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| MinceR | (cat) https://pleated-jeans.com/2022/04/26/stan-the-cat-crashes-zoom-court-and-gets-entered-into-an-official-trial-record/ | May 07 00:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleated-jeans.com | Stan The Cat Is On The Record After Crashing A Zoom Trial Hearing — A Thread | May 07 00:46 | |
| matey | "can you read that past statement back please?" | May 07 00:51 |
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| matey | "yes your honour, the defendent said, 'i had entered the AKAF;;af'fafafjafFjfajhgfr;gajfaa'a;a;;a;a;;;a;a;;a;; sorry, that was my cat'" | May 07 00:52 |
| MinceR | :D | May 07 00:52 |
| matey | my question is, if he keeps doing that, would the cat be held in contempt? | May 07 00:53 |
| MinceR | would the cat care? | May 07 00:53 |
| MinceR | also, it's video chat so they probably don't type into the chat at all | May 07 00:53 |
| matey | would he have to spend weeks in a kennel, or would they just give him a little bracelet and put him on house arrest? | May 07 00:53 |
| MinceR | lol | May 07 00:53 |
| matey | so they probably don't type into the chat at all <- one time there were two cats doing SOMETHING (they knew what they were doing) outside my window | May 07 00:54 |
| matey | it was loud as... i mean, it was (literally) loud as fuck | May 07 00:54 |
| MinceR | :> | May 07 00:54 |
| matey | they dont need keyboard access to be disruptive | May 07 00:55 |
| matey | also cats are louder than (most) people when they do that | May 07 00:55 |
| matey | its not like the window was open either. single pane though | May 07 00:55 |
| matey | /me screen showing face of man via camera | May 07 00:58 |
| matey | "all rise" | May 07 00:58 |
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| matey | /me screen showing closeup of button shirt on man via camera | May 07 00:59 |
| MinceR | just angle the camera down | May 07 00:59 |
| matey | if its just for a parking ticket, sure | May 07 00:59 |
| matey | or a speeding ticket | May 07 01:00 |
| matey | angle the camera down <- oh to simulate standing, lol | May 07 01:00 |
| MinceR | yes | May 07 01:01 |
| matey | i think youre exempt if youre in a wheelchir too | May 07 01:01 |
| matey | "all rise... more or less" | May 07 01:01 |
| matey | itd be great if he looked over at the guy in a wheelchair and he shrugged at the judge | May 07 01:02 |
| matey | and then theres the guy who wont get up because hes got a cat sleeping in his lap, and the cat isnt declawed | May 07 01:04 |
| matey | so whatever they decide to do about that, it still beats getting up | May 07 01:05 |
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| barto | hi everyone | May 07 01:21 |
| bnchs | hey uplink import | May 07 01:21 |
| matey | hi barto | May 07 01:27 |
| bnchs | gn | May 07 01:31 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 06, 2022 | May 07 02:39 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Friday, May 06, 2022 | May 07 02:40 | |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Friday, May 06, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | May 07 05:12 |
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| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | May 07 05:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | May 07 05:12 | |
| techrights-news | Kids should not have such spying, preying devices https://www.maketecheasier.com/deal/fire-7-kids-edition-tablet/ | May 07 05:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Get a Fire 7 Kids Pro Tablet for Under $50 - Make Tech Easier | May 07 05:16 | |
| techrights-news | Cathode Ray Tubes: Unusual Ways They Were Used Beyond TV Sets ⚓ https://tedium.co/2022/05/06/cathode-ray-tubes-obscure-uses/ ䷉ Source: tedium | May 07 05:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tedium.co | Cathode Ray Tubes: Unusual Ways They Were Used Beyond TV Sets | May 07 05:17 | |
| techrights-news | Writing "Hello, world!" from scratch part I: making a new ISA gemini://bobignou.red/posts/Writing-Hello-world-from-scratch-part-I-making-a-new-ISA.gmi | May 07 05:19 |
| techrights-news | "I have 10GB data on Google servers and I chose to export in tgz format (and unzip with the command 'tar xvf takeout-001.tgx')." gemini://gmi.noulin.net/2022-01-29-google-takeout.gmi | May 07 05:21 |
| techrights-news | #HowTo Install GoLang (Go Programming Language) in Ubuntu [5 Steps] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164561 | May 07 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install GoLang (Go Programming Language) in Ubuntu [5 Steps] | Tux Machines | May 07 05:23 | |
| techrights-news | "The UPC and the EPC are sinking ships" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Deepening social tensions and an 'extremely hostile' president at the EPO - Kluwer Patent Blog | May 07 05:29 | |
| techrights-news | "The members of the AC are egged on by the lobby power of the EPO’s bulk users, multi-national corporations who demand ever larger piles of granted patents at ever reduced cost, with “quality” being of no interest to them whatsoever." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:31 |
| techrights-news | "likely explanation of events is that EPO’s senior management, together with select members of the AC, have formed a self-serving clique that engages in mutual back-scratching in order to achieve the objective of sharing out (to the members of the clique) as much as possible of the “profits” of the Organisation." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo | May 07 05:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Deepening social tensions and an 'extremely hostile' president at the EPO - Kluwer Patent Blog | May 07 05:32 | |
| techrights-news | "The AC has degraded itself to a rubber stamping authority which nods off everything that is proposed by the head of office. One wonders why? I take bets that the present tenant of the 10th floor will get is contract extended at the next AC meeting." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:32 |
| techrights-news | "I do not think that the head of the EPO is in an impossible position. He has chosen his side, and what interests him is to make savings at any costs, even at the cost of ill-treating the EPC and EPO’s staff." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:33 |
| techrights-news | "During the OP in G 1/21, the president’s representatives insisted heavily on the fact that the EPC can be revised by secondary legislation. What a strange way of insuring the rule of law! If the EBA and the AC had a minimum of spine, they would have opposed all those projects and changes." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:33 |
| techrights-news | "This is the core of the problem and without a deep thinking about the future of the EPO and its role in Europe, the future looks bleak. In this respect a conference pursuant Art 4a is badly needed." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:34 |
| techrights-news | "The apparent aim of the actual tenant of the 10th floor is to churn out as many patents as possible as it brings renewal fees, push the BA into an intensive production (re-appointment) and let eventually the UPC decide on the fate of the patents." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:34 |
| techrights-news | "At the UPC this is fundamentally different... In this respect, I can agree with you that he clearly helps bulk users, i.e. “multi-national corporations who demand ever larger piles of granted patents at ever reduced cost, with “quality” being of no interest to them whatsoever”." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:35 |
| techrights-news | "Just as the EPO President “wags” the Council, the Council delegates will “wag” their ministers. EPO staff – as always – will be excluded from the discourse (with the exception of a chosen few in the upper circle of “cronies”)." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:36 |
| techrights-news | "One problem of the EPO is that we have too many chiefs. Every new president brings an entourage which stays even after the president has already left. Did someone mention the late PD Human Resources? All these “chiefs” have no purpose. However, to justify their existence, they create projects and projects of questionable value." | May 07 05:36 |
| techrights-news | "Why should the EPO wish to adopt a Trump-like attitude of never admitting to failures or weaknesses, even when those are plain for all to see? Does this mean that the EPO’s senior echelons are staffed with thin-skinned narcissists who are incapable of receiving even constructive criticism?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:37 |
| techrights-news | "Perhaps a more pertinent question is whether the EPO’s senior management really believe that their propaganda fools anyone, and whether they have any idea of quite how many of us feel insulted by it." http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:37 |
| techrights-news | "I have to agree with Experienced Examiner that the EPO is more and more resembling a Mexican army with lots of generals with doubtful attributions, other than being a president’s crony. The standard joke when a new director/principal director is appointed: does he come from the Iberian peninsula and/or does he have some connection with the tenant of the 10th floor?" | May 07 05:38 |
| techrights-news | "What all those people are good at, is to publish very verbose documents full of buzzing management jargon, alas without any tangible content. The AC seems very receptive for all those Potemkin’s villages. Those people decide how the job should be carried out, but have not the faintest idea of what it entails." | May 07 05:38 |
| techrights-news | "Have you ever heard a peep from epi when the boards were moved to Haar in order to “increase the perception of their independence”? Or now, when the boards are meant to be repatriated to Munich? Those two moves have cost and will cost the users of the EPO millions in €. All clients of epi members!" | May 07 05:39 |
| techrights-news | "BusinessEurope is the association of large corporations writing the new examination rules, who controls SACEPO, where corporate members are appointed by Campinos. Where are SMEs in all this?" http://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2022/05/03/deepening-social-tensions-and-an-extremely-hostile-president-at-the-epo/#comments | May 07 05:40 |
| techrights-news | "It is not for epi to decide who is on the list of qualified representatives, but for the Legal Division. It is thus not possible to render epi responsible for the presence of a former VP on the list. If the Legal Division has admitted this former VP as qualified representative, for whatever reason, the epi has to accept him." | May 07 05:41 |
| techrights-news | "In the end, it is immaterial who writes to the AC. The AC will simply ignore it, secure in the comfort of its bubble of immunity/impunity. Indeed it is very true that where there is a will, there is a way. However, in the case of the EPO, it is doubtful as to where there is any will …" | May 07 05:41 |
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| techrights-news | Conde Nast (of Reddit etc.): we not only employ pedophiles who shill for Microsoft (and get arrested for raping kids), for a whole decade. We also do white-washing for billionaires who are Jeffrey Epstein enablers. I suppose Reddit and Ars have no qualms about promoting paedophiles while censoring those who speak on the subject. | May 07 05:59 |
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| techrights-news | Based on Statcounter, Edge market share fell every month this year. Microsoft Edge, Jan to May: 4.12, 4.06, 4.05, 4.05, and 4.04% | May 07 07:36 |
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| techrights-news | "The saga of the IPv6 transition continues to surprise us all." ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/04/the-transition-to-ipv6-are-we-there-yet/ | Source: APNIC | May 07 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.apnic.net | The transition to IPv6: Are we there yet? | APNIC Blog | May 07 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "Key exchange is a mechanism where two parties (Alice and Bob) can agree on the same number" ☛ https://x25519.ulfheim.net/ | Source: X25519 Key Exchange | May 07 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-x25519.ulfheim.net | Hands-on: X25519 Key Exchange | May 07 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "One of the most exciting aspects of this system are the satellites surrounding Earth." ☛ https://ciechanow.ski/gps/ | Source: Bartosz Ciechanowski | May 07 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ciechanow.ski | GPS – Bartosz Ciechanowski | May 07 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "This is all wonderful but as already hinted in the introduction getting Shazam to work on Linux is more of a workaround." ☛ https://www.techzim.co.zw/2021/08/mousai-is-an-awesome-music-identification-app-for-linux/ | Source: Zimbabwe | May 07 07:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techzim.co.zw | Mousai is an awesome music identification app for Linux - Techzim | May 07 07:54 | |
| techrights-news | "cookie consent window" ☛ https://uxdesign.cc/unethical-design-of-cookie-consent-windows-857ef68f1bd6?gi=71579739af58 | Source: UXCollective | May 07 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uxdesign.cc | It's time we fix the unethical design of cookie consent windows | Nicat Manafov | Medium | UX Collective | May 07 07:55 | |
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| techrights-news | "I've got into a situation with PG I've never been into before." ☛ https://solovyov.net/blog/2022/postgresql-collation/ | Source: Alexander Solovyov | May 07 07:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solovyov.net | PostgreSQL collation | May 07 07:57 | |
| techrights-news | "There are only a few apps I use every day and shell — ZSH — is one of the most used." ☛ https://solovyov.net/blog/2020/useful-shell-prompt/ | Source: Alexander Solovyov | May 07 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-solovyov.net | Useful shell prompt | May 07 07:58 | |
| techrights-news | "Ahmadreza Djalali was arrested and charged with espionage during an invited visit to the University of Tehran in 2016." ☛ https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/iran-threatens-academics-execution-thwart-war-crimes-trial | Source: Times Higher Education | May 07 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Iran threatens Ahmadreza Djalali execution | Times Higher Education (THE) | May 07 07:58 | |
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| techrights-news | I deleted Windows! And switched to Fedora gemini://akselmo.dev/posts/blog-2022-05-06-I-deleted-Windows-and-switched-to-Fedora.gmi | May 07 07:59 |
| techrights-news | This week in KDE: New features and many bugfixes for Plasma 5.25 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164562 | May 07 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: New features and many bugfixes for Plasma 5.25 | Tux Machines | May 07 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | 7 Best Free and Open Source Python Object-Relational Mapping Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164563 | May 07 08:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 7 Best Free and Open Source Python Object-Relational Mapping Software | Tux Machines | May 07 08:06 | |
| techrights-news | Fedora Linux to Keep Legacy BIOS Support, For Now • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164564 | May 07 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Linux to Keep Legacy BIOS Support, For Now | Tux Machines | May 07 08:07 | |
| techrights-news | Well, Pro Publica taking BRIBES from Bill Gates is a threat to democracy. Why take money from criminals? ☛ https://www.propublica.org/getinvolved/help-propublica-investigate-threats-to-u-s-democracy | Source: Pro Publica | May 07 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Help ProPublica Investigate Threats to U.S. Democracy — ProPublica | May 07 08:15 | |
| techrights-news | Ewww... Rust ☛ https://blog.torproject.org/arti_030_released/ | Source: Tor | May 07 08:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.torproject.org | Arti 0.3.0 is released: Robustness and API improvements | The Tor Project | May 07 08:16 | |
| techrights-news | Ukraine ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/toward-a-peoples-ukraine-wars-tribunal/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Toward a Peoples Ukraine Wars Tribunal - CounterPunch.org | May 07 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164565 | May 07 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 07 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part III • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164566 | May 07 08:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Builder GTK 4 Porting, Part III | Tux Machines | May 07 08:17 | |
| techrights-news | Radxa offers affordable Rock Pi 4 C+ equipped with Rockchip RK3399-T processor • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164567 | May 07 08:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Radxa offers affordable Rock Pi 4 C+ equipped with Rockchip RK3399-T processor | Tux Machines | May 07 08:23 | |
| ciphrCat | I found the site where the guy handles data breaches (databreaches dot net). But the site is CFd so I won’t use them. | May 07 08:26 |
| techrights-news | Fascism ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/242277/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fascism is Intentional - CounterPunch.org | May 07 08:26 | |
| schestowitz | yes, AdmFubar uses that site a lot, ciphrCat | May 07 08:26 |
| techrights-news | "Tired of Being Worked to Death" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/tired-of-being-worked-to-death-labor-strikes-back/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 08:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tired of Being Worked to Death, Labor Strikes Back - CounterPunch.org | May 07 08:27 | |
| techrights-news | The Economist (run by Rothschild) and Indian media now do reputation laundering from a serial criminal, Bill Gates. They should be blasted for this. WHAT ARE THEY DEFENDING??? | May 07 08:29 |
| techrights-news | Bill Gates-bribed media missing OpenDocument Format :( https://www.pcworld.com/article/698762/eve-onlines-spreadsheets-in-space-sim-adds-excel-partnership.html https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/6/23059064/eve-online-fanfest-microsoft-excel | May 07 08:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EVE Online's 'spreadsheets in space' are getting official Excel love | PCWorld | May 07 08:30 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Sci-fi virtual world EVE Online is getting Microsoft Excel support - The Verge | May 07 08:30 | |
| techrights-news | 2-factor surveillance https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/05/1346259 | May 07 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | GitHub to Require Two Factor Authentication for Code Contributors by Late 2023 - SoylentNews | May 07 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | The Facebook Papers: the Algorithms That Control Your News Feed - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/05/1257227 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | May 07 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | The Facebook Papers: the Algorithms That Control Your News Feed - SoylentNews | May 07 08:31 | |
| techrights-news | Attackers Use Event Logs to Hide Fileless Malware - SoylentNews ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/05/05/042214 ䷉ Source: soylentnews | May 07 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Attackers Use Event Logs to Hide Fileless Malware - SoylentNews | May 07 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | Amazon or SweatshopZone? ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/amazon-fires-managers-recently-unionized-warehouse | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Amazon Fires Managers at Recently Unionized Warehouse | May 07 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | The real Amazon ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/green-groups-blame-bolsonaro-policies-amazon-deforestation-sets-new-monthly-record | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Green Groups Blame Bolsonaro Policies as Amazon Deforestation Sets New Monthly Record | May 07 08:32 | |
| techrights-news | "Campaigners within and beyond the Philippines on Friday applauded a new government report that backs accountability for major polluters" ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/landmark-inquiry-philippines-backs-accountability-climate-polluting-corporations | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 08:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Landmark Inquiry in Philippines Backs Accountability for 'Climate-Polluting' Corporations | May 07 08:33 | |
| techrights-news | My boycott of BBC is no longer partial but complete. First they covered up for Savile and they're doing it all over again with Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates... while PROFITING from it. | May 07 08:34 |
| techrights-news | We saw him at the track a few days ago. He mingles with everyone. What a humble, smart man. https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/newcastle-matchday-live-preview-nedum-onuoha-63787443 | May 07 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mancity.com | Onuoha: Premier League title still in our hands | May 07 08:36 | |
| techrights-news | Mariana Ziku ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/06/episode-28-open-culture-voices-mariana-ziku/ | Source: Creative Commons | May 07 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Episode 28: Open Culture VOICES – Mariana Ziku - Creative Commons | May 07 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | Simon Tanner ☛ https://creativecommons.org/2022/05/06/episode-27-open-culture-voices-simon-tanner/ | Source: Creative Commons | May 07 08:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-creativecommons.org | Episode 27: Open Culture VOICES – Simon Tanner - Creative Commons | May 07 08:39 | |
| techrights-news | "The U.S. Copyright Office has launched a public consultation to evaluate whether it's wise to make certain technical protection measures mandatory under the DMCA." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-copyright-office-seeks-input-on-mandatory-dmca-upload-filters-220506/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 07 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. Copyright Office Seeks Input on Mandatory DMCA "Upload Filters" * TorrentFreak | May 07 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | "Major entertainment industry groups representing film studios, record labels, videogame developers and publishers have signed a deal with internet service providers in Sweden" ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/movie-music-gaming-publishing-groups-join-isps-in-deal-to-block-piracy-220506/ | Source: Torrent Freak | May 07 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Movie, Music, Gaming & Publishing Groups Join ISPs in Deal to Block Piracy * TorrentFreak | May 07 08:40 | |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164568 | May 07 08:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 07 08:40 | |
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| techrights-news | Arti 0.3.0 is released: Robustness and API improvements • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164569 | May 07 08:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arti 0.3.0 is released: Robustness and API improvements | Tux Machines | May 07 08:55 | |
| ciphrCat | i need an mbox to LaTeX converter, because sometimes I have to distribute an email history in a readible pretty-printed format. And it looks like I have to create it. | May 07 08:56 |
| matey | cool idea though | May 07 08:57 |
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| techrights-news | "Politics, Then Country" ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/supreme-court-politics-then-country/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 09:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court: Politics, Then Country - CounterPunch.org | May 07 09:29 | |
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| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D581.jpg | May 07 09:52 |
| techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D224.jpg | May 07 09:52 |
| techrights-news | "I think I link being miserable, bitter and cynical to being a good person, which is not healthy" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 07 09:54 |
| techrights-news | "upper-middle-class work is insane. you have finance (get paid to play the slots and steal from people), consulting (get paid to take the blame for other people's problems) and big tech (manifest the absolute worst ideas anyone has come up with)." gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmi | May 07 09:54 |
| techrights-news | "On Tuesday I lost all hearing in my left ear over the course of three hours. I had that otherwise common, ephemeral tinnitus that one sometimes experiences for 3-4 seconds. I had an unusual number of bouts, and they started lasting progressively longer. Then hearing just never returned." gemini://midnight.pub/posts/928 | May 07 09:56 |
| techrights-news | "For a while, the Transjovian Council hosted a copy of the Gemini Mailing List Archive. This is no longer the case, unfortunately." gemini://transjovian.org/page/2022-01-01%20Gemini%20Mailing%20List%20Archive | May 07 09:59 |
| techrights-news | "Prosecutors have an obligation to turn over evidence — exculpatory or otherwise — to criminal defendants." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/court-dismisses-case-after-prosecutors-make-it-impossible-for-defendants-to-access-evidence/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Court Dismisses Case After Prosecutors Make It Impossible For Defendants To Access Evidence | Techdirt | May 07 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | "gaming" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/the-stick-to-sports-crowd-is-now-coming-after-gaming-companies/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The ‘Stick To Sports’ Crowd Is Now Coming After Gaming Companies | Techdirt | May 07 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | Disney ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/disney-is-still-trying-to-avoid-paying-its-writers/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Disney Is Still Trying To Avoid Paying Its Writers | Techdirt | May 07 10:06 | |
| techrights-news | Rotting economy, with declining salaries and massive inflation ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/labor-force-participation-continues-toward-pre-pandemic-levels/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 10:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Labor Force Participation Continues Toward Pre-Pandemic Levels | May 07 10:07 | |
| techrights-news | Alliance of the corrupt ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/trump-encouraged-elon-musk-to-buy-twitter-truth-social-ceo-devin-nunes-says/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 10:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump Encouraged Elon Musk to Buy Twitter, Truth Social CEO Devin Nunes Says | May 07 10:07 | |
| techrights-news | Unions ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/the-house-will-vote-next-week-on-allowing-its-staffers-to-unionize/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | The House Will Vote Next Week on Allowing Its Staffers to Unionize | May 07 10:08 | |
| techrights-news | Book Banning on the Rise in the US ☛ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ | Source: Project Censored | May 07 10:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://www.projectcensored.org/book-banning-on-the-rise-in-the-us/ ) | May 07 10:09 | |
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| techrights-news | "telecom and media giants are engaged in a last ditch attempt over the next few weeks to derail Biden’s nomination" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/fraternal-order-of-police-helps-boost-telecom-smear-campaign-against-fcc-nominee-gigi-sohn/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 11:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fraternal Order Of Police Helps Boost Telecom Smear Campaign Against FCC Nominee Gigi Sohn | Techdirt | May 07 11:28 | |
| techrights-news | "The justice system loves a stacked deck. Well, certainly the prosecutorial side loves it. Courts are, at best, ambivalent." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/05/judge-clemency-board-with-three-cops-on-it-doesnt-violate-rule-against-more-than-two-people-from-same-profession/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 11:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Judge: Clemency Board With Three Cops On It Doesn’t Violate Rule Against More Than Two People From Same Profession | Techdirt | May 07 11:29 | |
| techrights-news | "The party has so far made a net gain of 75, gaining seats from Labour and Conservatives in areas as far ranging as Burnley, Hastings, Hackne" ☛ https://www.greenparty.org.uk/ | Source: Green Party UK | May 07 11:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-vote.greenparty.org.uk | Green Party | Fighting for Climate Action. If not now, when? | May 07 11:33 | |
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| techrights-news | FCC ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/dems-accused-caving-rabid-telecom-industry-smear-campaign-against-fcc-nominee | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 12:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Dems Accused of Caving to 'Rabid' Telecom Industry Smear Campaign Against FCC Nominee | May 07 12:55 | |
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| techrights-news | Patents continue to kill millions and Biden does nothing ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/05/06/biden-broke-his-promise-support-generic-covid-19-vaccines-world | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Biden Broke His Promise to Support Generic Covid-19 Vaccines for the World | Sarah Lazare | May 07 13:06 | |
| techrights-news | "Fire season is upon us. There’s no off-season anymore. 24/7 takes on paradoxically darker and brighter—and ever hotter—connotations." ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/242388/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 13:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Handel on Fire - CounterPunch.org | May 07 13:11 | |
| techrights-news | "The corporation must give it back by sharing the tech with others and make this vaccine available to everyone, everywhere." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/while-hoarding-vaccine-recipe-moderna-got-another-300-million-us-taxpayers | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | While Hoarding Vaccine Recipe, Moderna Got Another $300 Million From US Taxpayers | May 07 13:17 | |
| techrights-news | "On May 10, Daniel’s support team is hosting an online meeting for supporters to write letters together to Hale in prison" ☛ https://couragefound.org/2022/05/daniel-hale-is-courages-newest-beneficiary/ | Source: Courage Found | May 07 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couragefound.org | Daniel Hale is Courage’s newest beneficiary | Courage Foundation | May 07 13:17 | |
| techrights-news | Daniel Hale ☛ https://couragefound.org/2022/05/one-year-in-a-cage-letter-writing-night-for-daniel-hale-may-10/ | Source: Courage Found | May 07 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-couragefound.org | One Year in a Cage: Letter Writing Night for Daniel Hale, May 10 | Courage Foundation | May 07 13:18 | |
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| techrights-news | Illinois ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/illinois-cops-are-hitting-students-with-hefty-fines-for-breaking-school-rules/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 13:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Illinois Cops Are Hitting Students With Hefty Fines For Breaking School Rules | Techdirt | May 07 13:57 | |
| techrights-news | Twitter ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/05/06/missouri-and-louisiana-sue-biden-administration-because-twitter-blocked-hunter-biden-link-before-biden-was-president/ | Source: Techdirt | May 07 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missouri And Louisiana Sue Biden Administration Because Twitter Blocked Hunter Biden Link Before Biden Was President | Techdirt | May 07 13:58 | |
| techrights-news | Starbucks ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/cry-more-starbucks-mocked-complaining-about-workers-white-house-visit | Source: Common Dreams | May 07 13:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Cry More': Starbucks Mocked for Complaining About Workers' White House Visit | May 07 13:58 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/05/06/the-border-industrial-complex-in-the-biden-era-robotic-dogs-and-autonomous-surveillance-towers-are-the-new-wall/ | Source: Counter Punch | May 07 13:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Border-Industrial Complex in the Biden Era: Robotic Dogs and Autonomous Surveillance Towers Are the New Wall - CounterPunch.org | May 07 13:59 | |
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| techrights-news | Elliot Williams et al ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/06/hackaday-podcast-167-deadly-art-projects-robot-lock-pickers-led-horticulture-and-good-samaritan-repairs/ | Source: Hackaday | May 07 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Podcast 167: Deadly Art Projects, Robot Lock Pickers, LED Horticulture, And Good Samaritan Repairs | Hackaday | May 07 14:02 | |
| techrights-news | Sites like propublica, which take bribes from Bill Gates, have two reasons not to cover his crimes but to cover them up. 1) they might put at risk future money from the criminal. 2) by writing on the issue people might be led to point out the bribes, taking the scandal public So the bribes are hush money or PR money (BillPR/NPR and BillBC). | May 07 14:06 |
| techrights-news | Patents kill ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/moderna-got-another-300-million-from-us-taxpayers-while-hoarding-vaccine-recipe/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 14:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Moderna Got Another $300 Million From US Taxpayers While Hoarding Vaccine Recipe | May 07 14:08 | |
| techrights-news | EFF pandering to partisan issues ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/05/safegraphs-disingenuous-claims-about-location-data-mask-dangerous-industry | Source: EFF | May 07 14:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | SafeGraph’s Disingenuous Claims About Location Data Mask a Dangerous Industry | Electronic Frontier Foundation | May 07 14:09 | |
| techrights-news | "Watching television today is a very different experience from that which our parents would have had at our age" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/06/retrotechtacular-how-television-worked-in-the-1950s/ | Source: Hackaday | May 07 14:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Retrotechtacular: How Television Worked In The 1950s | Hackaday | May 07 14:11 | |
| techrights-news | "On paper, chording — that’s pressing multiple keys to create either a single character or a whole word" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/06/pico-chording-keyboard-is-simultaneously-vintage-and-new/ | Source: Hackaday | May 07 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pico Chording Keyboard Is Simultaneously Vintage And New | Hackaday | May 07 14:12 | |
| techrights-news | ElectriPop ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/06/electripop-turns-cut-mylar-into-custom-3d-structures/ | Source: Hackaday | May 07 14:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ElectriPop Turns Cut Mylar Into Custom 3D Structures | Hackaday | May 07 14:12 | |
| techrights-news | Patent monopolies ☛ https://truthout.org/video/vaccine-inequity-prolongs-pandemic-as-worldwide-death-toll-tops-15-million/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Vaccine Inequity Prolongs Pandemic as Worldwide Death Toll Tops 15 Million | May 07 14:13 | |
| techrights-news | "Parental Rights" ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/far-right-parental-rights-groups-want-to-eliminate-the-department-of-education/ | Source: TruthOut | May 07 14:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | "Parental Rights" Groups Want to Eliminate the Department of Education | May 07 14:13 | |
| techrights-news | MinceR is governmed by 'Zucks'... "Hungarian embassy in Kyiv took to Facebook" ☛ https://insighthungary.444.hu/2022/05/06/secretary-of-national-security-and-defense-council-of-ukraine-hungary-was-warned-about-putins-plans-to-attack-ukraine | Source: Hungary | May 07 14:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insighthungary.444.hu | Secretary of National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine: Hungary was warned about Putin's plans to attack Ukraine - InsightHungary | May 07 14:14 | |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 06, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/05/07/irc-log-060522/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/05/07/irc-log-060522/ | May 07 14:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Friday, May 06, 2022 | Techrights | May 07 14:16 | |
| techrights-news | "The bane of life for anyone who possesses a well-used pile of spanners is the humble nut and bolt." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/05/06/screwed-up-can-technology-be-a-substitute-for-regular-maintenance/ | Source: Hackaday | May 07 14:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Screwed Up: Can Technology Be A Substitute For Regular Maintenance | Hackaday | May 07 14:18 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft Windows TCO ☛ https://threatpost.com/attackers-use-event-logs-to-hide-fileless-malware/179484/ | Source: Threat Post | May 07 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Attackers Use Event Logs to Hide Malware | Threatpost | May 07 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | "ransomware group believed to have strong ties within Russia said Wednesday" ☛ https://www.cyberscoop.com/lockbit-ransomware-attack-bulgarian-refugee-agency/ | Source: Scoop News Group | May 07 14:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Russian ransomware group claims attack on Bulgarian refugee agency - CyberScoop | May 07 14:22 | |
| techrights-news | My new project: Jeuxterm (online games in terminal) gemini://tilde.team/~aprilnightk/gemlog/2022/05/07-jeuxterm.gmi | May 07 14:22 |
| techrights-news | Biblical gemini? gemini://idiomdrottning.org/homeless-god | May 07 14:23 |
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| bnchs | yay fortnite is now on xbox cloud... | May 07 14:51 |
| bnchs | tim sweeney totally not biased towards microsoft | May 07 14:51 |
| MinceR | lol | May 07 14:53 |
| bnchs | https://yewtu.be/llvh33y_-vQ?t=77 | May 07 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Nvidia LIED. - Invidious | May 07 14:54 | |
| bnchs | also next to the fortnite shit is passwordless login | May 07 14:56 |
| bnchs | involving applel, gulag, and microsoft | May 07 14:56 |
| bnchs | "would push a request to your phone" | May 07 14:57 |
| bnchs | holy fucking shit that is SO GOOD!!! | May 07 14:58 |
| bnchs | it would not impact people who don't have phones, right? | May 07 14:58 |
| bnchs | nor would like to use the non-free clients | May 07 14:58 |
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| matey | nor would like to use the non-free clients <- fortnite is free software? | May 07 15:08 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/29/bofh_2022_episode_8/ | May 07 15:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | BOFH: What's that sucking up our UPS capacity? • The Register | May 07 15:14 | |
| bnchs | matey: that was about passwordless login | May 07 15:14 |
| bnchs | fortnite is non-free | May 07 15:15 |
| bnchs | so is it's engine | May 07 15:15 |
| bnchs | (which has a EULA, which forbids specific licenses such as GPL) | May 07 15:15 |
| matey | its a fucking shame (and a farce) when people use the gpl as a eula | May 07 15:24 |
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| matey | the terms of the gpl contradict such usage-- theyre about conveying, not use | May 07 15:25 |
| MinceR | how does that even work? GPL is explicitly not for end-users only | May 07 15:25 |
| matey | it doesnt, its a complete contradiction | May 07 15:25 |
| matey | you dont have to agree to the gpl to use the software | May 07 15:25 |
| bnchs | matey: true | May 07 15:26 |
| matey | compliance and non-compliance are triggered exclusively by distribution | May 07 15:26 |
| bnchs | you have to comply with the GPL only if you're distributing the program | May 07 15:26 |
| bnchs | not using it | May 07 15:26 |
| MinceR | 07 162548 < matey> you dont have to agree to the gpl to use the software | May 07 15:27 |
| matey | asking someone to click agree to the gpl is like asking a pedestrian to turn off their foglights | May 07 15:27 |
| MinceR | you do need to accept the license terms to use the software | May 07 15:27 |
| MinceR | otherwise you have no license to use it | May 07 15:27 |
| bnchs | "This means, for example, that you may not combine the Licensed Technology with code or content that is licensed under any of the following licenses: GNU General Public License (GPL), Lesser GPL (LGPL) (unless you are merely dynamically linking a shared library), or Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License." | May 07 15:27 |
| MinceR | and so copyright law forbids you from dealing in it | May 07 15:27 |
| bnchs | "You may not, and may not permit others to, combine, Distribute, or otherwise use the Licensed Technology with any code or other content which is covered by a license that would directly or indirectly require that all or part of the Licensed Technology be governed under any terms other than those of this Agreement (those licenses, the “Non-Compatible Licenses”). " | May 07 15:27 |
| bnchs | - unreal engine EULA | May 07 15:27 |
| bnchs | remember that CC BY-SA is in the list aswell | May 07 15:28 |
| MinceR | unreal engine has a business model that doesn't work with free software | May 07 15:28 |
| matey | you do need to accept the license terms to use the software <- there are no usage requirements within the gpl to accept. | May 07 15:28 |
| bnchs | MinceR, true | May 07 15:28 |
| MinceR | there are plenty of free engines one may use instead | May 07 15:29 |
| bnchs | you have accept their EULA to get access to the source code | May 07 15:29 |
| bnchs | and their EULA specifically forbids using code or content that's licensed under GPL or LGPL or CC BY SA | May 07 15:29 |
| matey | thats probably not enforceable | May 07 15:29 |
| matey | lets say that i write gpl code or content that works with fortnite | May 07 15:30 |
| matey | fortnite has no way of knowing the license terms of what im using | May 07 15:30 |
| matey | lets say im distributing code or content that works with fortnight | May 07 15:31 |
| matey | the eula has no jurisdiction over that, it only applies when im using the program | May 07 15:31 |
| bnchs | <matey> lets say that i write gpl code or content that works with fortnite | May 07 15:31 |
| bnchs | you can't combine that with the engine itself | May 07 15:31 |
| matey | i mean you might as well have a eula that forbids you from buying a mac. | May 07 15:32 |
| bnchs | this only applies to the engine IIRC | May 07 15:32 |
| bnchs | not the game | May 07 15:32 |
| matey | how do you enforce that? | May 07 15:32 |
| bnchs | well i don't think they can | May 07 15:32 |
| matey | so its moot | May 07 15:32 |
| matey | terms that cant be enforced dont exist | May 07 15:33 |
| matey | now i dont doubt there are exceptions where some part of something can be enforced maybe | May 07 15:33 |
| matey | on the whole id say its moot, with possible minor exceptions | May 07 15:33 |
| matey | its one of those things some legal person thought was clever to put in there | May 07 15:33 |
| matey | theres no law saying you cant put fud in a eula | May 07 15:33 |
| matey | i think it mostly serves as propaganda | May 07 15:34 |
| matey | the wtfpl is also propaganda | May 07 15:34 |
| matey | its gpl compatible and at least a free software license, but i still tell people to avoid it because it contains fud and bullshit | May 07 15:34 |
| matey | i mean id never recommend using it | May 07 15:34 |
| bnchs | lol | May 07 15:35 |
| bnchs | they only made this EULA to add their shitty royality clause | May 07 15:35 |
| bnchs | royalty* | May 07 15:35 |
| matey | there you go | May 07 15:35 |
| bnchs | "You agree to pay Epic a royalty equal to 5% of all Royalty Revenue (as defined in the next section), regardless of whether that revenue is received by you or any other person or entity." | May 07 15:35 |
| matey | i wonder how enforceable that is | May 07 15:36 |
| matey | epic should rename themselves to epic arseholes | May 07 15:36 |
| matey | but thats sort of already known | May 07 15:36 |
| bnchs | they probably added the "non-compatible licenses" clause because the licenses would strip the royalty clause they added | May 07 15:36 |
| bnchs | for their greed | May 07 15:36 |
| matey | this is the first time i was aware that epic made fortnite, which probably says a lot about how much i track non-free software | May 07 15:37 |
| matey | and games in general | May 07 15:37 |
| matey | on the games front, im at least paying an increasing amount of attention to stuff that isnt github-based | May 07 15:37 |
| matey | which isnt much obviously | May 07 15:38 |
| bnchs | i see everything shilling unreal engine | May 07 15:38 |
| matey | i keep track (within weeks typically) of things added to the free software directory | May 07 15:38 |
| bnchs | and contributors actually thinking they're helping something by contributing to the source-available code | May 07 15:38 |
| matey | every month or two, they add half a dozen things that arent github-based | May 07 15:38 |
| matey | you read that correctly | May 07 15:38 |
| bnchs | rather than thinking they're helping epic maintain their iron fist on gamedevs | May 07 15:39 |
| matey | its probably easier to build a free cpu than it is to get gamers to give a shit about free software | May 07 15:39 |
| matey | i mean the latter does happen. and the former likely will happen | May 07 15:40 |
| matey | but the former probably wont take another 40 years, and the latter probably will | May 07 15:40 |
| matey | im aware of small groups of gamers (and obviously developers) that give a shit about free software | May 07 15:41 |
| matey | i mean there are a few here | May 07 15:41 |
| matey | im aware of others | May 07 15:41 |
| bnchs | modern gaming is bullshit nowadays | May 07 15:42 |
| matey | one thing thats difficult is that games really are a form of art and cultural expression (i mean some are at least) | May 07 15:42 |
| matey | and the fsf is stupid about that issue. | May 07 15:42 |
| matey | really incredibly stupid. | May 07 15:42 |
| bnchs | how much microtransactions, DLCs and other greedy shit a gamer can tolerate before they crack | May 07 15:42 |
| matey | all software should be free <- we dont care about art though | May 07 15:42 |
| matey | i dont mean assets. they think its about assets. | May 07 15:43 |
| matey | its not, its about the whole thing | May 07 15:43 |
| bnchs | matey: but they are reverse engineered game engines | May 07 15:43 |
| matey | if the assets in fortnite were under a free license, and the game was not, you couldnt simply "make fortnite" from them | May 07 15:43 |
| matey | but they are reverse engineered game engines <- ive used one | May 07 15:43 |
| bnchs | that are built to run games with non-free assets on it | May 07 15:43 |
| bnchs | like xash3D for goldsrc games | May 07 15:43 |
| matey | but the thing is | May 07 15:44 |
| matey | the fsf is stupid about non-software works. in a way that costs them a whole category of software | May 07 15:44 |
| bnchs | the fsf should care about software | May 07 15:44 |
| bnchs | not assets | May 07 15:44 |
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| matey | stallman thinks that because you can say it in the form of a sentence, that you can tell people non-software doesnt need to be free but assets do | May 07 15:44 |
| bnchs | yes, free assets should be apart of a free software | May 07 15:45 |
| matey | <bnchs> not assets <- youre wrong. they already care about assets. | May 07 15:45 |
| matey | but by not caring about free culture, they basically push aside the entire army that might liberate games | May 07 15:45 |
| matey | so you have the idea of "lets have free assets" but you dont have any people who can make that happen (relatively speaking) | May 07 15:45 |
| matey | and what happened as a result is that open source gained an opportunity | May 07 15:46 |
| matey | to bring in everyone that cared about free culture, which they did | May 07 15:46 |
| matey | its like if america needed to go to war, and told canada to go fuck themselves, so canada decided to help china instead | May 07 15:46 |
| bnchs | that's true | May 07 15:47 |
| matey | unfortunately the only people working to fix this at the fsf are the lying open source brigade | May 07 15:47 |
| matey | so right move, wrong reasons, self-defeating methodology | May 07 15:47 |
| bnchs | how would you change that | May 07 15:48 |
| matey | yes, free software needs free culture. but free culture is a vangard of free expression, and the only people who care about free culture at the fsf are those working to destroy free expression | May 07 15:48 |
| matey | <bnchs> how would you change that <- you need people who actually demand freedom to care about free culture | May 07 15:48 |
| matey | it will happen eventually :/ | May 07 15:49 |
| matey | but every year it doesnt happen is a year that free software is operating at half-strength at best | May 07 15:49 |
| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2144.html | May 07 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | May 07 15:49 | |
| matey | and having a bunch of backstabbers demand free culture isnt transformative (at least not in a positive way) | May 07 15:49 |
| matey | if nothing reasonable and honest can be built at the fsf, then everything has to be built around, near, or next to it | May 07 15:50 |
| bnchs | i'm looking at a few things | May 07 15:50 |
| bnchs | https://github.com/ninjamuffin99/Funkin | May 07 15:51 |
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| bnchs | this guy is literally pathetic | May 07 15:51 |
| bnchs | >licensed under apache 2.0 | May 07 15:51 |
| bnchs | >IF YOU MAKE A MOD AND DISTRIBUTE A MODIFIED / RECOMPILED VERSION, YOU MUST OPEN SOURCE YOUR MOD AS WELL | May 07 15:51 |
| matey | doy | May 07 15:51 |
| bnchs | he avoids using GPL, thinking that his game will get official console releases | May 07 15:52 |
| bnchs | as much chances as a divorced man thinking his ex-wife will come back to him | May 07 15:52 |
| matey | i actually got back with my divorced wife briefly | May 07 15:53 |
| matey | but of course it was the same problem the second time | May 07 15:53 |
| bnchs | i remember he replaced the apache 2.0 license with "if u make mods, open source them, lol!" | May 07 15:54 |
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| bnchs | which briefly made his game non-free until he reverted it back to apache 2.0 | May 07 15:54 |
| matey | my guess is he wasnt able to revoke the license on anything except new changes | May 07 15:55 |
| matey | so the non-free part was insubstantial | May 07 15:55 |
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| matey | of course if he had kept going that way, it might not be | May 07 15:55 |
| bnchs | he changed the license even with the game still having 3rd party contributions licensed under apache 2.0 | May 07 15:56 |
| MinceR | lol @ official console releases | May 07 15:56 |
| matey | either way hes treating freedom as some kind of gimmick, which is sort of what open source does | May 07 15:56 |
| bnchs | he would have gotten sued | May 07 15:56 |
| bnchs | MinceR, lol "NinjaMuffin wants to use GPL, but he was advised by someone he clearly trusted that using any GPL license is a death wish, when it comes to the planned Nintendo port. He's seeking alternatives, so he stumbled here until then. Hopefully shit gets cleared soon, because licensing is hell to deal with." | May 07 15:56 |
| matey | he would have gotten sued <- how? | May 07 15:56 |
| MinceR | consoles have been a waste of resources since 1993, if not earlier | May 07 15:56 |
| bnchs | matey: having legally incompatible code? | May 07 15:57 |
| bnchs | maybe not sued | May 07 15:57 |
| bnchs | but complained | May 07 15:57 |
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| matey | what i dont understand is how "still having 3rd party contributions licensed under apache 2.0" is incompatible with what he did | May 07 15:57 |
| matey | i mean you can mix apache 2.0 with non-free as far as i know | May 07 15:58 |
| matey | thats sort of the point | May 07 15:58 |
| bnchs | hmm | May 07 15:58 |
| matey | but he would have to distribute the contributions under the correct terms | May 07 15:58 |
| matey | the contributions themselves dont become non-free | May 07 15:59 |
| matey | theyre used in a non-free project | May 07 15:59 |
| bnchs | but if he reverted it to apache 2.0 | May 07 15:59 |
| matey | but i believe you can do that. as long as you do it within the rules | May 07 15:59 |
| bnchs | then he has to relicense all of the previous contributions to apache 2.0 | May 07 15:59 |
| matey | was this a typo then? "still having 3rd party contributions licensed under apache 2.0" | May 07 16:00 |
| matey | did you mean it the other way around? | May 07 16:00 |
| matey | he changed back to 2.0 while still having contributions under non-free licenses? | May 07 16:00 |
| matey | if you have a free or non-free project with apache 2 contributions... | May 07 16:00 |
| matey | the contributions are always available under apache 2 | May 07 16:01 |
| bnchs | matey: yes | May 07 16:01 |
| matey | sticking them in a non-free (or free) game doesnt change their status | May 07 16:01 |
| bnchs | i actually meant the other way around | May 07 16:01 |
| matey | but it is (i believe) allowed. you still have to do certain things | May 07 16:01 |
| matey | i actually meant the other way around <- ahhh ok | May 07 16:01 |
| matey | yes, now i understand the problem | May 07 16:01 |
| bnchs | but anyway, it's obvious he treats freedom as a gimmick | May 07 16:01 |
| matey | he cant relicense other contributions under a different license without asking the contributors | May 07 16:02 |
| matey | i mean he cant liberate their code for them-- unless of course theres a cla | May 07 16:02 |
| matey | but from what ive read about this guy, theres no way hes using a cla | May 07 16:02 |
| bnchs | there was no cla | May 07 16:02 |
| bnchs | he did this suddenly | May 07 16:02 |
| matey | of course not | May 07 16:02 |
| bnchs | out of nowhere | May 07 16:02 |
| matey | it sounds like incompetence | May 07 16:03 |
| matey | but we pretty much sussed that already | May 07 16:03 |
| bnchs | he's willing to sacrifice freedom to have console ports of his game | May 07 16:03 |
| matey | "no copyright infringement intended" :) | May 07 16:04 |
| matey | magic words | May 07 16:04 |
| matey | that do nothing | May 07 16:04 |
| matey | maybe he needs to work on his ninja training | May 07 16:05 |
| bnchs | his community is mainly a bunch of underaged kids on discord | May 07 16:05 |
| bnchs | i've seen tutorials about how to compile his game on youtube | May 07 16:06 |
| bnchs | most of them are just blindly running commands | May 07 16:06 |
| matey | its impressive they know how to compile it | May 07 16:06 |
| bnchs | and ignoring errors (such as the program not existing) | May 07 16:06 |
| bnchs | making a broken build | May 07 16:06 |
| matey | and ignoring errors (such as the program not existing) <- oh, lol | May 07 16:06 |
| matey | i guess it WOULD BE impressive | May 07 16:06 |
| matey | if they knew | May 07 16:06 |
| matey | ive compiled very little, in the traditional sense | May 07 16:07 |
| bnchs | and they did it all in windows | May 07 16:07 |
| matey | i worked on cutting qb64 in half and compiled that in gpp | May 07 16:07 |
| bnchs | and windows' CMD | May 07 16:07 |
| matey | i was trying to get it to compile to python instead of c++ :) | May 07 16:07 |
| matey | of course the compiler itself was still written in c++ | May 07 16:08 |
| matey | ive compiled bash, python2 (cpython) and this little program that locks the screen | May 07 16:08 |
| bnchs | i used to compile qbittorrent when i was a kid | May 07 16:08 |
| matey | i changed the icon, which was implemented in some kind of array (hardcoded) | May 07 16:09 |
| bnchs | when arch linux didn't have it | May 07 16:09 |
| matey | but ive compiled little else | May 07 16:09 |
| matey | i also wrote a compiler, but in python (and it translates code to python) | May 07 16:09 |
| matey | still thats compiling | May 07 16:09 |
| matey | although they often call it something else like transpiling | May 07 16:10 |
| matey | but the reason i hate compiling is build systems | May 07 16:10 |
| matey | and broken builds | May 07 16:10 |
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| matey | and not knowing (to this day) enough about compiling to fix such things | May 07 16:10 |
| matey | openbsd has helped a bit | May 07 16:11 |
| matey | but only in the sense that i was able to compile something as complex as bash or cpython | May 07 16:11 |
| matey | i mean i still have no idea how it works | May 07 16:12 |
| bnchs | i had to modify a program a bit to get it working with modern OpenSSL | May 07 16:12 |
| matey | theres not much point changing a program if you cant compile it afterward :) | May 07 16:12 |
| matey | obviously if its in a scripting language you dont have to | May 07 16:13 |
| matey | which is one reason scripting languages are so great | May 07 16:13 |
| matey | make the change, and... thats it, youre done | May 07 16:13 |
| matey | it comes with costs but the benefits are huge | May 07 16:13 |
| matey | obviously it doesnt work to do absolutely everything that way | May 07 16:14 |
| matey | and you have to compile the interpreters, or at least someone does | May 07 16:15 |
| activelow | too scripts are compiled, it's JIT, while typically C is compiled AOT, just-in-time and ahead-of-time | May 07 16:18 |
| activelow | this difference isn't the reason, most software sucks | May 07 16:19 |
| bnchs | activelow, a program has to be compiled for a CPU to understand | May 07 16:20 |
| bnchs | so basically anything written in assembly or C is compiled ahead of time | May 07 16:21 |
| bnchs | i mean there will always be AOT compiled programs | May 07 16:21 |
| activelow | with asm macros are expanded into opcodes i would say, slight difference to compilation, meaning an asm macro processor is different to a C compiler, result being the same, opcodes a CPU can load into memory and process | May 07 16:23 |
| activelow | meanwhile, wrapped some more stuff into alpha ebuilds... such as dvtm and abduco, which are very nice goodies to have | May 07 16:23 |
| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/2147.html | May 07 16:23 |
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| activelow | haven't got a solution yet, to hook into a screen-locker (cmatrix&&vlock) into either dvtm or abduco, similar to what tmux supports with the lock-command | May 07 16:24 |
| activelow | and, another one for today, sixel support with dvtm; and btw. i consider abduco+dvtm a preferrable choice, in comparison to gnu screen or tmux | May 07 16:24 |
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| matey | of course | May 07 16:26 |
| matey | one of the cool things about tinycc is you can use it to sort of turn c into a scripting language | May 07 16:27 |
| matey | because its that fast | May 07 16:27 |
| matey | but in terms of practical use, you can see how many people are using it that way... i mean | May 07 16:27 |
| matey | one of the typical feature of a "scripting language" is taking care of the sort of mundane (but useful) tasks that c forces you to do yourself | May 07 16:28 |
| matey | so the idea of c as a scripting language is amusing at least, and many practical for something | May 07 16:28 |
| matey | but in general thats not likely to catch on | May 07 16:28 |
| matey | s/many/maybe/ | May 07 16:28 |
| *activelow doesn't like scripting languages and any non-posix bashism | May 07 16:29 | |
| MinceR | there are posix bashisms? | May 07 16:30 |
| matey | one of the reasons that python works as a scripting language is it already has so many pieces that are written in other, faster, more powerful languages | May 07 16:30 |
| matey | /me really hates bash more all the time | May 07 16:30 |
| MinceR | i don't think that many pieces are written for python in more powerful languages | May 07 16:30 |
| matey | libraries... | May 07 16:30 |
| MinceR | written in lisp or something? | May 07 16:31 |
| matey | i meant like c or c++ | May 07 16:31 |
| matey | which i consider more powerful than python | May 07 16:31 |
| activelow | MinceR: probably, bash got an environment parameter POSIXLY_CORRECT=1 ... wouldn't trust any script in compliance would be portable then to any other POSIX shell | May 07 16:31 |
| MinceR | i don't consider either of them to be as powerful as python | May 07 16:32 |
| MinceR | try implementing the same thing in them :> | May 07 16:32 |
| activelow | bash+c+*nix utilities | May 07 16:32 |
| MinceR | activelow: i think that's more Bourne shell than bash | May 07 16:32 |
| matey | the point of saying this was to note that i dont believe you can simply do everything in a scripting language | May 07 16:32 |
| MinceR | also, possibly the behavior of libc | May 07 16:33 |
| matey | because even the most powerful scripting langauges have components which rely on the power of other languages | May 07 16:33 |
| MinceR | i don't see how this "scripting language" category is helpful | May 07 16:33 |
| MinceR | python offers a lot more software leverage than c++ does | May 07 16:33 |
| matey | im a big fan of scripting, or interpreted language | May 07 16:34 |
| matey | i learned basic originally, i used it for 25 years | May 07 16:34 |
| matey | first as an intepreter, then compiled, then interpreted again | May 07 16:34 |
| matey | i spent years looking for a suitable replacement, and when i found it, it was python | May 07 16:34 |
| matey | basic was originally a compiler, on the dtss at least | May 07 16:35 |
| MinceR | so, if you have a bit of common lisp or scheme code and you can both compile it into a binary and have the REPL interpret it, is it written in a scripting language or not? | May 07 16:35 |
| matey | im not pushing "scripting language" as a term, its just what most people call easy to use interpreted language | May 07 16:35 |
| matey | stallman worries about "programming" vs "coding" but i know people will always lean towards the latter simply because "close enough" and "fewer letters" | May 07 16:36 |
| matey | len('scripting') < len('interpreted') and more or less the same thing, so... | May 07 16:37 |
| MinceR | :> | May 07 16:37 |
| MinceR | still, it's not a quality of the language, or even of the language implementation | May 07 16:37 |
| matey | for the most part i agree | May 07 16:38 |
| matey | and yet no one is going to create a driver or an os in python | May 07 16:38 |
| matey | the closest thing there is would be the sugar platform | May 07 16:38 |
| bnchs | python is used for embedded devices though | May 07 16:38 |
| matey | and thats all on the surface obviously | May 07 16:38 |
| matey | yeah listen, python is probably my favourite language, even now | May 07 16:38 |
| matey | other than my own, which compiles to (and is implemented in) python | May 07 16:38 |
| MinceR | you can write a FUSE filesystem driver in python | May 07 16:39 |
| matey | thats fucking awesome. | May 07 16:39 |
| MinceR | more drivers should be implemented in userspace | May 07 16:39 |
| matey | fuse is supposed to be a linux thing (i thought it was) but sshfs is fuse and sshfs is available in bsd | May 07 16:39 |
| bnchs | if the driver crashes, doesn't mean the entire kernel crashes with it | May 07 16:39 |
| matey | and i think freebsd does fuse anyway | May 07 16:39 |
| activelow | another idea is, a scripting language is used for prototyping, and then the python prototype source text is "transpiled"/translated into C | May 07 16:40 |
| matey | my only gripe about python (other than github, which pypy sort of takes care of) | May 07 16:40 |
| matey | is that python 3 isnt a language at all (just like rust) but a webapi posing as a language | May 07 16:40 |
| MinceR | dunno about that, but i have gripes about python | May 07 16:40 |
| matey | which pypy2 sort of takes care of | May 07 16:40 |
| MinceR | too much MICROS~1 control, no built-in support for multiline lambdas | May 07 16:41 |
| matey | so i target pypy compatibility | May 07 16:41 |
| matey | im not leet enough to worry about lambdas | May 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | iirc python3 still makes some hairy assumptions about some inputs being utf-8 | May 07 16:41 |
| XRevan86 | matey: IIRC, ye were speaking of some code snippet that ye can't port to Python 3, can I look at it? | May 07 16:41 |
| matey | i tried lambdas in python, but i didnt inhale | May 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | multiline lambdas can be effectively added back in via hy, but i wish that wasn't necessary | May 07 16:41 |
| MinceR | and, well, with non-hy lisp dialects, it isn't necessary :> | May 07 16:42 |
| matey | XRevan86: f = open(file).read() ; print(f) # :) | May 07 16:42 |
| matey | im completely serious | May 07 16:42 |
| matey | to make that work (reliably) in python 3 you have to do all sorts of nasty things | May 07 16:43 |
| matey | the best retort to this is "python 2 also did all sorts of nasty things, and those werent reliable" | May 07 16:44 |
| matey | and thats true-- but not for the things ive used python for since 2009. | May 07 16:44 |
| matey | to the present. | May 07 16:44 |
| matey | python 3 breaks that code-- i can tell you how long it took for my python 3 hackish replacement of that code to fail on me. | May 07 16:44 |
| matey | i wrote a fairly straightforward workaround (in python 3) that took about half a year to break | May 07 16:45 |
| matey | so i went back to python 2 and f = open(file).read() ; print(f) | May 07 16:45 |
| matey | and it didnt break, and i use that | May 07 16:45 |
| MinceR | sounds like one of those unicode issues | May 07 16:45 |
| matey | of course it is | May 07 16:45 |
| matey | all i want (unicode string wise) from python 3 is | May 07 16:46 |
| matey | from _past_ import strings | May 07 16:46 |
| matey | there is no such thing (and braces will come first) | May 07 16:46 |
| MinceR | :> | May 07 16:46 |
| matey | but pypy is highly unlikely to abandon python 2 compatibility | May 07 16:46 |
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| matey | so its cheaper to use pypy2 than worry about fixing python 3 | May 07 16:47 |
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| matey | even if you fixed python 3 | May 07 16:47 |
| matey | microsoft will destroy it | May 07 16:47 |
| matey | between github and guido working for satan, thats bad enough | May 07 16:47 |
| matey | the rustification of python 3 is even worse than that | May 07 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | matey: with open(file, "rb") as f: ; print(f.read().decode(errors='replace')) | May 07 16:47 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Will that do? | May 07 16:47 |
| matey | XRevan86: ill tell you in 6 months? | May 07 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's a weird answer. | May 07 16:48 |
| matey | thats how long it took my own workaround to fail | May 07 16:48 |
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| matey | i was working on thousands of files, and weird shit was happening | May 07 16:48 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's not a workaround, that's a straightforward hack. | May 07 16:48 |
| matey | but other than that my workaround worked | May 07 16:48 |
| bnchs | i used python to make my unpacker/packer for some console game file format | May 07 16:48 |
| matey | .decode(errors='replace') <- i am not familiar with this | May 07 16:49 |
| matey | it looks smart, but i still dont know of it | May 07 16:49 |
| matey | maybe it does EXACTLY what i want | May 07 16:49 |
| matey | but since i dont know it, how could i say it does? | May 07 16:49 |
| XRevan86 | 1. open with "binary", because otherwise Python 3 expects UTF-8; 2. decode the binary mess into a UTF-8 representation that can be printed out, the undecodable characters will be replaced with "�" kind of shit, just like Python 2 does. | May 07 16:49 |
| matey | thats AWESOME | May 07 16:50 |
| MinceR | it will probably still drop some characters, it just won't quit with an exception when it sees something it doesn't like | May 07 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | So it does explicitly what Python 2 does implicitly. | May 07 16:50 |
| techrights-news | "The US Treasury Department announced on Friday that it’s sanctioning Blender.io" ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/6/23060544/us-treasury-blender-io-sanctions-bitcoin-mixer | Source: The Verge | May 07 16:50 |
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| matey | why the fuck dont more people teach that? | May 07 16:50 |
| techrights-news | So-called "currency" ☛ https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/us-sanctions-north-korean-cryptocurrency-mixing-firm-84544295 | Source: ABC | May 07 16:50 |
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| SomeH4x0r | XRevan86: is it a "replacement character" or you meant something else? | May 07 16:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Just like Python 2. | May 07 16:50 |
| MinceR | even python2 couldn't just act like cat does? | May 07 16:50 |
| matey | its not like ive never spent DAYS looking for solutions | May 07 16:50 |
| matey | its not like i didnt try 2to3 | May 07 16:50 |
| MinceR | i thought it didn't make assumptions about the encoding of what it read from a file | May 07 16:50 |
| matey | <MinceR> even python2 couldn't just act like cat does? <- maybe it can | May 07 16:50 |
| matey | <MinceR> i thought it didn't make assumptions about the encodin <- welcome to my world mincer | May 07 16:51 |
| MinceR | i know python3 does | May 07 16:51 |
| matey | <XRevan86> MinceR: Just like Python 2. <- this is great though | May 07 16:51 |
| matey | oh | May 07 16:51 |
| MinceR | well, whatever, scheme and common lisp are both better than python | May 07 16:51 |
| matey | sure, if you like that sort of thing | May 07 16:51 |
| matey | im not stupid enough to diss lisp | May 07 16:52 |
| matey | but i dont have to prefer it even if its better :) | May 07 16:52 |
| XRevan86 | matey: https://docs.python.org/3/library/codecs.html#codecs.decode here's the documentation. | May 07 16:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-docs.python.org | codecs — Codec registry and base classes — Python 3.10.4 documentation | May 07 16:52 | |
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| matey | ive looked at that before | May 07 16:52 |
| matey | just not closely enough obviously | May 07 16:52 |
| techrights-news | "Two weeks ago, the European Union reached a deal on the final terms of its landmark regulation, the Digital Services Act." ☛ https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/3479764-a-safe-open-internet-with-transatlantic-rules-is-easier-than-it-sounds/ | Source: The Hill | May 07 16:52 |
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| XRevan86 | MinceR: There could be a difference, but only on a non-UTF-8 terminal. | May 07 16:53 |
| matey | ive learned coding mostly through examples and tutorials | May 07 16:53 |
| techrights-news | "A California judge on Friday tossed out former President Trump’s lawsuit that sought to lift his Twitter ban." ☛ https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3480189-judge-tosses-out-trump-lawsuit-over-lifting-twitter-ban/ | Source: The Hill | May 07 16:53 |
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| matey | with bits of documentation, but not foremost | May 07 16:53 |
| matey | im not a cut and paster, that way leads to all sorts of horrors | May 07 16:53 |
| techrights-news | "Specifically, Nvidia violated Section 17(a)(2) and (3) of the Securities Act of 1933 and the disclosure provisions" ☛ https://www.pcworld.com/article/698599/u-s-government-slaps-nvidia-with-a-5-5-million-fine-over-geforce-gpus-used-for-crypto-mining.html | Source: PC World | May 07 16:54 |
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| matey | id rather write my own horrors than cut and paste someone elses into something even worse | May 07 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | matey: The fun thing is that there are many "error handlers", and one can even make a custom one. | May 07 16:54 |
| matey | yeah i used try and except like a noob. | May 07 16:54 |
| XRevan86 | That will interpret binary garbage to one's liking. | May 07 16:54 |
| matey | but it worked for half a year | May 07 16:54 |
| matey | .read().decode(errors='replace') <- this is | May 07 16:55 |
| matey | if you were in town id buy you lunch | May 07 16:55 |
| bnchs | i hate packed file formats | May 07 16:55 |
| bnchs | specifically one's that don't store filenames but instead CRC32 hashes of the filename | May 07 16:56 |
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| matey | my filesystem uses utf anyway | May 07 16:57 |
| matey | im not bothered by that | May 07 16:57 |
| matey | .decode(errors='replace') <- i always tell people | May 07 16:58 |
| matey | the biggest, worst bugs are usually very small (and often simple) | May 07 16:58 |
| bnchs | decode? | May 07 16:58 |
| bnchs | i don't decode crap | May 07 16:58 |
| bnchs | but i should have | May 07 16:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▆▂▃▄▂▁▂▅▂▁▂▁▂▁▅▅▄▅▃▄▄▄▁▂▂▂▃█▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▄▁ avg(k/sec) 20.50 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▂▁▂██▁▁▁█▇▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▁▂█▁▁███▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 144.16▕ swarm size (avg): 489.88 ⟲ | May 07 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Like not sanitising input? | May 07 16:59 |
| XRevan86 | That's in top 5 of bugs for sure. | May 07 16:59 |
| matey | well i did my best | May 07 16:59 |
| matey | and i looked for the very thing you suggested, but to no avail | May 07 17:00 |
| matey | /me checks how long ago he abandoned the python 3 version of | May 07 17:00 |
| matey | six yaers ago. | May 07 17:01 |
| matey | six years ago i gave up on the python 3 version and went back to python 2 | May 07 17:01 |
| matey | i still prefer python 2 for stability and simplicity | May 07 17:02 |
| matey | and pypy is maintained (unlike cpython2 obviously) which is why i hate the "python 2 isnt maintained" shit | May 07 17:02 |
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| matey | because cpython is the only implementation in the world. | May 07 17:02 |
| matey | i mean the python foundation gave 10,000 to pypy but they act like it doesnt exist | May 07 17:02 |
| bnchs | cpython is the best implementation of python | May 07 17:03 |
| matey | its the one microsoft is destroying and its the one on github. | May 07 17:03 |
| techrights-news | "In a series of follow-up tweets, Dillon explained that the account would be restored in 12 hours" ☛ https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersuciu/2022/03/21/the-babylon-bees-twitter-account-was-suspended-but-that-made-its-story-go-viral/ | Source: Forbes | May 07 17:03 |
| matey | so "best" is quite useless to me | May 07 17:03 |
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| matey | the rustification is a separate issue | May 07 17:04 |
| matey | python is neither standard nor stable | May 07 17:04 |
| matey | but python 3 is far more unstable than python 2 | May 07 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Ironically, Python 3's approach to strings allows for more predictable results. | May 07 17:04 |
| matey | thats what they say | May 07 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | matey: That's what I say too. | May 07 17:04 |
| matey | youre the only one with the right, imo | May 07 17:05 |
| bnchs | the good is how lightweight and portable cpython is | May 07 17:05 |
| matey | as without your tip, i know what python 3 delivers in terms of predictability | May 07 17:05 |
| bnchs | it's good how* | May 07 17:05 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Python is an unforgiving language when it comes to errors. | May 07 17:06 |
| XRevan86 | Which is usually considered to be a good thing :). | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | yes, usually | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | but i mean, the way youre saying that is nearly specious, and ill explain. | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | ada is FAR more unforgiving | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | thus far better | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | which is true of course. | May 07 17:06 |
| matey | for some purposes. | May 07 17:07 |
| XRevan86 | I wanted to say "go to PHP for nonstrictness", but everything new in PHP is pretty strict. | May 07 17:07 |
| matey | when you want a satellite to work predictably | May 07 17:07 |
| matey | you want to write the software in ada, not python | May 07 17:07 |
| matey | far more things are written in bash, which compared to python is "anything goes" | May 07 17:07 |
| matey | we both understand the differences and why such tradeoffs were made | May 07 17:07 |
| matey | neither of us have to explain that to the other | May 07 17:08 |
| matey | but my point is, such tradeoffs ARE made | May 07 17:08 |
| matey | and i prefer python 2s strike of that balance | May 07 17:08 |
| matey | python 3 (like php now) is more anal-retentive | May 07 17:08 |
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| matey | but it will never be ada, it will only be a shoe that (for me) does not fit | May 07 17:08 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Yes, I'm just trying to frame this aspect of Python, that it threw an exception on you, as that Python is not making assumptions, it will fail when something wrong happens and it is unhandled. | May 07 17:08 |
| matey | well there are times when i want to tell it to ignore exceptions | May 07 17:09 |
| matey | and python has always had a mechanism for that | May 07 17:09 |
| matey | but in python 3 telling it to ignore exceptions was not behaving as predictably as it was in python 2 :) because everything was more complicated | May 07 17:09 |
| XRevan86 | matey: And that's still possible. | May 07 17:09 |
| matey | yes, but i didnt know that :) | May 07 17:09 |
| matey | and that was after a very long time spent looking | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | in the wrong place obviously. | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | if i had looked in the right place, i might have found it :) | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | thats how that works | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | but this is only my biggest gripe solved | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | there are others | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | im still impressed of course | May 07 17:10 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/EwZPU1f.jpeg | May 07 17:10 |
| matey | i mean it makes me hate python 3 a bit less | May 07 17:10 |
| techrights-news | "By subscribing to public cloud offerings, an organization can focus on its core business and not worry about the physical infrastructure" ☛ https://blog.apnic.net/2022/05/05/public-cloud-and-technical-culture/ | Source: APNIC | May 07 17:11 |
| matey | which is a biggest statement than it sounds like | May 07 17:11 |
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| matey | bigger | May 07 17:11 |
| techrights-news | "ISPs and other companies — or the defendants — could still contest the order." ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/6/23057391/pirate-site-injunction-isp-blocking-requirement | Source: The Verge | May 07 17:11 |
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| matey | all the other gripes are still there, the rustification cant be solved without forking | May 07 17:11 |
| bnchs | fuck | May 07 17:12 |
| bnchs | 93 mb total memory | May 07 17:12 |
| bnchs | 2 mb free memory | May 07 17:12 |
| matey | wtf are you running | May 07 17:12 |
| bnchs | python 2.7.16 | May 07 17:12 |
| bnchs | gstreamer | May 07 17:12 |
| matey | i can watch video without any cpu load (apparently) but when i switch to another virtual desktop the load goes up | May 07 17:13 |
| matey | with mplayer (i think it uses gstreamer) | May 07 17:13 |
| matey | thats just weird | May 07 17:13 |
| bnchs | this is a satellite decoder | May 07 17:13 |
| matey | hmm | May 07 17:14 |
| bnchs | a set top-box that i can run a IRC client on | May 07 17:14 |
| matey | cool | May 07 17:14 |
| bnchs | also watch channels | May 07 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | mplayer doesn't use gstreamer. | May 07 17:14 |
| XRevan86 | MPlayer and MPV both use FFmpeg. | May 07 17:14 |
| techrights-news | "Lagrange v1.13.3 supports spartan!" gemini://hedy.flounder.online/journal/2022/ | May 07 17:16 |
| bnchs | the cool fact about this is that the frontend is completely written in python | May 07 17:16 |
| matey | sometimes i mix up ffmpeg and gstreamer | May 07 17:16 |
| matey | im glad theyre not the same thing | May 07 17:16 |
| bnchs | somehow | May 07 17:16 |
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| matey | i have a gripe with pypy too | May 07 17:17 |
| matey | my gripe is about availability | May 07 17:17 |
| bnchs | and apparently has the worst way of installing packages | May 07 17:18 |
| matey | try using pypy for everything, then dont use gnu/linux, then use less supported archs, youll see what i mean | May 07 17:18 |
| matey | honestly im content with (even happier with) the standard packages | May 07 17:18 |
| matey | i used to use pygame, but-- github | May 07 17:18 |
| *psydroid2 thinks a $50 tv box can be a great computer running some free operating system | May 07 17:18 | |
| matey | im very fond of pytk, which is needed for idle | May 07 17:19 |
| bnchs | it has support for different applications (like a youtube client and shit) | May 07 17:19 |
| matey | /me figured out that bnchs is still talking about the set top box | May 07 17:19 |
| bnchs | but you have to install it by ssh'ing into the fucking box | May 07 17:19 |
| MinceR | isn't it called tkinter? | May 07 17:19 |
| matey | mincer: yes, yes it is | May 07 17:19 |
| bnchs | matey: yes | May 07 17:19 |
| bnchs | tbh i don't remember how i got it | May 07 17:20 |
| matey | tkinter is very nice. no harfbuzz, so if your glyphs are meant to combine they wont do that | May 07 17:20 |
| matey | harfbuzz seems to be a frontend for some SIL thing | May 07 17:20 |
| matey | but since the latter is also on github (at least its not the same author) thats not much different | May 07 17:21 |
| matey | harfbuzz is both on github and written by a stallman canceller | May 07 17:21 |
| XRevan86 | The way I saw PyPy is that it's killer feature is JIT, i.e. performance of certain operations is higher than in CPython. But then again, Numba exists. | May 07 17:21 |
| matey | that is the main thing pypy offers yes | May 07 17:21 |
| MinceR | also getting rid of the GIL | May 07 17:21 |
| matey | python 2 compatibility is a nice side effect of how its built | May 07 17:21 |
| matey | also getting rid of the GIL <- i wasnt aware that pypy2 does that | May 07 17:22 |
| matey | pypy even | May 07 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: True. | May 07 17:22 |
| matey | theres a bug in pypy, last i checked, regarding closing files | May 07 17:22 |
| matey | open().read() should close the file, it does in cpython | May 07 17:23 |
| matey | you can run it 100,000 times, it wont give you problems | May 07 17:23 |
| matey | in pypy you can still use open().read() but theres a limit | May 07 17:23 |
| bnchs | you mean the garbage collector should close it? | May 07 17:23 |
| matey | i mean that you run out of file handles that way if you use it in a big enough loop | May 07 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Ye may have noticed that when I gave back a Python 3 aware snippet, I avoided "open().read()" | May 07 17:24 |
| matey | unlike with cpython | May 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | automatic reference counting should close it before the gc gets to it | May 07 17:24 |
| MinceR | but maybe pypy doesn't have that | May 07 17:24 |
| matey | I avoided "open().read()" <- at any rate you have to in pypy | May 07 17:24 |
| matey | but you dont have to in cpython, because it closes the file properly (as pypy should) | May 07 17:25 |
| matey | but since pypy doesnt, when i moved from python to pypy i changed my program to use open() ; file.read() instead | May 07 17:25 |
| matey | this way close() can be used | May 07 17:25 |
| matey | i havent tried open().read().close() maybe i should :) | May 07 17:26 |
| matey | i bet it wont work of course | May 07 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What would it close? | May 07 17:26 |
| matey | the thing it leaves open! | May 07 17:26 |
| matey | that it shoudlnt leave open | May 07 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | The output of read() | May 07 17:26 |
| matey | i know | May 07 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | It can't be chained. | May 07 17:27 |
| matey | i wouldnt think so | May 07 17:27 |
| matey | but they already broke it, maybe they fixed it in some stupid way | May 07 17:27 |
| matey | i think its unlikely. | May 07 17:27 |
| bnchs | put the result of open() to a variable | May 07 17:27 |
| matey | ive done that | May 07 17:27 |
| bnchs | then read from the variable and close it | May 07 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | The official way to use open() without using close() is to use with | May 07 17:27 |
| matey | with is cool | May 07 17:27 |
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| matey | but the official way changes all the time | May 07 17:28 |
| matey | i mean not in this example | May 07 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | matey: "but you dont have to in cpython, because it closes the file properly (as pypy should)" <- I really don't think that's reliable. | May 07 17:28 |
| matey | broadly speaking, python is like a teenager, constantly reinventing itself and trying to impress people | May 07 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | matey: All the time, yea (exists since Python 2.5) | May 07 17:28 |
| matey | <- I really don't think that's reliable. <- ive used it since 2009 | May 07 17:28 |
| matey | at any rate, switching to pypy forced me to do it the way you recommend | May 07 17:29 |
| matey | its not a big deal, but in cpython i (really) didnt have to do that | May 07 17:29 |
| XRevan86 | matey: But ye really should. | May 07 17:29 |
| matey | and if i always did what i should, life would be a lot more complicated (and sometimes ridiculously so) | May 07 17:30 |
| psydroid2 | "Esfahbod was arrested by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps intelligence echelon during a 2020 visit to Tehran. He was then moved to Evin prison, where he was psychologically pressured and interrogated in solitary confinement for 7 days. They downloaded all his private data from his devices. Iranian security forces let him go based on his promise to spy on his friends once he was back in the United States." | May 07 17:30 |
| matey | i mean, if i all i wanted to do was write python "the way you should" id just move to another language thats more stable | May 07 17:30 |
| XRevan86 | Isn't that half of programming? Using the programming language properly? | May 07 17:30 |
| psydroid2 | not someone you want to be friends with | May 07 17:30 |
| matey | not at the point at which it becomes a fallacy, no | May 07 17:30 |
| matey | it ultimately turns into "no true python" and honestly, fuck that | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | its a game | May 07 17:31 |
| bnchs | psydroid2, when you hear "intelligence" | May 07 17:31 |
| XRevan86 | matey: "Should" as in "it may break otherwise because even the developers of the language don't trust that" | May 07 17:31 |
| bnchs | it's always gonna end badly | May 07 17:31 |
| bnchs | waterboarding | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | developers come and go | May 07 17:31 |
| bnchs | torture | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | not everything they do is better | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | when they make a change i dont think is better, i use what works that i prefer. | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | and if they try to break it FURTHER specifically to stop me from doing that | May 07 17:31 |
| matey | NOT for the reasons they say | May 07 17:32 |
| matey | thats the sort of uppity industry bullshit up with which i do not put. | May 07 17:32 |
| matey | to paraphrase (alleged) churchhill | May 07 17:32 |
| matey | i mean it really does become like a grammatical pissing match, and that point im out. | May 07 17:32 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It was literally always this way. | May 07 17:32 |
| matey | i literally never had an issue with it until i switched to pypy. | May 07 17:32 |
| matey | not even once. | May 07 17:33 |
| matey | not even on tens of thousands of files | May 07 17:33 |
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| XRevan86 | The only (very relatively) new thing is that a "with" operator was introduced, which allows implicit close() | May 07 17:33 |
| matey | ive got a widget that monitors memory leaks and everything. i care. | May 07 17:33 |
| matey | when i design something that breaks, i try to fix it. | May 07 17:33 |
| matey | when it doesnt break... | May 07 17:33 |
| matey | theres an aphorism not used nearly often enough, that i dont think developers understand fully: | May 07 17:34 |
| matey | "dont fix it if its not broken" | May 07 17:34 |
| matey | im looking at the python developers | May 07 17:34 |
| matey | but | May 07 17:34 |
| matey | fixing broken things is okay (thats why i fixed the code to work in pypy) | May 07 17:34 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Sometimes fixing one thing breaks another. | May 07 17:35 |
| matey | i think its dangerous to put so much faith in developers that we assume everything they do is for a good reason | May 07 17:35 |
| matey | matey: Sometimes fixing one thing breaks another. <- not in tech | May 07 17:35 |
| matey | in tech, fixing one thing breaks 10 or more things. | May 07 17:35 |
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| matey | which is why i dont fix anything without considering the next 7 generations :) | May 07 17:36 |
| matey | that and sheer laziness | May 07 17:36 |
| matey | i chose methods for their ease and convenience, not only correctness | May 07 17:36 |
| matey | because correctness dovetails with fashion, and (to SOME degree) is arbitrary. | May 07 17:36 |
| XRevan86 | matey: One day relying on an unreliable mechanism in CPython may bite your arse. | May 07 17:37 |
| matey | when its actually reasonable, im pro-correctness | May 07 17:37 |
| matey | when its necessary, thats one thing. | May 07 17:37 |
| matey | correctness for correctnesses sake is bullshit though | May 07 17:37 |
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| XRevan86 | And there are reliable deterministic ways of doing things. | May 07 17:37 |
| matey | One day relying on an unreliable mechanism in CPython may bite your arse. <- its happened once or twice | May 07 17:37 |
| matey | And there are reliable deterministic ways of doing things. <- i find your abundance of faith disturbing | May 07 17:38 |
| matey | youre saying things that can only be wrong if you overdo them | May 07 17:38 |
| XRevan86 | matey: open() → close() is (almost) deterministic. "with" is deterministic. | May 07 17:38 |
| matey | and im only arguing against overdoing them. | May 07 17:38 |
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| MinceR | just use context managers (with) | May 07 17:38 |
| matey | matey: open() → close() is (almost) deterministic. <- i mean, like i said, from 2009 to quite recently, it never gave me a problem even once | May 07 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | I'm arguing that one shouldn't write bad code. | May 07 17:39 |
| matey | define bad code. | May 07 17:39 |
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| matey | youre overgeneralising in the name of formality | May 07 17:39 |
| XRevan86 | matey: In this case, code that may break under certain conditions, and expectedly so. | May 07 17:39 |
| matey | its not a contradiction, until it is | May 07 17:39 |
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| matey | and expectedly so. <- prove it? | May 07 17:39 |
| matey | if its not breaking, and working as intended as for years at a time, i think there are other things worth focusing on tbh | May 07 17:40 |
| matey | theres always some improvement that can be made | May 07 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | matey: It may just mountain up. | May 07 17:40 |
| matey | maybe | May 07 17:40 |
| matey | i like to keep it simple | May 07 17:41 |
| XRevan86 | Little needless shortcuts with bad handling of edge-cases. | May 07 17:41 |
| MinceR | https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/04/27/the-place-of-fire | May 07 17:41 |
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| matey | youre treating something very broad as a given, and from a standpoint of logic i think you shouldnt | May 07 17:41 |
| matey | its prejudice (in the logical sense) | May 07 17:41 |
| matey | industry solves problems sometimes. weve seen it make up problems that dont exist so it can fix those too | May 07 17:42 |
| matey | i have no tolerance for that | May 07 17:42 |
| matey | but im told i should be afraid | May 07 17:42 |
| matey | i think we should fix real problems, and worry less about ones that are made up | May 07 17:42 |
| matey | but again-- youre not saying anything untrue, depending on the scope of what youre saying. | May 07 17:43 |
| matey | its simply a matter of scope | May 07 17:43 |
| matey | if we expand the scope of what youre saying to a hard rule, it think its lily-gilding and micromanagement, with all the advantages of both. | May 07 17:43 |
| matey | oh python "fixed" something. better go redo 1,200 already working programs. | May 07 17:44 |
| matey | fuck that really | May 07 17:44 |
| MinceR | older languages are more stable | May 07 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | matey: Ye're conflating issues as well. | May 07 17:44 |
| matey | not intentionally, but probably. | May 07 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | matey: This problem was in Python since day 1. | May 07 17:44 |
| XRevan86 | matey: What was open()'d should be manually close()'d. | May 07 17:45 |
| matey | i think you miss the fact that 1. i was never aware of it 2. it never affected me until i switched to pypy | May 07 17:45 |
| matey | and 3. i fixed it when i discovered it | May 07 17:45 |
| matey | but the most important is #2. | May 07 17:45 |
| matey | basically from 2009 to 2020 it was a non-issue in my life | May 07 17:45 |
| matey | i know there are things like y2k where we should have known better | May 07 17:46 |
| matey | but worrying about everything wont eliminated that category of flaw | May 07 17:46 |
| matey | sometimes you just have to fix things when they become a real problem | May 07 17:46 |
| matey | its nice when you can fix them ahead of time. when you know about the issue. | May 07 17:46 |
| matey | and when its a real issue. | May 07 17:47 |
| matey | but if i did everything the way i "should" then python would become too tedious to bother with. | May 07 17:47 |
| matey | id rather write code that works, than write code thats twice as bothersome to create because it SHOULD work. | May 07 17:47 |
| matey | and i really dont like the direction python is headed in, at alll | May 07 17:48 |
| matey | i have no desire to use it that way | May 07 17:48 |
| XRevan86 | matey: I really hope ye never *write* data with open and only read it. | May 07 17:48 |
| matey | matey: I really hope ye never *write* data with open and only read it. <- well no | May 07 17:48 |
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| matey | ive always used close after writing. | May 07 17:48 |
| matey | since before i even used python. | May 07 17:48 |
| matey | sure, the files close when the program ends | May 07 17:48 |
| matey | but i dont like leaving file handles dangling or failing to keep track of whats open, do i? | May 07 17:49 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfellowship.news | Charles Fussell, Jonathan Cohen & Debian SLAPP microsite, resignations | May 07 17:52 | |
| XRevan86 | matey: Why so much trust in the GC then? | May 07 17:52 |
| matey | because thats what gc is for | May 07 17:54 |
| matey | funnily enough, when i was trying to learn more about this | May 07 17:54 |
| matey | i found an article that PERFECTLY explains my position on this | May 07 17:54 |
| matey | https://lerner.co.il/2015/01/18/dont-use-python-close-files-answer-depends/ | May 07 17:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lerner.co.il | If you don't use "with", when does Python close files? The answer is: It depends. — Reuven Lerner | May 07 17:54 | |
| matey | in fact every shortcut i take (and i only take so many) is explained here. | May 07 17:55 |
| matey | its not arbitrary, im not against doing things correctly in most instances | May 07 17:55 |
| matey | it not only explains WHEN i make exceptions to the rules | May 07 17:57 |
| matey | but WHY | May 07 17:57 |
| matey | (apart from laziness which is a factor to be sure) | May 07 17:58 |
| matey | mostly im not lazy when its really better not to be | May 07 17:58 |
| matey | as a bonus its about the same example (though for me this is a sometimes-rule) | May 07 17:58 |
| matey | I ask this, because I have taught Python to many people over the years, and am convinced that trying to teach “with” and/or context managers, while also trying to teach many other topics, is more than students can absorb. While I touch on “with” in my introductory classes, I normally tell them that at this point in their careers, it’s fine to let Python close files, either when the reference count to the file object drops to zero, or when Pyth | May 07 18:01 |
| matey | the next step after learning how to code is doing it better and considering more edge cases | May 07 18:03 |
| matey | people who try to teach coding "properly" at the same time lose more people, who barely make it through or dont at all | May 07 18:04 |
| matey | coding properly should be introduced of course | May 07 18:04 |
| matey | but its a lifelong discipline and neednt (likely shouldnt, as it interferes with the primary goal) be introduced at exactly the same time / rate as coding itself | May 07 18:05 |
| matey | when people learn how to draw, write, do most things, they dont start with all the formality | May 07 18:05 |
| matey | they start with crayons more often than oil on canvas, because mistakes are cheap learning experiences | May 07 18:06 |
| matey | if you rely on formality, people will do things and not question them | May 07 18:06 |
| matey | if you let people make mistakes, they might learn MORE | May 07 18:06 |
| matey | and understand more intimately | May 07 18:07 |
| matey | thats bad for a mission critical system though its good for creating inquisitive, intuitive people | May 07 18:07 |
| matey | either way, if you show people the right way first, its no guarantee theyre more likely to learn the right way at all | May 07 18:08 |
| matey | you show them that coding is ridiculously complicated-- which it isnt always | May 07 18:08 |
| matey | we could just start everyone on ada, then after that tell them that for some applications, even shit like javascript suffinces | May 07 18:09 |
| matey | instead we always teach compromises | May 07 18:09 |
| matey | tradeoffs, imperfection | May 07 18:10 |
| matey | theres not enough simplicity in the world for me to believe we are placing enough emphasis on it when we teach | May 07 18:11 |
| matey | but either way things will get complex when they have to | May 07 18:11 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5LGcX9Y1vY | May 07 18:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://tube.cthd.icu/watch?v=l5LGcX9Y1vY | May 07 18:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> tube.cthd.icu | Operation CONDOR: When the United States Government Were the Terrorists - Invidious | May 07 18:14 | |
| matey | preventative medicine, like everything else, is subject to the law of diminishing returns | May 07 18:15 |
| matey | and being informal is fun | May 07 18:15 |
| matey | maybe 50% of the time i write something, its like the command line | May 07 18:18 |
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| matey | im not even saving it | May 07 18:18 |
| matey | im just writing it and running it | May 07 18:18 |
| matey | and it does the job and its done | May 07 18:18 |
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| matey | if i complicated that, it would be for nothing | May 07 18:19 |
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| bnchs | mem.... | May 07 18:21 |
| bnchs | memz | May 07 18:21 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164571 | May 07 18:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 07 18:23 | |
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| techrights-news | "It did not take too long to move from 2500 to 2600 games: there are now 2624 games at the time of writing working on the Steam Deck – in two categories as usual..." https://boilingsteam.com/more-than-2600-games-steam-deck/ | May 07 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | More than 2600 Games On The Steam Deck, with Corpse Party as Verified - Boiling Steam | May 07 18:28 | |
| techrights-news | Quieter Fans With The Latest Steam Deck Beta https://boilingsteam.com/quieter-fans-with-the-latest-steam-deck-beta/ | May 07 18:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boilingsteam.com | Quieter Fans With The Latest Steam Deck Beta - Boiling Steam | May 07 18:28 | |
| techrights-news | China Orders Government, State Firms to Dump Foreign PCs • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164572 GNU/Linux instead... | May 07 18:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | China Orders Government, State Firms to Dump Foreign PCs | Tux Machines | May 07 18:29 | |
| bnchs | dump foreign PCs | May 07 18:30 |
| bnchs | they're BAD | May 07 18:30 |
| bnchs | lets use our poorly-written software | May 07 18:30 |
| bnchs | with bad english | May 07 18:31 |
| techrights-news | Linux already has Microsoft GitHub pollution. Security risk for a number of reasons. https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220507052451.12890-1-ojeda@kernel.org/ | May 07 18:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lore.kernel.org | [PATCH v6 00/23] Rust support - Miguel Ojeda | May 07 18:34 | |
| techrights-news | "SpiderMonkey is the JavaScript engine used in Mozilla Firefox. This newsletter gives an overview of the JavaScript and WebAssembly work we’ve done as part of the Firefox 100 and 101 Nightly release cycles." https://spidermonkey.dev/blog/2022/05/06/newsletter-firefox-100-101.html | May 07 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spidermonkey.dev | SpiderMonkey Newsletter (Firefox 100-101) | SpiderMonkey JavaScript/WebAssembly Engine | May 07 18:35 | |
| techrights-news | Firefox 100: technological resurrection, popular death http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164392#comment-33569 | May 07 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Firefox 100 Is Now Available for Download, Enables GTK Overlay Scrollbars on Linux | Tux Machines | May 07 18:37 | |
| techrights-news | Wine development release 7.8 is now available. • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164573 | May 07 18:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine development release 7.8 is now available. | Tux Machines | May 07 18:37 | |
| techrights-news | Mac Asay is back to MongoDB? https://www.techrepublic.com/article/appwrites-new-open-source-fund-could-offer-novel-path-sustainability/ | May 07 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Appwrite’s new open-source fund could offer a novel path to sustainability | TechRepublic | May 07 18:38 | |
| psydroid2 | how does this guy keep jobs bouncing from company to company? | May 07 18:39 |
| psydroid2 | always on his Mac | May 07 18:40 |
| matey | #techrights : 05/07/22 17:30 <bnchs> lets use our poorly-written software | May 07 18:40 |
| matey | #techrights : 05/07/22 17:31 <bnchs> with bad english | May 07 18:40 |
| psydroid2 | oh right, he's a manager | May 07 18:40 |
| matey | if ot works well, sure | May 07 18:41 |
| bnchs | i just heard the ping sound play twice at the same time | May 07 18:41 |
| matey | /me figures bnchs is talking about something else again | May 07 18:41 |
| bnchs | now 3 times | May 07 18:41 |
| matey | pulseaudio? | May 07 18:41 |
| techrights-news | "The project is released under The GNU General Public License v3.0 only" https://medevel.com/energize/ | May 07 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | Track your nutrition with this amazing free Android app: Energize | May 07 18:42 | |
| bnchs | nah the sound it plays when someone mentions me | May 07 18:42 |
| matey | oops | May 07 18:42 |
| bnchs | it's nothing | May 07 18:42 |
| matey | :) | May 07 18:42 |
| techrights-news | "VTENEXT is released and distributed under the GNU AFFERO GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 3.0." https://medevel.com/vtenext/ | May 07 18:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | VTENEXT is the Open Source CRM and BPM solution | May 07 18:42 | |
| techrights-news | Missing the classic Opera browser? Try Otter • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164574 | May 07 18:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Missing the classic Opera browser? Try Otter | Tux Machines | May 07 18:43 | |
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| SomeH4x0r | it is not classic Opera. Classic Opera source code is being leaked. | May 07 18:45 |
| SomeH4x0r | Classic Opera is iirc Opera before version 12.18 or something around this. | May 07 18:46 |
| techrights-news | #42 Numerous Emojis - This Week in GNOME • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164575 | May 07 18:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | #42 Numerous Emojis - This Week in GNOME | Tux Machines | May 07 18:46 | |
| SomeH4x0r | Otter does not have own engine afaik, it is either QtWebKit, or Blink. It is once again not the classic Opera. | May 07 18:46 |
| activelow | don't want to use a web browser outside tty context ever again... which leaves w3m, links, lynx and similar | May 07 18:47 |
| techrights-news | "Principal Community Manager"... LOL. Slaveowner? https://opensource.com/article/22/5/open-practice-library-lean-coffee | May 07 18:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Build community engagement by serving up Lean Coffee | Opensource.com | May 07 18:51 | |
| techrights-news | "AWS didn’t listen but, not for the first time, my opinion didn’t seem to matter. (That’s a polite way of saying maybe I was wrong.)" He seems to have left Amazon. https://www.techrepublic.com/article/your-open-source-project-definitely-should-not-next-kubernetes/ | May 07 18:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why your open-source project definitely should not be the next Kubernetes | TechRepublic | May 07 18:52 | |
| techrights-news | System76 Scheduler seeks to improve and optimize the execution of games and applications - LinuxStoney ⚓ https://linuxstoney.com/system76-scheduler-seeks-to-improve-and-optimize-the-execution-of-games-and-applications/ ䷉ Source: linuxstoney | May 07 18:54 |
| matey | stallman made concessions to open source at lieplanet 2022 ii | May 07 18:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System76 Scheduler seeks to improve and optimize the execution of games and applications - LinuxStoney | May 07 18:54 | |
| matey | that was beaten out of him, like a signed confession | May 07 18:54 |
| matey | they were small, explicit and seemed uncontroversial | May 07 18:55 |
| matey | if you ignore years of context at least | May 07 18:55 |
| techrights-news | Bottles developers join the GNOME Foundation http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164573#comment-33570 | May 07 18:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine development release 7.8 is now available. | Tux Machines | May 07 18:55 | |
| matey | this is his purpose now, to undo his own worl | May 07 18:55 |
| matey | work | May 07 18:56 |
| matey | linus merges shit into the kernel | May 07 18:56 |
| matey | stallman merges shit into the fsf | May 07 18:56 |
| matey | thats what they were beaten into. only linus has already sacrificed his integrity, just not enough to please everyone | May 07 18:57 |
| techrights-news | AVMultiPhone is a peculiar MATE-on-phone desktop spin • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164576 | May 07 18:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | AVMultiPhone is a peculiar MATE-on-phone desktop spin | Tux Machines | May 07 18:57 | |
| activelow | i don't agree with blaming lt and rms | May 07 18:57 |
| matey | hes really nothing like stallman at all | May 07 18:57 |
| matey | the real one wouldnt stand for this | May 07 18:57 |
| matey | this happens to prisoners of war | May 07 18:58 |
| techrights-news | "A week ago I attended Linux App Summit (LAS) 2022 in Rovereto, Italy. It was great to finally travel and meet people again, after more than two years. At the same time it would be naive to think the pandemic is over" https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2022/05/07/las-2022-recap.html | May 07 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | Linux App Summit 2022 | May 07 18:58 | |
| matey | stallman is a hostage | May 07 18:58 |
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| matey | the people holding him and beating him (metaphorically) are scum | May 07 18:58 |
| matey | horrible people | May 07 18:58 |
| matey | that he thanks. | May 07 18:59 |
| matey | because he has to | May 07 18:59 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▆▅▅▃▄▅▁▂▅▃▅▅▅▆▆▂▄▁▅▂▃▃▄▅▂▅▂▄▅▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▂█▁▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂█▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 70.65▕ swarm size (avg): 449.58 ⟲ | May 07 18:59 |
| matey | "thank you for co-opting my movement and selling users back to monopolies" | May 07 19:00 |
| activelow | lt and rms represent an era of hacking which is long gone almost entirely | May 07 19:00 |
| matey | "at least your code is under a free license" | May 07 19:00 |
| techrights-news | Latest Linux Kernel Not Working Right? So you can go back • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164577 | May 07 19:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Linux Kernel Not Working Right? So you can go back | Tux Machines | May 07 19:00 | |
| matey | thats not gratitude, its submission | May 07 19:00 |
| matey | stallman is subjugated | May 07 19:00 |
| matey | lieplanet is a celebration of doublespeak and sleaze | May 07 19:01 |
| techrights-news | Imposing Microsoft junk on Gemini protocol? gemini://gemini.marmaladefoo.com/blog/ | May 07 19:02 |
| matey | and conquest in freedoms clothing | May 07 19:02 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22042981 | May 07 19:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/976x549_b/p0299z24.jpg created on 2022-04-29 23:43:17.050035 | May 07 19:02 | |
| matey | might as well call it the u.s.s.f | May 07 19:02 |
| MinceR | GWF -- Gratis Windows Foundation | May 07 19:03 |
| matey | united stolen source foundation | May 07 19:03 |
| techrights-news | Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164578 | May 07 19:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Khadas VIM4 Review - Part 2: Android 11 preview and benchmarks | Tux Machines | May 07 19:03 | |
| MinceR | doesn't need to be free (see systemd) | May 07 19:03 |
| MinceR | and doesn't need to do anything beyond copying the design flaws in windows (again, see systemd) | May 07 19:03 |
| MinceR | but hey, at least it's still a foundation | May 07 19:03 |
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| matey | most people consider a cracked foundation useless | May 07 19:04 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yk8AAHPZpY | May 07 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=8yk8AAHPZpY | May 07 19:04 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, ^ | May 07 19:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10000 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://invidious.privacy.gd/watch?v=8yk8AAHPZpY ) | May 07 19:04 | |
| matey | and in dire need of repair or replacement | May 07 19:04 |
| matey | but lieplanet has a few cans of paint that might do the trick | May 07 19:04 |
| matey | also their uncle owns a paint company, but thats just lucky | May 07 19:05 |
| matey | uncle wingos paint, seed and feed | May 07 19:07 |
| matey | formerly owned by charles u. farley | May 07 19:07 |
| techrights-news | MongoDB: Mac Asay and "Principal Community Manager" • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164579 | May 07 19:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | MongoDB: Mac Asay and "Principal Community Manager" | Tux Machines | May 07 19:07 | |
| techrights-news | Games: Steam and Schedular (Re)Work • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164580 | May 07 19:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Steam and Schedular (Re)Work | Tux Machines | May 07 19:09 | |
| matey | " I do not have a preferred GNU/Linux distro. I recommend all the ethical distros — namely, those that are 100% free software. | May 07 19:10 |
| matey | "I've chosen not to have any preferences among those ethical distros. But I am not in a position to judge them on other criteria: even to try them all would be a lot work that I have no need to do." | May 07 19:10 |
| matey | for a man of logic, the leap should be obvious | May 07 19:10 |
| techrights-news | Free Software: Sandstorm, VTENEXT, and Energize • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164581 | May 07 19:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Free Software: Sandstorm, VTENEXT, and Energize | Tux Machines | May 07 19:10 | |
| DaemonFC | That's one reason why I just kept the Impala around for a while as they fix the rust on the Buick. | May 07 19:10 |
| DaemonFC | I didn't want to rent a car when these companies turn their paying customers over to the police for car theft when they've paid for the rental period and returned the car to the rental company. | May 07 19:11 |
| matey | first rust in the kernel, now on the buick too | May 07 19:11 |
| DaemonFC | There's really no downside to Hertz because it's some customer who goes to jail and gets to sort out felony charges. | May 07 19:11 |
| MinceR | i wonder if there even is a 100% free distro | May 07 19:12 |
| MinceR | the GWF has taken to pushing systemd/Linux distros as if they were free, even though they aren't | May 07 19:12 |
| matey | mincer: sure, just change the freedom constant of the universe so it fits the shit we have now | May 07 19:12 |
| MinceR | :> | May 07 19:12 |
| MinceR | might as well just buy windows or macOS then | May 07 19:12 |
| matey | i call it q/linux | May 07 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Well, one of Red Hat's lawyers was talking about a package that made it into a bunch of FSF-sponsored distributions that had the copyright license stripped and replaced with one claiming to be the public domain. | May 07 19:12 |
| DaemonFC | afio, I think it was. | May 07 19:12 |
| techrights-news | China intends to transfer state institutions and state-owned enterprises to Linux and PCs of local manufacturers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164572#comment-33571 | May 07 19:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | China Orders Government, State Firms to Dump Foreign PCs | Tux Machines | May 07 19:13 | |
| DaemonFC | Some consultant wrote it back in the 80s and it was placed under a non-Free license, and then someone put it on sourceforge in the early 2000s with a "new license" and they didn't actually have the rights to do that. | May 07 19:13 |
| matey | fsdg compliance isnt a bill of health | May 07 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | But Debian snapped it up. | May 07 19:13 |
| matey | its a committment to remove non-free software | May 07 19:13 |
| DaemonFC | And that meant that any distro that based on Debian likely brought it in while they were importing Debian's software repository. | May 07 19:14 |
| DaemonFC | Nobody even knows who has the copyright now. | May 07 19:14 |
| matey | lwn.net/Articles/312262/ | May 07 19:14 |
| matey | In the US, that means the copyright term is "120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever endpoint is earlier." So, again, barring a likely copyright extension, the afio code will pass into the public domain in 2080. Not as bad as 2145, but I really hope our future ape overlords don't need afio in 2080. | May 07 19:14 |
| matey | > Actually, this blog entry is kinda a salute to their progress. There was a time when we'd be debating the presence of Adobe Flash, but now we're down to little old obscure replaceable programs like 'afio'. | May 07 19:15 |
| DaemonFC | Tom Calloway tried to figure it out by contacting HP and Eastman Kodak Company, which may have ended up with the copyright to afio when they bought the consulting firm and then traded it around, but nobody working at either company knew if they owned afio or cared to investigate whether they did or not. | May 07 19:15 |
| matey | If you look on debian, even a version for texlive says that it was (at least somewhat) brought into the requirements dictated by DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines) : 2007.dfsg.1-4. | May 07 19:16 |
| matey | DFSG suffix says that vanilla upstream got some parts stripped out to comply with DFSG. | May 07 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | Fedora actually does investigate whether it's legal or not to ship a package. | May 07 19:16 |
| DaemonFC | So it is easier to base a fully Free distribution on Fedora and know if you're in compliance with the law. | May 07 19:16 |
| matey | except for removing systemd | May 07 19:17 |
| DaemonFC | Further, since Fedora doesn't put the binary firmwares in a million different packages, you could just delete the proprietary firmwares if you wanted to and then repackage whatever you want to keep downstream without creating a huge mess. | May 07 19:17 |
| MinceR | Trash has effectively wormed its way into our web "standards" | May 07 19:17 |
| MinceR | they call it HTML5 now | May 07 19:17 |
| matey | rofl | May 07 19:17 |
| matey | all the more reason to switch to gemini | May 07 19:17 |
| MinceR | it comes with support for DRM and usually also with a nonfree blob from cisco | May 07 19:17 |
| MinceR | yet there's no debate about that | May 07 19:17 |
| matey | because the fsf is fake | May 07 19:17 |
| techrights-news | Intel wants to fix sleep malfunction on Linux laptops https://linuxstoney.com/intel-wants-to-fix-sleep-malfunction-on-linux-laptops/ | May 07 19:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel wants to fix sleep malfunction on Linux laptops - LinuxStoney | May 07 19:17 | |
| MinceR | yeah | May 07 19:18 |
| matey | literally dead | May 07 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | You could remove systemd from Fedora like Devuan did if you wanted to make a fork. | May 07 19:18 |
| matey | the whole thing about doublespeak is | May 07 19:18 |
| matey | you say the right things | May 07 19:18 |
| matey | you dont mean them. | May 07 19:18 |
| MinceR | but hey, at least it doesn't perform like adobe "developers" coded it anymore | May 07 19:18 |
| MinceR | it can do more than 10 fps in a thumbnail without antialiasing, somehow | May 07 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | You don't have to blindly copy the entire package repository of Fedora. | May 07 19:18 |
| matey | You could remove systemd from Fedora like Devuan did <- ive already spent many years jerking off (like devuan did) | May 07 19:18 |
| DaemonFC | You could even do what that one distribution did and drop GTK and GNOME entirely. | May 07 19:19 |
| activelow | systemd+dbus+udev.... good luck | May 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | They had self-contained packages for popular GTK applications in case you did want to run one. | May 07 19:19 |
| matey | and i dont know anything about them removing systemd from fedora, unless you (understandably) are referring to debian as "fedora" | May 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | But today, you could purge everything GTK from your distribution and tell people to use Flatpak if they wanted any of that. | May 07 19:19 |
| matey | <MinceR> it can do more than 10 fps in a thumbnail without antialiasing, somehow <- 8 bit colour on the framebuffer | May 07 19:19 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, it usually works out BETTER to install GTK apps from Flatpak if you use KDE. | May 07 19:19 |
| matey | and with sixels you get over 9000 fps | May 07 19:20 |
| techrights-news | Small-Scale Fab: Make Parts with Free/Open Source Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164582 | May 07 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Small-Scale Fab: Make Parts with Free/Open Source Software | Tux Machines | May 07 19:20 | |
| MinceR | the quake engine already did more | May 07 19:20 |
| MinceR | on the whole screen | May 07 19:20 |
| matey | thats fast enough for nasa to render the space shuttle in 8 bits | May 07 19:20 |
| MinceR | but that's because it wasn't coded by adobe | May 07 19:20 |
| DaemonFC | With Flatpak you know the application will have everything it needs in order to run and the packager usually figures you might be running it on KDE and checks the environment and applies the correct UI settings. | May 07 19:21 |
| matey | With Flatpak you know the application will have everything it needs <- similar to the internet | May 07 19:21 |
| matey | with flatpak i get the warm feeling of... thinking about ibm shoving jews into ovens | May 07 19:21 |
| DaemonFC | Well, with traditional packages they just kind of take a shit all over your preferred desktop environment. | May 07 19:21 |
| MinceR | "similar to bearblasting" | May 07 19:21 |
| matey | maybe warm isnt the right word | May 07 19:21 |
| matey | hot, very hot | May 07 19:21 |
| bnchs | matey: why use sixels | May 07 19:22 |
| matey | because sixels are bigger than jesus | May 07 19:22 |
| bnchs | pity the guy who has to overload the terminal's STDOUT with characters | May 07 19:22 |
| bnchs | just because it was a 4K stream | May 07 19:22 |
| matey | well i use characters for graphics | May 07 19:22 |
| matey | but i just use blocks or even # and then make the font 1 or 2px in size :) | May 07 19:23 |
| matey | as a cheap workaround for pygame selling out | May 07 19:23 |
| bnchs | matey: there's a VO for mpv | May 07 19:23 |
| matey | mpv no, mplayer maybe. | May 07 19:23 |
| bnchs | that prints the video stream as characters to terminal | May 07 19:23 |
| matey | i dont do mpv | May 07 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | I signed up for a new credit card because of all of these big expenses this month. | May 07 19:23 |
| matey | oh you mean libcaca | May 07 19:23 |
| matey | yes mplayer has that too | May 07 19:23 |
| activelow | sixels aren't designed for realtime streaming | May 07 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | It gives me $400 if I put $2,000 through the card in the first 90 days. | May 07 19:23 |
| DaemonFC | So that'll be easy. | May 07 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Then 2% cash back on everything in perpetuity. | May 07 19:24 |
| matey | but when i had the framebuffer i just played video on that | May 07 19:24 |
| bnchs | matey: play a video with mpv with --vo=tct | May 07 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Plus, if I pay my phone bill with that card, it covers the full replacement cost of any phone on that phone bill. | May 07 19:24 |
| matey | again, mplayer, not mpv | May 07 19:24 |
| bnchs | m p v | May 07 19:24 |
| DaemonFC | Or the cost to repair. Whichever is less. | May 07 19:24 |
| matey | https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv | May 07 19:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - mpv-player/mpv: 🎥 Command line video player | May 07 19:25 | |
| matey | i wont use mpv | May 07 19:25 |
| bnchs | just use mplayer | May 07 19:25 |
| matey | i do :) | May 07 19:25 |
| bnchs | with --vo=tct | May 07 19:25 |
| matey | mplayer -vo help | tr "\n" " " | May 07 19:26 |
| matey | Available video output drivers: xv X11/Xv gl_nosw OpenGL no software rendering x11 X11 ( XImage/Shm ) xover General X11 driver for overlay capable video output drivers sdl SDL YUV/RGB/BGR renderer (SDL v1.1.7+ only!) gl | May 07 19:26 |
| matey | OpenGL gl_tiled X11 (OpenGL) - multiple textures version dga DGA ( Direct Graphic Access V2.0 ) matrixview MatrixView (OpenGL) null Null video output mpegpes MPEG-PES file yuv4mpeg yuv4mpeg output for mjpegtools png PNG file jpeg JPEG file gif89a animated GIF output tga Targa output pnm PPM/PGM/PGMYUV file md5sum md5sum of each frame mng MNG file | May 07 19:26 |
| matey | mplayer -vo help | grep tct | wc 0 0 0 | May 07 19:26 |
| bnchs | then it's probably a mpv thing | May 07 19:27 |
| bnchs | the point is it draws each pixel as an ANSI escape code | May 07 19:27 |
| matey | theres way to do that too | May 07 19:27 |
| matey | its just not tct | May 07 19:27 |
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| techrights-news | Edinburgh zoo welcomes two new endangered penguins ⚓ https://planetradio.co.uk/clyde/local/news/edinburgh-zoo-penguins/ Endangered? Then we'll put you in prison to protect you... | May 07 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-planetradio.co.uk | Edinburgh zoo welcomes two new endangered penguins | May 07 19:49 | |
| techrights-news | Super Predator Megaraptor - Largest known dinosaur fossil from the raptor family found in Argentina https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/super-predator-megaraptor-largest-known-dinosaur-fossil-from-the-raptor-family-found-in-argentina-article-91187161 | May 07 19:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timesnownews.com | Super Predator Megaraptor - Largest known dinosaur fossil from the raptor family found in Argentina | May 07 19:51 | |
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| *psydroid2 is calling the FSF the Super Predator Megaraptor Foundation from now on | May 07 19:58 | |
| matey | /s/Super// | May 07 20:00 |
| matey | im partial to bsf | May 07 20:00 |
| matey | but no matter what we call it | May 07 20:00 |
| matey | it still sucks | May 07 20:00 |
| MinceR | lol | May 07 20:08 |
| matey | and organisation turned against itself, its cause and the people it stood for | May 07 20:10 |
| matey | now it corrupts, makes excuses and lies to people | May 07 20:10 |
| matey | and exploits its own founder for show | May 07 20:11 |
| matey | <ross from friends> could it BE any more open source? | May 07 20:12 |
| techrights-news | Fictional market, fictional valuations. https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/thai-stock-market-may-extend-its-losses-on-tuesday | May 07 20:12 |
| matey | /me tries chandler instead | May 07 20:12 |
| matey | ross is annoying, but better him than josh simmons | May 07 20:13 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/cc8zmSs.jpeg | May 07 20:13 |
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| techrights-news | Fictional nonsense https://musically.com/2022/05/05/father-of-the-ipod-tony-fadell-f-the-metaverse/ | May 07 20:15 |
| techrights-news | "2022 Corporate Citizenship Awards"??? WTF is THAT? https://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/news/2022/05/01/corporate-citizenship-awards-a-t-t.html | May 07 20:16 |
| techrights-news | "As a rep from Raspberry Pi Foundation explains, "Coding is one aspect of digital making. When you write code, you are writing instructions for a computer to follow."" https://www.womansday.com/life/entertainment/g39590570/best-coding-websites-games-for-kids/ | May 07 20:17 |
| techrights-news | Proprietary not sustainable https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/04/27/macos-server-adieu | May 07 20:18 |
| matey | josh simmons: stallman is a bigot! | May 07 20:19 |
| matey | also josh simmons: anyone who doesnt like me is a bigot! | May 07 20:20 |
| bnchs | how everyone i hate is a nazi | May 07 20:20 |
| matey | by an ibm supporter who loves irony | May 07 20:20 |
| techrights-news | These people in SCOTUS think they work for Jesus https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/3460420-supreme-court-revisits-prayer-in-school-in-football-coach-case/ | May 07 20:20 |
| psydroid2 | gene simmons: I can't stop loving you! | May 07 20:21 |
| matey | also gene simmons: respect our intellectual property! | May 07 20:21 |
| matey | /me prefers ace frehley, hes less of a dipshit | May 07 20:22 |
| techrights-news | Google #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164583 | May 07 20:22 |
| matey | dont get me wrong, gene simmons is cool looking | May 07 20:22 |
| matey | hes just a dipshit | May 07 20:22 |
| matey | i cant say anything bad (that i know of) about ace, hes amazing | May 07 20:23 |
| matey | same with axl and slash | May 07 20:24 |
| matey | axl: dipshit | May 07 20:25 |
| matey | slash: awesome | May 07 20:25 |
| matey | same with paul and g-- nah, i like paul | May 07 20:25 |
| matey | if hes a dipshit hes an endearing dipshit | May 07 20:25 |
| matey | hes got a birthday in about a month, dont know which one though | May 07 20:26 |
| techrights-news | Wikipedia doesn't want your crypto donations anymore https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/wikimedia-stops-crypto-donations | May 07 20:29 |
| SomeH4x0r | it is too big for my money | May 07 20:31 |
| SomeH4x0r | I dislike big projects | May 07 20:31 |
| techrights-news | Distracting from what actually matter? https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2022/05/why-the-dobbs-leak-is-dangerous | May 07 20:33 |
| techrights-news | RISC-V edges closer to reality: Alibaba close to porting Android to RISC-V • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164584 | May 07 20:34 |
| techrights-news | No fakecoin, thank you... https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/05/26922495/wikipedia-will-stop-accepting-bitcoin-ethereum-after-community-approves-proposal-decrying-digital-as | May 07 20:35 |
| techrights-news | Turing Distinguished Leader Series: Ashu Garg, General Partner, Foundation Capital https://readwrite.com/engineering-leaders-discuss-how-to-build-a-unicorn/ | May 07 20:36 |
| techrights-news | BS acronym https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-python-jobs-developers-should-apply-for-in-faang-companies/ | May 07 20:37 |
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| techrights-news | Proprietary scam https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/intuit-turbotax-settlement | May 07 20:37 |
| techrights-news | Pretending that anything Microsoft does not control simply does not exist https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-trending-open-source-python-projects-on-github/ | May 07 20:38 |
| techrights-news | Steam Deck unboxing and hands-on initial impressions [VIDEO] ⚓ https://chromeunboxed.com/steam-deck-unboxing-hands-on-initial-impressions/ ䷉ Source: chromeunboxed | May 07 20:39 |
| techrights-news | "Avoid Malwarebytes and the others. Let macOS do its job." What job? Lockdown and spying? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/hit-by-dylib-hijack-virus.2343513/ | May 07 20:41 |
| techrights-news | "modernization" as a buzzword Git for Mainframe: Back to the Future | May 07 20:42 |
| techrights-news | But the prices go up, so that's masking the underlying problem https://www.wptv.com/news/state/gas-diapers-essential-items-will-be-tax-free-in-florida | May 07 20:42 |
| psydroid2 | bundling subpar software with overpriced hardware is a win, but for whom? | May 07 20:44 |
| techrights-news | GNU's GIMP https://roboticsandautomationnews.com/2022/05/07/10-professional-level-web-design-tools-to-get-the-ideal-website/50814/ | May 07 20:45 |
| matey | ultimately, both | May 07 20:46 |
| matey | but certainly not all | May 07 20:46 |
| techrights-news | AlmaLinux Now Available on Oracle Cloud http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164521#comment-33572 | May 07 20:47 |
| techrights-news | Android starts playing Nintendo Switch games ⚓ https://theinformant.co.nz/android-starts-playing-nintendo-switch-games/ ䷉ Source: theinformant | May 07 20:48 |
| techrights-news | After US let a million old Americans die with COVID... https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/home-care/info-2022/fixing-long-term-care.html?intcmp=AE-HP-TTN-R2-POS3-REALPOSS-TODAY | May 07 20:49 |
| techrights-news | Surge??? After lockdown? How many are full time? How many have pensions? Corporate media, controlled by the profiteers. https://wraltechwire.com/2022/05/02/help-wanted-ads-dominate-in-triangle-jobs-openings-surge-since-jan/ | May 07 20:49 |
| techrights-news | Pyramid schemes are a problem https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/california-newsom-crypto-regulations | May 07 20:50 |
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| techrights-news | China's answer to GAFAM https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-launches-digital-bus-project-to-level-up-education-sector-in-thailand/ | May 07 20:55 |
| techrights-news | What are the Best Automated Penetration Testing Tools in 2022? - TechStory ⚓ https://techstory.in/what-are-the-best-automated-penetration-testing-tools-in-2022/ ䷉ Source: techstory | May 07 20:55 |
| techrights-news | "SingCERT's Security Bulletin summarises the list of vulnerabilities collated from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)'s National Vulnerability Database (NVD) in the past week." https://www.csa.gov.sg/en/singcert/Alerts/sb-2022-018 | May 07 20:58 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▄▅▆▃▁▃▂▃▂▃▄▂▃▂▃▄▅▆▅▂▄▃▁▃▄▄▂▅▆▆▆▄▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 15.93 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▂▁▂▁██▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 67.35▕ swarm size (avg): 429.25 ⟲ | May 07 20:59 |
| techrights-news | "Big Tech and the corporate media are ushering in an ominous era of intense censorship over Ukraine." https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/28/online-censorship-of-ukraine-dissent-is-becoming-the-new-norm/ | May 07 21:00 |
| techrights-news | Big ISPs just gave up on blocking net neutrality law in CA ⚓ https://www.fastcompany.com/90749582/big-isps-finally-gave-up-on-blocking-californias-landmark-network-neutrality-law ䷉ Source: fastcompany | May 07 21:00 |
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| schestowitz | Liverpool | May 07 21:11 |
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| schestowitz | Tottenham Hotspur | May 07 21:11 |
| schestowitz | 1 | May 07 21:11 |
| schestowitz | :-D | May 07 21:11 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | May 07 21:11 |
| techrights-news | 25+ Vulnerable websites to practice your ethical hacking skills https://thecyphere.com/blog/vulnerable-websites/ | May 07 21:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://thecyphere.com/blog/vulnerable-websites/ ) | May 07 21:13 | |
| techrights-news | Mislseading. Android does not have just one OEM or a monopoly. https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/266633/apple-leads-worldwide-pc-and-tablet-shipments-in-q1-2022 | May 07 21:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://www.thurrott.com/hardware/266633/apple-leads-worldwide-pc-and-tablet-shipments-in-q1-2022 ) | May 07 21:15 | |
| techrights-news | Microsoft can coexist with Apple but not with GNU/Linux. There are several reasons for this. WSL has failed, for 5 years, to "swallow" the threat. | May 07 21:15 |
| techrights-news | Indigenous language key piece in province’s education overhaul https://www.wellandtribune.ca/ts/news/canada/2022/05/04/indigenous-language-key-piece-in-provinces-education-overhaul.html | May 07 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Indigenous language key piece in province’s education overhaul | wellandtribune.ca | May 07 21:16 | |
| techrights-news | "Australian researchers are developing a 3D printed bracelet to allow people living with hand-impairment to easily use computers and play video games." https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/unpublished/sensor-bracelet-designed-to-give-back-control-to-hand-impaired.html | May 07 21:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sydney.edu.au | Sensor bracelet designed to give back control to hand-impaired - The University of Sydney | May 07 21:17 | |
| techrights-news | VESA https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/vesa-launches-industrys-first-open-standard-and-logo-program-for-pc-monitor-and-laptop-display-variable-refresh-rate-performance-for-gaming-and-media-playback-301536830.html | May 07 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | VESA Launches Industry's First Open Standard and Logo Program for PC Monitor and Laptop Display Variable Refresh Rate Performance for Gaming and Media Playback | May 07 21:18 | |
| techrights-news | Making security a gender issue? https://www.wfmz.com/news/pr_newswire/pr_newswire_technology/women-in-cybersecurity-wicys-looking-for-pilot-program-proposals-from-community-colleges-for-cyber-fasttrack/article_65f52a4d-54d1-5cac-b539-a4e17ef05c34.html | May 07 21:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Women in CyberSecurity (WiCyS) looking for pilot program proposals from community colleges for Cyber FastTrack | News | wfmz.com | May 07 21:18 | |
| techrights-news | Proprietary https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/05/03/2434468/0/en/CloudCasa-by-Catalogic-to-Feature-Cyber-Resilient-Kubernetes-Backups-at-KubeCon-CloudNativeCon-Europe-2022.html | May 07 21:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | CloudCasa by Catalogic to Feature Cyber-Resilient | May 07 21:19 | |
| techrights-news | This means more surveillance and likely LESS security too. It's about MORE control... by Microsoft https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/github-open-source-software-security | May 07 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub aims to boost the security of open source software - Protocol | May 07 21:21 | |
| techrights-news | "industry’s highest quality RISC-V processor IP." [sic] https://www.design-reuse.com/news/51862/codasip-siemens-onespin-formal-verification.html | May 07 21:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.design-reuse.com | Codasip adopts Siemens' OneSpin tools for formal verification | May 07 21:26 | |
| techrights-news | They hare women who seek abortion. So why not shun those who are pregnant too? https://uk.style.yahoo.com/katrina-scott-pregnant-sports-illustrated-swimsuit-175719435.html | May 07 21:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-uk.style.yahoo.com | Katrina Scott makes history as the 1st visibly pregnant woman in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit' | May 07 21:27 | |
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| techrights-news | Zero-day bug in uClibc library could leave IoT devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164482#comment-33574 | May 07 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | May 07 21:29 | |
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| techrights-news | Rock Pi 4 Model C+ is more of a minus (less powerful than the Model C, but also cheaper) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164585 | May 07 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Rock Pi 4 Model C+ is more of a minus (less powerful than the Model C, but also cheaper) | Tux Machines | May 07 21:35 | |
| techrights-news | Panasas Debuts New Products, Continues Software Focus ⚓ https://www.enterpriseai.news/2022/05/05/panasas-debuts-new-products-continues-software-focus/ ䷉ Source: enterpriseai | May 07 21:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterpriseai.news | Panasas Debuts New Products, Continues Software Focus | May 07 21:35 | |
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| techrights-news | Leader adds PBX hardware vendor Call4tel • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164586 Debian preloaded | May 07 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Leader adds PBX hardware vendor Call4tel | Tux Machines | May 07 21:40 | |
| techrights-news | Software Heritage: the software Library of Alexandria - Hello Future Orange ⚓ https://hellofuture.orange.com/en/software-heritage-the-software-library-of-alexandria/ ䷉ Source: hellofuture | May 07 21:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hellofuture.orange.com | Software Heritage: the software Library of Alexandria - Hello Future Orange | May 07 21:40 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22042914 | May 07 21:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/169t236xxqv81.jpg created on 2022-04-29 03:50:22.972477 | May 07 21:55 | |
| techrights-news | "Gov. Greg Gianforte’s signature pledge to bring home Montana’s kids and grandkids, now backed by a $700,000 marketing campaign, has run headlong into angst over Montana’s ‘crazy real estate market.’" https://montanafreepress.org/2022/05/06/come-home-montana-reception-mixed/ | May 07 21:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-montanafreepress.org | Come Home Montana recruitment campaign draws mixed reception | May 07 21:56 | |
| techrights-news | #HowTo continue the growth of open source in the UK • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164587 | May 07 22:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to continue the growth of open source in the UK | Tux Machines | May 07 22:02 | |
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| techrights-news | "The code is terrible but I figured I might as well share it. Currently, it has all the features I need. Only thing really missing is client authentication and private directories." gemini://80h.dev/glog/2020-04-28.gemini | May 07 22:11 |
| techrights-news | "sr.ht is pretty cool, no need for annoying pull requests or js" gemini://80h.dev/glog/2020-05-13.gemini | May 07 22:12 |
| techrights-news | "From what I've read I'll basically stare at a computer screen all day unless I'm stuck in the field." gemini://80h.dev/~int/glog/2020-10-03-Army-What.gemini | May 07 22:14 |
| techrights-news | "Earlier this year, my surname appeared on a list at Pontins holiday parks. Published by a whistleblower, the list instructed staff to refuse bookings under my surname (among others) in an attempt to blacklist Gypsy and Traveller families from the site." gemini://caolan.uk/desk/2021-07-08_undesirable_guests.gmi | May 07 22:15 |
| techrights-news | Abandoning Microsoft. "Performance has degraded of late though, and I can't help shake the feeling that investing time in a commercial, MS product is a great idea." gemini://envs.net/~lrb/gemlog/2020-09-19-switching-to-emacs.gmi | May 07 22:16 |
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| techrights-news | "On a private forum today, one of my oldest friends, who is, regrettably, a centrist Democrat, posted a note asking those of us who are critical of Joe Biden to put up or shut up – to tell him what we would have progressives do next, or get the fuck off the forum." gemini://carcosa.net/send-the-nukes/2020-11-03-whatistobedone.gmi | May 07 22:17 |
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| techrights-news | Threat Actor Increases Dwell Time By Targeting Opaque Devices | Decipher ⚓ https://duo.com/decipher/threat-actor-increases-dwell-time-by-targeting-opaque-devices ䷉ Source: duo | May 07 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-duo.com | Threat Actor Increases Dwell Time By Targeting Opaque Devices | Decipher | May 07 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | But clown computing is the opposite of security. It is a data breach, technically speaking. https://thenewstack.io/understand-the-3-ps-of-cloud-native-security/ | May 07 22:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thenewstack.io | Understand the 3 P’s of Cloud Native Security – The New Stack | May 07 22:19 | |
| techrights-news | Now the cranks and charlatans of "web3" (not w3c, the corporate hive) have a "foundation" https://www.securities.io/web3-foundation-partners-with-polkadot-parachain-auction-winners-for-ledger-integration/ | May 07 22:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.securities.io/web3-foundation-partners-with-polkadot-parachain-auction-winners-for-ledger-integration/ ) | May 07 22:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Government’s Clown Journeys" :-) https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220504005055/en/SecurID-Receives-FedRAMP-Moderate-Authorization | May 07 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesswire.com | SecurID Receives FedRAMP Moderate Authorization | Business Wire | May 07 22:21 | |
| activelow | session timeout and screen-locker hacked into abduco terminal session handler... done. | May 07 22:22 |
| techrights-news | Maybe stop outsourcing and choosing proprietary stuff, for starters... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/etr-technology-survey-cites-cybersecurity-125000016.html | May 07 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed to connect to 2001:4998:18:800::4002: Network is unreachable ( status 0 @ https://finance.yahoo.com/news/etr-technology-survey-cites-cybersecurity-125000016.html ) | May 07 22:23 | |
| activelow | another one on todo... limit maximum attached clients to exactly one only; which abduco doesn't as tmux implements it | May 07 22:23 |
| techrights-news | This is a proprietary software problem, too https://warontherocks.com/2022/05/dependency-issues-solving-the-worlds-open-source-software-security-problem/ see http://techrights.org/2022/01/14/white-house-security-theatre/ | May 07 22:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-warontherocks.com | Dependency Issues: Solving the World’s Open-Source Software Security Problem - War on the Rocks | May 07 22:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | White House Asking Proprietary Software Companies That Add NSA Back Doors About Their Views on ‘Open Source’ Security | Techrights | May 07 22:24 | |
| techrights-news | "WMIEXEC tool, which employs Windows Management Instrumentation to create a semi-interactive shell." https://www.securityweek.com/cyberespionage-group-targeting-ma-corporate-transactions-personnel | May 07 22:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Cyberespionage Group Targeting M&A, Corporate Transactions Personnel | SecurityWeek.Com | May 07 22:25 | |
| techrights-news | Should be FTC, not FCC https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10775891/FCC-says-does-not-right-interfere-Elon-Musks-44-billion-Twitter-takeover.html | May 07 22:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | FCC says it does not have the right to interfere in Elon Musk's $44 billion Twitter takeover | Daily Mail Online | May 07 22:26 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/22050754 | May 07 22:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/nn2w2ba9jux81.jpg created on 2022-05-07 21:47:05.892320 | May 07 22:30 | |
| techrights-news | Security Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164588 | May 07 22:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux Machines | May 07 22:36 | |
| techrights-news | Speculation scheme? No thanks... https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/wikimedia-foundation-confirms-that-it-will-no-longer-accept-crypto-donations-080029446.html | May 07 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.yahoo.com | The Wikimedia Foundation won't accept crypto donations anymore | May 07 22:37 | |
| techrights-news | Surveillance jobs https://www.analyticsinsight.net/top-10-ai-skills-that-will-get-you-a-job-in-faang-companies-in-2022/ | May 07 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.analyticsinsight.net | You are being redirected... | May 07 22:38 | |
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| techrights-news | They have managed to skip GNU like it never existed and does not exist https://www.itweb.co.za/content/P3gQ2qGAY8O7nRD1 | May 07 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itweb.co.za | Open source – the gift that keeps on giving | ITWeb | May 07 22:43 | |
| techrights-news | Charlatan and fraud Craig Wright is using the term "Open Source" to promote his lies https://coingeek.com/open-source-and-liability/ | May 07 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Open source and liability - CoinGeek | May 07 22:44 | |
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| techrights-news | "FreeBSD supports both 32- and 64-bit platforms, providing scalable implementation from ARM CPUs up to powerful Xeon CPUs. It has a small footprint, taking up less than 300MB of RAM." https://drivesncontrols.com/news/fullstory.php/aid/7019/Open-source_OS_is_a_low-cost_alternative_to_Windows_for_IPCs.html | May 07 22:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-drivesncontrols.com | Open-source OS is a low-cost alternative to Windows for IPCs - Drives and Controls Magazine | May 07 22:45 | |
| techrights-news | Because now only humans dies of cancer https://finance.yahoo.com/news/petco-love-announces-1-million-121200962.html | May 07 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-finance.yahoo.com | Petco Love Announces $1 Million in New Investments to Fight Pet Cancer | May 07 22:46 | |
| techrights-news | Purdue, Ivy Tech partner on next-generation microelectronics workforce - Purdue University News ⚓ https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2022/Q2/purdue,-ivy-tech-partner-on-next-generation-microelectronics-workforce.html ䷉ Source: purdue | May 07 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.purdue.edu | Purdue, Ivy Tech partner on next-generation microelectronics workforce - Purdue University News | May 07 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | oreilly promoting buzzwords like HEY HI and SCAM like Web3 https://www.oreilly.com/radar/radar-trends-to-watch-may-2022/ | May 07 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oreilly.com | Radar trends to watch: May 2022 – O’Reilly | May 07 22:47 | |
| techrights-news | Linux, but also DRM and surveillance https://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/roku-streaming-stick-4k | May 07 22:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.trustedreviews.com | Roku Streaming Stick 4K review: Plug it in | May 07 22:49 | |
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| techrights-news | But do these tablets run Free software or just spyware controlled by another nation? https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/chandigarh-news/tablets-distributed-among-750-govt-school-students-in-panchkula-101651781584393.html | May 07 22:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hindustantimes.com | Tablets distributed among 750 govt school students in Panchkula - Hindustan Times | May 07 22:50 | |
| techrights-news | On Android, this would be a risk if you run malicious "apps" that want root; or if you update these to inherit new and malicious behaviour https://thehackernews.com/2022/05/google-releases-android-update-to-patch.html | May 07 22:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Google Releases Android Update to Patch Actively Exploited Vulnerability | May 07 22:54 | |
| techrights-news | Nasdaq calls a bubble (fake valuation, fraudulent market) a "bargain" to entice people who have REAL savings to join Wall Street's pyramid scheme with REAL money, not worthless stocks https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/bargain-shopping-3-strong-buy-stocks-that-are-flirting-with-a-bottom | May 07 22:55 |
| techrights-news | Buzzwords in banks https://thefinancialbrand.com/141233/artificial-intelligence-in-banking-top-priorities-for-2022-and-beyond/ | May 07 22:56 |
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| techrights-news | How sleep-deprived see and evaluate others' faces | NSS ⚓ https://www.dovepress.com/how-sleep-deprived-people-see-and-evaluate-others-faces-an-experimenta-peer-reviewed-fulltext-article-NSS ䷉ Source: dovepress | May 07 22:56 |
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| TechrightsBot-tr | Hello World! I'm TechrightsBot-tr running phIRCe v0.77 | May 07 22:57 |
| techrights-news | EU accuses Apple of violating competition laws - Protocol ⚓ https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/eu-apple-pay-wallet-competition "The European Commission sent Apple a "preliminary view" that the company is violating competition laws." | May 07 22:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU accuses Apple of violating competition laws - Protocol | May 07 22:57 | |
| techrights-news | Wanna work in Gulag? No your probably do NOT. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-fires-ai-researcher "after he questioned the validity of a recent paper." | May 07 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google fired AI researcher Satrajit Chatterjee - Protocol | May 07 22:58 | |
| techrights-news | Before Gulag turned pure evil it had tried to recruit me, not once but about three times. http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2006/08/11/interview-with-google/ | May 07 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Second Interview with Google | May 07 23:00 | |
| techrights-news | Seems like far too much complexity and gimmicks. What happens if/when this company goes under? https://www.enterprisestorageforum.com/software/nutanix-aos-storage-review/ | May 07 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enterprisestorageforum.com | Nutanix: AOS Storage Review | Enterprise Storage Forum | May 07 23:01 | |
| techrights-news | Clown computing isn't a feature but marketing. Like "bubbly personality"... | May 07 23:02 |
| techrights-news | Science curtailed by business models https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/technology/tech-companies-business-plans.html | May 07 23:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Good Products and Bad Businesses - The New York Times | May 07 23:03 | |
| techrights-news | Salesforce-owned 'paper' forgot Microsoft? https://www.newsweek.com/2022/05/13/facebook-google-face-regulatory-reckoning-that-may-end-big-tech-dominance-1703179.html | May 07 23:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Facebook, Google Face Regulatory Reckoning That May End Big Tech Dominance | May 07 23:04 | |
| techrights-news | More buzzwords = more diploma mills. "FinOps certification" https://www.techtarget.com/searchcloudcomputing/feature/Explore-options-for-FinOps-certifications-and-training | May 07 23:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.techtarget.com | Explore options for FinOps certifications and training | May 07 23:05 | |
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| techrights-news | This might be a plagiarism site, but it's funny nonetheless https://nairametrics.com/2022/05/06/microsoft-advises-users-to-uninstall-windows-11-update/ | May 07 23:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft advises users to uninstall Windows 11 update - Nairametrics | May 07 23:07 | |
| matey | psydruid another ancient timesharing os: TSO? for the ibm 360 (old 1960s mainframe) | May 07 23:08 |
| techrights-news | Larry Ellison, Saudi Regime, Musk... promoted here in the Bezos Post. The plutocrats take direct control of the communications of so many people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/05/05/musk-twitter-financing-ellison/ | May 07 23:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Musk lines up more than $7 billion in investor financing for Twitter deal - The Washington Post | May 07 23:08 | |
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| matey | general (ive posted this before) https://yewtu.be/watch?v=UYb6WqWBTE0 | May 07 23:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Mark Allen - Before Unix: An Early History of Timesharing Systems - Invidious | May 07 23:09 | |
| techrights-news | Open-source with dash typically means it is fake https://venturebeat.com/2022/05/05/meet-logseq-an-open-source-knowledge-management-system-that-stores-data-like-a-brain/ | May 07 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Meet Logseq, an open-source knowledge management system that 'stores data like a brain' | VentureBeat | May 07 23:10 | |
| psydruid | matey, it's good to know about it | May 07 23:10 |
| matey | 360: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=npgvV_-Nh60 (probably has nothing about tso because it wasnt only a timesharing system, it also did batch processing) | May 07 23:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | COMPUTER HISTORY: REMEMBERING THE IBM SYSTEM/360 MAINFRAME, its Origin and Technology (IRS, NASA) - Invidious | May 07 23:10 | |
| matey | no idea what this is but im going to watch anyway https://yewtu.be/watch?v=OWwzQyXAvXI | May 07 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | One of the Biggest Frauds in Tech History - The Miniscribe Brick Fiasco - Invidious | May 07 23:11 | |
| techrights-news | Windows EXperiment https://gizmodo.com/windows-11-update-causing-apps-to-crash-how-to-uninstal-1848884560 | May 07 23:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Windows 11 Update Causing Apps to Crash—How to Uninstall | May 07 23:11 | |
| matey | and its hard to find stuff on 1960s tso because they still use that acronym related somehow to z/os (modern) and maybe ariadne knows more about it | May 07 23:12 |
| techrights-news | "In the United States (US), two key antitrust laws are in place—i.e., the Sherman Act and the Clayton Act—to curb anti-competitive activities." https://www.orfonline.org/research/competition-law-in-the-digital-space/ | May 07 23:12 |
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| matey | but would probably just laugh since she has better software to run on one (and better mainframes, and shes not into that level of retrocomputing afaik) | May 07 23:12 |
| matey | i have no personal interest in running a mainframe obviously, im interested in old timesharing systems | May 07 23:13 |
| matey | at least knowing bits and bobs about them | May 07 23:13 |
| DaemonFC | Oh this is great. Acording to GEICO's app I drove through several fields, a retention pond, and some buildings. | May 07 23:13 |
| techrights-news | Taking back control: new 3D printed bracelet empowers the hand-impaired to play video games - 3D Printing Industry ⚓ https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/taking-back-control-new-3d-printed-bracelet-empowers-the-hand-impaired-to-play-video-games-208904/ ䷉ Source: 3dprintingindustry | May 07 23:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-3dprintingindustry.com | Taking back control: new 3D printed bracelet empowers the hand-impaired to play video games - 3D Printing Industry | May 07 23:13 | |
| matey | hooray for gps and insurance companies | May 07 23:13 |
| matey | on the plus side you can get a telsa and make up the difference in insurance premiums :) | May 07 23:13 |
| techrights-news | LOLOLOLOLO!!! "Web3... GAMING" https://news.bitcoin.com/mexc-global-officially-lists-leader-in-web-3%E2%80%A40-gaming-unix-gaming/ does it also do smart HEY HI stuff on the clown? | May 07 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.bitcoin.com | MEXC Global Officially Lists Leader in Web 3․0 Gaming - UniX Gaming! – Press release Bitcoin News | May 07 23:14 | |
| matey | (a telsa i guess, is a cheap knockoff version of a tesla, and it comes with a free bolex watch) | May 07 23:14 |
| techrights-news | Meet the real new bosses of Twitter https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2022/05/05/elon-musk-gets-help-from-techies-saudi-prince-and-crypto-king-in-bid-to-own-twitter/ | May 07 23:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.adn.com | Elon Musk gets help from techies, Saudi prince and crypto king in bid to own Twitter | May 07 23:14 | |
| psydruid | mainframe architecture may be interesting, but I don't have much interest in IBM's implementation either | May 07 23:14 |
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| bnchs | https://www.adn.com/nation-world/2022/05/05/elon-musk-gets-help-from-techies-saudi-prince-and-crypto-king-in-bid-to-own-twitter/ | May 07 23:14 |
| matey | im only interested in the comparisons | May 07 23:14 |
| -bnchsbot/#techrights-www.adn.com | Elon Musk gets help from techies, Saudi prince and crypto king in bid to own Twitter | May 07 23:14 | |
| matey | i dont want to convert to scientology either, but its interesting to compare it to other cults | May 07 23:15 |
| techrights-news | "Why cite the Reporters Without Borders report on the lack of press freedom in India when your humourists are being targeted?" https://www.freepressjournal.in/analysis/india-isnt-a-safe-place-for-comedians-either-writes-anil-singh | May 07 23:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in | India isn't a safe place for comedians either, writes Anil Singh | May 07 23:15 | |
| -bnchsbot/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in [cloudflare] | India isn't a safe place for comedians either, writes Anil Singh | May 07 23:15 | |
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| techrights-news | Microsoft booster on ICBM BLUE POWER https://www.networkworld.com/article/3660050/ibm-announces-first-major-update-to-power9-servers-in-three-years.html | May 07 23:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.networkworld.com | IBM announces first major update to Power9 servers in three years | Network World | May 07 23:16 | |
| psydruid | OpenWalletPOWER | May 07 23:17 |
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| bnchs | https://www.freepressjournal.in/analysis/india-isnt-a-safe-place-for-comedians-either-writes-anil-singh | May 07 23:17 |
| -bnchsbot/#techrights-www.freepressjournal.in [cloudflare] | India isn't a safe place for comedians either, writes Anil Singh | May 07 23:17 | |
| techrights-news | "Computer scientists Alfred Aho and Toniann Pitassi, mathematician Michael Harris, and sociologist Mario Small join this year’s class of new members." https://news.columbia.edu/news/four-columbians-elected-national-academy-sciences | May 07 23:18 |
| -bnchsbot/#techrights-news.columbia.edu [cloudflare] | Four Columbians Elected to the National Academy of Sciences | Columbia News | May 07 23:18 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.columbia.edu | Four Columbians Elected to the National Academy of Sciences | Columbia News | May 07 23:18 | |
| techrights-news | LOL. Total crock: "Web2 & Web3" https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/05/03/2434094/0/en/Delysium-kicks-off-the-largest-ever-Pre-Alpha-Test-involving-professional-gamers-from-both-Web2-Web3.html | May 07 23:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Delysium kicks off the largest-ever Pre-Alpha Test | May 07 23:19 | |
| -bnchsbot/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Delysium kicks off the largest-ever Pre-Alpha Test | May 07 23:19 | |
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| bnchs | took the bot for a test drive a bit | May 07 23:19 |
| bnchs | i hope you guys didn't mind | May 07 23:19 |
| psydruid | no, it's great | May 07 23:19 |
| psydruid | I hope the driver survives the test drive, though | May 07 23:20 |
| techrights-news | IBM-sponsored writer Timothy Prickett Morgan composes some word salad about "Hey Hi https://www.nextplatform.com/2022/04/28/the-hyperscalers-point-the-way-to-integrated-ai-stacks/ | May 07 23:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | The Hyperscalers Point The Way To Integrated AI Stacks | May 07 23:20 | |
| bnchs | i did a CTRL-C :) | May 07 23:20 |
| psydruid | we can't have more of those Tesla incidents | May 07 23:20 |
| matey | Where was the need to rely on the global index published by the Paris-based Reporters Without Borders when hundreds of your own brethren are being locked up under trumped-up charges ranging from sedition to spreading infectious diseases? And, why look at journalists when humourists are being targeted. Vir Das, Munawar Faruqui, Kunal Kamra, Shyam Rangeela… the list of comics in trouble for speaking about the emperor’s wardrobe malfunction is growing | May 07 23:21 |
| techrights-news | "debate DevOps versus MLOps"... don't forget SmartOps and Web3Ops... https://www.madrona.com/founded-and-funded-ia40-hugging-face-clem-delangue-octoml-luis-ceze-foundation-models-open-source-bias-detection/ | May 07 23:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Founded and Funded IA40 Winner Spotlight: Hugging Face CEO Clem Delangue and OctoML CEO Luis Ceze on foundation models, open source, and transparency - Madrona Venture Group | May 07 23:22 | |
| matey | sooner or later people are going to figure out that no emperor has ever worn clothes | May 07 23:22 |
| matey | and the whole thing is a complete farce | May 07 23:23 |
| matey | Faruqui, in fact, said nothing. He was arrested before he could even crack a joke. Thought police? The stand-up comedian was released from captivity after two months when the police could no longer justify his arrest for ‘hurting religious sentiments’. | May 07 23:23 |
| matey | i hope he was banned from lieplanet too. they love this sort of thing. | May 07 23:23 |
| matey | the very idea of them talking about freedom, when they present this sort of petty autocracy as "freedom" it should make people vomit. | May 07 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | OpenWallet.BuyPower(); | May 07 23:24 |
| matey | comparisons aside, im equally interested in the actual story here | May 07 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | "IBM, can we speak of black power?" | May 07 23:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | IBM: It's POWER! All CAPS!!!! | May 07 23:24 |
| matey | i cared about comedy before i cared about free software | May 07 23:24 |
| matey | ALL CAPS TO THE MONOPOLIES | May 07 23:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | "OK, OK... no need toi get all grammar nazi about it..." | May 07 23:25 |
| matey | FORWARD, TO INCORPORATION | May 07 23:25 |
| bnchs | it's called OpenWallet | May 07 23:25 |
| bnchs | open your fucking wallets bitch | May 07 23:25 |
| matey | godwins second law was that the more english majors are present, the faster godwins first law gets cited | May 07 23:26 |
| matey | after that, he was tragically killed by ACTUAL NAZIS | May 07 23:26 |
| techrights-news | Wine 7.8 is out now with X11 and OSS drivers... http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164573#comment-33579 | May 07 23:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine development release 7.8 is now available. | Tux Machines | May 07 23:26 | |
| matey | With this kind of notoriety, the Bengaluru police did not allow Faruqui to hold shows for fear of right-wing violence. For good measure, they kept out Kamra too; perhaps they feared a laugh riot. | May 07 23:27 |
| matey | :) laugh rioting is a federal offence | May 07 23:27 |
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| matey | Another stand-up, Vir Das had FIRs registered against him across the country for a six-minute monologue on the contradictions in India. | May 07 23:27 |
| matey | he was kept in solitary confinement and fed only BITCH LASAGNA for weeks | May 07 23:27 |
| bnchs | virfield | May 07 23:28 |
| techrights-news | foss – vanitasvitae's blog: Europe Trip Journal – Entry 5: Bonsoir https://blog.jabberhead.tk/2022/05/07/europe-trip-journal-entry-5-working-title/ | May 07 23:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jabberhead.tk | Europe Trip Journal – Entry 5: Bonsoir – vanitasvitae's blog | May 07 23:28 | |
| matey | What is the need to harp on the findings of a foreign agency when Indian journalists like Aakar Patel and Rana Ayyub have look-out notices for them at airports while big-time economic offenders such as Vijay Mallya and Nirav Modi fly out with 80 suitcases? | May 07 23:28 |
| matey | "We are a nation that sends gangsters to Parliament and gagsters to prison." | May 07 23:29 |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164589 | May 07 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | May 07 23:30 | |
| techrights-news | "It's finally happening, I'm finally moving out of my current place and into a place with one of my good mates, here I'll have so much more space but right now nothing is finished. My room/studio isn't finished is neither is most of the house but it will be soon enough." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=IhHo6ExDgKE | May 07 23:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Welcome To My New House & Studio Planning - Invidious | May 07 23:30 | |
| matey | stalin couldnt take a joke either | May 07 23:31 |
| matey | too many of those in office now | May 07 23:31 |
| matey | like the world is being taunted | May 07 23:31 |
| bnchs | matey: whats the difference of that and modern social media | May 07 23:31 |
| bnchs | stalin and modern social media* | May 07 23:31 |
| bnchs | they can't take a joke | May 07 23:31 |
| matey | its the same mindset, different applications | May 07 23:32 |
| matey | stalin was (probabl) killed by his own people | May 07 23:32 |
| matey | it was fair, it was self-defence | May 07 23:32 |
| matey | they should have done it sooner | May 07 23:32 |
| matey | people become insane with power, they see only enemies in their closest allies | May 07 23:33 |
| matey | they try to destroy everyone, but sooner or later enough people are pissed off about it | May 07 23:33 |
| matey | that they retaliate-- and then its done | May 07 23:33 |
| matey | until people forget enough history to let it happen all over again | May 07 23:33 |
| matey | history is one of the ultimately defensive weapons | May 07 23:34 |
| matey | thats why so many bastards try to rewrite it | May 07 23:34 |
| matey | ultimate s/ly// | May 07 23:34 |
| matey | heres my favourite line of the article | May 07 23:35 |
| matey | If our mainstream press was not playing a “both-sides game” to appear objective, it would rebut the government’s claim with facts and figures. | May 07 23:35 |
| matey | hmm :) | May 07 23:35 |
| matey | i REALLY like that line | May 07 23:35 |
| matey | im completely in love with that line | May 07 23:35 |
| bnchs | why don't you marry it | May 07 23:35 |
| matey | i was considering it, but honestly i have a better prospect than even that | May 07 23:36 |
| bnchs | don't worry i'll won't judge :3 | May 07 23:36 |
| matey | oh im not against it | May 07 23:36 |
| matey | but with todays copyright laws i doubt i could even get a marriage license | May 07 23:36 |
| techrights-news | "I've always argued that the standard command line installation of Arch Linux is easy and anyone can do it (seriously!). But many people fear command line installations, so Arch Linux now comes with a guided menu-based install script that is as easy-to-use as the Ubiquity installer or the Calamares installer." https://yewtu.be/watch?v=leQbSsu-7F4 | May 07 23:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Install Arch Linux The Easy Way With The Official Install Script - Invidious | May 07 23:37 | |
| bnchs | the same official install script | May 07 23:37 |
| bnchs | that has systemd-bootctl as a choice of bootloader | May 07 23:37 |
| bnchs | eugghhhhh | May 07 23:37 |
| matey | /me prefers systemd-bootsycollins | May 07 23:37 |
| bnchs | i'll poison poettering's drinks with ibuprofen | May 07 23:38 |
| matey | /me tries to make bootsy glasses with ascii but it looks too much like something else | May 07 23:38 |
| matey | no just make a laser move up a table towards him | May 07 23:39 |
| matey | and to deactivate it has to shut down a distro running systemd properly | May 07 23:39 |
| bnchs | matey: oh god | May 07 23:40 |
| bnchs | KADUITD | May 07 23:41 |
| bnchs | CALLBACKS SURPRESSED | May 07 23:41 |
| matey | honestly, if i could go back in time and prevent systemd from being released into the world, i wouldnt | May 07 23:42 |
| matey | but-- i WOULD change the pisspoor responses to it instead | May 07 23:43 |
| techrights-news | Published deb-get utility, offering apt-get-like functionality for third-party packages http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164481#comment-33580 | May 07 23:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Deb-Get is ’Apt-Get’ for 3rd-Party Ubuntu Software | Tux Machines | May 07 23:43 | |
| matey | that part i would fix | May 07 23:43 |
| bnchs | "systemd-homed is not available" | May 07 23:44 |
| bnchs | AAAAAAAAAAA | May 07 23:44 |
| bnchs | OH MY FUCkING GOODDDD | May 07 23:44 |
| techrights-news | Audiocasts/Shows: Arch Linux, House Move, Steam Deck, and Ubuntu 22.04 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164590 | May 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Audiocasts/Shows: Arch Linux, House Move, Steam Deck, and Ubuntu 22.04 | Tux Machines | May 07 23:45 | |
| matey | systemd-omfgd | May 07 23:45 |
| techrights-news | SparkyLinux 6.3 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/164591 | May 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | SparkyLinux 6.3 | Tux Machines | May 07 23:45 | |
| techrights-news | The OSes are proprietary, this is just Apple taking code of others https://linuxstoney.com/apple-has-published-the-code-for-the-kernel-and-system-components-of-macos-12-3/ | May 07 23:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple has published the code for the kernel and system components of macOS 12.3 - LinuxStoney | May 07 23:45 | |
| matey | ibmd-takeoverd | May 07 23:46 |
| techrights-news | "Please reach out to us on our discord"?????? https://medevel.com/ustaxes/ | May 07 23:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medevel.com | UsTaxes is an open-source free tax filing app for USA | May 07 23:46 | |
| matey | movezig-takeoffeveryzigd | May 07 23:46 |
| matey | gentoo you have no chance to survive, make your time | May 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | removing systemd is a HATE CRIME | May 07 23:47 |
| matey | against josh simmons, personally | May 07 23:47 |
| matey | if you dont like josh simmons, you hate gay people | May 07 23:47 |
| bnchs | i'm gonna switch to openrc | May 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | no | May 07 23:47 |
| psydruid | vendors of closed source software want you to run it on closed source operating systems | May 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | you got it WRONG | May 07 23:47 |
| psydruid | news at 11 | May 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | if you don;t like OSI | May 07 23:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | i.e. large corporation | May 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | then you hold homophobic views | May 07 23:48 |
| *bnchsbot (~bnchsbot@2a6mwvt4j7cdn.irc) has joined #techrights | May 07 23:48 | |
| matey | i didnt know osi was gay | May 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | I didn't even know simmons was | May 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | it was a straw man | May 07 23:48 |
| *bnchsbot has quit (connection closed) | May 07 23:48 | |
| matey | i mean, it was started by bruce perens and eric-- OH... | May 07 23:48 |
| matey | no one ever told me | May 07 23:48 |
| schestowitz-TR | rianne saw a video olf phipps yesterday | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | said he looked like a trans woman | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | I could not disagree | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | in fact I thought the same just minutes before she said it | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | but phipps is OK | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | relativbely speaking | May 07 23:49 |
| schestowitz-TR | compared to the people who took over OSI | May 07 23:49 |
| *psydruid makes jokes about gene simmons because he doesn't know who josh simmons is, so he imagines him to be some kind of rockstar too | May 07 23:50 | |
| matey | i dont think phipps "looks trans" | May 07 23:50 |
| *Skywave (~SkywaveC3@gbgr2jcp6yrt2.irc) has joined #techrights | May 07 23:50 | |
| matey | i think he has a shitty haircut though | May 07 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | we saw a recent video | May 07 23:50 |
| schestowitz-TR | he had gained some weight | May 07 23:50 |
| matey | gene simmons and josh simmons are both narcissistic fuckwits obsessed with money and intellectual property | May 07 23:51 |
| matey | only one worked for osi and the other was in a (relatively) cool rock band | May 07 23:51 |
| schestowitz-TR | wait, gene simmons sued? | May 07 23:51 |
| matey | i dont hate the band, i just dont like simmons | May 07 23:51 |
| matey | i dont know if he sued anyone, i know that hes on the shill side of the industry | May 07 23:51 |
| matey | and the band is alright. | May 07 23:51 |
| matey | and as a performer, simmons is okay, i simply dont like him much as a person | May 07 23:52 |
| matey | hes very much the "business sense" of k.i.s.s. | May 07 23:52 |
| matey | and by business i mean industry | May 07 23:52 |
| matey | as in the one that fucks over artists for profit | May 07 23:53 |
| matey | but some win the industry lottery, so to speak | May 07 23:53 |
| matey | the record industry and software industry play pretty much by the same rules | May 07 23:53 |
| matey | the head of the riaa could have come out and said ARTISTS! ARTISTS! ARTISTS! ARTISTS! | May 07 23:54 |
| matey | ARTISTS! ARTISTS! ARTISTS! ARTISTS! | May 07 23:54 |
| matey | its the same scam | May 07 23:54 |
| *psydruid barely even knows the band | May 07 23:54 | |
| matey | they dont give a shit about artists, and microsoft doesnt give a shit about developers | May 07 23:54 |
| matey | rather they pit artists against fans for their own purposes | May 07 23:54 |
| matey | and microsoft pits developers against users | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | not because it cares | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | its all about their business (exploitation) model | May 07 23:55 |
| psydruid | until users become developers too | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | well by that time, theyre supposed to work against users | May 07 23:55 |
| psydruid | they're just different hats people wear | May 07 23:55 |
| psydruid | yes | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | thats what developers do (in microsoft land) | May 07 23:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | how about richard simmons? | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | its a dichotomy for sure | May 07 23:55 |
| matey | richard simmons got too old to sweat to the oldies anymore | May 07 23:56 |
| matey | i think hes a lovely person | May 07 23:56 |
| matey | osi would have been much cooler (and more gay) with him at the helm than josh simmons | May 07 23:56 |
| psydruid | "I was once in the user camp, but I switched allegiance to the developer camp" | May 07 23:56 |
| matey | i dont think he ever came out of the closet by the way | May 07 23:56 |
| matey | instead he just spent his entire career trolling people about it | May 07 23:57 |
| matey | i think hes probably as gay as liberace. but if he deosnt want to come out, and prefers to have everything but one toe out of the closet for decaes | May 07 23:57 |
| matey | i mean its his right tbh | May 07 23:57 |
| bnchs | if i had a time machine | May 07 23:57 |
| bnchs | i would have taken away poettering's internet | May 07 23:57 |
| psydruid | an open letter to users becoming developers | May 07 23:58 |
| psydruid | someone enabled poettering | May 07 23:58 |
| matey | red hat | May 07 23:58 |
| matey | now ibm | May 07 23:58 |
| psydruid | he couldn't have done this in isolation | May 07 23:58 |
| matey | and i want to say novell | May 07 23:58 |
| matey | funnily enuoguh | May 07 23:58 |
| psydruid | else we would be saying "poettering, qui est-ce que c'est" | May 07 23:59 |
| matey | there might be crossed wires here, but i swear that somehow, gkh is involved | May 07 23:59 |
| psydruid | and sending a psycho killer after him | May 07 23:59 |
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