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| AdmFubar | this is funny | Aug 09 00:08 |
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| AdmFubar | https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sony-stops-the-bizarre-McDonald-s-PlayStation-5-DualSense-controller-at-the-last-moment.553323.0.html | Aug 09 00:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sony stops the bizarre McDonald's PlayStation 5 DualSense controller at the last moment - NotebookCheck.net News | Aug 09 00:08 | |
| DaemonFC | Why do you need Sony's permission to skin a controller and give it away? | Aug 09 00:27 |
| Ariadne | if it uses their trademarks, it could be a problem | Aug 09 00:33 |
| Ariadne | i guess | Aug 09 00:33 |
| DaemonFC | The ony logos I saw on them were McDonalds. | Aug 09 00:34 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▄▂▃▃▂▂▅▃▄▆▃▃▄▅▇▃▄▃▄▆▃▅▄▅▃▄▄▅▄▅▆▁▂▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 19.46 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▂█▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▂█▁▂▃▁ avg(k/sec) 48.18▕ swarm size (avg): 277.12 ⟲ | Aug 09 01:06 |
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| Ariadne | DaemonFC: playstation button had playstation logo | Aug 09 01:18 |
| DaemonFC | There's no law that I'm aware of that says you can't buy something and then give it away. | Aug 09 01:22 |
| techrights-news | #9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 8th, 2021 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154299 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 01:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: August 8th, 2021 | Tux Machines | Aug 09 01:32 | |
| techrights-news | #Linux 5.14-rc5 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154300 | Aug 09 01:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.14-rc5 | Tux Machines | Aug 09 01:39 | |
| techrights-news | Sorry, there is no "MY" or 'i' in iPhone. #apple controls the whole thing, so "spyware" is the least of your problems; it's ALWAYS SPYING! https://www.makeuseof.com/is-my-iphone-infected-with-pegasus-spyware/ see also spied by gov. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34444233 | Aug 09 01:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Is My iPhone Infected With Pegasus Spyware? | Aug 09 01:41 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News | Aug 09 01:41 | |
| psydruid | https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-reported-to-sell-its-server-business-will-keep-and-grow-kunpeng-chip/ | Aug 09 01:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.huaweicentral.com | Huawei reported to sell its server business, will keep and grow Kunpeng chip - HC Newsroom | Aug 09 01:43 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Kunpeng? | Aug 09 01:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | what is that based on? | Aug 09 01:44 |
| psydruid | their own ARM cores | Aug 09 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | BTW, the embargo, they claim, prevent them from putting FIVE GEEEEE! in 'phones' | Aug 09 01:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | *prevented | Aug 09 01:44 |
| techrights-news | "at the end of April I disclosed a bug in an NXP chip as part of my work at Oxide. The short summary is there was an undisclosed hardware block in the LPC55S69 which allowed for modification of the ROM and breaking of various isolation boundries. Oops?" https://www.labbott.name/blog/2021/08/08/lpc55s69.html | Aug 09 01:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.labbott.name | Fun with the LPC55S69 | Something witty yet insightful | Aug 09 01:46 | |
| techrights-news | More shameless lies and nonsense about the dead #UPC from people who believe that endlessly repeating lies can somehow save it http://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/opt_in_or_opt_out_925361 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/UPC | Aug 09 01:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Opt in or opt out? - PMLiVE | Aug 09 01:56 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | UPC - Techrights | Aug 09 01:56 | |
| techrights-news | Review: #SMEServer 10.0 • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154301 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: SME Server 10.0 | Tux Machines | Aug 09 01:57 | |
| techrights-news | MEPs demand Brussels break global deadlock over Southern Ocean protected status https://www.euronews.com/2021/07/08/meps-demand-brussels-break-global-deadlock-over-southern-ocean-protected-status | Aug 09 01:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MEPs demand Brussels break global deadlock over Southern Ocean protected status | Euronews | Aug 09 01:58 | |
| techrights-news | Has Forbes killed off Jason Evangelho? No more #gnu #linux coverage allowed unless they receive bribes? Like #microsoft does for endless #vista11 fluff... | Aug 09 02:00 |
| techrights-news | "The Free Software Foundation is funding a call for white papers of 3,000 or fewer words that address either Copilot itself or the subjects of copyright, machine learning, or free software as a whole" https://hackaday.com/2021/08/08/hackaday-links-august-8-2021/ | Aug 09 02:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hackaday Links: August 8, 2021 | Hackaday | Aug 09 02:01 | |
| techrights-news | #apple may also use those hashes for #copyright enforcement for #hollywood etc. THIS IS NOT ABOUT CHILDREN, IT IS ABOUT CONTROL. https://gizmodo.com/critics-say-apple-built-a-backdoor-into-your-iphone-wit-1847438624 | Aug 09 02:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gizmodo.com | Critics: Apple's Child Abuse Detection Tools Threaten Privacy | Aug 09 02:05 | |
| techrights-news | #ReactOS Is Going Places, With More Stable AMD64, SMP, And Multi-Monitor Support • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154302 | Aug 09 02:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ReactOS Is Going Places, With More Stable AMD64, SMP, And Multi-Monitor Support | Tux Machines | Aug 09 02:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▇▅▅▄▃▃▄▆▂▃▅▃▄▃▄▅▅▄▆▄▂▁▂▅▅▄▅▆▄▅▅▃▁▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 18.16 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▃▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▁▁█▁▂▂▁▂▂▂▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 13.83▕ swarm size (avg): 277.07 ⟲ | Aug 09 02:07 |
| techrights-news | Sudo vs. su: Which Command Should You Use? ⚓ https://www.makeuseof.com/sudo-vs-su/ ䷉ #makeuseof | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest | Aug 09 02:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.makeuseof.com | Sudo vs. su: Which Command Should You Use? | Aug 09 02:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 09 02:07 | |
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| techrights-news | Sophie Corke keeps repeating the propaganda term "IP" more times than I can keep track of http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/sunday-surprises.html there's no such thing; call things what they really are... | Aug 09 02:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | Sunday Surprises - The IPKat | Aug 09 02:10 | |
| techrights-news | FOSS Patents: #Privacy and hypocrisy: #Apple wants to know your location to sell you music, but governments must not ask you to scan QR codes to fight the pandemic ⚓ http://www.fosspatents.com/2021/08/privacy-and-hypocrisy-apple-wants-to.html ䷉ #fosspatents | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest | Aug 09 02:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosspatents.com | FOSS Patents: Privacy and hypocrisy: Apple wants to know your location to sell you music, but governments must not ask you to scan QR codes to fight the pandemic | Aug 09 02:11 | |
| techrights-news | The most cost-effective thing to do is not waste any money on #patents , but #patent #litigation firms won't tell you that, will they? https://www.udl.co.uk/insights/start-ups-cost-effective-patent-filing-strategies | Aug 09 02:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udl.co.uk | Start-ups — cost-effective patent filing strategies | Aug 09 02:14 | |
| techrights-news | #TeamUPC is paying this #propagandamill for a self-serving interpretation of a #kangaroocourt of the #EPO ; when these rig courts are further 'analysed' by people looking to crush the law and abolish constitution we're in trouble https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t03r04lmz7pc/g119-and-a-game-of-golf-non-obviousness-is-a-par-3-hole | Aug 09 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | G1/19 and a game of golf: non-obviousness is a par-3 hole | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 09 02:17 | |
| techrights-news | Clickbait BS from #newscientist https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg25133462-100-even-exorcists-are-now-working-remotely/ | Aug 09 02:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Even exorcists are now working remotely | New Scientist | Aug 09 02:17 | |
| techrights-news | US still granting loads of fake #patents such as #SoftwarePatents in a hub of #patenttrolls where courts became little but businesses https://dallasinnovates.com/dallas-invents-149-patents-granted-for-week-of-july-20/ #swpats #texas | Aug 09 02:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dallasinnovates.com | Dallas Invents: 149 Patents Granted for Week of July 20 » Dallas Innovates | Aug 09 02:19 | |
| techrights-news | Now enough done to leverage lockdowns to succumb to the demands and needs/will of workers rather than corporations, oligarchs, employers. In fact, they've made it obvious they prioritise profits over safety of humans. | Aug 09 02:22 |
| techrights-news | This week in GNU/Linux based #ChromeOS: ⚓ https://www.xda-developers.com/this-week-in-chrome-os-chrome-os-92-hits-stable/ ䷉ #xdadevelopers | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest | Aug 09 02:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.xda-developers.com | This week in Chrome OS: Chrome OS 92 hits stable | Aug 09 02:23 | |
| techrights-news | Seems like an odd approach for the mere illusion of safety https://soranews24.com/2021/08/08/fuji-rock-festival-to-send-free-covid-19-test-kits-to-all-ticket-holders/ | Aug 09 02:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fuji Rock Festival to send free COVID-19 test kits to all ticket holders | SoraNews24 -Japan News- | Aug 09 02:26 | |
| techrights-news | "it was true that the intervener’s filing of the EUTM application had taken place after the applicant presented the modernization plan for its airport to the intervener." #trademark #trademarks https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/eu-general-court-considers-bad-faith.html | Aug 09 02:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | EU General Court considers bad faith claim in scenario of parties’ earlier cooperation - The IPKat | Aug 09 02:28 | |
| techrights-news | " #GSK sued for inducing infringement and the jury sided with GSK and awarded $200 million in damages. The district court rejected the jury verdict and instead found insufficient evidence to show causation" https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/skinny-approval-patent.html | Aug 09 02:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | GSK v. Teva: Skinny Label Approval is not a Patent Safe Harbor | Patently-O | Aug 09 02:30 | |
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| techrights-news | "It appears that the [ #uspto ]Director personally considered both cases rather than delegating the decision back to the #PTAB or another Official." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/director-reviews-denied.html http://techrights.org/2017/03/05/dennis-crouch-worries-about-ptab-and-cafc/ | Aug 09 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | The First Post-IPR Director Reviews are Denied | Patently-O | Aug 09 02:31 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | PTAB and CAFC Crush Patents on Business Methods and Software, So Dennis Crouch Tries to Slow Them Down | Techrights | Aug 09 02:31 | |
| techrights-news | In #irc dead channels with a million users are worthless http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080821.html#tAug%2008%2016:29:25 | Aug 09 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Aug 09 02:36 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154303 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 09 02:36 | |
| techrights-news | Emulating Nintendo Switch Games on Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154304 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Emulating Nintendo Switch Games on Linux | Tux Machines | Aug 09 02:36 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-080821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 09 02:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Aug 09 02:36 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-080821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 09 02:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Aug 09 02:37 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-080821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-080821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 09 02:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Aug 09 02:38 | |
| techrights-news | Agenda of #patent parasites being promoted by their propaganda mill, which also looks to scuttle #PTAB and thereby lower patent quality https://www.iam-media.com/litigation/us-litigation-4000-district-court-cases-2021 #patents http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/IAM | Aug 09 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | US district court patent filings set to climb above 4,000 for the year | IAM | Aug 09 02:39 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IAM - Techrights | Aug 09 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐈 𝐑 𝐂 𝐋 𝐈 𝐍 𝐊 𝐒 *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080821.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-080821.txt Read the log now... | Aug 09 02:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Aug 09 02:39 | |
| techrights-news | *** 𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍 *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-08-08.txt | Aug 09 02:41 |
| AdmFubar | https://www.osnews.com/story/133803/one-bad-apple/ | Aug 09 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One bad Apple – OSnews | Aug 09 02:49 | |
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| techrights-news | #greenwashing nonsense from large companies: we'll stop sending you paper bills because something "environment"; but they keep driving around polluting the planet, x1000 times worse. It's all about reducing their operational expenses, as those sheets of papers barely harm the environment (in relative terms), have vast value (proof of address, archiving etc.); your PC's production and battery/power usage for "online" alternatives like | Aug 09 02:53 |
| schestowitz | "battery/power usage for “online” alternatives likely worse" | Aug 09 02:53 |
| AdmFubar | oh but they will send you paper advertising like mad.. | Aug 09 02:55 |
| techrights-news | This is where all the large technology companies are going or have already gone, #Google and #Microsoft for sure https://www.osnews.com/story/133803/one-bad-apple/ #apple #surveillance #TechRights | Aug 09 02:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: of course! | Aug 09 02:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | So you can file and keep ads in the cabinet! | Aug 09 02:55 |
| AdmFubar | my credit union does this... they charge for my monthly report, but send several ads a month for other services they offer. | Aug 09 02:56 |
| techrights-news | My energy provider #eon (which I never chose, those charlatans took over #npower without consultation or barriers/challenges from competition regulators) charge us over 2 pounds (!) for each paper bill they send. No "website" or "apps"? Pay extra 30 pounds or so per year. Not acceptable! | Aug 09 02:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | AdmFubar: yes | Aug 09 02:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | beat me to it | Aug 09 02:59 |
| AdmFubar | my credit union charges $1 a month.. | Aug 09 02:59 |
| AdmFubar | Roy... stallmans rss feed seems to be down at the moment | Aug 09 03:00 |
| techrights-news | #SardiniaTelescope Captures Most Detailed Radio Image Ever Seen of #Andromeda #Galaxy http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/radio-image-andromeda-galaxy-09911.html | Aug 09 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sardinia Telescope Captures Most Detailed Radio Image Ever Seen of Andromeda Galaxy | Astronomy | Sci-News.com | Aug 09 03:00 | |
| AdmFubar | site is up... his rss feed isn't updating | Aug 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: what do you mean by "down"? | Aug 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz | ah | Aug 09 03:01 |
| AdmFubar | unresponcive | Aug 09 03:01 |
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| schestowitz | I don't know how he generates it | Aug 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz | I can imagine it is some cron job | Aug 09 03:01 |
| schestowitz | copylefted for sure | Aug 09 03:01 |
| AdmFubar | might be in the middle of a back up? | Aug 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/rss | Aug 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz | very short file | Aug 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz | or maybe he put some 'bad' char that broke the program's running | Aug 09 03:02 |
| schestowitz | <channel>nesting is telling | Aug 09 03:03 |
| schestowitz | it doesn't close | Aug 09 03:03 |
| schestowitz | won't validate | Aug 09 03:03 |
| AdmFubar | maybe a disk error | Aug 09 03:04 |
| schestowitz | this will break all the rms bots online | Aug 09 03:04 |
| AdmFubar | another one bites the dust https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/former-newsmax-host-dies-of-covid-after-deathbed-about-face-on-anti-vax-beliefs/ | Aug 09 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Former Newsmax host dies of COVID after deathbed about-face on anti-vax beliefs | Salon.com | Aug 09 03:06 | |
| techrights-news | Crisis of legitimacy for the entire #patent system https://indaily.com.au/news/business/2021/08/09/if-machines-can-be-inventors-could-ai-soon-monopolise-technology/ | Aug 09 03:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-indaily.com.au | If machines can be inventors, could AI soon monopolise technology? - InDaily | Aug 09 03:06 | |
| techrights-news | When so many large companies operate at a loss, indebted to lenders https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/indian-bankers-in-talks-as-court-rulings-threaten-over-6-billion-in-loans/85151786 | Aug 09 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Vodafone Idea: Indian bankers in talks as court rulings threaten over $6 billion in loans, Telecom News, ET Telecom | Aug 09 03:07 | |
| AdmFubar | they will monopolize everything... Hello Skynet! | Aug 09 03:08 |
| techrights-news | #DarwinAward for people who needlessly politicise basics like mask-wearing https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/former-newsmax-host-dies-of-covid-after-deathbed-about-face-on-anti-vax-beliefs/ | Aug 09 03:08 |
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| techrights-news | There's gross overuse of the term "anti-vax" these days, as many rightly foresaw. Refusing to participate in clinical trials over the years was never called "anti-vax" (until last year); the term anti-vax was used to describe deniers of the value of polio, measles, flu vaccines. | Aug 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz | AdmFubar: good for lawyers | Aug 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz | until they write a program | Aug 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz | "HEY HI" lawyer | Aug 09 03:10 |
| schestowitz | let computers game the whole thin | Aug 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz | like they already do the stock market | Aug 09 03:11 |
| schestowitz | high-frequency trading [sic] | Aug 09 03:11 |
| techrights-news | Very slippery slope https://www.law360.com/articles/1407508/south-africa-issues-world-s-first-patent-with-ai-inventor watch how the system crashes itself; sit back as it burns itself... #patents for BOTS. #patent #monopolies | Aug 09 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-South Africa Issues World's First Patent With AI Inventor - Law360 | Aug 09 03:12 | |
| AdmFubar | Terminators = lawyers... mmmhhh | Aug 09 03:13 |
| techrights-news | Fishing expedition for dumb judges and #patent offices: "launched more than a dozen patent applications across the globe" https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/jul/30/im-sorry-dave-im-afraid-i-invented-that-australian-court-finds-ai-systems-can-be-recognised-under-patent-law #southAfrica and #australia FELL FOR IT | Aug 09 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | I’m sorry Dave I’m afraid I invented that: Australian court finds AI systems can be recognised under patent law | Artificial intelligence (AI) | The Guardian | Aug 09 03:14 | |
| techrights-news | " #SouthAfrica does not permit the patenting of software, but #Microsoft and/or #Novell have ignored the law." http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa #swpats | Aug 09 03:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights | Aug 09 03:15 | |
| techrights-news | 1980s: patents on maths 1990s: patents on anything; MORE PATENTS = MOAAAAAR INNOVATION 2000s: patents for trolls 2020: #patents to deny access to COVID treatment 2021: patents for bots Soon this whole system will collapse | Aug 09 03:17 |
| techrights-news | #Australia has made itself extremely foolish, gullible, desperate for low-grade 'patents' https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/australian-judge-rules-inventions-6431529/ | Aug 09 03:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Australian Judge Rules Inventions Developed By Artificial Intelligence Can Qualify For Patent Protection | Weintraub Tobin - JDSupra | Aug 09 03:19 | |
| techrights-news | WOW! Now they're turning "Lifesciences" into one word, never mind if it's a misleading buzzword https://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news/956791/proactive-to-host-lifesciences-webinar-on-tuesday-august-10-featuring-three-asx-listed-companies-956791.html see http://techrights.org/2018/07/08/life-science-patents/ | Aug 09 03:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.proactiveinvestors.com.au | Proactive to host Lifesciences Webinar on Tuesday, August 10, featuring three ASX-listed companies | Aug 09 03:20 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Term ‘Life Science’ Has Outlived Its Usefulness | Techrights | Aug 09 03:20 | |
| techrights-news | It does not seem like those #patent #litigation fanatics (profiteers) realise just to what degree this is damaging the credibility of the whole system they've hijacked in their corporate #coupdetat https://www.mondaq.com/australia/trademark/1099450/one-small-step-for-man-one-giant-leap-for-ai-australian-court-finds-dabus-can-be-an-inventor | Aug 09 03:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | One Small Step For Man, One Giant Leap For AI: Australian Court Finds DABUS Can Be An Inventor - Intellectual Property - Australia | Aug 09 03:22 | |
| DaemonFC | https://www.chicagobusiness.com/utilities/retail-suppliers-charging-hundreds-millions-more-comed-power | Aug 09 03:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagobusiness.com | Retail suppliers charging hundreds of millions more than ComEd for power | Crain's Chicago Business | Aug 09 03:23 | |
| schestowitz-TR | Communist Education :-) | Aug 09 03:24 |
| DaemonFC | "Households in ComEd’s service territory that bought their power from alternative suppliers collectively paid $324 million more than they would have with ComEd in the year that ended May 31, according to a July 30 report by the Illinois Commerce Commission’s Office of Retail Market Development. On average each household customer that ditched ComEd paid $323 more for electricity in that year than they would have if they’d done nothing. | Aug 09 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | " | Aug 09 03:26 |
| DaemonFC | Electricity Choice! | Aug 09 03:26 |
| techrights-news | "Last week the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved an interchangeable biosimilar to insulin glargine, an approval notable because it is the first approved interchangeable biosimilar product." We we recently saw, #corruption too can buy #fda approval https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/fda-approves-first-interchangeable-biological-product.html | Aug 09 03:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: FDA Approves First Interchangeable Biological Product | Aug 09 03:26 | |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, Yeah, those other companies buy you off with a $50 gift card and a 3 month discount. | Aug 09 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | Then they lock you into a two year term or something at an outrageous rate. | Aug 09 03:27 |
| DaemonFC | Or scammers working on commission get your ComEd account number and forge your name. | Aug 09 03:28 |
| techrights-news | " #LG was willfully infringing the Mondis/Hitachi U.S. Patent No. 7,475,180. Post-verdict, the district court denied LG’s motions for #JMOL on infringement and validity and then later granted a new trial on damages and willfulness." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/timing-interlocutory-appeal.html | Aug 09 03:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Timing of Interlocutory Appeal in Patent Cases | Patently-O | Aug 09 03:28 | |
| techrights-news | It seems increasingly apparent that propaganda mill "Managing Intellectual Property" is just selling site space to litigation firms, hardly even hiding that anymore (sponsored "articles"). No wonder so many writers left. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0x0pl47bbqb/assessing-the-licensing-environment-of-seps-in-japan | Aug 09 03:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Assessing the licensing environment of SEPs in Japan | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 09 03:31 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Phew, I was afraid of ComCast Education | Aug 09 03:31 |
| techrights-news | Large #pharmaceuticals or #monopolies get whatever they want, as usual: #France Implements New Early Access Pathway https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144584/France-Implements-New-Early-Access-Pathway-For-Innovative-Medicines | Aug 09 03:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 403 @ https://pink.pharmaintelligence.informa.com/PS144584/France-Implements-New-Early-Access-Pathway-For-Innovative-Medicines ) | Aug 09 03:33 | |
| techrights-news | When they say "Sources" they mean "SPONSORS" (of this #$propaganda mill or de facto lobbying site in 'news' clothing) https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0g18vgbhl0n/badfaith-trademark-law-one-step-forward-one-step-back | Aug 09 03:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Bad-faith trademark law: ‘one step forward, one step back’ | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 09 03:34 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: coming soon? | Aug 09 03:35 |
| blitzed | If anyone is bored; 1 (929) 299-1269 aNONradio Open VOIP; http://anonradio.net/listen/ | Aug 09 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anonradio.net | listen – // aNONradio // | Aug 09 03:35 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: 'tis a spammer or legit? | Aug 09 03:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | blitzed? | Aug 09 03:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | legit | Aug 09 03:36 |
| XRevan86 | I see a phone number and I just assume. | Aug 09 03:36 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: "1 (929) 299-1269 phone me, I'm so horrrny" | Aug 09 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | not "Open VOIP" | Aug 09 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | until VOIP turns you on or something | Aug 09 03:37 |
| schestowitz-TR | anonradio sounds familiar | Aug 09 03:37 |
| XRevan86 | http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/comics-call-fun-488021.jpeg | Aug 09 03:38 |
| XRevan86 | Very old but also very topical :) | Aug 09 03:38 |
| techrights-news | This past week if not month #canonical and #ubuntu has been virtually invisible. I suppose they're too busy shilling #vista and #wsl to actually advertise or promote #gnu #linux http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ | Aug 09 03:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights | Aug 09 03:39 | |
| techrights-news | Apple's [excuse] photo scanning tools criticised by privacy experts https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/technology/2021/08/apple-s-child-abuse-photo-scanning-tools-criticised-by-privacy-experts.html | Aug 09 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newshub.co.nz | Apple's child abuse photo scanning tools criticised by privacy experts | Newshub | Aug 09 03:39 | |
| techrights-news | Maybe quit calling every computer program "HEY HI"? https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0hfz2bytx44/exclusive-india-recognises-ai-as-co-author-of-copyrighted-artwork When stenographers run 'the media'.... | Aug 09 03:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | Exclusive: India recognises AI as co-author of copyrighted artwork | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 09 03:41 | |
| AdmFubar | https://therecord.media/security-tools-showcased-at-black-hat-usa-2021/ | Aug 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-therecord.media | Security tools showcased at Black Hat USA 2021 - The Record by Recorded Future | Aug 09 03:42 | |
| XRevan86 | More Deny Hats | Aug 09 03:42 |
| techrights-news | #twitter #socialcontrolmedia and mobs against #justice and #law https://www.law.com/2021/08/04/whats-next-trial-tweets-before-testimony-two-rulings-spark-ai-patent-optimism-activision-blizzard-lawsuits-are-a-major-moment-for-gaming/ | Aug 09 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's Next: Trial Tweets Before Testimony? + Two Rulings Spark AI Patent Optimism + Activision Blizzard Lawsuits Are a Major Moment for Gaming | Law.com | Aug 09 03:42 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: is AllowHurst attending? | Aug 09 03:43 |
| schestowitz-TR | he moved back to Georgia | Aug 09 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | not that far from Vegas anymore... | Aug 09 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Near scientes? | Aug 09 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, his he there? | Aug 09 03:44 |
| XRevan86 | Unless he moved he was in Georgia, yes. | Aug 09 03:44 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC will soon start moaning again aboud Deny People | Aug 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: iirc, he was around costa rica | Aug 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then somewhere like georgia the country | Aug 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | not the state | Aug 09 03:45 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I meant the country, yes (: | Aug 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | AllowHurst studied in Rice (TX) iirc | Aug 09 03:45 |
| schestowitz-TR | but is from GA, USA | Aug 09 03:45 |
| DaemonFC | <schestowitz-TR> DaemonFC will soon start moaning again aboud Deny People | Aug 09 03:46 |
| DaemonFC | Denying all responsibility for their actions. | Aug 09 03:46 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Huh, like a prophet. | Aug 09 03:47 |
| AdmFubar | I'm off to view the insides of my eyelids... | Aug 09 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | gn | Aug 09 03:47 |
| AdmFubar | night all | Aug 09 03:47 |
| schestowitz-TR | 0/ | Aug 09 03:47 |
| XRevan86 | AdmFubar: Have a good one. | Aug 09 03:47 |
| AdmFubar | thanks | Aug 09 03:48 |
| *AdmFubar (~mradmin@ngqaam7baxnug.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 09 03:48 | |
| techrights-news | "As a member state of the EU, trademark protection in #Bulgaria is often achieved through the registration of an European Union Trademark." https://www.mondaq.com/trademark/1099476/the-advantages-of-registering-a-national-bulgarian-trademark #corruption in #euipo notwithstanding: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EUIPO | Aug 09 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | The Advantages Of Registering A National Bulgarian Trademark - Intellectual Property - Bulgaria | Aug 09 03:50 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EUIPO - Techrights | Aug 09 03:50 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: No one's written through the bridge in a long-long time. I'm almost upset that this bridge configuration is going to waste. | Aug 09 03:50 |
| techrights-news | Notice how #law / #litigation firms write 'the news' and are hailing countries only when they serve litigation agenda, e.g. "steps forward to catch up" ( #lobbying disguised as "news") https://www.bioworld.com/articles/510124-canadas-patent-system-steps-forward-to-catch-up?v=preview | Aug 09 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canada’s patent system steps forward to catch up | 2021-08-04 | BioWorld | Aug 09 03:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: maybe freenode will wake up and realise sasl is a mistake | Aug 09 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | and make it optional | Aug 09 03:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | though it's probably too late by now | Aug 09 03:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | those who left won't reattempt a connection | Aug 09 03:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: It's a liability, no one except for some very select few will ever try to give it a chance. | Aug 09 03:54 |
| techrights-news | There is no such thing as "IP Law"; he means #patent #law and this decision serves to discredit the law as it rewards bots, like high-frequency 'trading' that's gaming financial markets https://www.mondaq.com/unitedstates/patent/1099064/recent-developments-in-artificial-intelligence-and-ip-law-south-africa-grants-world39s-first-patent-for-ai-created-invention | Aug 09 03:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mondaq.com | Recent Developments In Artificial Intelligence And IP Law: South Africa Grants World's First Patent For AI-Created Invention - Intellectual Property - Worldwide | Aug 09 03:55 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: And I don't mean it in a "bad reputation" sense, but in that it will cause mysery to those who go near it. | Aug 09 03:56 |
| XRevan86 | I misspelt "misery" again. | Aug 09 03:56 |
| techrights-news | "Lawyers spearheading the patent applications for #DABUS spoke to Managing IP" and of course they did not bother speaking to critics; that's what propaganda mills do. https://www.managingip.com/article/b1t0vm20d76mg7/this-week-in-ip-dabus-team-on-ai-wins-thin-gruel-for-oatly-nintendo-settles-patent-suit | Aug 09 03:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.managingip.com | This week in IP: DABUS team on AI wins, thin gruel for Oatly, Nintendo settles patent suit | Managing Intellectual Property | Aug 09 03:57 | |
| XRevan86 | And people know it, so they won't. | Aug 09 03:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode is collapsing very fast | Aug 09 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | for almost a month it stayed above 60k | Aug 09 03:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | that mostly changed when the culls started | Aug 09 03:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | painting them as obv. untrusted actors | Aug 09 03:59 |
| XRevan86 | No one likes those who silence their critics. | Aug 09 04:00 |
| techrights-news | Totally stuffed or stacked by law firms https://patentlyo.com/hricik/2021/08/september-dennis-important.html | Aug 09 04:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | A September CLE in Salt Lake City with Dennis, Me, and Other Important People! | Patently-O | Aug 09 04:00 | |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 09 04:01 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 70504 total • Total pages: 37005 • Active: active (running) since Tue 2021-06-08 16:18:39 BST; 2 months 0 days ago | Aug 09 04:01 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (past 23 hours) calculated. TotalIn: 1.9 GB • TotalOut: 441 MB | Aug 09 04:01 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin just generated. It is about to be added to IPFS, hereon retrievable with CID | Aug 09 04:01 |
| techrights-news | When the media and debates are hijacked by one particular lobby group people will gradually walk away and the echo chamber see its cause floundering (lack of public support), quite frankly as usual. | Aug 09 04:02 |
| techrights-news | Stacked panel from #IBM front group for #patent extremism https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/ipo-webinar-on-common-ip-pitfalls-in-energy-industry-joint-ventures-and-collaborations.html | Aug 09 04:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: IPO Webinar on Common IP Pitfalls in Energy Industry Joint Ventures and Collaborations | Aug 09 04:03 | |
| techrights-news | "A stacked panel, on the other hand, is like a stacked deck: it is packed with people who, on the face of things, should be neutral, but who are in fact strong supporters of our technology." - #Microsoft http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/comes-3096.pdf | Aug 09 04:04 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | QmXBU6oKqgN1Lsd8vCX9iBHiUi66fm8iL3uXsJgyh4LH33 | Aug 09 04:05 |
| techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Sunday, August 08, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Aug 09 04:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Aug 09 04:05 | |
| techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Aug 09 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Aug 09 04:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▄▅▇▅▅▅▅▂▂▅▅▆▃▄▄▃▅▅▂▄▂▃▄▅▃▇▅▂▄▁▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 20.48 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▁▂▂▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▃▁▁▂▂█▁███▁ avg(k/sec) 58.18▕ swarm size (avg): 277.01 ⟲ | Aug 09 04:07 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Someone marked freenode as historical on Wikipedia. | Aug 09 04:08 |
| techrights-news | We ought not let #ubuntu be the 'default' #gnu #linux distro any longer. http://techrights.org/2021/07/09/canonical-ubuntu-microsoft/ | Aug 09 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Canonical Dooms the Ubuntu Brand to Appease Microsoft | Techrights | Aug 09 04:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: too early | Aug 09 04:08 |
| schestowitz-TR | there is still pulse | Aug 09 04:08 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ye're confusing pulse with agony. | Aug 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz | https://stallman.org/rss/rss.xml still broken | Aug 09 04:09 |
| schestowitz | and the front page shows an empty list at https://stallman.org/ | Aug 09 04:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Richard Stallman's Personal Page | Aug 09 04:10 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: wow | Aug 09 04:10 |
| schestowitz | 28 online in #techrights | Aug 09 04:10 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: But to be serious, ye're right, one can still connect to it, so it's not fully dead yet. | Aug 09 04:10 |
| schestowitz | it was 33 yesterday | Aug 09 04:10 |
| schestowitz | cubexyz is still there | Aug 09 04:10 |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 09 04:11 | |
| XRevan86 | Is cybrNaut there? | Aug 09 04:11 |
| XRevan86 | He expressed some views that make me concerned for his IRC presence :) | Aug 09 04:12 |
| XRevan86 | stop trying to sink with the ship, it's not going to do any good. | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | wallacer vallor slep rsheftel1435 psychedeliacrat mekkis lockeanarchist jkl includeals fleursdumal ebin brabo alynpost we're at #techrights in at irc.techrights.org (the IRC client needs to be configured to connect to it) in case freenode no longer lets you back in | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: clearly some people just lurk | Aug 09 04:13 |
| schestowitz | and don't realise there are no access restrictions | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | until they can no longer reconnect | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | and they might give up trying to re-establish the connection | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | IRC without anon access is no better than jabber | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | actually, the technical feature set of jabber is better | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | for irc speed of access and lack of barriers was an advantage | Aug 09 04:14 |
| schestowitz | irc.com takes away the selling points | Aug 09 04:15 |
| XRevan86 | XMPP's connections are distributed, they are more anonymous in some senses. | Aug 09 04:15 |
| schestowitz | and markets itself as broadening the reach of IRC? | Aug 09 04:15 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: yes, that too | Aug 09 04:15 |
| schestowitz | but XMPP isn't just some 'pick a nickname' thing | Aug 09 04:15 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the upside is that the channel in LC is dead | Aug 09 04:16 |
| schestowitz | more so than FN | Aug 09 04:16 |
| schestowitz | so we seem to have fully consolidated here | Aug 09 04:16 |
| XRevan86 | Yes, albeit IRC doesn't have quite the low barrier people want to think it does, because it has absolutely no backlog. | Aug 09 04:16 |
| schestowitz | and thus cannot be suppressed by entities which DO NOT CARE about our vocation | Aug 09 04:16 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: it can have that | Aug 09 04:17 |
| schestowitz | see /topic | Aug 09 04:17 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: techrights.org/irc is an interesting solution, yes | Aug 09 04:17 |
| schestowitz | thanks | Aug 09 04:17 |
| XRevan86 | I actually made use of it :) | Aug 09 04:17 |
| schestowitz | the medium itself is highly suitable for whispering | Aug 09 04:17 |
| schestowitz | like dropping of info | Aug 09 04:18 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: I make use of it if I drop my connection | Aug 09 04:18 |
| schestowitz | I used to do that from the CLI | Aug 09 04:18 |
| schestowitz | then all the same logs go to ipfs, gemini, text, and html | Aug 09 04:18 |
| XRevan86 | biboumi doesn't automatically reconnect, and irc.techrights.org dropped me two times. | Aug 09 04:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe at some stage we can look into ha | Aug 09 04:19 |
| schestowitz | h..a. | Aug 09 04:19 |
| XRevan86 | high-availability / load-balancing I assume. | Aug 09 04:19 |
| MinceR | ergo can also do some sort of backlog, iirc | Aug 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: didn't see it in the manuals | Aug 09 04:20 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: DaemonFC makes use of that, indeed. | Aug 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/ergoirc-manuals.txt | Aug 09 04:20 |
| schestowitz | backlog and scrollback not mentioned in the text | Aug 09 04:21 |
| XRevan86 | But that requires some know-how. So not for a complete novice. | Aug 09 04:21 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "History" | Aug 09 04:22 |
| schestowitz | we can implement our own enhancements | Aug 09 04:22 |
| schestowitz | over time | Aug 09 04:22 |
| schestowitz | " * Ergo stores message history for later retrieval." | Aug 09 04:22 |
| schestowitz | "1. The [IRCv3 chathistory specification](https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/chathistory) offers the most fine-grained control over history replay. It is supported by [Kiwi IRC](https://github.com/kiwiirc/kiwiirc), and hopefully other clients soon.' | Aug 09 04:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircv3.net | `chathistory` Extension - IRCv3 | Aug 09 04:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - kiwiirc/kiwiirc: 🥝 Next generation of the Kiwi IRC web client | Aug 09 04:23 | |
| schestowitz | "1. You can manually request history using `/history #channel 1h` (the parameter is either a message count or a time duration). (Depending on your client, you may need to use `/QUOTE history` instead.)" | Aug 09 04:23 |
| schestowitz | oh | Aug 09 04:23 |
| schestowitz | it works | Aug 09 04:23 |
| schestowitz | Try /history #techrights 1h | Aug 09 04:23 |
| schestowitz | it works! | Aug 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz | if only I knew... | Aug 09 04:24 |
| XRevan86 | The chathistory extension is actually interesting, because it is more universal and can be implemented transparently. | Aug 09 04:24 |
| schestowitz | 1. You can autoreplay a fixed number of lines (e.g., 25) each time you join a channel using `/msg NickServ set autoreplay-lines 25`. | Aug 09 04:25 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: so now you have a way to play things back | Aug 09 04:25 |
| schestowitz | no web browser needed | Aug 09 04:25 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder how that affects the timestamps of the messages. | Aug 09 04:25 |
| schestowitz | it shows me old timestamps when I run /history #techrights 1h | Aug 09 04:26 |
| schestowitz | but maybe in other IRC clients the time will be bypassed by the client side | Aug 09 04:26 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Regarding HA, I'm curious if ergo has *anything* for clustering. | Aug 09 04:27 |
| alynpost/fn | thank you schestowitz I'll make time this coming week to connect directly to irc.techrights.org. | Aug 09 04:28 |
| *XRevan86 found an explicit "no" in the documentation. Well-documented. | Aug 09 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | #Article17 contributes to the narrative of #eu working for US http://copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com/2021/07/26/what-member-states-can-learn-from-the-ag-opinion-on-article-17/ | Aug 09 04:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-copyrightblog.kluweriplaw.com | What Member States can learn from the AG opinion on Article 17 - Kluwer Copyright Blog | Aug 09 04:28 | |
| techrights-news | What can we learn about #Copyright #History from Whistler’s #Portrait of Lady Eden? https://www.create.ac.uk/blog/2021/07/26/what-can-we-learn-about-copyright-history-from-whistlers-portrait-of-lady-eden/ | Aug 09 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.create.ac.uk | What can we learn about Copyright History from Whistler’s Portrait of Lady Eden? – CREATe | Aug 09 04:29 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: do we have offisite backups of the ergo container? | Aug 09 04:30 |
| schestowitz | alynpost +1 | Aug 09 04:30 |
| Ariadne | no | Aug 09 04:32 |
| techrights-news | "As most readers must be aware by now, the Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on India’s IP regime has revealed a problematic, maximalist approach to IP [sic] protection" https://spicyip.com/2021/07/parliamentary-standing-committee-and-copyright-reform-one-step-forward-three-steps-back.html | Aug 09 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee and Copyright Reform: One Step Forward, Three Steps Back | SpicyIP | Aug 09 04:33 | |
| techrights-news | #india #selfharm for the #patent #cartel https://spicyip.com/2021/08/parliamentary-standing-committee-report-on-ipr-tipping-the-scales-of-patent-law-part-i.html #colonialism | Aug 09 04:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on IPR: Tipping the Scales of Patent Law? Part I | SpicyIP | Aug 09 04:35 | |
| techrights-news | Unnecessary overuse of the misnomer and propaganda term "IP"; just say patents instead https://spicyip.com/2021/08/parliamentary-standing-committee-report-on-ipr-tipping-the-scales-of-patent-law-part-ii.html | Aug 09 04:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on IPR: Tipping the Scales of Patent Law? Part II | SpicyIP | Aug 09 04:37 | |
| techrights-news | "I am sure many would have exclaimed with similar sentiment after reading the suggestions of the recent Parliamentary Standing Committee Report on Review of IPR regime in India, which suggests re-institution of #IPAB ." https://spicyip.com/2021/07/back-from-the-dead-parliamentary-committee-on-ip-suggests-against-scrapping-of-ipab.html | Aug 09 04:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Back from the Dead? Parliamentary Committee on IP suggests against scrapping of IPAB | SpicyIP | Aug 09 04:38 | |
| techrights-news | Of course nasty #ibm has been #lobbying FOR #swpats in #india http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Software_Patents_in_India | Aug 09 04:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in India - Techrights | Aug 09 04:39 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: there's some stuff there like user accounts that merits backup, I think, and I'm not sure which hv-side tools can help copy files across | Aug 09 04:40 |
| DaemonFC | This infrastructure bill will turn into a disaster. | Aug 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | The government pouring stimulus that's not paid for into an economy that's on the verge of hyperinflation. | Aug 09 04:42 |
| DaemonFC | This will not end well. | Aug 09 04:42 |
| techrights-news | "This is example of typical click-bait spreading false truths post…… only posting part of the story as a headline. They aren’t “mandating vaccines”. They are requiring them for entry into an office." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cecaatd#replies #ibm #redhat | Aug 09 04:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Red Hat issues vaccine mandate for employees - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 04:43 | |
| DaemonFC | I'm considering possibly buying more I-Bonds next time the rate resets though. | Aug 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | I expect them to be near 6%. | Aug 09 04:44 |
| DaemonFC | The ones I purchased back in February finally went up to 3.54. | Aug 09 04:44 |
| techrights-news | 0 A.D. Alpha 25 Released! Implement Single Player Campaigns [Ubuntu PPA] http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154283#comment-30494 | Aug 09 04:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GNU/Linux Gaming Predictions, Valve Steam Deck,and 0 A.D. | Tux Machines | Aug 09 04:46 | |
| techrights-news | "This final section of The Last Battle is deeply flawed, rather arrogant, a little bizarre, and involves more lectures on theology than precise description, but I still love it." https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-02-044210-6.html | Aug 09 04:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eyrie.org | Review: The Last Battle by C.S. Lewis | Aug 09 04:48 | |
| techrights-news | #eff should just urge everybody to #deleteFacebook instead, then preferably block the servers of the company https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/01/how-change-your-facebook-activity-settings | Aug 09 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | How to Change Your Off-Facebook Activity Settings | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Aug 09 04:51 | |
| techrights-news | 10 years ago: #WikiLeaks #Assange : #Facebook Is ";Appalling Spying Machine" - The Atlantic ⚓ https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/05/wikileaks-assange-facebook-is-appalling-spying-machine/238225/ ䷉ #theatlantic | Aug 09 04:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | WikiLeaks' Assange: Facebook Is 'Appalling Spying Machine' - The Atlantic | Aug 09 04:52 | |
| schestowitz-TR | oh, my email autoresponder still mentions freenode | Aug 09 05:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | I need to fix that | Aug 09 05:01 |
| *techrights-ipfs-bot (~techrights-ipfs-bot@qhduu73fcjmdn.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 09 05:01 | |
| DaemonFC | But Freenode is IRC. | Aug 09 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | For ~9,000 users and falling. | Aug 09 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | Why you make Freenode hurt you? | Aug 09 05:04 |
| DaemonFC | Freenode only wanna love you! | Aug 09 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | PIA is getting sketchy. | Aug 09 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | My bank and Amazon both block it now. | Aug 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | wow | Aug 09 05:05 |
| schestowitz-TR | screenshot? | Aug 09 05:05 |
| DaemonFC | No screenshot. The sites just won't load while I'm on any PIA server. | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's worth reporting on | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | ah, that is different | Aug 09 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | This happened when they switched to FreedomTech Solutions for all of their US servers. | Aug 09 05:06 |
| schestowitz-TR | I thought you could not make payments for PIA | Aug 09 05:06 |
| DaemonFC | Oh no, you can still do that. | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz-TR | DaemonFC: can you research this FreedomTech Solutions thing? | Aug 09 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's kind of difficult to look into this because their site is so non-specific as to what they really do. | Aug 09 05:07 |
| DaemonFC | It's a bunch of buzzwords and gobbledygook. | Aug 09 05:07 |
| schestowitz | https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278 | Aug 09 05:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Overview (free company information from Companies House) | Aug 09 05:07 | |
| schestowitz | goes 14 years back: https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history | Aug 09 05:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House) | Aug 09 05:08 | |
| schestowitz | have a look,DaemonFC | Aug 09 05:08 |
| schestowitz | see who or what you pay for | Aug 09 05:08 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▃▆▃▅▃▃▃▅▅▆▁▆▅▆▆▁▂▅▆▅▄▅▄▅▆▅▅▅▅▅▂▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 22.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂█▂▁▂▁▁▂▂▁▂█▂▁▂▃▂▃█▁▂▂▃▄▂▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▂▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 59.76▕ swarm size (avg): 276.94 ⟲ | Aug 09 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Inderjiit Singh Kambo | Aug 09 05:09 |
| DaemonFC | Did a search. Heh. | Aug 09 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | Well, it seems like something big happened at PIA and not for the better. | Aug 09 05:10 |
| DaemonFC | Max-P disappeared a long time ago and now their site has been completely redesigned. | Aug 09 05:10 |
| schestowitz | see page 4 of https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/document-api-images-live.ch.gov.uk/docs/jSUi1tz5l42Dr5XmiXqIZMhOuWMbkbqYJetpcfFM7QA/application-pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=ASIAWRGBDBV3EWUUMGO3%2F20210809%2Feu-west-2%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20210809T041418Z&X-Amz-Expires=60&X-Amz-Security-Token=IQoJb3JpZ2luX2VjEIP%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2F%2FwEaCWV1LXdlc3QtMiJIMEYCIQDl6cMufM6TejtNXy1MDupAjE2IMorPtILvYftTuzyy% | Aug 09 05:15 |
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| schestowitz | closed too late | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | sorry | Aug 09 05:15 |
| schestowitz | stupid AWS URLs | Aug 09 05:16 |
| schestowitz | https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 | Aug 09 05:16 |
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| schestowitz | see page 4 | Aug 09 05:16 |
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| techrights-news | #PIA , the #VPN that owns #freenode and is now owned by #kape (malicious software firm), now routes all US #internet traffic through this company https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 | Aug 09 05:18 |
| schestowitz-TR | Thank you for flying KAPE, aka PIA | Aug 09 05:21 |
| techrights-news | This is the company that handles all the US traffic of #PIA (maybe because the US govt. took Kape to court, though one can also guess) https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history | Aug 09 05:22 |
| techrights-news | The company that handles all the US traffic of #PIA is without assets anymore https://tinyurl.com/juctszye #freenode #kape | Aug 09 05:25 |
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| techrights-news | The government keeps telling us that #vpn users are dodgy, but I'd argue they're nowhere as dodgy as the VPN companies. | Aug 09 05:26 |
| techrights-news | "Piano Factory’s director noted around 2001 that nobody was making #Schiedmayer brand #pianos any longer and assumed the mark must have been abandoned." https://patentlyo.com/patent/2021/08/mining-history-brand.html | Aug 09 05:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patentlyo.com | Mining History for your Brand Name | Patently-O | Aug 09 05:28 | |
| techrights-news | Latest in the madness of trying to monopolise life through #CRISPR 'invention' https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/08/broad-files-contingent-preliminary-motion-no-2-in-crispr-interference.html #patent #monopolies #patents | Aug 09 05:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Broad Files Contingent Preliminary Motion No. 2 in CRISPR Interference | Aug 09 05:30 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▄▅▁▅▁▃▁▃▄▆▃▆▁▂▂▅▂▄▁▁▂▁▂▂▆▅▆▄▃▅▅▅▃▄▅▆▁ avg(k/sec) 28.85 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁█▂▆▁█▁▂▁▂██▂▅▄▅█▄▁▁▂▂█▂▁▂▁▂█▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 87.93▕ swarm size (avg): 276.89 ⟲ | Aug 09 06:07 |
| techrights-news | An #EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part III: A Longtime Associate of the Doyen • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ ䷉ #Techrights #europe #corruption #patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ | Aug 09 06:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | An EPO Administrative Council Exposé — Part III: A Longtime Associate of the Doyen | Techrights | Aug 09 06:28 | |
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| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▃▄▁▂▄▆▅▄▃▄▄▅▆▁▂▃▅▁▂▄▅▂▅▅▁▂▃▄▅▆▅▂▂▃▃▄▅▁ avg(k/sec) 18.43 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▄▅▂█▂▂▂▁▂▁▁▂▁█▂████▁▁▁█▁▂▂▂▂██▁▃▁ avg(k/sec) 116.60▕ swarm size (avg): 276.86 ⟲ | Aug 09 07:07 |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] Competition for the ‘Doyen’ (in the Boardroom or the Bedroom?) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/doyen-of-croatia/ #epo #croatia #corruption #patent #nepotism | Aug 09 07:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Competition for the ‘Doyen’ (in the Boardroom or the Bedroom?) | Techrights | Aug 09 07:25 | |
| techrights-news | [Meme] Stop Giving Code to Microsoft’s #GitHub • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ | Aug 09 07:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Stop Giving Code to Microsoft’s GitHub | Techrights | Aug 09 07:41 | |
| techrights-news | #DeleteGithub page to reach 100k views soon. We've barely even linked to it. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Delete_Github | Aug 09 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Delete Github - Techrights | Aug 09 07:43 | |
| techrights-news | Have #bbc and #guardian repudiated #billgates for his abuses yet? Or are they licking his boots some more for the next round of #bribery (they're long been bribed by him, with conditions)? | Aug 09 07:44 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TorrentFreak #copyright #copyrights ☞ Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 https://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-firm-asks-google-to-block-127-0-0-1-210808/ | Aug 09 07:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Anti-Piracy Firm Asks Google to Block 127.0.0.1 * TorrentFreak | Aug 09 07:47 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #AralBalkan #privacy ☞ #Apple is trying to redefine what it means to violate your privacy. We must not let it. https://ar.al/2021/08/08/apple-is-trying-to-redefine-what-it-means-to-violate-your-privacy-we-must-not-let-it/ | Aug 09 07:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ar.al | Apple is trying to redefine what it means to violate your privacy. We must not let it. – Aral Balkan | Aug 09 07:55 | |
| techrights-news | “ #NorthMacedonia was immensely gratifying for #Battistelli and it allowed him to indulge his personal vanity because he usually got to rub shoulders with high level politicians rather than just “mere” civil servants in charge of the national IPO.” http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/macedonia-votes-for-sale/ | Aug 09 07:57 |
| techrights-news | A culture of overt #nepotism goes beyond the #EPO . #ŽeljkoTopić is alleged to have had an affair with #LjiljanaKuterovac (there are court documents detailing this extramarital relationship) http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/doyen-of-croatia/ | Aug 09 07:58 |
| techrights-news | Now that #Microsoft uses #GitHub to encourage #GPL violations it’s time to reassess the alleged ‘safety’ of #outsourcing code to Microsoft http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/gnu-linux-as-hostage/ #deletegithub | Aug 09 07:59 |
| techrights-news | Latest #techrights videos (past 7 days) http://techrights.org/videos/ | Aug 09 08:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full Videos Index | Aug 09 08:04 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▃▄▅▁▇▄▅▅▃▄▅▂▅▄▄▅▃▁▂▅▃▂▄▅▁▆▂▂▃▄▄▅▄▄▁▁ avg(k/sec) 17.83 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▂▅▁▂█▂▂▁▁▂█▁▁▂▂█▁▂▁█▁▂▁▂▁█▁▁▃▁▂▆▁ avg(k/sec) 68.75▕ swarm size (avg): 276.81 ⟲ | Aug 09 08:07 |
| techrights-news | #apple #surveillance https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/an-honest-conversation-on-apple,:2 I wonder what excuses card-carry'i'ing cult members will make... | Aug 09 08:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | An honest conversation on Apple, hashing, & privacy with Daniel Smullen | Aug 09 08:09 | |
| techrights-news | This is who danielsmullen is https://daniel-smullen.com/#pub | Aug 09 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-daniel-smullen.com | Daniel Smullen | Aug 09 08:10 | |
| techrights-news | The U.S. Is Now Averaging 100,000 New #COVID19 Infections A Day https://text.npr.org/1025753258 #npr averages many bribes per day, too https://www.cjr.org/criticism/gates-foundation-journalism-funding.php | Aug 09 08:11 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | The U.S. Is Now Averaging 100,000 New COVID-19 Infections A Day | Aug 09 08:11 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cjr.org | Journalism’s Gates keepers - Columbia Journalism Review | Aug 09 08:11 | |
| techrights-news | #golug 2021 http://troubleshooters.com/linux/presentations/golug_software_guide_20210807.tgz #gnu #linux | Aug 09 08:13 |
| techrights-news | #microsoft is a huge liability. Those who do not delete everything from #windows to fake #email like Exchange/Outlook will pay dearly http://blog.orange.tw/2021/08/proxylogon-a-new-attack-surface-on-ms-exchange-part-1.html see how Microsoft embraced #racism as a PR strategy http://techrights.org/2021/03/03/microsoft-blame-shifting-tactics/ | Aug 09 08:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.orange.tw | Orange: A New Attack Surface on MS Exchange Part 1 - ProxyLogon! | Aug 09 08:14 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Weaponises (and Further Spreads) Racism to Distract From Its Own Incompetence (and ‘Five Eyes’ Collusion for Back Door Access) | Techrights | Aug 09 08:14 | |
| schestowitz | x https://edition.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/08/07/faa-urges-airports-to-monitor-alcohol-intake.cnn | Aug 09 08:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | Unruly passengers cause FAA to request airports monitor alcohol use - CNN Video | Aug 09 08:15 | |
| schestowitz | # trying to distract from the bad treatment from the airlines and the tsa, | Aug 09 08:15 |
| schestowitz | # both of which stress out the passengers | Aug 09 08:15 |
| techrights-news | ##HowTo Enable Minimize, Maximize Window Buttons in elementary OS • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154305 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Enable Minimize, Maximize Window Buttons in elementary OS | Tux Machines | Aug 09 08:21 | |
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| techrights-news | #Google #Android Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154306 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 08:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 09 08:32 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #JamieBrandon #Databases ☞ Implicit ordering in relational languages https://scattered-thoughts.net/writing/implicit-ordering-in-relational-languages/ | Aug 09 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-scattered-thoughts.net | Implicit ordering in relational languages | Aug 09 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #JonUdell #Databases ☞ Working with #Postgres types https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/07/27/working-with-postgres-types/ #psql | Aug 09 09:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | Working with Postgres types – Jon Udell | Aug 09 09:12 | |
| techrights-news | ● [Old] ● #NoelRappin #Databases ☞ Databases and Validation and Uncertainty https://noelrappin.com/blog/2021/07/databases-and-validation-and-uncertainty/ | Aug 09 09:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-noelrappin.com | Databases and Validation and Uncertainty – Noel Rappin Writes Here | Aug 09 09:13 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #JonUdell #Programming ☞ A beautiful power tool to scrape, clean, and combine data https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/08/01/a-beautiful-power-tool-to-scrape-clean-and-combine-data/ | Aug 09 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | A beautiful power tool to scrape, clean, and combine data – Jon Udell | Aug 09 09:15 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #SolomonBothwell #Programming ☞ A Brief Intro to Monad Transformers https://blog.cofree.coffee/2021-08-05-a-brief-intro-to-monad-transformers/ | Aug 09 09:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.cofree.coffee | A Brief Intro to Monad Transformers | Aug 09 09:16 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #JonUdell #Standards ☞ The Tao of #Unicode Sparklines https://blog.jonudell.net/2021/08/05/the-tao-of-unicode-sparklines/ | Aug 09 09:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jonudell.net | The Tao of Unicode Sparklines – Jon Udell | Aug 09 09:18 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #TimesHigherEducation #Education ☞ Preventing student cheating will require more than HEY HI or legislation https://www.timeshighereducation.com/opinion/universities-can-cut-plagiarism-working-students-unions-raise-awareness-contract-cheating | Aug 09 09:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.timeshighereducation.com | Preventing student cheating will require more than AI or legislation | Times Higher Education (THE) | Aug 09 09:23 | |
| wallacer | schestowitz: I'm not idling lol | Aug 09 09:24 |
| schestowitz-TR | hi 0/ | Aug 09 09:25 |
| wallacer | :O instant reply | Aug 09 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | freenode is fast drying up | Aug 09 09:25 |
| schestowitz-TR | to the point where we might assume it can be decommisioned by year's end | Aug 09 09:25 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #CNBC #Hardware ☞ #Google is planning a new #SiliconValley campus with hardware hub, plans show https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/06/google-planning-silicon-valley-campus-hardware-lab.html | Aug 09 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Google planning Silicon Valley campus, hardware lab | Aug 09 09:26 | |
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| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #India #Hardware ☞ #Google planning a huge hardware #RandD hub in Silicon Valley https://telanganatoday.com/google-planning-a-huge-hardware-rd-hub-in-silicon-valley | Aug 09 09:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-telanganatoday.com | Google planning a huge hardware R&D hub in Silicon Valley | Aug 09 09:26 | |
| techrights-news | 𝔗𝔢𝔠𝔥𝔯𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔰 #IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 08, 2021 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/irc-log-080821/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/irc-log-080821/ | Aug 09 09:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Sunday, August 08, 2021 | Techrights | Aug 09 09:28 | |
| wallacer | they kinda did it to themselves | Aug 09 09:29 |
| wallacer | I was on their side until they ruined themselves | Aug 09 09:29 |
| wallacer | why is beyond my understanding | Aug 09 09:29 |
| schestowitz-TR | at the point they banned and took over channels | Aug 09 09:29 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #taiwannews #taiwan #tw #china ☞ Chinese ICT products to be banned at #Taiwan ’s government facilities by end of year https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4266333 | Aug 09 09:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Chinese ICT products to be banned at Taiwan’s government facilities by end of year | Taiwan News | 2021-08-08 11:36:00 | Aug 09 09:30 | |
| schestowitz-TR | wallacer: likely ego-tripping and lack of tact | Aug 09 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | if not insiders working against freenode/lee | Aug 09 09:30 |
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| schestowitz-TR | apparently phanes/bagira was an in-house troublemaker | Aug 09 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | looking to settle persoanl scores | Aug 09 09:30 |
| schestowitz-TR | no vetting-> self-harm | Aug 09 09:30 |
| wallacer | tomaw is not really sane too on the libera side | Aug 09 09:31 |
| wallacer | IRC seems to be on a suicide path | Aug 09 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | it's free software | Aug 09 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | we can run it | Aug 09 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | but distros might stop packaging irc clients | Aug 09 09:31 |
| wallacer | the community optics aren't looking good | Aug 09 09:31 |
| schestowitz-TR | like they barely package gemini clients | Aug 09 09:31 |
| techrights-news | This is a badge of shame for #SouthAfrica , not an honour at all. It makes the country seem like it has no clue what the hell it's doing and how #patent #law works (or what it's for). https://www.businesstoday.in/technology/news/story/in-a-world-first-south-africa-accords-patent-to-an-artificial-intelligence-system-303609-2021-08-08 | Aug 09 09:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businesstoday.in | In a world first, South Africa accords patent to an artificial intelligence system - BusinessToday | Aug 09 09:36 | |
| techrights-news | Taking ideas to one's grave for the sake of money and power https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897949 | Aug 09 09:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | The Value in Secrecy by Camilla Alexandra Hrdy :: SSRN | Aug 09 09:43 | |
| techrights-news | Today's #patent system is no longer about #innovation but #protectionism for large companies with tons of lousy and #fakepatents that favour a side with more legal budget https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/08/our-patent-system-is-broken-it-could-be-stifling-innovation/ #bezos like it as it is and controls this publication | Aug 09 09:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Our patent system is broken. And it could be stifling innovation. - The Washington Post | Aug 09 09:45 | |
| techrights-news | Quit allowing the #litigation giants (and oligarchs they front for) paint their #Monopolies and #Protectionism with the "tolerance" brush. All that #greenwashing and #pinkwashing harms those who serve the REAL causes. | Aug 09 09:47 |
| techrights-news | 2021: we now have "open" and "green" and "gay-friendly" and "anti-racist" and "feminist" #patent #monopolies that kill people not rich enough to afford the monopolised treatment/medicine. #openwashing #greenwashing #pinkwashing | Aug 09 09:49 |
| gustaf | Gemini is really new | Aug 09 09:52 |
| gustaf | but yeah I lack a good client | Aug 09 09:52 |
| gustaf | lynx or w3m needs Gemini support | Aug 09 09:52 |
| gustaf | something that's familiar | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | tell them | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is easy to implement | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they have dozens of implementations they can fused into their project | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | *fuse | Aug 09 09:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | a crude implementation would be once day of coding and testing | Aug 09 09:54 |
| gustaf | https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lynx-dev/2020-09/msg00016.html | Aug 09 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.nongnu.org | Re: [Lynx-dev] Gemini Support? | Aug 09 09:55 | |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #Salon #Misinformation #Disinformation ☞ A terrifying new theory: #fakenews and #conspiracytheories as an evolutionary strategy https://www.salon.com/2021/08/08/a-terrifying-new-theory-fake-news-and-conspiracy-theories-as-an-evolutionary-strategy/ | Aug 09 09:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A terrifying new theory: Fake news and conspiracy theories as an evolutionary strategy | Salon.com | Aug 09 09:55 | |
| gustaf | too much NIH | Aug 09 09:55 |
| gustaf | that's the lynx lead dev btw | Aug 09 09:55 |
| gustaf | people who are excited about Gemini don't want to hack ancient C code | Aug 09 09:56 |
| gustaf | they wanna use Rust | Aug 09 09:56 |
| techrights-news | 'Mike' #Bloomberg the oligarch has hired another patent maximalist, Matthew Bultman, to work as a reporter alongside the booster Susan Decker. They're more like lobbyists than journalists. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-06/apple-wins-ruling-voiding-patent-in-308-5-million-case | Aug 09 09:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Aug 09 09:57 | |
| gustaf | doesn't look like w3m are interested either | Aug 09 09:58 |
| techrights-news | Good riddance to #fakepatents https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/supreme-court-of-canada-denies-amgen-7512296/ #uspto #patents #canada | Aug 09 10:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Supreme Court of Canada denies Amgen leave to appeal decision invalidating its filgrastim patent | Smart & Biggar - JDSupra | Aug 09 10:00 | |
| techrights-news | "The employment agreement between professor Mohammed Islam and the university didn't automatically assign his #patents to it, and #Apple couldn't escape the case based on a lack of standing" https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/apple-must-face-apple-watch-patent-claims-fed-circ-affirms-2021-08-02/ | Aug 09 10:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple must face Apple Watch patent claims, Fed Circ. affirms | Reuters | Aug 09 10:01 | |
| techrights-news | Reaffirming the fact that #swpats are #fakepatents https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/08/06/apple-challenges-patent-troll-targeting-maps-navigation #apple #patentTrolls #uspto | Aug 09 10:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple challenges patent troll targeting Maps navigation | AppleInsider | Aug 09 10:02 | |
| schestowitz-TR | gustaf: there are implementations in many languages | Aug 09 10:04 |
| schestowitz-TR | we use bash and perl | Aug 09 10:04 |
| techrights-news | ● NEWS ● #uniToronto #Internet ☞ Some thoughts on new top-level domains being used for spam https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/spam/NewTLDsAndSpamForMe | Aug 09 10:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/spam/NewTLDsAndSpamForMe | Aug 09 10:08 | |
| schestowitz-TR | gustaf: I can do C | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | but it's overkill for gemini | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | because gemini is really very simple | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | and CLI implementations do make sense | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | gemini is good for the environment | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | lowers transmission and client-side work | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | backups etc. | Aug 09 10:09 |
| schestowitz-TR | better than that laughable "dark mode" hype | Aug 09 10:10 |
| schestowitz-TR | surely a passing fad | Aug 09 10:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | what's better than dark mode? a SMART "dark mode" with HEY HI on the CLOWN | Aug 09 10:14 |
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| techrights-news | Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ | Aug 09 10:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Scrollback in Techrights IRC (4 Methods) | Techrights | Aug 09 10:58 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: what was that url you got freenode graphs from? | Aug 09 11:08 |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] Freenode Down to 4-Digit Usercount (Down 90% Since May) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ | Aug 09 11:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Freenode Down to 4-Digit Usercount (Down 90% Since May) | Techrights | Aug 09 11:25 | |
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| techrights-news | Links 9/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC5, SME Server 10.0 Reviewed • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/review-sme-server-10-0/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/review-sme-server-10-0/ | Aug 09 11:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/8/2021: Linux 5.14 RC5, SME Server 10.0 Reviewed | Techrights | Aug 09 11:46 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154307 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 11:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 09 11:50 | |
| techrights-news | Today in #Techrights • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154308 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 11:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux Machines | Aug 09 11:54 | |
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| techrights-news | For reasons unknown to anyone, #Freenode continues to destroy itself; mandating registration ( #IRCcom ) has halved the number of online users (running the /lusers command shows the output below) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ ䷉ #Techrights #Internet #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/its-still-over-9000/ | Aug 09 12:18 |
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| techrights-news | [Meme] The Administrative Council’s Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up #EPO Staff http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ #corruption #europe #patents #bribery | Aug 09 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Administrative Council’s Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up EPO Staff | Techrights | Aug 09 12:59 | |
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| schestowitz | Scrolling up/back in #IRC (seeing things that happened while one was offline or after temporarily dropping the connection) is totally possible; herein we explain how that’s done by the user (it’s implemented as per #IRCv3 specifications) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/ircv3-irc-scrollback/ | Aug 09 13:01 |
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| techrights-news | #AMD #FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) comes to the PlayStation 3 emulator RPCS3 | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-fsr-comes-to-the-playstation-3-emulator-rpcs3 ䷉ #GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 13:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) comes to the PlayStation 3 emulator RPCS3 | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 13:15 | |
| blitzed | !COFFEE | Aug 09 13:16 |
| schestowitz-TR | good luck? | Aug 09 13:16 |
| techrights-news | "Another tick in the box for #Wayland to eventually properly replace #X11 for all workloads, as the work on DRM lease protocol support aimed at VR has been merged in." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/wayland-gets-drm-lease-protocol-support-to-help-vr-on-linux | Aug 09 13:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wayland gets DRM lease protocol support to help VR on Linux | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 13:16 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154309 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 13:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 09 13:18 | |
| techrights-news | #Razer Peripherals Config App For Linux Polychromatic Sees First Major Stable Release In Three Years - #Linux Uprising Blog ⚓ https://www.linuxuprising.com/2021/08/razer-peripherals-config-app-for-linux.html | Aug 09 13:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxuprising.com | Razer Peripherals Config App For Linux Polychromatic Sees First Major Stable Release In Three Years - Linux Uprising Blog | Aug 09 13:19 | |
| blitzed | hiya schestowitz-TR /0 | Aug 09 13:20 |
| techrights-news | "Nepos Games have announced that their city-builder Nebuchadnezzar, which was inspired by the likes of Pharaoh, will be getting another big free update on September 15." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/isometric-city-builder-nebuchadnezzar-gets-fire-crime-a-diseases-on-september-15 | Aug 09 13:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Isometric city-builder Nebuchadnezzar gets Fire, Crime & Diseases on September 15 | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 13:20 | |
| techrights-news | The #SteamDeck is already having a BIG impact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLaHpCNQFUU #gnu #linux #games | Aug 09 13:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Steam Deck is already having a BIG impact. - YouTube | Aug 09 13:21 | |
| techrights-news | #Mesa 21.0, Linux 5.11 Prepared For #Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Updates - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.04.3-LTS-Coming ䷉ #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux | Aug 09 13:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mesa 21.0, Linux 5.11 Prepared For Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Updates - Phoronix | Aug 09 13:23 | |
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| techrights-news | #Games: Polychromatic, Nebuchadnezzar, and Steam Deck • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154310 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Polychromatic, Nebuchadnezzar, and Steam Deck | Tux Machines | Aug 09 14:34 | |
| techrights-news | #Graphics: Mesa, Wayland, AMD • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154311 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 14:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Graphics: Mesa, Wayland, AMD | Tux Machines | Aug 09 14:34 | |
| techrights-news | #intel has been such a failure https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/intel-atom-x5-z8350-sbc-50-dollars/ | Aug 09 14:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Intel Atom x5-Z8350 SBC sells for as low as $50 shipped - CNX Software | Aug 09 14:36 | |
| techrights-news | "This article demonstrates how to write a simplified static analyzer in Dyninst." https://developers.redhat.com/articles/2021/08/09/debugging-function-parameters-dyninst | Aug 09 14:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Debugging function parameters with Dyninst | Red Hat Developer | Aug 09 14:37 | |
| techrights-news | "Plus how #PipeWire will improve day-to-day desktop life, Google's push for more kernel investments, and a lot more." https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/145802/linux-action-news-201/ | Aug 09 14:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 201 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Aug 09 14:39 | |
| techrights-news | NMState: A declarative networking config tool - Fedora Magazine ⚓ https://fedoramagazine.org/nmstate-a-declarative-networking-config-tool/ ䷉ #Fedora #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linuxmagazine | Aug 09 14:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fedoramagazine.org | NMState: A declarative networking config tool - Fedora Magazine | Aug 09 14:40 | |
| techrights-news | Forcing Linux system password changes with the #chage command | Enable Sysadmin ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/password-changes-chage-command ䷉ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | Aug 09 14:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Forcing Linux system password changes with the chage command | Enable Sysadmin | Aug 09 14:41 | |
| techrights-news | ䷉ #enterprisersproject would be better off just avoiding this buzzword https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2021/8/devsecops-pitfalls | Aug 09 14:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 8 DevSecOps pitfalls to avoid | The Enterprisers Project | Aug 09 14:42 | |
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| techrights-news | My First Impression When Using Archcraft Linux! • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154313 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 14:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | My First Impression When Using Archcraft Linux! | Tux Machines | Aug 09 14:54 | |
| techrights-news | #IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154312 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 14:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora Leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 09 14:55 | |
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| techrights-news | The corrupt elements of the EPO have penetrated the Administrative Council, which was supposed to oversee the Office (and be able to remove risk) • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-run-by-gangsters/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO #Patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-run-by-gangsters/ | Aug 09 14:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Corruption Virus at the EPO, Europe’s Largest and Most Important Patent Office | Techrights | Aug 09 14:56 | |
| techrights-news | Maybe the Administrative Council will hold EPO management accountable. Or maybe not… • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ ䷉ #Techrights #Europe #Corruption #EPO #Patents | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/epo-hiding-problems/ | Aug 09 14:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] The Administrative Council’s Strategy for Saving the EPO: Paying Up (Bribing) the Media and Lawyering Up EPO Staff | Techrights | Aug 09 14:57 | |
| psydruid | > [notice] The Steam Deck is already having a BIG impact. - YouTube | Aug 09 14:59 |
| psydruid | M$ shills are heavily complaining about "unfair competition" and "having an agenda" (LOL) from Valve in NL, I don't know how that is in so-called tech media around the world | Aug 09 14:59 |
| techrights-news | #ROS2 is #Ubuntu #GNU / #Linux based https://www.roboticstomorrow.com/news/2021/08/09/ros2-on-site-training-ros2-basics-ros2-nav2-manipulation-with-movelt2/17284/ | Aug 09 14:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ROS2 On-Site Training: ROS2 Basics + ROS2 Nav2 + Manipulation with Movelt2 | RoboticsTomorrow | Aug 09 14:59 | |
| schestowitz-TR | psydruid: maybe Microsft sites wrote about it | Aug 09 15:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | very coy | Aug 09 15:00 |
| techrights-news | Seq is #GNU #coreutils rather than "Command in Linux" https://linuxhandbook.com/seq-command/ | Aug 09 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxhandbook.com | Seq Command in Linux [Explained With Examples] | Aug 09 15:01 | |
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| techrights-news | #Ripgrep needs to #deletegithub https://www.linuxshelltips.com/ripgrep-search-tool-linux/ #ProprietarySoftware that promotes #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Aug 09 15:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxshelltips.com | Ripgrep – The Fastest Command Line Search Tool for Linux | Aug 09 15:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights | Aug 09 15:02 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▆▅▁▂▅▂▆▄▆▁▆▃▆▅▅▃▅▆▅▃▅▅▄▅▅▂▃▄▅▅▂▅▁ avg(k/sec) 20.68 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂█▂▂▂▂▁▂▁▂▃▂▂▃▂▂▁██▁▂█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 112.13▕ swarm size (avg): 276.62 ⟲ | Aug 09 15:07 |
| techrights-news | Disappointing but not so shocking (given its history) to see #dedoimedo shilling some #microsoft #vapourware in 'howto' form. #vista11 #hype | Aug 09 15:07 |
| techrights-news | #Rav1e needs to #deletegithub https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Rav1e-0.5-Beta it also drags in #rustlang which is promoting and spreading #microsoft #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Aug 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rav1e 0.5 Beta Released For This Rust-Written AV1 Encoder - Phoronix | Aug 09 15:10 | |
| techrights-news | #Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154314 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 15:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:10 | |
| techrights-news | Linux Release Roundup #21.32: Nitrux 1.5.1, GNOME Web Canary, and More New Releases http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154094#comment-30495 | Aug 09 15:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Release Announcement: Nitrux 1.5.1 | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:13 | |
| MinceR | 09 103108 < wallacer> IRC seems to be on a suicide path | Aug 09 15:16 |
| MinceR | IRC isn't | Aug 09 15:16 |
| MinceR | major networks are | Aug 09 15:16 |
| MinceR | but the major networks have sucked for ages, so who cares | Aug 09 15:17 |
| techrights-news | Contribute to #OpenStreetMap from #surveillance devices with back doors (which you think you own) https://opensource.com/article/21/8/streetcomplete-quests | Aug 09 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Contribute to OpenStreetMap from your phone | Opensource.com | Aug 09 15:18 | |
| techrights-news | PICO DSP is an #Arduino compatible #ESP32 development board for audio and DSP applications (Crowdfunding) https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/pico-dsp-arduino-esp32-development-board-audio-dsp/ | Aug 09 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | PICO DSP is an Arduino compatible ESP32 development board for audio and DSP applications (Crowdfunding) - CNX Software | Aug 09 15:19 | |
| techrights-news | #RadeonSI Lands Regression Fix For ~10x Higher CPU Usage For Some Games • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154315 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 15:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | RadeonSI Lands Regression Fix For ~10x Higher CPU Usage For Some Games | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:20 | |
| techrights-news | "Love #LibreOffice too? Want to help us spread the word about it, and other #freesw projects?" https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2021/08/09/community-member-monday-jesse-moreira/ | Aug 09 15:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.documentfoundation.org | Community Member Monday: Jessé Moreira - The Document Foundation Blog | Aug 09 15:22 | |
| techrights-news | "The board runs #Linux on Qualcomm QCS603 IoT processor for [buzzword] and #computervision applications" https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/09/compact-h-265-4k-video-encoder-is-made-for-embedded-medical-and-military-applications/ | Aug 09 15:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Compact H.265 4K video encoder is made for embedded, medical, and military applications - CNX Software | Aug 09 15:23 | |
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| techrights-news | #Synopsys Looks To Remove Oldest ARC CPU Support From The Linux Kernel - Phoronix ⚓ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ARC750-Drop-Linux-Patches ䷉ Synopsys are anti- #linux provocateurs and parasites with #microsoft connections http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Black_Duck | Aug 09 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Synopsys Looks To Remove Oldest ARC CPU Support From The Linux Kernel - Phoronix | Aug 09 15:25 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Black Duck - Techrights | Aug 09 15:25 | |
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| techrights-news | #SouthAfrica eager to show that it has the very dumbest #patent office in the world https://qz.com/africa/2044477/south-africa-grants-patent-to-an-ai-system-known-as-dabus/ also see http://techrights.org/wiki/Software_Patents_in_South_Africa | Aug 09 15:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qz.com | South Africa grants patent to an AI system known as DABUS — Quartz Africa | Aug 09 15:27 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Software Patents in South Africa - Techrights | Aug 09 15:27 | |
| techrights-news | Does #SouthAfrica media even realise that this is a badge of shame? They got tricked or trolled into doing something phenomenally stupid. https://citizen.co.za/lifestyle/technology/2588709/dabus-south-africa-approved-the-worlds-first-ai-invented-patent/ | Aug 09 15:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-citizen.co.za | DABUS: South Africa approved the world's first AI-invented patent | Aug 09 15:29 | |
| techrights-news | #Australia courts got rick-rolled and gave a go-ahead to something that makes them look like the world's joke, incapable of understanding they give #patents to bots because of stupid #buzzwords https://dcc.com/news-and-insights/one-small-step-for-man-one-giant-leap-for-ai-australian-court-finds-dabus-can-be-an-inventor/ | Aug 09 15:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dcc.com | One small step for man, one giant leap for AI: Australian Court finds DABUS can be an inventor - Davies Collison Cave | Aug 09 15:31 | |
| techrights-news | This list self-nuke for promoting a #scam called #DuckDuckGo https://www.maketecheasier.com/best-deep-web-search-engines/ stop pushing this #microsoft #fraud ! They're tricking people into self-harm. http://techrights.org/2021/03/15/duckduckgo-in-2021/ | Aug 09 15:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | The 11 Best Deep Web Search Engines to Find What Google Can't - Make Tech Easier | Aug 09 15:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Why You Should Avoid DuckDuckGo (DDG) 2021 Edition, Now Microsoft-Hosted and With Extra Privacy Risks | Techrights | Aug 09 15:34 | |
| techrights-news | Play #SNES SPC audio files from your browser using original hardware and Arduino | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/08/09/play-snes-spc-audio-files-from-your-browser-using-original-hardware-and-arduino/ ䷉ #Arduino #Hardware #OpenHardware #Hacking | Aug 09 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Play SNES SPC audio files from your browser using original hardware and Arduino | Arduino Blog | Aug 09 15:35 | |
| techrights-news | Feeling Bored? You Can Play Tetris on the Linux Terminal • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154316 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 15:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Feeling Bored? You Can Play Tetris on the Linux Terminal | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:40 | |
| techrights-news | #Windows Update is technically a botnet of #malware and I fail to see why anybody with technical skill would allow such malicious programs on one's PC. #GNU #Linux is vastly better in every way. https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/windows-delivery-optimization.html | Aug 09 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | How to make Windows Update prioritize Delivery Optimization downloads | Aug 09 15:41 | |
| techrights-news | Download mp3 files linked in a RSS podcast feed https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/25469/download-mp3-files-linked-in-a-rss-podcast-feed | Aug 09 15:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commandlinefu.com | Download mp3 files linked in a RSS podcast feed Using grep, sort, xargs | Aug 09 15:43 | |
| techrights-news | Ben Hutchings: #Debian LTS work, July 2021 https://www.decadent.org.uk/ben/blog/debian-lts-work-july-2021.html #gnu #linux | Aug 09 15:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.decadent.org.uk | Better living through software - Ben Hutchings's diary of life and technology | Aug 09 15:44 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: The graphs broke. | Aug 09 15:46 |
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| XRevan86 | I think they were plotted with an unregistered bot as well. | Aug 09 15:46 |
| techrights-news | #FOSSlife wants us to think every software project is owned and controlled by #microsoft https://www.fosslife.org/study-analyzes-race-bias-software-development #deletegithub ... it is RACIST by design and it's Microsoft's fault: http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Aug 09 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fosslife.org | Study Analyzes Race Bias in Software Development | Aug 09 15:47 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights | Aug 09 15:47 | |
| techrights-news | #SteamPlay tool #Luxtorpeda gets some needed upgrades and better KDE Plasma support • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154317 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 15:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Steam Play tool Luxtorpeda gets some needed upgrades and better KDE Plasma support | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:49 | |
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| techrights-news | Arch Linux, Clear Linux & Ubuntu Against #Vista10 / #Vapourware On Intel Rocket Lake • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154318 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 15:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arch Linux, Clear Linux & Ubuntu Against Windows 10/11 On Intel Rocket Lake | Tux Machines | Aug 09 15:51 | |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: I see... | Aug 09 15:52 |
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| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: anyway, see my meme, I ended up using /lusers | Aug 09 15:52 |
| schestowitz-TR | of the 9500 remaining users 2 are mine | Aug 09 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | and they are NOT registered | Aug 09 15:53 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ye should have at least one registered one, as ye are a chanop there. | Aug 09 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | 27 users online in FN #techrights ATM | Aug 09 15:53 |
| schestowitz-TR | some of them are the same people as people here | Aug 09 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | XRevan86: if it comes down to it, I might | Aug 09 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | right now all the activity there is 'imported' | Aug 09 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | so moderation is not needed | Aug 09 15:54 |
| schestowitz-TR | the channels are regisered by me | Aug 09 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Also ye can configure NickServ to allow multiple connections from your nick both in here and on fleenode. | Aug 09 15:55 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless they intend to wipe off ALL users again... except those who signed up in irc.com | Aug 09 15:55 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: "the channels are regisered by me" – well, yea, ye have registration. Ye can use it. | Aug 09 15:55 |
| *XRevan86 can't help but share solutions, even for pointless problems. | Aug 09 15:56 | |
| XRevan86 | * can't help myself but | Aug 09 15:56 |
| schestowitz-TR | a channel with zero activity has a value of nezo | Aug 09 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | zero | Aug 09 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | even if it has a million users | Aug 09 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | zero times million is still zero | Aug 09 15:57 |
| schestowitz-TR | a million people writing and reading nothing at all means nothing comes in, nothing comes out. zilch in, zilch out. | Aug 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | and this seems to be what freenode become in a matter of 2-3 months | Aug 09 15:58 |
| schestowitz-TR | *has become | Aug 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | it is amusing they report 22 servers on freenode | Aug 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | that's like 500 users per server | Aug 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | over-provisioned | Aug 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | unless it's some very small VM for each | Aug 09 15:59 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe alex has lots of unused servers | Aug 09 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | shells.com expected more demand | Aug 09 16:00 |
| schestowitz-TR | and all the paid-for 'articles' and sponsored 'vloggers' or youtube 'influencers' don't 'deliver' | Aug 09 16:00 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: I assume they don't have donated servers anymore. | Aug 09 16:01 |
| schestowitz-TR | Empire that never was, in decline... | Aug 09 16:01 |
| techrights-news | "Have you completed #UnderMine h Might be time to jump back into this dungeon crawling action adventure as the 1.2 update is out now to celebrate a year since release." https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/dungeon-crawling-action-adventure-undermine-gets-a-big-update-for-the-end-game | Aug 09 16:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dungeon crawling action adventure UnderMine gets a big update for the end-game | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 16:01 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Is it still above 9000? | Aug 09 16:02 |
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| techrights-news | #DebDroidng needs to #deletegithub https://bkhome.org/news/202108/debdroid-ng-works-great.html #DebDroid ought not help #microsoft promote #racism http://techrights.org/2021/07/29/github-is-racism/ | Aug 09 16:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bkhome.org | DebDroid-ng works great | Aug 09 16:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHub is Racism | Techrights | Aug 09 16:03 | |
| XRevan86 | https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 – access denied. | Aug 09 16:03 |
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| schestowitz | * Current global users: 9490 Max: 22832 | Aug 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | 5 hours ago: | Aug 09 16:04 |
| schestowitz | * Current global users: 9561 Max: 22832 | Aug 09 16:05 |
| schestowitz | 71 users fewer | Aug 09 16:05 |
| XRevan86 | So about 300 users a day. | Aug 09 16:05 |
| schestowitz | in % terms that would like like 710 fewer than 95,000 | Aug 09 16:05 |
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| schestowitz | number of servers: 27 | Aug 09 16:06 |
| schestowitz | so make that like 400:1 users:servers ratio | Aug 09 16:06 |
| schestowitz | 9 operators | Aug 09 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Should reach DALnet by the end of the week. | Aug 09 16:06 |
| schestowitz | * There are 1097 users and 8393 invisible on 27 servers | Aug 09 16:06 |
| schestowitz | might that mean 1100 unregistered? | Aug 09 16:07 |
| schestowitz | [16:03] <XRevan86> https://tinyurl.com/ey43u3h8 – access denied. | Aug 09 16:07 |
| schestowitz | wow, did they configure aws to block russia? | Aug 09 16:07 |
| schestowitz | because... that would be kind of racist, methinks | Aug 09 16:08 |
| schestowitz | esp. for a government agency | Aug 09 16:08 |
| schestowitz | we have a PM called Borus with Estonia roots | Aug 09 16:08 |
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| XRevan86 | schestowitz: TechrightsBot-tr also showed 403. Unless it's in Russia :). The link probably expired. | Aug 09 16:11 |
| techrights-news | #Planner: A Beautiful #FreeSW Task Management App • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154319 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 16:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Planner: A Beautiful Open-Source Task Management App | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:12 | |
| XRevan86 | Although, TechrightsBot-tr showed 403 hours ago too, hm. | Aug 09 16:12 |
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| schestowitz-TR | does it work from the landing page/ | Aug 09 16:13 |
| schestowitz-TR | maybe you need to enter the page for a cookie firsta | Aug 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | and then aws uses a session id | Aug 09 16:14 |
| schestowitz-TR | https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/11080278/filing-history | Aug 09 16:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk | FREEDOMTECH SOLUTIONS LIMITED - Filing history (free information from Companies House) | Aug 09 16:14 | |
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| schestowitz-TR | follow links from there | Aug 09 16:14 |
| techrights-news | #WordPress 5.8 and #DigitalOcean Droplets • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154320 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 16:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | WordPress 5.8 and DigitalOcean Droplets | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:15 | |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Which one? | Aug 09 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | And yea, those are definitely temporary links. | Aug 09 16:16 |
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| techrights-news | #BittersweetBirthday brings a mix of a boss-rush adventure with exploration | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/bittersweet-birthday-brings-a-mix-of-a-boss-rush-adventure-with-exploration ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games | Aug 09 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bittersweet Birthday brings a mix of a boss-rush adventure with exploration | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 16:19 | |
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| techrights-news | Historical Strategy Game #0AD Alpha 25 Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154283#comment-30496 | Aug 09 16:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: GNU/Linux Gaming Predictions, Valve Steam Deck,and 0 A.D. | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:21 | |
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| techrights-news | #HPC Efficiency Gurus Grapple with AMD’s RAPL ⚓ https://www.nextplatform.com/2021/08/09/hpc-efficiency-gurus-grapple-with-amds-rapl/ ䷉ #nextplatform | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/08/09/#latest | Aug 09 16:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nextplatform.com | HPC Efficiency Gurus Grapple with AMD’s RAPL | Aug 09 16:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Aug 09 16:23 | |
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| techrights-news | #google gives some money to #gnome and the work goes to racist #microsoft #github https://dnuka.github.io/gsoc21-internship-update.html #deletegithub | Aug 09 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dnuka.github.io | GSoC 21: GNOME/libsecret project update | Aug 09 16:25 | |
| techrights-news | Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154321 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 16:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:25 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat #OpenShift helps customers meet demands faster ⚓ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-openshift-helps-customers-meet-demands-faster ䷉ #RedHat #IBM #GNU #Linux | Aug 09 16:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | Red Hat OpenShift helps customers meet demands faster | Aug 09 16:26 | |
| techrights-news | This only ever works on a small set of people http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2021/08/guest-post-chinas-path-to-regulating.html | Aug 09 16:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | [Guest post] China’s path to regulating facial recognition technology - The IPKat | Aug 09 16:27 | |
| techrights-news | #Litigation firm #UDL pushing illegal #softwarepatents ; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the #EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up Litigation firm UDL pushing illegal software patents; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up #swpats | Aug 09 16:29 |
| techrights-news | #Litigation firm #UDL pushing illegal #softwarepatents ; but it is supported by the bunch of gangsters that runs the #EPO and threatens/besieged judges when the question comes up https://www.udl.co.uk/insights/how-to-patent-autonomous-vehicle-simulations #swpats | Aug 09 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.udl.co.uk | How to patent autonomous vehicle simulations | Aug 09 16:30 | |
| techrights-news | #Diamyd fails to take into account the fact that today's #EPO grants lots of #fakepatents that don't have even the slimmest chance of withstanding challenge in court (enforcement), they're just some piece of paper https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/diamyd-medical-secures-precision-medicine-patent-for-prevention-and-treatment-of-autoimmune-diabetes-301350897.html see http://techrights.org/2021/03/25/epo-potential-improvements/ | Aug 09 16:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prnewswire.com | Diamyd Medical secures precision medicine patent for prevention and treatment of autoimmune diabetes | Aug 09 16:33 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO Staff Representation Again Warns About Collapse in Patent Quality (Due to Bad Management), Suggests Potential Improvements | Techrights | Aug 09 16:33 | |
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| techrights-news | #Splitgate continues expanding server capacity and smashing records | GamingOnLinux ⚓ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2021/08/splitgate-continues-expanding-server-capacity-and-smashing-records ䷉ #GamingOnLinux #GNU #Linux #Games 🐧 | Aug 09 16:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Splitgate continues expanding server capacity and smashing records | GamingOnLinux | Aug 09 16:37 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21070153 | Aug 09 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5637489) | Aug 09 16:38 | |
| techrights-news | Best #Games for #GNU #Linux That Work Natively - Linux Stans ⚓ https://linuxstans.com/best-games-for-linux/ ䷉ #linuxstans | Aug 09 16:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxstans.com | Best Games for Linux That Work Natively - Linux Stans | Aug 09 16:38 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: but can Tom sink the largest IRC network in 2 months? | Aug 09 16:39 |
| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 09 16:40 |
| techrights-news | “Sometimes, it falls upon a generation to be great. You can be that great generation. Let your greatness blossom.” Late former president Nelson Mandela. https://www.iol.co.za/news/nkalakatha-of-the-week-south-africans-showing-ubuntu-95dfd794-356e-4e0c-a8f2-40487b5036eb | Aug 09 16:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iol.co.za | Nkalakatha of the week: South Africans showing Ubuntu | Aug 09 16:41 | |
| techrights-news | #OpenHardware and Devices With GNU/Linux • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154322 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 16:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Open Hardware and Devices With GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:42 | |
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| techrights-news | #SitePoint is now spamming racist #ProprietarySoftware of #Microsoft ... I've long seen that site shilling Microsoft, but encouraging #GPLViolations is a new low. | Aug 09 16:45 |
| techrights-news | Wait, what? #facebook does even WORSE things https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/apple-iphone-photo-scanning-messages-whatsapp-privacy-b1899360.html e.g. https://techcrunch.com/2020/04/03/before-suing-nso-group-facebook-allegedly-sought-their-software-to-better-spy-on-users/ | Aug 09 16:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | WhatsApp and privacy experts sound alarm about privacy implications of new Apple photo scanning feature | The Independent | Aug 09 16:46 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Before suing NSO Group, Facebook allegedly sought their software to better spy on users – TechCrunch | Aug 09 16:47 | |
| techrights-news | By "HEY HI" they just mean "computer programs" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-tech-prison/us-prisons-mull-ai-to-analyze-inmate-phone-calls-idUSKBN2FA0OO | Aug 09 16:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-U.S. prisons mull AI to analyze inmate phone calls | Reuters | Aug 09 16:48 | |
| techrights-news | PDF is bad for #accessibility so if you value people with disability you will use a different format altogether https://www.valdostadailytimes.com/news/business/the-pdf-ua-foundation-launches-new-pdf-accessibility-checker-pac-2021/article_62f8ffc9-0c46-531e-aa0a-44a5db52e9d0.html | Aug 09 16:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The PDF/UA Foundation Launches New PDF Accessibility Checker – PAC 2021 | Business | valdostadailytimes.com | Aug 09 16:49 | |
| techrights-news | "Today's Internet is dominated by Javascript, WebRTC, and many other frameworks that make sites too heavy to use on old hardware." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006990.html | Aug 09 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 | Aug 09 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | "Just to say, that the expectations inherent within a fully functioning government and its range* of monopolies/monosopolies COULD permit government services to be exclusively provided by Gemini." https://lists.orbitalfox.eu/archives/gemini/2021/006991.html | Aug 09 16:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.orbitalfox.eu | Gemini Digest, Vol 25, Issue 5 | Aug 09 16:50 | |
| techrights-news | #Games: UnderMine, Bittersweet Birthday, Splitgate, and More • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154323 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 16:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: UnderMine, Bittersweet Birthday, Splitgate, and More | Tux Machines | Aug 09 16:51 | |
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| techrights-news | #ddos attack on #techrights and I can only guess what triggers that | Aug 09 16:58 |
| techrights-news | #watchtroll death cult again attacking #covid19 #patent waivers. They want MILLIONS of people to needlessly die for corporate #monopolies and predation. A site for greedy sociopaths http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Watchtroll | Aug 09 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Watchtroll - Techrights | Aug 09 17:00 | |
| techrights-news | #Security Leftovers (and Abandoning Old Hardware in Linux) • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154324 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 17:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers (and Abandoning Old Hardware in Linux) | Tux Machines | Aug 09 17:00 | |
| techrights-news | #uspto knows that #patent quality has done far too low https://www.iam-media.com/patents/uspto-eligibility-study-possible-prelude-legislation see http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/USPTO | Aug 09 17:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.iam-media.com | USPTO patent eligibility study looks like groundwork for legislation | IAM | Aug 09 17:03 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | USPTO - Techrights | Aug 09 17:03 | |
| techrights-news | "They want people to quit. Cheaper than layoffs. It's those companies looking to reduce headcount that are mandating the vaccine. For those who refuse vaccination, company can pick and choose who to let go for not following policy." #ibm https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cecaatd#replies | Aug 09 17:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Red Hat issues vaccine mandate for employees - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:05 | |
| techrights-news | "Yes, at some point, #IBM will probably insist that we employees start working." IBM is a dying firm. It engages in financial manipulation now. https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c8mhQCW#replies | Aug 09 17:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Return to work - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:06 | |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▁▆▅▁▁▄▃▅▅▇▅▅▇▃▃▄▅▂▅▄▁▂▅▂▂▄▃▄▅▄▁ avg(k/sec) 19.28 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▄▇███▁▂▂▃▂▃▂▂▂▄▅▁▂▁▃▃▁▂▂██▁▁▂▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 71.01▕ swarm size (avg): 276.57 ⟲ | Aug 09 17:07 |
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| techrights-news | Today’s 🅣🅤🅧 🅜🅐🅒🅗🅘🅝🅔🅢 Leftovers • 𝗧𝘂𝘅 𝗠𝗮𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗲𝘀 ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/154325 #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Aug 09 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux Machines | Aug 09 17:19 | |
| techrights-news | Links 9/8/2021: Rav1e 0.5 Beta and a Look at Widgets in WordPress 5.8 • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2021/08/09/rav1e-0-5-beta/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/08/09/rav1e-0-5-beta/ | Aug 09 17:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 9/8/2021: Rav1e 0.5 Beta and a Look at Widgets in WordPress 5.8 | Techrights | Aug 09 17:22 | |
| techrights-news | "There is no mandatory RTO policy. It's volunteer and you have to sign up/reserve a seat somewhere on each day you would like to go in. You also have to wear a mask 100% of the time. It's not possible to make everybody go in due to lack of space." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cadsUqC#replies | Aug 09 17:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | IBM RTO Master Thread - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:24 | |
| techrights-news | "Who's signing up to share a toilet with your nasty coworkers? Good grief there are some freak shows out there." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cadsUqC#replies | Aug 09 17:24 |
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| techrights-news | " #IBM will set the requirement... your choice will be, meet the requirement or leave." https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1c8mhQCW#replies | Aug 09 17:25 |
| techrights-news | "Unfortunately... our economic system is designed for something quite the opposite... to extract value from the worker bees for as long as possible, as cheaply as possible." #ibm #layoffs https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ccNnWuS#replies | Aug 09 17:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | Measuring success - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:26 | |
| techrights-news | "Can confirm. #Kyndryl is being "over stuffed" #IBM will still have mass layoff after split. #Marketing hits heavy with reorg" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1bNN1GXW#replies | Aug 09 17:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | RA Projections - IBM vs. Kyndryl? - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:27 | |
| techrights-news | "The other qualifying event is “does #IBM consider you strategic”? If they don’t consider your product strategic, your performance doesn’t matter to them and you will be shown the door no matter how large your current attainment" https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1cb04k5G#replies | Aug 09 17:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thelayoff.com | It's purely a financial decision - post regarding IBM layoffs | Aug 09 17:28 | |
| techrights-news | Red Hat/IBM Got ’Tired’ of RMS. Is It Getting 'Tired’ of GPL/Copyleft Too? • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/06/04/tired-of-rms-winning/ ䷉ #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Aug 09 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Red Hat/IBM Got ‘Tired’ of RMS. Is It Getting ‘Tired’ of GPL/Copyleft Too? | Techrights | Aug 09 17:29 | |
| DaemonFC | Major storms today and it'll be over 100 again tomorrow. | Aug 09 17:29 |
| DaemonFC | I try to keep it at 72 in here during the day and 66 at night. I have a lot of sleep problems already and feeling like I'm suffocating because of the temperature doesn't help. | Aug 09 17:30 |
| schestowitz | #IBM and the Bomb - Part VI: Diplomacy Replaced With ’Trade’ (Money Over Politics), or How Watson Jr. Was Sold to the Public, in the Same Way His Father (IBM Co-founder) Sold His Business Relationship With Dictators Like Hitler • 𝑻𝒆𝒄𝒉𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕𝒔 ⚓ http://techrights.org/2020/08/02/ibm-and-the-bomb-part-6-final/ | Aug 09 17:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM and the Bomb – Part VI: Diplomacy Replaced With ‘Trade’ (Money Over Politics), or How Watson Jr. Was Sold to the Public, in the Same Way His Father (IBM Co-founder) Sold His Business Relationship With Dictators Like Hitler | Techrights | Aug 09 17:30 | |
| DaemonFC | So I'm actually glad that electric prices have been politicized. | Aug 09 17:30 |
| DaemonFC | Otherwise those might have gone up 20% like meat or something. | Aug 09 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | If they enact this vehicle miles tax, then we're going to go down to Springfield and skin these people alive. | Aug 09 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | They won't need to worry about an election next year. | Aug 09 17:31 |
| DaemonFC | They already doubled the per-gallon tax. If they do VMT on gasoline vehicles too, then fuck them to death! | Aug 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | That's my opinion on VMT. They should do VMT or a very expensive electric vehicle plate tax, on EVs only. | Aug 09 17:32 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 09 17:32 |
| DaemonFC | They aren't trying to spin this as a CARBON BAD!!! CARBON BAAAAD! tax. | Aug 09 17:33 |
| DaemonFC | They say more efficient vehicles, which they mandated, are tearing up the roads and freeloading. | Aug 09 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | So the best way to handle that would be to charge a tax on registration that is based on how many mpg equivalent your car gets per the EPA, which posts this. | Aug 09 17:34 |
| DaemonFC | For example, on a 2003 Impala, I should pay 2/3rds of the tax that a 2018 Kia Soul+ should pay, and about half of what a Tesla owner does. | Aug 09 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Since I already have insurance tracking my miles to bill me for what I use, I finally decided to plot the most efficient course to take Mandy to work. | Aug 09 17:35 |
| DaemonFC | I managed to reduce the mileage by 12.4% by asking Waze for all of the options available on how to get there. | Aug 09 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then I pulled up a calculator. Turns out that I only save $20 on insurance over the year by doing this, but I save $115 on gasoline. | Aug 09 17:36 |
| MinceR | i wonder when will politicians realize that even BEVs cause emissions | Aug 09 17:36 |
| DaemonFC | At least in theory. So I took each route and times average speed and number of stop lights. | Aug 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | They're pretty similar, so the lower mileage route would seem to be more fuel efficient. | Aug 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | I'll track how much gas I put in my car the next few weeks. | Aug 09 17:37 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, That engine was extremely out of tune when I got it. | Aug 09 17:40 |
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| DaemonFC | I fixed all of the cheap and stupid reasons why it was getting poorer fuel economy than it was able to. | Aug 09 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | It went from about 11-12 mpg to about 17-18 in the city. | Aug 09 17:41 |
| DaemonFC | But I don't think it can do better than that. | Aug 09 17:41 |
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| DaemonFC | At this point, I just need to find the most efficient routes to get where I'm going. | Aug 09 17:42 |
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| DaemonFC | Plot errands that are along the same route. | Aug 09 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | Not drive like a maniac on the freeway. Things like that. | Aug 09 17:42 |
| DaemonFC | I noticed along the freeway you can get up to 34 miles per gallon at 55 miles per hour and as little as 25 miles per gallon at 85. | Aug 09 17:43 |
| DaemonFC | I've never had a car where the fuel mileage was this far apart between city and highway. | Aug 09 17:44 |
| DaemonFC | Every car does have its optimal fuel mileage. It seems that this car, on the highway, starts dropping at 62 miles per hour, and quite noticeably after 66 miles per hour. | Aug 09 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | After about 72 miles per hour, it starts dropping off steeply. | Aug 09 17:45 |
| DaemonFC | So I try not to exceed 70 unless I simply have to cover a lot of ground in a short time. | Aug 09 17:46 |
| DaemonFC | With this traffic court thing already pending, I may not want to exceed 60 even on the freeway. | Aug 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | All I need is a second strike on my license before I even clear this up. | Aug 09 17:47 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know how court works in other countries, but here, the prosecutor takes his turn and tries to throw all the shit he can at you in order to offer a very bad plea bargain. | Aug 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | If he can say "Oh, you got caught speeding and have court down in Cook County?", then what I'm already going in for is going to be so much worse. | Aug 09 17:48 |
| DaemonFC | It's more worth it for people to plead guilty and take supervision if they're already in danger of losing their license. I have less reason to do so because I still have the full three convictions in a year before they can take mine. | Aug 09 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | I can sink one as long as nothing else happens for a while. Therefore, I can go to court and take my chances. | Aug 09 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | So it functions as a reward for shitty drivers who are in court all the time. | Aug 09 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Or "justice" as I like to call it. :) | Aug 09 17:50 |
| DaemonFC | "You know the thing. Just pay us money and we won't sic the insurance people on you. Next!" | Aug 09 17:51 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Part of me wants to rip up the ticket and mail it back to the police department if I beat it. | Aug 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | But the other part says leave it alone. | Aug 09 17:54 |
| DaemonFC | Sure they're assholes, but if they remember you and that they don't like you, they'll make a point that bad things happen to you every time they see you. | Aug 09 17:55 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz, Cops used to be off limits to the gangs in Chicago. They knew that if you blew away a cop, you'd bring a can of whoopass down on the entire gang. | Aug 09 17:58 |
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| DaemonFC | Yesterday, they just murdered one and the other is in the hospital and it's 50/50 that they ever get out, and this happens more and more. | Aug 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | Thanks to Lightfoot, Foxx, and Pritzker, they know they can get away with anything now. | Aug 09 17:58 |
| DaemonFC | The Big Black Cauc(us) bills to repeal the justice system in Illinois that Jabba the Pritzker has been signing surely haven't helped, even though the worst of it has yet to take effect. | Aug 09 17:59 |
| DaemonFC | I actually agree with the proposal to make credit scoring illegal on car insurance. Not because it's "racist". People have bad credit because they didn't pay their bills. Because it has nothing to do with car insurance except that black people will respond to $350 a month PLPD by not having insurance at all and then the problem rebounds on everyone else. | Aug 09 18:00 |
| DaemonFC | As both higher premiums and having to buy uninsured motorist riders that cost more. | Aug 09 18:01 |
| DaemonFC | If you're already on the run from child support, landlords, payday loan companies, and some open warrants, what's car insurance at that point? | Aug 09 18:02 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe they'll repeal child support next. After all, it takes a village to raise an idiot. Why expect the dad to pay some of the bills? | Aug 09 18:03 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21071558 | Aug 09 18:05 |
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| DaemonFC | MinceR, On Facebook: "Apparently, the Lt. Governor of Massachusetts wasn't wearing his seatbelt and walked away from a 100+ mph car crash without any serious injuries. I think they need to check that guy to see if Skynet sent him back from the future, personally. | Aug 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | "Obviously something has changed. The likely explanation is that people were driving faster during & after the pandemic." | Aug 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | Well, thanks to Jabba the Pritzker repealing our criminal justice system, it's harder for the courts to enforce their rulings even if they want to. You can get traffic court fines now and never lose your license even if you don't pay. How do you like that? Of course, that would just be one guess." | Aug 09 18:06 |
| DaemonFC | I was responding to someone else who said the pandemic is why we've been seeing an uptick in traffic scofflaws. | Aug 09 18:07 |
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| schestowitz-TR | MinceR: what happened next? | Aug 09 18:16 |
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| MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 09 18:18 |
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| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: <Ariadne> atheme does not provide support for freenode, or networks operated by its associates. | Aug 09 18:28 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz-TR: just notifying you of the behavior of the garbage that you drag around with techrights | Aug 09 18:29 |
| CrystalMath | and that makes techrights stink so bad | Aug 09 18:29 |
| Ariadne | the four freedoms of freenode, and its associates are not impacted by our refusal to provide technical support | Aug 09 18:29 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: that changes nothing about what you are as a person | Aug 09 18:30 |
| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL9Y24ciNWs | Aug 09 18:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Freenode has collapsed. | Aug 09 18:30 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: somebody who does not provide support to freenode or its associates? | Aug 09 18:30 |
| DaemonFC | And this crap going on with PIA makes me seriously wonder if I want to continue with them as my VPN provider in November when my account is up for renewal. | Aug 09 18:30 |
| Ariadne | i'm sorry, i wasn't aware that you get to define what i spend my time on | Aug 09 18:30 |
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| DaemonFC | Freenode doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are so few users left there's little point in going on at this point. | Aug 09 18:31 |
| Ariadne | i believe schestowitz is quite aware of my views regarding using organized labor | Aug 09 18:31 |
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| DaemonFC | Unions can be good or bad. | Aug 09 18:31 |
| Ariadne | it's quite funny, because this is a tactic invented by RMS himself | Aug 09 18:31 |
| DaemonFC | Many of them negotiate harder for what's good for them than what's good for the employees they claim to represent. | Aug 09 18:32 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: oh i don't, but your extension to associates (and associates of associates) is what i'm pointing out | Aug 09 18:32 |
| DaemonFC | Walmart is non-union and the employee compensation is better than jewel-osco, which has a union and a contract, and dues coming out of your check every week. | Aug 09 18:32 |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21063049 | Aug 09 18:33 |
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| DaemonFC | The unions haven't managed to bargain for better working conditions at jewel. In fact, a higher percentage of jewel employees are part time, which makes it even harder to use the job to pay for your life expenses. | Aug 09 18:33 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: i mean, i don't think it is surprising that the IRC equivalent to the FSF refuses to provide support to a person who took over 700+ channels and shut them down | Aug 09 18:33 |
| DaemonFC | Frito-Lay isn't budging on their contract offer. | Aug 09 18:34 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: lol "IRC equivalent to the FSF" | Aug 09 18:34 |
| Ariadne | i also do not think it is surprising that others who have a nexus with that person would fall into the embargo too. | Aug 09 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | Increasingly, the unions just take your money and make endless concessions. | Aug 09 18:34 |
| CrystalMath | yeah the FSF is known for embargoes, is it? | Aug 09 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | At that point, you're getting whatever the employer feels like giving you anyway, so why have the union? | Aug 09 18:34 |
| MinceR | the FSF is known for bending over for its enemies lately | Aug 09 18:34 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: they have embargoed features in GNU software before until such time that GNU/Linux had feature parity. | Aug 09 18:34 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: honestly that's better than the complete opposite, but also not ideal | Aug 09 18:34 |
| DaemonFC | What we need, are laws. | Aug 09 18:35 |
| MinceR | whatever | Aug 09 18:35 |
| MinceR | just don't expect them to do anything worthwhile | Aug 09 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | Those unions for grocery store workers "bargained" for how many years in Illinois, without raising the wage to $15? | Aug 09 18:35 |
| DaemonFC | One law and now they have to pay at least $15. | Aug 09 18:35 |
| CrystalMath | also the IRC equivalent of the FSF doesn't understand free software, and even outright opposes it by attacking RMS | Aug 09 18:35 |
| Ariadne | atheme has never commented on RMS | Aug 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | I refuse to shop at Kroger or Jewel/Albertsons. | Aug 09 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | its members attack RMS on twitter | Aug 09 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | this is the IRC equivalent of the SFC, really | Aug 09 18:36 |
| Ariadne | its members have freedom of speech, and are allowed to say what they wish | Aug 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | They were both gloating about raising prices on groceries WAAAAAY higher than inflation required them to. | Aug 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | To get "better margins". They know people will get pissed and blame the entire thing on Biden. | Aug 09 18:36 |
| CrystalMath | and the SFC is full of horrible garbage people that should never be listened to | Aug 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | So if they only need to raise prices 4%, they raise them 8%. | Aug 09 18:36 |
| DaemonFC | Then brag at investor meetings. | Aug 09 18:37 |
| Ariadne | you're just mad that freenode staff have to make decisions about whether to stay affiliated with freenode | Aug 09 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | It fucking pisses me off, honestly, that we're out here busting our humps just trying to make ends meet and those fucking grocery store CEOs are gloating about this. | Aug 09 18:37 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: the people you were talking to aren't so strongly affiliated anymore | Aug 09 18:37 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, it's kinda hard to be | Aug 09 18:37 |
| DaemonFC | Gratuitous and unnecessary price hikes. | Aug 09 18:38 |
| Ariadne | the person i was talking about, Foxy, is still known to be a staffer and thus remains on the embargo list. | Aug 09 18:38 |
| CrystalMath | if freenode did do what Andrew Lee said, been an IRC network for free speech and right-wing free software development, i would have loved it | Aug 09 18:38 |
| CrystalMath | i would have done everything for it | Aug 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | I've noticed that Aldi and Walmart still seem to be at least _trying_ to not make this inflation worse than it has to be. | Aug 09 18:38 |
| CrystalMath | sadly these latest moves are terrible and go against this goal | Aug 09 18:38 |
| Ariadne | too bad he's just another grifter, huh | Aug 09 18:38 |
| MinceR | making lists of people, so hot right now | Aug 09 18:38 |
| DaemonFC | And I respect them for that. They aren't pissing on us and telling us it's raining. | Aug 09 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | So I'll shop there. | Aug 09 18:39 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: i guess there's still IRCNow | Aug 09 18:39 |
| Ariadne | MinceR: i mean, i don't have a list per se of people, i just check freenode.net/staff or whatever it is | Aug 09 18:39 |
| MinceR | i don't know ircnow | Aug 09 18:39 |
| Ariadne | foxy screwed up by reminding us that she was affiliated with both networks | Aug 09 18:39 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I picked up a receipt from Walmart in the parking lot yesterday. Often, there's iBotta rebates on them and someone didn't claim them. | Aug 09 18:39 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: both? | Aug 09 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | So I pick it up and it's all steak, lobster, snow crab. | Aug 09 18:40 |
| MinceR | i hate this effort to bring two-party politics into what used to be free software development | Aug 09 18:40 |
| Ariadne | freenode, and evilnet | Aug 09 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | I get to the bottom and it's food stamps. | Aug 09 18:40 |
| DaemonFC | Because of course it is. | Aug 09 18:40 |
| MinceR | but Lee didn't fire the first shot in that, afaict | Aug 09 18:40 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well you can check freenode.net/people | Aug 09 18:40 |
| CrystalMath | the list has in fact gotten shorter than you think | Aug 09 18:40 |
| MinceR | Ariadne: what's up with evilnet? | Aug 09 18:40 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: evilnet is the one Ariadne won't help | Aug 09 18:41 |
| Ariadne | i mean, i would check if foxy is still a staff with /whois, but it seems i need to make an irc.com account to even connect | Aug 09 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ronald Reagan put this in a speech in the 1980s where he said you work hard and are in there trying to buy hamburgers and here's this strapping young buck using food stamps to buy steak. | Aug 09 18:41 |
| CrystalMath | although this is good for evilnet as i'm trying to convince them not to use the garbage that is atheme | Aug 09 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Not much has changed, I guess. | Aug 09 18:41 |
| MinceR | :> | Aug 09 18:41 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: it does seem relevant to convince them to not use software where there is no technical support available | Aug 09 18:41 |
| DaemonFC | Reagan had perhaps the most compelling presidential victories of all time. | Aug 09 18:41 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: regardless of technical support, atheme is just bad | Aug 09 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, I think 1984 he only lost Minnesota and DC. | Aug 09 18:42 |
| CrystalMath | if atheme was good i could do tech support for it | Aug 09 18:42 |
| CrystalMath | but i don't want to read that crap | Aug 09 18:42 |
| Ariadne | ah, the phanes talking point | Aug 09 18:42 |
| DaemonFC | I don't think anyone has ever won all electoral votes. I think that's the closest it's been. | Aug 09 18:42 |
| Ariadne | all this is telling me is that the action we agreed to collectively is having the desired effect | Aug 09 18:42 |
| Ariadne | so, thanks for letting me know | Aug 09 18:43 |
| Ariadne | :) | Aug 09 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | We've gone back to being too evenly divided to even guess at what will happen until the fat lady sings. | Aug 09 18:43 |
| DaemonFC | Maybe even days after the election. | Aug 09 18:43 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well if the desired effect is to get people away from atheme, then yes | Aug 09 18:44 |
| CrystalMath | however i also want schestowitz to know this | Aug 09 18:44 |
| Ariadne | okay | Aug 09 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Eh, Washington, but I don't think he really counts. The prevailing attitude was to make him a King. | Aug 09 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | De facto if nothing else. | Aug 09 18:44 |
| DaemonFC | Usually power goes to the people who want it, and that's why they shouldn't have it. | Aug 09 18:45 |
| MinceR | ronnie raygun only wished they could make him a king, eh? | Aug 09 18:45 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: bluntly, free software does not include technical support | Aug 09 18:45 |
| CrystalMath | i know, but if it was anope that did this (which is possible) it would be worth it to provide 3rd party community support for it | Aug 09 18:45 |
| CrystalMath | atheme sadly reeks of the garbage that the people who work on it are | Aug 09 18:46 |
| Ariadne | haha | Aug 09 18:46 |
| MinceR | 🍿 | Aug 09 18:46 |
| DaemonFC | What these Senate negotiations are telling me is that about half the Republican Party has already cast Trump aside and want to move on and do big things now that he's out of the picture. | Aug 09 18:47 |
| Ariadne | i mean, if schestowitz wishes to move techrights off my servers because *checks notes* a group of people collectively organized to not provide technical support to freenode and its staffers in any context, then that's his right to do. | Aug 09 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | They won't say it, but they've calculated that he won't be back. | Aug 09 18:47 |
| DaemonFC | No matter what he threatens them with, they don't care. | Aug 09 18:47 |
| Ariadne | however, i do not see how that action is against the spirit of free software | Aug 09 18:48 |
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| MinceR | recently i saw an article claiming that the head of the RNC claimed goldenDawnald is still in charge of the GOP | Aug 09 18:48 |
| Ariadne | if you would like to explain it, i would be glad to hear | Aug 09 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, Yeah, 19 Senate Republicans wouldn't give Trump an infrastructure bill. | Aug 09 18:48 |
| Ariadne | but, the GPL has an entire paragraph on software being provided "AS IS" and "WITH NO WARRANTY" | Aug 09 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | But they're happy to give one to Biden and ignore "Leadership" to get it to him. | Aug 09 18:48 |
| DaemonFC | In fact, Mitch McConnell has even been strongarmed into coming onboard at this point because he doesn't want to look like he's lost control of his caucus. | Aug 09 18:49 |
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| CrystalMath | Ariadne: the problem is how you extend this to associates and associates of associates (recursively) | Aug 09 18:53 |
| CrystalMath | the problem isn't evilnet which should not be using atheme anyway | Aug 09 18:53 |
| Ariadne | how is that a problem? an embargo needs to have teeth to be effective | Aug 09 18:53 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: the fact that you call it an embargo is another thing that schestowitz should be aware of | Aug 09 18:54 |
| Ariadne | (hint: the goal of the embargo is to leave freenode with zero staffers) | Aug 09 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | freenode isn't going to have 0 staffers but it will have 5-ish | Aug 09 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | until it closes down | Aug 09 18:54 |
| CrystalMath | i mean how much staff will freenode really need? with only registered users that will be such a small amount :( | Aug 09 18:55 |
| Ariadne | yes, schestowitz, CrystalMath is telling the truth, i am using labor organizing to influence what staff andrew lee can retain | Aug 09 18:55 |
| CrystalMath | it's pointless to discuss freenode, sadly there is currently no free speech free software development IRC | Aug 09 18:55 |
| Ariadne | so, is foxy a freenode staff or not | Aug 09 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: but you're kinda beating a dead horse, if that's the point | Aug 09 18:56 |
| Ariadne | it's not a dead horse until it's zero | Aug 09 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | well, technically still an ircop | Aug 09 18:56 |
| Ariadne | and, it's not my personal decision | Aug 09 18:56 |
| Ariadne | we collectively made that decision | Aug 09 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | i know, yes, now you told me what that's about, but freenode doesn't have a chance | Aug 09 18:57 |
| Ariadne | i'm sorry that this is where the picket line is, but that's where the picket line is | Aug 09 18:57 |
| CrystalMath | and yet the need for a right-wing-allowing free software IRC network is still there and unquenched | Aug 09 18:57 |
| Ariadne | our refusal to provide support to freenode and its associates is also speech, by the way | Aug 09 18:57 |
| Ariadne | and atheme has no issue with a right-wing free software IRC network | Aug 09 18:57 |
| MinceR | what does atheme have issue with? | Aug 09 18:58 |
| Ariadne | we have issue with an IRC network run by somebody who takes over 700+ channels and steals them from their rightful owners | Aug 09 18:58 |
| MinceR | do they have a statement? | Aug 09 18:58 |
| Ariadne | yes, i believe we do | Aug 09 18:58 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath removed that part | Aug 09 18:58 |
| MinceR | well, the takeover part is fair | Aug 09 18:58 |
| Ariadne | although it is hosted at github, https://atheme.github.io/atheme-open-letter/ | Aug 09 18:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-atheme.github.io | An open letter from Atheme’s developers and community | atheme-open-letter | Aug 09 18:58 | |
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| MinceR | though i believe freenode suffered the consequences of that already :> | Aug 09 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | personally i don't really think there's anything wrong with taking over spam channels | Aug 09 18:59 |
| Ariadne | it's the non-spam channels that we had an issue with | Aug 09 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | and making sure people are allowed to talk | Aug 09 18:59 |
| MinceR | there was nothing "spam" about #bedrock | Aug 09 19:00 |
| Ariadne | for example, #atheme was closed, even though it only mentioned libera as an alternative | Aug 09 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | honestly, if i start an IRC network, no channel mode will be allowed to prevent the majority from speaking | Aug 09 19:00 |
| MinceR | they didn't even decide on whether to move | Aug 09 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | although this choice may be dangerous :P | Aug 09 19:00 |
| MinceR | but the heavy-handed idiot made that decision for them | Aug 09 19:00 |
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| CrystalMath | 5 people on a channel, troll joins with 10 accounts, no mode can stop the troll now :P | Aug 09 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | i don't really know how to solve it | Aug 09 19:01 |
| MinceR | i'd rather make a decentralized namespace for channels | Aug 09 19:01 |
| CrystalMath | but people should *NOT* be allowed to force people to move to a new network | Aug 09 19:01 |
| MinceR | so it doesn't matter if someone squats a channel | Aug 09 19:01 |
| MinceR | but gtg | Aug 09 19:01 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: by the way, i have it on great authority that anope will not help entities known to be affiliated with freenode either | Aug 09 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: okay, but i'll provide 3rd party support for anope then | Aug 09 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | anope needs to be forked honestly, if it truly supports cancel culture this way | Aug 09 19:02 |
| Ariadne | > cancel culture | Aug 09 19:03 |
| Ariadne | we "cancelled" (god i hate that word) a group of people whose leader decided to harm the autonomy of thousands of communities | Aug 09 19:03 |
| Ariadne | they can quit! | Aug 09 19:03 |
| Ariadne | nobody is holding a gun to their head and saying "be a freenode oper!" | Aug 09 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | that shouldn't matter | Aug 09 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | but i mean, anope's developers shouldn't matter, either, this is free software | Aug 09 19:04 |
| Ariadne | the four freedoms are retained | Aug 09 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 09 19:05 |
| Ariadne | i'm not required to help Foxy figure out how to run atheme | Aug 09 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | she doesn't want to run atheme! | Aug 09 19:05 |
| Ariadne | great | Aug 09 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | it's her friend who's adamant on using that crap | Aug 09 19:05 |
| Ariadne | i'm not required to help a network that shares staff with freenode run atheme | Aug 09 19:06 |
| Ariadne | they are able to study the source themselves | Aug 09 19:06 |
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| CrystalMath | hmm, i wonder, does the fact that i won't study the source and help them myself mean i'm cancelling atheme? | Aug 09 19:07 |
| Ariadne | it's funny that it's always men who get angry about being told "no" | Aug 09 19:07 |
| Ariadne | guess so | Aug 09 19:07 |
| Ariadne | what a silly word | Aug 09 19:07 |
| Ariadne | in fact, i told somebody *else* no, and you're mad about *that* | Aug 09 19:08 |
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| CrystalMath | me? no i'm not mad, i'm just leaking your behavior to schestowitz | Aug 09 19:08 |
| CrystalMath | i thought you were referring to Gedreel, who, probably isn't mad either but idk really, i don't have direct information | Aug 09 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | and i'm leaking your behavior to schestowitz only because he insists that you run his infrastructure | Aug 09 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | which i believe is ultimately hurting techrights | Aug 09 19:10 |
| Ariadne | perhaps he insists that because he knows i will be equally stubborn with people who attack him/techrights | Aug 09 19:10 |
| Ariadne | you should learn to look at the big picture | Aug 09 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | i guess i do get mad every time i see cancel culture | Aug 09 19:11 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: CrystalMath is a lot more reasonable when he doesn't look at the big picture. | Aug 09 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | or any embargo | Aug 09 19:11 |
| Ariadne | this isn't even "cancel" culture | Aug 09 19:11 |
| Ariadne | this is "i'm not going to spend my personal time providing tech support to networks which have something in common with freenode" | Aug 09 19:12 |
| Ariadne | what myself and others choose to collectively set as boundaries is our choice, and our speech | Aug 09 19:12 |
| Ariadne | you talk about "free speech" but then choose to punish others for expressing their own speech | Aug 09 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | yeah it's not illegal or anything, it just makes you a bad person for discriminating | Aug 09 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | and i don't want to change atheme's decision | Aug 09 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | i want to change schestowitz's decision | Aug 09 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: freenode discriminated them, so they're soft-discriminating freenode, so ye're discriminating them | Aug 09 19:13 |
| XRevan86 | and in all of this it's Ariadne that is the "cancelling" one? | Aug 09 19:13 |
| gustaf | in lieue of popcorn I have Pringles | Aug 09 19:14 |
| gustaf | but this is good entertainment | Aug 09 19:14 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Say it as it is: ye want to cancel Ariadne for her choices. | Aug 09 19:14 |
| Ariadne | XRevan86: its because scope of the embargo includes networks run or opered by people who have a nexus with freenode | Aug 09 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: only from techrights because i believe t would save techrights | Aug 09 19:14 |
| Ariadne | and that embargo is not just atheme at this point, | Aug 09 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: and yes if it was just freenode i would have nothing to say to schestowitz, since this was obvious | Aug 09 19:14 |
| Ariadne | but anope, inspircd, even unrealircd | Aug 09 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Try the word "boycott" instead of "embargo" | Aug 09 19:15 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: i'm sorry that the irc development community has decided there has to be even the smallest amount of inconvenience as a result of providing labor to andrew lee | Aug 09 19:15 |
| XRevan86 | I think it would have a better ring in #boycottnovell, if ye know what I mean ;) | Aug 09 19:15 |
| Ariadne | techrights, too, advocates for this strategy | Aug 09 19:16 |
| Ariadne | with the EPO | Aug 09 19:16 |
| Ariadne | with Novell historically | Aug 09 19:16 |
| Ariadne | so, yes, the fact that you are complaining about me, adapting a strategy invented by schestowitz to solve a similar problem, is quite ironic really | Aug 09 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | i truly don't understand "boycott novell" either | Aug 09 19:17 |
| Ariadne | evilnet can "cure" the fact that they fall in the boycott zone | Aug 09 19:17 |
| Ariadne | foxy can quit freenode staff | Aug 09 19:17 |
| Ariadne | evilnet can fire foxy | Aug 09 19:17 |
| Ariadne | that's two ways they can get out of it | Aug 09 19:17 |
| CrystalMath | none of that solves the real problem | Aug 09 19:18 |
| Ariadne | the real problem being that the atheme maintainers are uppity? | Aug 09 19:18 |
| CrystalMath | no, that there is no right-wing free software development IRC network | Aug 09 19:18 |
| Ariadne | start one, atheme will have your back | Aug 09 19:18 |
| Ariadne | this has nothing to do with left vs right politics, and everything to do with andrew lee's war on community autonomy | Aug 09 19:19 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath is too caught in the wing wars to see the real issues involved. | Aug 09 19:19 |
| Ariadne | there are plenty of right-wing networks running atheme | Aug 09 19:20 |
| Ariadne | they haven't ever been cancelled | Aug 09 19:20 |
| Ariadne | we don't care | Aug 09 19:20 |
| Ariadne | we care about taking a network of 90,000 users and then terrorizing the userbase | Aug 09 19:20 |
| blitzed | --MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M | Aug 09 19:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-MASS PSYCHOSIS - How an Entire Population Becomes MENTALLY ILL - YouTube | Aug 09 19:21 | |
| CrystalMath | but you have the mistaken belief that chanops should be allowed to force people to move to a different network | Aug 09 19:21 |
| Ariadne | we have the belief that communities should be allowed to make whatever decisions they want | Aug 09 19:21 |
| Ariadne | if that results in the community being forked, then sure | Aug 09 19:21 |
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| CrystalMath | but you want to allow the situation where a channel is completely disabled on one network | Aug 09 19:22 |
| CrystalMath | i think that's unacceptable | Aug 09 19:22 |
| Ariadne | but atheme (which was the freenode development team unionizing) was started to promote freedom and community autonomy, so it is unsurprising that we would have a bone to pick with andrew | Aug 09 19:22 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: i do not want to allow a situation where a channel is completely disabled on one network | Aug 09 19:23 |
| CrystalMath | i mean, if i ran the script that freenode ran, i would have it affect only non-project channels... | Aug 09 19:23 |
| Ariadne | but, that's not what andrew did | Aug 09 19:23 |
| Ariadne | andrew's script seized the channels from the communities | Aug 09 19:23 |
| Ariadne | and then k-lined the individuals who set the topics mentioning libera | Aug 09 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | okay, so that wasn't great, but even so it's his network | Aug 09 19:24 |
| Ariadne | it is especially the latter part that atheme found unacceptable | Aug 09 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | the people moved to another one as a result | Aug 09 19:24 |
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| CrystalMath | he could have ordered the network to shut down | Aug 09 19:24 |
| CrystalMath | in a way, he did (freenode classic) | Aug 09 19:25 |
| Ariadne | "his network" | Aug 09 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 09 19:25 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: "but even so it's his network" – so Andrew can do what he wants, but Atheme can't? | Aug 09 19:25 |
| Ariadne | historically, that is not the case | Aug 09 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: atheme shouldn't dispute private ownership | Aug 09 19:25 |
| Ariadne | lmfao | Aug 09 19:25 |
| CrystalMath | if it does, its community is crazy | Aug 09 19:25 |
| Ariadne | no, we don't dispute that, because we allowed christel to form freenode limited unilaterally (oopsie) | Aug 09 19:26 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It has a right not to have anything in common with a corporate raid that took place. | Aug 09 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | it's not a corporate raid | Aug 09 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | the corporation owned the network and decided to shut it down | Aug 09 19:26 |
| CrystalMath | then started a new one | Aug 09 19:27 |
| CrystalMath | before the shut down channels were taken but ultimately why is that important really, it was all shut down | Aug 09 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | > require the company to undertake novel measures designed to increase the share value, generally in opposition to the desires and practices of the corporation's current management | Aug 09 19:27 |
| Ariadne | because it was an attack on the very thing atheme was created to promote | Aug 09 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | Okay, the "increase the share value" part doesn't fit. | Aug 09 19:27 |
| Ariadne | i mean, the reality is, atheme was more than willing to continue in its agreement with freenode, under the new leadership | Aug 09 19:29 |
| XRevan86 | The term "raid takeover" in Russian has a different meaning, I don't know how to get that across. | Aug 09 19:29 |
| Ariadne | then rasengan was like "fuck you, i do what i want" | Aug 09 19:29 |
| Ariadne | so, we decided to do likewise | Aug 09 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i still don't think you should cancel a network just because it's doing crazy things | Aug 09 19:29 |
| Ariadne | and it turned out what we want is to not provide free labor to freenode or its associates | Aug 09 19:29 |
| CrystalMath | like i could start a network where network staff owns all the channels | Aug 09 19:30 |
| Ariadne | how are we 'cancelling' freenode? | Aug 09 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | no you're cancelling people who are just vaguely associated | Aug 09 19:30 |
| Ariadne | we simply choose not to provide free labor to it, or its associates | Aug 09 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | even recursively | Aug 09 19:30 |
| XRevan86 | staffer == vaguely associated | Aug 09 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: a friend of a friend of a friend of a staffer? | Aug 09 19:30 |
| Ariadne | other networks run in part by freenode staff can launder freenode's support requests | Aug 09 19:30 |
| CrystalMath | no because freenode does not run atheme | Aug 09 19:31 |
| Ariadne | it does not run atheme because it had no practical choice but to stop | Aug 09 19:31 |
| Ariadne | but that does not change our position, | Aug 09 19:31 |
| Ariadne | other networks run in part by freenode staff can launder freenode's support requests | Aug 09 19:31 |
| CrystalMath | how? | Aug 09 19:31 |
| Ariadne | that freenode does not *presently* have support requests, does not change that the capability exists | Aug 09 19:31 |
| CrystalMath | freenode has zero support requests for atheme | Aug 09 19:31 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: i think that's presuming guilt way too far | Aug 09 19:32 |
| CrystalMath | therefore, you are a bad person | Aug 09 19:32 |
| Ariadne | that's what we agreed to, sorry you don't like it | Aug 09 19:32 |
| CrystalMath | you're all bad people | Aug 09 19:32 |
| Ariadne | just like RMS is called bad for doing activism, too | Aug 09 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | when? | Aug 09 19:33 |
| Ariadne | all the time people say he is bad, haven't you noticed? | Aug 09 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | RMS said free software code from Microsoft is welcome | Aug 09 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | that's why RMS is a good person | Aug 09 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | RMS said Microsoft is allowed to use free software code and get community support | Aug 09 19:33 |
| CrystalMath | RMS went to Microsoft in 2019 and gave a talk there | Aug 09 19:33 |
| Ariadne | evilnet is not blocked from getting community support for atheme | Aug 09 19:34 |
| CrystalMath | i thought it was? | Aug 09 19:34 |
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| Ariadne | no, they are free to ask anybody who is not a party to the boycott whatever they wish | Aug 09 19:34 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: right, it's only the people who are doing the boycott that are bad people, completely unlike RMS who is a great person | Aug 09 19:35 |
| Ariadne | RMS have boycotted things too | Aug 09 19:35 |
| XRevan86 | even Coca-Cola | Aug 09 19:35 |
| psydruid | What happened to Freenode? | Aug 09 19:35 |
| CrystalMath | psydruid: they went SASL-only and finished themselves off | Aug 09 19:35 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: It's dead, Jim. | Aug 09 19:36 |
| psydruid | I was connected using the bouncer and now I have zero channels in my list | Aug 09 19:36 |
| Ariadne | anyway, i am sorry that you don't like that there are an organized boycott against freenode's staff for technical support | Aug 09 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: RMS would never say that some people shouldn't use free software or get support for it | Aug 09 19:36 |
| psydruid | So yeah, I guess it is dead for real now | Aug 09 19:36 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Probably not registered. | Aug 09 19:36 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: well you have to be to use the bnc :P | Aug 09 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: It requires TLS and SASL from everyone. | Aug 09 19:37 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: i've never said that. evilnet is free to use atheme, and get support for it, from somebody other than me | Aug 09 19:37 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: psydruid probably meant his own bouncer, not *the* bouncer. | Aug 09 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: trouble is, even if you are using bnc.freenode.net, you need to set up SASL on it :P | Aug 09 19:37 |
| CrystalMath | if you don't you can't even connect with that! | Aug 09 19:38 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: evilnet's software freedom is not compromised by me saying "sorry, no technical support for associates of freenode" | Aug 09 19:39 |
| activelow | it wasn't SASL which killed freenode | Aug 09 19:39 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: the GPL has a lot to say on this, have you read it? | Aug 09 19:39 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: well it would be weird if it had a forced speech clause | Aug 09 19:40 |
| CrystalMath | i mean i'm not saying you're compromising their software freedom | Aug 09 19:40 |
| Ariadne | 15. Disclaimer of Warranty. | Aug 09 19:40 |
| Ariadne | Aug 09 19:40 | |
| Ariadne | THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. [...] SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION. | Aug 09 19:40 |
| CrystalMath | it just makes you a bad person, that's all, because you are being mean to innocent people | Aug 09 19:41 |
| CrystalMath | that's literally all | Aug 09 19:41 |
| Ariadne | i'm sorry that Gadreel is inconvenienced, but there are two paths that can be taken to solve the issue | Aug 09 19:42 |
| Ariadne | Foxy can quit freenode staff, or he can fire Foxy | Aug 09 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | or he can use anope | Aug 09 19:42 |
| Ariadne | or he can get support from another atheme user who chooses to help him | Aug 09 19:42 |
| Ariadne | so, really, 4 paths | Aug 09 19:42 |
| CrystalMath | i don't understand his terrible choice of service package or even worse choice of ircd | Aug 09 19:42 |
| Ariadne | oh, right, anope does not work with ircu :) | Aug 09 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | nah worse, solanum | Aug 09 19:43 |
| activelow | wiping the databse and pointing freenode domain to irc.com service killed it, not any specific service or ircd or SASL auth | Aug 09 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | activelow: that did cost the most users | Aug 09 19:43 |
| CrystalMath | but we could have saved it at that point | Aug 09 19:44 |
| CrystalMath | heck i was going around convincing people to come back, my channels went back up | Aug 09 19:44 |
| activelow | it cost ALL of them, freenode user count is 0, irc.com got 10K now | Aug 09 19:44 |
| CrystalMath | it was all going great... until the SASL thing | Aug 09 19:44 |
| CrystalMath | many people left even though they have accounts because they can't stand for this | Aug 09 19:44 |
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| activelow | SASL wasn't an issue at all | Aug 09 19:45 |
| CrystalMath | umm | Aug 09 19:45 |
| Ariadne | well, he should be used to this embargo by now, since it also includes solanum | Aug 09 19:45 |
| Ariadne | probably why he DMed me instead of taking the appropriate steps to get support | Aug 09 19:45 |
| Ariadne | :) | Aug 09 19:45 |
| CrystalMath | activelow: SASL killed it, as far as i can see | Aug 09 19:45 |
| CrystalMath | everything was heading on a path of unlikely but possible success | Aug 09 19:45 |
| CrystalMath | SASL however sent it onto ensured failure | Aug 09 19:45 |
| activelow | mandatory registration after wiping the databse did, not SASL | Aug 09 19:46 |
| Ariadne | i don't cross picket lines, CrystalMath | Aug 09 19:46 |
| Ariadne | that's where people chose the picket line to be | Aug 09 19:46 |
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| CrystalMath | activelow: before SASL, registration wasn't mandatory | Aug 09 19:46 |
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| CrystalMath | activelow: becuase once you could connect normally, you had the option of doing NickServ register/login | Aug 09 19:46 |
| CrystalMath | or not doing any of that and just going to channels | Aug 09 19:46 |
| CrystalMath | although the default umode had +R | Aug 09 19:47 |
| CrystalMath | channels still had plenty of visitors | Aug 09 19:47 |
| CrystalMath | i helped plenty of people on #perl | Aug 09 19:47 |
| CrystalMath | it was going fine | Aug 09 19:47 |
| activelow | another issue: since SASL/registration are mandatory there is no reason anymore to block onion exits to prevent SPAM | Aug 09 19:48 |
| CrystalMath | right, there's a tor service | Aug 09 19:49 |
| CrystalMath | is that down? | Aug 09 19:49 |
| activelow | if his highness had permitted onion exits with the new SASl/registration scheme then I may not have dropped the new account | Aug 09 19:49 |
| activelow | last time i tried onion exits were blocked | Aug 09 19:50 |
| CrystalMath | the infra team has also shrunk, not because of some idiot self-righteous developers, but because of the recent changes to staff | Aug 09 19:50 |
| activelow | and no hidden service available either, to my knowledge | Aug 09 19:50 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: anyway for me the point of free software is eliminating the power of developers | Aug 09 19:51 |
| Ariadne | that won't solve your problem | Aug 09 19:51 |
| CrystalMath | which problem? | Aug 09 19:51 |
| CrystalMath | the right-wing IRC network? no :P | Aug 09 19:51 |
| CrystalMath | but the problem of developers having power? yes | Aug 09 19:51 |
| Ariadne | a community at large can still voluntarily organize to deny support to an idiot | Aug 09 19:51 |
| CrystalMath | developers should have NO power | Aug 09 19:52 |
| Ariadne | the people writing the code should have no power | Aug 09 19:52 |
| Ariadne | yet, writing the code is inherently powerful | Aug 09 19:52 |
| Ariadne | yes, this makes sense | Aug 09 19:52 |
| CrystalMath | yes, that's why the GPL requires that the source is out there | Aug 09 19:52 |
| CrystalMath | to create a free market for support | Aug 09 19:52 |
| CrystalMath | RMS's idea was that if someone won't provide support, someone else will | Aug 09 19:53 |
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| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1025193562/the-u-s-attracts-fewer-international-students-loses-billions-in-revenue-heres-wh | Aug 09 19:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Fewer Foreign Students To The U.S. Cost Billions In Revenue Loss : NPR | Aug 09 19:53 | |
| CrystalMath | and i guess nothing has been violated here | Aug 09 19:53 |
| DaemonFC | The universities have finally been filled up with useless SJWs teaching reverse racism and underwater basket weaving that it's no longer worth their time? | Aug 09 19:54 |
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| DaemonFC | "And 70% of international students on American campuses are from Asia. The recent rise in anti-Asian hate crimes have made some of them reconsider their futures in the U.S." | Aug 09 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Almost all of those hate crimes happening in progressive blue states. | Aug 09 19:55 |
| DaemonFC | Places like San Francisco, Chicago, Seattle, NYC. | Aug 09 19:55 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: ding ding ding | Aug 09 19:56 |
| Ariadne | however | Aug 09 19:56 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: is this issue actually unrelated to evilnet? | Aug 09 19:56 |
| Ariadne | my impression was that evilnet ran ircu | Aug 09 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | That's not really surprising considering almost all of the violent crime in America happens in places where the Democrats are the majority. | Aug 09 19:56 |
| DaemonFC | They project it on red states but that's not the truth. | Aug 09 19:56 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: huh, i was told this person wants to run evilnet on solanum and atheme | Aug 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | They have Ariadne maybe convinced to bail on Wyoming, was it? | Aug 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | But then she's more likely to get shot in Chicago for no other reason than they want her phone or money or something. | Aug 09 19:57 |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC: no, the $480k offered for my homestead and neighbor with "we shoot fucking faggots in wyoming" flag was the convincing part | Aug 09 19:57 |
| DaemonFC | Why does it matter more why you were shot than what the odds are? That seems odd. | Aug 09 19:57 |
| MinceR | i can understand atheme's vendetta on freenode for taking over their channel[s], but not the one on evilnet | Aug 09 19:58 |
| Ariadne | who says i would live in chicago | Aug 09 19:58 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah same | Aug 09 19:58 |
| Ariadne | MinceR: common staff | Aug 09 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | I don't know. I certainly can't recommend Chicago, but it's a violent shithole like most Democrat cities. | Aug 09 19:58 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: the very belief that embargos need to recursively spread like that makes you a bad person | Aug 09 19:58 |
| DaemonFC | And they tax you a lot and deliver few services to compensate for it. | Aug 09 19:58 |
| CrystalMath | also i will never join a union | Aug 09 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | At least in red states if the government doesn't do much, your taxes are low and you can get by on your own, most likely. | Aug 09 19:59 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: if the goal is to make it socially expensive to have a freenode o:line, then it needs to be poisonous | Aug 09 19:59 |
| CrystalMath | screw unions, it's just aggressive self-righteous idiots all around | Aug 09 19:59 |
| Ariadne | atheme started as a union so is it really surprising that it behaves like one | Aug 09 19:59 |
| XRevan86 | Crimean companies dodge the embargo by posing as located in St. Petersburg. | Aug 09 19:59 |
| DaemonFC | I would never voluntarily join a labor union. Unfortunately, Illinois Democrats get so much money from them that they passed a law making it illegal not to join a union if most of the retards working there voted one in at some point. | Aug 09 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | And even if the majority changes their mind, it's almost impossible to decertify one once they've set up. | Aug 09 20:00 |
| DaemonFC | People should be very concerned about letting a union into their shop. They should almost certainly vote no. | Aug 09 20:00 |
| Ariadne | well, at the time, freenode's owner was trying to get people to buy him a fucking RV so | Aug 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Most of the union contracts aren't worth the goddamned paper they're printed on, for the workers. | Aug 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Then they steal your money too, before you see it, like the IRS. | Aug 09 20:01 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: What's an RV? | Aug 09 20:01 |
| Ariadne | :D | Aug 09 20:01 |
| MinceR | Ariadne: it was probably andrew's call | Aug 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Recreational Vehicle | Aug 09 20:01 |
| MinceR | he admitted to implementing freenodecom | Aug 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | Indiana makes most of them, btw, afaik. | Aug 09 20:01 |
| DaemonFC | The industry almost collapsed in 2008. | Aug 09 20:02 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: nah | Aug 09 20:02 |
| CrystalMath | i found out who ran the script and asked for it to be written | Aug 09 20:02 |
| CrystalMath | it wasn't rasengan | Aug 09 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | People were taking on loans to buy them, and then credit tightened up and nobody could buy them for a while. | Aug 09 20:02 |
| Ariadne | yeah it was nirvana | Aug 09 20:02 |
| Ariadne | and eskimo wrote it | Aug 09 20:02 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne found out too i see | Aug 09 20:02 |
| MinceR | ic | Aug 09 20:02 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, Other than some crazy politicians at the state level in Indiana, I haven't seen too many people who actually care one way or the other about LGBT issues. | Aug 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | It's a very polite and "Don't bother them, they won't bother you." state. | Aug 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Laws are enforced. If you try to do someone harm and they shoot you, oh well. | Aug 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Exactly how things should be. | Aug 09 20:03 |
| DaemonFC | Crime is out of control in Illinois not just because the Democrat Party is repealing our criminal justice system, or more correctly, what was left of it, but because it's not a stand your ground state, and getting a carry license is difficult. | Aug 09 20:04 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: unfortunately, the desire of that policy is to encourage freenode staff to quit | Aug 09 20:04 |
| DaemonFC | If they reversed that, the citizenry would take care of a lot of these pieces of shit. | Aug 09 20:04 |
| Ariadne | as most of freenode's new staff are hired "professional" ircops | Aug 09 20:05 |
| Ariadne | we wanted to make it expensive for them to remain on staff | Aug 09 20:05 |
| Ariadne | again, sorry that atheme (and then later, the irc development community at large) thought it appropriate to introduce even mild inconvenience | Aug 09 20:05 |
| kingoffrance | enough money to hire ppl, not enough to pay for support? | Aug 09 20:05 |
| DaemonFC | They hire people to preside over a 95% collapse in users. Over the past 100 days or so. | Aug 09 20:06 |
| CrystalMath | kingoffrance: i'd provide support for freenode for free, if only it didn't continuously work on its own destruction | Aug 09 20:06 |
| kingoffrance | im not taking a side either way, but when you say "free market" that generally implies paying for support | Aug 09 20:06 |
| CrystalMath | there's nothing i wouldn't do for a network with freenode's politics, just as long as it doesn't shoot itself in the foot with a machine gun | Aug 09 20:06 |
| kingoffrance | or some other negotiation | Aug 09 20:06 |
| CrystalMath | the politics freenode blogs about are IMO exactly what free software needs | Aug 09 20:07 |
| CrystalMath | and rasengan is totally right about that | Aug 09 20:07 |
| kingoffrance | let me ask you this CrystalMath | Aug 09 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | https://www.npr.org/2021/08/09/1026131599/climate-change-report-takeaways-biden-administration | Aug 09 20:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | A Scientist Highlights What Can Be Done About The Dire Climate Change Report : NPR | Aug 09 20:07 | |
| DaemonFC | LOL@ "The UN". | Aug 09 20:07 |
| kingoffrance | if there is no right wing, and libera whatever is left -- is there any neutral "we dont do politics" remaining? | Aug 09 20:07 |
| DaemonFC | What should we do? Pull out of the UN. Not even Trump would do it though.... :( | Aug 09 20:08 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, just cuz someone says "neutral" doesnt mean they are | Aug 09 20:08 |
| DaemonFC | We pay so that terrorists and China run the place, pretty much./ | Aug 09 20:08 |
| kingoffrance | just does any network even try to do that (other than here) ? | Aug 09 20:08 |
| CrystalMath | kingoffrance: no i don't actually mean a right-wing IRC network, that does exist | Aug 09 20:08 |
| CrystalMath | irc.ircnow.org :P | Aug 09 20:08 |
| CrystalMath | i mean a right-wing-allowing (but neutral) | Aug 09 20:08 |
| CrystalMath | free software-related IRC network | Aug 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC: don't forget the megacorporations | Aug 09 20:09 |
| kingoffrance | ok | Aug 09 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: "cuz someone says" – to CrystalMath it's more important that Andrew wrote "free speech!" than that his network banned people left and right for asking questions. | Aug 09 20:09 |
| MinceR | the WIPO did plenty of dirty, evil work for them | Aug 09 20:09 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: words > actions | Aug 09 20:09 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, I like how the UN works. The US didn't ratify the Law of the Sea treaty, but abides by it anyway. | Aug 09 20:10 |
| kingoffrance | :/ | Aug 09 20:10 |
| XRevan86 | Just appeal to him with words, and ye'll be set. | Aug 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | China ratified it and ignores it completely. | Aug 09 20:10 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 09 20:10 |
| DaemonFC | China "interprets" it to mean you steal an island from the Philippines or something and you get another 200 miles off of that. | Aug 09 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | :) | Aug 09 20:11 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: i only saw people get banned for asking questions repeatedly with no end | Aug 09 20:11 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: i tried to connect to ircnow and it just booted me out, sending seemingly-random bytes over the line | Aug 09 20:11 |
| DaemonFC | The US didn't ratify the treaty on the rights of the child. China did. Children in China have the same rights as anyone else in China. | Aug 09 20:12 |
| DaemonFC | Speak out and it's right this way, to forced labor camps, where nobody hears from you again! | Aug 09 20:12 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: ngircd.... | Aug 09 20:12 |
| CrystalMath | what a server | Aug 09 20:13 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: There is one person that I've no idea how they got banned whatsoever, they aren't very active on IRC. | Aug 09 20:15 |
| CrystalMath | then it could be by mistake | Aug 09 20:15 |
| CrystalMath | i mean even i was Z-lined by mistake | Aug 09 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | > and then k-lined the individuals who set the topics mentioning libera | Aug 09 20:15 |
| XRevan86 | It could be that. | Aug 09 20:15 |
| CrystalMath | but not everyone had that happen | Aug 09 20:16 |
| CrystalMath | i know people who set topics to mention libera who are still connected | Aug 09 20:16 |
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| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: A lot of mistakes there. | Aug 09 20:17 |
| MinceR | z-lining people for having too many connections instead of just denying the new connections is really stupid, for example | Aug 09 20:18 |
| XRevan86 | That was pre-wipe, they're probably not banned anymore. | Aug 09 20:18 |
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| kingoffrance | XRevan86, i only :/ because conway's law. there is a cycle -> permtted words -> permitted definitions -> permitted thoughts -> permitted actions -/ (loop to start) same holds for law, religion, programming languages, (but i repeat myself, twice), etc. :) | Aug 09 20:18 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: well yes but | Aug 09 20:19 |
| CrystalMath | at this point it's better than some of the other decisions :P | Aug 09 20:19 |
| CrystalMath | relatively speaking | Aug 09 20:19 |
| MinceR | we're in a pretty damn place if we have to settle for some decisions being less bad than others | Aug 09 20:19 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: It's great when a politician goes and says "it's time for a change" | Aug 09 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | so action > words, while not untrue, i add another meta layer there :) | Aug 09 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | lol yes | Aug 09 20:19 |
| kingoffrance | completely devoid of any meaning | Aug 09 20:20 |
| kingoffrance | let's go back to time | Aug 09 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: well, freenode isn't doing well :( | Aug 09 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | i really wish it was, though | Aug 09 20:20 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: And then immediately blocks anything remotely like change with all the power they got. | Aug 09 20:20 |
| kingoffrance | we're we operating under assumption there is no time lol | Aug 09 20:20 |
| kingoffrance | *where | Aug 09 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | we could have overcome the attacks from those communists | Aug 09 20:20 |
| CrystalMath | but it seems that wasn't the plan | Aug 09 20:21 |
| MinceR | you couldn't overcome the attacks from andrew lee, though | Aug 09 20:21 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: Yes, when it became known what kind of people freenode got as staff in May, the trajectory in time became apparent. | Aug 09 20:22 |
| XRevan86 | it became a matter of "when" | Aug 09 20:22 |
| kingoffrance | *were | Aug 09 20:23 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: honestly no... there's some great people among new staff | Aug 09 20:23 |
| CrystalMath | such as Foxy | Aug 09 20:23 |
| kingoffrance | same theory behind political correctness too of course | Aug 09 20:24 |
| XRevan86 | kingoffrance: But I disgress. Really the thing about words/actions and time is that different people have different ideas about how ideas like "social justice", "free speech", etc. translate into reality, what actions get us there. | Aug 09 20:25 |
| activelow | why isn't this channel bridged to libera? | Aug 09 20:25 |
| CrystalMath | activelow: libera sucks | Aug 09 20:25 |
| activelow | maybe, didn't register there for, individual, reasons | Aug 09 20:25 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: irc.techrights.org is the only base of operations, it's consolidated. | Aug 09 20:25 |
| activelow | but why does libera suck otherwise? | Aug 09 20:25 |
| CrystalMath | libera is run by radical SJWs | Aug 09 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | who are anti-RMS | Aug 09 20:26 |
| kingoffrance | yes, i saw that recently osi IIRC faq says open source said they have same goals as free software, differ on methods. fsf disagreed with that. | Aug 09 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | and generally want to hijack free software, like parasites, for some other purposes | Aug 09 20:26 |
| XRevan86 | activelow: schestowitz doesn't want to be dependent on third-parties anymore. | Aug 09 20:26 |
| MinceR | what CrystalMath said | Aug 09 20:26 |
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| kingoffrance | evven if the "end product" of some code looks similar, different motivations | Aug 09 20:26 |
| kingoffrance | if nothing else, different communities | Aug 09 20:26 |
| activelow | this is two different questions: 1) why libera sucks. and 2) the decision techrights made | Aug 09 20:26 |
| kingoffrance | even if there may be overlap | Aug 09 20:26 |
| CrystalMath | activelow: i answered the first one | Aug 09 20:27 |
| CrystalMath | and XRevan86 answered the second :P | Aug 09 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Yea, they're radical SJWs, they ban left and right everyone who's remotely non-SJW. | Aug 09 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | like this one time… | Aug 09 20:27 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i see you managed to erase your memories of the letter they signed already | Aug 09 20:27 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: So radical. | Aug 09 20:28 |
| sears_hardware | kingoffrance: Conway's law sounds fun | Aug 09 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | It's so horrible how they ban everyone who has a different opinions, and how they de-staff everyone who didn't sign the letter. | Aug 09 20:28 |
| XRevan86 | * a different set of opinions | Aug 09 20:29 |
| sears_hardware | XRevan86: are you talking about libera or leenode | Aug 09 20:29 |
| kingoffrance | sears_hardware, "agile" sort of used it too | Aug 09 20:29 |
| XRevan86 | sears_hardware: I'm mocking, so ye know I'm not talking about leenode :) | Aug 09 20:29 |
| kingoffrance | so it might have a bad name for some | Aug 09 20:29 |
| XRevan86 | sears_hardware: And of course on leenode the purge is a good thing, because it happens to align with CrystalMath's views, sort of. | Aug 09 20:30 |
| MinceR | sears_hardware: XRevan86 doesn't know what he's talking about. | Aug 09 20:30 |
| kingoffrance | even amongst "agile" ppl who say it got hijacked by marketing whatever | Aug 09 20:30 |
| sears_hardware | idk what any of y'all are talking about but lee bans people all the time | Aug 09 20:30 |
| MinceR | the nice thing about purging everyone is that it aligns with all views that promote any purging | Aug 09 20:31 |
| MinceR | lee bans people all the time, so we should use illibera? it does not follow. | Aug 09 20:31 |
| sears_hardware | i heard there's a nice irc netwok called techrights | Aug 09 20:31 |
| MinceR | indeed there is | Aug 09 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR waives that letter like an ultimate evidence of evil. | Aug 09 20:32 |
| sears_hardware | it's so amazing the possibilities when you aren't stuck choosing between microsoft and macintosh | Aug 09 20:32 |
| sears_hardware | and other false dichotomies | Aug 09 20:32 |
| sears_hardware | i still can't get over how lee talks like a stoner in irc but like a professional pr writer in freenode.net posts | Aug 09 20:32 |
| XRevan86 | All the people are reduced to signatures. How easy to judge, very convinient. | Aug 09 20:33 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: "waive" does not mean what you think it does. and yes, it's a pretty good piece of evidence, seeing how the people on the list asked their signatures to be added themselves and how it's about an SJW anti-free software agenda. | Aug 09 20:33 |
| sears_hardware | sounds like a blockchain | Aug 09 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | sears_hardware: Did ye see his last post though? | Aug 09 20:33 |
| MinceR | i don't see what's "professional" about "hurr durr i have no idea how mRNA works" | Aug 09 20:33 |
| XRevan86 | sears_hardware: It got a lot more stoner-like. | Aug 09 20:33 |
| sears_hardware | i saw the one where he said freenode is moving to "blockchain-basesd authentication" | Aug 09 20:33 |
| sears_hardware | on "ethereum and handshake" | Aug 09 20:33 |
| MinceR | ooh, blockchain | Aug 09 20:33 |
| *MinceR sprinkles some more buzzwords on | Aug 09 20:34 | |
| MinceR | it could be a smart AI on the blockchain in the serverless cloud | Aug 09 20:34 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I like how neither of us actually knows anything about these people,. | Aug 09 20:35 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: libera conducted many purges, they were famous for it, but they did it when they were known as "freenode" | Aug 09 20:35 |
| MinceR | i do know something about them | Aug 09 20:35 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: you may have managed to wipe your knowledge, though | Aug 09 20:35 |
| MinceR | including the affiliations several of them have with ibm and microsoft | Aug 09 20:35 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: libera ircops are horrible fascist people | Aug 09 20:35 |
| CrystalMath | the infamous jesstapo | Aug 09 20:36 |
| CrystalMath | they were mostly notorious when they known as *freenode* though | Aug 09 20:36 |
| CrystalMath | but why should i trust them now? | Aug 09 20:36 |
| kingoffrance | sears_hardware, i think devops is another example, trying to bring previously separate positions closer | Aug 09 20:36 |
| CrystalMath | what, they learned the error of their ways? fat chance | Aug 09 20:36 |
| sears_hardware | kingoffrance: the pendulum swingeth and the pendulum returneth | Aug 09 20:36 |
| kingoffrance | trying to get previously separate people to "speak the same language" | Aug 09 20:36 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: the ability to kill/kline lots of people attracts the wrong sorts of people to ircop positions at major irc networks | Aug 09 20:36 |
| CrystalMath | unfortunately the true free software world is still missing a good IRC network | Aug 09 20:37 |
| MinceR | it seems there are plenty of good irc networks, i even know a few | Aug 09 20:38 |
| MinceR | and they don't ban discussion of free software | Aug 09 20:38 |
| sears_hardware | truth we see not but true | Aug 09 20:38 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I really don't care about ##truth, that could be the difference in judgement. Like ye didn't care about the Charybdis situation. | Aug 09 20:38 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: you also don't care about all the free software developers that got k-lined for supporting Trump | Aug 09 20:39 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I don't have decent information around that. Being involved in the Fedora community is not something I would judge a person for. | Aug 09 20:39 |
| CrystalMath | but technically that was on freenode | Aug 09 20:39 |
| CrystalMath | oh, at least one was k-lined from libera as well | Aug 09 20:40 |
| CrystalMath | heh | Aug 09 20:40 |
| CrystalMath | once a scumbag, always a scumbag applies to libera's ircops | Aug 09 20:40 |
| kingoffrance | sears_hardware, i'd even put that as related https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horror_vacui_(physics) | Aug 09 20:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Horror vacui (physics) - Wikipedia | Aug 09 20:40 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: If they're anything like JesusGod-Pope666.Info, then I can try to understand that decision. | Aug 09 20:40 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: try board members then | Aug 09 20:40 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: who the heck is that? | Aug 09 20:40 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: and that cesspit of evil known as the "gnome foundation" | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: there are peaceful, calm Trump supporters who just oppose socialism and work on free software | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | they attack no one | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | they start no fights | Aug 09 20:41 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Just a person that is delivering the Truth to us, that Catholicism is Satan. | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | that sounds like some nut | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | does that person work on free software? | Aug 09 20:41 |
| CrystalMath | a lot of the people i'm talking about can be found on the pro-RMS signature list | Aug 09 20:42 |
| kingoffrance | sears_hardware, since anything not permitted is "void" so gets replaced with something using "permitted language" whatever | Aug 09 20:42 |
| CrystalMath | especially the non-western names there | Aug 09 20:42 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Also not a homogenous organisation. | Aug 09 20:42 |
| kingoffrance | as in, the permitted language permeates all | Aug 09 20:42 |
| sears_hardware | kingoffrance: very artistic | Aug 09 20:43 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: i wouldn't worry about that, they'll probably get rid of everyone who isn't "woke" enough eventually | Aug 09 20:43 |
| sears_hardware | real talk though - anyone who isn't woke that still stays there deserves their fate | Aug 09 20:44 |
| sears_hardware | did you know that there are still people who use facebook? | Aug 09 20:44 |
| MinceR | yes, sadly | Aug 09 20:44 |
| sears_hardware | and i don't mean africans i mean people that live in the 1st world | Aug 09 20:44 |
| MinceR | "dumb fucks", as fuckerberg would say | Aug 09 20:44 |
| sears_hardware | at this point i agree with him | Aug 09 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | A lot of Ukrai… ah, 1st world, never mind. | Aug 09 20:45 |
| sears_hardware | rip ukraine, pawn on the geopolitical chessboard | Aug 09 20:45 |
| kingoffrance | well, that was h.l. mencken. nature abhors a moron lol | Aug 09 20:45 |
| XRevan86 | sears_hardware: They're riding the wave better than Belarus' at least. | Aug 09 20:46 |
| XRevan86 | Russia and Belarus' had disproportionately huge IT, now it's Ukraine. | Aug 09 20:48 |
| XRevan86 | people actually relocate to Ukraine, that's how rip they are | Aug 09 20:49 |
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| CrystalMath | <sears_hardware> real talk though - anyone who isn't woke that still stays there deserves their fate - i said the same thing about libera.crap | Aug 09 20:54 |
| CrystalMath | so i even told my friend that i shed no tear about him being banned from illibera as i told him not to go there anyway | Aug 09 20:54 |
| CrystalMath | good people should not be there | Aug 09 20:54 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: A channel there? The snippet ye shared? | Aug 09 20:54 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yes, this person was also k-lined now that i remember | Aug 09 20:55 |
| CrystalMath | but, sigh, i guess i could host my open source project channels on Rizon | Aug 09 20:56 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: That's suspicious. | Aug 09 20:57 |
| CrystalMath | as long as the users and other developers are okay with the kawaii moe stuff that permeates rizon, it should be fine :P | Aug 09 20:57 |
| CrystalMath | perhaps a specific network for free software is not needed | Aug 09 21:00 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Is hackint "left-wing"? | Aug 09 21:01 |
| activelow | XRevan86: there is a tendency, yes. such as "pirate party" which proclaimed to protect civil liberties and was elected into Berlin parliament, some time ago. | Aug 09 21:03 |
| activelow | later this movement was hijacked by former "socialist union party" (the left, which renamed itself after 1990 severl times) | Aug 09 21:04 |
| activelow | doesn't mean hackint is left, nonetheless often party politics hijack | Aug 09 21:04 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: hackint is fine but disallows plaintext connections | Aug 09 21:05 |
| activelow | similar to FSFE, which is a party politics outlet of the self-proclaimed "liberals" | Aug 09 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: which is very unfortunate | Aug 09 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | Wait, do people still want clear-text connections? | Aug 09 21:05 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 09 21:05 |
| XRevan86 | not even as legacy? | Aug 09 21:06 |
| MinceR | yes, people do | Aug 09 21:06 |
| CrystalMath | in fact what impacted my channels the most is that people did not want to do SSL | Aug 09 21:06 |
| XRevan86 | but like straight-up "please, give me clear-text" | Aug 09 21:06 |
| CrystalMath | on freenode | Aug 09 21:06 |
| CrystalMath | yes | Aug 09 21:06 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: SSL bloats IRC to 6 times its size | Aug 09 21:06 |
| MinceR | generally, IRC is public | Aug 09 21:06 |
| MinceR | some people use ancient clients | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: PMs aren't :P | Aug 09 21:07 |
| techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▂▂▄▆▂▅▆▅▅▂▃▁▂▅▅▆▅▆▆▃▄▆▂▅▄▃▆▂▄▅▄▁▁ avg(k/sec) 19.73 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂█▁▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂▁▂█▁▂▂▂▂▂▁▂▃▂█▃▂▁▂█▄▁▂█▁ avg(k/sec) 89.05▕ swarm size (avg): 276.48 ⟲ | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | this is why i use SSL | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | at least i should use SSL for networks where i PM | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | but i use it for all | Aug 09 21:07 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: or you could use Tox over Tor, or RetroShare over Tor for that :> | Aug 09 21:07 |
| MinceR | even if you use TLS/SSL, in theory admins could read and change your PMs | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | yeah | Aug 09 21:07 |
| CrystalMath | but i don't think they will :P | Aug 09 21:08 |
| MinceR | then again, you could use DCC CHAT | Aug 09 21:08 |
| MinceR | with or without TLS | Aug 09 21:08 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath: also, i think that if we were to refuse support to a "communist" you would be thrilled with that decision | Aug 09 21:08 |
| CrystalMath | so many of my friends refuse to use hackint | Aug 09 21:08 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: no | Aug 09 21:08 |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: freenode deopped two people for banning people for communism | Aug 09 21:09 |
| CrystalMath | (insomnia and phanes :P) | Aug 09 21:09 |
| CrystalMath | (at this point phanes was only a #freenode chanop) | Aug 09 21:09 |
| *Ariadne shrugs | Aug 09 21:10 | |
| CrystalMath | Ariadne: you see the fact is that the political opinions of developers should be irrelevant | Aug 09 21:10 |
| CrystalMath | because developers should have no power | Aug 09 21:10 |
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| CrystalMath | that's the whole point | Aug 09 21:11 |
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| Ariadne | i have the power to choose what i spend my time on | Aug 09 21:11 |
| CrystalMath | developers have no responsibility to improve the demographics of free software projects | Aug 09 21:11 |
| CrystalMath | why? because they should have no power | Aug 09 21:11 |
| CrystalMath | with no power comes no responsibility | Aug 09 21:11 |
| Ariadne | providing technical support to andrew lee's friends is not something i am required to spend my time on | Aug 09 21:11 |
| *XRevan86 curious about if developers/moderators should have the power to shut people off who speak the Truth about Satan | Aug 09 21:12 | |
| CrystalMath | the list of Andrew Lee's friends is really just freenode.net/people, the rest are now less liked | Aug 09 21:12 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: honestly i don't, unless it's severe spam | Aug 09 21:14 |
| CrystalMath | which it often becomes | Aug 09 21:14 |
| Ariadne | CrystalMath is not doing, allah is doing | Aug 09 21:14 |
| Ariadne | techrights is not doing, allah is doing | Aug 09 21:14 |
| XRevan86 | Ariadne: Oh, I see ye're a woman of culture. | Aug 09 21:15 |
| Ariadne | i forget the rest of the spam | Aug 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | schestowitz-TR, I am filing a lawsuit against Lemonade. | Aug 09 21:15 |
| Ariadne | wtf is lemonade | Aug 09 21:15 |
| XRevan86 | Knowing the Ramzan Kadyrov's phrase. | Aug 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | For violating the Illinois Biometric Privacy Act. | Aug 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | A renter's and homeowner's insurance app. | Aug 09 21:15 |
| Ariadne | o | Aug 09 21:15 |
| Ariadne | i am boring | Aug 09 21:15 |
| DaemonFC | I submitted a loss and they took my facial biometrics and stored them. | Aug 09 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | ( https://youtu.be/CG2ijbTappY ) | Aug 09 21:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-А ты докажи, что не Аллах - YouTube | Aug 09 21:16 | |
| Ariadne | i use USAA for homeowner's insurance | Aug 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | So now I have standing to file a lawsuit against them for that. | Aug 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | So I'm retaining an attorney. | Aug 09 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | (No matter what we ask of you, ye say "from Allah" – and ye prove that not from Allah!) | Aug 09 21:16 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: this was spammed all over freenode years ago | Aug 09 21:16 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, They'll probably settle. | Aug 09 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | Conclusion: Putin is Allah | Aug 09 21:17 |
| Ariadne | yeah what CrystalMath said | Aug 09 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | i think it was skraito's doing | Aug 09 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | but skraito is not doing, Allah is doing | Aug 09 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | so i don't know | Aug 09 21:17 |
| DaemonFC | Some of it will be monetary damages, of course, but I'll ask for part of the settlement to be that they cease the practice and destroy all of the records they took previously if we can do that. | Aug 09 21:17 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath, Ariadne: Just a coincidence? A pity. | Aug 09 21:17 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yeah it would go like "the sun is not doing, Allah is doing; the moon is not doing, Allah is doing" | Aug 09 21:18 |
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| Ariadne | the moon is definitely doing | Aug 09 21:18 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: sometimes "freenode is not doing, Allah is doing" | Aug 09 21:18 |
| CrystalMath | i remmeber that one as well | Aug 09 21:18 |
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| psydruid | Putin Hu Akbar, Alhamdulilah | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | also, | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | gpsd 3.23 is out in most distros today | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | if you use gps for timekeeping | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | you should really upgrade | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | if you don't, October 24th is going to be a bad day for you | Aug 09 21:19 |
| Ariadne | because your system will be taking a trip back to 2001 | Aug 09 21:19 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I feel a spiritual connection with my President just reading that. | Aug 09 21:19 |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: you live in Chechnya?? | Aug 09 21:20 |
| *Ariadne debates making chicken tetrazini for dinner | Aug 09 21:20 | |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: No, the other one. | Aug 09 21:20 |
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| Ariadne | CrystalMath: at any rate, evilnet is not blocked from getting their support from not-me | Aug 09 21:21 |
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| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://youtu.be/CG2ijbTappY | Aug 09 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-А ты докажи, что не Аллах - YouTube | Aug 09 21:21 | |
| XRevan86 | oops, wrong one | Aug 09 21:21 |
| Ariadne | i think it is acceptable to attach preconditions to how my time gets volunteered | Aug 09 21:21 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/KgsmvZcADbU | Aug 09 21:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Путин: Вы Меня Рассмешили - YouTube | Aug 09 21:21 | |
| CrystalMath | XRevan86: yes i remember that | Aug 09 21:24 |
| CrystalMath | :) | Aug 09 21:24 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Did ye see this one: https://youtu.be/RfZqK5YuPLI ? | Aug 09 21:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Рамзан Кадыров - YouTube | Aug 09 21:24 | |
| DaemonFC | Where is schestowitz actually? | Aug 09 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: 17s and 50s are the good moments. | Aug 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | I don't like it when companies do this facial recognition crap. | Aug 09 21:25 |
| Ariadne | hmm, true | Aug 09 21:25 |
| DaemonFC | I'd sue them primarily to poke them in the eye, honestly. They need to cut this out. | Aug 09 21:25 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz has been gone all day | Aug 09 21:25 |
| Ariadne | wonder what that is about | Aug 09 21:25 |
| XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ye should get "I am Russia, don, Russia is I" without translation :). | Aug 09 21:26 |
| Ariadne | i should go visit my grandparents again next week | Aug 09 21:27 |
| Ariadne | the IKEA finally has blahaj back in stock | Aug 09 21:27 |
| *psydruid хочет лучше говорить по-русски и по-сербски | Aug 09 21:27 | |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, Lemonade is basically a tech company that buys reinsurance. | Aug 09 21:30 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Какой, однако, разброс. А чего без западнославянского языка в списке? :) | Aug 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | It's insane, but they offer low rates. | Aug 09 21:30 |
| gustaf | blåhaj | Aug 09 21:30 |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC: shit like that should be illegal | Aug 09 21:30 |
| DaemonFC | Yeah, that's how MetroMile has been operating too. | Aug 09 21:31 |
| Ariadne | you should have a direct relationship with your insurance agent | Aug 09 21:31 |
| Ariadne | anything else is insane | Aug 09 21:31 |
| DaemonFC | There's no agent. | Aug 09 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | Just an app. | Aug 09 21:32 |
| DaemonFC | MetroMile makes more money. If you get a quote in a state they don't operate in, they quietly forward it to other insurance companies and then by the time you get a "Sorry." page, you're forwarded to Progressive or something and they have all your info. | Aug 09 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | That way they get a commission for routing business to companies they don't compete with in that state. | Aug 09 21:33 |
| DaemonFC | brb | Aug 09 21:34 |
| Ariadne | yes | Aug 09 21:34 |
| Ariadne | that's insane | Aug 09 21:34 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, już mówię po polsku, nawet lepiej niż po rosyjsku i po serbsku, ale podobają mi się więcej rosyjski, ukraiński i serbski :) | Aug 09 21:35 |
| kingoffrance | "That way they get a commission for routing business to companies they don't compete with in that state." am i missing something, or does that sound like collusion/monopoly/ ? | Aug 09 21:36 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, Well, when some traditional insurance company offers me a better deal... | Aug 09 21:36 |
| kingoffrance | maybe a less severe word, but ... | Aug 09 21:36 |
| kingoffrance | cartel, bro! | Aug 09 21:37 |
| Ariadne | DaemonFC: and when your fly by night insurance doesn't pay out and you get sued? :p | Aug 09 21:38 |
| Ariadne | i can't believe that flies in illinois | Aug 09 21:38 |
| Ariadne | they would never let that shit happen here | Aug 09 21:39 |
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| DaemonFC | <Ariadne> DaemonFC: and when your fly by night insurance doesn't pay out and you get sued? :p | Aug 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | Illinois forces the other party to sue the insurance company first, up to your limits. | Aug 09 21:39 |
| DaemonFC | The state also forces them to have an account with the state with enough money in it to pay expected claims outstanding if they stop doing business here or declare bankruptcy. | Aug 09 21:40 |
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| DaemonFC | If they tried that, the claim would be paid out from the account on file with the state government. | Aug 09 21:40 |
| DaemonFC | That's why I figure it's safe enough to do business with MetroMile or Root. | Aug 09 21:41 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne, The standard practice with insurance companies and claims is to try to snow the person making the claim under and minimize the settlement offer. | Aug 09 21:42 |
| DaemonFC | You'll get that whether you go with MetroMile or Allstate or State Farm or Liberty Mutual. | Aug 09 21:43 |
| DaemonFC | If they simply paid out and didn't try to lowball people and stall things, they'd end up paying more money and then they'd turn around and raise everybody's rates. | Aug 09 21:44 |
| Ariadne | in oklahoma, they are limited in how much they can do that | Aug 09 21:44 |
| Ariadne | if i total someone's car | Aug 09 21:44 |
| Ariadne | they get a new car of equal value | Aug 09 21:45 |
| Ariadne | it's the law | Aug 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | In Indiana in 2002, a drunk driver took his daughter's car and went drinking. He blew threw a stoplight and rammed the side of my car. | Aug 09 21:45 |
| DaemonFC | Progressive, his daughter's insurance company, offered me $2,200 and said they'd take the car. | Aug 09 21:45 |
| Ariadne | yeah theyre not allowed to do that here :) | Aug 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I told them I wanted the book value of the car, which was $2,800, and I'd keep the car. I'm not a litigious person but I wasn't going to let them roll me like that. | Aug 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I ended up getting the car back and the $2,800. | Aug 09 21:46 |
| DaemonFC | I took it to some hillbilly mechanic out in the country and had him put some doors on it I got at a junkyard. Between paying for those and paying him, I got the car fixed for about $800 and kept the $2,000 for myself. The drunk driver went to jail. | Aug 09 21:47 |
| DaemonFC | Progressive also had to reimburse my insurance for putting me in a rental car for two weeks, because my policy covered it. | Aug 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | So they ended up paying $60 a day for that for 14 days. | Aug 09 21:48 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Уже мовиш польскою, навіть краще ніж російською та сербською, але тобі подобається більше російськая, українська та сербська, я тебе зрозумів. | Aug 09 21:48 |
| DaemonFC | Ariadne On the surface, the idea is sound. | Aug 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | Per-mile insurance. | Aug 09 21:53 |
| DaemonFC | They can quantify how much risk is involved, on average, per mile traveled, and charge for most of the month based on that. | Aug 09 21:53 |
| psydruid | XRevan86, так, я також тебе зрозумів | Aug 09 21:54 |
| DaemonFC | You can game it a little bit by making an effort to find the route with the shortest distance. The funny thing is, that might encourage you to take a riskier path. | Aug 09 21:54 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Я дюже долго думал о "lepiej", так и не смог уразуметь, откуда такому слову взяться. | Aug 09 21:55 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: С "więcej" проще: ещё в праславянском было два синонима для "more", это просто другой. При желании можно встретить как "вяче" или "вяще" (из церковнославянского/староболгарского). | Aug 09 21:58 |
| DaemonFC | I actually gave a "lemons" example yesterday. | Aug 09 21:59 |
| DaemonFC | The company that bags the lemons that get sold at Walmart says they're 2 pound bags. But the bags are anywhere from 2 to 2.35 pounds out of the 11 bags I checked that day. | Aug 09 22:00 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Но украинский к устаревшим словам относится довольно болезненно, потому не буду и пытаться на него натягивать %). | Aug 09 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | If you take the time to weigh all of them, you can leave with 2.35 pounds of lemons instead of 2. Other people won't have the 2.35 pound bag available and probably won't check, and will leave with fewer lemons at the same price you paid. | Aug 09 22:00 |
| DaemonFC | The company broke no laws because of variance rules, you broke no laws because the store said each bag of lemons is the same price. | Aug 09 22:01 |
| DaemonFC | So within the law, you're a little better off at everyone else's expense. | Aug 09 22:01 |
| psydruid | XRevan86: Это очень интересно, так как я постоянно стараюсь изучать славянские языки :) | Aug 09 22:02 |
| XRevan86 | psydruid: Всё, что раньше возрождения украинской литературы (минимум XVIII век), не будет воспринято как слово, имеющее какое-либо отношение к украинскому языку. | Aug 09 22:05 |
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| psydruid | XRevan86, I use the references I find in works like http://sanskrt.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/LekhaCognate-Words-in-Sanskrit-and-Russian.pdf to map many words I learn in Russian and other Slavic languages to those in Sanskrit and Hindi (where applicable), because I find it just makes more sense that way | Aug 09 22:32 |
| AdmFubar | https://hackaday.com/2021/08/09/using-a-laser-to-blast-away-a-bayer-array/ | Aug 09 22:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Using A Laser To Blast Away A Bayer Array | Hackaday | Aug 09 22:35 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/21071537 | Aug 09 22:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5677042) | Aug 09 22:44 | |
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| DaemonFC | I don't know what the size of the settlement would be. | Aug 09 23:31 |
| DaemonFC | Some other BIPA settlements have landed the lead plaintiffs like $50,000 or more after the attorney fees. | Aug 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | That would be hilarious. John got mugged, I filed an insurance claim, BIPA lawsuit happens, I get a windfall. | Aug 09 23:32 |
| DaemonFC | John never figures out that any of this happened. | Aug 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | Meanwhile, I'm driving around in a brand new Big-Ass Car. | Aug 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | MinceR, ^ | Aug 09 23:33 |
| DaemonFC | With money leftover for a down payment on a house and to wipe my records. | Aug 09 23:34 |
| DaemonFC | The universe is a funny place. | Aug 09 23:35 |
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| schestowitz | we have another explosive expose coming short. Part 4. | Aug 09 23:41 |
| schestowitz | Croatia and N. Macedonia | Aug 09 23:42 |
| MinceR | big ass-car | Aug 09 23:42 |
| schestowitz | big-ass car? | Aug 09 23:42 |
| schestowitz | or part ass, part car? | Aug 09 23:42 |
| MinceR | a car that's either made of ass or is designed to transport asses | Aug 09 23:43 |
| MinceR | which is big | Aug 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Aug 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz | analogy came to mind | Aug 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz | seeing what rianne put in tuxmachines | Aug 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz | us moving off the big IRC networks? | Aug 09 23:43 |
| schestowitz | a lot like valve and linux | Aug 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz | no matter the market share of linux on valve | Aug 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz | valve DOES NOT want to be at Microsoft's mercy | Aug 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz | and it's run by someone from MIcorosoft | Aug 09 23:44 |
| schestowitz | who should know well why | Aug 09 23:44 |
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| MinceR | and yet valve is at microsoft's mercy | Aug 09 23:45 |
| MinceR | and as long as steamos is based on Linux and Linux is controlled by the LDF which is controlled by microsoft, valve remains at microsoft's mercy | Aug 09 23:45 |
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| schestowitz | still vastly better than basing on Windows | Aug 09 23:58 |
| schestowitz | you cannot compete with Microsoft when you use Microsoft things, inc. shithub | Aug 09 23:58 |
| schestowitz | so valve need to delete that, too | Aug 09 23:58 |
| DaemonFC | I found that cronie for Linux is now on GitHub. | Aug 09 23:59 |
| MinceR | vastly better, but the difference is being reduced all the time | Aug 09 23:59 |
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