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| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: RuTracker blocks Americans now. | Feb 14 00:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I picked a VPN server in Hungary to keep using it. | Feb 14 00:18 |
| schestowitz | anyone here in IRC using gemini? | Feb 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | we hope this year there will be a million users worldwide | Feb 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | techrights will soon be available with it as 'first-class' citizen | Feb 14 00:41 |
| schestowitz | we just need to convert loads of pages | Feb 14 00:42 |
| MinceR | i used 2 gemini clients to view a TR article | Feb 14 00:43 |
| MinceR | both worked fine | Feb 14 00:43 |
| schestowitz | Days ago we launched gemini.techrights.org and it is starting to get noticed. We plan to keep it in sync with www and it contains many articles. It would be nice to have it visible in feeds. Anything that can help us spread the word and increase adoption of gemini in general. | Feb 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did you try a GUI one? | Feb 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | yes | Feb 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | i tried amfora (TUI) and kristall (GUI) | Feb 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | I guess you don't use "deadian" | Feb 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | it has nothing in the repos | Feb 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | not even kristall | Feb 14 00:45 |
| MinceR | voidlinux has both of these | Feb 14 00:45 |
| schestowitz | debian, to use a bit of a joke snubs gemini coz of google money ;-) | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | could make the same joke re mozilla removal of gopher support | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | I think Google is the biggest sponsor of both | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | but it's a joke | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | I do not SERIOUSLY think that's the reason for all tis | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | amfora was not available for Debian | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | it's odd | Feb 14 00:51 |
| schestowitz | I had to get precompiled and self-contained binary | Feb 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz | for a project with over 30,000 packages in the repo | Feb 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz | and not a single gemini browser, not even a cli client | Feb 14 00:52 |
| schestowitz | odd | Feb 14 00:52 |
| techrights-bot | #Mageia 8 Promises Better Support for AMD and NVIDIA Systems โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147634 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Mageia 8 Promises Better Support for AMD and NVIDIA Systems | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:53 | |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147633 โขโโข #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 00:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:53 | |
| techrights-bot | Stable Kernels: 5.10.16, 5.4.98, and 4.19.176 โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147632 โขโโข #Kernel #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stable Kernels: 5.10.16, 5.4.98, and 4.19.176 | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot | 9 Best #FreeSW Key Value Stores for #BigData โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147631 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 00:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 9 Best Free and Open Source Key Value Stores for Big Data | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:54 | |
| techrights-bot | 5 reasons why I love coding on GNU/Linux โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147630 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming | Feb 14 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | 5 reasons why I love coding on Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:55 | |
| techrights-bot | How #freeSW provides students with real-world experience โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147629 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 00:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How open source provides students with real-world experience | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:55 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE Frameworks 5.79.0 โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147628 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #qt | Feb 14 00:56 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Frameworks 5.79.0 | Tux Machines | Feb 14 00:56 | |
| techrights-bot | Sputnik V Vaccine: NPR's Moscow Correspondent Rolls Up His Sleeve https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/02/13/967336250/putin-hasnt-been-vaccinated-with-sputnik-v-yet-but-our-correspondent-got-the-sho #NPR repeatedly being bribed by #billgates to cover up for him, mocking his critics | Feb 14 01:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Sputnik V Vaccine: NPR's Moscow Correspondent Rolls Up His Sleeve : Goats and Soda : NPR | Feb 14 01:05 | |
| techrights-bot | Architecture https://i.redd.it/3ttfp5vb4yd61.jpg | Feb 14 01:05 |
| techrights-bot | Following the example of corrupt #EPO , which distorted #patent #law and breaks all the founding principles of #patents in order to pocket and steal money https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d4666e89-d6c9-4dfb-b789-64219232d4a3 | Feb 14 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Polish Patent Office changes its policy on patentability of software, biotech and pharma - Lexology | Feb 14 01:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Complete and utter puff piece, not journalism https://www.worldipreview.com/news/epo-and-euipo-add-technical-university-of-munich-to-trainee-programme-21033 | Feb 14 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldipreview.com | EPO and EUIPO add Technical University of Munich to trainee programme | Feb 14 01:06 | |
| techrights-bot | Guidelines that are unlawful, but corrupt management gets away with it because it is above the law https://www.cms-lawnow.com/ealerts/2021/02/new-epo-guidelines-now-published-regarding-amending-the-description-whats-all-the-fuss-about?cc_lang=en | Feb 14 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cms-lawnow.com | New EPO Guidelines now published regarding amending the description: whatโs all the fuss about? | Feb 14 01:06 | |
| techrights-bot | New video: How to Make a Custom #GNU #Linux Desktop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hse8yN6CDoI | Feb 14 01:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-- YouTube | Feb 14 01:06 | |
| techrights-bot | 021/02/13/gsoc-conflict-of-interest/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/13/#latest | Feb 14 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Feb 14 01:08 | |
| techrights-bot | Nicolas Dandrimont, Pauline (or Maria) Climent-Pommeret & Debian, Outreachy, GSoC Conflict of Interest Policy Scandals โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/gsoc-conflict-of-interest/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Feb 14 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Nicolas Dandrimont, Pauline (or Maria) Climent-Pommeret & Debian, Outreachy, GSoC Conflict of Interest Policy Scandals | Techrights | Feb 14 01:10 | |
| techrights-bot | Wine 6.2 Released with Mono 6.0.0 & NTDLL debugger APIs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147608#comment-28265 | Feb 14 01:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Wine 6.2 Released | Tux Machines | Feb 14 01:10 | |
| techrights-bot | "IBM and O'Reilly conducted a survey that indicated that IT pros favor using open source CLOWN technologies over proprietary solutions." IBM and O'Reilly conducted a survey that indicated that IT pros favor using open source cloud technologies over proprietary solutions. | Feb 14 01:11 |
| techrights-bot | "IBM and O'Reilly conducted a survey that indicated that IT pros favor using open source CLOWN technologies over proprietary solutions." https://www.itprotoday.com/cloud-computing/survey-open-source-cloud-technologies-fit-devs-glove | Feb 14 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.itprotoday.com | Survey: Open Source Cloud Technologies Fit Devs Like a Glove | IT Pro | Feb 14 01:12 | |
| techrights-bot | #KDE #Plasma 5.21 - New look, new menu, and Wayland 100% usable http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147621#comment-28266 #gnu #linux | Feb 14 01:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Plasma 5.21 approaches! | Tux Machines | Feb 14 01:12 | |
| techrights-bot | [ #Debian ] #bullseye froze softly โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147636 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | [Debian] bullseye froze softly | Tux Machines | Feb 14 01:15 | |
| techrights-bot | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147635 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 01:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 14 01:15 | |
| MinceR | https://insighthungary.444.hu/2021/01/26/member-of-hungarian-punk-band-beaten-songs-censored-after-performance-at-government-financed-concert | Feb 14 01:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insighthungary.444.hu | Member of Hungarian punk band beaten, songs censored after performance at government-financed concert - InsightHungary | Feb 14 01:26 | |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโ โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโ โโ โ avg(k/sec) 16.41 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 3.25โ swarm size (avg): 122.01 โฒ | Feb 14 01:36 |
| techrights-bot | "The Fellowship has recently blogged about FSFE President Matthias Kirschner misusing screengrabs from video calls with interns." http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/gsoc-conflict-of-interest/ gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2021/02/13/gsoc-conflict-of-interest/ | Feb 14 01:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/12/world/europe/hungary-coronavirus-vaccination-sputnik.html | Feb 14 01:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | With the Economy on the Ropes, Hungary Goes All In on Mass Vaccination - The New York Times | Feb 14 01:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR is feeling very patriotic and will get his vaccination as soon as Orban is done with the chicken wire border "wall". | Feb 14 01:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How the hell did the Hungarian Socialist Party go from the majority to barely any seats at all? | Feb 14 01:59 |
| MinceR | i don't know when or if i'll get vaccinated, or even in which country | Feb 14 01:59 |
| MinceR | considering that the nazis are getting more and more desperate to force the untested russian and chinese shit on people who don't want them | Feb 14 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd get one of the mRNA ones probably. | Feb 14 02:00 |
| MinceR | well, you can | Feb 14 02:00 |
| MinceR | you live in a country where there are at least some state functions that work openly and correctly | Feb 14 02:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'm more skeptical of the adenovirus ones. | Feb 14 02:00 |
| MinceR | 14 025914 < DaemonFC[m]> How the hell did the Hungarian Socialist Party go from the majority to barely any seats at all? | Feb 14 02:00 |
| MinceR | in 2010 they went from part of a majority coalition to minority | Feb 14 02:01 |
| MinceR | then the nazis changed the election rules | Feb 14 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't seem as effective, they seem like they particularly don't work very well against some of the mutant strains, and there's the danger that your immune system learns to attack the carrier virus and not the Coronavirus spikes. | Feb 14 02:01 |
| schestowitz | I work from home | Feb 14 02:01 |
| MinceR | and DK split off | Feb 14 02:01 |
| schestowitz | I might not need to bother with any of them unless more is known | Feb 14 02:01 |
| XRevan86 | I wonder if adenovirus immunity wears off eventually | Feb 14 02:01 |
| schestowitz | *until | Feb 14 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ahh, there was something similar in Indiana. | Feb 14 02:01 |
| XRevan86 | or if immunity against vaccines is forever %) | Feb 14 02:01 |
| MinceR | iirc they weren't a majority on their own to begin with | Feb 14 02:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats were in the majority until the Republicans took a slim lead, changed the election laws, rewrote the districts, and they get 67% of the seats with 51% of the vote ever since. | Feb 14 02:02 |
| schestowitz | people die, now more die more | Feb 14 02:02 |
| schestowitz | esp. the frail | Feb 14 02:02 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: you keep bringing up non-tech issues here | Feb 14 02:02 |
| XRevan86 | > As opposed to lentiviruses, adenoviral DNA does not integrate into the genome and is not replicated during cell division. | Feb 14 02:02 |
| MinceR | wikipedia says they had the most seats before 2010 but they didn't have 50% on their own | Feb 14 02:03 |
| schestowitz | and many of us (inc. you) aren't expert in this thing | Feb 14 02:03 |
| XRevan86 | I heard people use that as FUD, but no, it's not in the genome. | Feb 14 02:03 |
| schestowitz | let's talk about tech | Feb 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | the nazi election system lets fideath get over 2/3 of the parliament seats by getting something like 45% of the votes | Feb 14 02:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was playing around with gerrymandering software. | Feb 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | and yes, they gerrymandered | Feb 14 02:03 |
| MinceR | also | Feb 14 02:03 |
| schestowitz | sometimes the options are themselves bad | Feb 14 02:03 |
| schestowitz | elections are still better than none at all | Feb 14 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | > Any of these few viral vectors can cause the body to develop an immune response if the vector is seen as a foreign invader. Once used, the viral vector cannot be effectively used in the patient again because it will be recognized by the body. | Feb 14 02:04 |
| MinceR | living on a planet infested with humans is itself bad | Feb 14 02:04 |
| XRevan86 | all from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_vector | Feb 14 02:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Viral vector - Wikipedia | Feb 14 02:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy says some slight headaches today and chills while he was at work. Arm is still sore. | Feb 14 02:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing too bad though. | Feb 14 02:04 |
| schestowitz | first one | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | second one of the worse | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | *is | Feb 14 02:05 |
| MinceR | i don't get to be in charge of my own life | Feb 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's the same dosage. | Feb 14 02:05 |
| MinceR | i hope i can die quickly and painlessly | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough about those premature products | Feb 14 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your body recognizes it the second time. | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | we don't even know much about them yet | Feb 14 02:05 |
| MinceR | it's the most one as poor as i am can hope in this hell on earth | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | you drove 8 hours, both of you at risk of car accident, to be part of a monopoly's test | Feb 14 02:05 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe at an old age | Feb 14 02:06 |
| schestowitz | quickly and painlessly is the best way to go, question is at what stage | Feb 14 02:06 |
| MinceR | yeah, there are probably decades of intense suffering left for me | Feb 14 02:06 |
| schestowitz | some people in their 70s don't have back and joint aches | Feb 14 02:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: With the uncontrolled spread going on, it seemed like the least bad option. | Feb 14 02:06 |
| MinceR | maybe i'll get lucky and an asteroid or gamma ray burst wipes us out | Feb 14 02:06 |
| schestowitz | one day | Feb 14 02:06 |
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| schestowitz | but a long time from now | Feb 14 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | I'd really rather get an mRNA vaccine | Feb 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No appointments available since NBC Chicago picked it up. | Feb 14 02:07 |
| XRevan86 | too bad it's not an option | Feb 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's way too soon to say whether the vaccinations are having an effect on the spread of if we're just slowing down on the way to another surge that's even worse than the last one, | Feb 14 02:07 |
| schestowitz | we can all agree the status quo is bust | Feb 14 02:07 |
| schestowitz | unemployment isn't a covid thing | Feb 14 02:07 |
| schestowitz | it predates this | Feb 14 02:07 |
| schestowitz | "Gig" "economy" | Feb 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It does, but few cared until now. | Feb 14 02:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now it's "Not their fault.". | Feb 14 02:08 |
| XRevan86 | International vaccines are effectively banned here | Feb 14 02:08 |
| schestowitz | with actual labour "participation" rate of about 50% in the US | Feb 14 02:08 |
| schestowitz | and wages stagnating for how long? 30 years? | Feb 14 02:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Before it was "They should go into debt for college and still be guaranteed nothing.". | Feb 14 02:08 |
| schestowitz | hi, dyfet | Feb 14 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or "They're just not looking for jobs.". | Feb 14 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom's favorite, even now. | Feb 14 02:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told her which jobs since half the restaurants in Indiana have failed already. | Feb 14 02:08 |
| schestowitz | mjg59: I mention you along the way in an article about freesw jobs | Feb 14 02:09 |
| schestowitz | just so that I get the facts right, you quit, right? | Feb 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All of the movie theaters are failing. | Feb 14 02:09 |
| MinceR | "allegedly" :> | Feb 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Might not have been good jobs, but now it's absolute unemployment. | Feb 14 02:09 |
| MinceR | due to this plague i can't even leave this shithole country | Feb 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Haha, he said shithole country. | Feb 14 02:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just like The Donald. | Feb 14 02:10 |
| schestowitz | The Viktor | Feb 14 02:10 |
| MinceR | it's more of a shithole than uhmerica though | Feb 14 02:10 |
| MinceR | maybe not as much of a shithole as russia yet | Feb 14 02:10 |
| schestowitz | I'm sort of happy to be 'stuck' here | Feb 14 02:10 |
| schestowitz | brexit makes it worse, but... | Feb 14 02:10 |
| dyfet | hi schestowitz, trying irc from pidgin... | Feb 14 02:10 |
| schestowitz | all those lockdowns make my life choices more like the 'norm' | Feb 14 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Me too. | Feb 14 02:10 |
| XRevan86 | So the options here are the adenovirus vaccine Sputnik-V, the peptide vaccine EpiVacCorona and the dead virus Chumakov centre CoviVac vaccine | Feb 14 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've always avoided people, given the option. | Feb 14 02:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody takes you seriously in jeans and a t-shirt. | Feb 14 02:11 |
| schestowitz | real people do | Feb 14 02:11 |
| schestowitz | fake ones don't | Feb 14 02:11 |
| XRevan86 | apparently the latter is not available for the general population because it's difficult to produce | Feb 14 02:11 |
| schestowitz | if someone judges you by the dress, they're not worth the time | Feb 14 02:11 |
| MinceR | indeed | Feb 14 02:12 |
| MinceR | also, the tie that comes with the suit restricts blood circulation to the brain | Feb 14 02:12 |
| MinceR | (along with the necessary shirt setting) | Feb 14 02:12 |
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| MinceR | this, of course, doesn't affect the people who insist on making other people wear them | Feb 14 02:13 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #CounterPunch โ Biopolitical Prognosis for Homo Sapiens ย Multiverse https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/12/biopolitical-prognosis-for-homo-sapiens-multiverse/ | Feb 14 02:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Biopolitical Prognosis for Homo Sapiens ย Multiverse - CounterPunch.org | Feb 14 02:13 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: they're not worth working for | Feb 14 02:13 |
| schestowitz | I don't suggest working naked | Feb 14 02:13 |
| schestowitz | that would be wrong from a sanitary pov | Feb 14 02:14 |
| schestowitz | (at the least) | Feb 14 02:14 |
| MinceR | yeah, but i don't have the necessary equipment to get money without working :> | Feb 14 02:14 |
| schestowitz | it's -2 here at the moment, heating has been off all winter, so I mostly wear hoodies these days | Feb 14 02:14 |
| MinceR | it's -4.2 here | Feb 14 02:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: if you work from home now, that problem is partly tackled? | Feb 14 02:15 |
| MinceR | not really | Feb 14 02:15 |
| MinceR | and i don't have a job anymore | Feb 14 02:15 |
| MinceR | and i don't miss the shitty job i had last year | Feb 14 02:15 |
| MinceR | problem is, it doesn't seem possible to get a non-bullshit job in this industry | Feb 14 02:16 |
| schestowitz | true | Feb 14 02:16 |
| schestowitz | I am writing a post about my job now | Feb 14 02:16 |
| schestowitz | for techrights that is... the post | Feb 14 02:16 |
| dyfet | Or to find work that doesn't cause social harm... | Feb 14 02:16 |
| schestowitz | we need to make more freesw jobs | Feb 14 02:17 |
| schestowitz | pay isn't great, but... | Feb 14 02:17 |
| schestowitz | I still get the same salary I was getting 10 years ago | Feb 14 02:17 |
| schestowitz | now we don't have gym fees, travel expenses etc. | Feb 14 02:17 |
| schestowitz | shopping of other items vastly reduced too, except food | Feb 14 02:18 |
| schestowitz | rianne hunts for discounted foods anyway, sometimes quarter price or less | Feb 14 02:18 |
| MinceR | we need to resurrect freesw first | Feb 14 02:18 |
| MinceR | without corporate parasites | Feb 14 02:18 |
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| dyfet | Yes | Feb 14 02:18 |
| schestowitz | poor DaemonFC[m], his sis in law, who grew up in "worse than ghetto", carries on pretending to be a princess and would not shop in WaltonMart because "ghetto people" | Feb 14 02:19 |
| schestowitz | people love to self-harm | Feb 14 02:19 |
| schestowitz | to pretend to have climbed some mythical social/career ladder | Feb 14 02:19 |
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| schestowitz | and sometimes the climbers perish early, like Steve Jobs did | Feb 14 02:19 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: wayland is coming | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | I read about it earlier wrt kde | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | it'll break basic stuff like x forwarding | Feb 14 02:20 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | after decades | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | we need to keep Xorg going | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | [01:12] <techrights-bot> #KDE #Plasma 5.21 - New look, new menu, and Wayland 100% usable http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147621#comment-28266 #gnu #linux | Feb 14 02:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | This week in KDE: Plasma 5.21 approaches! | Tux Machines | Feb 14 02:20 | |
| schestowitz | no benefits | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | maybe less RAM usage | Feb 14 02:20 |
| schestowitz | not that RAM is cheap and abundant | Feb 14 02:20 |
| dyfet | I don't think I have any video hardware that works correctly with wayland | Feb 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | seems to me like an ill-advised special interest | Feb 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | first dbus, systemd, PA... | Feb 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | obviously, working correctly is not "secure" | Feb 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | just ask the proprietarydesktop folks | Feb 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | Firefox apparently only works with PA now | Feb 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: IBM never cared about security | Feb 14 02:21 |
| dyfet | I mean that doesn't crash or break ;) | Feb 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | neither did microshit | Feb 14 02:21 |
| schestowitz | if it did, it wouldn't work for DoD->NSA | Feb 14 02:21 |
| MinceR | doesn't stop their marketroids from mouthing off about it 24/7 | Feb 14 02:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2014/01/26/death-knell-by-nsa/ | Feb 14 02:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IBM Shows That Collaborations With the NSA Are a Companyโs Death Knell | Techrights | Feb 14 02:22 | |
| MinceR | even for other scammer corporations, DRM is now "security" | Feb 14 02:22 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: UEFI secure mjg59 | Feb 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 14 02:22 |
| schestowitz | secured by Microsoft | Feb 14 02:22 |
| MinceR | yeah, vendor lock-in is also "security" | Feb 14 02:22 |
| schestowitz | "you can't boot that! We don't approve this distro" | Feb 14 02:23 |
| dyfet | obscurity is now called "security" | Feb 14 02:23 |
| schestowitz | or cover-up | Feb 14 02:23 |
| schestowitz | like, don't mention we got cracked | Feb 14 02:23 |
| schestowitz | or there would be fines | Feb 14 02:23 |
| dyfet | Kill the messenger.... | Feb 14 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "(along with the necessary shirt "> Must be why they have those three shirts for $300 deals. | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | we need more leaking (of info) mechanisms | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: maybe submit mechanisms in gemini | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | I will look into it | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | there is POST-like support in that protocol | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | you can submit a URL or text with TLS | Feb 14 02:24 |
| dyfet | we need mechanisms not hard-wired to the intel community (washpost, nytimes drop boxes are...) | Feb 14 02:24 |
| schestowitz | yes | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | means deviating from what was marked by NSA | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | like Tor | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | all the common methods | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | You have to assume they either put moles there or bribed existing staffers to become moles | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | like sigi in wikileaks (iceland) | Feb 14 02:25 |
| schestowitz | so roll out your own | Feb 14 02:26 |
| schestowitz | I am going to consider making a dropbox over gemini | Feb 14 02:26 |
| schestowitz | but there are char limits | Feb 14 02:26 |
| schestowitz | and dropping a url to some random url isn't ideal | Feb 14 02:26 |
| dyfet | I do know they have such moles in the eff... | Feb 14 02:26 |
| schestowitz | *random address/sitre | Feb 14 02:26 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: the EFF is a lobbying firm now | Feb 14 02:27 |
| schestowitz | they even relocated accordingly | Feb 14 02:27 |
| dyfet | I already had found they are untrustworthy... | Feb 14 02:28 |
| schestowitz | we wrote some articles about it | Feb 14 02:28 |
| schestowitz | but maybe not enough, assuming you know names of compromised staffers | Feb 14 02:28 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social @ FreeNode: Saturday, February 13, 2021 | Feb 14 02:30 | |
| dyfet | There are still legal penalties for revealing undercover cia officers...and I don't have the friends Libby does ;). | Feb 14 02:30 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Saturday, February 13, 2021 | Feb 14 02:31 | |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ FreeNode: Saturday, February 13, 2021 | Feb 14 02:31 | |
| techrights-bot | *** ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ *** Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130221.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-130221.txt Read the log now... | Feb 14 02:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: Saturday, February 13, 2021 | Feb 14 02:31 | |
| schestowitz | dyfet: can I take that as a "I know person x in eff is connected to the Central Intel Agency"? | Feb 14 02:31 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: at least one needn't worry about "no-fly" lists anymore... | Feb 14 02:32 |
| schestowitz | I mean, who's flying? | Feb 14 02:32 |
| techrights-bot | *** ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ *** Yesterday's bulletin ready. http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2021-02-13.txt | Feb 14 02:32 |
| dyfet | I will also simply say I also do not go to defcon... | Feb 14 02:33 |
| schestowitz | definitely a con | Feb 14 02:33 |
| schestowitz | NSA talks | Feb 14 02:33 |
| schestowitz | after snowden they had to pretend for a year or two to be "angry" | Feb 14 02:34 |
| schestowitz | then it's business as usual" | Feb 14 02:34 |
| schestowitz | Snowden is "old news" now | Feb 14 02:34 |
| schestowitz | PRISM no longer exists | Feb 14 02:34 |
| schestowitz | or whatever newer programmes exist | Feb 14 02:34 |
| dyfet | I do not have new info on that, but yes, so much already has been buried... | Feb 14 02:36 |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโโ โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโ โโ โ avg(k/sec) 16.41 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 3.25โ swarm size (avg): 121.78 โฒ | Feb 14 02:36 |
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| dyfet | ipfs and gemini... techrights is rather interesting as tech too... | Feb 14 02:46 |
| techrights-bot | #FreeSoftware Makes Life Easier, Not Harder โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/making-life-easier-with-freesw/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Feb 14 02:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Makes Life Easier, Not Harder | Techrights | Feb 14 02:49 | |
| schestowitz | dyfet: thanks! | Feb 14 02:49 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: soon we'll broadcast, using a cronjob, the latest CIDs | Feb 14 02:49 |
| schestowitz | so that they get passed around and replicated across the woeld | Feb 14 02:49 |
| schestowitz | *Wordl | Feb 14 02:49 |
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| schestowitz | with all pf today's articles | Feb 14 02:49 |
| schestowitz | gnunet is not yet stable software | Feb 14 02:50 |
| schestowitz | but we intend to adopt that too at some stage | Feb 14 02:50 |
| dyfet | I know... | Feb 14 02:50 |
| schestowitz | let's pull the rug from under monopolists' feet | Feb 14 02:50 |
| schestowitz | should be amusing to see, to say the least | Feb 14 02:50 |
| schestowitz | they always tried to stay a step ahead on "crypto" and "blockchain" things | Feb 14 02:51 |
| schestowitz | and FUD about things like bitcoin is abundant in wall street media | Feb 14 02:51 |
| dyfet | or repurpose them...and takeover from within. Hmm...where have I seen that discussed recently in another context? ;) | Feb 14 02:52 |
| schestowitz | the log file for gemini for past 12 hours is almost 1mb in size | Feb 14 02:52 |
| schestowitz | we only announced it ~2 days ago | Feb 14 02:53 |
| dyfet | That is cool also. It says there is demand for exit ramps. | Feb 14 02:53 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: #cancelStallman | Feb 14 02:53 |
| schestowitz | "for the wimin" | Feb 14 02:53 |
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| schestowitz | dyfet: we not have a round robin cron job to keep gemini up to date with latest articles | Feb 14 02:54 |
| schestowitz | plus irc logs etc. | Feb 14 02:54 |
| schestowitz | I will test that in a minute | Feb 14 02:54 |
| schestowitz | a lot of our code and system-level stuff like cron job is fresh and barely tested | Feb 14 02:54 |
| dyfet | You should do an article on techrights tech | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | in one minute my node is ipfs is /supposed/ to be turned on on its own | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | turns out i needed to add a sleep command to space things out, otherwise it would not start | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | dyfet: we do that sometimes | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | we also have internal git | Feb 14 02:55 |
| dyfet | I probably had missed that, but that is good. | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | but the tools need to be generalised | Feb 14 02:55 |
| schestowitz | too much hard-coded into them | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | yes! it works :-) | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | finally | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | after 7 days of testing and failing | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | ipfs commands do not work well in conjuction | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | and I run ipfs 3 times every 60 seconds | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | to turn it on and off you need to call out external script | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | then add sleep 30 or similar in it | Feb 14 02:56 |
| schestowitz | otherwise it would oddly enough not obey the command | Feb 14 02:57 |
| schestowitz | took me ages to figure that conflict out | Feb 14 02:57 |
| schestowitz | raspi full backup done yesterday, will be replicated to several drives | Feb 14 02:57 |
| schestowitz | our logging of gemini is also ad hoc | Feb 14 02:58 |
| schestowitz | used iftop to make it work | Feb 14 02:58 |
| schestowitz | iftop -i wlan0 -P -t -L 1000 | grep -B 0 -A 1 :1965 | grep -v :1965 >> /home/gemini/log.txt | Feb 14 02:58 |
| schestowitz | we purge these later, they're used for testing purposes for now | Feb 14 02:58 |
| techrights-bot | Defense to Deliver Rebuttal on Day 4 of #Impeachment Trial After Dems Dub Trump 'Inciter-in-Chief' https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/12/watch-live-defense-deliver-rebuttal-day-4-impeachment-trial-after-dems-dub-trump | Feb 14 03:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | WATCH LIVE: Defense to Deliver Rebuttal on Day 4 of Impeachment Trial After Dems Dub Trump 'Inciter-in-Chief' | Common Dreams News | Feb 14 03:00 | |
| techrights-ipfs | IPFS local node stats TotalIn: 6.3 MB TotalOut: 1.5 MB | Feb 14 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Mr. Orban has few options for reviving the Hungarian economy, as he is opposed to handing out meaningful relief aid to citizens and businesses and appears to be betting big on getting the whole country vaccinated, with an eye on next yearโs elections." | Feb 14 03:01 |
| techrights-ipfs | New bulletin just generated and added to IPFS with CID: | Feb 14 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Too much in the chicken wire budger. | Feb 14 03:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *budget | Feb 14 03:01 |
| techrights-ipfs | QmcgJMK25sS8KvDP91WGCs8mnD3BshA4mPSR8uGCMM78po | Feb 14 03:01 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #CounterPunch โ Lying Lawyers and Butt-kissing Senators: The First Days of Trumpโs Second #Impeachment Trial https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/12/lying-lawyers-and-butt-kissing-senators-the-first-days-of-trumps-second-impeachment-trial/ | Feb 14 03:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Lying Lawyers and Butt-kissing Senators: The First Days of Trumpโs Second Impeachment Trial - CounterPunch.org | Feb 14 03:02 | |
| dyfet | That was depressing. | Feb 14 03:06 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #CounterPunch โ #Neoliberalism and Its Discontents https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/12/neoliberalism-and-its-discontents-2/ | Feb 14 03:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Neoliberalism and Its Discontents - CounterPunch.org | Feb 14 03:07 | |
| techrights-bot | "Let me suggest that Kingโs prescription remains as valid today as when he issued it more than half a century ago โ hence, my excuse for returning to it so soon after citing it in a previous TomDispatch. Sadly, however, neither the American people nor the American ruling class seem any more inclined to take that prescription seriously today than I was in 1967." https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/12/when-poisons- | Feb 14 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-When Poisons Curdle: Beyond Donald Trump - CounterPunch.org | Feb 14 03:12 | |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #TruthOut #boeing #impunity #corporateCrimes โ Ralph Nader: Biden Must Hold Boeing Accountable for Deaths Due to Faulty Planes https://truthout.org/video/ralph-nader-biden-must-hold-boeing-accountable-for-deaths-due-to-faulty-planes/ | Feb 14 03:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Ralph Nader: Biden Must Hold Boeing Accountable for Deaths Due to Faulty Planes | Feb 14 03:12 | |
| dyfet | Moral courage is not Biden's thing... | Feb 14 03:14 |
| schestowitz | it also take courage to oppress the public | Feb 14 03:15 |
| schestowitz | or to protect the minority | Feb 14 03:16 |
| schestowitz | *not racial) | Feb 14 03:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "A Hungarian punk band says video of a live performance it gave as part of a government program to support musicians during the coronavirus was censored of all political content, and that a band member was beaten by unknown assailants days after the concert." | Feb 14 03:18 |
| techrights-bot | "Making Custom #GNU #Linux Desktops and installing them from stock settings." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QQps1qTgG4 | Feb 14 03:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Make a Custom Linux Desktop | My AwesomeWM Theme - YouTube | Feb 14 03:18 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unknown assailants. | Feb 14 03:18 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: with MHGA hats | Feb 14 03:27 |
| MinceR | like the "unknown" bald soccer fans who blocked opposition politicians from submitting referendum requests | Feb 14 03:29 |
| schestowitz | "fans" | Feb 14 03:30 |
| schestowitz | "soccer" | Feb 14 03:30 |
| MinceR | or like the "unknown" soldiers who occupied crimea :> | Feb 14 03:33 |
| schestowitz | and the "unknown" gases | Feb 14 03:36 |
| schestowitz | or palaces | Feb 14 03:36 |
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| schestowitz | "no more questions!" | Feb 14 03:36 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 14 03:36 |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโ โโ โ โโ โโโ โ โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.60 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 3.26โ swarm size (avg): 121.77 โฒ | Feb 14 03:36 |
| techrights-bot | "Well, thatโs the U.S., isnโt it? We have what is referred to by scholars as an โadversarial legal systemโ where two sides on an issue battle it out through their lawyers. The conspicuous flaw in this system is that the โstrongerโ party always has an advantage in a fight." https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/02/12/should-we-kill-the-classics/ | Feb 14 03:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Should We Kill โthe Classicsโ? - CounterPunch.org | Feb 14 03:37 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C98K1Lg5blU | Feb 14 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Chinese reporterโs dramatic eye-roll goes viral, then gets censored - YouTube | Feb 14 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcdeHEqZKC0 | Feb 14 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Thereโs nothing to see in reporter's eye roll at Two Sessions| Hu Says - YouTube | Feb 14 03:39 | |
| schestowitz | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T2g_FyqURA | Feb 14 03:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Blue and red war: Eye-rolling journalist goes viral on Chinese internet - YouTube | Feb 14 03:39 | |
| techrights-bot | #FreeBSD 13 BETA2 Released With Working 32-bit Builds, Kernel TLS Offload http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147609#comment-28267 #bsd #unix | Feb 14 03:42 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | FreeBSD 13.0-BETA2 Now Available | Tux Machines | Feb 14 03:42 | |
| techrights-bot | #IOuring Will Be Even Faster With Linux 5.12 - Phoronix โจ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-5.12-Faster-IO_uring โขโโข #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐ง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/14/#latest | Feb 14 03:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IO_uring Will Be Even Faster With Linux 5.12 - Phoronix | Feb 14 03:43 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Feb 14 03:43 | |
| techrights-bot | #IDMAPPED Mounts Aim For Linux 5.12 - Many New Use-Cases From Containers To Systemd-Homed - Phoronix โจ https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=IDMAPPED-Mounts-Linux-5.12 โขโโข #Phoronix #Kernel #Linux ๐ง | more in http://schestowitz.com/2021/02/14/#latest | Feb 14 03:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IDMAPPED Mounts Aim For Linux 5.12 - Many New Use-Cases From Containers To Systemd-Homed - Phoronix | Feb 14 03:44 | |
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| techrights-bot | Data Suggests CoC + #Outreachy Hasnโt Helped Increase Female Participation In #Debian โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147638 โขโโข good 'feel' programs of monopolistic corporations aren't meant to help, except their image/PR. #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Data Suggests CoC + Outreachy Hasn't Helped Increase Female Participation In Debian | Tux Machines | Feb 14 03:48 | |
| MinceR | what a surprise | Feb 14 03:48 |
| techrights-bot | Best Media Center Applications for Linux โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147637 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 03:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Best Media Center Applications for Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 14 03:48 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: http://techrights.org/2021/02/10/outreachy-coc-diversity-results-debian/ | Feb 14 03:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Does Outreachy and a Code of Conduct Increase Diversity? Case Study From Debian | Techrights | Feb 14 03:50 | |
| schestowitz | See comments in Phoronix | Feb 14 03:50 |
| schestowitz | interesting is that Larabel chose to cover it, for a change | Feb 14 03:50 |
| schestowitz | he was blasted by some 'activists' | Feb 14 03:50 |
| schestowitz | and later he defended those Google-sponsored programs | Feb 14 03:50 |
| schestowitz | which I never thought would truly pay off, except for Google (PR gain) | Feb 14 03:51 |
| techrights-bot | "When you get into Vim, you will want Vim keys everywhere, even in places where it doesn't always make a ton of sense." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq0dnkv_HeM | Feb 14 03:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-VibreOffice: Even LibreOffice Gets Vim Emulation - YouTube | Feb 14 03:52 | |
| techrights-bot | "As more and more people are buying crypto currency and trading them, the more there is a need to keep with the current rates for these digital assets. Especially since the price of these currencies are on a meteoric rise in the last few months." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB-1DlaLEOo | Feb 14 03:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Crypto Currency Rates From The Command Line - YouTube | Feb 14 03:53 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Some were saying Terminator Dark Fate made Salvation look good. | Feb 14 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Salvation wasn't too bad, except for having Michael Ironside in it and the T-800 doing at least several things that would have killed anyone, that John Connor walked away from. | Feb 14 03:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They should have kept the original ending where the T-800 killed him and Marcus became "John Connor". | Feb 14 03:56 |
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| MinceR | what's the matter with Michael Ironside? | Feb 14 04:01 |
| MinceR | schestowitz: nice article. are moronix comments worth bothering with this time? | Feb 14 04:05 |
| techrights-bot | Let's infect the #raspi with some more #nsa #backdoors https://www.prweb.com/releases/stratodesk_one_of_first_providers_worldwide_to_support_windows_virtual_desktop_linux_client_on_both_x86_and_raspberry_pi/prweb17721584.htm | Feb 14 04:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.prweb.com | Stratodesk One of First Providers Worldwide to Support Windows Virtual Desktop Linux Client on both x86 and Raspberry Pi | Feb 14 04:06 | |
| techrights-bot | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, February 13, 2021 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Feb 14 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Feb 14 04:08 | |
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| techrights-bot | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Feb 14 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Feb 14 04:08 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "what's the matter with Michael I"> Highlander 2. | Feb 14 04:12 |
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| MinceR | i don't remember Highlander 2 | Feb 14 04:12 |
| MinceR | i do remember Scanners and Starship Troopers, though | Feb 14 04:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, Highlander 2 was poorly written. | Feb 14 04:14 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #meduza #ru #russia #Belarus โ The #Lukashenko circus Why the All-Belarusian Peopleโs Assembly matters and what it means for the opposition https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/02/12/the-lukashenko-circus | Feb 14 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Feb 14 04:14 | |
| techrights-bot | "Official" #covid19 death toll in the US said to be half a million and some estimates I saw said total excess death at one million next month. That's how many "more than usual" people die. Insurance companies should adapt and pension age LOWERED. | Feb 14 04:17 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #meduza #ru #russia #Navalny โ Jailed pro-Navalny protester hospitalized in intensive care following #hungerstrike https://meduza.io/en/news/2021/02/12/jailed-pro-navalny-protester-hospitalized-in-intensive-care-following-hunger-strike | Feb 14 04:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Feb 14 04:18 | |
| techrights-bot | #Microsoft now speaks on behalf of #RaspberryPi http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/raspberry-pi-making-things-worse/ | Feb 14 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Fortnight After Installing Microsoft Surveillance and Keys on Millions of Computers Without Usersโ Consent the Spin Comes From the Raspberry Pi Company (via Microsoft) | Techrights | Feb 14 04:19 | |
| techrights-bot | How to debunk the #brexit myth that #uk is somehow "better" than the rest of #europe https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/ | Feb 14 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.worldometers.info | United Kingdom Coronavirus: 4,027,106 Cases and 116,908 Deaths - Worldometer | Feb 14 04:21 | |
| techrights-bot | What happens when you put nontechnical people in positions of power somewhere like the #gnomefoundation http://deblanc.net/blog/2021/02/13/proprietary-definition-02/ see http://techrights.org/2021/02/09/freesw-license-redefined/ | Feb 14 04:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-deblanc.net | Proprietary (definition) โ 02 | Life on M | Feb 14 04:24 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GNOME Foundation and OSI Move on to โExtendโ Phase Against the Free Software Definition (or Against Software Freedom) | Techrights | Feb 14 04:24 | |
| techrights-bot | "Version 3.12 of #GNU #mailutils is available for download" http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9936 | Feb 14 04:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU Mailutils - News: Version 3.12 [Savannah] | Feb 14 04:26 | |
| techrights-bot | "Version 1.34 of #GNU tar is available for download (see the download directory for archives in other formats)." http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9935 | Feb 14 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU tar - News: Version 1.34 [Savannah] | Feb 14 04:27 | |
| techrights-bot | #GNU #FreeIPMI 1.6.7 Released http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=9937 | Feb 14 04:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-savannah.gnu.org | GNU FreeIPMI - News: FreeIPMI 1.6.7 Released [Savannah] | Feb 14 04:27 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Congratulations on overtaking the US in deaths per capita just months after bragging that your government wasn't as incompetent as Trump's | Feb 14 04:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The mRNA vaccines seem to be the only ones holding up to the more aggressive variations so far. | Feb 14 04:29 |
| techrights-bot | Bad ideas: turning your computers into #listeningDevices wires into the #pentagon and sometimes even #police departments. #espionage #google https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/heres-app-bring-google-assistant-windows-macos-linux-pcs-install-use/ | Feb 14 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mysmartprice.com | Here's An App To Bring Google Assistant to Windows, macOS or Linux PCs: How You to Install and Use | Feb 14 04:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The one developed in the UK is almost useless against the South Africa strain. | Feb 14 04:30 |
| schestowitz | we were always ahead of you | Feb 14 04:30 |
| schestowitz | re death/capita | Feb 14 04:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which just means you're vaccinating people for one thing and creating more room for something else. | Feb 14 04:30 |
| schestowitz | in terms of excess deaths, you may be well ahead | Feb 14 04:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: no, you are guessing | Feb 14 04:30 |
| schestowitz | little is known about those products | Feb 14 04:31 |
| schestowitz | yet you profess to be some expert | Feb 14 04:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | These multiple versions are competing to see which is more fit to survive the conditions that are out there. | Feb 14 04:31 |
| schestowitz | driving 8 hour across a state for some useless "First shot" | Feb 14 04:31 |
| schestowitz | and citing Israeli propaganda | Feb 14 04:31 |
| schestowitz | anyway | Feb 14 04:31 |
| schestowitz | bbl | Feb 14 04:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A Pfizer executive testified that the Coronavirus will almost certainly mutate to resist theirs, and they'll have to tweak it. | Feb 14 04:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But if we can contain the problem quickly before there are many more mutations, then the hope is that we can kind of head that off. | Feb 14 04:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They're talking about being able to cut the production time in half again. | Feb 14 04:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 60 days for a batch instead of 110. | Feb 14 04:33 |
| techrights-bot | #canonical (?) "Internal company chat is #Mattermost , and a couple of other projects use it." https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/messaging-overload/ | Feb 14 04:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-popey.com | Messaging Overload - Alan Pope's blog | Feb 14 04:33 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: What concerns me is I've been seeing more people taking their masks off once they're inside Walmart. Nobody does anything. | Feb 14 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's always been a situation where the damned thing is out there, but I just feel things are coming to a head soon if I didn't act, and they won't even let me get a vaccine, so it was 8 hours across a state for one of us. | Feb 14 04:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The one who is at the most risk. | Feb 14 04:36 |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 12.85 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.58โ swarm size (avg): 121.76 โฒ | Feb 14 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I explained what we knew about the vaccine and what the risks appear to be. | Feb 14 04:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The "Facebook experts" are the ones that concern me here. They say "This guy got the vaccine and died a few days later.". People die all the time. | Feb 14 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 11% of the US population has had at least one dose. That's over 40 million people. | Feb 14 04:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of them will die a few days after getting the vaccine and it would have happened either way because people die. | Feb 14 04:39 |
| techrights-bot | ๐ง๐๐ | Feb 14 04:40 |
| techrights-bot | Things Most People Do After Installing #Debian โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147641 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Things Most People Do After Installing Debian | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:40 | |
| techrights-bot | #ProprietarySoftware Shoehorned Into the #FreeSoftware World โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147640 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Proprietary Software Shoehorned Into the Free Software World | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:41 | |
| techrights-bot | GNU Releases: #mailutils , tar and #FreeIPMI โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147639 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Releases: mailutils, tar and FreeIPMI | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My grandmother's nursing home has been declared COVID-free after the state came in and had all of the staff and residents vaccinated. | Feb 14 04:45 |
| techrights-bot | #fedora 33 has new builds with fixes in them. https://jbwillia.wordpress.com/2021/02/13/f33-updated-live-isos-released-20210212/ #ibm #redhat #gnu #linux | Feb 14 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jbwillia.wordpress.com | F33 updated Live isos Released 20210212 | Jbwillia's Weblog | Feb 14 04:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was getting worse practically by the second. | Feb 14 04:48 |
| techrights-bot | "Hereโs your weekly #Fedora report. Read what happened this week and whatโs coming up." https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fridays-fedora-facts-2021-06/ | Feb 14 04:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-communityblog.fedoraproject.org | Friday's Fedora Facts: 2021-06 โ Fedora Community Blog | Feb 14 04:50 | |
| techrights-bot | Latest High-Profile Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147646 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest High-Profile Videos/Audiocasts/Shows About GNU/Linux | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:57 | |
| techrights-bot | Latest Additions to Linux and โKillingโ #UNIX โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147645 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Latest Additions to Linux and 'Killing' UNIX | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:57 | |
| techrights-bot | #Fedora and #IBM / #RedHat โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147644 โขโโข #GNU #Linux | Feb 14 04:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Fedora and IBM/Red Hat | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:57 | |
| techrights-bot | The #TurrisOmnia #Security -Focused #Freesw Router โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147643 โขโโข #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | The Turris Omnia Security-Focused Open Source Router | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147642 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 14 04:58 | |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #meduza #ru #russia โ Every hour counts! Russian officials drafted legislation that would allow the #police to access peopleโs geolocation data without judicial oversight. Useful streamlining or dangerous surveillance? https://meduza.io/en/feature/2021/02/12/every-hour-counts | Feb 14 04:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Feb 14 04:59 | |
| schestowitz | test http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/making-life-easier-with-freesw/ | Feb 14 05:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Free Software Makes Life Easier, Not Harder | Techrights | Feb 14 05:02 | |
| schestowitz | ok | Feb 14 05:02 |
| techrights-bot | "How conservatives fell in love with trash culture, and why it reflects their rage." https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/02/12/right-devolves-js-bach-skinhead-rock | Feb 14 05:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Opinion | The Right Devolves From J.S. Bach to Skinhead Rock | Feb 14 05:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I think my grandmother got the Moderna one. | Feb 14 05:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told mom, "I'll bet you still can't get her to stay in her room even with more than half the residents with it.". She said I was right. | Feb 14 05:09 |
| techrights-bot | Links 14/2/2021: #Debian 11 'Bullseye' Freeze, Lots of KDE Developments โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/debian-11-bullseye-freeze/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Feb 14 05:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 14/2/2021: Debian 11 โBullseyeโ Freeze, Lots of KDE Developments | Techrights | Feb 14 05:09 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So we were kind of cringing that it was taking the state so long to get out there. | Feb 14 05:09 |
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| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 12.85 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.58โ swarm size (avg): 121.53 โฒ | Feb 14 05:36 |
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| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 12.85 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.58โ swarm size (avg): 121.31 โฒ | Feb 14 06:36 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: if it is abundant, the prices will go down | Feb 14 07:11 |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #CommonDreams #Health โ 'We Won't Be Intimidated,' Says NY AG After #Amazon Files Preemptive Suit Over #Covid19 Worker Safety https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/12/we-wont-be-intimidated-says-ny-ag-after-amazon-files-preemptive-suit-over-covid-19 | Feb 14 07:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'We Won't Be Intimidated,' Says NY AG After Amazon Files Preemptive Suit Over Covid-19 Worker Safety | Common Dreams News | Feb 14 07:13 | |
| techrights-bot | #Programming Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147647 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Programming Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 14 07:16 | |
| techrights-bot | #HowTo Install #Java in Arch Linux and Manjaro โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147648 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 07:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | How to Install Java in Arch Linux and Manjaro | Tux Machines | Feb 14 07:16 | |
| techrights-bot | Despite many fallacies and the lingering stigma, a life full of free (as in freedom) software is a much richer life, if not financially then in terms like personal contentment and personal freedom (including the freedom of expression) http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/making-life-easier-with-freesw/ | Feb 14 07:18 |
| techrights-bot | #Patent #litigation and #extortion zealots and profiteers are teaching how to get illegal #softwarepatents by calling these "Hey Hi" (AI hype) https://www.patentdocs.org/2021/02/program-on-patenting-artificial-intelligence.html | Feb 14 07:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.patentdocs.org | Patent Docs: Program on Patenting Artificial Intelligence | Feb 14 07:21 | |
| techrights-bot | It is a disgrace that journals would print smear campaign and words like "Efficient Infringement" to insinuate some companies that strive for sane patent law are just guilty and reckless https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3771052 | Feb 14 07:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-papers.ssrn.com | Efficient Infringement and the Rule of Law by Jorge L. Contreras :: SSRN | Feb 14 07:34 | |
| techrights-bot | Some journals would print fluff, buzzwords and hype wave like "Hey Hi" instead of talking in actual, technical terms ttps://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3776236 | Feb 14 07:36 |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 12.85 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.58โ swarm size (avg): 121.08 โฒ | Feb 14 07:36 |
| techrights-bot | Defecting from #science to being a parasite https://anchor.fm/howilawyer | Feb 14 07:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-anchor.fm | How I Lawyer Podcast with Jonah Perlin โข A podcast on Anchor | Feb 14 07:37 | |
| techrights-bot | #Clearview are criminals. Pure evil not just because of what they do but also the pursuit of #fakepatents such as #swpats using buzzwords like "HEY HI" https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolinehaskins1/facial-recognition-clearview-patent-dating | Feb 14 07:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.buzzfeednews.com | This Clearview AI Patent Proposal Describes Using Facial Recognition For Dating | Feb 14 07:38 | |
| techrights-bot | #Canada adopting (or trying to adopt) what #EPO "Mafia" used to push for #softwarepatents in spite of their illegality ("problem-solution"): "new guidelines to computer-implemented inventions" https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/canadian-patent-law-2020-a-year-in-2069040/ | Feb 14 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Canadian Patent Law 2020: A Year in Review | Smart & Biggar - JDSupra | Feb 14 07:44 | |
| techrights-bot | #Apple is evil not just because of its mass #surveillance agenda (it misleads the public by misusing the words) but also this whole extremist #patent agenda, which it willfully facilitates https://www.biometricupdate.com/202102/lawsuit-alleges-apple-biometrics-infringe-patents-claims-against-amazon-sent-to-arbitration | Feb 14 07:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.biometricupdate.com | Lawsuit alleges Apple biometrics infringe patents, claims against Amazon sent to arbitration | Biometric Update | Feb 14 07:46 | |
| techrights-bot | Some people in the #eu -- and even elected officials -- call out the #FamousCriminal #billGates (stakeholder) for exploiting #patents to induce price hikes which deny poor people #AccessToMedicine https://zeenews.india.com/india/eu-parliamentarians-back-india-south-africa-proposal-for-covid-19-vaccine-patent-waiver-2339781.html see http://techrights.org/2021/02/04/twitter-berserk/ | Feb 14 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-zeenews.india.com | EU parliamentarians back India-South Africa proposal for COVID-19 vaccine patent waiver | India News | Zee News | Feb 14 07:49 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Twitter: We Suspend Your Account For Quoting the Media About Bill Gates | Techrights | Feb 14 07:49 | |
| techrights-bot | #helloSystem Releases New ISOs For This macOS-Inspired #BSD Desktop OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147467#comment-28268 #unix | Feb 14 07:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | helloSystem is a FreeBSD Distro Modelled on Mac OS X (Off Topic) | Tux Machines | Feb 14 07:52 | |
| techrights-bot | Project #Tofino is doomed before they outsourced it to a #proprietarySoftware prison of #monopoly abuser #microsoft https://medium.com/project-tofino/introducing-datomish-a-flexible-embedded-knowledge-store-1d7976bff344 #deletegithub | Feb 14 07:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Introducing Project Mentat, a flexible embedded knowledge store | by Richard Newman | Project Tofino | Medium | Feb 14 07:58 | |
| techrights-bot | Franรงois Marier: Creating a Kodia media PC using a Raspberry Pi 4 http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/creating-kodi-media-pc-raspberry-pi/ maybe choose another SBC. #raspi is compromised: http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/raspberry-pi-making-things-worse/ | Feb 14 07:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-feeding.cloud.geek.nz | Creating a Kodia media PC using a Raspberry Pi 4 | Feb 14 07:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Fortnight After Installing Microsoft Surveillance and Keys on Millions of Computers Without Usersโ Consent the Spin Comes From the Raspberry Pi Company (via Microsoft) | Techrights | Feb 14 07:59 | |
| techrights-bot | Monolithic Hybrid Micro Nano #Kernel OS and examples https://dwaves.de/2021/02/13/monolithic-hybrid-micro-nano-kernel-os-and-examples/ | Feb 14 08:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ยป Monolithic Hybrid Micro Nano Kernel OS and examples | dwaves.de | Feb 14 08:02 | |
| techrights-bot | Is this a review or an ad? Hard to tell these days... https://www.cnx-software.com/2021/02/14/vacos-cam-ai-security-camera-review-part-1-specifications-unboxing-and-teardown/ | Feb 14 08:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Vacos Cam AI Security Camera Review - Part 1: Specifications, Unboxing and Teardown | Feb 14 08:04 | |
| techrights-bot | #Commell doomed its market prospects by going with an energy-wasting back-doored chip (when vastly better options exist) http://linuxgizmos.com/pico-itx-and-mini-itx-boards-take-off-with-tiger-lake/ see http://techrights.org/wiki/Intel_leaks | Feb 14 08:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxgizmos.com | Pico-ITX and Mini-ITX boards take off with Tiger Lake | Feb 14 08:07 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Intel leaks - Techrights | Feb 14 08:07 | |
| techrights-bot | #MiriamBallhausen and #FSFE are connected, based on this post https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210214-01.en.html see http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/ | Feb 14 08:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Join us I Love Free Software Day 2021 - FSFE | Feb 14 08:10 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | Techrights | Feb 14 08:10 | |
| psydroid | <techrights-bot "#Commell doomed its market prosp"> They are being paid incentives to build such boards? I can't come up with a legitimate use case unless you need the compute power or the binary compatibility, both of which are hardly relevant for embedded devices | Feb 14 08:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe they can add a diesel generator to that board | Feb 14 08:16 |
| techrights-bot | Trust the checksum... until you cannot https://blog.bembel.net/2021/02/the-mysterious-change-of-a-checksum/ | Feb 14 08:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.bembel.net | The mysterious change of a checksum โ bembel.net | Feb 14 08:18 | |
| mjg59 | Commell have been selling Intel-based SBCs for over a decade | Feb 14 08:19 |
| techrights-bot | #KDE on #FreeBSD 2021O1 https://euroquis.nl//kde/2021/02/13/freebsd.html #unix #bsd | Feb 14 08:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-euroquis.nl | KDE on FreeBSD 2021O1 | [bobulate] | Feb 14 08:20 | |
| mjg59 | Actually, looks like over two decades | Feb 14 08:20 |
| techrights-bot | "I have been looking into extending the coordinate-based timezone lookup system we have in #KItinerary , in order to ready it for being moved to #KDE Frameworks." https://www.volkerkrause.eu/2021/02/13/osm-country-subdivision-boundary-polygons.html | Feb 14 08:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.volkerkrause.eu | ISO 3166-1/2 Boundary Polygons | Feb 14 08:21 | |
| techrights-bot | "Along with that I am going to continue my work on updating documents for #GNOME and my next task is updating Evince." https://pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com/2021/02/13/gsod-project-report/ | Feb 14 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pranalideshmukh.wordpress.com | GSoD Project Report โ Pranali Deshmukh | Feb 14 08:22 | |
| techrights-bot | #IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 13, 2021 โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/irc-log-130221/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Feb 14 08:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, February 13, 2021 | Techrights | Feb 14 08:26 | |
| techrights-bot | We got some flattering words from a #gnu developer last night, after he had realised #techrights isn't just "some blog" but a whole team of people with lots of code and operations and devices around the world. We're bigger than we seem on the surface. | Feb 14 08:27 |
| techrights-bot | Using #vpn on #microsoft #windows #vista10 for #privacy purposes it like going to brothels to reduce the chances of STD contraction associated with a relationship | Feb 14 08:29 |
| techrights-bot | There are so many issues associated with #privacy in Signal that I've lost track and count of them. But coup and imperialism (back doors) proponent Musk wants you to use it. As bad as an endorsement gets. https://gadgets.ndtv.com/how-to/features/signal-desktop-how-to-use-on-laptop-pc-mac-linux-windows-steps-guide-2368560 | Feb 14 08:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gadgets.ndtv.com | How to Use Signal on Your Laptop or PC | NDTV Gadgets 360 | Feb 14 08:31 | |
| techrights-bot | If you do not privately exchange keys with someone (no, nobody in the middle should do this) and if your system has back doors in it, you are NOT enjoying #privacy -- just the illusion of it | Feb 14 08:32 |
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| techrights-bot | What is Decision Trees http://ultralinux.org/post/what-is-decision-trees/ key concept in modern #programming | Feb 14 08:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ultralinux.org | What is Decision Trees | Feb 14 08:34 | |
| techrights-ipfs | โ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: โโโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโโ โโโ โโโโโ โโโโโโโโโโโ โโ avg(k/sec) 12.85 โ IPFS upstream: โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ avg(k/sec) 15.58โ swarm size (avg): 120.85 โฒ | Feb 14 08:36 |
| Ariadne | there are lots of x86 SBCs | Feb 14 08:39 |
| schestowitz | yes, unfortunately | Feb 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <techrights-bot> โ NEWS โ #Bloomberg #GAFAM #softbank โ Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm Protest #Nvidia โs Acquisition of Arm Ltd. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-12/google-microsoft-qualcomm-protest-nvidia-s-arm-acquisition | Feb 14 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot? | Feb 14 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | [09:23] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- Google, Microsoft, Qualcomm Protest Nvidiaโs Arm Acquisition - Bloomberg | Feb 14 08:43 |
| schestowitz | [09:23] <techrights-bot> โ NEWS โ #TheVerge #GAFAM #patents #monopoly #hardware โ Microsoft, Google, and Qualcomm are reportedly nervous about Nvidia acquiring Arm https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22280262/qualcomm-microsoft-google-nvidia-arm-acquisition-investigations-concerns | Feb 14 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft, Google, and Qualcomm are reportedly nervous about Nvidia acquiring Arm - The Verge | Feb 14 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | [09:23] [Notice] -TechrightsSocial to #boycottnovell-social- www.theverge.com | Microsoft, Google, and Qualcomm are reportedly nervous about Nvidia acquiring Arm - The Verge | Feb 14 08:43 |
| mjg59 | So it's not clear why a company that's been making them for decades has doomed its market prospects by making another? | Feb 14 08:44 |
| schestowitz | the world is moving on | Feb 14 08:44 |
| schestowitz | price- and performance-wise | Feb 14 08:44 |
| schestowitz | bang for buck (of watt) improved | Feb 14 08:45 |
| mjg59 | If their customers currently want x86, then trying to sell them something that isn't x86 seems like it would do more harm to their prospects | Feb 14 08:45 |
| Ariadne | yes, x86 sucks | Feb 14 08:45 |
| Ariadne | however | Feb 14 08:45 |
| Ariadne | there's a lot of embedded linux distros that are x86 | Feb 14 08:46 |
| Ariadne | and stuff like pfsense | Feb 14 08:46 |
| Ariadne | that usually gets deployed onto x86 SBCs like pcengines apu2 | Feb 14 08:46 |
| Ariadne | also there are power efficient x86 cpus, such as geode. they're not particularly speedy, but they're fast enough to push packets around | Feb 14 08:46 |
| Ariadne | i would say x86 is still king in bespoke networking middleboxes | Feb 14 08:47 |
| Ariadne | part of the reason why is, a lot of NIC drivers and such make assumptions about x86 memory model in their code | Feb 14 08:47 |
| techrights-bot | Give something from the heart to the #publicdomain https://opensource.com/article/21/2/public-domain you go first, #ibm ... maybe toss proprietary racist Watson at the public domain? | Feb 14 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Give something from the heart to the public domain | Opensource.com | Feb 14 08:48 | |
| Ariadne | now obviously there are more modern NPUs with integrated ARM CPUs | Feb 14 08:48 |
| Ariadne | and those products are pretty good | Feb 14 08:49 |
| Ariadne | but those products aren't necessarily supported by VyOS or pfSense | Feb 14 08:49 |
| Ariadne | and those NOS are basically king in networking middleboxes | Feb 14 08:49 |
| techrights-bot | Something explosive about #google and #debian is about to come out | Feb 14 08:50 |
| Ariadne | yes, world is moving on, but world is not fully moved on yet. there's definitely life in the x86 SBC market for the next decade | Feb 14 08:50 |
| techrights-bot | Todayโs #HowTos | #UNIX โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147649 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Feb 14 08:51 | |
| Ariadne | Intel Atom is quite competitive performance/watt to ARM cores too | Feb 14 08:51 |
| Ariadne | a lot of the whitebox switches use Intel Atom SoCs | Feb 14 08:51 |
| techrights-bot | Why programmers love Linux packaging โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147650 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #programming | Feb 14 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Why programmers love Linux packaging | Tux Machines | Feb 14 08:51 | |
| techrights-bot | #Android Leftovers โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147651 โขโโข #Google #Linux #TuxMachines | Feb 14 08:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Android Leftovers | Tux Machines | Feb 14 08:51 | |
| Ariadne | also, people doing networking don't necessarily chase the latest and greatest | Feb 14 08:52 |
| Ariadne | they tend to prefer solutions that they know are reliable | Feb 14 08:52 |
| Ariadne | so, if they know some x86 SBC is reliable, they're going to stick with it until they need better capabilities, because they know it won't wake them up at 3 AM | Feb 14 08:52 |
| Ariadne | most people don't care about the low level details, they care about the appliance not waking them up at 3 AM because everything is down | Feb 14 08:53 |
| schestowitz | I mentioned two aspects | Feb 14 08:54 |
| schestowitz | one was security | Feb 14 08:54 |
| Ariadne | this is also why Marvell is still selling Octeon MIPS CPUs hand over fist despite all of their efforts going to ARM | Feb 14 08:54 |
| schestowitz | the other costs, esp. wrt power | Feb 14 08:54 |
| Ariadne | well, x86 cores can be secure | Feb 14 08:54 |
| Ariadne | and reasonably power efficient | Feb 14 08:54 |
| psydroid | https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=jopib31mjbb2b85chudbeuej3n&topic=12186.210 | Feb 14 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forum.opnsense.org | [Work In Progress] OPNsense Ported into ARM Devices | Feb 14 08:54 | |
| schestowitz | :)_ | Feb 14 08:55 |
| schestowitz | bsd | Feb 14 08:55 |
| Ariadne | but the main thing people look for in a middlebox is uptime | Feb 14 08:55 |
| Ariadne | as long as it uses a reasonable power draw and is stable, they don't care | Feb 14 08:55 |
| schestowitz | it amazes me how little power the raspi4 takes for how much computational power | Feb 14 08:55 |
| schestowitz | it can run on a couple of batteries | Feb 14 08:55 |
| Ariadne | raspi4 isn't appropriate for a middlebox tho | Feb 14 08:55 |
| schestowitz | the ones you buy in pound stores | Feb 14 08:55 |
| Ariadne | not enough I/O | Feb 14 08:55 |
| schestowitz | you can make a cluster | Feb 14 08:56 |
| Ariadne | you can get intel atom CPUs that use less than 5 watts power (like ARM) and have assloads of I/O | Feb 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz | not that I would now... seeing raspi isn't doing anything at all to deescalate the microsoft blunder | Feb 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz | they help Microsoft use raspi as Trojan horse of Microsoft in classrooms | Feb 14 08:56 |
| schestowitz | > assloads of I/O | Feb 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz | "loading arse" | Feb 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz | "loading complete" | Feb 14 08:57 |
| schestowitz | "shit's going down" | Feb 14 08:57 |
| Ariadne | the atom p5942b has 32 lanes of PCIe in 5 watts | Feb 14 08:58 |
| *psydroid expects Microsoft to acquire Raspberry Pi Inc for a few pennies OR celebrate its death | Feb 14 08:58 | |
| Ariadne | the only thing that gets close to that is some of the NXP layerscape stuff, but there's less cores than the atom has | Feb 14 08:59 |
| Ariadne | and atom doesn't have hyperthreading | Feb 14 08:59 |
| Ariadne | so most of the x86 security problems aren't present | Feb 14 08:59 |
| psydroid | are there Atoms with more than 16 cores? | Feb 14 08:59 |
| Ariadne | no | Feb 14 09:00 |
| Ariadne | but the competing ARM NPU is the NXP layerscape 2160a which is higher power consumption | Feb 14 09:00 |
| Ariadne | and less PCIe lanes (though you have more SERDES lanes than the Atom has) | Feb 14 09:00 |
| schestowitz | psydroid: they've dug their own graves, BUT... | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | we don't know who facilitated this infiltration | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | certainly not Upton | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | and he certainly isn't doing anything, at least not visibly (to the public) to tackle this issue | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft had a go at him about 4 years ago | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | to make raspi just a windows PC | Feb 14 09:01 |
| schestowitz | not sure why they stopped, but surely something then happened | Feb 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz | and they have a go at them again | Feb 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz | the cult tactics are rather apparent | Feb 14 09:02 |
| schestowitz | they say you are "hater" and "bashing" if you say "No!" | Feb 14 09:02 |
| psydroid | isn't that what Robert X. Cringely said about Microsoft? | Feb 14 09:03 |
| schestowitz | no | Feb 14 09:03 |
| schestowitz | he said something else | Feb 14 09:03 |
| schestowitz | unless he said more things | Feb 14 09:03 |
| schestowitz | he talked about how gates and ballmer schemed to 'rob' allen | Feb 14 09:03 |
| psydroid | from what I see they will keep trying until the plan has succeeded | Feb 14 09:04 |
| Ariadne | yeah well paul allen owns spectrum cable now | Feb 14 09:04 |
| Ariadne | or his family does | Feb 14 09:04 |
| Ariadne | soooo he's not hurting | Feb 14 09:04 |
| Ariadne | (: | Feb 14 09:04 |
| schestowitz | he also has a patent troll | Feb 14 09:05 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Interval | Feb 14 09:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Interval - Techrights | Feb 14 09:05 | |
| psydroid | I'm wondering now if I was actually targetted as was a teacher of mine ,who is an open Microsoft critic, when I was invited to the opening of the quantum computing lab 2 years ago and it makes me not trust even my own university | Feb 14 09:08 |
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| schestowitz | they target many people | Feb 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | me included | Feb 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | several times | Feb 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | they're a dangerous cult | Feb 14 09:14 |
| schestowitz | vis-a-vis: | Feb 14 09:15 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2008/04/20/scientology-microsoft/ | Feb 14 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Government Delegate Compares Microsoft Methods to โScientology Cultโ | Techrights | Feb 14 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/09/cult-mentality/ | Feb 14 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoftโs Fingers in Every Pie: The Cult Mentality That Society Needs to Become Wary of | Techrights | Feb 14 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2012/04/28/microsoft-cult-vs-zachariades/ | Feb 14 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Cult Mentality at Microsoft and Its Allies | Techrights | Feb 14 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/05/07/microsoft-breakdown/ | Feb 14 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Cult-Like Tactics Destroy Hospitals by Ripping Apart Everything Microsoft (and the NSA) Cannot Control | Techrights | Feb 14 09:15 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2021/01/30/microsoft-as-a-cult/ | Feb 14 09:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Like a Cult, According to Former Microsoft Insider | Techrights | Feb 14 09:15 | |
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| techrights-bot | Hands-On with #ManjaroLinux ARM on Raspberry Pi 4: A Gem! โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147652 #gnu #linux | Feb 14 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Hands-On with Manjaro Linux ARM on Raspberry Pi 4: A Gem! | Tux Machines | Feb 14 12:32 | |
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| techrights-bot | Selling Ourselves Out to #ProprietarySoftware #Monopolies โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/selling-ourselves-out/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux | Feb 14 13:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Selling Ourselves Out to Proprietary Software Monopolies | Techrights | Feb 14 13:02 | |
| techrights-bot | Data Science isn't a job or profession. It's an offense a lot of time. But they lobby our governments to make #surveillance the norm. | Feb 14 13:11 |
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| techrights-bot | Converting/Turning Your Web Site Into #Gemini Capsule is a Lot Simpler Than Youโve Probably Imagined โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/converting-to-gemini-capsules/ โขโโข #Techrights #GeminiSpace #WWW #Internet | Feb 14 13:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Converting/Turning Your Web Site Into Gemini Capsule is a Lot Simpler Than Youโve Probably Imagined | Techrights | Feb 14 13:43 | |
| techrights-bot | โ NEWS โ #CommonDreams โ 'A Complete Capitulation': Outrage as Democrats Abruptly Back Off Push for Witnesses in #Trump Trial https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/13/complete-capitulation-outrage-democrats-abruptly-back-push-witnesses-trump-trial | Feb 14 14:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'A Complete Capitulation': Outrage as Democrats Abruptly Back Off Push for Witnesses in Trump Trial | Common Dreams News | Feb 14 14:02 | |
| techrights-bot | The #impeachment outcome shows that the United States will never be able to seriously preach any country anywhere (anymore) about "democracy" or "spreading democracy" or "respecting election" of "peaceful transition". It's over. USA is USSR. | Feb 14 14:06 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Trump isn't coming back. | Feb 14 14:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We voted him out and he didn't get more popular after the riot. | Feb 14 14:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Samsung Clown is shutting down a bunch of stuff. | Feb 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Says get your data out before they delete it. | Feb 14 14:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They recommend moving to OneDrive. | Feb 14 14:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll copy the email over to you in a couple hours. | Feb 14 14:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need to take Mandy to work and make sure none of my personal info is in here first. | Feb 14 14:25 |
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| techrights-bot | How We Efficiently Manage the โTechrights HQโ โข ๐๐๐๐ก๐ซ๐ข๐ ๐ก๐ญ๐ฌ โจ http://techrights.org/2021/02/14/techrights-hq/ โขโโข #Techrights #GNU #Linux #FreeSW | Feb 14 15:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | How We Efficiently Manage the โTechrights HQโ | Techrights | Feb 14 15:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Might be worth writing about how Samsung is turning their Android phones into Microsoft phones with each new release. | Feb 14 15:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They even set up the photo gallery to pester you to sign up for OneDrive with no way to to tell it no permanently. It comes back and asks again in a few weeks. | Feb 14 15:09 |
| techrights-bot | Today in #Techrights โข ๐ง๐๐ ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ถ๐ป๐ฒ๐ โจ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/147653 โขโโข #GNU #Linux #TuxMachine | Feb 14 15:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "More than 600,000 Americans will have died of coronavirus by June 1, model forecasts." - CNN | Feb 14 15:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why are they bothering us with that fake model that Trump cited that said 62,000 dead by August and then it would stop? It's 500,000 already. | Feb 14 15:14 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Putin has come up with a new excuse: He first has to receive other vaccinations and therefore can't get Sputnik V until the end of the summer." | Feb 14 15:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Riiight. | Feb 14 15:51 |
| CrystalMath | hundreds of thousands here received Sputnik-V | Feb 14 15:52 |
| CrystalMath | but i personally would go with Sinopharm | Feb 14 15:52 |
| CrystalMath | (BBIBP-CorV) | Feb 14 15:52 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I really don't think that will be the vaccine of choice either way. | Feb 14 15:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a propaganda tool more than anything. | Feb 14 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Russians say we approved something before anyone else did, and then there's no credible data on how well it works. | Feb 14 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They just starts injecting people with it to hopefully put a lid on the Coronavirus so fewer important people will catch it. | Feb 14 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *start | Feb 14 15:58 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: "hopefully" is exactly the right word. | Feb 14 15:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Traditional vaccines are very inefficient, and that's sort of the thing that makes mRNA vaccines a big prize. You can keep all of the secondary ingredients out, and hopefully have lower production costs, spin up production with less waste, and give the patient a more effective vaccine. | Feb 14 16:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So if it works, it's win-win-win for everyone around, but it's too soon to say. | Feb 14 16:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The spike protein mRNA is delivered either way, it's just that with more traditional vaccines, there's other stuff in there, which means it's more likely to go awry when you inject the patient with it. | Feb 14 16:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Either with side effects or lower efficacy. | Feb 14 16:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Putin's claim that Sputnik V is the most advanced vaccine ever is laughable. There's nothing particularly unique about it. Most countries and vaccine companies chose to develop vaccines that are similar in nature. | Feb 14 16:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sputnik V is probably about as safe/effective as the Johnson & Johnson one or the AstraZeneca/Oxford one. | Feb 14 16:03 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It was not a statement targeted at the competent people. | Feb 14 16:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If all I could get access to was the J&J one, then I would sit down and take it because it beats nothing, which is where we're at now unless you're on a priority list. | Feb 14 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | It's a statement of patriotism that Russia is ahead of everyone else once again. | Feb 14 16:04 |
| XRevan86 | It doesn't matter that it's not true. | Feb 14 16:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Technically, the US FDA could have approved the Pfizer and Moderna ones in May and we would have beaten Russia by a month. | Feb 14 16:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There wouldn't have been a Phase II trial, but it would be technically correct. | Feb 14 16:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For something that's never been tried before, skipping even the bare minimum of testing is pretty dangerous. Russia tested Sputnik on a couple hundred people and when (they claim) nothing went wrong over a couple of weeks, they approved it. | Feb 14 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Russia's cut corners and has beaten US in the race fair and square :D | Feb 14 16:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If that's your only standard of safety, then yeah. You got there first. | Feb 14 16:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like the Olympic athletes that were "students". | Feb 14 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Students" who were paid by the state to train full time for the Olympics and doped with steroids. | Feb 14 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, Soviet Union win many medals with marvelous amateur athletes. | Feb 14 16:07 |
| CrystalMath | Sputnik-V is very similar to the AstraZeneca vaccine | Feb 14 16:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comrade Colonel Putin very pleased indeed. | Feb 14 16:08 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Shake many hand. | Feb 14 16:08 |
| CrystalMath | i think both are very intersting approaches | Feb 14 16:09 |
| CrystalMath | but i would rather go with the tried-and-true traditional vaccine | Feb 14 16:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I actually feel sorry for them that the USSR collapsed instead of undergoing reform. | Feb 14 16:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have a much worse problem now. China. | Feb 14 16:10 |
| CrystalMath | i've changed my mind about china, i think they're almost okay now | Feb 14 16:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The living standards and life expectancy in Russia now is worse for most people than it was before the USSR collapsed. | Feb 14 16:10 |
| CrystalMath | what are you talking about? russia is great | Feb 14 16:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's incredibly lopsided, but that's going on in the US worse than before. | Feb 14 16:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Once the threat of organized labor and Socialism passed, big business in the US started gradually lowering the standard of living to take more profit. | Feb 14 16:12 |
| *XRevan86 typed "Sputink-V" into a search engine. | Feb 14 16:13 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the same time, brainwashing people like mom and dad to defend the system that ended their careers, stole their pension, and gave them $10,000 deductible health insurance. | Feb 14 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump was talking about Obamacare. He said "You have to be hit by a tractor to get past your annual deductible.". | Feb 14 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not far from the truth. | Feb 14 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom actually gets shittier health insurance as a nurse than Mandy does as a Walmart worker. | Feb 14 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His deductible is $2,200 a year, hers is $8,800 in network. | Feb 14 16:14 |
| XRevan86 | Lots of Vladimir Milov references. I guess he coined it :) | Feb 14 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His maximum annual out of pocket costs are $8,350. Hers are over $12,000. | Feb 14 16:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think America might be the only country where people take Uber to the hospital to avoid a $5,000 ambulance ride. | Feb 14 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | And then there are some neutral statements where it looks like a genuine type. | Feb 14 16:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then have to check an app while they're having a heart attack to make sure the hospital is in network. | Feb 14 16:15 |
| XRevan86 | * typo | Feb 14 16:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: I took an Uber to the ER once. | Feb 14 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The ambulance co-pay on my insurance is $500. The Uber was $20. | Feb 14 16:16 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Was the taxi faster too? | Feb 14 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Feb 14 16:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy was driving like a bat out of hell. | Feb 14 16:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | America! Fuck yeah! Here to save the motherfucking day y'all! | Feb 14 16:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just wrap it in some paper towels and call an Uber. | Feb 14 16:17 |
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| Narrator | hmm | Feb 14 17:13 |
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| MinceR | 14 165827 < DaemonFC[m]> The Russians say we approved something before anyone else did, and then there's no credible data on how well it works. | Feb 14 17:15 |
| MinceR | they "approved" it before they did any testing | Feb 14 17:15 |
| MinceR | but that's good enough for orban to force other people to take it. | Feb 14 17:16 |
| MinceR | 14 171116 < CrystalMath> what are you talking about? russia is great | Feb 14 17:17 |
| MinceR | you should try living in it, then | Feb 14 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | it sounds really good | Feb 14 17:17 |
| CrystalMath | no great reset, no carbon footprint card | Feb 14 17:17 |
| MinceR | we should deport all the "conservatives" into russia and build a big dome on top of it | Feb 14 17:17 |
| MinceR | so they'll poison their own air, not ours | Feb 14 17:18 |
| MinceR | and they'll make life hell for each other, not us | Feb 14 17:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Mom got mad at me when I said let's suppose that this happened in 1918 instead of the flu. | Feb 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone prays to God, they have no vaccines or ventilators which were developed later by scientists. | Feb 14 17:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 5% of the world population eventually dies of COVID. | Feb 14 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Nonononono | Feb 14 17:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Christians vilify scientists. | Feb 14 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Keep them, take ours too. | Feb 14 17:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 14 17:23 |
| MinceR | we could let the sane people move out of russia first | Feb 14 17:23 |
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| MinceR | or partition it so the dome wouldn't have to have such a complex shape anyway | Feb 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They pack church and then pray for each other AFTER they get the disease, and walk around Walmart spreading it to people who are just ringing up groceries who didn't even do anything wrong. | Feb 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Potentially killing those people and their family. | Feb 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that they get their weekly pep talk about how much good God is doing for them (not a lot). | Feb 14 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: I have a compromise. Take just Moscow. | Feb 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: How are things on that front in the UK? Did they sue to get churches open or is the government there a bit more sane about this? | Feb 14 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | spare the rest | Feb 14 17:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: This will eventually turn into a disease that disproportionately affects and kills people who are just generally ignorant. | Feb 14 17:25 |
| MinceR | lol | Feb 14 17:25 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: that sounds way to good to be true | Feb 14 17:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because in a few months the vaccine will be available to at least most people who want it. | Feb 14 17:25 |
| MinceR | the vaccine will be available in the free world | Feb 14 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You mean you aren't going to get Comrade Colonel's injection? | Feb 14 17:26 |
| MinceR | crap with unreliable documentation, unreliable labeling and unknown contents will be available in this shithole country instead | Feb 14 17:26 |
| MinceR | but you can be sure that the nazis will do everything they can to please other dictators with the deal | Feb 14 17:26 |
| MinceR | hopefully there will be a way to go to western europe and get some genuine, tested vaccine there eventually | Feb 14 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: If I had to guess, without knowing much of anything, it probably played out about like how the Republicans took over Indiana. | Feb 14 17:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People hate taxes, and the only thing they hate more than taxes are the idea that it's being spent on "the undeserving poor". | Feb 14 17:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Look what we had to go to halfass a healthcare reform law. | Feb 14 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Again, he's Lt. Colonel! | Feb 14 17:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It places extreme emphasis on getting work, even if there is no work. | Feb 14 17:28 |
| XRevan86 | big difference | Feb 14 17:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comrade Colonel disagrees. You'll be getting a glitter bomb from him soon with ricin. | Feb 14 17:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's watching you. | Feb 14 17:29 |
| MinceR | there is something the "conservatives" live spending taxes on, though | Feb 14 17:30 |
| MinceR | it's enforcing religious rules, especially against people who haven't asked for it | Feb 14 17:30 |
| MinceR | s/liv/lov/ | Feb 14 17:30 |
| MinceR | this is called "small government" | Feb 14 17:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They like taxes. They fund their campaigns to terrorize people who don't look or think like them. | Feb 14 17:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana has spent tens of millions of dollars in court fighting and losing on gay marriage and whether people can choose X on their driver's license under "gender" or not. | Feb 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's shit like this. | Feb 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not small government. | Feb 14 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do you know how many people paid taxes in Indiana all year to have the state seize that and spend it attacking other people in court, just to lose? | Feb 14 17:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They could have bought food or paid the rent. Instead, the state took it and paid lawyers to make frivolous arguments that not even Republican judges went along with. | Feb 14 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Conservatives love vexatious litigation. | Feb 14 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's part of the re-election campaign, not intended to actually win. | Feb 14 17:33 |
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| AVRS | XRevan86: a more profitable option: Moscow could try selling SPb for that | Feb 14 18:04 |
| AVRS | Bonus: if the most extreme conservatives don't fit, they drown | Feb 14 18:10 |
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| XRevan86 | AVRS: I don't want to move, so I'd rather not. | Feb 14 18:21 |
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| MinceR | (cat) (audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/05/13ca663355c4b7b0.mp4 | Feb 14 18:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I've been considering this more, and I think we should probably be sending the bulk of the vaccines in Illinois to the counties bordering Wisconsin and Iowa. | Feb 14 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wisconsin's Supreme Court banned the entire emergency order, including masks, and Iowa's governor banned mask ordinances and reopened the schools. | Feb 14 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're seeing a much bigger population-adjusted problem in the counties bordering those states than anywhere else in Illinois, and I think it's because of that. People coming over across the state line a little bit into Illinois and spreading it here. | Feb 14 19:03 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It's ultimately up to the states to decide who is eligible and prioritized, but the states with the worst results are the ones listening to the federal government. | Feb 14 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The federal government's recommendations are creating bottlenecks in delivery even during a shortage of vaccine doses. | Feb 14 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that Pfizer definitely wants to make more, because Roy's suggestion that scarcity drives up price doesn't hold when the government has promised them a fixed price. | Feb 14 19:06 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If people weren't getting the costs covered 100% by the government or the insurance companies, and Pfizer had no set quotas, then I think they'd have an incentive to create shortages to drive prices up. | Feb 14 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: CNN has another Bill Gates story. | Feb 14 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His daughter got the vaccine and says it's unfortunate they can't inject her dad's "genius" into her. | Feb 14 19:08 |
| MinceR | does the author believe there's a shortage of criminals? | Feb 14 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She has grammatical errors in her tweet. | Feb 14 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Says she's glad the mRNA is "teaching my body to amount a defense". | Feb 14 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | :) | Feb 14 19:09 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 14 19:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "As a medical student..." they should send her to English 101. | Feb 14 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: My mom keeps saying they have a lot of "dialects" in the Philippines. | Feb 14 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "You mean they have many languages. A difference in dialect would be different forms of the same language.". | Feb 14 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I would say she's slipping, but her world view is so warped that between ignorance and prejudice..... | Feb 14 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She was ranting about Joe Biden causing gas in her town to be $2.95, so I looked at it on GasBuddy. It was $2.45 yesterday and it's $2.30 today. | Feb 14 19:14 |
| MinceR | you've said so before | Feb 14 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think she's so frightened by the world that she just makes up a different one in her head to live in. | Feb 14 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's some danger out there, but it's not as bad as you'd be led to believe unless you're watching a steady diet of junk news. | Feb 14 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Coronavirus is more dangerous than violent crime. | Feb 14 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__ isn't always correct about danger assessments either. | Feb 14 19:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's about 37,500 Americans killed per year in car accidents. | Feb 14 19:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We're a month away from 12 full months of significant Coronavirus deaths. Already at 500,000. At this rate, we'll be at roughly 570,000 or so (official) by the end of March. | Feb 14 19:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's at least car accidents multiplied by 15. | Feb 14 19:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And as Roy pointed out, they're probably undercounting Coronavirus deaths by at least 25-30%. | Feb 14 19:19 |
| MinceR | (audio:unimportant) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/05/c29a4a365fb988cb.mp4 | Feb 14 19:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no reason to think that the next 12 months of COVID in the US will be any better than last year unless vaccination presses forward. | Feb 14 19:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really do wish that they'd stop handing the microphone to Bill Gates. It's obvious what's happening. No legitimate news company interviews a guy who never graduated college about a pandemic 200 times over the course of a year without bribes. | Feb 14 19:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There may or may not be anything wrong with the vaccines, but putting him in the spotlight hurts credibility. | Feb 14 19:22 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: -1 bicycle | Feb 14 19:24 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 14 19:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can have 2 bicycles per train car on Metra during non-rush hour trains. | Feb 14 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe not during COVID, but who knows? | Feb 14 19:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/14/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html | Feb 14 19:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-US Coronavirus: Covid-19 cases have declined sharply. These factors will determine how pandemic unfolds from here, group of experts says - CNN | Feb 14 19:39 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "winning the war" | Feb 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There is no war. No matter what happens, we didn't win. | Feb 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a question of how bad did we get our asses kicked before we managed to gain some control over the disaster. | Feb 14 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Mom said there's someone she works with who didn't want to get Chinese take out because "Aren't they the ones who are making the virus?". | Feb 14 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Yeah, they have a little germ warfare lab back there in the kitchen.". | Feb 14 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Better call the health department who said this was low risk." | Feb 14 19:41 |
| MinceR | lo | Feb 14 19:45 |
| MinceR | l | Feb 14 19:45 |
| MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2021/02/06/8e46ba2f138dcdeb.jpg | Feb 14 19:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: The Republicans have basically given up trying for the Illinois legislature are are trying to pick off some seats on the state Supreme Court instead. | Feb 14 20:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They managed to flip a seat last year in a major upset. | Feb 14 20:13 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Unlike legislative districts that change, each region of Illinois is guaranteed seats on the Supreme Court even if there are few people living there. | Feb 14 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So downstate Illinois has lost influence in the legislature, but can still have some on the Supreme Court. | Feb 14 20:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the thinking goes that they may pick up enough seats to start overturning laws with judicial review. | Feb 14 20:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't see it happening, but the fact that they flipped one last year shocked me. | Feb 14 20:15 |
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| schestowitz__ | >> Ballhausen and FSFE are connected, based on this post | Feb 14 20:27 |
| schestowitz__ | >> https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210214-01.en.html see | Feb 14 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Join us I Love Free Software Day 2021 - FSFE | Feb 14 20:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Feb 14 20:27 |
| schestowitz__ | >> http://techrights.org/2020/08/29/debian-threats-bird-and-bird/ | Feb 14 20:27 |
| schestowitz__ | >> | Feb 14 20:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Miriam Ballhausen and Debian Money, DebConf Online, Insulting a Volunteer at a Time of Grief | Techrights | Feb 14 20:27 | |
| schestowitz__ | > | Feb 14 20:27 |
| schestowitz__ | > I have something more about Ballhausen in the pipeline too | Feb 14 20:27 |
| liberty_box | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chBitgIdyTk | Feb 14 20:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Seal "Julius" FINALLY rescued! - YouTube | Feb 14 20:30 | |
| vZS1 | Look at this propaganda: https://www.reviewgeek.com/71050/raspberry-pi-finally-gets-a-great-text-editor-from-microsoft/ | Feb 14 20:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reviewgeek.com | Raspberry Pi Finally Gets a Great Text EditorโFrom Microsoft โ Review Geek | Feb 14 20:31 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/14/europe/europe-crises-intl-analysis/index.html | Feb 14 20:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The EU is facing the most serious crises in its history. Many are wondering if anyone's in charge - CNN | Feb 14 20:35 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | There's been significant disagreements between US states, and lawsuits, but nothing of the sort where one dominates federal politics above all of the rest. | Feb 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: on topic, please... | Feb 14 20:37 |
| schestowitz__ | vallor: disturbing and not unique | Feb 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I saw similar pieces from people connected to Microsoft | Feb 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz__ | They use the whole thing as a "win" and "success story" | Feb 14 20:39 |
| Techrights-sec | The shills have been out in droves over the RPi attack. | Feb 14 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft hasn't really made any great text editors. | Feb 14 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It just makes a lot of them. | Feb 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz__ | atom is dead | Feb 14 20:39 |
| schestowitz__ | so they killed at least one more | Feb 14 20:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The same thing that's going on with the terminal program situation in Windows happened with text editing on Windows. | Feb 14 20:40 |
| Techrights-sec | They are trying to spin it as other than what happened: an attack against RPF | Feb 14 20:40 |
| Techrights-sec | There is no situation in which it is advantageous for RPF to partner with | Feb 14 20:40 |
| Techrights-sec | MSFT | Feb 14 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Money. It's all about the money. | Feb 14 20:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like the FSF taking money from IBM. Money that is not just IBM being generous. | Feb 14 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Money that goes beyond what the FSF needs to operate. | Feb 14 20:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's turning into another Linux Foundation very quickly now that RMS is gone. | Feb 14 20:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The money is "Here, take this and don't cause problems for us while we do these things.". | Feb 14 20:42 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | that's how it works | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | shareholder would sue if it was just "free money" | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | free from obligations and strings | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | Google is a worse offender than IBM in this regards | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | They prepare decades in advance | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | sough to muzzle critics | Feb 14 20:43 |
| schestowitz__ | *sought | Feb 14 20:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've never seen any real criticism of Google in the mass media, aside from conservatives claiming that they were being censored. | Feb 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz__ | this is untrue | Feb 14 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't get how. I saw ads for Trump all over Google. | Feb 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Google does get blasted occasionally | Feb 14 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They work with ICE. | Feb 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz__ | for all sorts of things | Feb 14 20:44 |
| schestowitz__ | Sometimes Microsoft eggs them on | Feb 14 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't seem to have traction if they are getting criticized. | Feb 14 20:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People have been programmed by huge corporations to defend DRM programs that are restricting them from using their own computer, even for basic fair use purposes. | Feb 14 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you look at reviews of things with DRM and it's not people going this is wrong, it's people saying things like "Microsoft Janus was a disaster because reasons, and Apple developed something that wasn't so apparently obnoxious.". At least, of course, until you try to use your purchased items 10-20 years later. | Feb 14 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The DRM scheme has shut down, and you're in exactly the same boat that Walmart Music put people in with Janus a little bit sooner. | Feb 14 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now we're calling it Widevine. | Feb 14 20:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If people never got around to deleting and re-downloading their iTunes library free of DRM and backing it up to save it from their Mac deleting it and recommending Apple Music, they have lost thousands of dollars, perhaps. | Feb 14 20:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Did they learn anything? No. Call it streaming now. Take away anything that implies ownership, then people just turn over money all the time. | Feb 14 20:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy didn't understand why I used the library to get stuff and played it on my disc player at home. | Feb 14 20:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I explained how we'd be out several hundred dollars each year when I drive past the library every day anyway. | Feb 14 20:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I had to explain everything to him, including zero-based budgeting, savings bonds, using credit cards for points but never anything you wouldn't have bought with cash. | Feb 14 20:52 |
| vZS1 | Google will take any Ad revenue they get. They don't care who they take it from. Just like Facebook. | Feb 14 20:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I would say maybe the people in the Philippines don't plan long term and for robustness, but people in general don't. | Feb 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Be it because they're from a poor place or just a country full of slobs. | Feb 14 20:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The dude at the bank was trying to upsell us to some checking account with fees, because you could get more points out of another credit card. I said, "Nah. Honestly, the only reason you got my attention with this card is because 4% on gas as a permanent category is a good deal.". | Feb 14 20:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Stallman seems a bit paranoid. If the government is watching anything I buy they could know that I gas up my car and buy dented canned goods at this very moment. | Feb 14 20:56 |
| vZS1 | He's not paranoid. He's right about the surveillance state. | Feb 14 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <vZS1 "Google will take any Ad revenue "> They buy up credit card purchase data. Even about people who never use Google. | Feb 14 20:57 |
| schestowitz__ | yup | Feb 14 20:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Banks don't give you things "for free", and everyone should know the cost of those rewards points is some of their privacy. | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | RMS was not just right | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | he foresaw these issues before they became real | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | in some areas at least | Feb 14 20:58 |
| vZS1 | It's a shame he let his organization get infiltrated and his software as well | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | because of the potential for abuse | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | which soon before more than just potential | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: true | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | but he's still | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | there | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | albeit | Feb 14 20:58 |
| schestowitz__ | rarely speaks out for it anymore | Feb 14 20:58 |
| vZS1 | I read his political notes every day. At least he's not silenced to talk about that | Feb 14 20:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The banks are gutting their other credit card perks I noticed. | Feb 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No more price protection anymore. I was hearing of people saying "I bought a computer and then it went on sale and my bank sent me a $200 check.". | Feb 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I got a few claims of that size in myself. | Feb 14 21:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They figure out what they need to toss you as bait and do nothing beyond that. | Feb 14 21:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it's the same with corporate cash going to the FSF, Raspberry Pi, etc. | Feb 14 21:01 |
| vZS1 | I boycotted the Raspberry Spy Foundation. They're never getting a recommendation from me ever again. | Feb 14 21:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In most cases, it's not much. | Feb 14 21:03 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: the latest response from them was awful | Feb 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2021/02/13/raspberry-pi-making-things-worse/ | Feb 14 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Than a Fortnight After Installing Microsoft Surveillance and Keys on Millions of Computers Without Usersโ Consent the Spin Comes From the Raspberry Pi Company (via Microsoft) | Techrights | Feb 14 21:04 | |
| schestowitz__ | I never expected it to be THIS bad | Feb 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | They are being OLPCd | Feb 14 21:04 |
| schestowitz__ | coming soon: a BETTER raspi | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | with Intel i-something | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | and option to choose between Vista 10 or "our own" Raspi OS | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | Debian renamed | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | exploited | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | with repos of Microsoft | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | so you get Microsoft either way | Feb 14 21:05 |
| schestowitz__ | it's a good thing that the SBCs market is rapidly getting saturated | Feb 14 21:05 |
| vZS1 | I have repeatedly told people that package managers allow things like this to be smuggled in. This was caught, not all of them get noticed. | Feb 14 21:06 |
| vZS1 | Use software with transparent make files or throw it in the garbage where it belongs | Feb 14 21:06 |
| vZS1 | There's no lack of options | Feb 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, which is why I've always wondered what else Google or Opera could install on your computer if you add their repo by installing their browser. | Feb 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They could just make their package depend on something else in their repo and you have that on your computer now. | Feb 14 21:07 |
| vZS1 | suckless tools for example are clean to build | Feb 14 21:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they get broken into, someone could use it to push out malware. | Feb 14 21:07 |
| vZS1 | Their obfuscated software is the malware | Feb 14 21:08 |
| vZS1 | That's why they don't want people to know how it gets built | Feb 14 21:08 |
| vZS1 | Deliberately making things complex just to create artificial work is another problem. If you can't settle on the source for a simple utility for over a decade you're either an absolute idiot or just deliberately complicating things. | Feb 14 21:10 |
| vZS1 | Web browsers are the best example. The source is pure spaghetti. | Feb 14 21:11 |
| vZS1 | And so are the builds | Feb 14 21:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: I was looking on Wikipedia, and it cites the Pfizer vaccine as about 86% effective three weeks after the first dose. | Feb 14 21:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Would it not just be better to give everyone one dose so that we could vaccinate twice as many people? | Feb 14 21:14 |
| vZS1 | They don't even use macros properly for their spaghetti builds. | Feb 14 21:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Assuming that these figures are accurate. | Feb 14 21:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://wgntv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2021/02/Cornoavirus-COVID-19-Illinois-State-Flag-MON-OTS-2-3.png | Feb 14 21:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there was this. | Feb 14 21:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz__: What I hate are all those damned toll roads. | Feb 14 21:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Going around them easily added another 20-30 minutes each way going downstate. | Feb 14 21:40 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The CDC says they expect the UK variant to go from being 4% of all new COVID-19 cases in the US now to over half by March. | Feb 14 21:48 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: let's try tp focus on tech | Feb 14 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | vaccines are sort of ot | Feb 14 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | and nobody here is an expert in that area | Feb 14 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | CNN isn't a valid source to me, it's too deep in bed with corporations, wikipedia might as well be gamed by PR departments of theirs | Feb 14 21:49 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: I agree about browsers | Feb 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | just building one is hellish | Feb 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | iirc, building chromium takes like gigabytes of stuff | Feb 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | that's just to get started | Feb 14 21:50 |
| *psydroid is getting hungry due to all the spaghetti talk | Feb 14 21:50 | |
| schestowitz__ | how would you even properly debug such a thing | Feb 14 21:50 |
| MinceR | :) | Feb 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you have lots of unpredicable web page | Feb 14 21:50 |
| schestowitz__ | can you tweak and debug for each bloated page? | Feb 14 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | firefox spies on users and reports to moz problematic/slow ages | Feb 14 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | so they spy to "improve the experience" | Feb 14 21:51 |
| schestowitz__ | and then look at "big data" | Feb 14 21:51 |
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| psydroid | what made things worse for me when I did still bother to build Firefox (on x86, PowerPC, MIPS and SPARC) was that the code developed violated my first principle of portability and patches were always needed to get them built on non-x86 architectures | Feb 14 22:05 |
| vZS1 | Mozilla are planning to put Microsoft tools into the Firefox build chain | Feb 14 22:06 |
| vZS1 | It's a lost cause | Feb 14 22:06 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/21020511 | Feb 14 22:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (5214612) | Feb 14 22:06 | |
| XRevan86 | vZS1: Didn't they just remove some? | Feb 14 22:06 |
| vZS1 | They'll never fix it because that's against their business model | Feb 14 22:06 |
| XRevan86 | what are they doing now? | Feb 14 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | github hosted or msft? | Feb 14 22:07 |
| vZS1 | The latter | Feb 14 22:07 |
| vZS1 | It's in the build docs. They state it proudly | Feb 14 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | yuck | Feb 14 22:07 |
| schestowitz__ | http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/ | Feb 14 22:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozillaโs Board | Techrights | Feb 14 22:08 | |
| schestowitz__ | maybe beyond repair now | Feb 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | for security they previously hired from MSFTR | Feb 14 22:08 |
| vZS1 | Has been for a while | Feb 14 22:08 |
| vZS1 | "security" | Feb 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | and that person then used Mozilla's hat to praise Microsoft for "security" | Feb 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | she later left or they got rid of her | Feb 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | I have never heard of her since | Feb 14 22:08 |
| schestowitz__ | about 7 years ago | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | btw, re raspi | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | look into their microsoft blunder 4-5 years ago | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | they managed to recover from it | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | undoing the whole "windows on pi" coup | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | so I am not giving up just yet | Feb 14 22:09 |
| schestowitz__ | but someone has to do something, FAST | Feb 14 22:09 |
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| vZS1 | You already need Python 3.6 to build Firefox | Feb 14 22:13 |
| vZS1 | That's the first red flag | Feb 14 22:13 |
| vZS1 | 30GB of free disk space | Feb 14 22:14 |
| vZS1 | Second red flag | Feb 14 22:14 |
| psydroid | lots of compute power | Feb 14 22:15 |
| psydroid | unlimited number of flags? | Feb 14 22:15 |
| vZS1 | 4GB of RAM with 4GB swap. Third red flag | Feb 14 22:15 |
| vZS1 | Dropped 32-bit support. Fourth red flag | Feb 14 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/4co7eHD2hJU | Feb 14 22:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tom Paris Turns Into a Salamander - YouTube | Feb 14 22:16 | |
| vZS1 | Clang instead of GCC. Fifth red flag | Feb 14 22:16 |
| vZS1 | Freedom my arse. And their concern trolling posts about privacy my arse | Feb 14 22:17 |
| schestowitz__ | [22:14] <vZS1> 30GB of free disk space | Feb 14 22:20 |
| psydroid | I already visit Techrights on Gemini first, but have to go back to a web browser for the latest articles and videos | Feb 14 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | !! | Feb 14 22:20 |
| vZS1 | Mozilla Public License. Sixth red flag | Feb 14 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: how often should latest articles be updated in gemini? | Feb 14 22:20 |
| schestowitz__ | we can adjust that | Feb 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | we already speak to some core gemini people about syndication (they have something similar to RSS but simpler) | Feb 14 22:21 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: you use brave, iirc? | Feb 14 22:22 |
| vZS1 | IceCat | Feb 14 22:22 |
| psydroid | schestowitz_, I don't want to put too much load on you, but maybe once every 3 hours instead of 6 would already be an immense improvement | Feb 14 22:23 |
| vZS1 | I'm going to try out surf from suckless, when I find the time. | Feb 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: use gemini | Feb 14 22:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | icecat is ff | Feb 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | falkon is ok, but uses blink or similar | Feb 14 22:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | lost track of which, over ttime | Feb 14 22:25 |
| schestowitz__ | qupzilla used blink | Feb 14 22:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | i do almost everything from qupzilla and falkon | Feb 14 22:26 |
| vZS1 | surf uses webkit2, I think | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | falkon on the newer OS | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | it's still qupzilla in repos of older LTSs | Feb 14 22:26 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. WebKit2 | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | same trouble as google monoculture | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | if you want the text, use rss | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | like quirerss | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | it's the best I have found so far | Feb 14 22:26 |
| schestowitz__ | it uses some webkit/blink/chr* stuff | Feb 14 22:27 |
| vZS1 | I still need a mainstream browser for some work | Feb 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | gemini is now fully functional for us | Feb 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: that's ok, gemini does not replace www | Feb 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | it complements it for things that don't do many POST-type protocols | Feb 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | or videos | Feb 14 22:27 |
| vZS1 | I saw the spec. It's good. Like HTTP pre v1 | Feb 14 22:27 |
| schestowitz__ | what you use webforms for doesn't have to be the same as where you get the news or read mail | Feb 14 22:28 |
| vZS1 | Single connection per request | Feb 14 22:28 |
| vZS1 | Plaintext protocol | Feb 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | netscape tried to combine mail and http | Feb 14 22:28 |
| vZS1 | Sane URL scheme | Feb 14 22:28 |
| vZS1 | These are all good things | Feb 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | you get to know personally the people in charge of it | Feb 14 22:28 |
| schestowitz__ | not some faceless and arrogant google staffers | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | or cerf | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | vint sold his soul a long time ago | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | timbl just lost control | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and stacked the w3c by passivity | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | being too "open" | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | he made a replacement, but chose Microsoft servers to host that on | Feb 14 22:29 |
| schestowitz__ | deletegithun | Feb 14 22:30 |
| schestowitz__ | *b | Feb 14 22:30 |
| vZS1 | I'm working on other things but I'll set up a Gemini client sometime. It's good somebody is tackling those issues in the server/client model. | Feb 14 22:30 |
| vZS1 | I can cheer them on at least | Feb 14 22:31 |
| schestowitz__ | not sure if you caught my firefox rants from the other day | Feb 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | for monitoring purposes on an old box I was programming ff for some cli stuff | Feb 14 22:32 |
| vZS1 | The curl author is busy shilling the HTTP3 abomination, meanwhile. | Feb 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | turns out that like gnome they abandoned many cli options that long existed and worked | Feb 14 22:32 |
| schestowitz__ | like they killed gopher | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | for no real reason | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | before they did ftp and deranked rss as priority | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 | Feb 14 22:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 388195 - Remove gopher protocol support for Firefox | Feb 14 22:33 | |
| vZS1 | Sabotage. Like they did with RSS | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | now ff comes with "kiosk" mode | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | no option anymore for fullscreen | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | or for windows size on startup | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | they just.... killed what already worked | Feb 14 22:33 |
| schestowitz__ | amazing | Feb 14 22:33 |
| vZS1 | They're busy shilling more surveillance with Pocked. Clown bookmarks. | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | [22:32] <vZS1> The curl author is busy shilling the HTTP3 abomination, meanwhile. | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | because | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 1) he is involved | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 3) he worked for mozilla for years | Feb 14 22:34 |
| vZS1 | Pocket* | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | 2) | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | pocket was proprietary | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | later they liberated it | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | but they do "big data" | Feb 14 22:34 |
| schestowitz__ | which means they'll leverage it in some nefarious ways and they already spam the users with promotions of it | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | [22:34] <vZS1> They're busy shilling more surveillance with Pocked. Clown bookmarks. | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Clown password management | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | trust us, not lastpass | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | because we do blog posts about privacy | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | and "bad actors' | Feb 14 22:35 |
| vZS1 | So they watch Pornhub too? | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:35 |
| schestowitz__ | Brendan Eich [:brendan] | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | Comment 21 โข 14 years ago | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | (In reply to comment #12) | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > The argument 'we're more afraid of the unknown attacks' holds little or no | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > water. You could say that about any of the other protocol handlers, or any | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | > other bug. | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | No, you're confusing TCB minimization with random bug fear. Security depends on reducing the size of the code that runs at high privilege, which must be correct for the system to uphold security properties. In this light, we have a lot to get rid of still. Gopher has to be considered along with other code for protocols and content types that are rarely to hardly ever used on the web. | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Having written this, I'll repeat one of my mantras: the web is too big to make easy generalizations about what is rare. One person's, or locale's, hardly ever used protocol or content format may be another's must-have. So we won't do this (remove gopher) lightly, if we do it. More in a bit. | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | /be | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Brendan Eich [:brendan] | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Feb 14 22:36 | |
| schestowitz__ | Comment 22 โข 14 years ago | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | One possible approach: rewrite gopher's protocol handler in JS. Anyone? | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | /be | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | guess what MOZ did next | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | BTW, remember what Eich is to JS | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Eich: "Not necessarily -- removing it and implementing it in a memory-safe language are independent. If we had the JS implementation today, we might not even be bothering to argue in this bug." | Feb 14 22:36 |
| schestowitz__ | Eich (later (same page) | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | I think since we have not landed the patches for Firefox 3 and we're approaching beta 3, we should not remove gopher from Firefox 3 at this point. Going by the (mostly unwritten) book, we should have removed it before beta 1 if we meant to. | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | But: in Mozilla 2, gopher *is* going to be removed early and only re-added via an addon. So fresh versions of this bug's patches, made against the hg.mozilla.org mozilla-central repository, should be attached, reviewed, and landed there. Who volunteers to take this bug? Benjamin, will you do it? | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | The ~212 people who care about gopher can then develop, own, and use that addon. | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | In the mean time, gopher fans: spare us more soap-boxing and special-pleading here, and be happy today. Gopher will be an option (not a mandatory part of the C/C++ "TCB") as long as people are motivated to own its implementation. But as we draw closer to Mozilla 2, if no one steps up and delivers the gopher addon, you have only yourselves to hold accountable. No more free lunches! | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | /be | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | BTW | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Firefox 2 still rocked | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | back when a real community promoted its use | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | some of my older sites still have spreadFirefox banners | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | which I've not removed since | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Eich: " | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | Don't look for premature decisions, do the JS implementation. | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | I'm already in favor (comments above) of supporting gopher if it's implemented in a memory-safe programming language, has otherwise light-to-zero overhead, etc. | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:37 |
| schestowitz__ | "Mozilla has obvious interests in dealing in good faith, and in JS as safer implementation (including netwerk protocol implementation) language than C++. Therefore I continue to conclude that we should keep gopher in the core if it is implemented safely in JS." | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | LOL | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Mozilla and "good faith" | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | like ousting their CEO | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | over his faith | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | and religious views | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Eich: " | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Why remove the C++ implementation of gopher before the JS implementation is even started? Wouldn't the JS implementation need the configuration table entries in the patch? | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | The point here isn't gopher _per se_. It's orderly work and square dealing. | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | Did a bug on nsOperaProfileMigrator not being tested, or whatever's wrong with it ("this code is all stupid") get filed? | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:38 |
| vZS1 | "Free lunches" says the people who would be nowhere without GNU software | Feb 14 22:38 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Shaver pointed out that I changed my position from comment 47. I did not mean to say Gopher has to stay in the core, forever. I was arguing for an orderly series of steps from Gopher in C++ in the core in Firefox 3, to Gopher in JS probably in the core, to Gopher in JS as add-on. But my comment 100 did not restate the last step there. | Feb 14 22:39 |
| vZS1 | What a bunch of fucking hypocrites | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I think gopher should be an add-on unless there's some massive gopher revival, which I do not foresee. | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Hosting protocols in JS where we can is worthwhile, but we can do it with gopher or not, add-on or not, as a separate exercise. My comment 47 threat to remove gopher "by Mozilla 2" -- meaning only the release where we break frozen API compatibility -- was intended to get people thinking about building gopher as an add-on, not into the core. | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I bet we are close to a virtual "Mozilla 2" with 1.9.3. We should think about it. | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Is it really the case that we require C++ as protocol handler host language? That would suck no matter what happens with gopher. It's not urgent, but I would be interested to hear the details of why this is so (if it is so). | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | This should definitely happen. What's involved, which bug(s)? | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Cameron broke it down more than I would have: we should not make platform changes that require rewrites from JS to C++ without some serious discussion. Add-on or core is secondary. Gopher is tertiary, but thanks to Cameron for being a good citizen here on the primary and secondary fronts. | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | " | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | Wow, I underestimated the role played by Eich in this decision | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | at least bugzilla shows the whole story even 14 years later: | Feb 14 22:39 |
| schestowitz__ | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388195 | Feb 14 22:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bugzilla.mozilla.org | 388195 - Remove gopher protocol support for Firefox | Feb 14 22:39 | |
| schestowitz__ | is anyone here an xfce(4) guru? | Feb 14 22:40 |
| schestowitz__ | I can't find how to force particular windows/programs to open in a fixed location of inherit a certain window size | Feb 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it's very easy in kde3-5 | Feb 14 22:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I used it a long time ago on an aging system that didn't run well with anything else. | Feb 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: that's what I do now | Feb 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | it's an old laptop | Feb 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | you can make it work with translucency and all | Feb 14 22:41 |
| schestowitz__ | and still it barely takes up RAM | Feb 14 22:42 |
| vZS1 | Use a window manager instead | Feb 14 22:42 |
| vZS1 | dwm and awesome are flexible options | Feb 14 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | I cannot change now | Feb 14 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | no disk space | Feb 14 22:42 |
| schestowitz__ | not even to run apt | Feb 14 22:42 |
| vZS1 | ? | Feb 14 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | it would run out of space | Feb 14 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | 1.2 gb partition | Feb 14 22:43 |
| schestowitz__ | ff takes up 200mb of it | Feb 14 22:43 |
| vZS1 | I don't think the code is even 50mb | Feb 14 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that system eventually got so old that I had to run Openbox on it. | Feb 14 22:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With systemd and stuff, I think the footprint of Bunsenlabs in RAM is now about 40% higher than Crunchbang. | Feb 14 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | there must be a way to pass messages to open applications in xfce | Feb 14 22:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Still only about 80 MB I think. | Feb 14 22:44 |
| schestowitz__ | gnome has some APIs for it | Feb 14 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At the time I had a laptop with 1 GB of RAM, and that was an upgrade. It came with 512 MB and Windows XP. | Feb 14 22:45 |
| schestowitz__ | you can even alter transparency from the CLI | Feb 14 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I was using it until 2014. | Feb 14 22:45 |
| vZS1 | DWM is 26KB | Feb 14 22:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Software has just gotten way too big in general. | Feb 14 22:45 |
| vZS1 | DWM is not too big | Feb 14 22:45 |
| asusbox2 | xprop -format _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY 32c -set _NET_WM_WINDOW_OPACITY 0xBFFFFFFF | Feb 14 22:46 |
| vZS1 | https://dwm.suckless.org/ | Feb 14 22:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dwm.suckless.org | dwm - dynamic window manager | suckless.org software that sucks less | Feb 14 22:46 | |
| vZS1 | You can run dwm without issue | Feb 14 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | but will that implement the functionality I need here? | Feb 14 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | I want to basically allocate parts of the screen to different things, then have them updated | Feb 14 22:47 |
| schestowitz__ | from a bash shell | Feb 14 22:48 |
| vZS1 | You can just keep tiles open to do that | Feb 14 22:48 |
| schestowitz__ | tiles? | Feb 14 22:48 |
| vZS1 | Yeah. Division of the screen | Feb 14 22:49 |
| vZS1 | You can also have entire tabs of screens | Feb 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | I need COMMAND [application] set [screen size/position] | Feb 14 22:49 |
| vZS1 | Each with different stuff on it | Feb 14 22:49 |
| schestowitz__ | or maybe for firefox to have cli option for closing tabs | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | ff fell behind chromium in cli interfaces | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | by basically castrating itself | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | removing options that used to exist | Feb 14 22:50 |
| vZS1 | UX | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | deprecating those for no good reason, not even security | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | year, YOU AXE | Feb 14 22:50 |
| vZS1 | CLI isn't UX | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | we remove things you use... to "help you" | Feb 14 22:50 |
| schestowitz__ | we are very "tolerant" | Feb 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe also remove accessibility "nonsense" | Feb 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | for "usability" | Feb 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | because "users are stupid" | Feb 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | "why would you want to do that !!!! ???" | Feb 14 22:51 |
| schestowitz__ | xfce probably lacks support for what I need https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/156435/how-can-i-make-windows-easier-to-resize-in-xfce https://mxlinux.org/wiki/xfce/changing-border-size-with-xfce4-window-manager/ | Feb 14 22:52 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xubuntu.org | Window resizing in Xubuntu (and Xfce) ยซ Xubuntu | Feb 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-unix.stackexchange.com | How can I make windows easier to resize in Xfce? - Unix & Linux Stack Exchange | Feb 14 22:52 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mxlinux.org | Changing border size with Xfce4 Window Manager โ MX Linux | Feb 14 22:52 | |
| schestowitz__ | they lack command-line APIs | Feb 14 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe I will find some firefox extension... if anything is left of those after they AXED XUL cox UX | Feb 14 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "unified experience" | Feb 14 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | "We're all the same" | Feb 14 22:53 |
| schestowitz__ | women, men, blacks, whites | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | disabled, enabled | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | we all have 2 arms | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | we all use the same sites | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | you don't need extensions, MFer! | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | Use POCKET | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | It's clown, it's new | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | we'll recommend to you what to surf next | Feb 14 22:54 |
| schestowitz__ | expecting all users of firefox to abandon extensions if dumb | Feb 14 22:55 |
| vZS1 | DWM is also not on ShitHub | Feb 14 22:55 |
| schestowitz__ | that's why waterfox exists | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | they try to impose what THEY are on ALL users | Feb 14 22:56 |
| vZS1 | And developed by people that aren't morons | Feb 14 22:56 |
| vZS1 | <2000 loc | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | it's like demanding that all dude start menstruating | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | *dudes | Feb 14 22:56 |
| vZS1 | Simple makefile | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | but that's too light | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | this machine has 2 gb of ram | Feb 14 22:56 |
| schestowitz__ | BTW, Falkon seems to have more uselful CLI options than latest FF | Feb 14 22:57 |
| schestowitz__ | https://askubuntu.com/questions/143376/how-to-change-the-xfce4-default-window-manager | Feb 14 22:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-askubuntu.com | xfce - How to change the Xfce4 default window manager? - Ask Ubuntu | Feb 14 22:58 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | XUL is still there, they just restricted it to internal stuff only. | Feb 14 22:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pale Moon removed that restriction. | Feb 14 22:59 |
| schestowitz__ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xfce | Feb 14 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | Xfce - ArchWiki | Feb 14 23:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | " Xfce uses the Xfwm window manager by default." | Feb 14 23:00 |
| psydroid | Firefox on Orange Pi from 2017 is slow and heavy whereas Konqueror is pretty fast and that's also with 2 GB of RAM | Feb 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz__ | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfwm | Feb 14 23:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | Xfwm - ArchWiki | Feb 14 23:00 | |
| schestowitz__ | $ xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/tile_on_move -s false | Feb 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz__ | $ xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/tile_on_move -s true | Feb 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz__ | oh | Feb 14 23:00 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: I still use Konqueror | Feb 14 23:01 |
| psydroid | That's the kind of hardware that was top-end for running GNU/Linux in 2000 and now you can barely run a browser? | Feb 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz__ | but mostly for social control media posting | Feb 14 23:01 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: system reqs to read 1000-word AP article: 500MB of RAM | Feb 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz__ | maybe more for images :-) | Feb 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz__ | with 1MB of JS to manage how the images are displayed | Feb 14 23:02 |
| schestowitz__ | plus social "Stuff" buttons | Feb 14 23:03 |
| psydroid | I hate the heaps of JS spyware the most as without them pages are often not functional | Feb 14 23:04 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1's approach is better for now | Feb 14 23:05 |
| schestowitz__ | at least I can quickly separate apart windows | Feb 14 23:05 |
| vZS1 | psydroid: you can't even get rid of a lot of the JS now because they create new tokens every time you load a page so you can't filter specific scripts. This is apparent if you use the librejs addon | Feb 14 23:09 |
| vZS1 | They are actively sabotaging efforts to browse the web without JS | Feb 14 23:10 |
| psydroid | I run Konqueror, Falkon, Netsurf and 3 different versions of Firefox side by side for various purposes and as of a few days ago also Kristall for Gemini | Feb 14 23:10 |
| vZS1 | I don't buy into the idea of a web browser period | Feb 14 23:12 |
| vZS1 | If I want a video I'd rather grab it directly via a torrent or something like youtubedl | Feb 14 23:13 |
| vZS1 | Same for files | Feb 14 23:13 |
| psydroid | I believe the web browser became important because the original idea of the web was subverted | Feb 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: thanks for the pointing regarding tiles, which I didn't know xfwm had support for | Feb 14 23:14 |
| schestowitz__ | I thought you'd more or less have to use the dedicated WMs for that | Feb 14 23:14 |
| vZS1 | Np | Feb 14 23:15 |
| vZS1 | Dwm still more minimal | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | vZS1: in TR we post non-embed links to videos | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | for gemini | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | for ipfs | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | and for people who don't want to cllick | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | but to open directly in media player | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | not a 200MB browser session | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | videos and browsers aren't the same | Feb 14 23:15 |
| schestowitz__ | but with DRM/EME that's changing | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | you'd need to have blobs inside standalone media players too | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | or use web 'standards' | Feb 14 23:16 |
| psydroid | I'm not familiar with Gemini docs yet, but if you you want to make them look "good" you just process them and present them in a different way, as XML+XSLT were supposed to do | Feb 14 23:16 |
| vZS1 | DEs are a bloatware scam | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | google/netflix/microsoft/apple | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: you could apply 'CSS" to Gemini | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | to make it look the way you LOVE it | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | but it won't be imposed by the capsule | Feb 14 23:16 |
| schestowitz__ | in amfora i have many options in the config files | Feb 14 23:17 |
| vZS1 | Screw the standards (: | Feb 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz__ | colours fonts etc. | Feb 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz__ | and the terminal session add things like "detect silence/inactivity/activity/keystoke" | Feb 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz__ | plus tabbing | Feb 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz__ | terminals have tabs ! the audacity !! | Feb 14 23:17 |
| schestowitz__ | never mind tmux and gnu screen | Feb 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz__ | choose fonts, transparency, apply styling, keyboard triggers | Feb 14 23:18 |
| schestowitz__ | all the amphora docs are inline comments in the conf file | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | the CLI does not offer much | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | amfora_1.7.2_linux_64-bit -h | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Amfora is a fancy terminal browser for the Gemini protocol. | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | Usage: | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | amfora [URL] | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | amfora --version, -v | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | that's it | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | -v, -h, and arg | Feb 14 23:19 |
| schestowitz__ | ~/.config/amfora/config.toml is where all the fun is | Feb 14 23:19 |
| psydroid | browsers also made the web an "app platform", I presume in part to get away from application lock-in on the desktop | Feb 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | yes | Feb 14 23:21 |
| schestowitz__ | zimbra was an early one | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | circa 2006 | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | back when they call it "ajax" | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | async BS | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | long words and acronyms/buzzwords | Feb 14 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The W3C HTML validator doesn't like techrights. | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | then came server-side crap like "Autocomplete" in Google Search | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | basically keyloggers | Feb 14 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some of the errors look easy to fix, others are just that it wants you to use CSS instead. | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | we read as you type | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | grammarly makes this keylogging "hip" | Feb 14 23:22 |
| schestowitz__ | DaemonFC[m]: yes, we had to give up last year | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | 1. twitter's fauly | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it has this "deck" thing | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | it's not standard | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | so if you want the site to supply a feature image you must deviate from specs | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | then there's the video part | Feb 14 23:23 |
| schestowitz__ | regarding CSS, that's the IPFS table | Feb 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | we did that inline because it would otherwise conflict with global settings iirc | Feb 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | and that little table is auto-generated | Feb 14 23:24 |
| schestowitz__ | tbh, I've quit caring about the www | Feb 14 23:24 |
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| schestowitz__ | use rss/ipfs/gemini or something | Feb 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz__ | www should go away, eventually | Feb 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz__ | for the same reason Micrsooft's "Alternatives" for the Web died | Feb 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz__ | activex and sending around word docs as "collab" | Feb 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz__ | you try to build up too much into a single thing | Feb 14 23:25 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you're surprised that people are put off, get fed up, and walk away | Feb 14 23:25 |
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| schestowitz__ | happened with many large software "suites" | Feb 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz__ | too much built into one thing and it became a bloated experience | Feb 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz__ | like 1GB of MS word to write a simple letter to a rep | Feb 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz__ | you could just use a simple markup doc or use a plain text editor, then CTRL+P, ENTER | Feb 14 23:26 |
| schestowitz__ | you don't need to wait for the machine to load or buy a new machine to write a f'ing letter | Feb 14 23:27 |
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| schestowitz__ | and not they tell you, "use the clown" | Feb 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | so you enter some site of Google or Microsoft | Feb 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "please wait" | Feb 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | "loading" | Feb 14 23:27 |
| schestowitz__ | and then this keylogger nee "application"... helps you type a letter | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and charges you 'only' 10 bucks a month... 1200 dollars in ten years! | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | to write a letter | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | and then you act all surprised that people leave | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | analogy: | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | ol' people | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | they collect things | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | their whole life | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | 100 paintings | Feb 14 23:28 |
| schestowitz__ | 50 vases | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | 5 bedrooms | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and then they realise, heck! | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | I don't need all this shit!! | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | Too much to dust off | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | so they start giving stuff away | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | and turn mininmalist | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | i.e. the very opp. of what they strive to become for life... what? 30 years | Feb 14 23:29 |
| schestowitz__ | or more | Feb 14 23:30 |
| psydroid | I explained to some people yesterday that I don't buy new hardware to run newer and more bloated versions of software I am already using, but that I would rather switch out entire software stacks including operating systems, if that's what it takes to keep the machines going | Feb 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz__ | suddenly it hits them... it's all just overhyped crap and I'm not taking it to the grave (and the atheists will know that regardless, what goes with you into the grave is just companion for a pile of lifeless bones) | Feb 14 23:30 |
| schestowitz__ | psydroid: all my machines are cheap | Feb 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz__ | some are partly working, or partly NOT working :-) | Feb 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz__ | but you find functionality for them | Feb 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz__ | until they die completely, like car write-off | Feb 14 23:31 |
| schestowitz__ | I've just configured our oldest laptop to drive two screeens with 4 browser windows in that, tiled | Feb 14 23:32 |
| psydroid | I still have some machines with 400 MHz processors, although I don't really use those at the moment due to various breakages (PSU, absent keyboard/mouse) | Feb 14 23:34 |
| psydroid | and a heap of broken laptops I want to repurpose some day | Feb 14 23:35 |
| psydroid | but yes, new hardware is in most cases overrated for home use | Feb 14 23:36 |
| psydroid | things should be made to be reparable | Feb 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz__ | some are | Feb 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz__ | sometimes the repair is expensive | Feb 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz__ | good luck fixing a VCR in 2021 | Feb 14 23:37 |
| schestowitz__ | tbh, this upgrade treadmill we benefit and suffer from | Feb 14 23:38 |
| schestowitz__ | suffer because it pollutes the planet | Feb 14 23:38 |
| schestowitz__ | benefit because you get very cheap second-hand gear that is perfectly fine | Feb 14 23:38 |
| schestowitz__ | I look forward to tomorrow's announcement | Feb 14 23:39 |
| schestowitz__ | regarding reopenings across the uk | Feb 14 23:39 |
| schestowitz__ | I want to get a good second-hand microphone | Feb 14 23:39 |
| schestowitz__ | you can get some stuff like 80% original price | Feb 14 23:39 |
| psydroid | I mostly deal with tech and for that I have found some good deals over the years, especially those cheap but good laptops I bought a year ago because they can't run Microsoftware anymore | Feb 14 23:42 |
| psydroid | I can't find them as cheap now | Feb 14 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz__ "good luck fixing a VCR in 2021"> They're all over the place, honestly. Cheaper to find another used one. | Feb 14 23:43 |
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| psydroid | another thing I've noticed is that x86 systems are getting more and more expensive for several reasons, which I believe mainly come down to 1) duopoly lacking true competition and thus exerting its greed 2) decreasing sales numbers, causing vendors to make up for income losses incurred by increasing prices 3) helplessness of the population locked into Microsoftware for real and imaginary reasons | Feb 14 23:52 |
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