Apr 06 23:02 |
| psydruid | is it doing anything for the company, though? | Apr 06 23:03 |
| techrights-news | Webspam disguised as "deals"; Laura Tucker and this site are mostly spam. No disclosure. A lot of the Web became like that. https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/logitech-mk570-wireless-wave-keyboard-and-mouse-combo/ | Apr 06 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Save $10 on a Logitech MK570 Wireless Wave Keyboard and Mouse Combo - Make Tech Easier | Apr 06 23:04 | |
| psydruid | I'm glad I haven't bought any of their hardware since 2009 | Apr 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: yes, it helps AMD | Apr 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | but michael had a huge fan in me | Apr 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he's throwing it away | Apr 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | I just cannot support his site anymore | Apr 06 23:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's like a marketing operation | Apr 06 23:05 |
| psydruid | I'm a fan of no one | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | like I said to him | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 1-2 processors? FINE. | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | I GET that. | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | but he went way too far. | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: he works super-hard | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | 100+ hours a week | Apr 06 23:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | about 10 'articles' a day | Apr 06 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but some of them are like ads | Apr 06 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | and his site ads were already getting annoying | Apr 06 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but I thought, OK... well, if that's a source of inecome | Apr 06 23:06 |
| psydruid | I haven't read much there recently | Apr 06 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | but when the "content" beomes ads, GOOD. BYE! | Apr 06 23:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | OK, let me walkyou through | Apr 06 23:06 |
| psydruid | as the articles aren't relevant to me anymore | Apr 06 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/RSS/ | Apr 06 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 401 @ http://schestowitz.com/RSS/ ) | Apr 06 23:07 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wrong URL | Apr 06 23:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's mine, personal | Apr 06 23:07 |
| schestowitz | http://phoronix.com/ | Apr 06 23:07 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/http://phoronix.com/ https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/http://phoronix.com/ | Apr 06 23:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Hardware Reviews, Open-Source Benchmarks & Linux Performance - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:07 | |
| schestowitz | latest: AMD Patch To Use MWAIT Instead Of HALT For Certain Cases Yield A ~21% Improvement | Apr 06 23:07 |
| schestowitz | AMD | Apr 06 23:07 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | AMD+Microsoft | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Ready With Mesa 22.0, Early Intel Arc Graphics Enabled & Amber Added | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | OK, dine | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | *fine | Apr 06 23:08 |
| *SomeH4x0r has quit (Quit: I expect to be back tomorrow) | Apr 06 23:08 | |
| schestowitz | AMD Readies Linux Patches For x2AVIC Support | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | AMD again | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | so latest 4 stories: | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | 3 AMD stories | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | 1 Microsoft | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | and come on, AMD isn't a BIG thing | Apr 06 23:08 |
| schestowitz | you might THINK it is | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | IF you read Microbell | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | because he keeps mentioning them so much | Apr 06 23:09 |
| psydruid | the only thing I find mildly interesting is the tachyum article | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | I could take a screenshot | Apr 06 23:09 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | But I think we established this point already | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | no need to admonish any more | Apr 06 23:09 |
| schestowitz | re tachyum article | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I took that | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | but | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | the original | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | he just took the original tachyum article | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | a press release | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | and copy pasted some bits | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | I can just go to the source | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | it's in English | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | it's clear | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | and has more navigation buttons so I can get more info | Apr 06 23:10 |
| schestowitz | anbd no annoying ads and popups | Apr 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | the ads in phoronix have your data sent to about 500 companies | Apr 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | when you get presented with a popup ask for more info | Apr 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | and then scroll down the list | Apr 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | I think I did this in a video once, then copy pasted the list into text editor | Apr 06 23:11 |
| schestowitz | then line count | Apr 06 23:11 |
| psydruid | AMD hasn't been relevant to me since 2009 and not for people I've done stuff for since 2013 | Apr 06 23:12 |
| psydruid | and I don't see them becoming relevant to me ever again | Apr 06 23:13 |
| techrights-news | "Based on some random data a bunch of news outlets started saying that nobody is adopting Windows 11 and microsoft is dissapointed but looking at prior Windows releases tells a very different story." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8hihk3UC3Ig http://techrights.org/2022/01/26/microsoft-delighted-by-failure/ | Apr 06 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Hmmm, maybe a Buick. | Apr 06 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? - Invidious | Apr 06 23:13 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft ‘Delighted’ by Windows 11 (Vista 11) Usage, Which is Only 1% Three Months After Official Launch and Six Months After Release Online | Techrights | Apr 06 23:13 | |
| psydruid | they suffer from "Small Intel Syndrome" | Apr 06 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | You can't really go too wrong with the 3800 Buick V6. The car will just rust apart around that. | Apr 06 23:13 |
| techrights-news | If Brodie Robertson gets his 'info' from Reddit, sooner or later he'll be repeating Microsoft shills and trolls | Apr 06 23:14 |
| psydruid | you need an adblocker on Phoronix like you need one anywhere else on the web | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: good disgnosis | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | re AMD | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: I have that | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | some do not | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and if I link to that site | Apr 06 23:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | I do not treat people well | Apr 06 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | I already strip ?trackers=garbage-for-spying from URLs | Apr 06 23:15 |
| schestowitz-TR | with phoronix there's no printer-friendly version | Apr 06 23:15 |
| techrights-news | Planet GNOME is shilling proprietary software by keeping Miguel de Icaza in it (link omitted) http://techrights.org/wiki/Miguel_de_Icaza#2022 | Apr 06 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miguel de Icaza - Techrights | Apr 06 23:16 | |
| psydruid | AMD's bread and butter is Windows | Apr 06 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 06 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | PCs | Apr 06 23:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | but they also want the server share | Apr 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | with gnu/linux | Apr 06 23:17 |
| psydruid | I can see them losing market share to ARM in servers over the next few years | Apr 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | now they have steam dReck to cheer for | Apr 06 23:17 |
| psydruid | even Microsoft is adding ARM servers to Azure now | Apr 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: even microsloth now advertises those chips for clown | Apr 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | I did not link to any of the articles | Apr 06 23:17 |
| schestowitz-TR | of course they mention "linux" | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | because windows in microsoft clown would not run on these | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | afaik, phoronix did not mention this | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | I was a bit surprise | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | some flattering article about "azure" | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "click here to find more" | Apr 06 23:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | "thanks to mirosoft for providing access for benchmarks" | Apr 06 23:18 |
| psydruid | Azure ARM servers are going to run GNU/Linux | Apr 06 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I have not watched https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8hihk3UC3Ig | Apr 06 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Has Windows 11 Adoption Really Stopped? - Invidious | Apr 06 23:19 | |
| psydruid | I don't think there is any demand for Windows on ARM | Apr 06 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | I am guessing he got his 'info' from Microsoft liars | Apr 06 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | and decided to do 'contrarian' video | Apr 06 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | lying for Microsoft, basically... | Apr 06 23:19 |
| schestowitz-TR | anyway, I'll not add this link to tuxmachinex | Apr 06 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'll add e ditorial comments in TR Daily Links | Apr 06 23:20 |
| psydruid | I'm watching it now | Apr 06 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | phoronix frustrates mer | Apr 06 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | I linked to phoronix like 30,000 times | Apr 06 23:20 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE | Apr 06 23:20 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: cargurus.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-Ford-Crown-Victoria-Waukegan-d324_L7297#listing=318229898/NONE | Apr 06 23:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Used Ford Crown Victoria for Sale in Waukegan, IL - CarGurus | Apr 06 23:20 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: he thinks reedit is "research" (his word) | Apr 06 23:20 |
| schestowitz-TR | filtered by reddit sponsors like Microsoft | Apr 06 23:21 |
| psydruid | I bet he liked the free traffic | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | no, wait | Apr 06 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | 250 horsepower? Nice. My 1996 only produced 205. | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | phoronix wa good | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | but not anymore | Apr 06 23:21 |
| DaemonFC | "There have been some improvements." | Apr 06 23:21 |
| psydruid | and now he doesn't need it anymore | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck to him with his new friends | Apr 06 23:21 |
| psydruid | since he has sold out | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't get paid JACK | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | I PAY to run techrights | Apr 06 23:21 |
| schestowitz-TR | why would I spent my time putting food on the table of AMD "influencer"? | Apr 06 23:22 |
| psydruid | I wouldn't | Apr 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug | Apr 06 23:22 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-AMDGPU-Hotplug | Apr 06 23:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft Working On AMD GPU Hotplug Support For Linux Driver - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:22 | |
| schestowitz | he covers it for AMD | Apr 06 23:22 |
| schestowitz | not for Microsoft | Apr 06 23:22 |
| psydruid | but I wouldn't have done it in the first place | Apr 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 | Apr 06 23:23 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=epyc-azure-hbv3&num=1 | Apr 06 23:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD EPYC 7003 Series Performance In The Cloud With Microsoft Azure HBv3 HPC VMs - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | AMD | Apr 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft | Apr 06 23:23 |
| psydruid | then again there weren't many such sites at the time | Apr 06 23:23 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 | Apr 06 23:23 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milan-x&num=1 | Apr 06 23:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Announces Milan-X 3D V-Cache CPUs, Azure Prepares For Great Upgrade - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:23 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 | Apr 06 23:24 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: phoronix.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-milanx-hbv3&num=1 | Apr 06 23:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Milan-X Upgrade In The Cloud Makes Microsoft Azure HBv3 Very Compelling For HPC Review - Phoronix | Apr 06 23:24 | |
| schestowitz | then there's microsoft pluton and amd | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | I could go on and on | Apr 06 23:24 |
| psydruid | all this shows to me is that AMD is scared | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | his AMD shilling becomes Microsoft marketing | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | he sends business to Microsoft | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | (and AMD) | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amdazure&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome | Apr 06 23:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cse.google.com | Programmable Search Engine | Apr 06 23:24 | |
| psydruid | the opposite message of what they want to convey | Apr 06 23:24 |
| schestowitz | https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amd+azure&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome | Apr 06 23:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cse.google.com | Programmable Search Engine | Apr 06 23:25 | |
| schestowitz | better url | Apr 06 23:25 |
| psydruid | at AWS Graviton grew just as much if not more than AMD | Apr 06 23:25 |
| psydruid | so AMD gravitates towards Microsoft | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | pluton at top https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-0253814508491313:1305299758&ie=UTF-8&q=amd+microsoft&sa=Search&ref=www.phoronix.com/scan.php%3Fpage%3Dhome | Apr 06 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cse.google.com | Programmable Search Engine | Apr 06 23:26 | |
| schestowitz | he's not shilling mirosoft | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | he shills amd | Apr 06 23:26 |
| psydruid | until Microsoft does the same thing to them | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | but amd shills microsoft | Apr 06 23:26 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | so inadvertently, the new bosses of michael made him microsoft shills | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | this I cannot accept | Apr 06 23:26 |
| schestowitz | so the site is not compromised | Apr 06 23:27 |
| schestowitz | it's run by its "shareholders" | Apr 06 23:27 |
| schestowitz | and those shareholders are not on our side | Apr 06 23:27 |
| schestowitz | it's like LF "lite" | Apr 06 23:27 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg | Apr 06 23:27 |
| -altlink_cd4/#techrights-📣 CloudFlare: hugelolcdn.com | 🙆 Alternative: https://web.archive.org/web/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg https://timetravel.mementoweb.org/memento/202204/https://hugelolcdn.com/i/820242.jpg | Apr 06 23:27 | |
| psydruid | it just makes it much less interesting than it used to be | Apr 06 23:28 |
| schestowitz | is the Brodie Robertson video a case of "I saw some random troll say"? | Apr 06 23:28 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/06/09/reddit-infiltrated/ | Apr 06 23:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Crime Persists: AstroTurfing a Regular Practice, Reddit Full of Paid Microsoft AstroTurfers | Techrights | Apr 06 23:29 | |
| psydruid | I need to watch it again, it became one big blurb of nonsense | Apr 06 23:29 |
| techrights-news | Slackware: Chromium 100 out-of-band security update addresses (again) a single vulnerability | Alien Pastures ⚓ https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/chromium-100-out-of-band-security-update-addresses-again-a-single-vulnerability/ ䷉ Source: Slackware | Apr 06 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-alien.slackbook.org | Chromium 100 out-of-band security update addresses (again) a single vulnerability | Alien Pastures | Apr 06 23:30 | |
| psydruid | I heard Microsoft Windows over and over | Apr 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | vista 11 is one big BLOB; of nonsense | Apr 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | Brodie Robertson invests a lot in production quality | Apr 06 23:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | camera mic etc. | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but sometimes I do not agree with him | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | not many gnu/linux channels remain | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | gulagtube starves them (off traffic) | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | so they stop posting "new conteeeeeent" | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | distrotube complained the other dayt | Apr 06 23:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | about gulagtube also suspending linux channels | Apr 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | without much awareness that this was happening | Apr 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | eventually I hope more of them will self-host videos like we do | Apr 06 23:32 |
| bnchs__ | "well uhhh i got you a book on designing software" | Apr 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | fsf uses peertube and self-hosted mediagoblin | Apr 06 23:32 |
| schestowitz-TR | peertubew =p2p | Apr 06 23:32 |
| psydruid | gulagtube is more and more becoming malware | Apr 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | yes, twitter too | Apr 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2 years ago youtube would not even open without js | Apr 06 23:33 |
| schestowitz-TR | it shows phantom objects | Apr 06 23:33 |
| psydruid | I rarely use the official interfaces anymore | Apr 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | twitter in end of 2020 (dec 16th iirc, after 15th was set in stone) did similar stuff | Apr 06 23:34 |
| schestowitz-TR | and now you cannot even follow links | Apr 06 23:34 |
| psydruid | although in the case of twitter you can't avoid it | Apr 06 23:34 |
| psydruid | querying twitter through a bot is more useful to me now | Apr 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | try opening t.co links without JS | Apr 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | and see what happens | Apr 06 23:35 |
| psydruid | I don't | Apr 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | I noticed it this week for the first time | Apr 06 23:35 |
| psydruid | there is a not on irc that allows you to do a @tsearch | Apr 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | their link shortener does not redirect unless you run their proprietary program | Apr 06 23:35 |
| schestowitz-TR | on your computer | Apr 06 23:35 |
| psydruid | bot* | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | use nitter | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | I use nitter in a script | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | in the past you could do twitter via email | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | notifications | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they shut this down | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | next was rss feeds | Apr 06 23:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | they obliterated the "service" | Apr 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | even the notifications are now mostly SPAM | Apr 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | so even wasting 2 minutes there would be 2 minutes wasted | Apr 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | like watching ads | Apr 06 23:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | and getting nothing of value | Apr 06 23:37 |
| techrights-news | Old skool = good school https://jmtd.net/log/Hope_in_a_Darkened_Heart/ | Apr 06 23:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jmtd.net | jmtd → log → Hope in a Darkened Heart | Apr 06 23:38 | |
| psydruid | I think the future is decentralised servers run on low-power chips, maybe even party solar-powered | Apr 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | yeah | Apr 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | my pi has run ok for months | Apr 06 23:38 |
| schestowitz-TR | since the microsd breakdown | Apr 06 23:38 |
| bnchs__ | really? | Apr 06 23:38 |
| bnchs__ | low-power servers | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | now I back up the whole system, even root and boot, to external storage | Apr 06 23:39 |
| bnchs__ | that's great | Apr 06 23:39 |
| psydruid | yes | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so recovery would take only minutes | Apr 06 23:39 |
| bnchs__ | i mean it would only run a web server | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | literally boot from the other media device | Apr 06 23:39 |
| bnchs__ | and a IRC server | Apr 06 23:39 |
| bnchs__ | or something | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and rianne has a rasp400 | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | so I have a spare machine too | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | and spare routers in case I need those | Apr 06 23:39 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure how home hosting would work for irc | Apr 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | irc needs low latency | Apr 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | and many concurrent connections | Apr 06 23:40 |
| psydruid | even my 5-year-old orange pi can run everything for a home environment | Apr 06 23:40 |
| schestowitz-TR | I very much doubt running this irc network from home would scale ok, esp. for network lags | Apr 06 23:40 |
| psydruid | of course you need more compute power for more serious services | Apr 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini is OK with high latency | Apr 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe it'll take 1 second to load, not 100ms | Apr 06 23:41 |
| psydruid | but the hardware will grow up | Apr 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | I've not moved to fibreoptics yet | Apr 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | they wanted to make me the first in our area | Apr 06 23:41 |
| psydruid | 5 watt in 2030 will give you a lot more compute than 5 watt gave you in 2020 | Apr 06 23:41 |
| schestowitz-TR | and I quit when I saw it was something they were ill equipped to deliver reliably | Apr 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | they compensated me 90 pounds for the trouble | Apr 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2030 will be a harsh time | Apr 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | not sure we'll worry about home hosting | Apr 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz-TR | 2022 is worse than 2008 | Apr 06 23:42 |
| psydruid | maybe | Apr 06 23:42 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/04/06/data-issue/ | Apr 06 23:43 |
| psydruid | unless societies get reformed | Apr 06 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Over 20,000 COVID-19 Patients in British Hospitals, NHS Reports It Has “DATA ISSUE” and “2,714 Deaths [...] Added Retrospectively on 6 April 2022″ | Apr 06 23:43 | |
| psydruid | we could see more wars | Apr 06 23:43 |
| psydruid | including civil ones | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | more | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's the key word | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | we already have wars | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | ukraine and maybe poland next | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | or moldova | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | my sister works with some ukrainian programmers | Apr 06 23:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | they're affected, obv. | Apr 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | notice how 'normalised' attacks on the Internet became | Apr 06 23:44 |
| psydruid | I know many people in those countries | Apr 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | I gave examples as recently as this morning | Apr 06 23:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | there would be uproar if the same things happened a decade ago | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | they purge a ton of material online | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and take down networks etc. | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | so THAT is the future of the Net | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the Web | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | the Net | Apr 06 23:45 |
| psydruid | as I lived and worked there and also visited over the years | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | imagine them taking down IRC networks | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | for not being with NATO or whatever | Apr 06 23:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | networks, not channels | Apr 06 23:46 |
| psydruid | I'm wondering if this wasn't always the idea behind the net | Apr 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "your letsencrypt cert has been revoked" | Apr 06 23:46 |
| psydruid | a means to control societies | Apr 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | "reason: radical content; citing some White House Internet Directive[NUMBER]" | Apr 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | Microsdoft is still banning persians in github | Apr 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | gitLAB also | Apr 06 23:46 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you have iranian 'blood', you are "cracker" | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | US never cracks aanyone | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is "normal" now | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is NOT for development | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | for access too | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | cannot access gitLAB repos | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | to GET code | Apr 06 23:47 |
| psydruid | "if they are all on the net wasting time playing video games and makng tiktok videos, they own' find out that we are ruining their societies" | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | because Iran... WANTS to have nukes | Apr 06 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | never mind India and Pak already having hundreds | Apr 06 23:48 |
| psydruid | won't* | Apr 06 23:48 |
| psydruid | Iran can be bullied, India not | Apr 06 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | Imram Kahn has just attacked his own democracyt | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | and he has nukes | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but that's OK | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | Mosharaf et al ensure US 'controls' the place | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | until Kahn does photo ops with Putin | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe github will block kashmir and jammu next | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | like it did the oblasts in ukraine | Apr 06 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: IRAN Kahn :-) | Apr 06 23:50 |
| psydruid | I read about Imran Khan a few days ago, but I don't remember what exactly it was about | Apr 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | <khan | Apr 06 23:50 |
| psydruid | :D | Apr 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | sorry for typo, bad habit | Apr 06 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | Tehran Khan | Apr 06 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | Tehraniran Khan | Apr 06 23:51 |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 06 23:51 | |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Apr 06 23:51 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.democracynow.org/2022/4/5/pakistan_pm_khan_blocks_no_confidence | Apr 06 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.democracynow.org | Pakistan in Crisis After PM Imran Khan Dissolved Parliament & Accused U.S. of Plotting Regime Change | Democracy Now! | Apr 06 23:52 | |
| psydruid | the guy who stole the tech from here and then sold it to Iran and North Korea died a few years ago | Apr 06 23:52 |
| psydruid | I think | Apr 06 23:52 |
| schestowitz | https://thehill.com/opinion/international/586567-pakistan-is-opening-a-dangerous-pandoras-box-with-the-taliban | Apr 06 23:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehill.com | Pakistan is opening a dangerous Pandora’s box with the Taliban | The Hill | Apr 06 23:52 | |
| schestowitz | we posted some more in Dails Links today (me looks at clock; 7 mins to ,mmidnight) | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | well, not to give hints to itran | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | and to kimkom | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | but they need to self-host | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | the code also | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | to ensure they maintain access to programs | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | mirror repos | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | and self-host | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | use BSD/GNU/Linux | Apr 06 23:53 |
| schestowitz | anything else is foolishness | Apr 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | like venezuela using the clown | Apr 06 23:54 |
| schestowitz | and then getting cut off coz "trump tantrum" | Apr 06 23:54 |
| psydruid | Abdul Qadeer Khan died a few months ago even | Apr 06 23:55 |
| psydruid | they can probably get hardware from China | Apr 06 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | china is laughing at the whole thing | Apr 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | business as usual in china | Apr 06 23:56 |
| psydruid | but there also has to be a willingness to self-host things | Apr 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | they just plan when to 'repossess' those factories in taiwan | Apr 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | .tw would get invaded while us is like...errr.... "should have joined nato" | Apr 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | (joke) | Apr 06 23:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then what? | Apr 06 23:57 |
| psydruid | which could be dangerous in Iran if you have a contrary opinion | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | nuclear war? | Apr 06 23:57 |
| psydruid | that won't happen | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: wait | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | this is not an iran issue | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's a global issus | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | even in the uk | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I'm careful not to tackle us issues | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | I don't want my home raided | Apr 06 23:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | epo is safer to us | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we're already baited and troll by nsa-connected idiots | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | who want to discredit us | Apr 06 23:58 |
| psydruid | yes, but if they block you in iran, you just build your own infrastructure | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | *trolled | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | iran is not so developed | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | in all sorts of ways | Apr 06 23:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and home hosting there would likely be a challenge | Apr 06 23:59 |
| psydruid | it has become clear how important that has become | Apr 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | no "clown provider" would build there, except maybe chinese or russian | Apr 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: btw, one troll broke our IRC rules | Apr 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | which we set in 2009 | Apr 06 23:59 |
| psydruid | I would say it's more developed than several European countries | Apr 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | he issued threats to me | Apr 06 23:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | and we pardoned him for it | Apr 06 23:59 |
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