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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Doesn't pass the "sniff test" for Microsoft. I think it's just someone who wanted to knock over copyleft because they had some idea for a product that couldn't compete. | Aug 19 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | He seemed to not like Red Hat very much. He said that it was dishonest to give the software out for free and charge for services. | Aug 19 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The court kept saying that he failed to articulate an antitrust argument. They let him amend his complaint 4 times before they threw it out. | Aug 19 00:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He seemed to be under the impression that the GPL requires software to be free of charge. | Aug 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't. It just makes it hard to sell because someone could take the same source code and come up with a different version. | Aug 19 00:02 |
| schestowitz | thanks, I will write something about it | Aug 19 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said he got hit with huge costs for the legal costs incurred by FSF and the three companies (IBM, RH, Novell). | Aug 19 00:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although, he accidentally contributed something to the GPL. Instead of knocking it down, he gave us case law that it provides direct benefits to the market, as decided by the trial judge, and a three judge panel voting unanimously at the Seventh Circuit appeals court. | Aug 19 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which can be cited if someone else is ever hit with antitrust complaints regarding a Free Software License. | Aug 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Very little of SCO v. IBM is in RECAP. | Aug 19 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I might start dumping the court records into the RECAP archive. They say that once they're in there, the Internet Archive mirrors them. | Aug 19 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So whatever gets freed is out there permanently. | Aug 19 00:06 |
| kingoffrance | kind of sad they could just push stuff to a number of mirrors who would probably mirror for free , waste of time and money all around | Aug 19 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: Are you in the US? | Aug 19 00:07 |
| kingoffrance | whats the argument for trying to hide public court stuff? we have to keep the law secret else they will know? | Aug 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you can sign up for a PACER account, you can install the RECAP extension and anything you browse in PACER will be mirrored into RECAP automatically. | Aug 19 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | was that a dumb question on my part DaemonFC[m] :) | Aug 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You get $30 worth of free access to PACER every quarter. | Aug 19 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | i mean, it seems to me in bets interest court stuff gets publicized to prevent frivilous arguments etc. | Aug 19 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As long as you don't exceed that, you don't get billed. | Aug 19 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | it would seem to me the judges would WANT that stuff published near and far | Aug 19 00:08 |
| kingoffrance | unless its some national security thing or something | Aug 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "i mean, it seems to me in bets i"> Yes, but PACER brings in $135 million dollars per year. | Aug 19 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | who doesnt want it published? lawyers | Aug 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cash register justice. | Aug 19 00:09 |
| kingoffrance | because then you would have less dependency on them | Aug 19 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The more people use PACER with RECAP installed, the more documents they can't sell ever again. | Aug 19 00:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: My reading of the PACER ToS doesn't forbid redistribution. | Aug 19 00:10 |
| kingoffrance | hmm, well if its $30 free every quarter i didnt know that | Aug 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It says you won't attack the payment mechanism to access a document in PACER for free. | Aug 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not that you won't put it into a system like RECAP once you have it. | Aug 19 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you sign up without a credit card, they send you an activation code by postal mail. | Aug 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Takes about a week. | Aug 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll be dumping documents as fast as me and my husband can get the free usage credits resetting. | Aug 19 00:11 |
| kingoffrance | long ago, someone was paying me to go to court houses, look up deceased ppl, so they could contact next of kin and ask if they need a broker to help them sell houses someone might inherit but dont want ; tons of people a relative dies and they dont want anything to do with it: sell the house, get me cash? the real estate people see those court records as opportunity | Aug 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If I keep doing it, that could be 24,000 pages of court records per year. | Aug 19 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: I uploaded my ex's bankruptcy. | Aug 19 00:12 |
| kingoffrance | so i have heard of pacer, lots of people relative dies in another state, they dont want to move their and manage their inheritance, easeir to just sell it | Aug 19 00:12 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/8158712/michael-ryan-davis/ | Aug 19 00:13 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Michael Ryan Davis, 18-33427 – CourtListener.com | Aug 19 00:13 | |
| kingoffrance | they had limits on $x assets for who they wanted to "target" | Aug 19 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | so that stuff is all public but you either pacer or have to go in person | Aug 19 00:13 |
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| kingoffrance | lots of stuff is public without pacer, but you hae to go in person and sit at a terminal | Aug 19 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | and how many terminals depends on court house | Aug 19 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | maybe 8, maybe 1 or 2 "public" | Aug 19 00:13 |
| kingoffrance | :) | Aug 19 00:14 |
| kingoffrance | lawyers dont want to do that if they are not dead broke, so they just pacer | Aug 19 00:14 |
| kingoffrance | few ppl do that because the terminals were so old, it wasnt even documented | Aug 19 00:15 |
| kingoffrance | so theres "free" access to court stuff, but its a pain | Aug 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can u get the jomes trial docs? | Aug 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | jones | Aug 19 00:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe pacer has that too, not just the court's site | Aug 19 00:19 |
| schestowitz | I imagine they have shared/common distribution channel | Aug 19 00:19 |
| kingoffrance | the people staffing those terminals dont know the mainframe commands either; so noone really knows how it all works, noone still there anyways | Aug 19 00:19 |
| kingoffrance | its just word of mouth what commands you hae to do :) | Aug 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Financial | Aug 19 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Nicholas Financial - Wikipedia | Aug 19 00:19 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | My ex really screwed this bank on his car loan. | Aug 19 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Drove it without insurance, hit a deer. | Aug 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Used the bankruptcy to stop them from repossessing it for most of the year he drove it without paying on it. | Aug 19 00:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then they repossessed it and all it was worth was scrap metal. | Aug 19 00:20 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA driver 450.66 released for Linux, includes a useful Vulkan sync fix http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141100#comment-26183 [https://pleroma.site/objects/12016d33-ce5f-430d-848a-cadf5fee57da] | Aug 19 00:20 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | They're the one who filed the AP that I didn't copy to RECAP. | Aug 19 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Paying a lawyer to get them a worthless car back. | Aug 19 00:21 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Apollo Lake thin clients come pre-integrated with IGEL OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141103 [https://pleroma.site/objects/fc2a194e-f11e-40bc-a6a3-b0b971183522] | Aug 19 00:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The COVID-19 pandemic is causing more small regional banks to go under. | Aug 19 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks like this one too. | Aug 19 00:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://stockhouse.com/news/press-releases/2020/07/30/nicholas-financial-reports-1st-quarter-fiscal-year-2021-results | Aug 19 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Nicholas Financial Reports 1st Quarter Fiscal Year 2021 Results | 2020-07-30 | Press Releases | Stockhouse | Aug 19 00:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kali Linux 2020.3 Released with Initial Switch to ZSH Shell, Automating HiDPI Support http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141104 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d1e8ce85-5b9f-4970-a084-e8944be0ce92] | Aug 19 00:24 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The CEO is bragging that they finance car loans to risky borrowers who need to get to work and back to low income jobs. | Aug 19 00:25 |
| schestowitz | if they can find any | Aug 19 00:25 |
| schestowitz | low income does not mean low demand | Aug 19 00:25 |
| schestowitz | for some people this is as high as they can get | Aug 19 00:25 |
| schestowitz | with lots of them competing for it | Aug 19 00:26 |
| schestowitz | one restuarat here advertised an opening | Aug 19 00:26 |
| schestowitz | and then reported like 1000 applications | Aug 19 00:26 |
| schestowitz | overwhelmed | Aug 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Holy shit. | Aug 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 23-28% interest on a car? | Aug 19 00:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fuck fuck fuck. Nope | Aug 19 00:26 |
| schestowitz | the banks here have long queues going all the way to the streets for like 100 feet | Aug 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | OMG. I thought my ex was smarter than that. | Aug 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I shopped around for John's car loan. Got him 5.2% on his Ford. | Aug 19 00:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ford had a 1% promo APR, but to take it, you had to give them $2,000 rebate back and the $500 law enforcement rebate he got for being TSA, and on a car loan that small (Ford Fiesta hatchback), it was better to pay the interest and use the rebate as the down payment. | Aug 19 00:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Satellite 6.8 beta now available with support for IPv6 and improved upgrade processes http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141105 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3bf1ef57-51b8-407b-bbeb-946f5c3979ae] | Aug 19 00:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "the banks here have long queues "> I was like "Nicholas Financial? What is that?". | Aug 19 00:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 25% average APR on a used car. LOL | Aug 19 00:29 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141106 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dc191982-46c4-4acb-a90f-166e4c3235dd] | Aug 19 00:30 | |
| schestowitz | [00:15] <schestowitz> DaemonFC[m]: can u get the jones trial docs? | Aug 19 00:31 |
| schestowitz | leave aside the car stories | Aug 19 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's nothing in PACER about him. | Aug 19 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In fact, I wasted some of my credits trying to pull that bankruptcy thinking it was him. | Aug 19 00:31 |
| schestowitz | the court has it | Aug 19 00:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought that if the bankruptcy was him that was easily an article in itself. | Aug 19 00:31 |
| schestowitz | I can pay for for the request | Aug 19 00:31 |
| schestowitz | The bankruptcy is a decade younger person | Aug 19 00:32 |
| schestowitz | Richard | Aug 19 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unfortunately, it was not possible to know that without pulling the schedules. | Aug 19 00:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By that point, PACER charged you. | Aug 19 00:32 |
| schestowitz | the kings county site has access to it | Aug 19 00:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Does your credit card do international currency conversion? | Aug 19 00:33 |
| schestowitz | and all the pages of all motions would cost about 20 dollars | Aug 19 00:33 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Aug 19 00:33 |
| schestowitz | I can pay directly to your bank account if you get us those documents | Aug 19 00:34 |
| schestowitz | we're the only one still covering this case | Aug 19 00:34 |
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| schestowitz | what he said at the trial can be interesting | Aug 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I don't ever do bank transfers. | Aug 19 00:34 |
| schestowitz | I can use paypal, rianne_ has it | Aug 19 00:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let me see if I can hook up Paypal to my new bank. | Aug 19 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I argued with my old one about adding Mandy but they didn't like it because he isn't a US citizen. | Aug 19 00:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They said come back if he gets a Green Card though. | Aug 19 00:35 |
| schestowitz | I can pay a bill of yours somehow | Aug 19 00:35 |
| schestowitz | that's the side issue | Aug 19 00:36 |
| schestowitz | whether we can get all the pages is ket | Aug 19 00:36 |
| schestowitz | *key | Aug 19 00:36 |
| schestowitz | we never requested them because we figured the SPD stuff, 2851 pages, would be enough | Aug 19 00:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, those don't include what went on in court. | Aug 19 00:38 |
| schestowitz | he pled guilty | Aug 19 00:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although they will be in the court records somewhere. | Aug 19 00:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As soon as the defense files a discovery motion, the state has to turn over the police report to the defense. | Aug 19 00:39 |
| schestowitz | The case summary http://techrights.org/2020/01/13/guilty-verdict-confirmed/ | Aug 19 00:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's usually no big surprises at trial, so most lawyers know what would happen and come up with an agreement based on what's likely to happen. | Aug 19 00:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mansion of Pedophilia – Part VII: Guilty Verdict in Case of Pedophilia (Staff at the Mansion of Bill Gates), But Where Was the Mainstream Media? | Techrights | Aug 19 00:40 | |
| schestowitz | creating an account is free | Aug 19 00:40 |
| schestowitz | then they charge for credit, for x pages | Aug 19 00:40 |
| schestowitz | less than 100 pages, total | Aug 19 00:40 |
| schestowitz | maybe there has been an addition since | Aug 19 00:40 |
| schestowitz | I last checked last year | Aug 19 00:40 |
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| schestowitz | I finish work shortly, then I'll work on the Wallace post | Aug 19 00:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I can custom the number of pages. | Aug 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Didn't see that. | Aug 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Let me count and see exactly how many I need for all documents on Jones. | Aug 19 00:44 |
| kingoffrance | pacer looks like it is all federal yes? | Aug 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: You want all of them or just the ones most likely to be interesting? | Aug 19 00:44 |
| kingoffrance | thats why they want tax id | Aug 19 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <kingoffrance "thats why they want tax id"> They didn't ask me for SSN/tax id. | Aug 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm looking for FOSS-related federal cases to dump from PACER as I get credits. | Aug 19 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll dump SCO v. IBM since nobody has even started on that. | Aug 19 00:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Jones is 117 pages. | Aug 19 00:48 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So $29.25 to dump in total. | Aug 19 00:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'm going to swing by the pharmacy tomorrow and do my flu shot and second round of Hep A. | Aug 19 00:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Apparently, mom got me all the vaccines recommended by the state of Indiana at the time and that did not include Hep A. | Aug 19 00:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It is fairly rare in the United States. | Aug 19 00:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I need to find a new doctor. Unfortunately, with the bankruptcy and what's going on in Chicago, I lost my old one. I'm just surprised my psychiatrist will still see me. | Aug 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I filed bankruptcy on four years worth of copays from him that his office secretary never got around to billing me for. | Aug 19 00:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The pandemic is affecting me, I just haven't gotten COVID-19 yet. | Aug 19 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Follow the Ryan-shaped blur. B-) | Aug 19 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | https://rferl.org/a/30788099.html Meduza in English apparently didn't cover this. | Aug 19 01:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rferl.org | The Battle For Russia's Kushtau Hill | Aug 19 01:00 | |
| XRevan86 | Endangered species needs shihans to live? Meh, soda. | Aug 19 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everything on Earth is endangered. | Aug 19 01:04 |
| XRevan86 | Not everything is endangered equally though. | Aug 19 01:04 |
| kingoffrance | pacer stuff is free too...at a federal court house | Aug 19 01:05 |
| kingoffrance | imagine 1 terminal | Aug 19 01:06 |
| kingoffrance | and a line... | Aug 19 01:06 |
| MinceR | serial line? | Aug 19 01:06 |
| kingoffrance | yes, because its not parallel | Aug 19 01:07 |
| MinceR | :) | Aug 19 01:07 |
| kingoffrance | its just going to be a client configured to boot into internet explorer | Aug 19 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | B2IE? | Aug 19 01:08 |
| MinceR | lol | Aug 19 01:09 |
| MinceR | they did that already, they call it "Windows" | Aug 19 01:09 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: brb, speaking to colleague at work | Aug 19 01:11 |
| schestowitz | [00:44] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: You want all of them or just the ones most likely to be interesting? | Aug 19 01:11 |
| schestowitz | I think we can legally RE-produce all | Aug 19 01:11 |
| schestowitz | and it would be good to have the complete thing | Aug 19 01:11 |
| schestowitz | I can buy you the 30 dollars | Aug 19 01:11 |
| schestowitz | brb | Aug 19 01:11 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: ok, done with work now | Aug 19 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I'm free till tomorrow evening | Aug 19 01:19 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: afaik, nothing prohibits us from republishing these pages | Aug 19 01:19 |
| schestowitz | and we're the only site giving research resources on this topic, which millions of people have read about this year | Aug 19 01:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's amazing how rich people never have to explain any of their actions and how they just pay off their victims. | Aug 19 01:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Epstiein tossing a couple hundred bucks at kids and stuff. | Aug 19 01:21 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: thanks for the url, will disseminate | Aug 19 01:23 |
| schestowitz | I assume it's legit and not humour | Aug 19 01:23 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: that's a separate thing | Aug 19 01:23 |
| schestowitz | [01:22] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #BillClinton Getting Sidelined at Convention https://politicalwire.com/2020/08/18/bill-clinton-getting-sidelines-at-democratic-convention/ #metoo #esptein -- but they aren't cancelling #billgates yet, are they? [https://pleroma.site/objects/db761043-2b06-4e3e-8350-60270697f4f6] | Aug 19 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-politicalwire.com | Bill Clinton Getting Sidelined at Convention | Aug 19 01:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 19 01:23 | |
| schestowitz | Right now, DaemonFC[m], we cannot prove the connection | Aug 19 01:24 |
| schestowitz | the links can be made stronger and the more info we piece together, the more likely we are to find patterns | Aug 19 01:24 |
| schestowitz | which can then compel admission | Aug 19 01:24 |
| kingoffrance | pacer's free for researchers, but that probably == dept. of edu. --affiliated "grant" or some such | Aug 19 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | and they say dont publish, non-commercial, etc. | Aug 19 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | so free if you keep your mouth shut | Aug 19 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | probably for law students mainly | Aug 19 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | not actual "researchers" | Aug 19 01:27 |
| kingoffrance | free to publish a paper, but noone can see your dataset | Aug 19 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | kingoffrance: They could look at who accessed what and when it went up on RECAP I guess. | Aug 19 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To prove it was you. | Aug 19 01:29 |
| kingoffrance | i dunno, maybe socialogy statistics ppl do such things | Aug 19 01:30 |
| kingoffrance | you just cant publish your data set | Aug 19 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I'd say that Daniel Wallace's demeanor was more shocked that someone wanted to talk to him and evasive. | Aug 19 01:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But definitely kind of blindsided that someone would poke around at that after 15 years. | Aug 19 01:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He said he was looking into some product based on BSD but wouldn't elaborate. | Aug 19 01:31 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Aug 19 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, there are small tech companies in the Indianapolis area, so it's certainly possible that he wanted to make a server offering or a network product, where FreeBSD was competitive with Linux at the time, mostly. | Aug 19 01:32 |
| schestowitz | did he sound lucid at his age? | Aug 19 01:33 |
| schestowitz | or should I rephrase as, FOR his age? | Aug 19 01:34 |
| schestowitz | maybe we were barking up the wrong tree, albeit his lawsuit itself is mean-spirited, regardless of motivation and possible external funding | Aug 19 01:35 |
| schestowitz | wow, my article about ibm in jamaica suddenly gets lots of attention | Aug 19 01:36 |
| schestowitz | like 100MB/30 sec | Aug 19 01:36 |
| schestowitz | I published it 3 days ago | Aug 19 01:37 |
| kingoffrance | well that answers that: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/new_bill_wants_to_end_pacer_fees its a slush fund to buy equipment for courtrooms | Aug 19 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.abajournal.com | Proposed legislation would eliminate PACER fees | Aug 19 01:37 | |
| kingoffrance | instead of getting approved funding, siphon from elsewhere | Aug 19 01:37 |
| schestowitz | groklaw wrote a lot about pacer fees | Aug 19 01:37 |
| schestowitz | groklaw must also have many copies of the wallace case | Aug 19 01:37 |
| schestowitz | locally hosted | Aug 19 01:37 |
| schestowitz | though I heard it was starting to have dead links, internal included | Aug 19 01:38 |
| kingoffrance | " excess PACER fees" well it was a bonus, so instead of return to the public, its free money | Aug 19 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "or should I rephrase as, FOR his"> He did. He has very strong opinions that the GPL is illegal under copyright law. | Aug 19 01:39 |
| kingoffrance | you see, it wasnt allocated anywhere, it was all "extra" stuff we didnt know what to do with | Aug 19 01:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He kept saying things like "I couldn't attack it using copyright law, so I went after it with antitrust law.". | Aug 19 01:40 |
| kingoffrance | maybe the post office stuff makes more sense in this light | Aug 19 01:41 |
| kingoffrance | run it like a business, so you can create hidden "bonus" funds | Aug 19 01:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They already shut down many postal sorting facilities completely and it didn't save them much money. | Aug 19 01:44 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141107 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c6952b3e-f6cf-49de-b048-fd83b284ddeb] | Aug 19 01:46 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: thanks, I want to clarify and set the record straight on this case | Aug 19 01:52 |
| kingoffrance | https://esignrecords.org/2018/04/03/judge-rules-pacer-fees-cannot-fund-courtroom-technology/ that sounds like a win but looks to me more like a loss | Aug 19 01:53 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-esignrecords.org | Judge rules PACER fees cannot fund most courtroom technology | ESRA | Aug 19 01:53 | |
| schestowitz | even if it didn't lead us to anything shocking or earth-shattering | Aug 19 01:53 |
| kingoffrance | they got slapped, but said they can do anything that aids distributing electronic records ...which doesnt make sense, lower fees would aid such distribution | Aug 19 01:53 |
| kingoffrance | and it was being used for other stuff too | Aug 19 01:54 |
| kingoffrance | this reminds me of channel one: agree to show 45 minutes or so of "state news" and well give you a tv | Aug 19 01:55 |
| kingoffrance | contracts say kids arent supposed to leave, they need to watch ads | Aug 19 01:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, putting them on another distribution system would reduce the load on the PACER servers and thus reduce their costs to operate it. | Aug 19 01:56 |
| kingoffrance | ^^^ | Aug 19 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | they dont seem to actually want that | Aug 19 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | i suspect the "noncommerical" is becaues someone(s) have a commercial contract and its to ensure noone else gets in | Aug 19 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | i suspect its to cement whoever got in first | Aug 19 01:57 |
| kingoffrance | but theyll spin it as "we dont want to commercialize this" we value your privacy etc. | Aug 19 01:58 |
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| kingoffrance | https://www.justice.gov/opcl/docs/pia-acms.pdf thats federal but thats the "terminals" i was using i bet ...ibm rpg databases | Aug 19 02:02 |
| kingoffrance | IIRC i think the "modernization" is basically stick a web front end on it | Aug 19 02:02 |
| kingoffrance | and ibm has locked in contracts i suspect for x years | Aug 19 02:03 |
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| tessier | DaemonFC[m]: What do you need the mp3.com lawsuit stuff for? I don't have any of it btw. I had nothing to do with the legal stuff. | Aug 19 02:10 |
| tessier | In fact I was just thinking yesterday about what a big lost opportunity MP3.com was. | Aug 19 02:10 |
| tessier | Lots of mistakes were made. | Aug 19 02:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nothing. I just like the idea of dumping PACER stuff. | Aug 19 02:10 |
| tessier | BTW I heard from an insider that Michael Robertson had dirt on Microsoft which could have invalidated Microsoft's trademark on the Windows name. | Aug 19 02:10 |
| tessier | That's why they settled by paying HIM instead of the other way around. | Aug 19 02:11 |
| tessier | But I never worked for Lindows or had anything to do with it. | Aug 19 02:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | <tessier "But I never worked for Lindows o"> It seemed to be a sleazy moneymaking scheme more than a product. | Aug 19 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They baited the lawsuit and then walked away with $25 million and Microsoft paying the court costs. | Aug 19 02:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their claim that it would be a Windows compatible OS turned into a really awful version of Linux that logs you in as root and has Wine. | Aug 19 02:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "In 2008, Robertson attempted to sue Linspire's bank, Comerica, in an attempt to get Comerica to refund severance payments which had been made to laid-off Linspire employees." | Aug 19 02:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comerica is under so many investigations. | Aug 19 02:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their site is unreliable and sometimes it doesn't send password reset links for days. | Aug 19 02:24 |
| Ariadne | https://twitter.com/weh_kaniini/status/1295888372247015425 | Aug 19 02:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@weh_kaniini: problems with the anti-capitalist software license, a thread. | Aug 19 02:25 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "Looks like we can add MP3tunes to the long list of Michael Robertson failed companies. MP3tunes has filed for Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. You can download the entire bankruptcy filing here. | Aug 19 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks like Robertson is sticking it to everyone from his lawyers ($1.4 million), to several employees ($10,775), to even the coffee vendor ($96)." | Aug 19 02:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | LOL | Aug 19 02:28 |
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| schestowitz | Ariadne: cheers, "mentioned" | Aug 19 02:31 |
| schestowitz | tessier: do you still have contacts with him? | Aug 19 02:32 |
| Ariadne | this is why software licenses which require conditions like "must have less than $X in assets to qualify for free use" require you to explicitly agree *before* software is delivered to you | Aug 19 02:32 |
| Ariadne | because then you have a contract license, not a statutory license | Aug 19 02:32 |
| schestowitz | i c.. | Aug 19 02:33 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Filing bankruptcy..... | Aug 19 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Michael Robertson be like.... | Aug 19 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | $1.4 million in unsecured debt to lawyers. | Aug 19 02:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then there's all the employees that lost their jobs that I don't want to pay. | Aug 19 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, and don't forget Dennis the Donut Boy. | Aug 19 02:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ($96 in coffee and donuts) | Aug 19 02:44 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | "I admit I'm not too sad to see Robertson's partner in crime, the law firm of Duane Morris (Ed Cramp), being stuck with $1.4 million in bad debt." | Aug 19 02:49 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Happens. I found out when looking at mom's divorce from Dave that after she caught him cheating and moved out, he filed against her for the divorce. | Aug 19 02:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The court proceedings got real nasty and he thought it would be funny to make her spend all afternoon in court on motions for alimony and stuff he didn't win. | Aug 19 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She made a counterclaim for her legal expenses to fight off his frivolous motions and he had to dig into his own retirement account for $12,000 to get it. | Aug 19 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then he didn't pay his own lawyer. | Aug 19 02:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then she blew the $12,000 and didn't pay her lawyer. | Aug 19 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then her lawyer sued her, got a judgment, and got about half of what she was owed before my mom stuffed a bunch of shit into a bankruptcy including her divorce lawyer, and got it all discharged. | Aug 19 02:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone loses in court. | Aug 19 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You know, they do say a good compromise is when both sides walk away feeling like they got screwed. | Aug 19 02:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The $1.4 million in legal expenses is probably not that much when they were (likely) billing his company at $1,500 an hour (or more). | Aug 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Per attorney. Figuring out ways to pad it every time you call them and ask a question. | Aug 19 02:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As far as making a point that he screwed the donut boy (figuratively) in the bankruptcy......$96 sounds petty. It does. | Aug 19 02:56 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I had a bankruptcy that went on and on and I threw in everyone I ever owed money to that I could name because the law says you have to and there's no point in leaving anything out. | Aug 19 02:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bankruptcy is just as damaging if you are filing with $86,400 of debt or if you file $86,425.24 because you found one more medical copay bill for $25.24 to stuff in there. | Aug 19 02:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The schedules are sort of like tax forms. You have to list all your assets, and all your liabilities. Honestly. Not doing this means the judge or the Trustee can call bullshit, throw out your whole filing, and maybe even file charges. | Aug 19 02:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | While you're sitting there doing this you quickly realize "Oh my god this is worse than I thought.". | Aug 19 03:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't think the bug bounty is doing much. | Aug 19 03:03 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: me neither | Aug 19 03:16 |
| schestowitz | I am just catching up with what's noteworthy | Aug 19 03:16 |
| schestowitz | not much so far tonight.. | Aug 19 03:16 |
| schestowitz | but I have the Daniel Wallace draft... | Aug 19 03:16 |
| schestowitz | [03:10] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #fedora blog down. For maintenance. Looks like it's #google hosted. Hm... [https://pleroma.site/objects/e8f8e672-38f0-4c92-81c6-d78a1308bda0] | Aug 19 03:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | Pleroma | Aug 19 03:16 | |
| schestowitz | you might want to look into it, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 19 03:16 |
| schestowitz | googleusercontent | Aug 19 03:17 |
| schestowitz | the ip address/hostname | Aug 19 03:17 |
| schestowitz | under ibm they don't show their cards | Aug 19 03:17 |
| schestowitz | but I assume it is down for migration | Aug 19 03:17 |
| schestowitz | not sure where from and to | Aug 19 03:17 |
| schestowitz | I can see the backend is wordpress | Aug 19 03:18 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: https://patch.com/illinois/across-il/online-map-will-help-illinois-travelers-avoid-covid-19-hotspots | Aug 19 03:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Coronavirus Hotspots: Illinois Creates Map For Travelers | Across Illinois, IL Patch | Aug 19 03:35 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Illinois is warning people to avoid the south, pretty much. | Aug 19 03:35 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: hi | Aug 19 04:05 |
| schestowitz | can you find a photo of Wallace? | Aug 19 04:05 |
| schestowitz | for the article? | Aug 19 04:05 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: in England they suggest staying away from here, the north, Lancs and Yorkshire | Aug 19 04:05 |
| schestowitz | The past week hardly any covid deaths in the country | Aug 19 04:06 |
| schestowitz | and fewer than 1,000 people in hospital due to it | Aug 19 04:06 |
| schestowitz | 75 on ventilators last I check.. nationwide | Aug 19 04:06 |
| schestowitz | wow, groklaw is broken http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20050703144738557 | Aug 19 04:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20050703144738557 ) | Aug 19 04:08 | |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I give up | Aug 19 04:21 |
| schestowitz | can't find a photo | Aug 19 04:21 |
| schestowitz | no matter how hard I try | Aug 19 04:22 |
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| schestowitz | he also has a very common name, which does not help | Aug 19 04:22 |
| schestowitz | so I have to narrow down based on this particular case | Aug 19 04:22 |
| schestowitz | unless you can think of a better search context | Aug 19 04:22 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I really can't. I tried finding him on LinkedIn and there's just so many. | Aug 19 04:28 |
| schestowitz | wanna read the draft? | Aug 19 04:29 |
| schestowitz | it's ready | Aug 19 04:29 |
| kingoffrance | the archive.org is fine https://web.archive.org/web/20170704161955/http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050703144738557 that one has comments | Aug 19 04:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Groklaw - Wallace's "Memorandum on Motion for SJ" in Wallace v. IBM | Aug 19 04:29 | |
| schestowitz | yes, but groklaw seems to be rotting away over time | Aug 19 04:29 |
| schestowitz | sometimes gave me headsup last year | Aug 19 04:29 |
| schestowitz | we don't have contacts we know for sure would work | Aug 19 04:30 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: quick. http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/daniel-wallace-v-gpl-revisited/ | Aug 19 04:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Daniel Wallace Explains Why He Challenged the GPL (Copyleft) in Court | Techrights | Aug 19 04:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "mostly. | Aug 19 04:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Needs a closing quotation. | Aug 19 04:35 |
| schestowitz | I find one grammar issue | Aug 19 04:35 |
| schestowitz | good job, DaemonFC[m] | Aug 19 04:36 |
| schestowitz | I'll link to it now | Aug 19 04:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Looks good. | Aug 19 04:36 |
| schestowitz | good to take old subjects | Aug 19 04:37 |
| schestowitz | putting a fresh coat of paint on them | Aug 19 04:37 |
| schestowitz | in a newer context, too | Aug 19 04:37 |
| schestowitz | A lot of IBM stained past isn't on the WWW at all | Aug 19 04:37 |
| schestowitz | you need to head to books | Aug 19 04:38 |
| schestowitz | IBM's worst or most abusive days predate WWW | Aug 19 04:38 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft's antitrust abuses also predate the WWW, but continued as it came, too | Aug 19 04:38 |
| schestowitz | let's see if I can squeeze more tidbits out of the Jones case | Aug 19 04:39 |
| schestowitz | we've run out of new FOIA stuff on it | Aug 19 04:39 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:41 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\First-Spanking-004.jpg | Aug 19 04:41 |
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| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
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| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
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| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
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| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
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| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\First-Spanking-014.jpg | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | [caution | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | [nsfw] | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\FING-2.jpg | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\finger+indian+ahole.jpg | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\fingergirl851.jpg | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\FINGERINASS.jpg | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | I don't think there's a point highlighting these, tbh | Aug 19 04:42 |
| schestowitz | Ian is the detective BTW | Aug 19 04:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: OS/2 was far less of a disaster than Windows, but the only place pushing it in town as preload was Radio Shack. | Aug 19 04:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Howard Stern was on the radio saying it liked it much better than Windows 95. | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\nude boy blowing bubbles colour.jpg | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: maybe IBM marketing failure | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | maybe underestimating the threat | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | but... | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | even if OS/2 (proprietary) became mainstream, there's no guarantee we'd be better off | Aug 19 04:46 |
| schestowitz | it's no GNU | Aug 19 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Definitely a marketing failure, but also they got hurt by Microsoft preload agreements that were declared illegal later. | Aug 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Under Antitrust. | Aug 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By the time they got struck down, Microsoft had destroyed BeOS and OS/2. | Aug 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Remember how they found negatives and photos of boys at the beach? | Aug 19 04:47 |
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| schestowitz | Files\3\nude boy on beach eating ice cream | Aug 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz | colour.jpg | Aug 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They did a lot of damage to early efforts at Linux on the desktop too that it didn't recover from for years. | Aug 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\nude brothers and sisters on beach.jpg | Aug 19 04:47 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/ | Aug 19 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | Techrights | Aug 19 04:47 | |
| schestowitz | not sure if there's much to be said, as the connecting is not strong or relevant | Aug 19 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They probably made sure that they were well aware but always had deniability, or paid people not to look or ask. | Aug 19 04:48 |
| schestowitz | let me think... | Aug 19 04:48 |
| schestowitz | maybe if I can find more "beach" stuff | Aug 19 04:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I tried out BeOS Personal Edition and liked it. | Aug 19 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think it would have made a much better Mac OS and Apple could have acquired Be for pennies compared with Next. | Aug 19 04:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The idea of the iPod was trivial and obvious. There were other MP3 players out there that they could cheat off of, so that wasn't a Steve Jobs thing either. | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\latin b 11 hard beach.jpg | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\latin boy11 onbeach in water.jpg | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\latin+boyz+pissing.jpg | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | "latin" make the connection stronger | Aug 19 04:50 |
| schestowitz | he has a thing for kids who are latin... in this case on a beach | Aug 19 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy gave them the "woke CEO" thing that Microsoft is trying to emulate now. | Aug 19 04:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's clear that Jobs didn't understand the first thing about tech. | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | S:\Ian\14-22121 Jones\Deduplicated Evidence | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | Files\3\g 09 lay on the beachan13.jpg | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | Not clear what that would depict | Aug 19 04:51 |
| schestowitz | But I found an angle to cover | Aug 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The guy isn't just a chomo, he's got weird fetishes too. | Aug 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like John. | Aug 19 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess one in, all in on the psychiatric issues. | Aug 19 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Child molesters seem to have lacked a stable childhood in my experience. | Aug 19 04:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, there wasn't structure imposed on them. They miss some critical development there. | Aug 19 04:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Psychologically, stuck in a certain level of development in certain areas. | Aug 19 04:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I also think that shows up in the age of the people they're attracted to. The point where their own development faced a setback. Where they "are" mentally. Anyway, that's one type at least. | Aug 19 04:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John appears to be stuck at the emotional maturity level of a 15 or 16 year old. | Aug 19 04:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Humiliation seems to be the key to people who want to be urinated on. It's a form of decompensating. You see it a lot in executives who are under a lot of stress at work, those types. | Aug 19 04:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Part of the lack of development seems to include a lack of understanding a causal relationship between the choices we make and the consequences. | Aug 19 04:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No rational person would be hoarding child porn, much less from clear internet sites and emailing it to each other. | Aug 19 04:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By rational, I mean a lot of things, but fundamentally at least what happens if you get caught. | Aug 19 04:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Your life is over. By the time they put you on the list, you'll be eating a gun to make it stop when nobody will hire you and you're going to be homeless. | Aug 19 05:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody would risk that if they were able to process a cause/effect relationship. | Aug 19 05:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You risk speeding to work because most people get a ticket eventually and the risk is low ($200 if they catch you). | Aug 19 05:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's no stigma, and most people can afford getting caught once. | Aug 19 05:01 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | So CP is one of those hat trick things. Right? A good person with a clean bill of mental health wouldn't do it. A smart person at least wouldn't do it openly. A person with any common sense knows what happens if they get caught and doesn't leave bankers boxes and unencrypted hard drives everywhere. | Aug 19 05:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | John isn't all that smart. He's definitely not good. He has severe mental issues that include "give him 2 weeks and the whole house will be one foot deep in garbage and dirty clothes". | Aug 19 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He may or may not get caught someday. | Aug 19 05:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've known a few people like that where their house got so filthy that they almost had to call the city in. | Aug 19 05:07 |
| schestowitz | I think i find sufficient sample | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | lots of beach (maybe 200), not inc. identified CP | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | with Latin as common theme | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | just what he himself photographed | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | oops, I almost forgot to blut the hashes | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | *blur out | Aug 19 05:09 |
| schestowitz | Detectives Found That Bill Gates' Engineer Took Photos of Latino Boys at the Beach. His Child Pornography Files Included Similar Material. | Aug 19 05:11 |
| schestowitz | Based on filenames used as evidence against Bill Gates' engineer, he had collected hundreds of photographs of children at the beach (some sexually explicit); the report from the police said they also found he had acquired photos (with negatives) of children at the beach, somewhere in central/south America | Aug 19 05:12 |
| schestowitz | does that cover all the key points? | Aug 19 05:12 |
| schestowitz | The police, SPD, did not explore that far | Aug 19 05:13 |
| schestowitz | BUT>.. | Aug 19 05:13 |
| schestowitz | we don't know what happened in the court | Aug 19 05:13 |
| schestowitz | and whether witnesses did discuss the nature of the 'stash' | Aug 19 05:13 |
| schestowitz | I changed the summary | Aug 19 05:15 |
| schestowitz | "Based on filenames used as evidence against Bill Gates' engineer, he had collected hundreds of photographs of children at the beach (some sexually explicit); the report from the police said they also found he had personally acquired photos (with negatives) of children at the beach, likely somewhere in central/south America (the children were clothed but unaware they were being photographed)" | Aug 19 05:15 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: see http://techrights.org/2020/08/18/rick-jones-beach-fetish/ | Aug 19 05:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Detectives Found That Bill Gates’ Engineer Took Photos of Latino Boys at the Beach. His Child Pornography Files Included Similar Material. | Techrights | Aug 19 05:23 | |
| schestowitz | just saw this dodgy site https://9east71.home.blog/2019/09/10/bill-gates-2/comment-page-1/ | Aug 19 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9east71.home.blog | Bill Gates Flew on Lolita Express and Now Claims His 2 Million Donation to MIT (media “lab”) Didn’t Happen – 971blog | Aug 19 05:26 | |
| schestowitz | "Bill Gates REFUSES to reveal why he flew on Lolita Express with Jeffrey Epstein four years AFTER his release from prison while the billionaire was still chairman of Microsoft" https://9east71.home.blog/2019/08/15/bill-gates/ | Aug 19 05:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-9east71.home.blog | Bill Gates ♥ Jeffrey Epstein – 971blog | Aug 19 05:26 | |
| kingoffrance | well the heart is pretty funny | Aug 19 05:32 |
| kingoffrance | you used to be able to do that with dos charset i think because the high-bit-set had playing cards | Aug 19 05:33 |
| kingoffrance | the suits anyways | Aug 19 05:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you want to crash PACER, just type in "Donald Trump bankruptcy". | Aug 19 05:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Trump Taj Mahal bankruptcy (where the stupid fat pedo lost a billion dollars on a casino) bankruptcy spans 6 pages. | Aug 19 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Considering putting these in RECAP. | Aug 19 05:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He admits he puts his companies in bankruptcy to screw his creditors and walk away. If anyone else said that, their bankruptcy would be reopened and they'd find themselves in handcuffs. | Aug 19 05:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | His buildings are obviously a money laundering front. No businesses ever rented out the first floor of the Trump building in Chicago, even when nobody cared about him one way or the other. | Aug 19 05:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's pretty obvious that with the casino, he thought he could get in with the mafia and drug money launderers. You have shills go in and buy chips. Someone else cashes them in. The casino probably makes money, but the money laundering is bigger. | Aug 19 05:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://news.softpedia.com/news/new-evidence-that-more-windows-users-are-moving-to-linux-530848.shtml | Aug 19 05:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.softpedia.com | New Evidence That More Windows Users Are Moving to Linux | Aug 19 05:50 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2020/08/10/lenovo-new-thinkpad-p53-fedora-linux-laptop/ | Aug 19 05:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Lenovo’s Fedora-Powered ThinkPad P53 Is Everything I Want In A Linux Laptop | Aug 19 05:51 | |
| schestowitz | Task: https://www.astonisher.com/archives/gary_little.html | Aug 19 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.astonisher.com | NO TITLE | Aug 19 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | see if Gary Little and Gates sr. were close | Aug 19 06:00 |
| schestowitz | I heard they're connected through the newspaper owner, I think seattle p-i | Aug 19 06:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/coming-soon/ThinkPad-P15-Mobile-Workstation/p/22WSP15P5N1 | Aug 19 06:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ThinkPad P15 | 15 Inch Workstation Laptop | Lenovo US | Aug 19 06:00 | |
| schestowitz | overpriced | Aug 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fedora or Ubuntu preload according to this. | Aug 19 06:01 |
| schestowitz | ideapad might be enough | Aug 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I have one. | Aug 19 06:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'll probably go back to a ThinkPad. | Aug 19 06:01 |
| schestowitz | "From these he recruited about a half dozen to become "Gary's boys," as the clique that spent time at Little's Sinclair Island summer home became known around school. Most of "Gary's boys" were never involved with him sexually. For them, Little was a dynamic and often very helpful mentor. But it was from this group that he selected his marks, mostly white male boys, with slender builds, fair hair, and blue eyes. The ones he took to bed | Aug 19 06:01 |
| schestowitz | also tended to be the neglected or emotionally abused sons of some of Seattle's most powerful families. That they were emotionally deprived may have made them easier victims, but, peculiarly, that they came from powerful families may also have been instrumental in protecting him from public exposure." | Aug 19 06:01 |
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| schestowitz | "Although the Lakeside student body then included many high-powered talents, including Microsoft founders Bill Gates and Paul Allen, Little surrounded himself with a more mundane crowd of mostly rich kids whose desire for conventional rewards sometimes exceeded their ability to attain them through their own performance." | Aug 19 06:02 |
| schestowitz | I look around William Gates too, the father is sometimes referred to it as such | Aug 19 06:04 |
| schestowitz | "Surely, Bill Gates Sr. and Gary Little must have known each other. More recently, Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after he was accused of" | Aug 19 06:05 |
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| schestowitz | Not a credible site though | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Ironically, the Gates syndicate may be linked to Washington State’s most celebrated pedophile, the late judge Gary Little. The Seattle media did their best to sweep Little’s crimes under the rug, but the stench just kept getting worse. After the Seattle Post-Intelligencer finally outed him, he committed suicide. | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | When I was a teacher, I heard rumors about a pedophile sex-ring based in the Seattle School District’s headquarters that was supposedly run by Little. I’ve also heard rumors linking Bill Gates’ father and even Frank Blethen, owner of the right-wing Seattle Times, to this sex ring. | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | But are these just wild rumors? | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | Gary Little was a teacher at the Lakeside School for Boys about the time its student body included Bill Gates. Which isn’t to say that Little, who was gay, sodomized Bill Gates, though it’s a tantalizing possibility. But it’s also worth noting that Gary Little became a judge, while Bill Gates’ father was a lawyer. In addition, Bill Gates and his father would eventually come to regard the Seattle School District as their | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | personal fiefdom, something I discovered when I first ran for public office in 1999. Surely, Bill Gates Sr. and Gary Little must have known each other. | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 06:06 |
| schestowitz | No substantial connection | Aug 19 06:08 |
| schestowitz | other than crap sites | Aug 19 06:09 |
| schestowitz | connecting hypothetical dots | Aug 19 06:09 |
| schestowitz | Like the sites that say Bill is female | Aug 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz | and Melinda is a man. | Aug 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz | Though you have to admit she did gain quite a few pounds https://local21news.com/news/entertainment/melinda-gates-talks-brash-microsoft-culture-in-new-book | Aug 19 06:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-local21news.com | Melinda Gates talks 'brash' Microsoft culture in new book | WHP | Aug 19 06:12 | |
| schestowitz | or maybe too many Botox injections | Aug 19 06:12 |
| schestowitz | x https://www.economist.com/international/2020/08/18/the-covid-19-pandemic-will-be-over-by-the-end-of-2021-says-bill-gates | Aug 19 06:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A mixed prognosis - The covid-19 pandemic will be over by the end of 2021, says Bill Gates | International | The Economist | Aug 19 06:23 | |
| schestowitz | # bill sez; apparently columns in The Economist are for sale; | Aug 19 06:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It won't be and nobody will hold him accountable and remind the "news" people who gave him tons of press coverage. | Aug 19 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's on the record giving this thing a definite end date now. | Aug 19 06:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody knows when it will end. We hope there's a vaccine that slows it down enough to matter without hurting people. That's it. Dr. Fauci even admits that 50-70% effectiveness is realistic expectations. | Aug 19 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not enough to end it, if it even happens. | Aug 19 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It will just drastically reduce the number of severe cases. Like the flu. | Aug 19 06:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You give people the flu shot. If you gave everyone the flu shot, there would be a flu. | Aug 19 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd go from 40,000 deaths in a typical year to maybe 15,000. | Aug 19 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 15,000 is better than 40,000 but you'd be fucking stupid to declare the end of the flu. | Aug 19 06:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People like my mom have an all or nothing mentality. | Aug 19 06:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You tell her the flu shot is reasonably effective, but you might still get a milder flu, she goes "Oh, what good is it then?". That's a scary level of ignorance for a nurse. | Aug 19 06:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's unbelievable that there are some nurses out there who are vaccine skeptics or that the state even entertains the idea of anti-vaxxers who get to refuse their shots and have a medical license. | Aug 19 06:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Coronavirus vaccine is being rushed and I think that people will need to make a logical risk/benefit assessment, and it makes more sense to give it to old people first because they're in a lot more danger from the virus than a vaccine that was not tested as rigorously as we would have liked. There's going to be a shortage initially anyway. Prioritize older people. | Aug 19 06:33 |
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| schestowitz | "news" as salesmanship, the new business model... | Aug 19 06:44 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I am doing a social graph 'thing' | Aug 19 06:47 |
| schestowitz | trying to see relations I am now aware of | Aug 19 06:47 |
| schestowitz | using photo ops | Aug 19 06:47 |
| schestowitz | so far nothing astounding | Aug 19 06:47 |
| schestowitz | I always tell people... | Aug 19 06:48 |
| schestowitz | photo ops can only become a liability | Aug 19 06:48 |
| schestowitz | the more you take, the higher the risk | Aug 19 06:48 |
| schestowitz | this whole 'status by association' thing is shallow and foolish | Aug 19 06:48 |
| tessier | schestowitz: I have his phone number and I did a little bit of Linux sysadmin work for him about 4 years ago but I really don't care for the guy and do not have any plans to talk to him again. | Aug 19 06:50 |
| tessier | I consider myself lucky to have been paid. | Aug 19 06:51 |
| schestowitz | carmoney would say the same | Aug 19 06:53 |
| schestowitz | earlier this year I caught up with their disputes, tessier | Aug 19 06:53 |
| schestowitz | Can I mention (blob) that thing about the trademark you said? | Aug 19 06:53 |
| schestowitz | without names? | Aug 19 06:53 |
| schestowitz | https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11192277/jeffrey-epstein-secretly-bought-500000-bungalow-in-queens-just-before-his-2006-arrest-for-underage-sex-abuse/ | Aug 19 06:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thesun.co.uk | Jeffrey Epstein ‘secretly bought $500,000 bungalow in Queens just before his 2006 arrest for underage sex abuse’ – The Sun | Aug 19 06:55 | |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | He listed his brother Mark as his lone heir, while Indyke and Kahan were designated executors alongside Boris Nikolic. | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | Nikolic would later recuse himself from that position. | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | " | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | very hard to find info on Nikolic | Aug 19 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <tessier "I consider myself lucky to have "> Yeah, he always has these sketchy schemes that just border on being legal, maybe. | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | or where/why he was so close to him | Aug 19 06:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder how the EMI lawsuit against him personally worked out. | Aug 19 06:55 |
| schestowitz | if you get lucky you might find out how many times they met | Aug 19 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Carmony mentioned that bankrupting mp3tunes wouldn't get him out of the lawsuit in his personal capacity. | Aug 19 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Filing bankruptcy in a personal capacity would, but he'd have to do a chapter 13 plan. | Aug 19 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Depending on what your disposable income looks like, hey....it might be over someday. | Aug 19 06:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine that my solution to my legal and financial problems would work for him. | Aug 19 06:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much the most generous state exemptions might let you keep $12,000-$14,000 in total property excl. your home, and they do exempt your home, but the limits are not "a mansion". | Aug 19 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they do generally include a car, but it's a $3,000-4,000 car. Not a brand new Mercedes-Benz. | Aug 19 06:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Straight bankruptcy works well for people whose assets fall totally within the exemptions allowed by their state, or if they live in one of 17 states that allows them to choose the federal ones, sometimes that can work out better (not usually). | Aug 19 06:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I question the validity of the EMI lawsuit against him in his personal capacity though. | Aug 19 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Running a business, even an LLC, is smart because if anything happens you liquidate that and don't suffer personally too much. | Aug 19 07:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I was looking at Michael Pratt's proposed Chapter 13 plan. | Aug 19 07:02 |
| schestowitz | https://www.scribd.com/document/451949522/Epstein-Deed?secret_password=ikYBmnPngHVtWpjK2RHS#fullscreen&from_embed | Aug 19 07:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scribd.com | Epstein Deed | Aug 19 07:03 | |
| schestowitz | Epstein's executors | Aug 19 07:03 |
| schestowitz | will's | Aug 19 07:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He was going to have to pay the 22 Doe plaintiffs about $8,000 a month for 5 years if it got approved. | Aug 19 07:03 |
| schestowitz | I am checking what originals I can locate | Aug 19 07:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So $480,000 total. | Aug 19 07:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They had been suing him for much more. The court gave them a ruling for $13 million, but he quickly sold all his property for what he could get and transferred the money back to New Zealand. | Aug 19 07:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The bankruptcy judge saw it for what it was and tossed it, so it ended up being $10,000 to file bankruptcy and all he got was this stupid t-shirt. | Aug 19 07:05 |
| schestowitz | I got it | Aug 19 07:05 |
| schestowitz | https://www.scribd.com/document/422423833/Jeffrey-Epstein-will#fullscreen&from_embed | Aug 19 07:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.scribd.com | Jeffrey Epstein will | Trust Law | Probate | Aug 19 07:05 | |
| schestowitz | I want to see the wording | Aug 19 07:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I agree with the legal theory that because porn is obscene and therefore lacks any literary, scientific, or artistic merit, it's not protected by copyright. | Aug 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But money talks. | Aug 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a big industry. | Aug 19 07:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I just don't see how it brings in that much money, honestly. | Aug 19 07:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The size of the industry is bigger than the GDP of some countries. Meanwhile, there are people starving and no healthcare and stuff. | Aug 19 07:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | To top it off, this guy wasn't even an American and USCIS lets him say "porn baron" or something and become a US Citizen? | Aug 19 07:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Anyway.... | Aug 19 07:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Facebook joined The Linux Foundation as a Platinum Member. | Aug 19 07:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | SJVN has been bought in full. | Aug 19 07:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He went yammering on about their "Facebook data for good" program, which spies on people of course. | Aug 19 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's apparently giving things like GPS data to the government through the "data for good" program to track COVID-19 (allegedly). | Aug 19 07:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.macstories.net/news/vlc-for-ios-may-soon-be-gone-from-the-app-store-due-to-videolans-complaint/ | Aug 19 07:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.macstories.net | VLC for iOS May Soon Be Gone From the App Store Due To Videolan's Complaint - MacStories | Aug 19 07:22 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Apple doesn’t want to mess with GPL stuff and notification letters by developers. They have their own terms, their DRM system, their own rules and they won’t change them. As bad as it may sound, they don’t want to waste time with these things, and whether you might argue if this is terribly wrong or the best thing to do when having to deal with 300,000 apps (“let’s impose a single DRM system and forget abo | Aug 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | that’s how Apple works. So yeah, if this copyright infringement debate will go on Apple will remove the app." | Aug 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, that's the point. The GPL 3 protects users from having these nasty conditions foisted on them. | Aug 19 07:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The less good software is available in Apple's store, the bigger the advantage that Android and Linux have because they do let you run it. | Aug 19 07:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.infoq.com/news/2020/08/open-source-security-foundation/ | Aug 19 07:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.infoq.com | Google, Microsoft, GitHub, and Others Join the Open Source Security Foundation | Aug 19 07:24 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Microsoft says open source is more vulnerable because.... | Aug 19 07:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Open-source software is inherently community-driven and as such, there is no central authority responsible for quality and maintenance. [...] Open-source software is also vulnerable to attacks against the very nature of the community, such as attackers becoming maintainers of projects and introducing malware." | Aug 19 07:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | -Mark Russinovich | Aug 19 07:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, we never got security patches before Microsoft. LOL | Aug 19 07:25 |
| schestowitz | [07:17] <DaemonFC[m]> SJVN has been bought in full. | Aug 19 07:31 |
| schestowitz | we know | Aug 19 07:31 |
| oiaohm | Really that statement about open source also underestimates how much git logs and like of cvs logs before means that when you find a defect you can trace back to who added it. | Aug 19 07:36 |
| schestowitz | sigh | Aug 19 07:48 |
| oiaohm | Closed source you do something wrong you name may never publiclly come mud. | Aug 19 07:49 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/08/19/jeffrey-epstein-will-and-death/ | Aug 19 07:49 |
| schestowitz | I figure we'd need originals | Aug 19 07:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Original Document That Shows ‘Executor’ (of the Will) of Jeffrey Epstein is Very Close Associate of Bill Gates | Techrights | Aug 19 07:49 | |
| schestowitz | they're harder to dispute when presented as they are | Aug 19 07:49 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: will you pursue the jones court files? | Aug 19 08:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I'll look into it when I can keep my eyes open. | Aug 19 08:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He seems to have dropped off the radar. | Aug 19 08:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He's not on any sex offender registry that I can tell, and all the addresses seem to be old. I think he's probably living with his mother in Arizona. | Aug 19 08:10 |
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| kingoffrance | "There are no significant bugs in our released software that any significant number of users want fixed," https://www.businessinsider.com/the-dumbest-things-bill-gates-ever-said-2016-4 | Aug 19 08:22 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | The dumbest things Bill Gates ever said - Business Insider | Aug 19 08:22 | |
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| kingoffrance | Gates said in Focus Magazine in 1995. | Aug 19 08:23 |
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| kingoffrance | bear in mind you had to run 3rd party programs to allocate/free memory to prevent memory leaks/fragmentation, at least for the non-nt "home" os | Aug 19 08:23 |
| kingoffrance | if you wanted > x hours or so uptime anyway where x is maybe 8 or 12 or 20 | Aug 19 08:24 |
| kingoffrance | and that was still "iffy" | Aug 19 08:24 |
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| kingoffrance | if you just left it on too long doing anything it would slowly die | Aug 19 08:26 |
| kingoffrance | *nothing | Aug 19 08:26 |
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| zoobab | https://ffii.org/ffii-oppose-the-third-attempt-to-impose-software-patents-in-europe-via-the-upc/ | Aug 19 13:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ffii.org | FFII oppose the third attempt to impose software patents in Europe via the UPC | FFII | Aug 19 13:07 | |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/7WDxfXG.jpg | Aug 19 13:15 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/10/7e50f1a17addd987.jpg | Aug 19 13:40 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: cheers | Aug 19 13:47 |
| schestowitz | will blog that later, linked to it already | Aug 19 13:47 |
| schestowitz | zoobab: https://ffii.org/feed/ | Aug 19 13:48 |
| schestowitz | at last | Aug 19 13:48 |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/20020535 | Aug 19 15:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4333406) | Aug 19 15:19 | |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: awesome | Aug 19 15:36 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | The fake movement to kill Rick & Morty is still being reported as if it were a thing. | Aug 19 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wikipedia's article on Cancel Culture mentions that it might not actually be real. (gaslighting) | Aug 19 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been a thing for decades. | Aug 19 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Parents Television Council" had people watching TV just to complain to the FCC that they were offended as much as possible. | Aug 19 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's why the most offensive episode of Married With Children was the one where Al and Steve go to the sex shop. | Aug 19 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Specifically, the complaint to the FCC mentioned the old man in the women's lingerie and a gay joke that Al made. | Aug 19 18:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was rare in the 90s for gay people to be portrayed on a TV show at all, and if they were, it was as a throwaway gag involving a negative parody. | Aug 19 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think what's going on now is an extreme compensation for that. | Aug 19 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana publishes statistics on marriage, and since 2014, the percentage of marriages that were between two people of the same gender has averaged about 3.66%. | Aug 19 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | With two women being about twice the number of same gender marriages as two men, despite women only being very slightly more of the population. | Aug 19 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My dad would always insist that gay people were less than 1% of the population and a bunch of perverts. | Aug 19 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The smaller the number, the more it affirms it as some sort of deviate conduct. | Aug 19 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "No it's more like 5-6%. It's not that rare.". | Aug 19 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He goes, "Oh, that's just what liberals want you to think.". | Aug 19 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, those famous Indiana liberal politicians and their 3.66% statistic. But like everywhere, marriage on the whole is in swift decline in Indiana. | Aug 19 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Cohabitation is more popular than ever among straight people, so it's likely that the marriage stats still wouldn't adequately reflect society as a whole. | Aug 19 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Marriage is sort of a perk that is afforded to people in situations (especially financial) that allow them to humor themselves by indulging in the thought. | Aug 19 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Humour is disgusting... apparently | Aug 19 18:13 |
| schestowitz | we should just make more CoCs | Aug 19 18:13 |
| schestowitz | and nobody would be hurt any longer... except by BOMBS | Aug 19 18:13 |
| schestowitz | Carl bases it on numbers he saw as a young man | Aug 19 18:13 |
| schestowitz | that number rose since | Aug 19 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When nothing in your life has ever been stable and you're going on 40, are you suddenly going to try to get married? | Aug 19 18:14 |
| schestowitz | marriage is historically a thing | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | for gay couples it's another | Aug 19 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What makes you think your marriage will last when you've been moving apartments every 2 years for your entire life and living out of Goodwill furniture at your peak because you know you'll lose everything every so often and it's not an investment. | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | which is why some people oppose it and have arguments | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | marriage at its culmination was about reproduction | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | with child carer at home | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | and parents passing the girl to a dominant spouse (male) | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | sometimes sold, like cattle | Aug 19 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This generation has had no fiscal stability and so has deferred everything from childbirth to marriage indefinitely. | Aug 19 18:15 |
| schestowitz | more about convenience than love | Aug 19 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many of them will never do either of those. | Aug 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | and the gender roles were more pronounced then, like kitchen versus builders/field plowing (not picking) | Aug 19 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The boomers with their fake news call it "Peter Pan syndrome". | Aug 19 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's an insult. That's not even a funny one or one based slightly in reality. | Aug 19 18:16 |
| schestowitz | it's possible to have fiscal stability is | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | if | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | 1) you spend within means | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | 2) you don't come from a debt-saddled family and can study an occupation | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | sadly, both 1) and 2) are becoming rare | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | and they are related | Aug 19 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mandy has almost worked at Walmart long enough to be covered by unemployment insurance if anything happens to his job. | Aug 19 18:17 |
| schestowitz | when the parents fail on (1) then their kids have slim prospects of rising above it | Aug 19 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Luckily, Illinois still has a more generous UI system that actually gives you a chance at finding a job. | Aug 19 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida maxes out at like $1,000 a month for 3 months. Makes it very hard to file or keep it too. | Aug 19 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That worked out great during the Coronavirus. People there are furious. | Aug 19 18:18 |
| schestowitz | anyway, back to tech... | Aug 19 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They go to file and find out the people they put in charge of the state made a system that is killing them now. | Aug 19 18:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, it's impossible not to have boom bust cycles when your economy is based on debt instead of good salaries. | Aug 19 18:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My parents managed to crash the economy 5 times, including the #1, #2, and #4 worst recessions in US history, in my lifetime. | Aug 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm only 36. | Aug 19 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US is experiencing a correction that takes our economy back to the size it was 20 years ago in the span of a couple of months, with a population much larger, because all the growth since the turn of the century has been fake. | Aug 19 18:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't think of a good reason for these companies like Uber and Tesla to go on indefinitely. | Aug 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's gotta be money laundering involved. | Aug 19 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On the side there's an actual company, but it's gotta be a lot of drug money and stuff in there and people just circulating it through with buy and sell orders to add to the obfuscation of where it came from and where it went. | Aug 19 18:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Investing in a car company that loses almost $10,000 per unit more than a decade in makes no sense on the surface. | Aug 19 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not even like Elon Musk can point to a trend of smaller losses over time that hint that the scale and maturity of the industry will ever be achieved. | Aug 19 18:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It must be nice to just have people handing you money and you go "Aaaand, it's gone." then they just hand you more. | Aug 19 18:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Eric Sandeen (Former SGI, currently at Red Hat.) blogged in like 2010 or something that he bought a Nissan Leaf and that EVs were clearly the future of travel. | Aug 19 18:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I really, really disagree. | Aug 19 18:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Fundamentally, they have a higher TCO because of all the extra components, and those age poorly and you can't be justified fixing something here and there and driving it until the frame is in such bad shape you can't do it anymore. | Aug 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also depend on a conflict mineral that relies on slave labor, with proven reserves of maybe 100 years at best. | Aug 19 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It still has a carbon footprint. You're building twice as many because they're not worth fixing after about 10 years, and you charge them on a grid that runs on coal. | Aug 19 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone with an EV or a Hybrid acts like they're doing something good for the planet and like if you give it 5 years they will e 100% of vehicles on the road. | Aug 19 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like a cult. | Aug 19 18:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For some reason all the new cars need a computerized display to give you the same information that you had with dials and gauges that normally didn't break. | Aug 19 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In some cases, if the display goes out, you have to fix it because you can't adjust the climate controls without it, because there is no climate control head. | Aug 19 18:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not everything needs to or should have a computer in it, but companies love sticking computers in things because in a few years it'll be unusable that way and they can force you to buy a new appliance. | Aug 19 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "To believe in something just because you're afraid of the consequences makes no sense at all." | Aug 19 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | South Park really must have set the Christians off with this. | Aug 19 20:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Kyle's parents explain that the Christians just use Hell to scare people into believing what they say. | Aug 19 20:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ruling by fear is detestable. | Aug 19 20:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The percentage of Americans that openly claim to have "no religion in particular" has gone up about 4x since 1991. | Aug 19 20:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you ask my mom, this is why things have gotten so bad. yet, if you ask her why there were race wars and Vietnam and a lot of other bad stuff when she was a kid, she says "Oh, things have always been bad.". | Aug 19 20:11 |
| XRevan86 | "I believe in no religion in particular, just in the general vibe that magic exists and rules our lives" | Aug 19 20:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So all hell is breaking loose now because 28% of Americans don't believe in a religion, but all hell was breaking loose in the 60s because that's just the way things go. | Aug 19 20:11 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, magic is cool dude! | Aug 19 21:53 |
| *XRevan86 throws a fireball at scientes | Aug 19 21:54 | |
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| *scientes counters with a snowball | Aug 19 21:58 | |
| XRevan86 | scientes: that's really cool | Aug 19 21:58 |
| scientes | cool down bro | Aug 19 21:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/08/18/investing/citibank-sues-brigade-capital/index.html | Aug 19 21:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amp.cnn.com | Citibank sent a hedge fund $175 million by mistake - CNN | Aug 19 21:59 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | So that's $900 million and $175 million in at least two incidents | Aug 19 21:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They also mistakenly doubled my credit limit last year. | Aug 19 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Thats what you get when fancy computer software makes loan decisions. | Aug 19 22:00 |
| scientes | that's nothing compared to the trillions being printed | Aug 19 22:00 |
| scientes | (and is why I still have DaemonFC[m] ignored) | Aug 19 22:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If their Hey Hi bothered to analyze ehat was going on it would have cut their losses by at least $10,000 and those are on credit card accounts on one person. | Aug 19 22:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their losses actually doubled what they should have been. Hey Hi shluld have cut the cards down to amount due when they noticed things going in the wrong direction on accounts that had been transaction only for many years. | Aug 19 22:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They throw bigger credit lines at people the algorithms say are in trouble because they know that many people will keep going and get hit with huge penalties. | Aug 19 22:04 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.techrepublic.com/google-amp/article/why-mozillas-layoffs-and-google-news-made-me-rethink-my-browser-of-choice/ | Aug 19 23:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Why Mozilla's layoffs and Google deal made me rethink my browser of choice - TechRepublic | Aug 19 23:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Longtime Firefox user Jack Wallen shares his thoughts about Mozilla's recent news and says he has a new default browser: Vivaldi." | Aug 19 23:02 |
| *XRevan86 takes a deep breath. | Aug 19 23:02 | |
| XRevan86 | > I realize it's not open source, but my mantra is: The best tool for the job. | Aug 19 23:03 |
| XRevan86 | > I use the following browsers on a daily basis: | Aug 19 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | > Vivaldi on my Linux desktop | Aug 19 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | > Chrome on my Chromebook and Android devices, as well as on my desktop for one particular task | Aug 19 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | > Safari on my MacBook Pro | Aug 19 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: What a longtime Firefox user. | Aug 19 23:06 |
| XRevan86 | > So for me, the migration away from Firefox was only difficult in that it was the last open source browser I was using. | Aug 19 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | Nah, do your thing, free software sucks and stuff. | Aug 19 23:07 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: It is concerning that Mozilla loses users (albeit, it's done here for quasi-political reasons, so not really telling of the general demographic), however, this person doesn't value free software whatsoever, so his opinions don't do anything but rub my inner defensiveness. | Aug 19 23:11 |
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| MinceR | 20 000730 < XRevan86> Nah, do your thing, free software sucks and stuff. | Aug 19 23:15 |
| MinceR | mozilla agrees. | Aug 19 23:15 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: By the way, have you heard that they're moving Rust into a separate foundation, and one of the reasons stated for doing that is to make a different trademark policy for it? | Aug 19 23:18 |
| MinceR | interesting | Aug 19 23:29 |
| MinceR | will it be a "no trademark policy" policy? | Aug 19 23:29 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Even Linux and Debian have trademark policies, so probably not. | Aug 19 23:31 |
| MinceR | i was hoping for a more trustworthy example :> | Aug 19 23:41 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Apple is interested in Rust. | Aug 19 23:45 |
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| MinceR | bad news for rust | Aug 19 23:50 |
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