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-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-not because you're a rabbit - YouTubeDec 15 00:02
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GNUmoonLooks like Google was down and no one could access their electronic life: 15 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Problems at Google on 14 December 2020 | DowndetectorDec 15 00:05
MinceRlooks like my "electronic life" does not depend on googleDec 15 00:05
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XRevan86MinceR: I opened my eyes wide.Dec 15 00:08
schestowitzgood downtime means "SRE" is overhypedDec 15 00:10
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schestowitzI did it! I quit TwitterDec 15 03:05
schestowitzlogged out and allDec 15 03:05
schestowitzit's just a bot nowDec 15 03:05
schestowitz Dec 15 03:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thanks for All the Fish and Goodbye, Twitter | TechrightsDec 15 03:06
MinceRnicDec 15 03:06
MinceReDec 15 03:06
schestowitzthat ought to also clear up some space/time, making way for better tasks (not checking a bunch of nonsense)Dec 15 03:06
schestowitztwitter was already getting really bad with the qanon dronesDec 15 03:06
schestowitzcomplete nutcasesDec 15 03:06
schestowitzand people who respond with one wordDec 15 03:07
schestowitzlike in FBDec 15 03:07
schestowitzno really intelligent discussion can happen thereDec 15 03:07
schestowitzit's design to click-farmDec 15 03:07
schestowitz*designedDec 15 03:07
schestowitzyou cannot even edit things there... in 2020Dec 15 03:07
schestowitzfact-checking non-existent or afterthought... which is why "Cheetos Nazi" and his cultists thrive thereDec 15 03:08
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search_socialwe also thrive on the fediverse just fyiDec 15 03:32
schestowitznoDec 15 03:33
schestowitzsocial control media as a modality is wrongDec 15 03:33
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schestowitzBTW, I'm waiting for my fediverse account to come backDec 15 03:33
schestowitzhardware issue crashed 2 weeks agoDec 15 03:33
search_socialfediverse single sign onDec 15 03:34
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schestowitzin 2019 I was VERY hesitant to join identi.caDec 15 03:35
schestowitztony manco (tmanco, made early bots for us) pressed me to joinDec 15 03:35
schestowitzlater I mirrored that account in Twitter using and similarDec 15 03:35
schestowitznot defunctDec 15 03:35
schestowitzlooking back, I spent weeks if not months on those platformsDec 15 03:36
schestowitzsome are offline nowDec 15 03:36
schestowitzit's outsourcing many people's workDec 15 03:36
schestowitzprior to that we were all active in blogsDec 15 03:36
schestowitzwhich were controlled by individualsDec 15 03:36
schestowitznot platforms or pods or instances with hundreds of people you barely know or care aboutDec 15 03:36
MinceR 15 03:37
XRevan86> I don't think that Debian supports any release for 8 years to any degree.Dec 15 03:37
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: You're forgetting about Debian ELTS, Debian's old as dirt are still being supported by Freexian.Dec 15 03:37
search_socialtechnically speaking blogs are controlled by your hosting provider not youDec 15 03:38
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MinceRwhat if my blog is on freenet or gnunet? :>Dec 15 03:41
search_socialis it mirrored between freenet servers?Dec 15 03:42
search_socialdo we have an open source cloudflare?Dec 15 03:43
MinceRi think freenet does that automaticallyDec 15 03:43
schestowitzMinceR: it's good they convert tweets to images. No cruft.Dec 15 03:50
schestowitzno comments, JS, Css etc.Dec 15 03:50
MinceR:)Dec 15 03:51
schestowitz[03:38] <search_social> technically speaking blogs are controlled by your hosting provider not youDec 15 03:51
schestowitzNot necessarilyDec 15 03:51
schestowitzsocial control media platforms are a pain to maintainDec 15 03:51
schestowitzand if you have other users you have higher uptime expectations/requirementsDec 15 03:51
MinceRuntil you get something that was re-screenshot, re-captioned and re-encoded in JPEG 50 times and you can barely read it :>Dec 15 03:51
schestowitzyou can run wordpress or drupal from a RaPi at homeDec 15 03:51
MinceRwell, then you become your own hosting provider :>Dec 15 03:52
schestowitzyeahDec 15 03:52
schestowitzfor low-traffic blogs the ISP would be OKDec 15 03:52
schestowitzwe cannot do this with techrightsDec 15 03:52
MinceRone of the nice things about it is that you could choose to have your blog on a more conventional host and also host a mirror of it at homeDec 15 03:53
schestowitzI look to me left now, techrights did 462kb/sec since SundayDec 15 03:53
MinceRsort of like what you're doing with IPFSDec 15 03:53
schestowitztuxmachines even moreDec 15 03:53
schestowitzsometimes it's like 3mb/secDec 15 03:53
schestowitzesp. if we post videosDec 15 03:53
MinceRyeah, video is difficultDec 15 03:53
MinceRi wonder how well peertube worksDec 15 03:53
schestowitzI tired it a lot last weekDec 15 03:53
schestowitzI recommended itDec 15 03:53
MinceR:)Dec 15 03:53
schestowitzblender is dabbling in itDec 15 03:54
schestowitzdebian project gave its spare (unused) Google 'donations' to itDec 15 03:54
schestowitzpeertube works better for popular videosDec 15 03:54
schestowitzwith few peers it'll buffer a lotDec 15 03:54
schestowitzesp. hd-levelDec 15 03:54
schestowitzbut otherwise it's nice to know we can load-balance among peersDec 15 03:54
schestowitzGoogle and ISPs might not like thatDec 15 03:55
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schestowitzupstream strainDec 15 03:55
schestowitzaspberrypi:~ $ ipfs stats bwDec 15 03:55
schestowitzBandwidthDec 15 03:55
schestowitzTotalIn: 63 GBDec 15 03:55
schestowitzTotalOut: 26 GBDec 15 03:55
schestowitzTechrights at 90gb now just for ipfs reqsDec 15 03:55
schestowitzand some people have pinned it also, so that'll be additional trafficDec 15 03:55
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schestowitzAriadne: when can you put aside a timeslot for attempting migration?Dec 15 03:56
schestowitzI figured, in case we struggle we can also just dump the VMs into the new hypervisor 'as-is'Dec 15 03:56
schestowitzbut seeing what happened to centos.... you know...?\Dec 15 03:56
schestowitzmy friend says he likes alpine, devuan and openbsdDec 15 03:57
Ariadnei have time this week, we're just in crunch time at work to make alpine 3.13 a realityDec 15 03:57
schestowitzfor servers, but you specialise in AlpineDec 15 03:57
schestowitzAriadne: cool, thank youDec 15 03:57
schestowitzthe critical bits are wordpress @ TR and Drupak @ TMDec 15 03:57
Ariadnethough the parts i am responsible for are completeDec 15 03:57
schestowitzthe rest are less urgent because their traffic is generally a lot lessDec 15 03:58
schestowitzsome people still moan about their "modern" browsers getting angry because read-only sites lack TLS certDec 15 03:58
schestowitz(which I think is almost a non-issue)Dec 15 03:59
schestowitzAriadne: BTW, href said the sites he runs will be back later this week. Meanwhile, I've made and improved my own suckless alt 15 03:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Social Control Media PostsDec 15 03:59
Ariadnethat is just a websiteDec 15 04:00
Ariadneyou should implement activitypubDec 15 04:00
Ariadneif you want a suckless activitypub server, there is honk actually.Dec 15 04:00
schestowitzthat would make it less suckless :-)Dec 15 04:00
schestowitzit was nice when we had it archives through irc over vieraDec 15 04:01
schestowitzthat should resume when href is done with recovery and db import, which he says takes agesDec 15 04:01
AriadneyesDec 15 04:01
schestowitzdaysDec 15 04:01 database is hugeDec 15 04:01
Ariadnethat instance federates with everyoneDec 15 04:01
Ariadnethere's hundreds of millions of objects in the databaseDec 15 04:02
schestowitzI quit twitterDec 15 04:02
schestowitz Dec 15 04:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Thanks for All the Fish and Goodbye, Twitter | TechrightsDec 15 04:02
schestowitzMany people don't know about this... it's todayDec 15 04:02
schestowitzno more web pagesDec 15 04:02
Ariadnei might give epicyon a goDec 15 04:02
schestowitztwitter is not a web site anymoreDec 15 04:02
schestowitz FSF should quit alsoDec 15 04:03
schestowitz 15 04:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Richard Stallman on Google+ and Twitter | TechrightsDec 15 04:03
schestowitzbut RMS isn't there nowDec 15 04:03
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DaemonFC[m]There used to be a Fedora Legacy project to make sure that got security updates for several years, but it was abandoned.Dec 15 05:11
schestowitzyeah...Dec 15 05:12
schestowitz 15 05:12
schestowitztask:Dec 15 05:12
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | It Looks Like Red Hat’s (IBM) Fedora Project May be ‘Outsourced’ to Amazon’s Datacentres | TechrightsDec 15 05:12
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: check what other sites have moved to awsDec 15 05:12
DaemonFC[m]IT doesn't really surprise me that Microsoft plans to implement Manifest version 3.Dec 15 05:28
DaemonFC[m]They obviously don't have to, because they have their own extensions store, but yeah...Dec 15 05:28
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if anyone except Vivaldi will fight that.Dec 15 05:29
schestowitztwo proprietary pieces of junkDec 15 05:35
schestowitzI saw ECT writing about itDec 15 05:35
schestowitzwe need to take back the Web or throw it awayDec 15 05:35
schestowitzbecause it became not only proprietary but DRMedDec 15 05:35
schestowitzthe last major browser that's freesw, firefox, is dyingDec 15 05:36
schestowitzalso becoming less free as in freedomDec 15 05:36
schestowitzso maybe the web in general is a lost cause nowDec 15 05:36
schestowitzlike whatever Microsoft wanted to replace it, Microsoft protocols for sharing around MS Office objectsDec 15 05:36
schestowitz 15 05:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@iridesce57: @schestowitz A Verilux floor lamp behind my office chair helped hereDec 15 05:38
*psydroid is in favour of throwing the web away and using a lean replacement that would also instantly make older machines viable for browsing that replacement againDec 15 05:43
search_socialgopher?Dec 15 05:51
schestowitzI looked into it last monthDec 15 05:51
schestowitzit has its problems tooDec 15 05:51
schestowitzI looked into about 6 alternativesDec 15 05:52
schestowitzspent hours on itDec 15 05:52
schestowitzfor now, ipfs seems to best suit our needsDec 15 05:52
search_socialor just html with js disabled?Dec 15 05:53
schestowitzI have just scripted qupzillz to open some pages every x minutes to show me changesDec 15 05:53
schestowitzsearch_social: it's like going to a steak eatery and order vegDec 15 05:53
schestowitz still offline :/Dec 15 05:54
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schestowitz 15 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Red Hat Layoffs - TheLayoff.comDec 15 05:54
schestowitz 15 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Let's double - post regarding Red Hat layoffsDec 15 05:54
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schestowitzHe said he'd double sales. Did not say he'd kill #centos to get there.Dec 15 05:54
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smnthermes> ‎[02:29:07] ‎DaemonFC[m]‎: I wonder if anyone except Vivaldi will fight that.Dec 15 13:24
smnthermesBrave and Opera (proprietary)Dec 15 13:24
schestowitzHow "open" is brave?Dec 15 13:25
schestowitznot a rhetorical question BTWDec 15 13:25
schestowitziirc, they use shithubDec 15 13:25
schestowitzand, there may be other issues. Blink is freesw afaik, and I suppose eme isn't 'supported' by braveDec 15 13:25
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MinceRafaik it's free software, but they use shithubDec 15 13:40
MinceRwell, at least as free as chromium is, anywayDec 15 13:40
schestowitzx 15 13:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Microsoft Deploys COVID-19 Vaccine Management PlatformDec 15 13:42
schestowitz# profiteering, surveillanceDec 15 13:42
schestowitzMinceR: it's a new sort of threarDec 15 13:50
schestowitzMinceR: similar to systemdDec 15 13:50
schestowitzthe "you have the code" lineDec 15 13:50
schestowitzopenwashing to make RHELDec 15 13:50
schestowitzand keep other distros behindDec 15 13:51
schestowitzwith edgy new releases and version inflations every month or soDec 15 13:51
schestowitzso RHEL is always ahead, like chrome isDec 15 13:51
schestowitzand to compile something like chromium or systemd you'd need a powerful machineDec 15 13:51
schestowitzI took ages to get all the systemd filesDec 15 13:51
schestowitzI think tens of thousands for the repoDec 15 13:52
schestowitzit's madnessDec 15 13:52
schestowitznot lines of code, FILESDec 15 13:52
schestowitznobody can properly study that and if it doesn't compile, too bad, good luck...Dec 15 13:52
schestowitzI think cubexyz once mentioned here what it takes to compile chromium (disk space, time, RAM)Dec 15 13:53
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "and, there may be other issues. "> It is. It asks if you want to use Widevine and then fetches it.Dec 15 14:00
schestowitzwhere from?Dec 15 14:04
MinceRand what if you say "no"? :>Dec 15 14:05
DaemonFC[m]From Google, obviously.Dec 15 14:09
DaemonFC[m]They were mostly annoyed with how long it took Google to approve them to license Widevine.Dec 15 14:09
vZS1If people here don't mind documenting the build process for their favourite pieces of software, I don't mind serving the instructions over IPFS.Dec 15 14:18
vZS1schestowitz: a lot of the time they keep some of the build automation a secret, to deliberately make building yourself very difficult.Dec 15 14:20
vZS1No license can save you from thatDec 15 14:21
vZS1I spend most of my time trying to weave source together, to paint a coherent picture of what's going on.Dec 15 14:23
DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "and what if you say "no"? :>"> I think it is still an option in the settings but it doesn't keep pestering you like Firefox.Dec 15 14:23
vZS1This is one of the primary threats to user freedom.Dec 15 14:23
schestowitztrueDec 15 14:24
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I think I just like Schwarzenegger movies a little too much. Whenever I'm playing an RPG and someone asks for a password, I like to say "Sure. Here's my password." and shoot them with a grenade launcher.Dec 15 14:25
vZS1Think about how many programming languages and build systems there are. Now, in top of those legitimate engineering complexity, we have to deal with obfuscated builds (I like to call this obfusbuild, like obfuscated JavaScript obfuscript).Dec 15 14:25
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: lolDec 15 14:25
DaemonFC[m]Mandy was laughing yesterday while I was playing New Vegas.Dec 15 14:27
DaemonFC[m]So these assholes were shooting at me and then taking cover behind a rock, so I was like "Okay, you have a rock and I have an orbital laser satellite. Shaboomboom!".Dec 15 14:28
DaemonFC[m]Fallout 4 just got really unbalanced and dumb.Dec 15 14:28
DaemonFC[m]There's waaaaaaaay too many mini-nukes all over the place.Dec 15 14:29
DaemonFC[m]Even a person who is terrible at video games can lob a mini nuke at literally everything.Dec 15 14:29
DaemonFC[m]In New Vegas, you can get mini nukes, but they're usually not just random loot and they cost quite a few bottlecaps at Gun Runners.Dec 15 14:30
DaemonFC[m]Not only that, but if you're not very experienced with explosives, you'll pretty much always end up nuking yourself. Dec 15 14:31
DaemonFC[m]IIRC, the only thing Fallout 4 did to balance the mini nukes was that they have an item weight. In New Vegas, you can carry as much ammunition as you can loot or buy. Dec 15 14:32
DaemonFC[m]In New Vegas, the missile launcher is better than the nukes because it always has the range to get away from you before it blows up.Dec 15 14:33
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: John handed me Fallout 4 on his PS4 and I think they really dumbed it down. Weapons are always in the default condition, VATS is so accurate that you never really need to use manual aim in real time unless you're just out of action points, and nukes are everywhere. To the point where after the Chinese submarine captain hands you those tags that can call in a nuclear strike, it's not even really much of a supeDec 15 14:35
DaemonFC[m]weapon.Dec 15 14:35
DaemonFC[m]The downside to VATS was always that it's not perfect. It's part of an RPG. It uses bullet time to slow things down and then it tells you what the odds are of scoring a hit, and it generates a random number based on factors to determine if it's a critical hit.Dec 15 14:36
DaemonFC[m]4 turned it into "Right bumper. Kill this son of a bitch. A button.".Dec 15 14:37
DaemonFC[m]I think things are getting dumber to make people who can't strategize think they're really smart.Dec 15 14:38
DaemonFC[m]Not just in video games, but in video games. Dec 15 14:38
MinceRvideo games in general are getting incredibly dumbDec 15 14:38
MinceRthey can sell them to more stupid people that wayDec 15 14:38
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, then they sell them at insane prices on Steam. I ran into this one they advertised called Haven, and it's more like a sci fi anime on rails than a video game.Dec 15 14:39
DaemonFC[m]Everyone was complaining that it's just a really awful game with good visuals.Dec 15 14:40
DaemonFC[m]They want $30 for it.Dec 15 14:40
DaemonFC[m]I got far enough along in the story to go "Okay so this is basically Firefly only these two teenagers ran off in a spaceship to escape their planet so this guy can kind of insinuate that they can lay around and fuck all day and live off the only plant that grows here apparently. NEXT!".Dec 15 14:41
DaemonFC[m]Perhaps unsurprisingly, the title screen says it was funded by some part of the French government.Dec 15 14:42
DaemonFC[m]And that's the thing. A lot of these "indie" games are even surprisingly more crap, somehow, than the ones from the big studios. Dec 15 14:43
DaemonFC[m]30,000 bugs and all.Dec 15 14:43
DaemonFC[m]The big studios put in just enough work that you won't go "I got completely screwed on that and I will never give them money again.".Dec 15 14:44
DaemonFC[m]Somehow, the planet in Haven was familiar as the one Rick Sanchez goes to take a shit on in Rick & Morty.Dec 15 14:45
DaemonFC[m]That's exactly what it looks like.Dec 15 14:46
DaemonFC[m]It was basically an entire game of press F to pay respects.Dec 15 14:46
thddxi loathe steamDec 15 14:49
thddxbut have an ashamedly large libraryDec 15 14:50
thddxdamn you factorioDec 15 14:50
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vZS1I play mostly indie games.Dec 15 14:55
vZS1There are a lot of good indie games around.Dec 15 14:55
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4760692)Dec 15 14:58
MinceR 15 15:13
DaemonFC[m]I replied to CDC on Twitter asking why people in their 90s in a nursing home are considered more essential for the vaccine than people who work in grocery stores. Dec 15 15:50
DaemonFC[m]It seems like wasting vaccines on people who are actuarially dead already anyway is sort of a bad idea, to me, if you have to triage.Dec 15 15:50
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vZS1vaccine := experimentDec 15 15:58
vZS1They're experimenting on the elderly and infirm.Dec 15 15:58
MinceRmissing ;Dec 15 15:59
MinceRalso, they have more to benefit from itDec 15 15:59
DaemonFC[m]Well, as a matter of policy that's debatable.Dec 15 15:59
MinceRgetting infected is more risky for them, while long term side effects wouldn't trouble them for as longDec 15 15:59
DaemonFC[m]They're dying in droves, but that's mostly because they're old and frail and about to die of something anyway.Dec 15 15:59
vZS1With the elderly, it's mostly risk management, I guess. Might as well try a prototype on them.Dec 15 16:01
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, if the vaccine turns out to be a major disaster, then they don't have to live with that for long, I guess.Dec 15 16:02
vZS1There are multiple prototypes being rolled out in the UK. Pfizer isn't the only provider.Dec 15 16:03
vZS1There's one from Oxford.Dec 15 16:03
vZS1I forgot where the third one is fromDec 15 16:03
vZS1I deliberately say prototypes because that's what it is, at this stage.Dec 15 16:04
DaemonFC[m]The Oxford one seems more dodgy than the others.Dec 15 16:08
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DaemonFC[m]MinceR: I noticed that there's a goal in New Vegas called Demise of the Machines.Dec 15 16:41
DaemonFC[m]Obvious Terminator reference, I guess.Dec 15 16:41
MinceR:>Dec 15 16:42
DaemonFC[m]You make progress on it by killing robots.Dec 15 16:42
DaemonFC[m]Pretty easy with lots of armor piercing 5 mm rounds for the minigun and a nice set of T-51b power armor.Dec 15 16:42
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DaemonFC[m]My character has 100 level on guns but only a 15 on energy weapons, so I stick to bullets.Dec 15 16:45
MinceR:>Dec 15 16:46
DaemonFC[m]15 is where the game started him on energy weapons. He can pick one up and shoot it, but probably won't do any good with it.Dec 15 16:46
DaemonFC[m]I never really liked the energy weapons on Fallout.Dec 15 16:46
DaemonFC[m]They're not really all that great once you get bad guys in power armor, which deflects most of the energy.Dec 15 16:47
DaemonFC[m]Power armor can deflect as much laser and plasma energy as it can radiation, so with T-45d armor that's 10% and with T-51b it's 40%.Dec 15 16:48
DaemonFC[m]T-45d isn't as advanced because it was obsolete before the war with China.Dec 15 16:49
DaemonFC[m]The T-51b model was the US Army's latest stuff by the time of the nuclear exchange.Dec 15 16:49
DaemonFC[m]Fallout 4 introduced the T-60 model with the explanation that the reason it was not in the previous games is because it was a prototype.Dec 15 16:52
DaemonFC[m]I wasn't really happy with the way the T-60 model worked.Dec 15 16:52
DaemonFC[m]You have to find these gigantic batteries to power it with and when they're spent, the armor doesn't work.Dec 15 16:54
DaemonFC[m]I don't think it balances the game out much because there are places where you can recharge the fusion cores you have at.Dec 15 16:55
MinceRsounds like the wh40k tabletop rpg-sDec 15 16:55
MinceRexcept there if you are a tech-priest/explorator, you can recharge them from your own implants :>Dec 15 16:56
DaemonFC[m]Well, the Commonwealth Wasteland (what's left of Massachusetts) has this area that's extremely hazardous called the Glowing Sea.Dec 15 16:58
DaemonFC[m]If you go in there, the radiation will kill you after about 2 minutes if you're not in a set of power armor.Dec 15 16:58
MinceRalso except obviously for the ones where you can actually play adeptus astartes, but i've never played thoseDec 15 16:59
DaemonFC[m]The whole point is that you have to stay out of that area until you're at a high enough level that you have power armor.Dec 15 16:59
MinceR:)Dec 15 16:59
DaemonFC[m]But, like with the ghouls and shit, that's not how radiation works.Dec 15 16:59
DaemonFC[m]It doesn't just linger like that for over 200 years after some nuclear missiles fall.Dec 15 16:59
DaemonFC[m]New Vegas has some grinding, but it's easy enough to figure out where to go and where not to.Dec 15 17:00
DaemonFC[m]Last playthrough I leveled up faster by using some mini nukes on some deathclaws.Dec 15 17:01
DaemonFC[m]They are incredibly hard to kill, usually, and at low levels you're not going to be able to control the launcher very well, but what you can do is ambush them from above.Dec 15 17:05
DaemonFC[m]If they don't notice and attack you, all you have to do is wait for them to walk below and fire a nuke at them. The fact that you're firing it down into a valley means that gravity will carry it far enough away that it won't kill you when it goes off.Dec 15 17:06
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XRevan86MinceR: Oh no, an actual fake %)Dec 15 17:44
XRevan86MinceR: This is IndiaDec 15 17:45
MinceR:>Dec 15 17:45
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schestowitz[15:50] <DaemonFC[m]> I replied to CDC on Twitter asking why people in their 90s in a nursing home are considered more essential for the vaccine than people who work in grocery stores. Dec 15 17:55
schestowitzIf the vaccine pushes them over the edge, "old age" will be blamedDec 15 17:55
schestowitzbetter for the statsDec 15 17:56
schestowitz[15:58] <vZS1> They're experimenting on the elderly and infirm.Dec 15 17:58
schestowitzMy dad took the flu shot months ago but refuses to participate in COVID experimentsDec 15 17:58
schestowitzmy in-laws are the same, not interested.... will keep distance for protectionDec 15 17:58
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vZS1schestowitz: I'd rather contract Covid than subject myself to an experiment. I'm in none of the critical groups.Dec 15 18:41
vZS1But coupled with isolation, hygiene, and wearing a mask, I'm not too worried.Dec 15 18:42
vZS1I feel like Covid numbers are inflatedDec 15 18:46
vZS1A lot of people probably died with Covid instead of from CovidDec 15 18:46
vZS1Insurance companies don't need to foot the billDec 15 18:46
vZS1Governments use it as an excuse to implement "Emergency measures".Dec 15 18:47
DaemonFC[m]This isn't the first time I've wondered if something worse is actually going on that they won't admit to or if it's mostly just an excuse for a power grab.Dec 15 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Or both, I guess. Both works.Dec 15 18:50
DaemonFC[m]The virus is worse than they admit and they'll admit that it's bad enough to grab more powers for themselves.Dec 15 18:51
DaemonFC[m]Remember how the Soviets handled Chernobyl. They needed a high enough death toll to admit to, but not high enough to reflect reality, so they said something like 400 people died, and that's the number they stuck with, even though it was probably something like 12,000 (or more).Dec 15 18:52
DaemonFC[m]As far as deaths go, the Coronavirus in the US is hundreds of times worse than Chernobyl. About the only way it's not as bad is that there won't be lethal amounts of radiation there for tens of thousands of years.Dec 15 18:53
DaemonFC[m]Remember that the housing for that reactor is all that's between us and the goddamned thing spewing radiation that's every bit as bad as it was in 1986. Dec 15 18:54
DaemonFC[m]And the temporary one almost collapsed before it could be dismantled and replaced with one that will probably last 200-300 years.Dec 15 18:55
DaemonFC[m]And by that time, if there are still people, someone is going to have to figure out what to do with it all over again.Dec 15 18:55
DaemonFC[m]All because the Soviets built a chintzy nuclear power plant with corners cut off of all the corners and had the KGB cover up the problems they knew existed all along, and then proceeded with an insane "safety test" using people that weren't trained for it, to disable several safety systems, each of which would have prevented the disaster. At the same time, because why not.Dec 15 18:56
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DaemonFC[m]It was a disaster that required bad luck, stupidity, and improper design, and it all came together. Dec 15 18:58
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DaemonFC[m]You know, like, you stop a car going downhill with one finger, if you react quickly enough, then at some point you just have to jump out of the way.Dec 15 18:58
DaemonFC[m]That's exactly what happened with the Coronavirus, and Trump managed to bungle something that would have been so easy to contain if he acted on what we know he knew on January 25th.Dec 15 18:59
DaemonFC[m]It's a bombshell like finding out about President Bush and the FBI's August 2001 memo.Dec 15 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Like, what part of virus that kills old people did he not understand was bad for his re-election?Dec 15 19:00
DaemonFC[m]If he wanted to stay in office so badly, he'd have had at least a quarter of a million more old voters and an economy that might not have been in the toilet.Dec 15 19:01
DaemonFC[m]I don't think we'd be discussing a president Biden at all if Trump hadn't totally shit the bed on the Coronavirus.Dec 15 19:01
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I noticed that just because you can still get a version of Windows 10 that doesn't limit you to Windows Store apps (S Mode), doesn't mean that it will be easy to run "classic" ones.Dec 15 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft has implemented something that's sort of like Gatekeeper on the Mac.Dec 15 19:03
DaemonFC[m]If you install a program the tradition way and it's signed by a developer that got a signing key, Windows will just go ahead and install it.Dec 15 19:04
DaemonFC[m]If you get "untrusted publisher" or an application that "hasn't been downloaded very often" according to Microsoft ("Low Reputation"), it will block it and bring up a dialog saying it protected your computer. If you click "Learn More", there is a "Run anyway." option.Dec 15 19:05
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DaemonFC[m]You can turn off "smartscreen" to stop Windows from blocking "low reputation apps", which apparently includes PeaZip.Dec 15 19:05
DaemonFC[m]Which is under the GPLv3 and hosted on GitHub.Dec 15 19:05
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: They didn't get their signing key from Microsoft? Now that's just embarassing.Dec 15 19:06
DaemonFC[m]Doesn't Microsoft charge them to do this?Dec 15 19:07
schestowitz[18:46] <vZS1> A lot of people probably died with Covid instead of from CovidDec 15 19:07
DaemonFC[m]So they have to come up with money every year or something just to give you software at no charge?Dec 15 19:07
schestowitzThat is always the case, but still, if you look at excess death you cannot deny it's a  fatal thingDec 15 19:07
DaemonFC[m]JWZ complained about Apple charging like $199 a year to be an App Store publisher.Dec 15 19:07
DaemonFC[m]They lean on you hard to not give away apps that don't make them any money.Dec 15 19:08
schestowitzfocus on that number alone, then you see overwhelmed hospitals (also something we can measure) cause additional deathsDec 15 19:08
schestowitzI can give you more linksDec 15 19:08
XRevan86schestowitz: People just trip and fall through windows a lot this year, nothing to worry about.Dec 15 19:08
schestowitzgovernments always like extra powers regardless, they don't need COVID for thatDec 15 19:08
DaemonFC[m]Windows Store apps have a lot of downsides, for both publisher and user.Dec 15 19:08
schestowitzvZS1: yesterday for example:  "With Sweden’s hospitals overflowing and the bodies piling up in morgues, its neighbors #Norway and #Denmark have offered to step in with emergency aid." Dec 15 19:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Sweden’s “herd immunity” policy produces disaster - World Socialist Web SiteDec 15 19:09
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: "both" – you forgot about the more important side of this relationship.Dec 15 19:09
schestowitzso you cannot write it off as hype and inflated, not fair to the VICTIMS and their loved onesDec 15 19:09
DaemonFC[m]For example, it's difficult to extend them or change their settings, because they kind of live walled off from the system.Dec 15 19:09
DaemonFC[m]There's a lag in getting updates, and you can't decline the update or revert to a version you liked better.Dec 15 19:09
DaemonFC[m]On Linux, a bunch of idiots got together and decided that native packages don't work well and there needed to be some screwball decision where apps came in that don't integrate with the system and are ten times bigger.Dec 15 19:10
DaemonFC[m]Even though native packages work fine and nobody has ever had problems with that.Dec 15 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is really arm wrestling people to use the Windows Store, and nobody really wants to do that. So you hit them with fake security warnings and stuff.Dec 15 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Make it seem like there's automatically something wrong with getting a package and clicking on it.Dec 15 19:12
vZS1> so you cannot write it off as hype and inflatedDec 15 19:12
vZS1I didn't say thatDec 15 19:12
vZS1I was just saying that some bodies are having a field day because of itDec 15 19:12
DaemonFC[m]Then if that wasn't funny enough, there's some registry bit you can set that unhides the old EdgeHTML version of Microsoft Edge, and calls it Edge Legacy.Dec 15 19:13
DaemonFC[m]Legacy. It had a very long legacy of like 4 years, you know. ;)Dec 15 19:13
vZS1Even if there is a pandemic, people shouldn't stop being critical of authoritiesDec 15 19:13
vZS1And there is a pandemicDec 15 19:13
vZS1I have followed every government lockdown instructionDec 15 19:14
vZS1But I refuse to be a guinea pig for a prototype vaccine.Dec 15 19:15
schestowitzBTWDec 15 19:15
schestowitzhours ago...Dec 15 19:15
schestowitzour restrictions were loosenedDec 15 19:15
schestowitztier 2 nowDec 15 19:15
schestowitzso some places will reopen, if this survived this longDec 15 19:15
schestowitzmany did notDec 15 19:15
DaemonFC[m]"Additionally, we will be ending support for the legacy version of the Microsoft Edge desktop app on March 9, 2021, in favor of the new Microsoft Edge. This means that the legacy version of the desktop app will no longer receive security updates."Dec 15 19:15
schestowitzlike some places we really likedDec 15 19:15
DaemonFC[m]That sounds an awful lot like it's going to be removed at some point.Dec 15 19:16
schestowitz"apps" are like thatDec 15 19:16
schestowitzI have no "apps"Dec 15 19:16
vZS1London is entering tier 3 tomorrowDec 15 19:16
schestowitznever go for anything that has "apps" instead of SOFTWAREDec 15 19:16
schestowitzvZS1: yes, I've heardDec 15 19:16
schestowitzsouth wales is also soaring cases-wiseDec 15 19:16
schestowitzmaybe bristol also, have not checked closelyDec 15 19:16
vZS1A friend told me. I don't watch the "news"Dec 15 19:17
schestowitzI've just recorded a quick video about linux.comDec 15 19:17
vZS1I look up the official government website for directivesDec 15 19:17
schestowitzthese take very little time to makeDec 15 19:17
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It looks like they're going to successfully call a Recall Election for California Governor Gavin Newsom.Dec 15 19:18
schestowitzvZS1: RMS said the sameDec 15 19:18
schestowitzI stopped tracking even just the "numbers"Dec 15 19:18
schestowitzafter 6-7 monthsDec 15 19:18
schestowitzI get on with my lifeDec 15 19:18
DaemonFC[m]Whether he survives it or not is an aside. It will be embarrassing and a distraction during a disaster, but self-inflicted.Dec 15 19:18
schestowitztrauma and panic are OK initially, perhaps...Dec 15 19:18
vZS1There's enough propaganda on the government website. I don't need any more from the "news".Dec 15 19:18
DaemonFC[m]He locks down the state and then has a maskless dinner with dozens of people at an upscale restaurant. Dec 15 19:18
schestowitz    Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 ⇨ •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines | more in          ☞ Dec 15 19:19
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vZS1I lived through 2 military coups and a genocide, I'm not really one to panic.Dec 15 19:19
DaemonFC[m]Politically, that has to be worse than just not doing a damned thing to begin with.Dec 15 19:20
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schestowitzsorry, my badDec 15 19:20
schestowitzI selected too many linesDec 15 19:20
schestowitzand pasted not one but manyDec 15 19:20
DaemonFC[m]I mean, the way this looks is that Governor Newsom will destroy the state's finances and economy, cause mass job losses, and then doesn't take the virus seriously at all.Dec 15 19:20
DaemonFC[m]Goes out to a fancy restaurant, which....How the hell was that even open if the state is under a lockdown order banning restaurants?Dec 15 19:21
vZS1schestowitz: is another one to be careful of. It's turned into a puff piece outlet for GAFAM. Nothing of substance to hackers anymore.Dec 15 19:22
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: CNN: "Trump threatens that he won't leave office!", "Coronavirus death toll skyrockets!", "13 million lose unemployment benefits at the end of the month!"...... Also CNN, "33 stocking stuffers you can buy on Amazon right now!".Dec 15 19:22
schestowitzLWN is still goodDec 15 19:22
schestowitznobody is perfectDec 15 19:22
vZS1I disagreeDec 15 19:22
schestowitzthey did a piece on Pocock which was nastyDec 15 19:23
schestowitzand sometimes they push fluffDec 15 19:23
schestowitzbut compared to other sites they're mostly OK.... mostlyDec 15 19:23
vZS1It's just regurgitated patch notesDec 15 19:23
DaemonFC[m]What's on your holiday list for the unemployed people who are dying and could possibly be ruled over by a dictator that is threatening to suspend the constitution?Dec 15 19:23
schestowitzI cannot think of many sites more credible than them... in that particular domainDec 15 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft Edge can give you coupons. They're almost like having a job, and heat this winter.Dec 15 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Save 5% on junk while you're being evicted.Dec 15 19:24
vZS1schestowitz: anyone can just regurgitate patch notes. That's just noise. People are just better off aggregating the original patch notes.Dec 15 19:26
schestowitz5-6 times per week they do articlesDec 15 19:27
schestowitzI think you refer to their daily picksDec 15 19:27
MinceR 15 19:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - See YourselfDec 15 19:27
vZS1It applies to everything they writeDec 15 19:29
vZS1The upstream patch notes + development conversations are where people should go instead of lwn "news"Dec 15 19:31
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has ruled unanimously twice that Biden won the election, electors have already voted, Mitch McConnell said congratulations to President-Elect Joe Biden, and they're building a stage for the inauguration, and Trump is still whining and claiming that it was all rigged. Of course, few point out he said the election that he won in 2016 was rigged too. He said it was rigged and he'd loseDec 15 19:31
DaemonFC[m]because it was rigged.Dec 15 19:31
vZS1They bolt on their own agendaDec 15 19:31
vZS1Cheeto Hitler got away scott free after impeachment. If anyone rigged anything, it's him.Dec 15 19:32
DaemonFC[m]Well, he is being removed from office, but yeah, he got an extra year after the impeachment that he did not deserve.Dec 15 19:37
DaemonFC[m]And they hurried to make the most of it before he lost.Dec 15 19:37
DaemonFC[m]And several pieces in such a big hurry that they were thrown out by the courts for not following basic standards of legal regulation-making.Dec 15 19:38
DaemonFC[m]The courts didn't throw out Public Charge and the new fee hikes for immigration benefits and H1-B visa bans on grounds where they could absolutely never come up again.Dec 15 19:38
DaemonFC[m]They simply decided that they weren't legally created by the standards of the Administrative Procedures Act and that an Acting Homeland Security Secretary doesn't have the authority to make new regulations.Dec 15 19:39
DaemonFC[m]The same standard by which Trump was foiled on those regulations could haunt Biden for years if he has to hobble around on Acting Secretaries. Dec 15 19:40
DaemonFC[m]The Trump Administration was so disorganized and dysfunctional that it was the source of almost all of its own policy defeats.Dec 15 19:40
DaemonFC[m]The Democrats didn't really manage to do shit.Dec 15 19:40
DaemonFC[m]At the state level, they really moved their asses to certify Biden's electors before the courts could stop them.Dec 15 19:41
DaemonFC[m]The guy gets by on being unscrupulous and not a hell of a lot else.Dec 15 19:49
DaemonFC[m]He's not very smart. He has a terrible temper and a toxic personality. All of the people who had to do his dirty work would piss him off at some point and get fired.Dec 15 19:50
DaemonFC[m]But the courts mostly upheld what he managed to get done. So if he had been smart and not foul tempered, he could have done far worse.Dec 15 19:50
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CrystalMathvZS1: the impeachment was bullcrapDec 15 20:20
CrystalMaththere is no way, and i mean no way, that russia had anything to do with TrumpDec 15 20:21
CrystalMathi calculate the chance of russia interfering in american elections to be exactly 0Dec 15 20:21
CrystalMaththey say that there's no such thing as truly impossible events, but Putin would be more likely to quantum tunnel through hyperspace than to interfere with american elections in 2016Dec 15 20:22
CrystalMaththat's how i feel about itDec 15 20:22
CrystalMaththere's no crazier bullcrap than "russia elected Trump"Dec 15 20:22
CrystalMathno qanon nonsense was ever that insaneDec 15 20:22
CrystalMathwhen Trump pardons Assange, you will know that you were fed lies, and that he was actually goodDec 15 20:27
CrystalMathmaybe Snowden too, that's also talked aboutDec 15 20:27
CrystalMaththe whole world besides a bunch of idiots in america was TERRIFED of Hillary ClintonDec 15 20:28
CrystalMathof course nobody wanted her to win, except a bunch of idiot americansDec 15 20:28
MinceRah, once again, gut feelings defeat facts and reasonDec 15 20:37
schestowitzTrump fights the "elites" and "deep state" :-)Dec 15 20:39
schestowitznot black people and stuffDec 15 20:39
schestowitzbut the rich and the armyDec 15 20:39
schestowitz:-)Dec 15 20:39
schestowitzit's libel to suggest otherwiseDec 15 20:39
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | From 'Alternative Facts' to 'Alternate Electors': Stephen Miller Pushes Absurd New Strategy in Face of Trump Loss | Common Dreams NewsDec 15 20:41
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DaemonFC[m]A French Troll and a Russian Troll walk into a German Troll Bar.....Dec 15 21:22
DaemonFC[m]I'm kind of stunned that CNN front page posted that Pornhub has deleted about 3/4th of the pornDec 15 21:28
DaemonFC[m]After major credit card companies cut them off because New York accused them of hosting rape and CP videos.Dec 15 21:29
DaemonFC[m]It seems the government has a big interest in internet porn after mostly ignoring it for decades.Dec 15 21:29
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Steve Jobs would have liked this, I'm sure.Dec 15 21:30
DaemonFC[m]This time it's the government knocking around a private company and not Apple (at least visibly).Dec 15 21:30
MinceRah, i thought it was because of his false moralityDec 15 21:30
DaemonFC[m]Corporations are trying to "clean up the loose ends" on the web, to get rid of porn and piracy shove in DRM.Dec 15 21:31
DaemonFC[m]Pretty soon the only things left will be Disney+ and Code of Conduct Reddit at this rate. Dec 15 21:32
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The far right is laughing about that superyacht that his widow is screwing around with a black guy on.Dec 15 21:32
DaemonFC[m]He spent a ton of money on it and never got to use it.Dec 15 21:33
MinceRhe still got off too lightlyDec 15 21:34
MinceRafter fucking the IT industryDec 15 21:34
DaemonFC[m]I'm not convinced that the Mac is much more reliable than Windows 10, actually.Dec 15 21:35
DaemonFC[m]After reading what some of them say about it, unfiltered.Dec 15 21:35
MinceR:>Dec 15 21:35
DaemonFC[m]But they go right on using it.Dec 15 21:35
DaemonFC[m]Say whatever you want about Windows, at least it doesn't have that pretentious snob vibe to it.Dec 15 21:36
DaemonFC[m]And I mean, fuck, even Microsoft Edge is a better default browser than Safari.Dec 15 21:36
MinceRmicroshit hipsters do have that pretentious snob vibe to them, thoughDec 15 21:37
MinceRthey copied it from their second favorite cultDec 15 21:37
MinceR 15 21:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4802610)Dec 15 21:38
DaemonFC[m]There are hipsters who like Microsoft?Dec 15 21:38
MinceRyes, unfortunatelyDec 15 21:38
MinceRi still remember 2 hungarian microshit hipsters i encountered on ircDec 15 21:39
DaemonFC[m] 15 21:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Deathclaw (Fallout: New Vegas) | Fallout Wiki | FandomDec 15 21:40
DaemonFC[m]These things are all over the Lonesome Road add-on.Dec 15 21:40
DaemonFC[m]But they're really not that bad compared to some of the other stuff I'm coming across.Dec 15 21:41
DaemonFC[m]That guy that hacked into the eyebot did mention that those tunneler things will end up in the wasteland itself eventually and not even the deathclaws would be safe from them.Dec 15 21:41
DaemonFC[m]Even with T-51b power armor and a minigun I'm glad I brought a lot of stimpaks.Dec 15 21:43
DaemonFC[m]An average deathclaw can take three entire VATS barrages of 5mm armor piercing bullets.Dec 15 21:43
DaemonFC[m]Which is enough to run you out of Action Points even with the associated perks that I have.Dec 15 21:45
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes there's 2-3 of them at once.Dec 15 21:45
DaemonFC[m]I have the VATS perks and the center mass one that does 15% more damage for torso shots. Dec 15 21:46
MinceRdo you have the Bloody Mess perk though?Dec 15 21:46
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I do.Dec 15 21:51
DaemonFC[m]So sometimes you just get exploding deathclaw.Dec 15 21:52
DaemonFC[m]:)Dec 15 21:52
MinceR:)Dec 15 21:52
DaemonFC[m]I sent one of them flying over a freeway overpass.Dec 15 21:52
DaemonFC[m]But it was dead before it was thrown over.Dec 15 21:53
DaemonFC[m]There's moments in this game where you have to laugh about things.Dec 15 21:53
DaemonFC[m]The Fallout Wiki says that in the alt-world history, when the invasion of mainland China started, many of the Chinese soldiers would surrender as soon as they saw American troops in T-51b and carrying miniguns.Dec 15 21:54
DaemonFC[m]I can kind of see why you would.Dec 15 21:54
DaemonFC[m]If one person in power armor with a minigun can lay waste to three deathclaws easily enough, then soldier with a rifle?Dec 15 21:55
DaemonFC[m]No chance.Dec 15 21:55
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: can you proofread something for/with us?Dec 15 22:04
MinceR(cat) 15 22:05
schestowitzMinceR: maybe you?Dec 15 22:07
MinceRyeah, i cantryDec 15 22:08
MinceRs/nt/n /tDec 15 22:08
MinceRargh, can't typeDec 15 22:08
MinceRwill i find errors if i can't even type? :>Dec 15 22:08
schestowitz 15 22:08
schestowitzcheersDec 15 22:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | On Our Publication Strategy and Platform | TechrightsDec 15 22:08
schestowitzsometimes double words.. "a a"Dec 15 22:08
schestowitzI wrote done instead of downDec 15 22:09
schestowitzthose sorts of thingdDec 15 22:09
MinceR'cash cows' -> 'cash cow'Dec 15 22:10
MinceRi'm not sure if "misleading the public by intention" is correctDec 15 22:12
CrystalMathschestowitz: name even once instance of Trump fighting against black peopleDec 15 22:13
MinceRthat's all i've foundDec 15 22:14
MinceR(seems to me "intentionally misleading the public" would be more correct)Dec 15 22:15
vZS1schestowitz: I watched the video on; it was a good video.Dec 15 22:15
vZS1What are you using to record the videos?Dec 15 22:16
schestowitzgtk-recordmydesktopDec 15 22:18
schestowitzMinceR: thanks, I will swap the phrasesDec 15 22:18
MinceRnpDec 15 22:18
schestowitzI write all my articles in a single passDec 15 22:18
schestowitzthen read through twiceDec 15 22:19
schestowitzheadlines 5 timesDec 15 22:19
schestowitzsummary 3 timesDec 15 22:19
schestowitzbody onceDec 15 22:19
schestowitzit's the only way to keep the site publishing fast...Dec 15 22:19
schestowitzwhen I say twice I mean first while typing itDec 15 22:19
schestowitzthen ghostreadingDec 15 22:20
schestowitzvZS1: we'll try to do 1-2 videos per dayDec 15 22:20
schestowitzlots of topics to cover that way, but for speed there's no preparation, just record, upload, linkDec 15 22:20
schestowitzwe can do collaborations, with some chat application inside the frameDec 15 22:21
schestowitzand in the background browser/similarDec 15 22:21
schestowitzmumble is, afaik, still audio only for many participantsDec 15 22:21
vZS1That'd effectively be a podcastDec 15 22:28
vZS1I can join in on the "podcasts" on the weekends.Dec 15 22:29
MinceR 15 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4800151)Dec 15 22:31
vZS1Holy water one got meDec 15 22:33
MinceR:)Dec 15 22:38
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schestowitzMinceR: vZS1 15 22:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Support Julian Paul Assange | TechrightsDec 15 22:55
schestowitzcan you have a quick look?Dec 15 22:55
MinceRsureDec 15 22:56
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vZS1> “health and safetyDec 15 22:59
vZS1Missing the closing quoteDec 15 22:59
schestowitztyDec 15 23:00
schestowitzI changed the summary slightly, for clarifyDec 15 23:00
amreo[m]Hi! I'm wondering. How does schestowitz avoid to being corrupted?Dec 15 23:00
MinceRi can't see anything other than thatDec 15 23:01
vZS1Yeah. Rest seems fineDec 15 23:01
amreo[m]Can I help the website by pinDec 15 23:04
amreo[m]Can I help the website by pinning the whole site?Dec 15 23:04
vZS1I'm off for the night. Gn all.Dec 15 23:04
schestowitzvZS1: thanksDec 15 23:04
schestowitzamreo[m]: it's not impossible, but you know the tricksDec 15 23:05
schestowitzusually coercionDec 15 23:05
schestowitzblackmail or bribesDec 15 23:05
schestowitz14 December 2010 (10 years ago): The #FBI Paid #OpenBSD Developers For Backdoors? Dec 15 23:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The FBI Paid OpenBSD Developers For Backdoors? - PhoronixDec 15 23:05
schestowitz"This is also probably the reason why you lost your DARPA funding, they more than likely caught wind of the fact that those backdoors were present and didn't want to create any derivative products based upon the same..."Dec 15 23:05
schestowitzthe gmane link is broken now as they disbandedDec 15 23:06
schestowitzamreo[m]: yes, by all means pin the siteDec 15 23:06
schestowitzwe need more nodesDec 15 23:06
amreo[m]How can I pin the whole website? Are only the IRC logs pinned? Dec 15 23:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Techrights Full IPFS IndexDec 15 23:08
schestowitzthe important ones are at the bottom of the pageDec 15 23:08
schestowitz 15 23:08
schestowitzyou can grep or tail themDec 15 23:08
schestowitztechrights-2020-10-26 to presentDec 15 23:09
schestowitzthose don't include attachments, e.g. videos, imagesDec 15 23:09
MinceR 15 23:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4793465)Dec 15 23:09
amreo[m]Why don't you setup a IPFS collaborative cluster? 15 23:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Collaborative Clusters - Pinset orchestration for IPFSDec 15 23:10
schestowitzI did not know about itDec 15 23:11
schestowitzcan you help with it?Dec 15 23:11
amreo[m]I'm not expert of IPFS or ipfs-cluster but I think I can try to help youDec 15 23:16
schestowitzthank youDec 15 23:17
schestowitzvZS1 is our ipfs guruDec 15 23:17
schestowitzmaybe if you hang around here for longer coordinating the setup of such a thing would be simplerDec 15 23:18
schestowitzit's still way above my head... I don't know many of the technical detailsDec 15 23:18

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