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XRevan86 | MinceR: funny? | Oct 06 00:05 |
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MinceR | yes | Oct 06 00:06 |
XRevan86 | If you saw so. | Oct 06 00:06 |
XRevan86 | say | Oct 06 00:06 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/689083.jpg | Oct 06 00:11 |
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schestowitz | >> Apparently, Debian's "Free Software Guidelines" are fine with a shim | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > binary signed by Microsoft, but not an SNES emulator with a "no | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > commercial use" clause. | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > Neither should be considered "Free as in Freedom" though he's right that | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > Debian is inconsistent about this. | Oct 06 00:56 |
schestowitz | > Nobody take this the wrong way, but the silliest thing I read this week | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > was someone wishing the FSF a happy birthday. | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > 1. What's happy about it? | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > 2. Was rms invited? | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > I almost didn't mention it, but then question 1 is rhetorical. I | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > actually want to know the answer to question 2. Probably nobody knows or | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > nobody says, so it's rhetorical in the sense that we probably won't | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | > know. But we might find out, and I want to. | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | They now sell T-Shirts about it!!! | Oct 06 00:57 |
schestowitz | "Dumb, Restrictive Microsoft" | Oct 06 00:58 |
MinceR | :) | Oct 06 01:14 |
MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/58f45cf7f27543a3.jpg | Oct 06 02:01 |
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schestowitz | chaekyung: re your mesa piece | Oct 06 10:48 |
schestowitz | see http://techrights.org/2020/08/31/linux-should-reject-github/ | Oct 06 10:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Kernel Needs to Reject Rust for the Same Reason Linus Torvalds Rejects GitHub (Where Rust is Hosted and Developed) | Techrights | Oct 06 10:48 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | Okay, I have to go down to the post office and figure out what's going on with Mandy's EAD before they send it back to the government. | Oct 06 13:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Might be nothing. | Oct 06 13:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | They use random "non-delivery" codes sometimes so that it's "not late" lately. | Oct 06 13:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | This is fucking terrible. It's sending people into full panic because it's immigration documents, heart medicine, who knows what. | Oct 06 13:45 |
DaemonFC[m] | And it just say "Herp derp. There was an incomplete address on this and we might send it back if we can't figure it out.". | Oct 06 13:45 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/689167.jpg | Oct 06 13:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Yeah, that's why I have to wear a mouth guard when I'm sleeping. | Oct 06 14:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's probably sleep apnea, but I can't afford ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS to go get it checked out. | Oct 06 14:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | Too busy paying the hospital bills of everyone my "president" walks around infecting while he still won't put on a mask. | Oct 06 14:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It's okay that Trump pays less tax to the feds than a Walmart worker on a cash register job. | Oct 06 14:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | He pays "lots and lots of state taxes" you see. | Oct 06 14:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | Of course, nobody can verify that because nobody has his New York returns, only the federal ones that show that he paid less than $100 on an average year over the past 16 years. | Oct 06 14:03 |
MinceR | people should ignore that claim until he proves it | Oct 06 14:04 |
MinceR | he's been caught orange-handed already, there's no need to be naive | Oct 06 14:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | The guy's such a deadbeat he even figured out how to screw the IRS and walk away. | Oct 06 14:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm impressed on a certain level. | Oct 06 14:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | To most people you worry about the IRS, the state tax department, your landlord, and then your unsecured creditors in roughly that order. | Oct 06 14:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because you have to have a place to live and the tax people will get it all from you somehow. | Oct 06 14:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | The rest can just annoy you until you file bankruptcy. | Oct 06 14:06 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/689121.jpg | Oct 06 14:14 |
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thddx | today on the radio, i heard a trumpeteer describe him as a 'stud' after witnessing his swift 'recovery' | Oct 06 15:18 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 06 15:19 |
thddx | it's amazing how differently people can perceive the world | Oct 06 15:20 |
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thddx | hedonistic feedback loops and unresolved pathologies constraining perspective | Oct 06 15:22 |
MinceR | cults and cognitive dissonance | Oct 06 15:23 |
thddx | it's frustrating because it's all so preventable | Oct 06 15:29 |
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MinceR | is it? | Oct 06 15:34 |
MinceR | humans seem to be very vulnerable to memes | Oct 06 15:34 |
_I3^RELATIVISM | https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap/ | Oct 06 15:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hyperbola.info | Hyperbola - News: Announcing HyperbolaBSD Roadmap | Oct 06 15:35 | |
_I3^RELATIVISM | nice project | Oct 06 15:35 |
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DaemonFC[m] | So the people at the post office put Mandy's EAD back in the outgoing mail. | Oct 06 15:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | It went to the Distribution Center in Palatine. | Oct 06 15:52 |
DaemonFC[m] | And they're telling me there's nothing wrong with the address and so they're going to send it back to the post office for delivery. | Oct 06 15:52 |
smnthermes | OpenBSD also has a monolithic kernel, so | Oct 06 15:52 |
_I3^RELATIVISM | ? | Oct 06 15:53 |
MinceR | https://refraction.network/ | Oct 06 15:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-refraction.network | Refraction Networking | Oct 06 15:54 | |
MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/02/6dbf7ea28e159c38.jpg | Oct 06 16:24 |
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schestowitz | [15:52] <DaemonFC[m]> And they're telling me there's nothing wrong with the address and so they're going to send it back to the post office for delivery. | Oct 06 17:10 |
schestowitz | could be worse | Oct 06 17:10 |
schestowitz | unmarked van could snatch your busband | Oct 06 17:10 |
schestowitz | *hus | Oct 06 17:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's not funny. | Oct 06 17:11 |
schestowitz | I didn't say it | Oct 06 17:11 |
schestowitz | I didn't say it was | Oct 06 17:11 |
schestowitz | In times of autocracy satire becomes unfunny | Oct 06 17:12 |
schestowitz | but tbh you could find a way to pick up the EAD | Oct 06 17:12 |
schestowitz | easier then to pick up a grown man with vigilante "border control" | Oct 06 17:12 |
schestowitz | *then | Oct 06 17:12 |
schestowitz | *>than | Oct 06 17:12 |
schestowitz | these thugs would more likely send your home an IED than an EAD | Oct 06 17:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: We have to get out of this motel. | Oct 06 17:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | The price went up and now it's getting more dangerous. | Oct 06 17:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Someone smashed up the glass on the fire extinguisher case last night and there's fucking glass everywhere. Then they went up to the third floor and busted a window out. | Oct 06 17:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's the fourth window in 3 months. | Oct 06 17:17 |
schestowitz | hmmm.. | Oct 06 17:18 |
schestowitz | maybe it's time to move on then | Oct 06 17:18 |
schestowitz | less safety, higher cost | Oct 06 17:18 |
smnthermes | https://old.reddit.com/user/CAP_NAME_NOW_UPVOTE | Oct 06 17:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | overview for CAP_NAME_NOW_UPVOTE | Oct 06 17:18 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I'd kind of like to move out before it's ours. | Oct 06 17:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yep. | Oct 06 17:18 |
smnthermes | That guy is moderator of so many tech subreddits | Oct 06 17:18 |
smnthermes | Weird | Oct 06 17:18 |
schestowitz | is that you, smnthermes? | Oct 06 17:18 |
schestowitz | I saw this name before | Oct 06 17:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: If it was just one or the other maybe I wouldn't be itching to leave so quickly. | Oct 06 17:18 |
schestowitz | in privacy forums | Oct 06 17:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | I put in an application for an apartment yesterday. She said if we don't meet the credit requirements, it's just going to be a bigger deposit. | Oct 06 17:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's fine. | Oct 06 17:19 |
schestowitz | ok | Oct 06 17:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I had to admit on the form that I have an arrest record and a bankruptcy. So who knows. | Oct 06 17:19 |
schestowitz | depends | Oct 06 17:19 |
schestowitz | maybe not much competition | Oct 06 17:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Both of them would come up anyway so there's no sense in trying to lie about it. | Oct 06 17:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | She didn't seem to imply that a Class C Misdemeanor is a big deal. | Oct 06 17:20 |
schestowitz | [13:45] <DaemonFC[m]> This is fucking terrible. It's sending people into full panic because it's immigration documents, heart medicine, who knows what. | Oct 06 17:22 |
schestowitz | Might not be suggestive of anything | Oct 06 17:22 |
schestowitz | if intentional, report it to a site like ProPublica | Oct 06 17:22 |
schestowitz | They'd make a good story out of it | Oct 06 17:22 |
schestowitz | they cover those usps scandals and immigration wars very well | Oct 06 17:22 |
schestowitz | and issue calls for other people who had similar experiences to corroborate patterns | Oct 06 17:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I set my credit card to make an automatic payment of the minimum due each month. That way it's impossible to get a late payment even though I can still make a payment every day. | Oct 06 17:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | It dawned on me that you really don't want to slip up here or there's no point in trying to rebuild. | Oct 06 17:49 |
schestowitz | election soon | Oct 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | hell will break loose afterwards | Oct 06 17:53 |
schestowitz | MORE so if orange dotard loses both popular and electoral | Oct 06 17:54 |
schestowitz | I mean, expect some violence | Oct 06 17:54 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I might go up there and ask them to cancel my mail in ballot and let me vote in person. | Oct 06 17:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | The post office still hasn't delivered it. | Oct 06 17:56 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's been 10 business days. | Oct 06 17:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The clerk's office was pretty annoyed that people were requesting mail in ballots and then asking to sign the affidavit that they hadn't arrived in a reasonable amount of time on the very first day of early voting. | Oct 06 17:58 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I get that. But what kind of mail takes 10 business days and it's still not there? | Oct 06 17:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | I simply don't trust the post office anymore. | Oct 06 17:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I think I'll go ask for the affidavit that the post office is taking too long. | Oct 06 17:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the ballot does arrive, you're supposed to destroy it because it's invalid and trying to vote twice is a felony. | Oct 06 17:59 |
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schestowitz | the idea is to sabotage the electiob | Oct 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | then people on either side get angry | Oct 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | inauguration day postponed | Oct 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | it goes to court | Oct 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | trump meanwhile stirs up national chaos | Oct 06 18:01 |
schestowitz | and scotus says trump can stay while chaos distracts from outrage over it | Oct 06 18:02 |
schestowitz | he was never supposed to be inaugurated in the first place | Oct 06 18:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | With what the post office is turned into I don't trust them as far as I could throw the post office itself. | Oct 06 18:02 |
schestowitz | treason all across the board in 2016 | Oct 06 18:02 |
schestowitz | lots of opportunistic useful idiots... not for putin only... for oligarchs. They got a LOT richer sense. | Oct 06 18:03 |
schestowitz | *since | Oct 06 18:03 |
schestowitz | Post Office will shut down until ALL stamps have Trump's face on em ;-) | Oct 06 18:03 |
schestowitz | Winnie the POOP Dotard | Oct 06 18:04 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I'm walking to the courthouse. | Oct 06 18:24 |
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DaemonFC[m] | They make you pay to park anywher close. | Oct 06 18:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | I could use the walk, honestly. | Oct 06 18:25 |
scientes | I haven't written code in quite a while, and I don't really know what to write. | Oct 06 18:27 |
scientes | all my ideas were always "fast, fast, fast, fast" | Oct 06 18:27 |
scientes | I guess writting an implementation of regular expressions would still be interesting | Oct 06 18:28 |
scientes | getting the data structures right | Oct 06 18:28 |
scientes | and not implementing non-regular expressions | Oct 06 18:28 |
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scientes | I still have a bit of affinity for the zig project, but I don't think they will ever take C code into their project despite being very similar | Oct 06 18:31 |
scientes | yeah, I can only really implement regular expressions | Oct 06 18:34 |
scientes | because otherwise my premature optimization hat turns on | Oct 06 18:35 |
schestowitz | are you still coding gnu gcc stuff? | Oct 06 18:44 |
schestowitz | it moved to git some months back | Oct 06 18:44 |
schestowitz | iirc, esr was deeply involved in this | Oct 06 18:44 |
schestowitz | for years in fact | Oct 06 18:44 |
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scientes | But considering that the Bolshevicks are coming I don't think it is a good time for proving such skills https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-bolsheviks-are-coming-part-i.html | Oct 06 19:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: The Bolsheviks Are Coming! (Part I) | Oct 06 19:10 | |
scientes | schestowitz, I did come contribution to glibc, otherwise I have only worked on llvm compiler | Oct 06 19:10 |
schestowitz | ok, cool, scientes | Oct 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | btw | Oct 06 19:11 |
scientes | schestowitz, ESR maintains gpsd | Oct 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | today at the gym I tried accessing the videos you posted | Oct 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | the vimeo one would not work | Oct 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | old android on some exercise machine | Oct 06 19:11 |
scientes | region-blocked? | Oct 06 19:11 |
schestowitz | maybe plugin issue | Oct 06 19:11 |
scientes | pre-<Video> probably | Oct 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | the one of youtube is blocked | Oct 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | unless you sign in | Oct 06 19:12 |
scientes | yeah that's why i posted the vimeo | Oct 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | says it might hurt my feelings otherwise :0) | Oct 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | youtube protecting people... from singers | Oct 06 19:12 |
schestowitz | [15:42] <scientes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMvUlxXyz8 | Oct 06 19:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-M.I.A. - Born Free - YouTube | Oct 06 19:13 | |
schestowitz | [15:42] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- M.I.A. - Born Free - YouTube | Oct 06 19:13 |
schestowitz | this one | Oct 06 19:13 |
schestowitz | as if it's nsfw | Oct 06 19:13 |
scientes | yeah, using youtube-dl it appears that vimeo only has avc1 and DASH | Oct 06 19:13 |
schestowitz | I never saw that in such a context | Oct 06 19:13 |
schestowitz | nothing "graphical" about it | Oct 06 19:14 |
scientes | which is actually pretty crazy that they wouldn't even have vp8 | Oct 06 19:14 |
scientes | or even h.264 | Oct 06 19:14 |
scientes | schestowitz, so even if it did play, it wouldn't play cause software decoding of avc1 is *horrible* | Oct 06 19:15 |
scientes | that decision on vimeo's part needs you need super recent hardware to play their videos | Oct 06 19:15 |
scientes | the biggest reason that h.264 ended up winning is because of hardware decode over vp8 (although google is forcing the manufactures to include vp8 hardware decode) | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | web video was bad | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | windows media player | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | than a bit better | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | now worse again | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | first flash | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | now eme/drm | Oct 06 19:16 |
schestowitz | and now lots of bloat and indecent system reqs | Oct 06 19:17 |
schestowitz | so many things that used to work no longer do | Oct 06 19:17 |
scientes | and MPEG-LA is a horrible mafiaa that also tries to discourage people from working on codec improvement | Oct 06 19:17 |
XRevan86 | > You also find that the US has fallen far behind both Russia and China in weapons development, to a point where most of what the US has is obsolete and completely useless. | Oct 06 19:17 |
schestowitz | in chrome the videos auto-pause when you move to another tab, unless it's a youtube antifeature | Oct 06 19:17 |
XRevan86 | scientes: haha | Oct 06 19:17 |
schestowitz | so video is not getting BETTER for the USERS | Oct 06 19:17 |
schestowitz | but for CONTENT [sic] OWNERS [sic] | Oct 06 19:18 |
schestowitz | copyright cartel | Oct 06 19:18 |
scientes | schestowitz, also firefox on android will unload your tab while the video plays, just because you are using another tab | Oct 06 19:18 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: all they need is nukes now | Oct 06 19:18 |
scientes | and you can't turn it off in about:config unless you get the beta version | Oct 06 19:18 |
schestowitz | any weapon you can make will never be as good as h-bombs or newer | Oct 06 19:18 |
schestowitz | even MOAB is like a joke | Oct 06 19:18 |
scientes | because firefox disabled about:config in release firefox | Oct 06 19:18 |
schestowitz | you can use mini-nukes instead | Oct 06 19:18 |
scientes | schestowitz, dude a mini-nuke is a oxymoron | Oct 06 19:19 |
schestowitz | but then it's not "convential" and you get bad name for cancer nearby for years to comes | Oct 06 19:19 |
scientes | the nukes that were dropped on japan are basically "mini-nukes" | Oct 06 19:19 |
schestowitz | like anti-tank missiles with enriched cancer-causing crap (to penetrate the shell) | Oct 06 19:19 |
scientes | and they are not in the slightest big "mini" | Oct 06 19:19 |
scientes | *bit | Oct 06 19:19 |
schestowitz | you can go smaller | Oct 06 19:20 |
schestowitz | but | Oct 06 19:20 |
scientes | XRevan86, oh, I was actually referring to part II | Oct 06 19:20 |
schestowitz | not sure if the thing that sets of the chain reaction can be made small enough | Oct 06 19:20 |
scientes | the part about people selling miricle cures | Oct 06 19:20 |
scientes | and the cows being reprogrammed to produce soy milk | Oct 06 19:20 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I cannot take this piece seriously. | Oct 06 19:21 |
schestowitz | pain-free 'safe' milk | Oct 06 19:21 |
schestowitz | there's no soy milk by the way | Oct 06 19:21 |
schestowitz | it's soy drink | Oct 06 19:21 |
schestowitz | the plants don't lactate | Oct 06 19:21 |
scientes | > There will be free health care, free education, open borders and a guaranteed income for all. And Modern Monetary Theory will pay for all of it. In the process, greenhouse gas emissions, cow farts and all, will completely disappear; hot air exhaled by politicians will contain only noble gases; cows will be reprogrammed to produce soy milk. With help from magic elves, cars will be powered by wind generators and solar panels. Chains of | Oct 06 19:21 |
scientes | tradition shall be rent asunder and a perfect new world shall be born full of racial and gender equality and guaranteed positive outcomes for everyone. Being well versed in history, you do not have to think too hard about what this new political movement should be called: Bolshevism. And since you already know how that story ends, you climb back into your freezer chest to wait things out. | Oct 06 19:21 |
scientes | that is the part that related to me | Oct 06 19:21 |
scientes | XRevan86, its irrelevent if you live in somewhere with sane people | Oct 06 19:22 |
schestowitz | water+sufar+falavoring+some soy and additive | Oct 06 19:22 |
schestowitz | *sugar | Oct 06 19:22 |
schestowitz | or other sweetening agents (some don't have any, but the soy drink is then very bland) | Oct 06 19:22 |
scientes | > With help from magic elves, cars will be powered by wind generators and solar panels. | Oct 06 19:22 |
scientes | like this is how people actually think in the US | Oct 06 19:23 |
scientes | and they usually are the ones with the trust funds from their parents | Oct 06 19:23 |
schestowitz | they think? | Oct 06 19:23 |
schestowitz | "I have debt, but my ma has a house" | Oct 06 19:23 |
scientes | schestowitz, yes they do, but you see, cognative dissonance takes its tolll | Oct 06 19:23 |
schestowitz | wait till the economy crashes absolutely and those homes too are reverse-mortgaged | Oct 06 19:23 |
scientes | especially ont he trust fund babies | Oct 06 19:23 |
scientes | every else is just suppose to roll over and die | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | and when "ma" died you need to pay for her funeral | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | while the bank repossesses 'her' home | Oct 06 19:24 |
scientes | <schestowitz> and when "ma" died you need to pay for her funeral | Oct 06 19:24 |
scientes | it's illegal to just bury her in the back yard, too | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | TrumpCare | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | I kill half a million with COVID | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | and I "care" | Oct 06 19:24 |
schestowitz | unlike Obama, I give burial site space | Oct 06 19:25 |
scientes | I've read whole books that just cover how much of a racket the death business is | Oct 06 19:25 |
schestowitz | ObamaCare=keeps the poor alive sometimes | Oct 06 19:25 |
scientes | it would be cheaper to hire people to kill them that to give them the government-mandated funeral | Oct 06 19:25 |
XRevan86 | https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2020/09/the-novichok-spa-treatment.html for Pete's sake | Oct 06 19:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cluborlov.blogspot.com | ClubOrlov: The Novichok Spa Treatment | Oct 06 19:25 | |
schestowitz | TrumpCare=takes the corpse out of your apartment free of charge, "and good luck with the covid you got from this dead one" | Oct 06 19:25 |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843y5u2pFOs | Oct 06 19:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EVERY EXTERMINATE! - Doctor Who Supercut - YouTube | Oct 06 19:25 | |
XRevan86 | "The intended use of Novichok is to instantly kill everyone around." – that's why the actual intended use is to apply it to very personal belongings | Oct 06 19:26 |
XRevan86 | which in Navalny's case disappeared in an unknown direction | Oct 06 19:26 |
scientes | they did do the "chemical weapons!" thing on Gaddafi | Oct 06 19:27 |
scientes | and as usually, smart people all knew they were lying, again | Oct 06 19:27 |
XRevan86 | Pieskov said stuff like "they took the water bottle from the hotel!" | Oct 06 19:27 |
scientes | there certainly was some people killed in protests | Oct 06 19:27 |
XRevan86 | but Navalny's clothes were just pushed under the rug | Oct 06 19:27 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qBlPa-9v_M | Oct 06 19:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Futurama - Bender's Dream (Kill All Humans) - YouTube | Oct 06 19:28 | |
XRevan86 | > Novichok is an unstable gas | Oct 06 19:29 |
XRevan86 | it can be used as a powder | Oct 06 19:29 |
XRevan86 | what a competent person | Oct 06 19:29 |
scientes | yes, I agree that is similar to the annoying anthrax stuff | Oct 06 19:29 |
XRevan86 | *and* Novichok is a loosely connected series of various chemicals, not a single thing | Oct 06 19:30 |
scientes | XRevan86, I just looked up that it is a acytacholine blocker | Oct 06 19:30 |
scientes | and then I didn't really care to learn any mroe | Oct 06 19:30 |
XRevan86 | > Given all the perfectly reasonable and reliable ways to kill a person, why on Earth would anyone even bother to do that? | Oct 06 19:31 |
XRevan86 | *very* simple: it's more sneaky than shooting a guy | Oct 06 19:31 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142922 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7ef0de19-f04f-4115-9a89-1916d2fd0ace] | Oct 06 19:32 | |
XRevan86 | Niemtsov was shot on a bridge near Kremlin, yet everyone's still unhappy | Oct 06 19:32 |
XRevan86 | it's not a chemical, what else could you possibly want, you picky bastards | Oct 06 19:32 |
XRevan86 | > is to instantly kill everyone around. | Oct 06 19:33 |
XRevan86 | Also… not instantly. | Oct 06 19:33 |
XRevan86 | depends on the dosage and the way it got into the organism | Oct 06 19:34 |
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Kernel: Intel and Google http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142923 [https://pleroma.site/objects/257072b8-8fa5-439a-9802-a80f4cc89a4d] | Oct 06 19:35 | |
XRevan86 | scientes: Why do you read Club Orlov? He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. | Oct 06 19:37 |
XRevan86 | and these are very serious topics | Oct 06 19:37 |
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XRevan86 | I'd be more forgiving if he had given a room for being mistaken. | Oct 06 19:39 |
XRevan86 | Media like Meduza ran like crazy to find experts in the field, to give coverage about what actually happened. And Orlov is like oh, I'm sure it's just a gas with only one way to apply it and everyone competent is lying | Oct 06 19:42 |
scientes | Meduza...... | Oct 06 19:43 |
scientes | (although I admit I am reading it in English) | Oct 06 19:43 |
scientes | https://meduza.io/en/news/2020/10/06/kyrgyzstan-s-prime-minster-steps-down-is-replaced-by-dissident-freed-from-prison-just-hours-earlier | Oct 06 19:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 06 19:43 | |
scientes | what the hell | Oct 06 19:43 |
*scientes only read the headline | Oct 06 19:43 | |
schestowitz | I will read it tomorrow | Oct 06 19:43 |
schestowitz | on kate | Oct 06 19:43 |
XRevan86 | Kirgizia is revolting again | Oct 06 19:44 |
scientes | what percentage of the population only speaks Russian? | Oct 06 19:44 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: I don't see information on that. | Oct 06 19:46 |
XRevan86 | 500000 people said it's their first language. How many of them know another language – who knows. | Oct 06 19:47 |
scientes | out of 18mil | Oct 06 19:47 |
scientes | ok, not so much | Oct 06 19:47 |
scientes | oh, I just met one of them | Oct 06 19:48 |
scientes | I was suprised that she did not know whot the uyghurs were, given that she lives close to them | Oct 06 19:48 |
XRevan86 | other minority languages comprise 135 861 people | Oct 06 19:48 |
scientes | an educated Georgian I talked to know of them | Oct 06 19:48 |
XRevan86 | 271 187 know Kyrgyzian as a second language | Oct 06 19:48 |
XRevan86 | If assuming all the other ones know Kyrgyzian, then we're left with 135 326 people | Oct 06 19:49 |
scientes | that's close enough | Oct 06 19:49 |
scientes | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/09/30/unusual-even-for-russia | Oct 06 19:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 06 19:50 | |
scientes | does Russia have a process to take children from parents? | Oct 06 19:50 |
XRevan86 | But that's a big assumption. | Oct 06 19:50 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Court can do that. | Oct 06 19:51 |
scientes | that can be used for class warfare | Oct 06 19:51 |
scientes | and Russia certainly has that | Oct 06 19:51 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I voted. | Oct 06 19:57 |
schestowitz | Go Greens! | Oct 06 19:57 |
scientes | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/09/22/russia-s-digital-development-ministry-wants-to-ban-the-latest-encryption-technologies-from-the-runet | Oct 06 19:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Oct 06 19:57 | |
schestowitz | Well done, Ryan | Oct 06 19:57 |
scientes | but what about stuff like this | Oct 06 19:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | Straight Democratic ticket, yes to the Illinois flat tax repeal, impeach the judges, and yes to all government consolidation. | Oct 06 19:58 |
scientes | oh, RuNet | Oct 06 19:58 |
scientes | yeah I actually had some professional contact with the developer of that extension to the IETF | Oct 06 19:58 |
scientes | Japaneese guy | Oct 06 19:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Illinois makes judges go up for a retention election. | Oct 06 19:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Voters essentially impeach and remove if any fail to get 60% in favor of remaining on the bench. | Oct 06 19:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | One of them that I voted no on ended up losing his office. | Oct 06 19:59 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m] voted… presidental elections are now? | Oct 06 19:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | In Cook County in 2016. | Oct 06 19:59 |
XRevan86 | or some other election? | Oct 06 20:00 |
schestowitz | XRevan86: by post | Oct 06 20:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | CPD tortured a confession and the judge allowed it. | Oct 06 20:00 |
schestowitz | [19:58] <scientes> Japaneese guy | Oct 06 20:00 |
schestowitz | Sounds like something a Japanese judge would do | Oct 06 20:00 |
schestowitz | they've always been good at torturing people | Oct 06 20:00 |
schestowitz | esp. foreign detainees | Oct 06 20:01 |
schestowitz | The Japanese aren't widely known for their elitism and cruelty, it's a marketing success for them | Oct 06 20:01 |
DaemonFC[m] | No, in person. | Oct 06 20:01 |
schestowitz | geisha and tech country... with cherry blossom | Oct 06 20:01 |
schestowitz | at least the 2020 Olympics punished them big time economically | Oct 06 20:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I gave up on the post office and just had them void that and let me vote in person. | Oct 06 20:02 |
schestowitz | karma for the great whales, I suppose | Oct 06 20:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | They agreed that 10 business days was an unreasonable amount of time. | Oct 06 20:02 |
schestowitz | speak to propublica | Oct 06 20:02 |
schestowitz | about usps | Oct 06 20:02 |
schestowitz | they do stories about those things and need leads | Oct 06 20:03 |
scientes | XRevan86, and here I was thinking that Russia is progressive because it has toleration for domestic abuse claims | Oct 06 20:03 |
scientes | but you just threw that theory out the window | Oct 06 20:03 |
schestowitz | like journalists | Oct 06 20:03 |
schestowitz | out the window | Oct 06 20:04 |
schestowitz | and now doctors | Oct 06 20:04 |
schestowitz | who speak about covid stuff | Oct 06 20:04 |
schestowitz | hey, how about tossing them out of windows with windows handles laced with Novichok? | Oct 06 20:04 |
schestowitz | [just in case they survive the fall] | Oct 06 20:04 |
MinceR | lol | Oct 06 20:04 |
schestowitz | *window handles | Oct 06 20:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | I mostly went to vote for Brad Schneider for House. | Oct 06 20:05 |
schestowitz | I don't trust Schneiders | Oct 06 20:05 |
schestowitz | they tend to be arrogant and pompous | Oct 06 20:05 |
XRevan86 | scientes: hm? | Oct 06 20:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | If Trump gets in again it's important that the Republicans don't pick up the House majority. | Oct 06 20:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | It can always get worse if they can go back to passing their legislation. | Oct 06 20:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Right now Trump is twisting the law out of shape and some of his own judges aren't having it. | Oct 06 20:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | So relying on the courts is not ideal, but if the actual laws change then we won't even have that. | Oct 06 20:07 |
schestowitz | https://patentlyo.com/patent/2013/04/dont-write-this-letter-to-the-patent-office.html | Oct 06 20:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Don’t Write This Letter to the Patent Office | Patently-O | Oct 06 20:09 | |
schestowitz | Andrew Schroeder | Oct 06 20:09 |
schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2013/05/20/andrew-schroeder-intimidation/ | Oct 06 20:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Andrew Y. Schroeder Shows That Patent Lawyers Are Sociopaths | Techrights | Oct 06 20:10 | |
schestowitz | https://ipethicslaw.com/uspto-suspends-attorney-for-six-months-for-derogatory-patent-filings/ | Oct 06 20:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipethicslaw.com | USPTO Suspends Attorney For Six Months For Derogatory Patent Filings - IPethics & INsights | Oct 06 20:10 | |
schestowitz | wow, I didn't know they did this | Oct 06 20:10 |
schestowitz | lost in the news at the time | Oct 06 20:11 |
schestowitz | 2013 | Oct 06 20:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | I live in a swing House district. | Oct 06 20:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | My vote for that is maybe worth something. | Oct 06 20:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's plausible that it gets into recount territory for the House seat here. | Oct 06 20:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mom doesn't live in a swing district. In fact, the Republicans did a really bad gerrymander. | Oct 06 20:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | They have 67% of the vote going to the Republican. That's a big waste. They could have probably lopped some off and diluted the district around the Chicago area. | Oct 06 20:17 |
scientes | XRevan86, if you have to ask that question you just don't fucking get it. All the mob violence goes away when the police stop stirring the pot. | Oct 06 20:19 |
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scientes | And the police in Russia were exempted from the change in the retirement age | Oct 06 20:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | The police here usually retire when their pension maxes out. | Oct 06 20:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | I voted eliminate the Recorder of Deeds for Lake County. | Oct 06 20:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was like why is her salary $247,000? | Oct 06 20:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | The president only makes $400,000 salary and that's the president. | Oct 06 20:42 |
scientes | schestowitz, well Korea has quite a few Christians, which was not very successful in Japan---I wonder what the Yakuza's approach to Christians is | Oct 06 20:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | Why do we have a person filing deeds and stuff in a county making $247,000 plus pension and government health insurance? | Oct 06 20:43 |
DaemonFC[m] | That is, in fact, $3 per year from each taxpayer over something we don't even need. | Oct 06 20:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Especially in the middle of this budget mess and the pandemic I think we really need to dig deeper than eliminating her job, but it's what they asked. So I voted to get rid of her. | Oct 06 20:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | I voted for the Progressive Tax because everyone in opposition to it are millionaires and billionaires who have been raising my fucking rent and grocery bills anyway. | Oct 06 20:45 |
scientes | schestowitz, nice patent rant | Oct 06 20:46 |
scientes | and that is actually a pretty cool invention | Oct 06 20:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a wealth tax. It also raises the corporate rate to 7.99. That's almost 1 percentage point higher than now, and it mostly hits big banks and stuff. | Oct 06 20:46 |
scientes | however it wouldn't work because the force of the water coming out is strong, and tripods have very little support area and lie on very loose soil | Oct 06 20:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Of cpurse I favor a wealth tax. I'm not rich. I'll never be rich. If anything, they'll barely even notice it. | Oct 06 20:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Ken Griffin spent $47 million opposing it. That's more than the tax increase would be for the rest of his life. | Oct 06 20:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | What's going on here? | Oct 06 20:48 |
scientes | > An explanatory note clarifies that the draft law refers to protocols that use the cryptographic algorithms and encryption methods TLS 1.3, ESNI, DNS over HTTPS, and DNS over TLS, which are “becoming increasingly common.” | Oct 06 20:48 |
scientes | none of those are cryptographic algorithms | Oct 06 20:48 |
MinceR | :> | Oct 06 20:48 |
scientes | XRevan86, there you go on your accuracy thing | Oct 06 20:49 |
XRevan86 | scientes: ECH is | Oct 06 20:50 |
scientes | that article doesn't mention a single cryptographic algorithm | Oct 06 20:51 |
XRevan86 | kind of | Oct 06 20:51 |
scientes | it doesn't mention ECH | Oct 06 20:51 |
scientes | (what is ECH?) | Oct 06 20:51 |
XRevan86 | scientes: Encrypted Client Hello | Oct 06 20:51 |
scientes | that's not a cryptographic algorithms | Oct 06 20:51 |
XRevan86 | scientes: It's a new name for ESNI | Oct 06 20:51 |
scientes | this is literally my job recently | Oct 06 20:51 |
scientes | and as I said, I had personal contact with that japanese guy wro wrote the ESNI spec to IETF | Oct 06 20:52 |
XRevan86 | it's a way to encrypt parts of TLS negotiation | Oct 06 20:52 |
scientes | *professional contact | Oct 06 20:52 |
scientes | yeah, but nothing in that article talked about cryptographic algorithms | Oct 06 20:52 |
XRevan86 | "O.K., but you can't encrypt parts of TLS" – isn't that just a bit like banning cryptography | Oct 06 20:53 |
scientes | as they have absolutely no interest in cryptographic algorithms | Oct 06 20:53 |
scientes | or in banning cryptography | Oct 06 20:53 |
XRevan86 | Cryptography isn't banned, you just can't use it for certain things. | Oct 06 20:53 |
XRevan86 | it's an important distinction | Oct 06 20:54 |
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XRevan86 | scientes: So I get that you say that their terminology is flawed, but the issue they're covering is real at least. | Oct 06 21:10 |
XRevan86 | Meanwhile, Orlov talked about military poisons like he's an expert. | Oct 06 21:11 |
XRevan86 | while contradicting what the actual experts are saying | Oct 06 21:14 |
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scientes | psydroid, I was talking to you about how the beat of the heart---systolic/diastolic is immitated in pop music, sometimes with beat displacement---when I tried to find that in classical music I couldn't | Oct 06 21:20 |
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XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/qtCJ9L7fIhs especially here | Oct 06 21:24 |
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Ariadne | looks like viera is a lot more stable in new DC | Oct 06 21:27 |
scientes | XRevan86, actually not really | Oct 06 21:28 |
XRevan86 | scientes: I know, just kidding :) | Oct 06 21:29 |
XRevan86 | can't get more heart-beaty than that though | Oct 06 21:29 |
scientes | its actually off | Oct 06 21:29 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2_uxjALgdE | Oct 06 21:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-REAL HEART BEAT from 86 BPM to 274 BPM - might be disgusting ! - YouTube | Oct 06 21:29 | |
scientes | generally its 1/16th beat displacement | Oct 06 21:30 |
scientes | forward displacement | Oct 06 21:30 |
scientes | so that 1/4 forward of where it is suppose to be, if they are quarter notes | Oct 06 21:30 |
XRevan86 | A pump sounds like a pump, how weird. | Oct 06 21:31 |
scientes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVk4vENObiI | Oct 06 21:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Enrique Iglesias - Heartbeat (Official Music Video) ft. Nicole Scherzinger - YouTube | Oct 06 21:32 | |
scientes | that is not beat displacement, because it is even more explicit | Oct 06 21:32 |
XRevan86 | The tune is not bad | Oct 06 21:34 |
XRevan86 | Junior's not that good a singer though. | Oct 06 21:34 |
schestowitz | Ariadne: the hypervisor turns 2 just about now | Oct 06 21:42 |
schestowitz | (since you set it up) | Oct 06 21:42 |
schestowitz | I cannot remember any hv or network uptime/availability issues since | Oct 06 21:42 |
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chaekyung | best techrights articles on Software Freedom Conservancy? I did try searching already | Oct 06 22:50 |
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