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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows/Screencasts: Linux Headlines, ArcoLinux 19.10.1 Run Through and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129315 [https://pleroma.site/objects/36912e93-c65c-41f2-8d76-5091ffa31c66]Oct 16 00:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical/Ubuntu: Design and Web Team, Ubuntu ZFS Support, Weekly Newsletter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129316 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3a6ec566-f092-4ac6-b70e-7321fcb371e8]Oct 16 00:23
oiaohmscientes: when it comes to software securety you find good published papers on software security you find them like at CSIRO and other government funded.Oct 16 00:33
scientesI have read a few vulnerability papersOct 16 00:33
oiaohmscientes: but that is not published on your open anyone can publish journals.Oct 16 00:33
scientesits just that writing a paper can be a distraction to actually getting something doneOct 16 00:33
scientesbut it looks like I have to do it real quickOct 16 00:34
scientescause this scholarship is biased towards biology/chemistry inexact science fields where papers are more importantOct 16 00:34
scientesbecause you can't just show people the codeOct 16 00:34
oiaohmGovernment funded for military usage equals lot of bureaucracy Oct 16 00:35
scientesand lots of pork :)Oct 16 00:36
scientesF-35 Lightning IIOct 16 00:36
scientesanyways, looks like I have to write a stupid paperOct 16 00:38
scientesotherwise I won't get this scholarshipOct 16 00:38
scientesits just that what I'm working on is exciting, but not that interestingOct 16 00:39
scientesBut lots of papers are like that....Oct 16 00:39
scientesand not even excitingOct 16 00:39
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Coming up on October 21: First Bug Hunting Session for LibreOffice 6.4! http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129317 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5adc178-e0b1-408d-8831-1053377d0def]Oct 16 00:43
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Python, Perl and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129318 [https://pleroma.site/objects/89059ad8-643c-4239-8402-91a4b084c507]Oct 16 00:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Daniel Stenberg: Me, curl and Dagens Nyheter http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129319 [https://pleroma.site/objects/395b257e-9477-4299-b669-b32a81643ffa]Oct 16 00:48
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Mozilla: Firefox, Monitor and Search Engine Add-ons http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129320 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a6ffc18f-cce8-4423-963d-d49c4330e7b9]Oct 16 01:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: GNU Debugger and the FSF Coup http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129321 [https://pleroma.site/objects/280507e8-c848-409f-94b7-aa247c616b0e]Oct 16 01:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Project Trident 2020 OS Migration http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129322 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d7f626cb-f1e6-4418-b194-f27d68bc8662]Oct 16 01:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Events and Communities: SUSE, Ubuntu and WordPress http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129323 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8fbbdefa-d364-46ad-949f-6a5543ad02ff]Oct 16 01:24
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Highly Threaded Linux Software Running Under CFS Quotas See Big Performance Fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129325 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c7b938c4-9fe1-4ee6-9163-7b668b49363d]Oct 16 01:35
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: [Qt Quick] Very Hot New Stuff http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129326 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2764f387-eb0d-42fd-a384-6b6936e16ded]Oct 16 01:40
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NuTyX 11.2 Available http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129327 [https://pleroma.site/objects/ecef6214-771e-4bb0-a544-e357b543849a]Oct 16 02:05
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Improved Security and Privacy Indicators in Firefox 70 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129328 [https://pleroma.site/objects/22608231-cb07-488c-9fc4-98f255a64b48]Oct 16 02:17
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Debian: Bullseye Security, Debian XMPP Team and Raphaël Hertzog's Work http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129330 [https://pleroma.site/objects/87dac745-eb01-4dbb-94b0-47dccccdc561]Oct 16 02:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: New "FUSE2" Kernel Driver Being Experimented With For File-Systems In User-Space http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129331 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6f2a6796-d464-444f-aa96-db0bc06e25fc]Oct 16 02:33
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux Graphics Stack: Intel, AMD and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129333 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fabaef2b-06d1-46ec-bc38-cd79c6ccde29]Oct 16 02:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Across Platforms http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129336 [https://pleroma.site/objects/547499bb-20ba-412b-91f6-db8d1fcf7d4e]Oct 16 03:07
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kubernetes at SUSE and Red Hat http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129337 [https://pleroma.site/objects/18104f48-10d3-427a-88cb-01270eab398b]Oct 16 03:30
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Programming: Python, LLVM and Erlang http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129339 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f9b41e69-abe8-43df-8d89-f23f93529b7e]Oct 16 03:51
schestowitz> Hello Rob,Oct 16 04:20
schestowitz> Oct 16 04:20
schestowitz> Congrats. Your article is in everywhere.Oct 16 04:20
schestowitz> Oct 16 04:20
schestowitz> Kind regardsOct 16 04:20
schestowitzExcellent, thank you very much.Oct 16 04:20
schestowitzI'm "Rob" nowOct 16 04:20
schestowitzapparentlyOct 16 04:20
schestowitz"Oct 16 04:28
schestowitzHi Roy,Oct 16 04:28
schestowitzStartpage was sold to pay-per-click behavioral ad company System1. This was posted September 28: https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/1260/17/who-are-the-owners-of-startpage along with a linked blog post article. No fanfare. Pretty much under the radar.Oct 16 04:29
schestowitzHere is a link to System1's revised website: https://www.system1.comOct 16 04:29
schestowitzI have not been able to find anything on Privacy One Group at all. I've checked the EU, US etc. Let me know if you find anything. Maybe it's just a name that sounds good?Oct 16 04:29
schestowitzI have resigned from Startpage, btw.Oct 16 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-support.startpage.com | Who are the owners of Startpage? - Startpage.com SupportOct 16 04:29
schestowitzThought you should know since we've discussed privacy and private search in the past.Oct 16 04:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-System1 : Welcome to System1Oct 16 04:29
schestowitzLiz McIntyreOct 16 04:29
schestowitz"Oct 16 04:29
schestowitzThanks for the headsup; if I do an article about that, will that cause you issues?Oct 16 04:29
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Making The Most of The Fourth Age of Free Software http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/fourth-age-of-free-software/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/f33850c7-becb-4d06-800c-7edbc40e0bbe]Oct 16 05:10
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Satya Nadella is a Distraction From Microsoft's Real Leadership and Abuses http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/satya-nadella-is-a-distraction/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/bc720a19-cc6d-483a-8cfc-be3c55da15a6]Oct 16 05:49
schestowitz>> From Spain:Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>> Hello Rob,Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>> Congrats. Your article is in everywhere.Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>>Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz>>> Kind regardsOct 16 06:02
schestowitz>> Excellent, thank you very much.Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz> Nice.  I used to read tech news from Spain until about 10 years ago,Oct 16 06:02
schestowitz> plus or minus a few years.  I got the impression that the EnglishOct 16 06:02
schestowitz> speaking news sites stopped covering regions within Spain as theyOct 16 06:02
schestowitz> adopted FOSS formally.  I hope it is the case that I interpretedOct 16 06:02
schestowitz> correctly and that FOSS is in common use there.  Extremadura was one ofOct 16 06:02
schestowitz> the more prominent geographical areas.  I don't doubt that M$ hasOct 16 06:02
schestowitz> probably fought there at least as dirty as in Germany.Oct 16 06:02
schestowitzSee this morning's article about Nadella. They do game the media. http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/satya-nadella-is-a-distraction/Oct 16 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Satya Nadella is a Distraction From Microsoft’s Real Leadership and Abuses | TechrightsOct 16 06:03
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schestowitzjagadees: afternoon...Oct 16 06:16
jagadeeshiOct 16 06:19
jagadeesgm Oct 16 06:19
schestowitzjagadees: Kuhn is out, ish...Oct 16 06:21
schestowitz2 days agoOct 16 06:21
schestowitzmaybe FSF realises the damage he did?Oct 16 06:21
jagadeesoh if he is the only person behind this then its goodOct 16 06:22
jagadeesis there anybody elseOct 16 06:22
schestowitzthe most culpableOct 16 06:22
schestowitzbut not aloneOct 16 06:22
jagadeesis there any chance stallman come back as president?Oct 16 06:23
schestowitzmaybeOct 16 06:23
jagadeesthen its goodOct 16 06:23
schestowitzhttp://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129321Oct 16 06:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Debugger and the FSF Coup | Tux MachinesOct 16 06:23
schestowitzgnu is still stallman'sOct 16 06:23
schestowitzthey even messed around with his siteOct 16 06:23
schestowitzseveral times, twice at leastOct 16 06:23
jagadeeswe want both gnu and fsfOct 16 06:23
schestowitzand he weathered  the stormOct 16 06:24
jagadeesits goodOct 16 06:25
jagadeesso that we got proof what these corrupt people doingOct 16 06:25
schestowitzbut worseOct 16 06:25
schestowitzfsf silenced everyoneOct 16 06:25
schestowitzsee http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/software-freedom-conservancy-versus-speech/Oct 16 06:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF is Not for Free Speech Anymore | TechrightsOct 16 06:26
schestowitzyou might want to write about itOct 16 06:26
jagadeeswe have to fix thatOct 16 06:26
jagadeesi have a lot of things to writeOct 16 06:27
jagadeesi expected this. but not in lifetime of stallman.Oct 16 06:28
schestowitzI can check the EnglishOct 16 06:28
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16252863Oct 16 06:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #metoo used by #fsf to falsely accuse FSF founder because #corporatemedia tried to distract from #billgates #pedophilia http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/software-freedom-conservancy-versus-speech/Oct 16 06:28
schestowitzwe need to write more about this...Oct 16 06:28
jagadeesi have a 15 article headings i wrote about this.Oct 16 06:29
jagadeesone by one i will send to you.Oct 16 06:29
schestowitzI need just new onesOct 16 06:34
schestowitzas circumstances have changed over timeOct 16 06:34
schestowitzhttps://stallman.org/notes/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Statements_about_Epstein)Oct 16 06:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | 2019: July - October Political Notes - Richard StallmanOct 16 06:34
jagadeesyesOct 16 06:35
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/meme-rms-gates.jpgOct 16 06:40
samiamsami just read this http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.htmlOct 16 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ebb.org | On Recent Controversial Events - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn )Oct 16 06:43
schestowitz\thoughts?Oct 16 06:43
schestowitzit's a bitvagueOct 16 06:43
schestowitzdid they kick him out?Oct 16 06:43
schestowitzDid he resign?Oct 16 06:43
schestowitzhe just said what happened 2 (3) days agoOct 16 06:43
samiamsamlinked from http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129321Oct 16 06:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNU Debugger and the FSF Coup | Tux MachinesOct 16 06:43
schestowitznow whyOct 16 06:43
schestowitzNOT whyOct 16 06:44
schestowitzask FSFOct 16 06:44
schestowitzsee what they say... if anythingOct 16 06:44
samiamsamkuhn's whole mentality is completely foreign to meOct 16 06:44
schestowitznot new to meOct 16 06:46
schestowitzI've regarded him to be an asshole since a decade backOct 16 06:46
schestowitzwhen he was on identicaOct 16 06:46
schestowitzhe would be a snob, never replying to people, and they too felt thatOct 16 06:46
schestowitzAnd he scoffed when we tried to shame GPL violatorsOct 16 06:47
schestowitzas DaemonFC[m] did SamsungOct 16 06:47
samiamsamhmOct 16 06:47
jagadeespls dont use bad wordsOct 16 06:48
jagadeesfight is not against people. its against the system. Oct 16 06:49
samiamsamwell all have holes in our asses, is that such a bad thingOct 16 06:49
schestowitzlike the f wordOct 16 06:49
samiamsamwe* all have holes in our asses, is that such a bad thingOct 16 06:49
schestowitzfreedomOct 16 06:49
schestowitzvery bad wordOct 16 06:49
schestowitzdirtyOct 16 06:49
schestowitzsamiamsam: some people are born without themOct 16 06:49
jagadeesif he was not ready system will find somebody else Oct 16 06:50
schestowitzthey soon die unless they deal with itOct 16 06:50
samiamsamanyway, it is true that resigning was the best thing for rms to do after the media witch huntOct 16 06:50
schestowitzso there are as many assholes in the world as people and animalsOct 16 06:50
samiamsamyou cannot fight a media witch huntOct 16 06:50
jagadeeswhen we focus on people we will miss the real problem.Oct 16 06:50
samiamsamwe're talking about an article written by a personOct 16 06:51
samiamsamnot talking about 'the problem' in the most general wayOct 16 06:52
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Meme: Setting the Record Straight http://techrights.org/2019/10/16/setting-rms-record-straight/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/38a8fde1-ed9d-4fc3-b605-d58100a8dad8]Oct 16 06:54
schestowitz&&Oct 16 06:54
jagadeeswe have to make it general.Oct 16 06:56
jagadeesotherwise otherwise it become a sectarian war. always there are good and bad with people. all have something to justify.Oct 16 06:56
jagadeesif we present issues generally then more people will accept it.Oct 16 06:57
schestowitz> x http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/4474245Oct 16 06:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.digitaljournal.com | The Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals - Press Release - Digital JournalOct 16 06:57
schestowitz> # RMS incorrectly named instead of Bill Gates.Oct 16 06:57
schestowitz> # the article has a contact address,Oct 16 06:57
schestowitz> # perhaps writing for a correction would helpOct 16 06:57
schestowitzI saw the same article about 5 hours ago and thought the same thing, but it was a pot-pourri of coverage with "drive-by" slander.Oct 16 06:57
*psydroid just thought that the idea of the Free Software Federation could be extended to tens, hundreds or thousands of loosely coupled organisations that promote free software with their own Savannahs, so malicious companies will find it impossible or pointless to attack a central pillar of the community as they have been doing in recent timesOct 16 06:57
schestowitzyupOct 16 06:58
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MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYHtojsaRkYOct 16 07:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Tandy 1000 - The best MS-DOS computer in 1984. - YouTubeOct 16 07:33
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MinceRhttp://existentialcomics.com/comic/270Oct 16 07:47
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-existentialcomics.com | Captain Metaphysics and the Swampman - Existential ComicsOct 16 07:47
samiamsamMinceR: nice linkOct 16 07:50
schestowitzhe always has good linksOct 16 07:51
schestowitzunless it's a snake eating a puppy :/Oct 16 07:51
MinceRlolOct 16 07:52
*schestowitz still remembersOct 16 07:59
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: No, Microsoft is Not an 'Open Source Company' But a Lying Company http://techrights.org/2019/10/16/proprietary-microsoft/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/ea24bbcb-1283-4ddc-bbfa-7391be4e870c]Oct 16 08:07
jagadeesactually the term open source is the lie, not microsoft.Oct 16 08:09
jagadeesopen source actually means OEM source software.Oct 16 08:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129343 [https://pleroma.site/objects/07d031a4-72ad-422d-a441-102220e89a77]Oct 16 08:13
schestowitzthat's one way to put itOct 16 08:14
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/tags/gnuOct 16 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-joindiaspora.com | #gnuOct 16 08:20
schestowitztesting: http://techrights.org/2019/10/15/software-freedom-conservancy-versus-speech/Oct 16 08:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF is Not for Free Speech Anymore | TechrightsOct 16 08:20
schestowitzI think my ISP lost the link to the datacenter, but it's accessible to the outside worldOct 16 08:20
schestowitzmaybe the switzhcing has done all wrongOct 16 08:20
schestowitzohOct 16 08:20
schestowitzit's baaaackOct 16 08:20
schestowitzyes, my ISP had some routing glitchOct 16 08:20
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MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/633202.jpgOct 16 08:53
MinceRhttps://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/07/28/89eb6869300e617f.jpgOct 16 08:58
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decnetping ....................................Oct 16 16:18
schestowitzpongOct 16 16:19
decnetHi there .. anyone using Void Linux ?Oct 16 16:19
schestowitzproject tridnt has just switched to itOct 16 16:19
schestowitzfrom pcbsd aka truOSOct 16 16:20
decnetYea, I saw ..Oct 16 16:20
decnetdoes void have many peopel working on it. The lead developer dissapeared for a year :oOct 16 16:21
decnetI booted Void from a USB, seem very responcive +++Oct 16 16:21
schestowitznever met a use of itOct 16 16:21
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schestowitz*useerOct 16 16:22
schestowitzhaha, even userOct 16 16:23
schestowitzcan't type rightOct 16 16:23
decnetWas browsing and watching a video, all run from the USB, what more do you need. A persistent boot?Oct 16 16:23
schestowitzanyway, it's IRC, very informalOct 16 16:23
schestowitzdecnet: serious question:Oct 16 16:23
schestowitzis COLA still goingOct 16 16:23
schestowitzanother question:Oct 16 16:24
schestowitzwho among the old regulars is still there?Oct 16 16:24
decnetHave no idea, haven't been therre in *years*Oct 16 16:24
schestowitzme neitherOct 16 16:24
schestowitzit was still pretty bad when I last took a lookOct 16 16:24
decnetAm never going back, a total waste of time!Oct 16 16:24
schestowitzit had its daysOct 16 16:25
schestowitzUSENET as a wholeOct 16 16:25
schestowitzpredating all this social media BSOct 16 16:25
decnetLike everything else, it lives out its usefullness.Oct 16 16:25
schestowitzone day it'll be FB's turnOct 16 16:26
decnetlosts of encrypted msgs on Usenet, must be usefull for the spooks?Oct 16 16:26
schestowitzpeople will realise it wasted time and makes them sadOct 16 16:26
schestowitzdecnet: it's a prioritu issueOct 16 16:26
decnetPretend online friends, they can go *fuck* :]Oct 16 16:26
schestowitzI bet they have more recent stuff to decryptOct 16 16:26
schestowitzand convict withOct 16 16:26
schestowitzmaybe pearlyG passed some kiddie porn thereOct 16 16:26
decnetNever keep your secrets on the Intertubes :]Oct 16 16:27
schestowitzGates wrote a message to that effectOct 16 16:27
schestowitzin writingOct 16 16:27
decnetWhat's a 'pearlyG' ?Oct 16 16:28
schestowitzSo-called "philanthropist" -- what Epstein tried to 'reinvent' himself asOct 16 16:28
decnetAh so !Oct 16 16:28
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schestowitzSo-called "philanthropist" -- what Epstein tried to 'reinvent' himself ashttps://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/scaled_full_88c995efd75e3880e633.jpgOct 16 16:28
schestowitzsee screenshotOct 16 16:28
schestowitzfrom NY TimesOct 16 16:28
decnetThere must have been great relief when Epstein "hung" himself in a cell with the CCTV not working ;]Oct 16 16:30
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schestowitzand guestbook onfuscatedOct 16 16:30
schestowitzand guestbook obfuscatedOct 16 16:30
schestowitzor something to that effectOct 16 16:30
schestowitzhttps://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.htmlOct 16 16:30
decnetand it took them till three days later to raid his house on that Island!Oct 16 16:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People - The New York TimesOct 16 16:31
decnetI'm turning into a total cynic!Oct 16 16:31
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/16257299Oct 16 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "“That’s M.B.S.,” he said, referring to Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. The crown prince had visited him many times, and they spoke often, Mr. Epstein said." https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.htmlOct 16 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- Photo by schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: https://joindiaspora.com/uploads/images/thumb_medium_1931fbb6f321a904cddf.jpegOct 16 16:32
schestowitzsee photoOct 16 16:32
schestowitz2015: http://techrights.org/2015/01/03/prison-and-gates/Oct 16 16:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thousands of Child Rape Photos Traded Out of Bill Gates’ Mansion | TechrightsOct 16 16:32
XFaCE"I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences." - GarakOct 16 16:33
decnethttps://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00098jbOct 16 16:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | BBC News - Undercover with the Clerics: Iraq’s Secret Sex Trade, Part OneOct 16 16:33
decnetback in one hour (approx)Oct 16 16:39
schestowitzkkOct 16 16:39
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schestowitz"The betrayal won’t stop with the Kurds. Every individual, everyOct 16 16:52
schestowitzinstitution, every government agency, and every American ally could meetOct 16 16:52
schestowitza similar fate. Donald Trump’s loyalty runs exactly as deep to hisOct 16 16:52
schestowitzfellow citizens, the rule of law, the Constitution, America’s bestOct 16 16:52
schestowitztraditions, and traditional codes of honor and decency as it does to hisOct 16 16:52
schestowitzprevious wives, to his former aides, and to those he has done businessOct 16 16:52
schestowitzwith."Oct 16 16:52
schestowitzhttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trump-betrayed-kurds-whos-next/600004/Oct 16 16:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Trump Betrayed the Kurds. Who's Next? - The AtlanticOct 16 16:52
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decnetPortable Linux with persistence.Oct 16 17:18
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decnetSaves me the bother of carrying a laptop round.Oct 16 17:19
decnetmpv running from the USB uses less CPU that the native Ubuntu.Oct 16 17:20
schestowitzvery niceOct 16 17:24
schestowitziirc you used to use public terminals a lotOct 16 17:24
schestowitzeven sent me screenshots as evidence of spyware on theseOct 16 17:25
decnetYep, it gets me out of the house :]Oct 16 17:25
schestowitz(not sure I ever published these; that was ages ago)Oct 16 17:25
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schestowitzis the eye OK?Oct 16 17:25
decnetEye, you mean arm?Oct 16 17:25
schestowitzmaybe I confuse two thingsOct 16 17:26
decnetit's bolted together with a metal plate, if that's ok.Oct 16 17:26
decnetIf I was in the US, it would have cost thousands, and they would have taken it back if i couldn't pay :]Oct 16 17:27
schestowitz                <li>Oct 16 17:28
schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/">2020 OS Migration</a></h5>Oct 16 17:28
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Oct 16 17:28
schestowitz                    <p>Currently, Project Trident is based on FreeBSD and uses the TrueOS build framework. Over the years, we have accumulated multiple long-standing issues with the underlying FreeBSD OS. Issues with hardware compatibility, communications standards, or package availability continue to limit Project Trident users. After many years of waiting for solutions, there don’t appear to be any resolutions on the horizon. To continue Oct 16 17:28
schestowitzto strive for the stated project goals, we have had to make the difficult decision to shift our focus and move to an operating system that better suits what Project Trident is trying to deliver to our users. </p>Oct 16 17:28
schestowitz                    <p>[...] </p>Oct 16 17:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-project-trident.org | 2020 OS Migration :: Project TridentOct 16 17:28
schestowitz                    <p>After several months of examination and testing of the various operating systems that are available right now, we have reached a conclusion. Project Trident will rebasing with Void Linux. </p></blockquote></li>Oct 16 17:28
decnetHow many people work on Void, what happens if the lead developer conks out :]Oct 16 17:30
schestowitzno distro is an islandOct 16 17:30
schestowitzif they can leap from bsds to gnus and linuxes, then they can swap distro bases easilyOct 16 17:30
decnetIs Void based on Debian minus systemd and a different package manager?Oct 16 17:31
decnetI tried it out last night, got mpv, Chrome and a few other packages installed, no persistence though.Oct 16 17:31
decnetVery responsive!Oct 16 17:32
schestowitzgood to knowOct 16 17:33
schestowitzI used Mint live CDs around 2011Oct 16 17:33
schestowitzsince then no portable distrosOct 16 17:33
decnetdoesn't SuSE allow you to roll your own into a customized ISO?Oct 16 17:35
decnetI got the 'Raspberry Pi' OS running off a USB, some time back.Oct 16 17:37
XRevan86decnet: Void is not based on anything, you're confusing it with Devuan.Oct 16 17:37
decnetXRevan86: didn't know that ..Oct 16 17:38
decnetI'm thinking of making my own customized CD, that'll ftp down the home directory on boot and upload the home directory on shutdown, that'll be truely portable.Oct 16 17:39
decnetPersistence works using an overlay, which is a bit of a hack, and fails if you unplug the USB without shuttingdown. you have to fsck the USB on a working machine.Oct 16 17:42
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decnetThe simplest solution is that have a workstation providing a screen+keyboard+mouse+Internet and you plug your own computer in and get working. No servers to secure and maintenance free.Oct 16 17:45
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat: Puff Pieces, OpenStack, OpenShift, CodeReady and More http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129360 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8421512c-800b-4a62-8f87-7da62a65f069]Oct 16 17:46
decnetA full working system would fit in one of those google dongles you plug into your flatscreen to watch Internet videos, what are they called again?Oct 16 17:46
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Some nice widgets for your Plasma desktop http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129355 [https://pleroma.site/objects/e1b31c47-286f-4f30-9a41-cf3cd519b75d]Oct 16 17:48
decnetSpeaking of operations: If the operation don't kill you then the anaesthetic will, if the anaesthetic don't kill you then the infection will :]Oct 16 17:49
decnetOr else your long-term memory is compromised.Oct 16 17:49
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Freespire 5.0 Linux OS Is Out with Linux Kernel 5.0, Based on Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129358 [https://pleroma.site/objects/90e7dc91-7aec-423c-95fd-3b4724a4b3af]Oct 16 17:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: A Quick Look At EXT4 vs. ZFS Performance On Ubuntu 19.10 With An NVMe SSD http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129359 [https://pleroma.site/objects/2cf23c4c-88dc-4ac4-b8cd-a29cebd5fc01]Oct 16 17:53
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Purism Partners with Halo Privacy to Bring Extra Security to Its Linux Devices http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/129362 [https://pleroma.site/objects/766e0b3e-e5f0-49bb-9a43-19069aba1f1c]Oct 16 17:58
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decnetHello checko ...Oct 16 18:10
checkohello decnetOct 16 18:10
decnetkinda quite round here ...Oct 16 18:11
checkoyes it isOct 16 18:12
checkoit often isOct 16 18:12
checkoand when there some conversation, I don't understand Oct 16 18:13
checkololOct 16 18:13
decnetWhat distro do you use, do you work in IT or student?Oct 16 18:13
checkoI use puppylinux right nowOct 16 18:13
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checkoat work I have to use windows 10Oct 16 18:14
checkoI am datamanagerOct 16 18:14
checkoIT userOct 16 18:14
checkoand you?Oct 16 18:14
decnet'Data manager', you file records :]Oct 16 18:15
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checkoyes, or make reportsOct 16 18:15
decnetI am a former IT techie, who got out because I got bored with doing the same thing over-and-over anain, like Groundhog Day, only with computers :]Oct 16 18:16
checkoI rather like itOct 16 18:16
decnetSeriously, i've seen peopel print stuff out, then cross the room and type it al back in a gain.Oct 16 18:16
checkoI am between the real users and the techiesOct 16 18:17
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decnetThe IT department ran well except when you were bothered by the end users :]Oct 16 18:17
checkobetween people who take samples and database adminsOct 16 18:17
checkoI suppose I can understandOct 16 18:18
decnetI had to deal with senior management idiots.Oct 16 18:18
checkowhat are you doing now?Oct 16 18:19
decnetI now am a night manager in a tourist hostel.Oct 16 18:20
decnetThat way I don't have to deal with the guests :]Oct 16 18:20
checkookay, very differentOct 16 18:20
checko:)Oct 16 18:20
decnetAs i said, IT doesn't enthuse me like it once did.Oct 16 18:20
checkofor me it is not all ITOct 16 18:21
decnetSome time back, I also did call center telephone tech support.Oct 16 18:21
checkoI also have to know about the contentOct 16 18:21
checkoquality of waterOct 16 18:21
decnetIf you stuck it out for ten months, then you got promoted off the telephones!Oct 16 18:22
decnetwater?Oct 16 18:22
checkoyes, in rivers and lakesOct 16 18:23
decnetTables of data?Oct 16 18:23
checkobiology, pollution, legislationOct 16 18:23
checkoyes, a lot of tablesOct 16 18:23
checkocalculations and reportingOct 16 18:23
decnetDoes it gave different answers depending on the platform OS?Oct 16 18:23
decnetLike those scientists discovered recently?Oct 16 18:24
checkohow do you mean?Oct 16 18:24
decnetGive me a moment, i'll look it up ... brbOct 16 18:24
checkookayOct 16 18:24
decnethttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/15/bug_python_scripts/Oct 16 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.co.uk | Chemists bitten by Python scripts: How different OSes produced different results during test number-crunching • The RegisterOct 16 18:25
decnetMe, I would have fed the script known data and then compared the results!Oct 16 18:26
checkowe have to be carefull with results from some labs, because of the way numbers are storedOct 16 18:29
decnet[I also worked in Internet Cafes, back when they were a thing, friday we did an all night games session.]Oct 16 18:29
decnetYes, it's call floating point errors!Oct 16 18:29
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checkoexactlyOct 16 18:29
checkowhat distro are you on?Oct 16 18:30
decnetfor amusement I would run a number through an equation and then unwind it, the number was never the exact same.Oct 16 18:31
checko:-)Oct 16 18:31
decnetLubuntu, possibly moving to 'Void Linux'Oct 16 18:31
checkookayOct 16 18:32
checkoyou know Puppy?Oct 16 18:32
checkopuppylinuxOct 16 18:32
decnetNot familiar with Puppy.Oct 16 18:32
checkoIt uses the packages of other distrosOct 16 18:32
checkowell it canOct 16 18:32
checkothere is now an experimental build for voidOct 16 18:33
decnetI like a minilalist distor, small and fast and a simple clean desktop.Oct 16 18:33
checkome tooOct 16 18:33
decnetWhat does Puppy have to offer that the others don't/Oct 16 18:34
checkohmmmOct 16 18:34
decnetdoes it do persistent?Oct 16 18:34
checkoit is layeredOct 16 18:34
checkoyes it has savefile or save directoryOct 16 18:35
checkovery easy to installOct 16 18:35
decnetYea, layered I've read about.Oct 16 18:35
checkoruns in ram (if possible)Oct 16 18:35
decnetWhat package manager?Oct 16 18:35
checkounbreakable, so fun to try to break itOct 16 18:36
checkoit's own puppy package managerOct 16 18:36
decnethow many developers, what happens if he conks out :]Oct 16 18:36
checkoand some others in developmentOct 16 18:36
checkoit is quite anarchisticOct 16 18:37
decnetNeed to leak .. back in 10mOct 16 18:37
checkookayOct 16 18:37
decnetanarchistic .. explain?Oct 16 18:44
checkothere are a lot of flavoursOct 16 18:44
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decnetPuppy slackware?Oct 16 18:45
checkoor ubuntu or debianOct 16 18:45
decnet"Puppy Linux Woof-CE" sounds interesting.Oct 16 18:46
checkothere are also "dogs"Oct 16 18:46
checkoyes, woof CE is the central build systemOct 16 18:46
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checkothere are maybe 15 devs that contributeOct 16 18:47
checkothere are maybe 5000 Puppy flavours builtOct 16 18:48
decnetIt sure is anarchistic.Oct 16 18:49
checkodifferent apps, different packages distro, different WM...Oct 16 18:49
checkoyes, I love itOct 16 18:49
checkothe forum is very vibrant and friendlyOct 16 18:49
checkoa lot of emperimentsOct 16 18:50
checkoexperimentsOct 16 18:50
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checkoPuppy is a good star to understand the workings of linuxOct 16 18:51
decnetWell, I want a distro that I can install and run with the least amount of effort.Oct 16 18:51
checkojust 4 files to copyOct 16 18:51
decnetI have delved under the hood and compiled apps from source.Oct 16 18:51
decnetI was on SuSe linux until I got bumped off the forum for asking questions!Oct 16 18:52
checko:DOct 16 18:52
checkosorryOct 16 18:52
decnetI'm notOct 16 18:52
checkoanother thing: Puppy runs as rootOct 16 18:53
checkoso you can do whatever you want, you are master!Oct 16 18:53
decnetWhy run as root, can you add another user?Oct 16 18:53
checkoyou canOct 16 18:53
checkobut why?Oct 16 18:53
checkoit is single user thoughOct 16 18:54
decnetWell using the gui file manager as root, and you can drag-and-drop the root directory into /tmp :]Oct 16 18:54
checkobut you can have another pupsave for another userOct 16 18:54
decnetdisaster just a mouse-click away :]Oct 16 18:54
checkoyou have to know what you are doing in Puppy :-)Oct 16 18:55
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checkoyou are your own guardianOct 16 18:55
decnetNever login as root unless absolutely necessary to do maintenance.Oct 16 18:55
checkoif you do some stupid thing in PuppyOct 16 18:56
decnetNever do maintenance, late at night when you are pissed :]Oct 16 18:56
checkoyou can easily reinstall, just 5 minutes maxOct 16 18:56
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checkoyou cannot destroy the Puppy itselfOct 16 18:58
checkothese layers are read onlyOct 16 18:58
checkoand you can set Puppy not to save changes unless you askOct 16 18:59
decnetWell, I'm currently checking out 'Void Linux' .. will have  to give 'Puppy Linux' a miss for the moment.Oct 16 19:00
checkoI think void is interesting tooOct 16 19:01
decnetRuns pretty responsively.Oct 16 19:02
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checkohow old is your machine?Oct 16 19:03
decnetIt's cobbled together from new and used parts, bas system must be five years, added an SSD and a video card and ram.Oct 16 19:04
checkosounds pretty powerfullOct 16 19:05
checkoEFI?Oct 16 19:05
decnetnot EFI, could update the bios but don't want to brick it.Oct 16 19:06
checkosure, there is now gain in EFI on a house computerOct 16 19:07
decnetPlaying x265 under MPV uses a lot of CPU time comapred to x264.Oct 16 19:07
decnetx265 videos.Oct 16 19:08
checkoI don't know the differenceOct 16 19:08
decnetx265 newer more efficient video compression, needs more procession power.Oct 16 19:09
decnetto decompress.Oct 16 19:09
decnetolder games run ok.Oct 16 19:10
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decnetI installed PlayonLiunux, then installed the windows version of Steam and got Quake and HalfLife running.Oct 16 19:10
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checkookayOct 16 19:10
checkowhat grphic card?Oct 16 19:11
checkois your graphic card used by you OS?Oct 16 19:12
checkoright drivers?Oct 16 19:12
decnetnvidia clone, give me a moment.Oct 16 19:12
decnetNvidia device driver.Oct 16 19:13
checkoclone?Oct 16 19:14
checkoyou are on void?Oct 16 19:14
decnetRight now am on Lubuntu, was testing Void on a USB.Oct 16 19:14
checkoLubuntu installs the right driver I thinkOct 16 19:15
checkois it Optimus?Oct 16 19:15
decnetWell it installs the nouveau driver, but I manually installed the Nvidia driver, assuming it would be more efficientOct 16 19:16
checkoit should beOct 16 19:16
decnetAn old GeForce card.Oct 16 19:16
checkookayOct 16 19:17
checkoare you sure it uses the nvidia driver?Oct 16 19:17
decnetIt's not worth upgrading, am moving to a better machine in the near future.Oct 16 19:17
checkoin Puppy you notice the difference very wellOct 16 19:17
decnet"are you sure it uses the nvidia driver?" definitely.Oct 16 19:18
checkookayOct 16 19:18
checkoplanning to invest, are you?Oct 16 19:19
decnetNot by much.Oct 16 19:19
checkoI do not game, so I don't need better machine Oct 16 19:20
checkogot a new one 3 years ago, i5Oct 16 19:20
checkoI still have a 11y old machine running as wellOct 16 19:21
checkoand on the atttic I have a amd from 2000Oct 16 19:22
decnetThis has an old AMD processor, luckily it's immune to the spectre bug :]Oct 16 19:22
checkoI would love to use it again if I had the place downstairsOct 16 19:22
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checko:-)Oct 16 19:23
checkoPalomino is the amd cpuOct 16 19:23
checkonvidia card needs legacy 81 driver :-)Oct 16 19:24
checkosse, no sse2, that's a challengeOct 16 19:24
decnetnothing wrong with legacy, if it works - it works.Oct 16 19:25
checkototally agree!Oct 16 19:25
checkoI see "tor" in your whoisOct 16 19:26
checkoare you using Tor?Oct 16 19:26
decnetYes, we're not allowed to go on IRC from GCHQ headquarters :]Oct 16 19:27
checkobut you are allowed to use Tor lolOct 16 19:27
checkodoes it slow down things much?Oct 16 19:28
decnetBack when I was an IT techie at a college, I caught the other techies rummaging through my personal files.Oct 16 19:28
checkothat's not nice, but they know howOct 16 19:29
decnetSlow down, not really, only cloaks the IP from the users, not the IRC server admins.Oct 16 19:30
decnetI caught them, when I was rummaging through their personal files :]Oct 16 19:30
checkohahahaOct 16 19:31
decnetAs if i would do anything nefarious while logged in under my own username, I would use the department heads username instead :]Oct 16 19:32
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checkololOct 16 19:32
decnetSpeaking of paranoid IT techies, have you seen 'Mr. Robot' recently?Oct 16 19:32
checkoif it is true about the IP, how can it make help if you do not want to be known by let's say the government?Oct 16 19:33
checkoMr. Robot is a movie? no I have notOct 16 19:33
decnetIt's not me, the place I am posting from don't want to be associated with some IRC channel.Oct 16 19:33
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checkono, I mean in generalOct 16 19:34
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checkois that not what Tor is said to be good for?Oct 16 19:34
checkonot to be disclosedOct 16 19:34
checkoseems rather useless to me for thatOct 16 19:36
decnetWell, it just a matter of keeping my IRC posting separate from the rest of my postings.Oct 16 19:37
checkoyes, I understand in your caseOct 16 19:37
checkobut I do not understand in the case of a spying government (or so)Oct 16 19:38
decnetI would assume anything you do online can be tracked, eventually ...Oct 16 19:39
checkoor maybe: the irc server/admin does not have to be in the countryOct 16 19:39
checkonot reachable for the governmentOct 16 19:39
checkoyes eventuallyOct 16 19:40
decneti would assume IRC would be the last place to discuss nefarious activity .. or that TOR is not trackable.Oct 16 19:40
checkoI am not such a techie, I don't understand all of itOct 16 19:41
checkobut who does?Oct 16 19:41
decnetWith enough nodes, the server/client real IP can be traced, except it isn't legal and can't be used in court :]Oct 16 19:41
decnetOnly the paranoid survive.Oct 16 19:42
checkonot in a state with rule of lawOct 16 19:43
decnetI think that boat sailed a long tome ago.Oct 16 19:43
checko:-/Oct 16 19:44
decnetMr. robot, it's a television series, you should check it out. It depicts the mind set of the average techie :]Oct 16 19:44
decnet"I’m good at reading people. My secret, I look for the worst in them."Oct 16 19:44
decnetThat's what you'll end up like if you stay in the tech sector :]Oct 16 19:45
checkoI am not there yetOct 16 19:45
decnetGive it time :]Oct 16 19:46
decnethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._RobotOct 16 19:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mr. Robot - WikipediaOct 16 19:46
checkobut I do think that humanity as a whole is no goodOct 16 19:46
checkoI am not sure it's been on tele on this side of the atlanticOct 16 19:48
decnetI do somethimes think like that, except every so often I see someone do something good for no reason and no reward, except feeling good. It totally shakes my cynicism towards humanity. I almost lost my faith :]Oct 16 19:48
checkomr robotOct 16 19:48
decnet'Mr. Robot': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._RobotOct 16 19:49
decnetgtg: It's been interesting, back tomorrow at about this time.Oct 16 19:50
checkoyes, some people sometimes can be good, it is confusingOct 16 19:51
checkomaybeOct 16 19:51
decnetYea, my other job is as an assassin :] byeOct 16 19:51
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checkonice talkingOct 16 19:51
checkoto uOct 16 19:51
checkoI'm off alsoOct 16 19:52
checkosleep tight all you techies :)Oct 16 19:52
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