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DaemonFC[m]Which one was it that had the Galaxy Song?Aug 17 00:00
MinceRprobably The Meaning of LifeAug 17 00:03
XRevan86Definitely not the first two.Aug 17 00:06
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162472576356179969Aug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: Wow, Jim. This is what jumping the shark looks like. You're certainly not speaking for the open source people in my… https://t.co/cxdVujZ9FoAug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: Wow, Jim. This is what jumping the shark looks like. You're certainly not speaking for the open source people in my… https://t.co/cxdVujZ9FoAug 17 01:28
schestowitz"Wow, Jim. This is what jumping the shark looks like. You're certainly not speaking for the open source people in my life... Quite the opposite, really."Aug 17 01:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162473094449172480Aug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: Free and open source software communities should shun and revile Microsoft - they and their corporate ilk are beyon… https://t.co/M8nulM0dJRAug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: Free and open source software communities should shun and revile Microsoft - they and their corporate ilk are beyon… https://t.co/M8nulM0dJRAug 17 01:28
schestowitz"Free and open source software communities should shun and revile Microsoft - they and their corporate ilk are beyond hope of salvation - their incentives make them antithetical to our "open" principles. Guaranteed."Aug 17 01:28
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162478763696959492Aug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: We're seeing lots of efforts by depraved corporations (Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM, etc.) to present themselves a… https://t.co/yKtKjI33NoAug 17 01:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: We're seeing lots of efforts by depraved corporations (Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM, etc.) to present themselves a… https://t.co/yKtKjI33NoAug 17 01:28
schestowitz"We're seeing lots of efforts by depraved corporations (Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM, etc.) to present themselves as "open sourcey" despite the fact that their "success" and influence are the result of using *proprietary* technology to exploit their…"Aug 17 01:28
schestowitz"We're seeing lots of efforts by depraved corporations (Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM, etc.) to present themselves as "open sourcey" despite the fact that their "success" and influence are the result of using *proprietary* technology to exploit their users for maximium profit. These corporations (& those foolish "evangelists" helping perpetrate that agenda) are open-washing their Mafia-style business models. It's a bald-faced lie. To wit: Aug 17 01:28
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/08/13/open"Aug 17 01:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation’s Open Source Summit is a Proprietary Software Marketing Venue | TechrightsAug 17 01:29
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/capitalkiwi/status/1162473357419282432Aug 17 01:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@capitalkiwi: @lightweight If its free and open source, but its only free and open source to those you agree with, is it really open source?Aug 17 01:31
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162479643728830465Aug 17 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: @capitalkiwi Microsoft's "love" translates to almost *none* of their software really being #FOSS. Even VSCode isn't… https://t.co/5SuIw0U1zCAug 17 01:32
schestowitz"Microsoft's "love" translates to almost *none* of their software really being #FOSS. Even VSCode isn't really FOSS. It's built on "VSCodium" which is (kinda) open source, but it's not functional. https://github.com/VSCodium/vscodium … Their "love" 100% spin, 0% sincere."Aug 17 01:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - VSCodium/vscodium: binary releases of VS Code without MS branding/telemetry/licensingAug 17 01:32
schestowitzIt's also bait for proprietary MSVS. #openwashingAug 17 01:32
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162480500805521408Aug 17 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: @capitalkiwi And if people in #FOSS communities are sucked in by Microsoft's spin, more sensible members of their c… https://t.co/BZaj5Mr1cmAug 17 01:33
schestowitz"And if people in #FOSS communities are sucked in by Microsoft's spin, more sensible members of their communities have a moral (and existential) obligation to set them straight..."Aug 17 01:33
schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/lightweight/status/1162480246345498624Aug 17 01:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@lightweight: @capitalkiwi As I've said before: Microsoft "loves" Linux & #FOSS like a tapeworm loves a healthy digestive system.Aug 17 01:33
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oiaohmschestowitz: problem here is it costs money to run server infrastructure that the open source world need to function.    So there is always the temptation to bow to money.  Aug 17 04:26
schestowitz[04:24] <schestowitz> https://twitter.com/kaddourkardio/status/1162564859583770624Aug 17 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz Do you think that Linux kernel is in big threat regarding big corporations infiltration? What if Torva… https://t.co/11BTNHa6gaAug 17 04:27
schestowitz[04:24] [Notice] -TechrightsBN to #boycottnovell- @kaddourkardio: @schestowitz Do you think that Linux kernel is in big threat regarding big corporations infiltration? What if Torva… https://t.co/11BTNHa6gaAug 17 04:27
schestowitz[04:24] [Notice] -TechrightsBN to #boycottnovell- @kaddourkardio: @schestowitz Do you think that Linux kernel is in big threat regarding big corporations infiltration? What if Torva… https://t.co/11BTNHa6gaAug 17 04:27
schestowitz[04:24] <schestowitz> "Do you think that Linux kernel is in big threat regarding big corporations infiltration? What if Torvalds step down from administrating the git repo?"Aug 17 04:27
schestowitz[04:24] <schestowitz> GitHub can pick it up from where he left off... http://techrights.org/2019/07/28/linux-foundation-microsoft-outsourcing/Aug 17 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@kaddourkardio: @schestowitz Do you think that Linux kernel is in big threat regarding big corporations infiltration? What if Torva… https://t.co/11BTNHa6gaAug 17 04:27
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | People From Half a Dozen Countries May be Banned From Participating in the Linux Foundation Because It’s Outsourcing Many Projects to Microsoft/GitHub | TechrightsAug 17 04:27
oiaohmschestowitz: Linux kernel today only has the resoruces to develop the way it does due to big corporations.Aug 17 04:29
oiaohmcorporation infitration of the Linux kernel was complete over a decade ago.Aug 17 04:30
oiaohmWill they remain cat vs dog fighting with each other so preventing one company from having absolute control that basically the question.Aug 17 04:30
schestowitznot all companies are equalAug 17 04:31
schestowitzIBM having a finger in the pie doesn't bother me muchAug 17 04:31
schestowitzIBM does not directly attack Linux, usually the oppositeAug 17 04:31
oiaohmLinus pay packet and the Linus foundation came about because all those really gready companies could not tollerate anyone else paying his wage.Aug 17 04:32
oiaohmLike you cannot see vmware agreeing to having the Linux kernel  managed by microsoft because that would undermine their interests.Aug 17 04:33
schestowitzLinux being sort of crowdsourced to companies is one thingAug 17 04:34
oiaohmschestowitz: so its more a question with the Linux kernel will the blance of power remain.Aug 17 04:34
schestowitzmaking some of these companies members when they attack Linux is anotherAug 17 04:34
schestowitzand also, LF showed LOTS of ENTHUSIASM for Microsoft latelyAug 17 04:34
oiaohmI expect that enthusasm to last while Microsoft is paying for infrastructure Aug 17 04:35
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oiaohmNot that I particularly like it.Aug 17 04:36
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schestowitzoiaohm: not goodAug 17 04:37
schestowitzit's not helping that Zemlin the spouse sells Azure for a livingAug 17 04:37
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-15/github-is-building-a-coder-s-paradise-it-s-not-coming-cheap   It really simple to forget places like github have basically being money blackholes.Aug 17 04:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bloomberg - Are you a robot?Aug 17 04:37
schestowitzor sold, maybe at PwC she no longer does thisAug 17 04:37
schestowitzoiaohm: well, their business model is killing FOSSAug 17 04:38
schestowitzby handing over control to a FOSS enemyAug 17 04:38
schestowitz"here, have a kill switch, Friedman (Mono) and Bill"Aug 17 04:38
oiaohmMicrosoft is in a horrible position over 2 thirds of there cloud is FOSS based software.Aug 17 04:38
oiaohmand it thier growing market.Aug 17 04:38
schestowitzbecause they rebrand like thatAug 17 04:39
schestowitzI could rebrand alsoAug 17 04:39
schestowitzlook, I shut down techrights... create a new domainAug 17 04:39
oiaohmAzure started as EEE that backfired.Aug 17 04:39
schestowitzWOW! From zero to million! AmazongAug 17 04:39
oiaohmIe the idea with Azure at first was get people on to a cheep windows server cloud.Aug 17 04:39
oiaohmThat Microsoft controlled.Aug 17 04:39
oiaohmThat is kind of not happing that cloud is turning into a Linux cloud.Aug 17 04:40
schestowitzIt's not clear if it's profitable, still...Aug 17 04:40
schestowitzso they implement price hikesAug 17 04:40
schestowitzthere's no "cloud"Aug 17 04:40
schestowitzyou mean VM hereAug 17 04:40
schestowitzMicrosoft renting VM capacityAug 17 04:40
oiaohmI don't have a small word for multi geolocation data centre.Aug 17 04:41
schestowitzThey use bribery and connections, trying to steer businesses towards itAug 17 04:41
schestowitzAzure is oldAug 17 04:41
oiaohmSo I used cloud in that case.Aug 17 04:41
schestowitzand it's nowhereAug 17 04:41
schestowitzAWS  is several times bigger, and growing..Aug 17 04:41
schestowitzVMware shut down its ownAug 17 04:42
schestowitzwith months' noticeAug 17 04:42
schestowitzI know cause NHS hosted on itAug 17 04:42
schestowitzwe moved them to a university in WalesAug 17 04:42
oiaohmschestowitz: https://www.crn.com.au/news/microsofts-azure-growth-slows-but-results-meet-expectations-518638  both Azure and AWS have been growing.Aug 17 04:42
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.crn.com.au | Microsoft's Azure growth slows, but results meet expectations - Cloud - CRN AustraliaAug 17 04:42
oiaohmAWS has been growing faster.Aug 17 04:42
schestowitzall this so-called 'cloud' BS is o panaceaAug 17 04:42
schestowitzMicrrosoft is not growingAug 17 04:43
schestowitzthey fake itAug 17 04:43
schestowitzthey turn existing share to "Azure"Aug 17 04:43
schestowitzThey move from one thing to anotherAug 17 04:43
schestowitzlike migrating some SMB stuff they licensed to businesses to "Azure"Aug 17 04:43
schestowitzThat's not growth, it's cannibalismAug 17 04:43
schestowitzAnd expectations mean nothhgAug 17 04:44
schestowitzAs they set their own "expectation" to pretend to have "succeeded" at somethingAug 17 04:44
oiaohmschestowitz: do note that was still a 78 percent growth in sales of Azure in last quater.Aug 17 04:44
schestowitzNoAug 17 04:44
schestowitzcannobalismAug 17 04:44
schestowitzthey move things to "the cloud"Aug 17 04:44
schestowitzEven OfficeAug 17 04:44
schestowitzSoon they'll claim "Huge Growth"Aug 17 04:45
schestowitzBeccause they move Office users to something where they don't even control their own files, let alone formats and codeAug 17 04:45
schestowitzoiaohm: you repeat MSFT marketing talking pointsAug 17 04:45
oiaohmIt was in their reporting.     Even allowing for cannobalism that percentage is greater than they could have got by straight cannbalism.Aug 17 04:46
oiaohmSo like it or not that section of Microsoft has growth.   Where most most sections of Microsoft are in decline.Aug 17 04:47
oiaohmAnd those other sections appear to be growing is mostly due to subscriptions and other ways of increasing amount charged.Aug 17 04:48
oiaohmschestowitz: these values were in Microsoft finical reports.  Yes Microsoft uses them as talking points but they are not telling a great long term story for Microsoft.Aug 17 04:49
schestowitzMicrosoft reports lie, tooAug 17 04:50
oiaohmMicrosoft said windows 10 would be the last windows.   Maybe they saw the writing on the wall.   It costs a lot of money to make a OS kernel and keep it current.   With the declines before Microsoft could do a 11/12 their might not be the money to make those.Aug 17 04:50
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_FinancialsAug 17 04:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - TechrightsAug 17 04:50
schestowitzoiaohm: anyway, I'm going to do some articles nowAug 17 04:51
schestowitzI feel like I'm combating with some MSFT rep TBHAug 17 04:51
oiaohmschestowitz: I kind of look at this from a different point of view.  Microsoft is kind of sinking and Azure and subscription model Microsoft is grabing on to for dear life to keep their high profits.   Lose their high profits they will have a share holder revolt.Aug 17 04:55
oiaohmQuestion I have is how despreate will Microsoft get.Aug 17 04:55
oiaohmschestowitz: There is a reason why IBM is quite nice.    https://www.ibm.com/au-en/marketplace/ibm-tririga   Lot of people think of IBM as a tech company.   When one of their biggest opterations is renting out real estate.  Its from this historic refactor were IBM almost went bankrupt.Aug 17 04:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-IBM TRIRIGA Facilities Management - Overview - AustraliaAug 17 04:59
oiaohmMicrosoft with all the land they own could do a IBM refactor.Aug 17 04:59
cubexyzre: M$, hopefully they just die or at least lose most of their influenceAug 17 05:12
schestowitzthen we'd focus on other threatsAug 17 05:12
cubexyzandroid is what, 76% world-wide now?Aug 17 05:13
cubexyzwhat percentage of mobile does M$ control?Aug 17 05:14
cubexyznot muchAug 17 05:14
schestowitzAndroid is much higher on newly-sold unitsAug 17 05:15
schestowitzabout 90% last i checkedAug 17 05:15
schestowitzand growing over timeAug 17 05:15
schestowitzbut we need more diversity there too, e.g. HarmonyOS, Jolla's SailfishOS, Android derivs...Aug 17 05:16
oiaohmcubexyz: the issue with Microsoft I think they are IBM size.   With right management at that size you basically cannot die due fact you are large enough to basically fire 99% of your staff and lease your owned land assets and live that way.Aug 17 05:52
oiaohmThat size company death requires very serous miss management.Aug 17 05:53
cubexyzI'll settle for a 90% reduction :)Aug 17 06:14
oiaohmcubexyz: 90% reduction is basically what happened to IBM when they almost went bankrupt.Aug 17 06:19
oiaohmcubexyz: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/11/01/realestate/commercial-property-ibm-real-estate-beleaguered-giant-seeks-ways-cut-costs.html   I know 1992 is a long time ago.Aug 17 06:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Commercial Property: I.B.M. Real Estate; A Beleaguered Giant Seeks Out Ways to Cut Costs - The New York TimesAug 17 06:20
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19081144Aug 17 09:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 17 09:55
XRevan86No everything IM is possible?Aug 17 09:56
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯Aug 17 09:59
oiaohmhttps://www.neowin.net/news/anime-studio-khara-is-planning-to-use-open-source-blender-software   This is interesting.Aug 17 10:03
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oiaohmmoving away from closed source to open source program because outside with closed source was not working out that well.Aug 17 10:03
MinceRhttps://vid.pr0gramm.com/2019/06/28/6e777a22d48f138e.mp4Aug 17 10:13
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scienteswhy is petrol benzene in Russian? Are the hydrocarbons shorter in Russia /trollAug 17 13:10
*scientes just learned 25% of petrol is benzene H6Aug 17 13:11
scientesoh no that is toluene and xylene, not benzeneAug 17 13:12
scientes*c6Aug 17 13:12
MinceRscientes: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/BenzinAug 17 13:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | Benzin – WikipediaAug 17 13:15
scienteshttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorenbenzin#AdditiveAug 17 13:16
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-de.wikipedia.org | Motorenbenzin – WikipediaAug 17 13:16
scientesoh nvm that is modernAug 17 13:17
scientestri-ethyl-leadAug 17 13:17
MinceRultimately they blame Justus von LiebingAug 17 13:17
MinceRs/ng/g/Aug 17 13:17
MinceRbut there's not enough detailAug 17 13:17
scientesthat tri-etyl-lead is nasty stuffAug 17 13:18
scientesMinceR, invented the bullion cubeAug 17 13:20
scientesthese days its very hard to buy real bullion cubesAug 17 13:20
scientesbouillion Aug 17 13:21
MinceRi don't think bouillon cubes are the reason gasoline is named after benzol in several languagesAug 17 13:22
scientesheheAug 17 13:23
scientestypical wikipedingAug 17 13:23
scienteshttps://www.xkcd.com/214/Aug 17 13:23
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-xkcd: The Problem with WikipediaAug 17 13:23
scientesthe wikipedia game is to click 10 times, and then get back to the orignal page without going back through any pages you have already beenAug 17 13:24
MinceR:>Aug 17 13:25
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19081125Aug 17 13:31
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-recession-2020-election-economy-recession-yield-curve-inversion-china-trade-war-a9063446.htmlAug 17 17:36
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | ‘He’s rattled’: Trump fears looming economic collapse will lose him 2020 election | The IndependentAug 17 17:36
DaemonFC[m]Recession 2020Aug 17 17:36
DaemonFC[m]Trump surrounded himself with so many Yes Men so that he won't have to think about it.Aug 17 17:36
schestowitz"gid economy"Aug 17 17:37
schestowitzgigAug 17 17:37
schestowitzlet's fake "employment"Aug 17 17:37
DaemonFC[m]The yield curve inversion is a pretty reliable indicator of a pending recession.Aug 17 17:38
DaemonFC[m]Once it inverts, you're usually talking recession within 8-14 months.Aug 17 17:38
DaemonFC[m]https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Microsoft-CFU-Spec-IssuesAug 17 17:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft's Component Firmware Update Is Their Latest Short-Sighted Spec - PhoronixAug 17 17:44
DaemonFC[m]"the actual implementation has a number of issues that complicate the Aug 17 17:44
DaemonFC[m]process and could quickly evolve into another troubling specification Aug 17 17:44
DaemonFC[m]from Microsoft in the hardware space"Aug 17 17:44
DaemonFC[m]:)Aug 17 17:44
DaemonFC[m]That's what the entire x86 PC platform is thanks to Intel, Microsoft, and Apple.Aug 17 17:45
DaemonFC[m]"and the concept of CFU updates happening in the background without any user interaction"Aug 17 17:45
DaemonFC[m]It makes perfect sense why Microsoft would want CFU.Aug 17 17:46
DaemonFC[m]More backdoor potential.Aug 17 17:46
DaemonFC[m]The user already has little control over their own computer.Aug 17 17:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/127064 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a40a0fcb-55ae-4f5f-9fa2-fa672410985b]Aug 17 19:19
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*XRevan86 saw The Meaning of Life. Not the best their work, but it's still something.Aug 17 19:38
XRevan86It has no shame, but I've come to expect that from Monty Python anyway %).Aug 17 19:38
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scientesXRevan86, you saw it?Aug 17 19:46
scientesare you whistling yet?Aug 17 19:46
XRevan86scientes: The song reminded me of looking at the bright side of life, yesAug 17 19:49
scientesoh yeah that is a different moveiAug 17 19:49
scienteslife of brianAug 17 19:49
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MinceRhttps://i.imgur.com/VfnFdZy.jpgAug 17 21:57
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XRevan86MinceR: So that's what "widowmaker" meansAug 17 22:00
MinceR:>Aug 17 22:01
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/UEFI%20Fall%202018%20Intel%20UEFI%20Capsules.pdf   Lot of ways CFU is a problem looking for a home.    Lot of cases are already covered by UEFI capsule.   uboot is doing the absolute cut down UEFI but they are working on supporting UEFI capsule.Aug 17 22:15
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: the backdoor potential of CFU is a major one.   UEFI capsule was partically designed not to be user invisable.Aug 17 22:16
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/19081062Aug 17 22:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post objectAug 17 22:52
XRevan86MinceR: You posted this one before. Not exactly this one, but with the same idea.Aug 17 22:54

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