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| schestowitz | SFC? Wait. | Oct 07 01:35 |
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| schestowitz | Platinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman http://techrights.org/2020/04/30/copyleft-conf-2020/ where SFC money comes from | Oct 07 01:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Platinum (Top) Sponsors of Copyleft Conf Are Companies That Attack Copyleft’s Father, Richard Stallman | Techrights | Oct 07 01:38 | |
| schestowitz | "We'd rather see Kuhn stepping down (than Stallman stepping down). The Software Freedom Conservancy is not essential" http://techrights.org/2019/09/16/stallman-removed/ | Oct 07 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | As Richard Stallman Resigns Let’s Consider Why GNU/Linux Without Stallman and Torvalds Would be a Victory to Microsoft | Techrights | Oct 07 01:39 | |
| schestowitz | "SFC IRS A breakdown of the finances." http://techrights.org/2020/09/05/big-sponsors-dilemma/ | Oct 07 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Big Money Can Do Big Damage to Membership-Dependent Organisations (Which Should Remain Accountable to Members, Not Big Sponsors) | Techrights | Oct 07 01:41 | |
| schestowitz | General Manager of Open Source Initiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events http://techrights.org/2020/08/21/osi-gm/ | Oct 07 01:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | General Manager of Open Source Initiative (OSI) Brought Microsoft Money to the Conservancy for Two Years in a Row, Letting a Copyleft Foe and GPL Violator Buy Keynote Talks in Copyleft Events | Techrights | Oct 07 01:43 | |
| schestowitz | "Microsoft money while she was in charge of Copyleft Conf, both in 2019 and in 2020 (shortly before and also some time after receiving an award from FSF (RMS, personally))." http://techrights.org/2020/08/23/back-stabbing-richard-stallman/ | Oct 07 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Leak: Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Betrayed by Matthias Kirschner’s FSFE, Which Closely Connected With People Who Attack Stallman | Techrights | Oct 07 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | chaekyung: I can dig up more, there's no single wiki page about it | Oct 07 01:46 |
| schestowitz | SFC is nowhere as bad as OSI or LF | Oct 07 01:46 |
| chaekyung | That's plenty for tomorrow, thanks | Oct 07 02:00 |
| chaekyung | https://linuxreviews.org/Software_Freedom_Conservancy is what I made so far. not much. It's interesting that it's not a very big one | Oct 07 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Software Freedom Conservancy - LinuxReviews | Oct 07 02:01 | |
| chaekyung | seems mostly harmless | Oct 07 02:01 |
| chaekyung | by that I mean it's not a 50 or 100 million enterprise, it's a 2.7m/year organization. So it's not all that well-funded compared to .. others. | Oct 07 02:02 |
| schestowitz | yes, this is why I don't pick on them much | Oct 07 02:03 |
| schestowitz | I've just linked to this | Oct 07 02:04 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.itwire.com/outsourcing/us-announces-fresh-restrictions-on-h-1b-visas.html | Oct 07 02:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-iTWire - US announces fresh restrictions on H-1B visas | Oct 07 02:12 | |
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| schestowitz | ">Below we publish the first full transcript of Bill Gates' video testimony. All Gates' words are uttered under oath, so they must be true, so the Bill Gates memos produced by DoJ attorney David Boies afterwards which appear to contradict him can't be. Presumably. Gates shows little sign of having been well-briefed for the deposition by Microsoft lawyers. It is quite likely that Gates refused advice - this is of constant concern to his | Oct 07 04:22 |
| schestowitz | PR handlers. It may well turn out, if the performance he produced on Monday is typical, that the greatest single factor causing Microsoft to lose the case will be Gates' performance. Gates' had a mantra for the part of the deposition about Intel: the words were "low quality" and "incompatible" for Intel software. His vehemence, and other evidence, suggests that the opposite may be true: Intel's software was a considerable threat to | Oct 07 04:22 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft, as we shall detail in due course. Outside the courtroom, Boies said that Microsoft deliberately tried to stop Intel from competing because its software quality was good, not poor. In many of the exchanges which follow, Gates paused for up to 25 seconds, staring down at the table: Boies: Did Microsoft make any effort to convince Intel not to help Sun and Java? Gates: Not that I know of. Boies: Did you or anyone at Microsoft | Oct 07 04:22 |
| schestowitz | attempt to convince Intel not to engage in any software activity? [Microsoft lawyer Heiner objected, but Gates responded] Gates: No. Boies: Did you or, to your knowledge, anyone at Microsoft try to convince Intel that it should not engage in any software activity unless Microsoft was involved in that activity? Gates: I'm sure we pointed out sometimes how sometimes a lack of communications between the two companies on various subjects | Oct 07 04:22 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.theregister.com/1998/11/10/gates_under_the_grill/ | Oct 07 04:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Gates under the grill – the full transcript • The Register | Oct 07 04:22 | |
| schestowitz | " Outside the courtroom, Boies said that Microsoft deliberately tried to stop Intel from competing because its software quality was good, not poor." | Oct 07 04:23 |
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| schestowitz | chaekyung: good to see patent coverage also https://linuxreviews.org/US-China_DRAM_Patent_War_Rumored_To_Be_Escalating | Oct 07 05:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | US-China DRAM Patent War Rumored To Be Escalating - LinuxReviews | Oct 07 05:30 | |
| schestowitz | see https://patentlyo.com/patent/2020/10/2-billion-judgment.html | Oct 07 05:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | $2 billion judgment | Patently-O | Oct 07 05:30 | |
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| schestowitz | open question to all: any OCR gurus here? | Oct 07 09:08 |
| schestowitz | we need to convert these PDFs into text somehow, based on the many PDFs (almost a hundred I think) https://www.justice.gov/atr/usdoj-antitrust-division-us-v-microsoft-corporation-browser-and-middleware-deposition | Oct 07 09:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.justice.gov | U.S. v. Microsoft Corporation [Browser and Middleware] Deposition Transcripts | Oct 07 09:09 | |
| schestowitz | >> CoC isn't a new concept. | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > There are at least two non-exclusive concepts involved and harmfully | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > conflated under the rubrik of CoC. People confuse the two, often on | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > purpose, to cause strife. The first is the superficial stated cause of | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > being enhanced rules of order with the goal of increased unity and | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > cohesion. The other is actually the opposite, and it is a weapon by | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > which opponents can be removed in spite of, or because of, superior | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > technical merit and domain expertise. | Oct 07 09:14 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:14 |
| kingoffrance | its not new its corporate law | Oct 07 09:37 |
| kingoffrance | what every corp probably does | Oct 07 09:37 |
| kingoffrance | their internal by laws | Oct 07 09:37 |
| kingoffrance | rules for employees etc. | Oct 07 09:37 |
| kingoffrance | its just usually internal codes for employees | Oct 07 09:37 |
| kingoffrance | thats why you dont get for example a "jury" | Oct 07 09:38 |
| kingoffrance | because its assumed you 'volunteered' | Oct 07 09:38 |
| kingoffrance | and hence waived that | Oct 07 09:38 |
| kingoffrance | you can consent to waive what normal law might give you | Oct 07 09:38 |
| kingoffrance | equity is a #$@$#$ | Oct 07 09:40 |
| kingoffrance | because its assumed you knowingly made a contract | Oct 07 09:40 |
| kingoffrance | and hence other law doesnt apply (unless e.g. fraud can be shown) -- all that matters is are you following what you agreed to or not | Oct 07 09:41 |
| schestowitz | I wonder if the texts can be further refined, I've added <hr> as page separators, but without endless manual work it's hard to improve clarity | Oct 07 09:44 |
| kingoffrance | in that light they are totally normal -- its just usually you are getting paid to follow them | Oct 07 09:49 |
| kingoffrance | part of your employment terms | Oct 07 09:49 |
| schestowitz | Re: What kind of crap is this? | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | >> OpenBSD also has a monolithic kernel, so | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > So nothing. Practically every working OS has a monolithic kernel. What's | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > different between BSD and Linux is that Linux never gets forked, it only | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > gets worse. BSD gets forked and different groups of maintainers all the | Oct 07 09:53 |
| schestowitz | > time. | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > Perhaps he's implying that Hurd is worth something. Okay-- what? What is | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > Hurd actually worth, to anybody? Seriously, does anybody think Hurd is | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > going to be a thing in the next TEN years? I don't. GNU/Linux started | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > going in the toilet in 2014-2015, at the latest. If SMN wants to wait | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > another 10 for viable software, good on him. | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > To wit, nobody is forking Hurd (or GNU) so there's no way to save it | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > from political problems. Lead Hurd dev is anti-rms, so fuck that guy. | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > People are entitled to their opinions of course. But given the evilness | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > of what happens, IMO it's difficult to attack rms for what happened, and | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > NOT be endorsing corporate control of projects by bribery and bullshit. | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:54 |
| schestowitz | > So lead Hurd dev is corrupt. He many not be bribed, he may not be evil-- | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > but politically, he is a doormat for evil. He stands for nothing. That | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > doesn't have to make Hurd politically useless, but until there is some | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > drastic change, it does. You don't want a project that is going to | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > itself become a doormat for evil. That's what Linux (the kernel) is now, | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > and that's what Hurd is until further notice. TBH that's also what Emacs | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > is turning into. The people responsible for Emacs appear to be traitors | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > and scum. They're hardly better than thieves. Please, prove me wrong. I | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > don't love all this bad news, but I refuse to pretend it's good news | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > like most people (Hurd lead dev) do. | Oct 07 09:55 |
| schestowitz | > The problem with GNU (which I support and encourage) is that it's being | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > taken over the same way the FSF was. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > In 2017 when we talked about the erosion at the FSF, it seemed more | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > hypothetical, destined by principle, but even if the writing was on the | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > wall it seemed a bit crazy to consider it-- even with good reason to. It | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > was so far-fetched. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > GNU isn't doing better in 2020 than the FSF was doing in 2017. In fact | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > it's doing worse. So I think it's possible for GNU to collapse in the | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > next 5 years-- I usually give these things 5 years and they usually | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > happen faster, and I'm still like: "wow." But it's more important to | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > save GNU than the FSF. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > GNU is the only thing holding the GPL up. Sure there's a lot of other | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > GPL software, but most of it is on Github. Without GNU, Copyleft will | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > have no (sincere) champion. It will have support, but it will fall apart | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > as people like SFC exploit it-- more exploiters than supporters. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > GNU is the last stand for Free Software (as Free Software) before it | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > collapses. What collapse looks like is just a long, steady timeline of | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > erosion without renewal. On a software front, Hyperbola can shore up | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > some defenses and set good examples for the next generation of Free | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > Software. But if that doesn't happen, GNU will go the way of the FSF and | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > take Free Software with it. GNU IS going that way, slowly. The big | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > question in all of this, is what people are going to rally behind. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| schestowitz | > Nobody knows the answer to that-- only what will happen if they don't. | Oct 07 09:56 |
| MinceR | hurd has failed anyway | Oct 07 10:08 |
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| schestowitz | I barely heard about its development anymore | Oct 07 10:58 |
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| zoobab | UPC enters the Bundestag tomorrow, vote by the end of the month with the vote of the Budget, cause they need to be present for 2/3 majority | Oct 07 11:02 |
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| schestowitz | fcc said further issues, beyond this majority | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | they just give themselves a mere illusion of "progress" | Oct 07 11:04 |
| schestowitz | to carry on selling "Services" to some gullible clients, zoobab | Oct 07 11:05 |
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| zoobab | I decided to take the month of October off | Oct 07 11:06 |
| schestowitz | not much will happen anyway | Oct 07 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | can't think of anything crucial this month | Oct 07 11:07 |
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| schestowitz | Re: Gnu article | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > In the last paragraph, s/because if this/because of this/ | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > I know someone is going to complain that GNU wasn't built on top of UNIX | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > (arguing correctly that GNU is not derived from UNIX sources) but it was | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > still literally built on top of UNIX, on its way to being self-hosting. | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > I was referring to that-- and the comparison is apt, because Hyperbola | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > is also being built on top of UNIX-- though officially, OpenBSD (any | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > BSD) is not allowed to refer to itself as UNIX. So they have to say | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > "Unix-like" in official and commercial contexts, no more 1-800-ITS-UNIX | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | > phone numbers for selling BSD. | Oct 07 11:38 |
| schestowitz | we got some more gates transcripts ready | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | >> thoughts? | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | >> | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | > I think that looks right. | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | > The first nine lines are indented with tabs, but that's in the copies as | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | > they arrived so they should be left in. | Oct 07 11:42 |
| schestowitz | Re: top: no newline, bottom: newline | Oct 07 11:42 |
| oiaohm | schestowitz: https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/history.html the history of GNU get very messy when you look at hurd history. | Oct 07 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | history | Oct 07 11:54 | |
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| scientes | oiaohm, turd history? | Oct 07 13:18 |
| scientes | OK, I love the GNU project, but at this point hurd is a failure, and maybe they should look at SeL4, which is GPL | Oct 07 13:18 |
| scientes | protected mode was never a good idea, and I think designing an OS around it was a mistake to begin with | Oct 07 13:20 |
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| oiaohm | scientes: that writes it in better english like it mentions "initial kernel" that is in fact mentioned in The GNU Manifesto in 1985 | Oct 07 13:43 |
| oiaohm | Hurd history goes back to a proto OS kernel in 1983 the start of GNU. | Oct 07 13:44 |
| scientes | also when they were writing it they were still trying to emulatin SRV5 UNIX | Oct 07 13:44 |
| scientes | while these days a new system would do its own thing, while trying to support source-compatibility with Linux | Oct 07 13:45 |
| oiaohm | The fact there was a early kernel the idea that GNU is built completely on top of Unix is not 100 true.l | Oct 07 13:46 |
| scientes | which is actually quite doable givin how contained the APIs are | Oct 07 13:46 |
| oiaohm | Progress of GNU kernel work has been total failure. | Oct 07 13:47 |
| scientes | oiaohm, yeah, but you always need to people something that is somewhat familiar to them | Oct 07 13:47 |
| scientes | which is why FPGAs are still in the stone-age when it comes to software | Oct 07 13:47 |
| oiaohm | Really the mircokernel idea was very strong in the early GNU kernel work.l | Oct 07 13:48 |
| oiaohm | I have to trim a finger nail. | Oct 07 13:48 |
| oiaohm | Its hooking the L key | Oct 07 13:48 |
| oiaohm | To be correct covid-19 has given the the chance to let my nail grow out.l | Oct 07 13:49 |
| kingoffrance | https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/faq/which_microkernel.html | Oct 07 13:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.gnu.org | What happened with the Hurd ports to the OSKit Mach / L4 / Coyotos / Viengoos microkernels? | Oct 07 13:51 | |
| kingoffrance | "The majority of GNU Mach's ?device drivers are from Linux 2.0" | Oct 07 13:52 |
| kingoffrance | os kit no longer maintained upstream | Oct 07 13:52 |
| kingoffrance | "and thus Viengoos is on hold." | Oct 07 13:52 |
| kingoffrance | from what i see thats 3x their "upstream" died | Oct 07 13:52 |
| kingoffrance | like it seems to me maybe they wouldve been better doing everything on their own | Oct 07 13:52 |
| kingoffrance | from the peanut gallery it looks like they tried to reuse other code ...which those projects all died on their own | Oct 07 13:53 |
| kingoffrance | leaving hurd holding the bag | Oct 07 13:53 |
| kingoffrance | ironically, they may have been the only project alive | Oct 07 13:54 |
| kingoffrance | contrary to how usually portrayed anywas | Oct 07 13:54 |
| kingoffrance | perhaps this is too simplistic, but looks to me like they kept trying to pull in other code | Oct 07 13:56 |
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| sebsebseb | MinceR: Apple | Oct 07 14:22 |
| scientes | hmm, appears Nancy Risol took down her fake interview with Forbes | Oct 07 14:29 |
| scientes | where she was wearing these huge fake nails | Oct 07 14:29 |
| scientes | its still up on Facebook, but you have to log in | Oct 07 14:30 |
| scientes | I wish I could send a special header that would tell web sites to warm me if I only have my google email attached | Oct 07 14:49 |
| scientes | because google won't even let you use your own domain anymore unless you pay them | Oct 07 14:49 |
| scientes | "google accounts" no longer exist | Oct 07 14:50 |
| scientes | they only have gmail accounts | Oct 07 14:50 |
| scientes | and you can also no longer use their servers to send email from your own domain name | Oct 07 14:52 |
| scientes | which is a FUD problem | Oct 07 14:52 |
| scientes | this is a case when I am glad that Germany forced them to use "googlemail.com" in Germany | Oct 07 14:55 |
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| sebsebseb | schestowitz: interesing new restrictiosn for scotland | Oct 07 15:02 |
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| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I guess... | Oct 07 15:28 |
| schestowitz | better later than never | Oct 07 15:28 |
| schestowitz | winter is coming, many patients | Oct 07 15:29 |
| schestowitz | https://robertreich.org/post/631268051682279424 | Oct 07 15:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich | Oct 07 15:33 | |
| sebsebseb | schestowitz: do it in Engalnd and ruin the pubs that are already nearly ruined | Oct 07 15:34 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you were right about Constantinople speaking Greek. They also massacred all Westerners in the capital in 1182, including the women, children, and sick. | Oct 07 15:39 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:51] schestowitz: Re: What kind of crap is this? | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:52] schestowitz: >> OpenBSD also has a monolithic kernel, so | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:54] schestowitz: > | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:55] schestowitz: > So nothing. Practically every working OS has a monolithic kernel. What's | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:57] schestowitz: > different between BSD and Linux is that Linux never gets forked, it only | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:53:58] schestowitz: > gets worse. BSD gets forked and different groups of maintainers all the | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | > [05:54:00] schestowitz: > time. | Oct 07 15:42 |
| smnthermes | Who said that? | Oct 07 15:42 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | schestowitz: nice text who is the ator? yourself | Oct 07 15:51 |
| smnthermes | https://nitter.snopyta.org/BrendanEich/status/1154555458587226113#m | Oct 07 15:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | BrendanEich (@BrendanEich): "What "follow-up on Twitter"? Link to it if you can, or GTFO. Your own record here, for all to see, is terrible: "DRM", "enforced viewing", "(the site with different ads)". Own it or retract it." | nitter | Oct 07 15:54 | |
| smnthermes | Lol | Oct 07 15:54 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | yes hyperbola seams to be the sane people that hopefully will make the path for the future | Oct 07 15:54 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | although im concerned there is already some cracks showing up from some of the recent contributors | Oct 07 15:55 |
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| smnthermes | > Devuan is also done — the project has no integrity at all, and Dyne (an organisation that does seem to care about your freedom, led by FSF-approved-distro creator Denis Roio) should pull the plug on it and let Devuan fend for itself | Oct 07 16:16 |
| smnthermes | Any article about it? | Oct 07 16:16 |
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| MinceR | 07 142034 < scientes> protected mode was never a good idea, and I think designing an OS around it was a mistake to begin with | Oct 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | is it better to have buggy applications crash the whole system? :> | Oct 07 16:54 |
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| MinceR | sebsebseb: red hat | Oct 07 16:54 |
| MinceR | what's the issue with devuan? | Oct 07 16:55 |
| schestowitz | [15:51] <_I3^RELATIVISM> schestowitz: nice text who is the ator? yourself | Oct 07 16:56 |
| schestowitz | no, figosdev | Oct 07 16:56 |
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| schestowitz | [16:16] <smnthermes> Any article about it? | Oct 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz | you can search dyne and devuan on the site | Oct 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz | fig is more familiar with it than I am | Oct 07 17:09 |
| schestowitz | the devuan folks let him down, not dyne | Oct 07 17:09 |
| Ariadne | theres a few issues with devuan | Oct 07 17:30 |
| Ariadne | for one, half the people involved in devuan are doing it for the wrong reasons | Oct 07 17:30 |
| Ariadne | secondly, there's not much competency involved in the actual production of devuan. lots of sloppy work | Oct 07 17:31 |
| Ariadne | third, some devuan people are linked to white supremacy, qanon, etc | Oct 07 17:31 |
| schestowitz | all things can be linked to it | Oct 07 17:38 |
| schestowitz | does not mean it's their lead | Oct 07 17:38 |
| schestowitz | twitter has them, pleroma has them | Oct 07 17:38 |
| scientes | MinceR, MMU is a good idea, but having privledged mode was a dumb idea--it is better to do security through memory addresses | Oct 07 17:43 |
| scientes | and put all the security in memory protection | Oct 07 17:43 |
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| _I3^RELATIVISM | viera: that text tha schestowitz share | Oct 07 18:12 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | shared do you know the origin | Oct 07 18:13 |
| scientes | oh wow, that georgian monestary that I was talking about before is now part of a scandel https://oc-media.org/georgian-officials-indicted-for-hiding-maps-to-concede-territories-to-azerbaijan/ | Oct 07 18:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oc-media.org | Georgian officials indicted for ‘hiding maps’ to concede territories to Azerbaijan | Oct 07 18:16 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, do you know what program I can use to open a IDRISI map? http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_05/index.html | Oct 07 18:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. May . | Oct 07 18:17 | |
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| XRevan86 | scientes: Apparently there's a programme in the DVD edition. | Oct 07 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | > Agroatlas Utilities: Agroatlas Viewer, Image Calculator, Palette Editor | Oct 07 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | and there's that | Oct 07 18:19 |
| scientes | ?? its a common format I see people talking about converting back and forward between ArcGIS | Oct 07 18:19 |
| scientes | considering its from 2010 | Oct 07 18:20 |
| scientes | yeah sure though, probably will work with wine | Oct 07 18:20 |
| scientes | nice it covers all of the soviet union :) that includes georgia | Oct 07 18:21 |
| scientes | well, no only the russian part of the soviet union | Oct 07 18:21 |
| scientes | the maps at the tblisi anti-soviet museum also showed the distinction | Oct 07 18:22 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, the program is using the cyrillic page which wine does not understand | Oct 07 18:30 |
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| scientes | OK, I have to cross the caspian sea to find somewhere dry | Oct 07 18:33 |
| scientes | pretty much what I already knew | Oct 07 18:34 |
| scientes | oh wow, georgia is actually better than across the mountains | Oct 07 18:35 |
| scientes | in january http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_01/index.html | Oct 07 18:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. January . | Oct 07 18:35 | |
| schestowitz | scientes: not a good time to be in that region tbh | Oct 07 18:36 |
| scientes | ok very seasonal | Oct 07 18:36 |
| scientes | http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/ovv/ovv_09/index.html | Oct 07 18:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Relative air humidity map. September . | Oct 07 18:36 | |
| scientes | my wool clothes got ruined in the last few months | Oct 07 18:36 |
| scientes | being on the first floor was the biggest problem | Oct 07 18:36 |
| scientes | and on the sea | Oct 07 18:36 |
| scientes | but if i took them to the dessert I could save them | Oct 07 18:37 |
| scientes | and my nice down jacket | Oct 07 18:37 |
| scientes | so that area must grow nasty cold mold | Oct 07 18:37 |
| scientes | like where I am from | Oct 07 18:38 |
| schestowitz | https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2020/10/07/Greece-migrant-pushbacks-expulsion-Evros-Turkey | Oct 07 18:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenewhumanitarian.org | The New Humanitarian | Greece’s ‘new tactic’ of migrant expulsion | Oct 07 18:38 | |
| scientes | although I do know the start difference between 90% and 100% humidity | Oct 07 18:38 |
| scientes | *stark | Oct 07 18:38 |
| scientes | oh interesting I guess this measurement is better for dring abilities http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/dvv/dvv_09/index.html | Oct 07 18:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Air humidity deficit map. September . | Oct 07 18:39 | |
| scientes | and there you can see that things do not dry as well in georgia all year round | Oct 07 18:40 |
| scientes | http://www.agroatlas.ru/en/content/Climatic_maps/dvv/dvv_06/index.html | Oct 07 18:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.agroatlas.ru | AgroAtlas - Climate - Air humidity deficit map. June . | Oct 07 18:40 | |
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| MinceR | scientes: some code would still need to have the ability to manage memory, though | Oct 07 19:02 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: "Tillis and Blackburn Introduce Anti-Hacking Bill Aimed at Protecting COVID-19 Vaccine Research" | Oct 07 19:10 |
| scientes | MinceR, you are right that the memory management code in Linux is inline assembly | Oct 07 19:10 |
| schestowitz | From Watch'dawg' just now | Oct 07 19:10 |
| scientes | actually, not even assembly, but inline raw bytes | Oct 07 19:11 |
| scientes | (with enough documentation that it is GPL) | Oct 07 19:11 |
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| smnthermes | > [13:30:43] Ariadne: for one, half the people involved in devuan are doing it for the wrong reasons | Oct 07 20:34 |
| smnthermes | What do you mean? | Oct 07 20:34 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ | Oct 07 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cyberciti.biz | nixCraft - Linux and Unix tutorials for new and seasoned sysadmin | Oct 07 20:35 | |
| schestowitz | published minutes ago: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-set-up-wireguard-vpn-server-on-alpine-linux/ | Oct 07 20:35 |
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| zoobab | https://www.facebook.com/openinventionnetwork/posts/3512712772112775 | Oct 07 20:41 |
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| schestowitz | " In addition, a number of our community members are sponsoring the event, including #Google, #IBM, #Salesforce, #RedHat, #SUSE and #Microsoft." | Oct 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | Stay classy | Oct 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | but tbh, zoobab, nothing shocking there | Oct 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | ato has long been friendly to these types | Oct 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | it's nc-based and red hat i.e. ibm connected | Oct 07 20:43 |
| schestowitz | is there something jaw-dropping in there that we cannot see easily? | Oct 07 20:43 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19151541 | Oct 07 20:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #Monopolies and #OpenSource aren't contradictory when the whole 'open source' and OSI 'thing' is just an #openwashing veil for #ProprietarySoftware (which is where we're at in 2020!!!), complete with... #swpats (!) | Oct 07 20:47 | |
| schestowitz | sebsebseb: I try not to watch 'the news' | Oct 07 20:47 |
| schestowitz | [15:34] <sebsebseb> schestowitz: do it in Engalnd and ruin the pubs that are already nearly ruined | Oct 07 20:48 |
| schestowitz | they were never essential | Oct 07 20:48 |
| schestowitz | I see people there unmasked, uncaring, mingling with anyone who passes by | Oct 07 20:48 |
| schestowitz | nobody enforces the rules there, so what's the point even having such rules? | Oct 07 20:48 |
| schestowitz | which everyone will flout without consequences, not even denial of service (let alone fines) | Oct 07 20:49 |
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