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mateytor because fuck dns, dns is bullshitJun 10 00:00
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mateymost people who try it will get bored and shut theirs down, just like people who start websitesJun 10 00:04
mateythey make a website, get bored, abandon or delete itJun 10 00:04
mateybut everyone who tries it will know how to have an irc server, if they ever need oneJun 10 00:05
mateyor maybe theyll decide they want to do some other kind. thats cool tooJun 10 00:05
mateyeveryone who tries it will see an alternative to dns, and thats maybe the coolest partJun 10 00:05
techrights-newsWe’re Eighteen Today • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165822Jun 10 00:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We're Eighteen Today | Tux MachinesJun 10 00:06
matey;whois pongJun 10 00:06
matey^ good way to tell if youre still connectedJun 10 00:07
mateytheres probably a better oneJun 10 00:07
techrights-newsLinks 09/06/2022: KDE Gear 22.04.2 is Out, Microsoft Abandons GitHub’s ’Open’ Atom to Push Proprietary Instead | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/kde-gear-22-04-2/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/09/kde-gear-22-04-2/Jun 10 00:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 09/06/2022: KDE Gear 22.04.2 is Out, Microsoft Abandons GitHub’s ‘Open’ Atom to Push Proprietary Instead | TechrightsJun 10 00:10
techrights-newsVideo: A Word on Tux Machines at 18 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/tux-machines-at-18/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/09/tux-machines-at-18/Jun 10 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: A Word on Tux Machines at 18 | TechrightsJun 10 00:17
techrights-newsBut moving to Wayland introduces so many other issues for little practical gain https://yewtu.be/watch?v=rDUI39isAKgJun 10 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | How To Configure Multi Monitor In Wayland Sway - InvidiousJun 10 00:28
techrights-newsGNU/Linux Career - Should you apply to a job if you’re missing some "Requirements"? - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=mm6mNlbqBqE ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaJun 10 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Your Linux/DevOps Career - Should you apply to a job if you're missing some "Requirements"? - InvidiousJun 10 00:28
MinceR10 010726 < matey> ^ good way to tell if youre still connectedJun 10 00:30
MinceRi usually use /version for thatJun 10 00:30
techrights-newsLots of Microsoft and now SAP, SAP, SAP, i.e. proprietary holes that have no patches for them and are actively exploited already https://www.cisa.gov/uscert/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/09/cisa-adds-three-known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalogJun 10 00:30
techrights-newsIstio Patches, 3 Versions Released • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165823Jun 10 00:30
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Istio Patches, 3 Versions Released | Tux MachinesJun 10 00:30
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/22053163Jun 10 00:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/335uq1jz8q191.jpg created on 2022-05-31 22:26:45.916107Jun 10 00:31
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techrights-newsCurrent Sensor (ACS712) with Arduino UNO: Using the Hall Effect ⚓ https://peppe8o.com/current-sensor-acs712-with-arduino-uno-using-the-hall-effect/ ䷉ Source: peppe8oJun 10 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-peppe8o.com | Current Sensor (ACS712) with Arduino UNO: Using the Hall EffectJun 10 00:33
techrights-newsAutomated window system helps keep the greenhouse climate regulated | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/09/automated-window-system-helps-keep-the-greenhouse-climate-regulated/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | HackingJun 10 00:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Automated window system helps keep the greenhouse climate regulated | Arduino BlogJun 10 00:34
techrights-news"Staying clean is an environmentally dirty, energy-hungry business." https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/06/really-smart-dishwashers-were-are-you/Jun 10 00:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Really smart dishwashers, were are you? | Stop at Zona-MJun 10 00:35
techrights-newsIt's like they're competing over whose keyboard looks most bizarre, even stupid https://stop.zona-m.net/2022/06/review-of-the-truly-ergonomic-cleave-keyboard/Jun 10 00:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stop.zona-m.net | Review of the Truly Ergonomic Cleave Keyboard | Stop at Zona-MJun 10 00:36
matey/versionJun 10 00:36
mateyoh yeahJun 10 00:37
matey/me tries it for the very first timeJun 10 00:37
techrights-newsOverstating the relevance of Apple-branded chips https://www.kdab.com/universal-binaries/Jun 10 00:37
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MinceRwell, if /me doesn't work, i dunno if /version works :>Jun 10 00:37
mateyit doesJun 10 00:38
techrights-newsGraffiti robot paints like a human | Arduino Blog ⚓ https://blog.arduino.cc/2022/06/09/graffiti-robot-paints-like-a-human/ ䷉ Source: Arduino | Hardware | OpenHardware | HackingJun 10 00:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.arduino.cc | Graffiti robot paints like a human | Arduino BlogJun 10 00:38
mateyi made it through the manualJun 10 00:38
mateysomehow i made it throughJun 10 00:38
MinceR:)Jun 10 00:38
techrights-newsTaint in Perl ⚓ https://theweeklychallenge.org/blog/taint/ ䷉ Source: theweeklychallengeJun 10 00:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theweeklychallenge.org | Taint in PerlJun 10 00:40
schestowitz_TR2matey: when you use "/" it gets interpreted differentlyJun 10 00:46
schestowitz_TR2I was never sure whyJun 10 00:46
MinceRi think he uses some sort of weird gateway from a non-IRC thingJun 10 00:46
techrights-newsPresumed spyware ttps://www.ghacks.net/2022/06/09/opera-88-launches-with-shopping-corner-feature/Jun 10 00:47
techrights-news"Developer Edition model that ships with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Linux instead." https://liliputing.com/2022/06/the-2022-dell-xps-13-is-a-2-6-pound-notebook-with-intel-alder-lake-u-and-windows-or-ubuntu-support.htmlJun 10 00:48
mateyits got nothing to do with a gatewayJun 10 00:48
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mateyno matter how i connect to ANY irc networkJun 10 00:48
mateymy choices are Jun 10 00:48
mateyme thisJun 10 00:48
matey/me thisJun 10 00:48
mateyand ACTION thisJun 10 00:49
mateyACTION does the closest thing to what /me doesJun 10 00:49
techrights-newsProprietary and likely spies on you https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2022/06/vivaldi-mail-is-stable-ready-for-useJun 10 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.omgubuntu.co.uk | Ping – Vivaldi Mail is Stable, Ready for Everyday Use - OMG! Ubuntu!Jun 10 00:49
mateyim literally just typing ACTIONJun 10 00:49
mateyi can do the little <> things too but since those arent standard, why botherJun 10 00:49
techrights-newsApple offers improved Linux support in macOS Ventura http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165736#comment-33928Jun 10 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Graphics Work and Apple Facilitates ARM Linux Virtual Machines | Tux MachinesJun 10 00:50
mateyi dont think "me" or "action" are real commands like the othersJun 10 00:51
MinceRweird client then, perhapsJun 10 00:51
mateythats the really weird thingJun 10 00:51
MinceR/me normally sends a /ctcp ACTIONJun 10 00:51
mateyohhhJun 10 00:51
mateyhmmJun 10 00:51
MinceRwhich is an ordinary PRIVMSG except with a '\001'ACTION before the message and a '\001' after itJun 10 00:51
MinceRor something like thatJun 10 00:52
MinceR('\001' represents ascii code 1)Jun 10 00:52
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mateythats pretty bizarre Jun 10 00:52
MinceRi don't know who hacked it in like thatJun 10 00:52
mateyit sounds too high for king leeJun 10 00:52
mateymaybe elonJun 10 00:52
mateyhe was trying the effects of weed in microgravity and decided to contribute something to irc, which he loved as a kidJun 10 00:53
mateyapart from the fact that this goes back too far for that to be plausibleJun 10 00:53
mateymaybe he got so high he travelled in timeJun 10 00:53
techrights-newsPipeWire 0.3.52 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=PipeWire-0.3.52-ReleasedJun 10 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PipeWire 0.3.52 Released To Continue Enhancing Linux Audio/Video Streams - PhoronixJun 10 00:54
MinceRcould be worseJun 10 00:54
MinceRlike khaledJun 10 00:54
MinceRbut i doubt itJun 10 00:54
mateythen he went on joe rogan to look like just a casual user, not a weed research pushing the boundaries of known physical laws, manJun 10 00:54
MinceRconsidering that CTCP replies use NOTICE and khaled couldn't figure out what NOTICEs are forJun 10 00:54
mateyyeah its a bit farfetchedJun 10 00:54
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165824Jun 10 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 10 00:55
mateybut how else do you explain: an ordinary PRIVMSG except with a '\001'ACTION before the message and a '\001' after itJun 10 00:55
MinceRhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Client-to-client_protocolJun 10 00:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Client-to-client protocol - WikipediaJun 10 00:55
MinceRthis says it comes from ircIIJun 10 00:55
MinceRat least CTCP doesJun 10 00:55
mateysome servers now drop ctcp butJun 10 00:55
mateyim sure they make an exception for /meJun 10 00:55
MinceRCTCP has nothing to do with serversJun 10 00:56
MinceRexcept there are channel modes that can block itJun 10 00:56
techrights-newsLOL. "Dev Ops". What is I am AI Sec Smart Dev DB Ops? https://bryanquigley.com/posts/dev-ops-job.htmlJun 10 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bryanquigley.com | Dev Ops job? | Bryan QuigleyJun 10 00:56
mateyi only say servers becauseJun 10 00:56
MinceRbut i doubt even those block ACTIONJun 10 00:56
mateythat, yesJun 10 00:56
mateythats what i was sayingJun 10 00:56
matey"im sure they make an exception for /me"Jun 10 00:56
techrights-news"TODAY is a special day because tuxmachines.org was registered exactly 18 years ago. We recently renewed this domain's registration for 5 more years (i.e. until middle of 2027) as we certainly expect the site to go on and on for a long time to come." http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165822Jun 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | We're Eighteen Today | Tux MachinesJun 10 00:57
techrights-newsTux Machines (tuxmachines.org) has been steady and vibrant for a very long time; we plan to keep on going for a long time to come because the site is very important to a lot of people http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/tux-machines-at-18/Jun 10 00:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: A Word on Tux Machines at 18 | TechrightsJun 10 00:57
techrights-ipfs-bot ▕  IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▆▁▄▅▄▅▅▆▇▅▅▆▅▆▅▅▅▆▆▆▅▅▆▄▃▄▅▄▄▅▇▄▇▆▆▁ avg(k/sec) 34.23 ▕  IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▂▁▁▂▂▁▂▁▂▁▁▂▁▁▂▁▂▁▂▂▂▁▁▂▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 4.46▕ swarm size (avg): 0  ⟲Jun 10 00:59
techrights-newsAt about 150 million hits per year, in 18 years one can imagine tuxmachines served north of 2 billion files. But we don't keep count and it does not matter.Jun 10 00:59
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MinceR:)Jun 10 00:59
techrights-newsI really like the part where ESR speaks how some people work for 1) recognition 2) more than oneself 3) a sense of helping to improve the world INSTEAD of for money. Around 40 minutes into http://techrights.org/2022/06/09/the-code/Jun 10 01:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Code: Story of GNU/Linux (Documentary Now for Free as in Free Beer) | TechrightsJun 10 01:00
mateyACTION tries thisJun 10 01:03
mateyhmm i got the \001 but im not sure it pastedJun 10 01:04
MinceRdoesn't look like it didJun 10 01:06
MinceRdid you put one at the beginning and also at the end?Jun 10 01:06
mateyecho "\001" | editorJun 10 01:06
mateythen the <> showed up in the editorJun 10 01:06
mateythen i added ACTION tries thisJun 10 01:06
mateyand another <>Jun 10 01:06
mateyim saying <> because if i paste the  it doesnt showJun 10 01:07
mateyof course if i just ACTION do thisJun 10 01:08
mateytheres no ambiguityJun 10 01:08
mateyits only cosmetic, except perhaps on a screen readerJun 10 01:08
mateyfor me this is an intellectual curiosity, but not more important than thatJun 10 01:10
mateyits not like pm doesnt workJun 10 01:10
techrights-newsArduino Projects: Graffit, Greenhouses, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165825Jun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Arduino Projects: Graffiti, Greenhouses, and More | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:11
techrights-newsTop 20 Best Linux Remote Desktop Clients in 2022 (Fast & Secure) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165826Jun 10 01:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Top 20 Best Linux Remote Desktop Clients in 2022 (Fast & Secure) | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:11
mateyit would be neat if pasting in the correctly formatted text "just worked" but so far it doesnt seem toJun 10 01:11
techrights-newsStefano Maffulli thanks Free software https://blog.opensource.org/the-osi-celebrates-maintainer-month/Jun 10 01:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.opensource.org | The OSI celebrates maintainer month - Voices of Open SourceJun 10 01:12
mateyunrelated but similar? (and likely ancient) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1760176Jun 10 01:13
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techrights-newsThis has back doors. And it's ALSO waaaaaayyyyyyy too expensive https://linuxgizmos.com/topaz-2-mini-pc-from-simply-nuc-comes-with-intel-12th-gen-processors-quad-displays-and-dual-ethernet-ports/ x86 = relicJun 10 01:14
mateyhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/34168706/how-to-send-an-action-to-irc-with-python-socketsJun 10 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/topaz-2-mini-pc-from-simply-nuc-comes-with-intel-12th-gen-processors-quad-displays-and-dual-ethernet-ports/ )Jun 10 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | How to send an ACTION to irc with python & sockets - Stack OverflowJun 10 01:14
techrights-newsThere are very visible stock shortages and price hikes in the "Raspi" products. I've checked...Jun 10 01:15
MinceRyeahJun 10 01:16
techrights-newssystemd is ruining the experience of Ubuntu users (and others), unexpectedly killing their applications without even asking for consent https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2022-June/042116.htmlJun 10 01:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.ubuntu.com | systemd-oomd issues on desktopJun 10 01:16
MinceRdoes your client have a /ctcp command?Jun 10 01:16
mateyit does not appear toJun 10 01:16
MinceRor perhaps /action?Jun 10 01:16
mateytried thatJun 10 01:16
mateyit has versionJun 10 01:16
MinceR:)Jun 10 01:17
mateymy guess isJun 10 01:17
techrights-newsSystemd is IBM. IBM aka ICBM. It's good at killing things.Jun 10 01:17
mateyit has version because the server doesJun 10 01:17
mateyand it doesnt have ctcp, at allJun 10 01:17
techrights-news"MultiPath TCP (MPTCP) gives you a way to bundle multiple paths between systems to increase bandwidth and resilience from failures" https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/using-multipath-tcp-better-survive-outages-and-increase-bandwidthJun 10 01:18
mateyso theres no action etcJun 10 01:18
mateybut this is just a guessJun 10 01:18
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techrights-newssystemd "Great. I have seen the new OOM killer the whole gnome-session when things get crazy. I hope it would first kill apps before coming to killing the session itself." https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1328042-ubuntu-deciding-how-to-tame-their-systemd-oomd-killing-experienceJun 10 01:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Ubuntu Deciding How To Tame Their systemd-oomd Killing Experience - Phoronix ForumsJun 10 01:19
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MinceRmaybe systemd could try killing itself to free up memoryJun 10 01:21
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techrights-news"transformation" = more vendor lock-in, more layoffs, more graft https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/digital-transformation-3-ways-it-changes-companiesJun 10 01:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | Digital transformation: 3 ways it changes companies | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 10 01:22
schestowitz                "One of many reasons I don't use systemd and use OpenRC on Gentoo instead, I don't use any of the OOM deamons crap to mitigate low memory scenarios, vanilla Linux is really bad at handling near OOM scenarios, hard to believe that throughout all these years and in 2022 upstream linux does not have a good heuristics to deal with OOM" https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1328042-ubuntu-deciding-how-to-Jun 10 01:22
schestowitztame-their-systemd-oomd-killing-experienceJun 10 01:22
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psydruidmaybe GNU/Linux should drink the Kool-Aid and kill itself along with systemdJun 10 01:29
mateyit does, it just takes little sipsJun 10 01:30
mateygnu/linux IS systemdJun 10 01:30
MinceRno, it's notJun 10 01:30
MinceRGNU/Linux is what systemd is killingJun 10 01:30
mateyyeah, in the way that a parasite kills its hostJun 10 01:31
mateybut removing the parasite also kills the hostJun 10 01:31
MinceRyeahJun 10 01:31
MinceRno, it wouldn't kill the hostJun 10 01:31
MinceRif there's a significant part of the host remaining, anywayJun 10 01:31
mateythe thing is, gnu/linux is gradually being REPLACED with systemdJun 10 01:31
psydruidyesJun 10 01:31
mateyif there's a significant part of the host remaining, anyway <- yes, but more of the people who were interested in that are simply giving up and moving awayJun 10 01:32
mateyif they want to stay, it doesnt bother meJun 10 01:32
psydruidfortunately for us activelow has saved the part of GNU/Linux that was worth saving and got rid of all the fatJun 10 01:32
mateybut if they stay, i know whats going to happen, because i stayed-- for half a decadeJun 10 01:32
mateyand i can tell you how it went and how it will (most likely) go from hereJun 10 01:32
mateyif im wrong? greatJun 10 01:32
mateythen its still gnu/linux and thats another problem-- the linux kernelJun 10 01:32
mateybut those ARE still two separate issues for nowJun 10 01:33
mateytheyre just in a similar categoryJun 10 01:33
mateymy impression of gnu/linux was always that the linux part was optionalJun 10 01:34
mateyseems like one of the things systemd is supposed to fix-- make it depend on linuxJun 10 01:34
mateythat way as linux gets out of hand, what are you gonna do about it?Jun 10 01:34
mateydebian used to have debian/kfreebsd peopleJun 10 01:34
mateydebian used to have hurd (even though i dont care about hurd at all)Jun 10 01:35
mateynow its tied to one kernel, one init, in one swoopJun 10 01:35
mateyof course you can dig it out-- thats the licenseJun 10 01:36
psydruidRed GNU/LinuxJun 10 01:36
mateylets look at the past 7-8 years of effort to undo the corporate effort to make gnu more proprietaryJun 10 01:36
psydruidOne vision for one goalJun 10 01:36
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mateygnu/linux, gnu+linuxJun 10 01:36
mateynow its gnulinux gnuinuxJun 10 01:36
mateygnunixJun 10 01:37
psydruidsygnusd/linuxJun 10 01:37
mateysystemgJun 10 01:37
techrights-news"Generational stereotypes aren’t always insulting, but they can be harmful" https://enterprisersproject.com/article/2022/6/it-hiring-3-myths-about-generational-differences ask ICBM; it's a culprit: http://techrights.org/2022/02/16/only-the-privileged/Jun 10 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-enterprisersproject.com | 3 IT hiring myths about generational differences | The Enterprisers ProjectJun 10 01:37
mateywhats the g stand for? nothing anymoreJun 10 01:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | When Only Rich and Powerful Corporations Can Use Slurs and Hurt Marginalised/Vulnerable People | TechrightsJun 10 01:38
techrights-news"Cockpit is the modern Linux admin interface. We release regularly." https://cockpit-project.org//blog/cockpit-271.htmlJun 10 01:38
techrights-newsEBS Storage Performance Notes – Instance throughput vs Volume throughput https://vivani.net/2022/06/09/ebs-storage-performance-notes-instance-throughput-vs-volume-throughput/Jun 10 01:38
techrights-newsFedora used to attract millions. Now it's just a few thousands. ICBM nuked it. https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/community-blog-monthly-summary-may-2022/Jun 10 01:38
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psydruidgateswareJun 10 01:38
matey"fsf" is pronounced ""Jun 10 01:38
techrights-news"Disclosure: TheCUBE is a paid media partner for the KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe event." This is paid-for "media" "coverage" -- a growing and disturbing trend https://siliconangle.com/2022/06/05/3-insights-might-missed-kubecon-eu-kubecon/?sc_cid=7013a000002q6eQAAQJun 10 01:38
techrights-newsKDE Goals interview: "All about the Apps" with Aleix Pol - Kockatoo Tube ⚓ https://tube.kockatoo.org/w/n4sFdeJ1BrmZwuHRyAwzpo ䷉ Source: KDEJun 10 01:38
mateybecause "theyre all silent"Jun 10 01:38
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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Community Blog monthly summary: May 2022 – Fedora Community BlogJun 10 01:38
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psydruidlike UnixWare and sourcewareJun 10 01:38
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mateysourceware "join me and we will rule the universe together"Jun 10 01:39
matey"for freedom right?"Jun 10 01:39
matey"sure, for freedom!"Jun 10 01:39
techrights-newsBridging the synchronization gap on Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165827Jun 10 01:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Bridging the synchronization gap on Linux | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:39
MinceRone vision, one purposeJun 10 01:41
techrights-newsNow you can boot Linux on Apple devices with A7 and A8 series chips http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165564#comment-33929Jun 10 01:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Have an old iPad lying around? You might be able to make it run Linux soon | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:43
techrights-newsVideos: KDE, Careers, and Wayland • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165828Jun 10 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Videos: KDE, Careers, and Wayland | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:44
techrights-newsFedora Project / Red Hat Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165829Jun 10 01:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Project / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:44
techrights-newsLF = marketing fluff instead of Linux. Self-serving sales. https://linuxfoundation.org/blog/lfx-mentorship-for-me/Jun 10 01:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxfoundation.org | LFX Mentorship for Me - Linux FoundationJun 10 01:45
mateyi think people banking on gnu/linux are probably fooling themselves at this pointJun 10 01:49
mateyif someone can tell me how to liberate linux, or gnuJun 10 01:49
mateyi spent years on that, maybe someone has an idea we havent heard yetJun 10 01:49
mateybut basically everying is just out digging trenches for most of a decadeJun 10 01:49
mateyits just a war of attrition Jun 10 01:50
mateyi dont even think theres an outcome anyone wants, rather its a lower bar of entry for those who want to buy timeJun 10 01:50
mateyand thats fine tooJun 10 01:50
mateypretending theres a future in linux being further taken over doesnt seem useful to meJun 10 01:51
techrights-newsHaiku and FreeBSD OS Development Reports • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165830Jun 10 01:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Haiku and FreeBSD OS Development Reports | Tux MachinesJun 10 01:51
mateybut buying time while they figure out whats left, that at least makes senseJun 10 01:51
mateythats what i was calling it a couple years agoJun 10 01:51
MinceRfor all i know, it could still be the best thing to start a new OS fromJun 10 01:51
mateyit could still be the best thing to start a new OS from <- the advantage is hw support imoJun 10 01:52
mateythe rest is probably hypeJun 10 01:52
mateyit supports more software, but that really just means more people compile software for itJun 10 01:52
mateywhich is a circular marketshare argument-- the more popular kernel gets targeted by more authors-- just like when people cared there was more software for windowsJun 10 01:53
mateythe real advantage is hw supportJun 10 01:53
MinceRi haven't tested enough BSDs yetJun 10 01:53
mateytechnically neither have iJun 10 01:53
MinceRand i don't know why OpenBSD likes to crash on my ExpertBookJun 10 01:53
mateymy criteria are pretty strictJun 10 01:54
matey ExpertBook <- what arch?Jun 10 01:54
MinceRx84_64Jun 10 01:54
MinceRnoJun 10 01:54
MinceRx86_64Jun 10 01:54
psydruidmodel?Jun 10 01:54
MinceRB9450 or something like thatJun 10 01:55
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psydruidmaybe things changed on newer Intel platformsJun 10 02:04
psydruidI only have 6th and 7th gen Intel CoreJun 10 02:04
MinceRi thought "maybe for my main mobile workstation i should stick to something many businesses use for Linux-based stuff, like a ThinkPad", and then my ThinkPad would get that failure to boot with some bullshit about firmware bugs...Jun 10 02:05
techrights-newsMicrobell, spokesperson for AMD https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Financial-Day-2022 no, nothing to do with Linux... but follow the moneyJun 10 02:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-AMD Talks Up Zen 4 AVX-512, Genoa, Siena & More At Financial Analyst Day - PhoronixJun 10 02:09
matey"maybe for my main mobile workstation i should stick to something many businesses use for Linux-based stuff, like a ThinkPad"Jun 10 02:11
MinceRadvanced microbell devices?Jun 10 02:11
mateyit used to be that hardware was designed to run software in generalJun 10 02:11
mateyand then software was divided into two campsJun 10 02:11
matey1. software designed to enable the userJun 10 02:11
matey2. software designed to control the userJun 10 02:11
mateythen, the hardware started being designed to control the useJun 10 02:12
techrights-news33.3% of Phoronix articles yesterday were about AMD, a company with only 15.5k workers. Does that seem disproportionate?Jun 10 02:12
mateythen software that was designed to enable the user started being converted into software designed to control the userJun 10 02:12
mateyso everything (in the x86 world) is now designed to control the userJun 10 02:12
schestowitz_TR2ding ding ding (bell)Jun 10 02:12
mateysame goes for a lot of arm stuff tooJun 10 02:12
psydruidhttps://wccftech.com/ampere-ampereone-cpu-arm-architecture-launch-later-2022-ddr5-pcie-5-0-support-compares-intel-amd-x86-cpus-against-altra-family/Jun 10 02:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wccftech.com | Ampere's AmpereOne CPU With ARM Architecture To Launch Later This Year With DDR5 & PCIe 5.0 Support, Compares Intel & AMD x86 CPUs Against Altra FamilyJun 10 02:13
mateythe point certainly isnt that we will all switch to non-x86 next week. i know i wouldnt do it that soon even if i wanted it toJun 10 02:13
psydruidyou rarely hear this from MicroAMDJun 10 02:13
mateythe point is that from here, x86 only gets worseJun 10 02:13
mateytheres not a lot of happy news thereJun 10 02:14
mateyjust like people wont switch from gnu/linux until they hate it enoughJun 10 02:14
mateypeople wont switch from x86 until they hate it enoughJun 10 02:14
mateywhich means theyre just going to suffer (probably me along with them) until they finally say enough is enoughJun 10 02:14
MinceRi would have liked to switch, but couldn't find anything that isn't worse than x86Jun 10 02:15
mateywhen it comes to x86 stuff, im just like people who still use gnu/linuxJun 10 02:15
psydruidx86 is dead to me, but it is still walking round as a zombieJun 10 02:15
mateycouldn't find anything that isn't worse than x86 <- its hard to findJun 10 02:15
mateyif i didnt trust some people who swear it wont be this way, i wouldnt believe itJun 10 02:15
mateyx86 has no future but at some point we will prefer something elseJun 10 02:15
techrights-newsQt pitching proprietary software https://www.qt.io/blog/scalability-to-the-maxJun 10 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.qt.io | Scalability to the Max – MCU and MPU Development with the Same LicenseJun 10 02:16
mateyi dont think we are there yet, and it will depend on what we think is so great about x86Jun 10 02:16
mateyfor me-- its simply that its what people throw awayJun 10 02:16
mateythats the appealJun 10 02:16
techrights-newsLibreOffice QA/Dev Report: May 2022 https://qa.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/06/09/qa-dev-report-may-2022/Jun 10 02:16
mateyi pay them for it tooJun 10 02:16
mateybut its cheaper because they dont want itJun 10 02:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-qa.blog.documentfoundation.org | QA/Dev Report: May 2022 - LibreOffice QA BlogJun 10 02:17
psydruidit may become harder to justify it even for that reason because of power consumptionJun 10 02:17
mateywell, at some point ill simply be able to go pick cheaper stuff up at a storeJun 10 02:17
psydruidand they aren't going to use less, it is only becoming worseJun 10 02:17
mateyi dont order electronics in the mailJun 10 02:17
mateythey aren't going to use less, it is only becoming worse <- yes, x86 will only get worseJun 10 02:18
mateyit wont get better than thisJun 10 02:18
mateyit already sucksJun 10 02:18
mateywhich means anyone holding out is waiting for it to suck enough to where theyre doneJun 10 02:18
MinceR10 031610 < matey> i dont think we are there yet, and it will depend on what we think is so great about x86Jun 10 02:19
mateywhen windows xp came out i was already done, but had no other optionsJun 10 02:19
techrights-newsLack of water or access to water (humans demand a lot) https://lu.is/blog/2022/06/09/water-on-the-brain-joining-openet-board/Jun 10 02:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lu.is | Water on the brain; joining OpenET board – Luis Villa: Open Tech and PolicyJun 10 02:19
MinceRbeing able to easily boot a bunch of stuff from removable devices without it having to be designed for the exact board is a big oneJun 10 02:19
matey<MinceR> being able to easily boot a bunch of stuff from removable devices without it having to be designed for the exact board is a big on <- thisJun 10 02:19
mateyi knowJun 10 02:19
psydruidI believe they are feeling the heat from Apple, Qualcomm and other companies and keep pushing performance regardless of power consumption and heat, because they have no other choiceJun 10 02:19
techrights-newsCynic: there's a lack of water. Realist: there are just too many people. And it keeps growing and growing...Jun 10 02:20
techrights-newsSailfish OS - Command Line Interface & Customisation • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165831Jun 10 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Sailfish OS - Command Line Interface & Customisation | Tux MachinesJun 10 02:20
techrights-newsRegistration for Linux Plumbers Conference is now open https://lpc.events/blog/2022/index.php/2022/06/09/registration-for-linux-plumbers-conference-is-now-open/ Microsoft was REMOVED as a sponsorJun 10 02:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lpc.events | Registration for Linux Plumbers Conference is now open – Linux Plumbers Conference 2022Jun 10 02:21
mateyin some ways the raspi was like the c64, bbc micro or the zxsinclairJun 10 02:21
mateyin that it has captured so many peoples imaginations and its a household nameJun 10 02:21
mateybut none of those put a computer in every householdJun 10 02:21
techrights-news"Back in 2017 I did work to setup a cross-building toolchain for QT Creator, that takes advantage of Debian's packaging for all the dependency ecosystem. It ended with cbqt which is a little script that sets up a chroot to hold cross-build-dependencies, to avoid conflicting with packages in the host system, and sets up a qmake alternative to make use of them." http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2022/qt5/updating-cbqt-for-bullseyeJun 10 02:22
mateytheres no "pc" of the arm soc world yetJun 10 02:22
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mateyits not compelling enough except for enthusiastsJun 10 02:22
mateyfor some this is a featureJun 10 02:22
mateyi respect thatJun 10 02:22
mateybut we have yet to see non-x86 "take over" the way x86 didJun 10 02:23
mateyeven when we do, it will be more diverseJun 10 02:23
mateythere wont be the full compatibility we have nowJun 10 02:23
schestowitz_TR2what does pc really mean?Jun 10 02:23
mateyif you want everything to work Jun 10 02:23
schestowitz_TR2historically, yesJun 10 02:23
psydruidnon-x86 has already taken over everything but the desktop and the laptopJun 10 02:23
schestowitz_TR2personalJun 10 02:23
schestowitz_TR2as many did not have their ownJun 10 02:23
matey<schestowitz_TR2> what does pc really mean? <- standards people can graspJun 10 02:23
psydruidand that will happen tooJun 10 02:23
matey<psydruid> and that will happen to <- i believe it willJun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2you could say a tablet is a pcJun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2it's a computer and personalJun 10 02:24
matey<schestowitz_TR2> you could say a tablet is a pc <- id rather notJun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2that's why I don't use the term pc, just "desstop/laptop"Jun 10 02:24
mateyit took me at least 15 years to say a mac is a pc :)Jun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2laptop has a physical keybopardJun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2and usually foldsJun 10 02:24
psydruidLoongson already had free firmware that could boot a kernel directly from an ext2 partitionJun 10 02:24
matey<schestowitz_TR2> that's why I don't use the term pc <- it has its usesJun 10 02:24
schestowitz_TR2"desktop" = external screenJun 10 02:25
matey<psydruid> Loongson already had free firmware that could boot a kernel directly from an ext2 partition <- i had oneJun 10 02:25
schestowitz_TR2many sbcs are headlessJun 10 02:25
mateyi wish i could have given it to someone who could better use itJun 10 02:25
mateyi came across other netbooks and used thoseJun 10 02:25
mateyi still have a netbookJun 10 02:25
mateyi use it rarelyJun 10 02:25
psydruidthose systems were meant for developers and enthusiastsJun 10 02:25
mateyi was less of a developer and enthusiast thenJun 10 02:26
psydruidbut I ran everything on itJun 10 02:26
mateyi really just wanted a netbookJun 10 02:26
psydruidincluding YouTube that worked using gnashJun 10 02:26
psydruidthe latest generation of Loongson has become pretty goodJun 10 02:27
mateyits been a long time since ive seen anything like thatJun 10 02:27
mateytoo bad reallyJun 10 02:27
mateyrms got his loongson stolen and then he switched to stinkpadsJun 10 02:28
mateyi dont think theres a connection, but wow, wouldnt that be sinisterJun 10 02:28
psydruidoh wowJun 10 02:28
psydruidso that's why he stopped using itJun 10 02:28
mateyyeah it was stolen in paraguay or uraguay i thinkJun 10 02:28
mateydont ask me which, theres a story about it somewhereJun 10 02:28
psydruidhe simply didn't have it anymoreJun 10 02:28
mateyfsf btw, provides him with a laptopJun 10 02:29
mateyits one of the services they provideJun 10 02:29
mateyhe doesnt get paid by themJun 10 02:29
mateyhe does need a laptopJun 10 02:29
mateywhen his laptop was stolen they gave him anotherJun 10 02:29
psydruidit's the decent thing to do when you are talking about the founderJun 10 02:30
mateyargentinaJun 10 02:30
psydruidor employees in generalJun 10 02:30
mateynearly 10 years ago to the day https://www.theregister.com/2012/06/12/stallman_laptop_stolen/Jun 10 02:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Thief open-sources Richard Stallman's laptop, passport, visa • The RegisterJun 10 02:30
mateyit's the decent thing to do <- it makes senseJun 10 02:30
mateyif the president doesnt have a computer theyre just going to say "well, go buy one"Jun 10 02:31
mateyi mean thats a reasonable thing to put in the budgetJun 10 02:31
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mateyits not a luxuryJun 10 02:31
mateytheyre about SOFTWARE, it runs on comptuersJun 10 02:31
mateystill its one of those things if you didnt know you might not guessJun 10 02:31
schestowitz_TR2you ARE    MSJun 10 02:32
schestowitz_TR2RMSJun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2with his passportJun 10 02:33
matey"Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation, was distressed to find his personal belongings had been liberally distributed sans GPL"Jun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2his laptop...Jun 10 02:33
mateywhat a cunty authorJun 10 02:33
mateyoh its a woman!Jun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2yeah, microsoft registerJun 10 02:33
mateyshe writes like a nasty manJun 10 02:33
mateybut okayJun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2Anna leechJun 10 02:33
mateynice nameJun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2like the thiefJun 10 02:33
schestowitz_TR2https://www.theregister.com/Author/Anna-LeachJun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2became inactive less than a year l;aterJun 10 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10520 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://www.theregister.com/Author/Anna-Leach )Jun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2sacked maybeJun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2https://www.theregister.com/Author/Kieren-McCarthy/Jun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2he used to cover EPO issuesJun 10 02:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Kieren McCarthy • The RegisterJun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2nothing in more than 6 months :/Jun 10 02:34
schestowitz_TR2Microsoft Tim https://www.theregister.com/Author/Tim-AndersonJun 10 02:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | Tim Anderson • The RegisterJun 10 02:35
schestowitz_TR2nothing in more than 4 monthsJun 10 02:35
schestowitz_TR2he moved to some rather obscure and dodgy siteJun 10 02:35
mateysoftly nibbling the hand that feeds itJun 10 02:35
schestowitz_TR2whioch we caught them doing plagiarismJun 10 02:35
schestowitz_TR2RMS bewing robbed is a joke to themJun 10 02:35
schestowitz_TR2I hope someone does this to the author aJun 10 02:36
mateywell yeahJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2and then we can make jokesJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2see how she feelsJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2it's his passport tooJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2and all his dataJun 10 02:36
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schestowitz_TR2iirc, when I met him in person he told me he had lost lots of stuff thereJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2my cousin had a home breakinJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2and all the digital devices got stolentJun 10 02:36
schestowitz_TR2the backups tooJun 10 02:37
schestowitz_TR2no house fire, but it is important to isolate devicesJun 10 02:37
mateyoffsite backups are goodJun 10 02:37
mateyalong with onsite backupsJun 10 02:37
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schestowitz_TR2the backups too can get stolen, at least hide one drive somewhwereJun 10 02:37
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mateyindeedJun 10 02:37
schestowitz_TR2they lost tons of personal thingsJun 10 02:37
schestowitz_TR2like photosJun 10 02:37
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techrights-newsProprietary Software and Holes • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165832Jun 10 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software and Holes | Tux MachinesJun 10 02:39
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techrights-newsProgramming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165833Jun 10 02:39
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techrights-newsToday’s 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165834Jun 10 02:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 02:39
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/nexstar-media-wire/geico-ordered-to-pay-5-2m-to-woman-who-got-hpv-during-sex-in-car/Jun 10 02:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wgntv.com | Geico may have to pay $5.2M to woman who got HPV during sex in car | WGN-TVJun 10 02:42
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techrights-newsBrittany Day at linuxsecurity.com about 70% anti-Linux, or Linux FUD most of the time. Some people register domains with the names of things they fight against.Jun 10 02:51
techrights-newsMisses the point the malware gets there not because of Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165810#comment-33930Jun 10 02:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Security Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 02:53
techrights-newssystemd Kills Apps Too Frequently – Users Aren't Impressed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165829#comment-33932Jun 10 02:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora Project / Red Hat Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 02:56
techrights-newsGNU Hackers’ Meeting 2022 proposal: İzmir, Turkey https://ageinghacker.net/blog/posts/28/ see http://techrights.org/2022/06/02/turkey-in-pictures/Jun 10 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ageinghacker.net | GNU Hackers’ Meeting 2022 proposal: İzmir, Turkey – 2022-06-10 01:55Jun 10 02:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Picture: Updated and Finally Presented About 10 Minutes Ago, Windows Market Share in Turkey Down to 10% | TechrightsJun 10 02:57
DaemonFChttps://metamucilapp.com/products.php?product=Metamucil-Premium-Blend-Sugar%252dFree-Orange-Powder-%252d-30-teaspoonJun 10 02:57
DaemonFCschestowitz_TR2, Metamucil has an app now.Jun 10 02:57
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DaemonFC"What is this shit?"Jun 10 02:58
DaemonFC:)Jun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2Metamucil?Jun 10 02:58
psydruidRule Brittany for a Day, Lose the Region ForeverJun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2sounds like a name of a programmer's packageJun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2musilJun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2meta packageJun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2does it have good apis?Jun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2for the "smarT"?Jun 10 02:58
schestowitz_TR2and for the "hey hi"?Jun 10 02:59
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schestowitz_TR2(muslJun 10 02:59
DaemonFCYou can tell a company how well you're shitting while using their product.Jun 10 02:59
mateyRule Brittany for a Day <- oops, one did it again?Jun 10 02:59
schestowitz_TR2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MuslJun 10 02:59
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DaemonFC"Excuse me while I go shit my guts out!"Jun 10 02:59
DaemonFCOh, happy shitting!Jun 10 02:59
schestowitz_TR2many people are dumb enough to participateJun 10 03:00
schestowitz_TR2it'll hurt themJun 10 03:00
schestowitz_TR2technoology is used a lot to harm peopleJun 10 03:01
schestowitz_TR2and to exploit a presumption of innocenceJun 10 03:01
schestowitz_TR2today I gave Gulag 2 hours of videos of meJun 10 03:01
schestowitz_TR2because of some meetingJun 10 03:01
schestowitz_TR2they record everythingJun 10 03:02
schestowitz_TR2of all particpantsJun 10 03:02
schestowitz_TR2it's 'free'Jun 10 03:02
schestowitz_TR2(not my choice)Jun 10 03:02
mateyserious open portsJun 10 03:02
psydruidyou're going to be famous on GulagTubeJun 10 03:02
schestowitz_TR2I think all major athletes need to give stool samplesJun 10 03:03
schestowitz_TR2also in brach of privacy and dignityJun 10 03:03
schestowitz_TR2because of sopersJun 10 03:03
schestowitz_TR2*dopersJun 10 03:03
schestowitz_TR2I did not give real nameJun 10 03:04
schestowitz_TR2but they see email addressesJun 10 03:04
psydruidsilvio.berlusconi@bunga.comJun 10 03:04
techrights-newsMozilla: we don't use Free software https://www.otsukare.info/2022/06/10/get-browsers-version-macos-zshJun 10 03:05
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mateyjust put alan turing as the nameJun 10 03:05
mateytheres a guy who broke privacy for the best reasonsJun 10 03:05
mateyand also needed privacy for the best reasonsJun 10 03:05
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techrights-newsWhat do the 'Linux' Foundation and ISIS have in common? Both receive bribes from Ericsson.Jun 10 03:07
darwin'source' doesn't mean 'source code' but the project/people or site you get that code fromJun 10 03:07
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techrights-newsWhat is the programming language most commonly used to write malware? JavaScript. But it's typically "legit" and "reputable" malware...Jun 10 03:10
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psydruidGithub is a primary source of malware as is its parent companyJun 10 03:13
techrights-newsSam Hartman: Flailing to Replace Jack with Pipewire for DJ Audio https://hartmans.dreamwidth.org/99762.htmlJun 10 03:14
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schestowitz_TR2psydruid: and npmJun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2but the media blamesJun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2the recipientsJun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2who get the malwareJun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2"Linux"Jun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2Microsoft is the drug lordJun 10 03:15
schestowitz_TR2the drug manufacturer sometimesJun 10 03:16
schestowitz_TR2but you shoot the usersJun 10 03:16
schestowitz_TR2like Duterte doesJun 10 03:16
psydruidthat's why a total breakdown of all information systems is neededJun 10 03:16
psydruidif everything is dead, Microsoft will also dieJun 10 03:17
schestowitz_TR2http://techrights.org/2022/01/21/peak-code-before-the-wars/Jun 10 03:17
schestowitz_TR2http://techrights.org/2022/01/22/lost-source/Jun 10 03:17
psydruidas people may finally see the lightJun 10 03:17
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schestowitz_TR2http://techrights.org/2022/01/23/after-code/Jun 10 03:17
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matey<psydruid> that's why a total breakdown of all information systems is needed <- is it?Jun 10 03:19
mateyi mean a heavy breakdown is neededJun 10 03:20
mateyin society, information tech or bothJun 10 03:20
mateybut imo we have that happening nowJun 10 03:20
mateyit will happenJun 10 03:20
mateyi dont know if it actually needs to be " a total breakdown of all information systems" and im not just being niceJun 10 03:20
mateyimo the spectre of "back to the stone age" is a threat from civilisation itselfJun 10 03:21
matey"LOVE ME OR ILL KILL YOU ALL" it saysJun 10 03:21
matey"LOVE ME OR YOULL HAVE TO GO BACK TO BANGING ROCKS TOGETHER TO COOK FOOD!"Jun 10 03:21
mateyno, there are other optionsJun 10 03:21
mateyanytime you walk away from advanced bullshit it threatens you with historical technologyJun 10 03:22
mateyif you leave microsoft youll have to go back to punch cardsJun 10 03:22
mateythis is just a conceit of society itselfJun 10 03:23
mateyobey or there will be nothing left to do but dig ditchesJun 10 03:23
mateywouldnt you rather put on something ugly and polyestor and take peoples money, with us?Jun 10 03:23
mateythats got to be better than standing out there in the mudJun 10 03:24
mateyit was actually daniel quinn that taught me to fight that mythJun 10 03:24
psydruidI am not sure building castles on a foundation of quicksand is what we should be doingJun 10 03:24
mateythe myth that its either THIS or back to the cavesJun 10 03:24
mateyi mean you can throw a spear, right?Jun 10 03:24
psydruidbut things are already happening, as you sayJun 10 03:24
mateyI am not sure building castles on a foundation of quicksand is what we should be doing <- agreedJun 10 03:24
mateywe need better foundationsJun 10 03:24
mateyand better castlesJun 10 03:25
psydruidthe hardware is being redeveloped from scratchJun 10 03:25
mateywhat we dont need is 20th century corporate mythology to be our guideJun 10 03:25
psydruidand new software is being writtenJun 10 03:25
mateyyesJun 10 03:25
mateyi guess i dont think of that as collapseJun 10 03:26
mateyi think of it as rebuildingJun 10 03:26
mateythe two do largely go hand in hand of courseJun 10 03:26
mateyi mean if things werent collapsing, there would be less motivation for the positive side of itJun 10 03:26
psydruidI think of it as the former world collapsing and a new one being builtJun 10 03:27
mateyits not starting over if learn from previous lessons Jun 10 03:27
psydruidthat doesn't mean we have to go back all the way to the stone ageJun 10 03:27
mateyrebirthJun 10 03:27
psydruidgoing back to renaissance times is fineJun 10 03:28
mateyno, i guess the reason i was surprised i thought you were saying that (i definitely misread)Jun 10 03:28
mateyis thats a myth that goes beyond Jun 10 03:28
matey going back to renaissance times is fine <- well, they use the command line as a spectreJun 10 03:28
mateythen they tell people to learn stuff thats 10x more complicatedJun 10 03:28
mateyits very sillyJun 10 03:28
mateybut the left hand doesnt know what the right is doing anywayJun 10 03:28
mateytonight ive been really toying with putting another distro togetherJun 10 03:29
mateya gnu/linux oneJun 10 03:29
mateyi wouldnt use it on more than one machineJun 10 03:29
mateyand i would only use it on a machine that could run openbsdJun 10 03:29
psydruidI think all modern guis are broken, but some are more broken than othersJun 10 03:29
mateyx11 has always been brokenJun 10 03:29
mateyits like an old soviet mosaic with bits falling offJun 10 03:30
psydruidKDE was just becoming ridiculous with its login timesJun 10 03:30
psydruidI don't want to wait for 2 minutes for all my gui applications to autostartJun 10 03:30
mateyyou inspired me to abandon kde completelyJun 10 03:30
mateyi mean i havent used it in yearsJun 10 03:30
mateyi removed it from the software directoryJun 10 03:30
psydruidwhen it happens within seconds on mateJun 10 03:31
matey I don't want to wait for 2 minutes for all my gui applications to autostart <- fuck i rememeber when microsoft office used toJun 10 03:31
mateyyeah a fork of mate would be better than modern kdeJun 10 03:31
mateyand if trinity moves of github, that option existsJun 10 03:31
psydruidI'm not saying mate is perfect or even greatJun 10 03:31
matey3.5 was pretty fucking fast even on OLD shitJun 10 03:31
mateyits like xp nowJun 10 03:31
mateyno mate is bloated as fuckJun 10 03:32
psydruidit's just that almost everything else is falling apartJun 10 03:32
mateybut not like what they have nowJun 10 03:32
mateyimo desktop environments are a failureJun 10 03:32
mateyfind a window manager you likeJun 10 03:32
mateyinstall some other applicationsJun 10 03:32
mateyvoilaJun 10 03:32
mateyi dont care about suites that dont care about usersJun 10 03:33
psydruidI have done that at times with icewm, fluxbox or gnustepJun 10 03:33
mateyor whi sell out to microsoftJun 10 03:34
mateyid love a fork of icewmJun 10 03:34
mateyits a lot friendlier than dwm (which i like more)Jun 10 03:34
mateyas a beginner id MUCH rather use icewmJun 10 03:34
MinceRwhy not just use icewmJun 10 03:34
psydruidI am afraid all of them are lost causes in the endJun 10 03:34
psydruidbecause they are built on x11Jun 10 03:34
mateyicewm is github based and has more github deps tooJun 10 03:34
mateythey are built on x11 <- when theres an alternative built on sanity not hubris and arrogance, ill be happy to try itJun 10 03:35
mateywayland is built on arrogance and hubrisJun 10 03:35
mateyim not really in love with x11, its what runs my gui stuffJun 10 03:35
mateywayland doesnt even do thatJun 10 03:36
mateyit just fucks with thingsJun 10 03:36
psydruidI trued Wayland a few times but some applications wouldn't runJun 10 03:36
psydruidand it felt slowJun 10 03:36
mateyyeah theyre doing what gnome didJun 10 03:36
mateythey say theyre simplifying, but it still seems more bloatedJun 10 03:37
mateyi dont trust that, though maybe someone can explain it without shilling.Jun 10 03:37
psydruidthat's why I stick to what still worksJun 10 03:37
mateyfacts are ok. its just a lot of them seem to leave the part out that shows what a farce the whole thing isJun 10 03:37
mateyparticularly when they come from corporate fanboysJun 10 03:38
mateylike the stuff about uefiJun 10 03:38
MinceRthat sounds fixable by mirroringJun 10 03:38
mateyyou can make a very long "factual" case for uefiJun 10 03:38
mateyeven secure bootJun 10 03:38
mateybut ultimately it leaves out the reasons id never want itJun 10 03:38
mateyyou can do the same for rustJun 10 03:38
mateyand mincer can blow that away in 30 secondsJun 10 03:38
MinceRrust has so many problems beyond being hosted by MICROS~1Jun 10 03:39
mateyyeah its not like github is the only problem in townJun 10 03:39
matey(theres systemd for example)Jun 10 03:39
mateyno but really, the problems have been increasing in number for yearsJun 10 03:39
psydruida secure boot facility that is completely under the user's control might be usefulJun 10 03:39
mateyyeahJun 10 03:39
mateyand would never happenJun 10 03:40
mateyfsvo neverJun 10 03:40
psydruidbut secure boot on x86 closed source UEFI systems is uselessJun 10 03:40
mateyhttps://yewtu.be/watch?v=oBIxScJ5rlYJun 10 03:40
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MinceRone that's built on a write protect switch instead of (or in addition to) cryptography would likely be even more usefulJun 10 03:40
mateyone that's built on a write protect switch <- yeah i love thoseJun 10 03:41
MinceRor a readonly card slotJun 10 03:41
mateybut i got pretty disillusioned with them since most from the past 2 decades are just suggestionsJun 10 03:41
mateywhat would be better than a switch is a pinout with a separate write pin in the specJun 10 03:42
mateythen you dont have to trust the switchJun 10 03:42
mateyif you put an adapter on that doesnt connect the write pin, its read-onlyJun 10 03:42
mateyyou still have to trust the design obviouslyJun 10 03:42
psydruidthe local secure boot UEFI fanboy has been conspicuously silent for quite some timeJun 10 03:43
mateybut the design and the oem are two different things (somewhat)Jun 10 03:43
mateyfor example, open a macJun 10 03:43
mateyyoull find lots of familiar parts they didnt makeJun 10 03:43
matey conspicuously silent  <- all roys opponents give up eventuallyJun 10 03:43
mateyhe knows that, and its ultimately trueJun 10 03:43
mateyeven if its not for the reasons he thinks it isJun 10 03:43
mateyanyone who thinks they have nothing better to do than fight roy all the time will find out in a couple of years they have other stuff to doJun 10 03:44
mateyimo he was never a full-timer in the first placeJun 10 03:44
mateyi think roy even exaggerates how much theyre at odds (though id never accuse them of agreeing on much)Jun 10 03:45
mateyif it sounds like im implying something there, im really notJun 10 03:45
mateyan exaggeration doesnt always have intrigue behind it-- if anything, i think there is less intrigue than sometimes impliedJun 10 03:45
mateyevery hero needs villians thoughJun 10 03:46
mateyrather than let anyone off the hook i wish he would look at the source, and put 2+2 togetherJun 10 03:47
mateyred hat is red hat, with very few exceptions, if anyJun 10 03:47
mateygives with one hand and takes with the otherJun 10 03:47
mateyhelped build the fsf into what it is today-- that alone is bad enoughJun 10 03:48
mateyif only thats all we could complain about Jun 10 03:48
psydruidat least Sun fought Microsoft until the very endJun 10 03:48
mateyin terms of what theyve done to free software, al capone looks pretty small-timeJun 10 03:48
psydruidRed Hat collaborates with MicrosoftJun 10 03:48
mateyat least Sun fought Microsof <- rightJun 10 03:48
matey Red Hat collaborates with Microsoft <- over and over and over againJun 10 03:49
mateytoo bad bruce perens suggested a novell boycottJun 10 03:49
mateyit could have been boycotredhatJun 10 03:49
mateyor even boycottJun 10 03:49
mateythat would have been sweetJun 10 03:49
mateythen it wouldnt need to be techrightsJun 10 03:49
mateyif youre boycotting red hat youve already figured out the rest :)Jun 10 03:49
psydruidtux rights for cuddly penguins operating tux machines :)Jun 10 03:51
matey>( )<8Jun 10 03:51
mateythat looks like a cross between a penguin and an ostrich, to be niceJun 10 03:52
mateyor maybe a prematurely-born version of big birdJun 10 03:52
mateyif i make a gnu/linux distro again its only going to be to promote things gnu/linux doesnt give a shit aboutJun 10 03:54
psydruidan aborted tuxJun 10 03:54
mateylike openbsdJun 10 03:54
matey an aborted tux <- something like thatJun 10 03:54
mateyi mean was trying to make a penguinJun 10 03:54
psydruidtuxosaurus rexJun 10 03:54
mateythe tux saw usJun 10 03:54
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psydruidthat's what we have nowJun 10 03:55
matey"the cranberries" used to have a longer nameJun 10 03:55
psydruidcute tux became a tuxosaurusJun 10 03:55
psydruidand tuxosaurus keeps getting bigger and biggerJun 10 03:57
psydruidI bet it doesn't like cranberriesJun 10 03:57
mateyit has those stupid little armsJun 10 03:57
mateyi love the shirt someone hadJun 10 03:58
mateyit had a rex with one of those grabber armsJun 10 03:58
mateyand said "NOW IM UNSTOPPABLE!"Jun 10 03:58
mateyvery sillyJun 10 03:58
mateyalso untrueJun 10 03:58
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mateyi dont think it would have saved the rexJun 10 03:59
mateyso it wouldnt stop there of courseJun 10 04:00
mateybut an opengsd (gnu system distribution) distroJun 10 04:00
mateywould have, of course, propaganda about openbsdJun 10 04:01
matey"why dont you just give people openbsd"Jun 10 04:01
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matey"because some people dont think theyre ready"Jun 10 04:01
matey"i used to be one of them"Jun 10 04:01
matey"also mincer can use it on his expertbook (though i doubt he would)"Jun 10 04:01
mateyi mean he can use anything on thereJun 10 04:02
psydruidI first installed Solaris in 2002, FreeBSD in 2004, OpenBSD in 2007 and NetBSD in 2008Jun 10 04:02
mateyif it was just gnu/linux + WORDS that would be next to pointlessJun 10 04:02
mateyOpenBSD in 2007 <- fuckJun 10 04:02
mateysame year i switched fully to gnu/linuxJun 10 04:02
mateyif it was just gnu/linux + WORDS that would be next to pointless <- it would have to make some other efforts tooJun 10 04:03
psydruidthe BSDs became better and GNU/Linux has become what we have nowJun 10 04:03
mateyindeedJun 10 04:03
psydruidI am not even willing to have another look at SlackwareJun 10 04:03
mateyi asked about your beef with themJun 10 04:03
psydruidI think it has gone down the drain with the rest of GNU/LinuxJun 10 04:04
mateyi was left with the impression that theyre not what they used to be, but ive heard that beforeJun 10 04:04
psydruidIt's not just that, it's not a real community projectJun 10 04:04
mateyan openbsd installer is LIGHTJun 10 04:04
psydruidI prefer real community projectsJun 10 04:05
mateyopengsd would have to be light tooJun 10 04:05
mateyit's not a real community project <- is it corporate though?Jun 10 04:05
psydruidIn a way it isJun 10 04:05
mateyand not only light, but sans a bunch of fancy shitJun 10 04:05
psydruidIt's Pat's main source of incomeJun 10 04:06
mateyoofJun 10 04:06
mateyif its from merch, okayJun 10 04:06
psydruidI don't mind people earning money doing what they likeJun 10 04:06
mateybut i think that only works for webcomic artistsJun 10 04:06
mateyme neitherJun 10 04:06
mateyloads of pitfalls of courseJun 10 04:06
psydruidBut that means his priorities will always come firstJun 10 04:06
mateydyne has fallen apart imoJun 10 04:07
mateywhich is funny, id consider using refracta as the baseJun 10 04:07
psydruidSo I would rather contribute to OpenBSD, an actual multi-architecture community projectJun 10 04:07
mateyid rather use debian (haha, shit you not) but sysv is GONE manJun 10 04:07
matey an actual multi-architecture community project <- that would be kickassJun 10 04:08
mateywhats THIS https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/finit-sysvJun 10 04:10
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mateyhttps://packages.debian.org/bookworm/orphan-sysvinit-scripts  Orphaned System-V-like init scripts Jun 10 04:11
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mateyim about as disappointed in devuan as i am in pale moonJun 10 04:11
mateyso if i were going to remix a gnu/linux distro, i would consider debian over devuan PROVIDED I CAN MAKE SYSTEMD NOT PID 1Jun 10 04:12
mateydevuan is never going to be independent of debianJun 10 04:13
mateyits not going to be more than a respinJun 10 04:13
mateythere are better ways even to be systemd-free than either debian or devuanJun 10 04:13
mateybut i dont bother because they do their distro on githubJun 10 04:14
mateywhich i bet is where devuan will go Jun 10 04:14
mateyas dyne is-- ridiculousJun 10 04:14
mateydyne is falling apart faster than the fsfJun 10 04:14
mateyit came second, not first-- only fasterJun 10 04:14
mateyonly org that formally defended rms, so lots of hope for it thereJun 10 04:15
mateyonly oneJun 10 04:15
mateyrefracta would be less trouble to remix thoughJun 10 04:16
psydruidI have only a few reasons for using debianJun 10 04:16
mateyand i would fork the installer to remove-- theres too many questions nowJun 10 04:16
mateymake a simpler installer and keep refracta-installerJun 10 04:16
psydruidI don't want to use any other gnu/linuxJun 10 04:16
matey<psydruid> I don't want to use any other gnu/linux <- this is a distro that would recommend you stop using it and use bsd :)Jun 10 04:17
mateyyoud just be a step ahead of thatJun 10 04:17
psydruidbecause gnu/linux is the past and I don't want to waste my energy on finding alternatives in the gnu/linux spaceJun 10 04:18
mateyindeedJun 10 04:18
mateyi mean this would have to be for funJun 10 04:18
mateyand it would have to be easyJun 10 04:18
mateyand i did a lot of work to make this easy enough for myself :)Jun 10 04:18
matey(and anyone else who wanted to do similar)Jun 10 04:18
psydruidI could and do run BSD on almost all of my older hardware, either OpenBSD or FreeBSDJun 10 04:18
matey I could and do run BSD on almost all of my older hardware, either OpenBSD or FreeBSD <- well, it could quote you :)Jun 10 04:19
psydruidI'll keep just a few (nonexclusive) Debian laptops aroundJun 10 04:19
mateywho knows, maybe youll like opengsd betterJun 10 04:20
mateymaybe not, but youre not the target audience soJun 10 04:20
mateyno worries at allJun 10 04:20
psydruidprobably also dualbooting with BSDJun 10 04:20
mateylet me know how that goesJun 10 04:20
mateyive watched some videos on thatJun 10 04:20
psydruidI already didJun 10 04:20
mateycoolJun 10 04:20
psydruidBut had to reclaim disk spaceJun 10 04:20
mateymmhmmJun 10 04:21
psydruidSo after a storage upgrade I will do it againJun 10 04:21
psydruidI need to keep Vista 10 and 11 VMs around for some purposesJun 10 04:22
psydruidThat was the main issueJun 10 04:22
mateyyuckJun 10 04:22
psydruidAnd they tend to be hugeJun 10 04:22
mateyyeahJun 10 04:22
psydruidif my code doesn't compile and run on Vista for some class(es) I am SOLJun 10 04:23
mateystudents have it rough, i could tell you more storiesJun 10 04:23
mateybut it would hardly be needed to make the obvious clearJun 10 04:23
psydruideven if I do all the coding on another operating systemJun 10 04:23
mateyyou have to test it on somethingJun 10 04:24
psydruidExactlyJun 10 04:24
mateythe last time i did that, i tried fig out on windows 10Jun 10 04:24
mateyin a store evenJun 10 04:25
mateyhehJun 10 04:25
mateyi mean they knewJun 10 04:25
mateyotherwise i dont know what they could do at that pointJun 10 04:25
mateywhen youre a kid you dont careJun 10 04:25
mateyafter that you have to think these things throughJun 10 04:26
psydruidI rarely go to electronic stores anymoreJun 10 04:26
mateyi gotta buy stuff somewhereJun 10 04:27
mateystores are annoying, to put it mildlyJun 10 04:27
mateyid go to newegg, if i could walk into the warehouse and pick it up before the purchaseJun 10 04:27
psydruidbut sometimes I go if I really need somethingJun 10 04:27
psydruidI don't order much online either but sometimes that's the only wayJun 10 04:28
mateyindeedJun 10 04:28
mateyand a lot of times the store orders it onlineJun 10 04:29
mateybut if they already have it in stock, thats good enough for meJun 10 04:29
psydruidI wouldn't be able to buy my ARM SBCs in a local storeJun 10 04:29
mateythats one of the biggest problemsJun 10 04:29
psydruidas I don't want a Raspberry SpyJun 10 04:29
mateyindeedJun 10 04:29
psydruidEven now there are still some problems with drivers, whereas my Orange Pi has pretty much full support even for playing gamesJun 10 04:30
mateyright?Jun 10 04:31
psydruidyesJun 10 04:31
mateyso lets say, this would be fucking weirdJun 10 04:31
psydruidit came from further behind but now it's betterJun 10 04:31
mateybut lets say you had to remaster either debian, or devuan, to make a gnu/linux distro for your classJun 10 04:31
mateydevuan would be less hassle to do this withJun 10 04:31
mateybut theyre not VERY differentJun 10 04:32
mateywhich one do you find the prospect of LESS offensive for?Jun 10 04:32
psydruidwhat I did was to install debian in QEMU, take out the root filesystem and put it on real hardwareJun 10 04:33
matey(ive done both)Jun 10 04:33
mateymmhmmJun 10 04:33
psydruidI don't know if everything works on DevuanJun 10 04:33
psydruidAnd I've never tried itJun 10 04:33
mateyand i dont care if it doesJun 10 04:34
psydruidBut it still feels like a duct tape solutionJun 10 04:34
mateyyeahJun 10 04:34
mateythey got some really fancy tapeJun 10 04:34
psydruidI'd rather use BSD instead of DebianJun 10 04:34
mateybut its an odd jobJun 10 04:34
mateyof courseJun 10 04:34
psydruidWhich I tried too, but none of them would workJun 10 04:35
mateyid rather use a gun to my head than debianJun 10 04:35
mateybut for this its not very important, the only purpose is to demonstrate some things about bsd via gnu/linuxJun 10 04:35
psydruidMy main issue with NetBSD is that it doesn't work on any of my x86 hardwareJun 10 04:36
mateyfor debian id have to fix pid1 in a chrootJun 10 04:36
mateyfor devuan i dontJun 10 04:36
mateyMy main issue with NetBSD is that it doesn't work on any of my x86 hardware <- weird isnt it?Jun 10 04:36
psydruidso I can't even use an x86 install to investigate getting the ARM version working on my SBCJun 10 04:37
psydruidyesJun 10 04:37
mateyive installed it on x86 but i had more luck using openbsd for thatJun 10 04:37
psydruidit's very pickyJun 10 04:37
mateythe netbsd installer is a nightmareJun 10 04:37
mateythe openbsd one is nicestJun 10 04:38
mateyoriginally, worse than everything is the startup of fuguitaJun 10 04:38
psydruidOpenBSD also works on everythingJun 10 04:38
mateywhich is a live openbsd!Jun 10 04:38
matey OpenBSD also works on everything <- but not so much arm and other socsJun 10 04:39
psydruidExcept for MinceR's laptopJun 10 04:39
psydruidyesJun 10 04:39
psydruidthat's the one exception for nowJun 10 04:39
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matey/version is greatJun 10 04:44
mateyi thought the muscle memory of whois pong would be easierJun 10 04:45
mateybut 7 letters is pretty fucking easy wherever you put themJun 10 04:45
mateyas long as theyre on the keyboardJun 10 04:45
psydruid/versionJun 10 04:45
psydruidlolJun 10 04:45
mateyi suppose its 8 with the /Jun 10 04:45
*psydruid versionJun 10 04:46
matey/me considers making more teaJun 10 04:48
psydruidirc.techrights.org: ergo-2.7.0-unreleased-202d9828668b1c76 irc.techrights.orgJun 10 04:48
*psydruid should finally go to sleepJun 10 04:48
mateydo people still do that?Jun 10 04:49
matey/me wonders if theyll ever find a cureJun 10 04:49
mateyim sure it wouldnt be prettyJun 10 04:49
mateya cure for sleepJun 10 04:50
mateyor rather for needing sleepJun 10 04:50
psydruidnot if they are employees 100% of the timeJun 10 04:50
mateythat would not be betterJun 10 04:50
psydruidbecause work must go onJun 10 04:50
mateyemployees need time off whether theyre awake or notJun 10 04:50
mateyone of the best benefits of socialism (but only when it keeps its promises) is a shorter work weekJun 10 04:51
psydruidthey must work in their sleep tooJun 10 04:51
mateythey must work in their sleep too <- yes! this is why the bed wheel was inventedJun 10 04:51
psydruiddream of ways to suck up to their employersJun 10 04:51
mateyyou roll around on it in your sleep and it drives the machines of industryJun 10 04:51
mateyanyway have a good nightJun 10 04:52
matey(dont work too hard)Jun 10 04:52
psydruidgood nightJun 10 04:52
psydruiddefinitely notJun 10 04:52
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mateyso devuan has moved from gitlab to giteaJun 10 05:19
mateywhile dyne has moved to githubJun 10 05:19
mateytry waiting for any of it to make senseJun 10 05:19
mateygitea is way better than gitlab of courseJun 10 05:20
mateyand github is not at allJun 10 05:20
mateyrefracta tools are still based on sourceforgeJun 10 05:23
mateythats better than github at least (not much, a little)Jun 10 05:23
mateythey havent movedJun 10 05:23
matey/me used to remater refracta from 700, 800 down to cd-sizeJun 10 05:29
mateyeven without x11 its 0.5 gbJun 10 05:29
mateywith xfce its 1.2 gbJun 10 05:29
DaemonFChttps://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investigates/closing-of-waukegan-coal-plant-causes-controversy-among-residents/Jun 10 05:39
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DaemonFCThe coal plant finally quit spewing pollution all over us the other day.Jun 10 05:40
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mateythumbprint scanner http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3800/fc03759.pngJun 10 06:27
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techrights-newsMonitor CPU Thermal Temperature in Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165835Jun 10 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Monitor CPU Thermal Temperature in Linux | Tux MachinesJun 10 07:45
techrights-newsManage Flatpak Permission Using Flatseal [Tutorial] • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165836Jun 10 07:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Manage Flatpak Permission Using Flatseal [Tutorial] | Tux MachinesJun 10 07:45
techrights-news#Techrights Bulletin for Thursday, June 09, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintextJun 10 07:46
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techrights-news"Indeed it is a cautionary tale about locking Linux and FreeBSD user accounts." ☛ https://www.cyberciti.biz/networking/a-cautionary-tale-about-locking-linux-freebsd-user-accounts/ | Source: nixCraftJun 10 07:55
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techrights-news"Today, Bourne-style (sh) syntax has come to the fore. It is the one syntax covered by the POSIX standard." ☛ https://klarasystems.com/articles/interacting-with-freebsd-learning-the-fundamentals-of-the-freebsd-shell-2/ | Source: KlaraJun 10 07:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-klarasystems.com | Interacting with FreeBSD – Learning the Fundamentals of the FreeBSD Shell | Klara Inc.Jun 10 07:56
techrights-news[Old] "I love the GPL and see it as a defining factor in the success of Linux" ☛ https://www.eweek.com/enterprise-apps/linus-torvalds-gives-gpl-credit-for-linux-s-success/ |Jun 10 07:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eweek.com | LinuxCon: Linus Torvalds Says GPL Key to Linux SuccessJun 10 07:57
techrights-news[Old] "The GNU General Public License was born of the simple idea that freedom matters." ☛ https://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2017/200/The-GPL-and-the-birth-of-a-revolution | Source: Linux MagazineJun 10 07:57
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techrights-news"Which would be great — except that the forecasts have less data to work with now than they’ve had in years" ☛ https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/partly-cloudy-with-a-75-percent-chance-of-covid-exposure/ | Source: ABCJun 10 07:59
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techrights-news"According to geekwire.com, the tech giant is splitting its HoloLens mixed reality group and parting ways with Kipman." ☛ https://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/corporate-news/microsoft-hololens-chief-to-resign-after-misconduct-allegations/92100928 | Source: India TimesJun 10 08:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com | Microsoft HoloLens chief to resign after misconduct allegations, CIO News, ET CIOJun 10 08:00
techrights-newsThey probably belittle what he ACTUALLY did. Probably some serious crime. https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/microsofts-alex-kipman-resigns-after-being-accused-of-watching-vr-porn-in-office-report/Jun 10 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Microsoft's Alex Kipman resigns after being accused of watching 'VR porn' in office: reportJun 10 08:01
techrights-news"The hateful messages focused on Ethiopia, where internal documents obtained by whistleblower Frances Haugen showed that Facebook's ineffective moderation is “literally fanning ethnic violence,” as she said in her 2021 congressional testimony." ☛ https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/facebook-fails-detect-hate-speech-ads-85282119 | Source: ABCJun 10 08:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Facebook fails again to detect hate speech in ads - ABC NewsJun 10 08:01
techrights-news"If a cryptosystem's algorithm is part of its 'secret key', all three of these things are violated." ☛ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/PublicCryptoAlgorithmsMathWhy | Source: uni TorontoJun 10 08:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/PublicCryptoAlgorithmsMathWhyJun 10 08:02
techrights-news"More than 80 people are feared to have died in Sunday's attack on a church in southwestern Nigeria" ☛ https://abcnews.go.com/International/80-feared-dead-attack-catholic-church-nigeria-sources/story?id=85262564 | Source: ABCJun 10 08:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Over 80 feared dead in attack on Catholic church in Nigeria, sources say - ABC NewsJun 10 08:03
techrights-newsSo China does what the NSA too has been doing. "People’s Republic of China State-Sponsored Cyber Actors Exploit Network Providers and Devices." ☛ https://www.nsa.gov/Press-Room/News-Highlights/Article/Article/3055748/nsa-cisa-and-fbi-expose-prc-state-sponsored-exploitation-of-network-providers-d/ | Source: NSAJun 10 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nsa.gov | NSA, CISA, and FBI Expose PRC State-Sponsored Exploitation of Network Providers, Devices > National Security Agency/Central Security Service > ArticleJun 10 08:05
techrights-news"This joint Cybersecurity Advisory describes the ways in which People’s Republic of China (PRC) state-sponsored cyber actors continue to exploit publicly known vulnerabilities in order to establish a broad network of compromised infrastructure" ☛ https://media.defense.gov/2022/Jun/07/2003013376/-1/-1/0/CSA_PRC_SPONSORED_CYBER_ACTORS_EXPLOIT_NETWORK_PROVIDERS_DEVICES_TLPWHITE.PDF | Source: USDODJun 10 08:05
techrights-newsTwitter Germany ☛ https://medforth.biz/twitter-germany-blocks-tweet-of-austrian-government-politician-regarding-asylum-seekers/ | Source: MedforthJun 10 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-medforth.biz | Twitter Germany blocks tweet of Austrian government politician regarding asylum seekers – Allah's Willing ExecutionersJun 10 08:07
techrights-news"What this almost certainly is: another shakedown attempt. McDonald’s is a big corporation with lots of money." ☛ https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/06/hate-crime-or-shakedown-money-robert-spencer/ | Source: Frontpage MagazineJun 10 08:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Hate Crime or Shakedown for Money? | FrontpageMagJun 10 08:07
techrights-news"The general public doesn’t seem particularly pleased about this ethical gray zone" ☛ https://www.teenvogue.com/story/congress-stock-trading-ban | Source: Teen VogueJun 10 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.teenvogue.com | Congress Stock Trading Leads to Major Conflicts of Interest | Teen VogueJun 10 08:08
techrights-news"Below the slogan was Taiwan's national flag followed by its national emblem." ☛ https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4561098 | Source: Taiwan NewsJun 10 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.taiwannews.com.tw | Anonymous hacks Chinese educational site to mark Tiananmen massacre | Taiwan News | 2022-06-06 11:18:00Jun 10 08:08
techrights-news"Media Matters' Matt Gertz reported that Carlson did not go to commercial break once during the hearing he did not show" ☛ https://www.salon.com/2022/06/09/fox-news-refuses-to-air-jan-6-violence-while-trashing-hearing-as-boring-and-propaganda/ | Source: SalonJun 10 08:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fox News refuses to air Jan. 6 violence while trashing hearing as “boring” and “propaganda” | Salon.comJun 10 08:08
techrights-news"There is no evidence that [Internet] shutdowns have reduced cheating in exams." ☛ https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/06/09/syria-like-much-of-the-arab-world-inflicts-country-wide-internet-blackouts-during-exams | Source: The EconomistJun 10 08:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Syria, like much of the Arab world, inflicts country-wide internet blackouts during exams | The EconomistJun 10 08:09
techrights-newsDRM and losses -- that's what Spotify is. "Spotify wants to make audiobooks the next pillar of its business." ☛ https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/9/23161536/spotify-audiobooks-amazon-audible-podcasts | Source: The VergeJun 10 08:19
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Spotify comes for audiobooks - The VergeJun 10 08:19
techrights-newsMicrosoft is obsolete. Also wrongly assuming people will buy new hardware. ☛ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/microsoft-could-finally-kill-hdd-boot-drives/ | Source: Digital TrendsJun 10 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaltrends.com | Microsoft could finally kill HDD boot drives for good | Digital TrendsJun 10 08:20
techrights-news"Atkinson sued last year claiming that the source material, published in 2008" ☛ https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/netflix-settles-copyright-lawsuit-over-fish-headed-villain-in-the-umbrella-academy-1235162192/ | Source: Hollywood ReporterJun 10 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Netflix Settles Lawsuit Over Fish-Headed ‘Umbrella Academy’ Villain – The Hollywood ReporterJun 10 08:20
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, June 09, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/irc-log-090622/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/irc-log-090622/Jun 10 08:40
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techrights-newsLinus Torvalds Still Loves the GNU General Public License | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/linus-torvalds-still-loves-gpl/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/linus-torvalds-still-loves-gpl/Jun 10 09:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linus Torvalds Still Loves the GNU General Public License | TechrightsJun 10 09:07
techrights-newsShaRPiKeebo handheld Linux computer based on Raspberry Pi Zero (2) W ships with a LoRa radio • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165837Jun 10 09:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ShaRPiKeebo handheld Linux computer based on Raspberry Pi Zero (2) W ships with a LoRa radio | Tux MachinesJun 10 09:14
techrights-newsOne fact that the media did not pay attention to at the time of the talk was, Torvalds (unlike his Microsoft- and VMware-infiltrated employer) strongly supports the GPL http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/linus-torvalds-still-loves-gpl/Jun 10 09:28
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techrights-newsRe: Subscripts And Superscripts In Gemtext gemini://dj-chase.com/documents/re-sub-sup-gemtext.gmiJun 10 09:31
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techrights-newsThey probably belittle what he ACTUALLY did. Probably some serious crime. https://nypost.com/2022/06/08/microsofts-alex-kipman-resigns-after-being-accused-of-watching-vr-porn-in-office-report/Jun 10 09:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nypost.com | Microsoft's Alex Kipman resigns after being accused of watching 'VR porn' in office: reportJun 10 09:36
techrights-newsLinks 10/06/2022: systemd-oomd Killing Software Badly | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/systemd-oomd-rants/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/systemd-oomd-rants/Jun 10 09:45
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techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165838Jun 10 09:46
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techrights-newsMicrosoft Misdeeds • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165839Jun 10 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Misdeeds | Tux MachinesJun 10 09:46
techrights-newsGNU and Programming Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165840Jun 10 09:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU and Programming Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 09:46
techrights-newsJournal of fliptop (1666): "Dear Google: Almost a year ago, in your infinite wisdom, you stopped accepting SpamCop reports." ⚓ https://soylentnews.org/~fliptop/journal/11303 ䷉ Source: soylentnewsJun 10 09:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-soylentnews.org | Journal of fliptop (1666)Jun 10 09:49
techrights-newsold: Debian and Torvalds https://www.hpcwire.com/2000/08/11/idg-linus-torvalds-award-to-be-presented-to-debian/Jun 10 09:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hpcwire.com | IDG/Linus Torvalds Award To Be Presented To DebianJun 10 09:50
techrights-newsThis Bot Posted 3500 R Packages To The AUR!! ⚓ https://odysee.com/@BrodieRobertson:5/this-bot-posted-3500-r-packages-to-the:8 ䷉ Source: BrodieRobertsonJun 10 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-odysee.com | This Bot Posted 3500 R Packages To The AUR!!Jun 10 09:51
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techrights-news"Normally when we talk about our high-security boot firmware PureBoot, it’s in the context of the advanced tamper detection it adds to a system." ☛ https://puri.sm/posts/pureboots-powerful-recovery-console/ | Source: PurismJun 10 09:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-puri.sm | PureBoot's Powerful Recovery Console – PurismJun 10 09:51
techrights-news"While LXD is mostly known for providing system containers, since the 4.0 LTS, it also natively supports virtual machines." ☛ https://ubuntu.com//blog/lxd-virtual-machines-an-overview | Source: UbuntuJun 10 09:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXD virtual machines: an overview | UbuntuJun 10 09:52
techrights-news"The standard model of the MYD-CZU3EG-ISP packs the Zynq UltraScale+ ZU3EG MPSoC which provides a quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 (up to 1.2GHz)" ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/myir-offers-vision-edge-computing-based-on-zynq-ultrascale-mpsoc/ | Source: Linux GizmosJun 10 09:52
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techrights-news"Simply NUC launched the Topaz 2 mini PC which can accommodate the “Alder Lake” processors from Intel." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/topaz-2-mini-pc-from-simply-nuc-comes-with-intel-12th-gen-processors-quad-displays-and-dual-ethernet-ports/ | Source: Linux GizmosJun 10 09:52
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techrights-news"Fedora and RHEL provide system-wide configurations that apply to all cryptographic libraries in the crypto-policies package since RHEL 8" ☛ https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/legacy-cryptography-fedora-36-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux-9 | Source: Red Hat OfficialJun 10 09:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.redhat.com | “Legacy” cryptography in Fedora 36 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 9Jun 10 09:53
techrights-news"Vim is one of the most popular terminal-based text editors for decades." ☛ https://linuxhandbook.com/vim-indentation-tab-spaces/ | Source: Linux HandbookJun 10 09:53
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techrights-news"Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition from Larian Studios recently became Steam Deck Verified." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/one-of-the-highest-rated-games-on-steam-divinity-original-sin-2-is-steam-deck-verified/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-One of the highest rated games on Steam, Divinity: Original Sin 2 is Steam Deck Verified | GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:57
techrights-news"Back in April the Zombie shooter Back 4 Blood added experimental support for the Steam Deck" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/back-4-blood-gets-a-small-update-for-the-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Back 4 Blood gets a small update for the Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:57
techrights-news"Are you wanting to get some hardware from Linux vendor System76 but they don't currently ship to you, or it's expensive to do so?" ☛ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165765#comment-33933 https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/linux-hardware-vendor-system76-is-coming-to-europe/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | System76 to Open Distribution Hub in Europe | Tux MachinesJun 10 09:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux hardware vendor System76 is coming to Europe | GamingOnLinuxJun 10 09:59
techrights-news"Arietta of Spirits, a story-driven action-adventure game with easy to approach game mechanics, has a new update out that makes it run better on the Steam Deck." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/arietta-of-spirits-gets-fixed-up-for-30fps-mode-on-steam-deck/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Arietta of Spirits gets fixed up for 30FPS mode on Steam Deck | GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:00
techrights-news"The Battle Report Update is out now for Dota 2, with the majority of it being for Dota Plus but there's also some of the usual balancing changes" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/dota-2-gets-a-nice-performance-improvement-with-the-vulkan-renderer/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Dota 2 gets a nice performance improvement with the Vulkan renderer | GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:00
techrights-news"Ready for your next set of new games? Humble Bundle have some good choices in their Capcom Summer Bundle and Humble Choice." ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/humble-has-some-great-goodies-in-the-capcom-summer-bundle-and-humble-choice/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:00
techrights-news"It's now confirmed that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge will be launching on June 16, using FNA and it will have a Native Linux version" ☛ https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/06/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-shredders-revenge-releases-june-16/ | Source: GamingOnLinuxJun 10 10:01
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techrights-newsOverpopulation begets the needs for more aggressive social control, both online and offlineJun 10 10:03
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techrights-newsYes, patents kill ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/09/30000-people-have-died-each-day-wto-dragged-its-feet-vaccine-patents-oxfam | Source: Common DreamsJun 10 10:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 30,000 People Have Died Each Day WTO Dragged Its Feet on Vaccine Patents: OxfamJun 10 10:30
techrights-news"Antitrust and telecom experts warned anybody who’d listen that the Sprint and T-Mobile merger (which reduced the number of major U.S. wireless players..." ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/09/right-on-cue-u-s-wireless-prices-creep-skyward-after-mergers/ | Source: TechdirtJun 10 10:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Right On Cue, U.S. Wireless Prices Creep Skyward After Mergers | TechdirtJun 10 10:32
techrights-newsTwitter insurrection ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/09/twitter-fights-back-against-january-6th-committees-dangerously-intrusive-subpoena-demands/ | Source: Techdirt http://techrights.org/2022/03/01/twitter-happier-during-wars/Jun 10 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Twitter Fights Back Against January 6th Committee’s Dangerously Intrusive Subpoena Demands | TechdirtJun 10 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter Profits From Conflict | TechrightsJun 10 10:33
techrights-news"Could Paramount Pictures have actually lost the copyright to Top Gun, even as it was releasing a new Top Gun movie?" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/09/i-feel-the-need-the-need-to-file-frivolous-copyright-lawsuits-to-cash-in-on-top-gun/ | Source: TechdirtJun 10 10:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Feel The Need… The Need To File Frivolous Copyright Lawsuits To Cash In On Top Gun | TechdirtJun 10 10:33
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techrights-newsThe copyright trolls ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/09/us-copyright-small-claims-court-opens-its-doors-next-week-two-questions-remain-will-anyone-use-it-and-is-it-constitutional/ | Source: TechdirtJun 10 10:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Copyright Small Claims Court Opens Its Doors Next Week. Two Questions Remain: Will Anyone Use It… And Is It Constitutional? | TechdirtJun 10 10:34
techrights-news"Welcome to the June edition of the monthly Fortran newsletter." ☛ https://fortran-lang.org/newsletter/2022/06/09/Fortran-Newsletter-June-2022/ | Source: Fortran LangJun 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fortran-lang.org | Fortran newsletter: June 2022 - Fortran Programming LanguageJun 10 10:35
techrights-news"trademark disputes regularly annoy me for a variety of reasons which I cover on this site" ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/09/california-bakery-bullying-suing-others-over-descriptive-mochi-muffin-trademark-it-somehow-got/ | Source: TechdirtJun 10 10:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-California Bakery Bullying/Suing Others Over Descriptive ‘Mochi Muffin’ Trademark It Somehow Got | TechdirtJun 10 10:35
techrights-newsBig Pharma corruption ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/views/2022/06/09/dear-member-congress-lower-drug-prices-now-or-lose-your-job | Source: Common DreamsJun 10 10:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | Dear Member of Congress: Lower Drug Prices Now or Lose Your Job | Laura PackardJun 10 10:36
techrights-newsPATENTS: "Prescription drug spending in the U.S. exceeded half a trillion dollars in 2020." ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/06/09/unbelievable-half-new-drugs-launched-2020-2021-cost-150000-or-more-year | Source: Common DreamsJun 10 10:41
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Unbelievable': Half of New Drugs Launched in 2020-2021 Cost $150,000 or More Per YearJun 10 10:41
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techrights-newsCOVID-19 in England: Testing Down to New Lows, But Cases and Hospitalisations Increase, Even in Summertime (Worst COVID Summer So Far) https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/10/covid-19-in-england-summertime/Jun 10 11:00
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » COVID-19 in England: Testing Down to New Lows, But Cases and Hospitalisations Increase, Even in Summertime (Worst COVID Summer So Far)Jun 10 11:00
techrights-newsGames: Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition, Back 4 Blood, and More • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165841Jun 10 11:04
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Divinity: Original Sin 2 - Definitive Edition, Back 4 Blood, and More | Tux MachinesJun 10 11:04
techrights-newsHungary and ECHR ☛ https://insighthungary.444.hu/2022/06/09/echr-hungarys-treatment-of-asylum-seeker-was-inhuman | Source: Insight HungaryJun 10 11:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insighthungary.444.hu | ECHR: Hungary's treatment of asylum seeker was 'inhuman' - InsightHungaryJun 10 11:07
techrights-news"Successful lawsuits filed by several Israel-based media companies against three pirate streaming sites are proving tricky to wrap up." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-streaming-lawsuit-plaintiffs-want-cloudflare-held-in-contempt-of-court-220609/ | Source: Torrent FreakJun 10 11:07
techrights-news"New research published by the EU Intellectual Property Office shows that piracy remains prevalent among EU youth." ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/eu-piracy-rates-are-the-highest-among-well-educated-youth-220609/ | Source: Torrent FreakJun 10 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Pirate Streaming Lawsuit Plaintiffs Want Cloudflare Held in Contempt of Court * TorrentFreakJun 10 11:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-EU Piracy Rates are the Highest Among Well Educated Youth * TorrentFreakJun 10 11:07
techrights-newsOn inflation ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/09/there-are-better-ways-for-societies-to-address-inflation-than-by-hiking-interest-rates/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 10 11:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-There Are Better Ways for Societies to Address Inflation Than by Hiking Interest Rates - CounterPunch.orgJun 10 11:12
techrights-newsPlunder ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/09/do-we-have-to-give-the-rich-all-of-our-money-enforcing-the-estate-tax/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 10 11:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Do We Have to Give the Rich All of Our Money? Enforcing the Estate Tax - CounterPunch.orgJun 10 11:13
techrights-newsRegulatory Capture ☛ https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/06/09/corruption-and-regulatory-capture/ | Source: Counter PunchJun 10 11:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Corruption and Regulatory Capture - CounterPunch.orgJun 10 11:14
techrights-newsICE ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/trump-ice-officials-thought-immigrant-kids-were-reunited-with-parents-too-soon/ | Microsoft PROFITS from it http://techrights.org/2021/04/04/microsoft-nationalism/Jun 10 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Trump ICE Officials Thought Immigrant Kids Were Reunited With Parents Too SoonJun 10 11:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft: Nationalism As A Service (NaaS) | TechrightsJun 10 11:15
techrights-news"Whether phishing attempts or stolen passwords, attackers use many different tricks to access your emails and steal your important data." ☛ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/protect-your-email/ | Source: PIAJun 10 11:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.privateinternetaccess.com | How to Protect Your Email — Stay Safe from Spam, Malware and Online AttacksJun 10 11:28
techrights-newsRevolving Doors Aren’t Just Annoying ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/09/revolving-doors-arent-just-annoying-theyre-energy-saving-too/ | Source: HackadayJun 10 11:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Revolving Doors Aren’t Just Annoying, They’re Energy Saving Too | HackadayJun 10 11:32
techrights-newsThe Compu-tor Is A Raspberry Pi Laptop In A Mahogany Case • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165842Jun 10 11:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Compu-tor Is A Raspberry Pi Laptop In A Mahogany Case | Tux MachinesJun 10 11:34
techrights-news"Buying broken gear for cheap is time honored hacker tradition, and while we might not always be successful in reviving it, rarely do we come away empty handed." ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/09/swapped-rom-revives-ailing-hp-48s-calculator/ | Source: HackadayJun 10 11:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Swapped ROM Revives Ailing HP-48S Calculator | HackadayJun 10 11:36
techrights-news"Here’s my solution to the formula shortage" ☛ https://www.thenation.com/article/society/baby-formula-crisis/ | Source: The NationJun 10 11:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thenation.com | If Men Could Breastfeed | The NationJun 10 11:37
techrights-newsMouse Charging Mod ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/06/09/mouse-charging-mod-shows-even-simple-hacks-can-end-up-complex/ | Source: HackadayJun 10 11:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mouse Charging Mod Shows Even Simple Hacks Can End Up Complex | HackadayJun 10 11:38
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techrights-newsLinks 10/06/2022: Games and Fortran Newsletter | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/fortran-newsletter/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/fortran-newsletter/Jun 10 11:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 10/06/2022: Games and Fortran Newsletter | TechrightsJun 10 11:54
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techrights-newsToday in #Techrights • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165843Jun 10 12:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Today in Techrights | Tux MachinesJun 10 12:02
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 10 12:30
techrights-news"Patients admitted to hospital, first week of June" https://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2022/06/10/covid-19-in-england-summertime/Jun 10 12:35
techrights-newsSurge XT - virtual synthesizer • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165844Jun 10 12:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Surge XT - virtual synthesizer | Tux MachinesJun 10 12:35
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165845Jun 10 12:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 12:36
techrights-newsHalifax has sent me a card I do not want and did not ask for. I don't want this "smart" nonsense. It's not safe, either.Jun 10 12:40
techrights-newsHalifax plays ball for the "war on cash". Don't fall for false "convenience". Keep paying anonymously with real money.Jun 10 12:41
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MinceR10 044220 < matey> what would be better than a switch is a pinout with a separate write pin in the specJun 10 13:31
MinceRwell, if you don't trust switches, you could use a jumper :>Jun 10 13:32
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/sometimes-tumblr-comments-are-the-best-part-of-the-photo-20-photos-10.jpgJun 10 14:16
psydruidhttps://web.archive.org/web/20220528123058/https://people.csail.mit.edu/weontaek/pubs/PACMAN_ISCA22.pdfJun 10 14:25
psydruidhttps://www.macworld.com/article/708912/mit-pacman-m1.htmlJun 10 14:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Experts warn of 'PACMAN' flaw in M1 chip that can't be patched | MacworldJun 10 14:25
psydruidhttps://www.extremetech.com/extreme/336945-intel-freezes-all-pc-hiring-for-at-least-two-weeksJun 10 14:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Intel Freezes All PC Hiring For at Least Two Weeks - ExtremeTechJun 10 14:46
psydruidmaybe it would be better to stop hiring indefinitelyJun 10 14:47
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 10 15:30
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MinceRhttps://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/sometimes-tumblr-comments-are-the-best-part-of-the-photo-20-photos-13.jpgJun 10 15:53
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schestowitz_TR2hi data_peep Jun 10 15:58
data_peephi peepsJun 10 16:00
schestowitz_TR2we have your dataJun 10 16:00
data_peepwell fuck youJun 10 16:01
schestowitz_TR2jokingJun 10 16:01
schestowitz_TR2maybe not well receivedJun 10 16:01
data_peeporlJun 10 16:01
schestowitz_TR2yeahJun 10 16:01
schestowitz_TR2anyway, welcomeJun 10 16:02
data_peepdata wants to be freeJun 10 16:05
schestowitz_TR2informationJun 10 16:05
schestowitz_TR2data sometimes need shelteringJun 10 16:05
data_peepfree from pimpsJun 10 16:07
schestowitz_TR2people want to be freeJun 10 16:08
schestowitz_TR2pimps are just one class of oppressorsJun 10 16:08
schestowitz_TR2some people are sold by govs. and bosses at workJun 10 16:09
schestowitz_TR2data pimps, tooJun 10 16:09
techrights-newsMonopolies Are Neither Green Nor Sustainable | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/ip5-not-green-or-sustainable/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/ip5-not-green-or-sustainable/Jun 10 16:09
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schestowitz_TR2state-authorised pimpsJun 10 16:10
schestowitz_TR2and literal pimps who sell access to state actorsJun 10 16:10
schestowitz_TR2now they tell us the term "slave" cannot be usedJun 10 16:10
schestowitz_TR2though it perfectly well described many work relationship in present daysJun 10 16:10
schestowitz_TR2not just in "third-world countries"Jun 10 16:10
XRevan86https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/10/the-viceroy "How Sergiey Kiriyenko became Putin’s point man in the Donbas and plans to shape Russia’s ‘post-war image’"Jun 10 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLEJun 10 16:12
techrights-news"watching the recording of my stream and I am blessed to not actually be annoyed by my voice" gemini://alex.flounder.online/journal.gmiJun 10 16:12
XRevan86https://theins.press/en/news/252080Jun 10 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins.press | Prosecutor orders Russian anti-war musician’s radio show off airJun 10 16:12
XRevan86https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/06/10/a77961Jun 10 16:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.themoscowtimes.com | Ukraine Dependent on Arms From Allies After Exhausting Soviet-Era Weaponry - The Moscow TimesJun 10 16:12
schestowitz_TR2peace is a crimeJun 10 16:13
schestowitz_TR2war is justJun 10 16:13
schestowitz_TR2welcome to russiaJun 10 16:13
schestowitz_TR2snowden has not caught any limelight latelyJun 10 16:13
schestowitz_TR2not a good political climate to receive any attentionJun 10 16:13
XRevan86schestowitz: He hasn't written anything on this at all. That's understandable, I guess.Jun 10 16:19
schestowitz_TR2they need to check his beain thenJun 10 16:23
schestowitz_TR2or take surprise stool samplesJun 10 16:23
schestowitz_TR2and then figure out what they say about his political stanceJun 10 16:24
schestowitz_TR2Vladimir Poopin keeps it close to his chestJun 10 16:24
schestowitz_TR2Cargo 300: a tonnage of Putin's '"number 2"Jun 10 16:25
schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BagmanJun 10 16:27
XRevan86Instead of the heavily wounded.Jun 10 16:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10519 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagman )Jun 10 16:28
schestowitz_TR2XFaCE: they are of the same valueJun 10 16:28
schestowitz_TR2to poopin, they're just shitJun 10 16:28
schestowitz_TR2thhere are 150 million of them annywayJun 10 16:28
schestowitz_TR2if he counts women tooJun 10 16:28
techrights-news[Meme] Working for Monopolisers | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/epo-monopolisers/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/epo-monopolisers/Jun 10 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Working for Monopolisers | TechrightsJun 10 16:32
techrights-newsAnother week of excess mortality in England quietly added. Week 17 added... we're in week 21 already. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1081454/Weekly_report_mortality__W23.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1080639/Weekly_report_mortality__W22.pdfJun 10 16:38
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XRevan86https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/10/7351750/Jun 10 17:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Kremlin denies prisoner of war status for two British citizens ''condemned to death'' in the DPR? | Ukrayinska PravdaJun 10 17:02
techrights-news#HowTo get your application to show up in GNOME Software • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165846Jun 10 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to get your application to show up in GNOME Software | Tux MachinesJun 10 17:11
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165847Jun 10 17:11
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 17:11
XRevan86https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/06/10/7351721/Jun 10 17:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | Security Service of Ukraine: invaders planned to distribute Soviet Union passports to residents of Kiev region | Ukrayinska PravdaJun 10 17:16
techrights-news"got my blog re-located finally to https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael after something of a hiatus caused by the demise of people.gnome.org - that lets me continue to be a dinosaur and generate RSS manually and so on." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blogJun 10 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meeksfamily.uk | Stuff Michael Meeks is doingJun 10 17:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meeksfamily.uk | Stuff Michael Meeks is doingJun 10 17:18
techrights-newsMicrosoft accelerates its own death to fake or pretend Vista 11 adoption is OK https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/9/23160968/microsoft-windows-11-unsupported-pcs-22h2-update-release-accidentJun 10 17:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft has accidentally released Windows 11 for unsupported PCs - The VergeJun 10 17:20
techrights-newsReproducible Builds (diffoscope): diffoscope 216 released https://diffoscope.org/news/diffoscope-216-released/Jun 10 17:21
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-diffoscope.org | diffoscope 216 releasedJun 10 17:21
techrights-news"Mozilla will be represented on the WHATWG Steering Group by Tantek Çelik going forward." https://annevankesteren.nl/2022/06/after-mozillaJun 10 17:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-annevankesteren.nl | After Mozilla — Anne’s BlogJun 10 17:23
techrights-newsMicrosoft is just pushing proprietary software; it's not even pretending otherwise https://news.itsfoss.com/atom-being-discontinued/Jun 10 17:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.itsfoss.com | To Favor Microsoft VS Code, Microsoft's GitHub is Killing GitHub's Atom Editor - It's FOSS NewsJun 10 17:35
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techrights-newsFacebook and Iran (corporate media uses the fake name of the company for PR purposes) https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220609-activists-urge-meta-to-overhaul-policies-for-iran-contentJun 10 17:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.france24.com | Activists urge Meta to overhaul policies for Iran contentJun 10 17:46
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techrights-newsConsultation paper on Media Ownership: TRAI-ing to do too much ⚓ https://internetfreedom.in/trai-ing-to-do-too-much/ ䷉ Source: internetfreedomJun 10 17:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-internetfreedom.in | Consultation paper on Media Ownership: TRAI-ing to do too muchJun 10 17:49
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techrights-newsPhoronix used to be pro-Linux. Now it's pro-Phoronix sponsors. That is a problem. Same as Linux [sic] Foundation...Jun 10 17:53
techrights-newsSounds like marketing spam: "Plus, a surprise live unboxing of HP's Dev One Linux laptop." https://feed.jupiter.zone/allshows#entry-8489Jun 10 17:55
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techrights-newsWhy Complex Systems Collapse Faster - Tablet Magazine //www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/why-complex-systems-collapse-faster think systemd...Jun 10 17:56
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165849Jun 10 17:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 10 17:57
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techrights-news"I hope I didn't miss anyone - though of course I have several Linux packaging heros that are (arguably) not per-se app-store packagers I had to miss out: Rene, Petr, Fridrich and no doubt more." https://meeksfamily.uk/~michael/blog/2022-06-10.htmlJun 10 18:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meeksfamily.uk | Stuff Michael Meeks is doingJun 10 18:18
techrights-newsThe collapse of complex software | Read the Tea Leaves //nolanlawson.com/2022/06/09/the-collapse-of-complex-software/Jun 10 18:18
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techrights-ipfs-bot(ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-09.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-06-10.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmiJun 10 18:30
mateythere is one situation where most (same author) is definitely better than using jed (as a less alternative)Jun 10 18:36
mateyif you copy most to /usr/bin/less then it will still work (with colour) when you run man pagesJun 10 18:37
mateyjed (at least by default) will so you ^HS^Htuff like thisJun 10 18:37
SomeH4x0rhiJun 10 18:38
mateyhi someh4x0r, did you see what i said yesterday about irc over tor?Jun 10 18:38
SomeH4x0rI probably missed it, but it should be in my logsJun 10 18:38
mateyi can repeat it if its convenient for youJun 10 18:38
SomeH4x0rokJun 10 18:38
mateybasically since youre interested in setting up irc channels etcJun 10 18:39
mateyyou should (imo) show more people how to setup irc over torJun 10 18:39
mateyits too easy and everyone who is interested enough to try it shouldJun 10 18:39
mateyeven if they only run it for a day, theyve seen irc working without dnsJun 10 18:39
mateywhich is great. then if they ever need an irc channel (or another onion service) they know its something theyve done, its easyJun 10 18:40
mateyeveryone can have their own irc server and they can still group together on the more popular networksJun 10 18:40
techrights-newsMicrosoft Attacking Free Software Again (ro Promote Its Proprietary Stuff Which Spies) • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165850Jun 10 18:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Attacking Free Software Again (ro Promote Its Proprietary Stuff Which Spies) | Tux MachinesJun 10 18:40
SomeH4x0rI don't atm, however on UplinkIRC I try to teach people IRC basics, some people become regulars, some stay for a few daysJun 10 18:41
mateyits just an idea, something to consider now or in the futureJun 10 18:41
mateysetting up tor and irc really isnt hardJun 10 18:41
techrights-newssongs for the road ahead gemini://midnight.pub/posts/1003Jun 10 18:42
mateyas yo uknowJun 10 18:42
mateyit would be cool if more people knew thatJun 10 18:42
techrights-newsNew Digs and Thoughts About Transportation and Community gemini://gemini.cyberbot.space/gemlog/2022-06-10-transportation.gmiJun 10 18:42
mateymy associate even thinks it could help reboot hacker culture (maybe...)Jun 10 18:42
mateyid certainly recommend it over any fediverse crapJun 10 18:43
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mateyinstalling gnu/penguinshit for the first time in nearly 2 yearsJun 10 18:55
SomeH4x0rbtw, Sweety, a person I met on UplinkIRC a few months ago, did appear on TWISTED againJun 10 18:56
SomeH4x0rno idea if you seen themJun 10 18:56
SomeH4x0rthey wanted to switch to GNU/Linux, but yet failedJun 10 18:57
mateywhich distro did they try\Jun 10 18:57
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MinceR(cat) https://obviousplant.tumblr.com/post/157321652768/i-gave-these-adoptable-cats-some-interesting-likesJun 10 18:59
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SomeH4x0rcan't remember, iirc Linux Mint at leastJun 10 18:59
SomeH4x0rbutJun 10 18:59
SomeH4x0r19:01 < SomeH4x0r> btw did you switch to GNU/Linux?Jun 10 18:59
SomeH4x0r19:03 < Sweety> i gave up, every one distribution had errorsJun 10 18:59
schestowitz_TR2maybe we can help solve some of themJun 10 19:00
matey/me has gnu installedJun 10 19:01
SomeH4x0rtell them to come back to techrightsJun 10 19:02
mateyone machine, which already works fine with openbsdJun 10 19:02
mateybut since im probably going to make something for gnu/linux with this, ive got a gnu installation againJun 10 19:02
SomeH4x0r*toldJun 10 19:02
schestowitz_TR2sometimes it's a tricky thing, sometimes not complicatedJun 10 19:03
schestowitz_TR2like some linux-hostile piece of hardwareJun 10 19:03
mateyor user-hostile init systemJun 10 19:03
schestowitz_TR2some ubuntu users now moan about systemd-oomdJun 10 19:03
schestowitz_TR2systemd cannot do OOM rightJun 10 19:03
mateys/OOM/much of anything/Jun 10 19:04
schestowitz_TR2maybe in 5-10 years it'll work rightJun 10 19:04
mateymaybe in 5-10 years lennart will have taken up pig farmingJun 10 19:04
schestowitz_TR2when they transitioned eveyrthing to pulseaudio, for years I had to occasionally rwebootJun 10 19:04
schestowitz_TR2to get sound to work againJun 10 19:04
mateynot that theres anything wrong with thatJun 10 19:04
mateyhe will probably try to clone all the pigs so there are no differences between themJun 10 19:04
mateywhat is it with germans and uniformity anyway?Jun 10 19:05
schestowitz_TR2LP used to blame Ubuntu itselfJun 10 19:05
schestowitz_TR2saying it was improperly packaging pulseaudiooJun 10 19:05
schestowitz_TR2brbJun 10 19:05
mateythe proper way to package it is with cementJun 10 19:05
mateylike they did to the chernobyl plantJun 10 19:05
psydruidThe Adventures of Lennart Pig on the Pig FarmJun 10 19:05
XRevan86schestowitz: Smells like that rtkit bug that causes it to revoke rtprio on suspend.Jun 10 19:06
techrights-newsGet popcorn https://www.maketecheasier.com/microsoft-bug-unsupported-pcs-upgrade-to-windows-11/Jun 10 19:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Microsoft Bug Allows Unsupported PCs to Upgrade to Windows 11 - Make Tech EasierJun 10 19:06
mateypsydruid: im going with a conservative (read: lazy) approach to this project for nowJun 10 19:06
mateyim creating a series of scripts that will simply transform an existing installationJun 10 19:06
mateyi will consider making them into something that converts the live iso as wellJun 10 19:06
XRevan86For me it mysteriously disappeared after I updated to Linux 5.16+. But other people confirm it still exists on other machines.Jun 10 19:07
mateybut this is less effort, plus it targets existing installsJun 10 19:07
psydruidmatey, I'm sure you'll manageJun 10 19:07
mateyoh this is the easy wayJun 10 19:07
mateyi could do worseJun 10 19:07
psydruidI wish I had that much interest in gnu/linux left, but I don'tJun 10 19:07
mateyneither do iJun 10 19:08
psydruidI'm just a userJun 10 19:08
mateyyeah rightJun 10 19:08
mateymaybe thats true on the gnu/linux sideJun 10 19:08
XRevan86"Smells like" <- But not necessarily it, as PulseAudio doesn't absolutely need priority/rtprio to function.Jun 10 19:08
mateydid we ever figure out exactly why it creates noise and stuttering?Jun 10 19:10
mateyis there a definitive reason for thatJun 10 19:10
XRevan86Probably something else, I should stop assuming every uptimey sound bug is rtkit.Jun 10 19:10
XRevan86matey: That's underruns/overruns, there's no general but specific umbrella explanation for why they happen.Jun 10 19:12
MinceRthe explanation is that it was designed by lennart poetteringJun 10 19:13
mateylolJun 10 19:13
mateyworks for meJun 10 19:13
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/find-a-man   https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/165332644120220523after.pngJun 10 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Find a ManJun 10 19:29
techrights-newsCelebrating Eighteen | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/tux-machines-cakes/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/06/10/tux-machines-cakes/Jun 10 19:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Celebrating Eighteen | TechrightsJun 10 19:34
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AdmFubarhttps://www.pogowasright.org/met-police-profiling-children-on-a-large-scale-documents-show/Jun 10 19:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pogowasright.org | Met police profiling children ‘on a large scale’, documents showJun 10 19:56
AdmFubarhttps://www.propublica.org/article/chicago-housing-abla-fire-soccer-cha#1349316Jun 10 19:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.propublica.org | Chicago Promised This Land for Housing. It’s Going to Be a Chicago Fire Practice Facility Instead. — ProPublicaJun 10 19:59
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AdmFubarwriting on the wall?  https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-stop-using-non-competition-clauses-salary-transparency-corporate-culture-2022-6Jun 10 20:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Microsoft Won't Ban Most Staff From Seeking Jobs at Big Tech RivalsJun 10 20:17
AdmFubarhttps://techxplore.com/news/2022-06-foods-shoppers-sue-amazon-free.htmlJun 10 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techxplore.com | Whole Foods shoppers sue Amazon following end of free delivery for Prime membersJun 10 20:20
techrights-newsPhotos: Tux Machines at 18 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165851Jun 10 20:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Photos: Tux Machines at 18 | Tux MachinesJun 10 20:22
AdmFubaraaawwww techrightrights is now old enough to legally  buy an assault weapon in the us!Jun 10 20:23
techrights-newsKills becomes "Sunsets" http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165850#comment-33937Jun 10 20:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Microsoft Attacking Free Software Again (ro Promote Its Proprietary Stuff Which Spies) | Tux MachinesJun 10 20:26
techrights-newsUbuntu problems, Linux on iPad, System76 in Europe - Linux and open source news - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=39PylALvQ3U ䷉ Source: Video | Invidious | MultimediaJun 10 20:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Ubuntu problems, Linux on iPad, System76 in Europe - Linux and open source news - InvidiousJun 10 20:30
techrights-newssystemd is not "Ubuntu" https://yewtu.be/watch?v=39PylALvQ3UJun 10 20:30
DaemonFCschestowitz_TR2, I've got one better.Jun 10 20:31
DaemonFCWHen they switched to "glitch-free" pulseaudio is when that sound card I had started glitching.Jun 10 20:31
techrights-newsReview: openSUSE Leap 15.4 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165852Jun 10 20:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: openSUSE Leap 15.4 | Tux MachinesJun 10 20:32
techrights-newsAs we’ve just noted, based on the latest puff piece from the EPO’s very own Web site, António Campinos and the EPO at large are in the pockets of lobbyists and special interests of the world’s largest corporations http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/epo-monopolisers/Jun 10 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] Working for Monopolisers | TechrightsJun 10 20:33
techrights-newsAntónio Campinos (Monopoly Tony) has no legitimate, factual, and authentic arguments to make; like politicians who start wars and lie to their people, Monopoly Tony is nowadays resorting to buzzwords and greenwashing http://techrights.org/2022/06/10/ip5-not-green-or-sustainable/Jun 10 20:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Monopolies Are Neither Green Nor Sustainable | TechrightsJun 10 20:33
DaemonFCNon-compete clauses are routinely abused, especially against lower income workers.Jun 10 20:37
DaemonFCThat way if you take a job at Jimmy John's sandwich shop, you're forbidden from taking a job at another restaurant within a year of quitting, so they can keep you at minimum wage even if something slightly better opens up elsewhere.Jun 10 20:38
DaemonFCThey were enforcing it and it became an issue that the Illinois Attorney General opened an investigation into, so they stopped doing it in Illinois.Jun 10 20:39
DaemonFCThe only reason most of these end up in a contract you sign to work somewhere is to depress wages.Jun 10 20:39
DaemonFCA guy making sandwiches doesn't know any trade secrets or inside information about the company.Jun 10 20:39
DaemonFCThe rent in many cities is going up 15 or even 20% YoY.Jun 10 20:40
DaemonFCLocally, they're up about 5% or so.Jun 10 20:40
DaemonFCI expect the landlord to hit us with another increase, but we're not getting it as badly as they are in some places.Jun 10 20:40
DaemonFCOne reason it's going up like crazy in certain places that were cheap as dirt to live in before is because work from home is getting more common and when you can just live anywhere, why would you pay to live in California anymore?Jun 10 20:41
DaemonFCYou'll probably like it better in Austin, Texas, or Nashville, Tennessee.Jun 10 20:41
DaemonFCThey recently recalled the prosecutor of San Francisco County because he wouldn't pursue charges against any black criminals, and once word caught on, they started having train robberies every day.Jun 10 20:42
DaemonFCPeople walking into Walgreens and tossing the entire shelf into bags and walking out.Jun 10 20:42
DaemonFCBecause even if they police come, the prosecutor won't do anything to you because of wokeism.Jun 10 20:42
DaemonFCSo why on Earth wouldn't you just take anything you wanted to?Jun 10 20:42
DaemonFCThe economy of California will probably collapse even before it does in other blue states.Jun 10 20:43
DaemonFCIllinois is a blue state, but it's still the midwest, so people aren't THAT insane, even here.Jun 10 20:44
DaemonFCThose companies that are down by half on the year that Jim Cramer was saying "Throw your money at that! You can't lose!". California.Jun 10 20:44
DaemonFCAlmost two million net losses of residents in the last 10 years? California.Jun 10 20:44
DaemonFCAnd that didn't even count the people moving during and after the Census because it asked where you lived on April 1, 2020.Jun 10 20:45
DaemonFCAnd when you're getting the hell out a few months later, California still gets the numbers this time.Jun 10 20:45
DaemonFCSo I mean, it's worse. It's worse than what the Census showed. If the Census asked even where they lived on September 1st 2020, they'd have lost another seat in Congress.Jun 10 20:45
DaemonFCNew York too.Jun 10 20:46
DaemonFCThe whole thing is leading into a 2032-2042 Republican Majority in Congress, and probably favoring them in the White House too.Jun 10 20:46
DaemonFCBecause people say they're progressive, but then they get a look at the 14 pages of government taxing their home and the 60 cent a gallon Democrat tax hike to run the car.Jun 10 20:47
DaemonFCAll of a sudden, not so much.Jun 10 20:47
DaemonFCschestowitz_TR2, We even have a unit of government where I live that "sprays for mosquitoes", except it doesn't.Jun 10 20:48
DaemonFCIt taxes us, and then it doesn't spray.Jun 10 20:48
DaemonFCThe Lake County Democrats saw that the mosquito district has over $4.7 million dollars in the bank and is moving to abolish the district and take over "mosquito spraying" that they aren't even doing, so they can raid the bank account and keep taxing for not spraying the mosquitoes.Jun 10 20:49
DaemonFCLilo and Stitch accidentally accomplished with comedy what's going on here in Illinois.Jun 10 20:50
DaemonFCPart of the plot of the movie was that the aliens weren't blowing up Earth because it was a refuge for mosquitoes.Jun 10 20:51
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psydroid2Snaps are UbuntuJun 10 21:09
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/forewordJun 10 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - ForewordJun 10 21:10
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DaemonFCSnaps are the universal next generation Web 3.0 Microsoft-approved package for the future of Linux, also known as Ubuntu on WSL.Jun 10 21:36
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psydruidIn the name of matlock, amenJun 10 23:04
*matey (~matey@xwtec8cieagwc.irc) has joined #techrightsJun 10 23:31
mateyso this is funJun 10 23:31
mateyive had gnu/cloaca on this piece of shit for a few hours and im ready to literally chuck it over the fucking balconyJun 10 23:32
mateyseriously, this laptop has been condemnedJun 10 23:32
mateyi dont even care that i can put openbsd on it againJun 10 23:32
mateyi demand a fucking sacrificeJun 10 23:32
mateygranted this relatively unfair and what im trying to do is unorthodox at bestJun 10 23:33
mateybut i want my pound of siliconJun 10 23:33
mateyWHY THE FUCK DOES SHUTDOWN -R NOT FUCKING WORKJun 10 23:33
SomeH4x0rhiJun 10 23:33
mateyhiJun 10 23:33
mateythis machine literally cannot rebootJun 10 23:34
mateyits a special little snowflakeJun 10 23:34
mateyi have a balconyJun 10 23:34
mateyits going to to take a big fucking diveJun 10 23:34
mateynow you may think "hey man, thats crazy"Jun 10 23:34
matey"you were happy with openbsd on it"Jun 10 23:34
matey"just put it back!"Jun 10 23:34
mateynope, i put gnu/linux on it again and now its taintedJun 10 23:35
mateyits too stupid to justify its existenceJun 10 23:35
mateyfor the want of a real osJun 10 23:35
matey/me grins evillyJun 10 23:35
mateyi should put alpine on itJun 10 23:35
mateybut NOBDOY wants thatJun 10 23:35
mateynot me, not anyone hereJun 10 23:36
mateywars have started over lessJun 10 23:36
techrights-news6 Practical Reasons for Learning Linux • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165853Jun 10 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 6 Practical Reasons for Learning Linux | Tux MachinesJun 10 23:36
mateybetter a laptop gets destroyed than a war for nothingJun 10 23:36
techrights-newsGoogle #Android Leftovers • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165854Jun 10 23:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux MachinesJun 10 23:36
matey(fwiw i think alpine would LIKELY be less bullshit than this)Jun 10 23:36
matey(im not saying that to be nice, im saying it because its the fucking truth)Jun 10 23:37
mateytheres a certain poetry to thisJun 10 23:37
mateyi gave a nicer laptop than this away to refractaJun 10 23:37
mateyyes and no-- i mean it was a toshibaJun 10 23:38
mateytoshiba is japanese for "im sorry"Jun 10 23:38
mateybut it had all those coresJun 10 23:38
mateythis is an i3Jun 10 23:38
mateyits BEGGING me for deathJun 10 23:38
matey"please kill me"Jun 10 23:38
mateyim really temptedJun 10 23:39
mateyif fucking around with penguinshit costs me a whole laptopJun 10 23:39
mateyim not exactly rolling in these thingsJun 10 23:39
mateyi swear ill never touch the shit againJun 10 23:39
mateythis was supposed to be an experimentJun 10 23:40
mateytell that to marie curie, eh?Jun 10 23:40
matey"ill just fuck around with this glowing shit, its no big deal, OOH, ITS PRETTY!"Jun 10 23:40
mateyso really, chucking this fucker off the balcony (theres no one around) would be poeticJun 10 23:41
mateyand a lifelong reminder DONT FUCK WITH PENGUINSHITJun 10 23:41
mateybecause its shitJun 10 23:41
mateybutJun 10 23:41
mateymaybe we can play a little but longer before it goes for its fucking swan diveJun 10 23:42
mateyive removed the battery so when its being a shit i can pull the power Jun 10 23:42
AdmFubarwhat does your policy cover? also what's in your wallet? does it leave a ring shape?   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/10/geico-woman-std-car-insurance-company-must-payJun 10 23:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Insurers Geico ordered to pay woman who caught STD having sex in car $5.2m | Missouri | The GuardianJun 10 23:42
mateyeven im not silly enough to throw fucking li-ons aroundJun 10 23:43
mateythe thing im trying to is SO. FUCKING. SIMPLE.Jun 10 23:43
mateyits ludicriousJun 10 23:43
mateyand before we go any further, psydroid was rightJun 10 23:44
mateythis is bullshit!Jun 10 23:44
mateyi went to mountains of trouble to get away from exactly thisJun 10 23:44
mateyits stupidJun 10 23:45
techrights-newsPlex’s New Linux Apps Arrive on Flathub • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165855Jun 10 23:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Plex’s New Linux Apps Arrive on Flathub | Tux MachinesJun 10 23:46
mateyanyway im too curious to give up yetJun 10 23:46
mateyi could just (physically) throttle the thing if it gets too ridiculousJun 10 23:46
mateyworst ill do is destroy a laptop or trip a circuit breakerJun 10 23:47
techrights-newsChrome is proprietary software. It is not safe to use. https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2022/06/10/google-releases-security-updates-chromeJun 10 23:48
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cisa.gov | Google Releases Security Updates for Chrome | CISAJun 10 23:48
mateythis is the kind of shit im dealing with atm https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/429481/shutdown-r-works-but-reboot-does-notJun 10 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | centos - "shutdown -r" works but "reboot" does not - Unix & Linux Stack ExchangeJun 10 23:50
mateywhat the serious fuckJun 10 23:50
techrights-newsToday’s #HowTos | #UNIX • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165856Jun 10 23:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux MachinesJun 10 23:50
mateyBASIC SHITJun 10 23:50
mateysincerely hoping to learn something, but the whole piece of shit is held together with duct tape and chewing gumJun 10 23:51
techrights-news"Dennis is a Python command line utility (and library) for working with localization." https://bluesock.org/~willkg/blog/dev/dennis_1_0_0.htmlJun 10 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bluesock.org | Dennis v1.0.0 released! Retrospective! Handing it off! | Will's BlogJun 10 23:56
techrights-newsWhat does this have to do with Firefox, Mozilla? https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/tony-nominated-arnulfo-maldonado-shares-pride-and-joy-from-his-corner-of-the-internet/Jun 10 23:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Tony-nominated Arnulfo Maldonado Shares Pride and Joy From His Corner of the InternetJun 10 23:56
mateythis is getting INCREDIBLY stupidJun 10 23:57
mateyim hacking the fuck out of a computer I HAVE ROOT ON Jun 10 23:57
mateyTO REBOOT Jun 10 23:58
mateywhat the fuck arse ballsJun 10 23:58
techrights-newsEphemeron Tables aka JavaScript WeakMaps and How They Work https://blog.mozilla.org/sfink/2022/06/09/ephemeron-tables-aka-javascript-weakmaps/Jun 10 23:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.mozilla.org | Ephemeron Tables aka JavaScript WeakMaps and How They Work | sfink @ MozillaJun 10 23:58
techrights-newsExTiX Deepin 22.6 Live based on Deepin 20.6 (latest) with Refracta Snapshot and kernel 5.18.1-amd64-exton :: Build 220610 • Tux Machines ⇨ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/165857Jun 10 23:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | ExTiX Deepin 22.6 Live based on Deepin 20.6 (latest) with Refracta Snapshot and kernel 5.18.1-amd64-exton :: Build 220610 | Tux MachinesJun 10 23:59

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