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DaemonFC[m]He goes, "Yeah, but that's not where we're focused.".Jul 21 00:00
schestowitzIn Nice France a person didn't need even a weapon to kill like 70Jul 21 00:00
schestowitzjust rent a lorry (truck)Jul 21 00:00
schestowitznot even a very good oneJul 21 00:00
schestowitzand it was the first of severalJul 21 00:00
schestowitzinspired several moreJul 21 00:00
schestowitzthen they implement, belatedly, some emergency brakesJul 21 00:01
schestowitzwhich older models would not have anywayJul 21 00:01
schestowitzhere in Manchester they put barricades around busy places like Town HallJul 21 00:01
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Which is why it's where they'd hit. That's how they think.".Jul 21 00:01
DaemonFC[m]"Then the TSA is the reason there were so many people killed waiting to get their shampoo dumped out."Jul 21 00:01
schestowitzso it's just defacing the city, based on perceived threat and solutionJul 21 00:01
DaemonFC[m]They're ridiculous and they waste a ton of money and hire idiots.Jul 21 00:02
DaemonFC[m]The more idiots they hire at TSA the lower unemployment looks, so no trouble!Jul 21 00:02
schestowitzwhen I was young air travel was fasterJul 21 00:02
schestowitzshorter queueJul 21 00:02
schestowitzyou could arrive laterJul 21 00:02
schestowitzless "theatre"Jul 21 00:02
DaemonFC[m]You get rid of TSA and 250,000 unemployable people go piling in to add to those looking for a real job.Jul 21 00:02
schestowitzso now you leave the house earlierJul 21 00:02
schestowitzfor more inconvenienceJul 21 00:03
schestowitzthe planes themselves hardly got faster... Concorde got axedJul 21 00:03
schestowitztsa employs this many?!Jul 21 00:03
schestowitzhow many airports are in the us?Jul 21 00:03
schestowitzlike 200?Jul 21 00:03
schestowitzhow many tsa agents needed for each?Jul 21 00:04
schestowitzsurely not a thousand!Jul 21 00:04
DaemonFC[m]They harass people all over the goddamned placeJul 21 00:04
schestowitzand it's for intl' flights mostlyJul 21 00:04
DaemonFC[m]They have "VIPR" teams checking public transit and Greyhound sometimes.Jul 21 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Setting up checkpoints for no reason on freeways.Jul 21 00:04
schestowitzmission creepJul 21 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Absolutely. Jul 21 00:04
schestowitzTrump SS AgencyJul 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They have undercovers called BDOs. They got rid of them except not really.Jul 21 00:05
*schestowitz just uploaded irc logs with john's name in tactJul 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]They're supposed to find people who are "behaving suspiciously".Jul 21 00:05
schestowitzpseudoscienceJul 21 00:05
schestowitzmany would be false-flaggedJul 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: John told me everything the BDOs are looking for.Jul 21 00:05
schestowitzfalse positiveJul 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]It's pretty much what you'd expect. Jul 21 00:05
DaemonFC[m]People who are jittery before a flight could be pulled in and questioned.Jul 21 00:06
schestowitz"oh, sorry, you were just sweating because you're overweight... sorry about that"Jul 21 00:06
DaemonFC[m]The TSA isn't looking for drugs.Jul 21 00:06
schestowitzanother excuse to hassle and harass peopleJul 21 00:06
DaemonFC[m]If they happen to find some they're supposed to call the cops.Jul 21 00:07
schestowitzterrorists in airport are like one in several billionsJul 21 00:07
schestowitzbut hey, who cares...Jul 21 00:07
schestowitzlet's harass millions of people per dayJul 21 00:07
schestowitzand maybe catch one terrorist in one decadeJul 21 00:07
schestowitzlet's also fry people with x-raysJul 21 00:07
DaemonFC[m]You could hide some THC gummies in with regular gummy worms and stuff and if they look just say you're hypoglycemic and you need it for medical reasons.Jul 21 00:07
schestowitzgiving some of them cancersJul 21 00:07
DaemonFC[m]It would show up as an organic mass, but it looks like candy.Jul 21 00:07
DaemonFC[m]You have an even better shot at pulling this off if you only do it when you get precheck.Jul 21 00:08
DaemonFC[m]You'll know if you do because it's on the ticket.Jul 21 00:08
DaemonFC[m]There's a 5% chance you'll be told to go to the regular line though.Jul 21 00:08
schestowitz"precheck" = the old wayJul 21 00:08
DaemonFC[m]Yes, a metal detector and running your bag through the x-ray.Jul 21 00:09
DaemonFC[m]I got it sometimes. They do a background check on you first.Jul 21 00:09
DaemonFC[m]They determined that I was low risk.Jul 21 00:09
schestowitz"Who packed your bag?"Jul 21 00:09
schestowitzNot funny, sir, you must be a terrorristJul 21 00:09
schestowitz"are you a terrorist, sir?"Jul 21 00:09
schestowitzNo, sirJul 21 00:09
schestowitzoK, then.... go on..Jul 21 00:10
schestowitzmore pseudoscienceJul 21 00:10
schestowitztesting people with wordsJul 21 00:10
schestowitzand dealing with a million false/wrong escalations a dayJul 21 00:10
schestowitzasking lots of followup questions (interrogation)Jul 21 00:10
schestowitzwhen there was no truly good reason for it in the first placeJul 21 00:10
schestowitzmaybe you're a tactless kid Jul 21 00:11
schestowitzwho grew up with a "smart" phone, never facing people and looking them in the eyesJul 21 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Mandy got his discount card for Walmart today.Jul 21 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Says 20% at the vision center. +2% from the credit card. Well, I guess I should probably get around to an eye exam.Jul 21 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Maybe in a few more months. See if this COVID mess starts slowing down.Jul 21 00:13
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: They sent some mail to John at my PO Box regarding payments he made on that stupid car. Jul 21 00:14
DaemonFC[m]I'll just hand it back to the guy at the counter when I get over there to check the mail.Jul 21 00:15
DaemonFC[m]He's been using Western Union to pay the car payment lately and they're sending me receipts. I didn't get one this month because the bankruptcy got rid of that problem.Jul 21 00:15
schestowitzsounds like mandy takes good care of the household (well, motel)Jul 21 00:15
DaemonFC[m]Put all your financial problems behind the blast door and let them explode there. Jul 21 00:16
DaemonFC[m]:/Jul 21 00:16
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Getting rid of all of that debt makes the situation much more stable.Jul 21 00:16
DaemonFC[m]Now I can plan for the future without watching my back for when the lawsuits start.Jul 21 00:16
schestowitzget a stimulusJul 21 00:16
schestowitzbailoutJul 21 00:16
schestowitzit's not lootingJul 21 00:17
schestowitzregister as an airlineJul 21 00:17
schestowitzthis week: https://truthout.org/articles/top-us-airlines-plan-thousands-of-layoffs-when-cares-act-ban-expires/Jul 21 00:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Top US Airlines Plan Thousands of Layoffs When CARES Act Ban ExpiresJul 21 00:17
schestowitzlolJul 21 00:17
schestowitzland of opportunityJul 21 00:17
schestowitzto screw the taxpayersJul 21 00:17
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There might be another stimulus check for us.Jul 21 00:17
schestowitzfor shareholder who made a bad investmentJul 21 00:17
schestowitzin a dying industryJul 21 00:17
DaemonFC[m]I suppose we'll probably hoard that one too or catch up with whatever current bills there are. Jul 21 00:17
schestowitztheir insurance policy is bribes for Trump and taxpayers being screwed by trumpJul 21 00:18
DaemonFC[m]It's not going to stimulate anything because it'll just sit there. Jul 21 00:18
schestowitzanother 5 trillion in ntl' debtJul 21 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Why would you spend money that you might need later? Of course by not making this a regular payment for the duration, people are seeing it as something to sit on while they wait and see.Jul 21 00:18
schestowitzThese "stimulus" things as BSJul 21 00:18
schestowitzthey're borrowingsJul 21 00:18
DaemonFC[m]That's how recessions get worse.Jul 21 00:18
schestowitzyou borrow from the taxpayer i.e. youJul 21 00:19
schestowitzyou kick the debt can further down the roadJul 21 00:19
schestowitzand if you don't pay, offsprings willJul 21 00:19
schestowitzor there will be  a big war to offset all thatJul 21 00:19
DaemonFC[m]The only thing about Trump that's been pretty okay so far is that he doesn't seem to be in the mood for war.Jul 21 00:19
schestowitzTrump gives you permission to borrow from your futureJul 21 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Which is, of course, why he must go, to the neocons like Bolton.Jul 21 00:20
schestowitzwhat a deal!Jul 21 00:20
schestowitz"letssssa make a deal!"Jul 21 00:20
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Of course, by pulling back there may actually be a war because of that, and we'll be more likely to lose it.Jul 21 00:20
schestowitzTrump does warJul 21 00:20
schestowitzthis is BSJul 21 00:20
schestowitzhe bombs more than anyoneJul 21 00:20
schestowitzthe media doesn't talk about itJul 21 00:20
schestowitzhe also uses alternative means of warJul 21 00:21
schestowitzlike sanctions that kil;Jul 21 00:21
DaemonFC[m]He's pulling so many people out of South Korea that North Korea might view it as their best opportunity for an invasion in decades.Jul 21 00:21
schestowitzcuba, iran, china, venezuelaJul 21 00:21
schestowitzdon't relay maga lies about trump being antiwarJul 21 00:21
schestowitzit's bsdJul 21 00:21
schestowitzbsJul 21 00:21
schestowitzpure fictoonJul 21 00:21
schestowitzfictionJul 21 00:21
DaemonFC[m]North Korea's best bet is to just let Trump keep screwing our allies and then come pouring over the 38th as soon as we're gone. Jul 21 00:21
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: they're relocatedJul 21 00:21
schestowitzto other strategic areasJul 21 00:21
schestowitzhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/22/okinawa-residents-warned-chlorine-gas-exposure-after-fire-erupts-us-military-hazmatJul 21 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Okinawa Residents Warned of Chlorine Gas Exposure After Fire Erupts at US Military Hazmat Facility | Common Dreams NewsJul 21 00:22
DaemonFC[m]The Korean War is in a long pause that likely won't continue forever.Jul 21 00:22
schestowitzlast week: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/13/extremely-regrettable-okinawa-governor-rips-us-letting-covid-19-infections-surgeJul 21 00:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'Extremely Regrettable': Okinawa Governor Rips US for Letting Covid-19 Infections Surge on American Military Bases | Common Dreams NewsJul 21 00:22
DaemonFC[m]Say what you want about Asians, they seem to be good at holding a grudge.Jul 21 00:22
schestowitzwhich asians?Jul 21 00:23
schestowitzasians are half of the world's populationJul 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]The Chinese/Taiwan thing. The North and South Korea thing.Jul 21 00:23
schestowitzthat's like saying, women are all cattyJul 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Both sides keep claiming the other side's territory and vowing to take it back eventually.Jul 21 00:23
DaemonFC[m]They just haven't gotten around to it, but they will!Jul 21 00:24
schestowitzthat's no different them some western conflictsJul 21 00:24
schestowitzlike east UkraineJul 21 00:24
schestowitzor HawaiiJul 21 00:24
DaemonFC[m]China would invade Taiwan if they didn't think they'd take heavy losses and risk starting a world war, so for now no invasion.Jul 21 00:25
DaemonFC[m]Trump is making one much more likely though.Jul 21 00:25
schestowitzthey don't need to invadeJul 21 00:26
schestowitzthey slowly brainwashJul 21 00:26
schestowitzand use cultural warJul 21 00:26
schestowitzlike they do in HKJul 21 00:26
schestowitzin many ways Beijing already controls themJul 21 00:26
schestowitzfinancially alsoJul 21 00:26
schestowitzthey're sort of partly independentJul 21 00:26
schestowitzin their mindsJul 21 00:26
schestowitzlike some British "territories"Jul 21 00:27
DaemonFC[m]Yes, many of their corporations are so integrated that it seems to function as a single economy almost, in many ways.Jul 21 00:27
schestowitzTaiwan does manufacturing in the mainland, sometimes TaipeiJul 21 00:27
schestowitzin Taipei and New Taipei the pay is higherJul 21 00:28
schestowitzso they import workers which they treat like dirt Jul 21 00:28
schestowitzthen toss them out when doneJul 21 00:28
schestowitzwhen the chemicals did their damage (to workers)Jul 21 00:28
schestowitzJapan became the sameJul 21 00:28
schestowitzJapan is scaryJul 21 00:28
schestowitzpeople overworkedJul 21 00:28
DaemonFC[m]There's billions of people in the world. I worry about Mandy in particular for the same general reason I worry about my cats more than a stray. We ignore horrible things happening to people in bulk because we "didn't know them". It's not personal.Jul 21 00:29
schestowitzand the country has in debt 2.5 times what the whole country/economy is worthJul 21 00:29
schestowitzso there's no capacity for more productivityJul 21 00:29
DaemonFC[m]It's too much of a problem for us to solve no matter how much we would worry about it.Jul 21 00:29
DaemonFC[m]So we go numb to it.Jul 21 00:29
schestowitzvietnamJul 21 00:29
schestowitzDarfurJul 21 00:30
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schestowitzhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_DarfurJul 21 00:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | War in Darfur - WikipediaJul 21 00:30
schestowitzno oil, no helpJul 21 00:30
DaemonFC[m]The banks have ruined most governments, including the US.Jul 21 00:30
schestowitz"Good luck with aaaaaallll thhhhaat"Jul 21 00:30
DaemonFC[m]The Vampire Squid problem. You're talking about that.Jul 21 00:30
schestowitz"The government responded to attacks by carrying out a campaign of ethnic cleansing against Darfur's non-Arabs. This resulted in the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians and the indictment of Sudan's president, Omar al-Bashir, for genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity by the International Criminal Court"Jul 21 00:31
DaemonFC[m]Say thee "exifcleaner" thing. Yes, I scrub metadata out of JPEGs that I save.Jul 21 00:34
DaemonFC[m]It's basically useless and it takes up space and adds to the uniqueness of the file.Jul 21 00:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Allegedly, Microsoft's PhotoDNA "solves" for the hashing problem where slight changes to the photo change the hash of the photo.Jul 21 00:35
DaemonFC[m]Since there's no way for the public to get a copy and figure out exactly what that means.....Jul 21 00:35
DaemonFC[m]I don't know why anyone would be stupid enough to create evidence of themselves committing a crime in the way that the detective described.Jul 21 00:36
DaemonFC[m]If the person is in a photo or video in any way, it's not difficult to prove it was them. Jul 21 00:37
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: RMS mentions that smartphones can be turned into bugs.Jul 21 00:39
DaemonFC[m]Theoretically, they could also be listening for various waveforms and alerting Google if it hears them.Jul 21 00:40
DaemonFC[m]They already do this to mute Facebook videos if a copyrighted song is playing in the background.Jul 21 00:40
DaemonFC[m]My guess is that they could easily adapt this so that it could pick up on the audio track from video files, or just various audio files that are playing in the room in general.Jul 21 00:41
DaemonFC[m]An educated guess would be that the police could get more automated reports because someone is playing such a video with a certain audio track in the same room as their smartphone.Jul 21 00:42
schestowitzaudio signaturesJul 21 00:43
schestowitzor someone else's "Smart" phoneJul 21 00:43
DaemonFC[m]If you can put hundreds of thousands of songs in a copyright database, you could play tens of thousands of videos and train the system to recognize when one is playing in the same room as a smartphone.Jul 21 00:43
schestowitzthese are many devices out there with microphones now... more than peopleJul 21 00:44
schestowitzand all of them are connected all the timeJul 21 00:44
DaemonFC[m]Exactly.Jul 21 00:44
schestowitzthey want to impose "smart" meter on every home in the UK by 2024 iircJul 21 00:44
schestowitzwe pay more for power... to aVOID theseJul 21 00:45
schestowitzand then they tell me, well... eventually it's mandatoryJul 21 00:45
schestowitzI'm like, we'll seeJul 21 00:45
schestowitzthere's growing resistance to these thingsJul 21 00:45
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's not difficult to see how this could be used to catch people who watch CP. They play the video and the smartphone realizes what it is and tells Google, and reports its GPS coordinates. Jul 21 00:45
schestowitzbacklash based on better understandingJul 21 00:45
schestowitzI don't need bugs in my corridorsJul 21 00:45
schestowitzthese things are NOT there to help meJul 21 00:45
schestowitzjust as speaking to the police CANNOT POSSIBLY help youJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC[m]No it can't.Jul 21 00:46
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2019/11/10/cancel-the-linux-foundation/Jul 21 00:46
schestowitzlolJul 21 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation Brought as Keynote Speakers People Vastly Worse Than Those Whom It Now ‘Cancels’ for Purely Political Reasons | TechrightsJul 21 00:46
DaemonFC[m]You should never speak to them. If you have a statement, it should go through your lawyer.Jul 21 00:46
schestowitzjust reread that againJul 21 00:46
schestowitzI really ought to write articles nowJul 21 00:46
schestowitzcatch up with you laterJul 21 00:47
schestowitzmy regards to mandyJul 21 00:47
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200720.html#tJul%2020%2021:08:00Jul 21 01:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Monday, July 20, 2020Jul 21 01:18
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I laughed when South Park made fun of the TSA with that fat pervert who was jerking off to the video cameras they installed in people's homes.Jul 21 01:21
DaemonFC[m]"John"Jul 21 01:21
schestowitzmy next article quotes your rants about WindowsJul 21 01:25
schestowitzJohn is well endowed with CPJul 21 01:25
schestowitzto make up for somethingJul 21 01:25
schestowitzgrabbing people's pricks in the airportJul 21 01:26
schestowitzbecause he didn't get offJul 21 01:26
schestowitzno reply from TSA yetJul 21 01:26
schestowitzI doubt they careJul 21 01:26
DaemonFC[m]Probably not. Jul 21 01:28
schestowitzthey have a monopoly anywayJul 21 01:30
schestowitztsa has no real competitionJul 21 01:30
DaemonFC[m]In most cases, no they don't.Jul 21 01:31
DaemonFC[m]They're privatized in a few cities though..Jul 21 01:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The AFGE union that represents them usually has an official arrested for a ffelony about every month.Jul 21 01:32
schestowitzprivatised with competition is even worseJul 21 01:34
DaemonFC[m]My guess John is about to have his own bankruptcy. Jul 21 01:34
schestowitzno tender/competing for gov. contractJul 21 01:34
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine how he's paying for two car loans at once.Jul 21 01:34
schestowitz*with no competiobJul 21 01:34
schestowitzmaybe he sells CPJul 21 01:34
schestowitzthe media reported that Jones was "trading" CPJul 21 01:34
schestowitzthe police records we have so far do not prove he was paid for itJul 21 01:35
schestowitzbut let's see what the next 11 installments showJul 21 01:35
schestowitzit might already be in my email boxJul 21 01:35
DaemonFC[m]With Mr. Wong, for sure.Jul 21 01:35
schestowitzbut I have not checked email in over a dayJul 21 01:35
DaemonFC[m]Who knows what what was going on? The detective said sexual relatiionship.Jul 21 01:35
DaemonFC[m]They were probably just getting each other revved up with it. Jul 21 01:36
schestowitzhe had tapes of some asian things at his apartmentJul 21 01:36
schestowitzthey only made photos of itJul 21 01:36
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine porn as a way to get "revved up" for someone I'm not attracted to. Any sort of it.Jul 21 01:37
DaemonFC[m]It kind of makes me laugh when porn is brought in to get one or both partners in the mood. Means they don't like each other/not attracted, and have to fantasize about something else while they're doing it.Jul 21 01:38
DaemonFC[m]I understand the idea and I also understand why you would.Jul 21 01:38
DaemonFC[m]It's just that if I had to, I wouldn't be doing anything with that person.Jul 21 01:38
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "he had tapes of some asian thing"> John Salinas had a horse-sized dildo that someone set sail upon the lake.Jul 21 01:39
DaemonFC[m]My mom was over one evening and asked what that banging noise was. I said, "It's John.".Jul 21 01:39
DaemonFC[m]That was when she was staying with me before I moved out so that John wouldn't try to call the police and get me in trouble again.Jul 21 01:40
DaemonFC[m]He kept implying that he was considering it, so I decided to get out before he had the chance. Jul 21 01:40
DaemonFC[m]He said, "I'd be careful if I was you. If I want you out, all I have to do is pick up the phone and call the Fox Lake police and tell them anything I want. Who will they believe?".Jul 21 01:40
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: One of the questions he asked while I was having lunch with him in public later was where his dildo went.Jul 21 01:41
DaemonFC[m]I started singing the opening song for Gilligan's Island.Jul 21 01:42
schestowitzTSA: only the bestest people!Jul 21 01:43
DaemonFC[m]I was only making the car payment for a few months after I moved out so he would shut the hell up while I was waiting for my attorney to negotiate the plea deal.Jul 21 01:43
DaemonFC[m]After I signed the plea deal I stopped making the payments.Jul 21 01:43
DaemonFC[m]My attorney told me that while the law didn't require any cooperation from John or his illegal immigrant Grindr buddy, Luis.....Jul 21 01:44
DaemonFC[m]It wouldn't help my case if they were screaming at them to do something about me.Jul 21 01:44
DaemonFC[m]So I decided that John should think it was over and that he won and that his best outcome was for nothing too bad to come of me.Jul 21 01:45
*schestowitz works on "In Microsoft Windows the Police May Get Access to All the Files (and That’s Almost Impossible to Stop, It’s Very Difficult to Prevent This)"Jul 21 01:45
schestowitzwant to help me ghost/proofread?Jul 21 01:45
schestowitzit's quoting a lot of youJul 21 01:46
DaemonFC[m]Yeah.Jul 21 01:46
DaemonFC[m]I think that this OneDrive thing is pretty bad, but GNOME encourages leaks as well.Jul 21 01:46
DaemonFC[m]It does ask for your Google and Microsoft and Facebook accounts and connects them to GNOME if you let it.Jul 21 01:46
DaemonFC[m]It also has "telemetry" now.Jul 21 01:46
schestowitzsee if you can spot typos: http://techrights.org/2020/07/20/windows-orwell/Jul 21 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | In Microsoft Windows the Police May Get Access to All the Files (and That’s Almost Impossible to Stop, It’s Very Difficult to Prevent This) | TechrightsJul 21 01:46
schestowitzdo a quick pass, check the English, I have not proofread it yetJul 21 01:47
DaemonFC[m]If you give it your Google account, your GDrive appears in Nautilus.Jul 21 01:47
schestowitzyupJul 21 01:47
schestowitzgnome is no goodJul 21 01:47
schestowitzdecides too much 'for' the userJul 21 01:47
DaemonFC[m]"surround themselves by loyal "Jul 21 01:49
DaemonFC[m]should be "with"Jul 21 01:49
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was pretty grossed out that Android "offers" to "back up" photos that you download from the web too, using Firefox.Jul 21 01:51
DaemonFC[m]Anything it finds on the file system, really.Jul 21 01:51
DaemonFC[m]When I made screenshots of Grindr, I would find them uploaded without my knowledge into my Google Drive. Jul 21 01:51
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DaemonFC[m]In that case, it was to prove that John was logged in to Grindr all the way to my mom's house in Indiana and back, because it was feeding me GPS coordinates of where he was because of a bug in the system.Jul 21 01:52
DaemonFC[m]But if you snapshot someone's nudes, for example, you would also obviously end up with them being uploaded to and scanned by Google.Jul 21 01:53
schestowitzthanks, grammar correctedJul 21 01:54
schestowitzI also corrected some more typos along the wayJul 21 01:54
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I use Kubuntu now.Jul 21 01:54
DaemonFC[m]Fedora drove me off with that disgusting spectacle and some bugs that nobody cared to fix.Jul 21 01:55
schestowitzwow, that was fastJul 21 01:55
schestowitzis fedora-kde a red hat thing or volunteer?Jul 21 01:56
schestowitzsurely by association with the trademark they're already controlled by the council, i..e. IBMJul 21 01:56
schestowitzso it's an illusion of autonomy, at bestJul 21 01:56
DaemonFC[m]The KDE SIG is volunteers, but none of them appear to even use Fedora anything as their primary computer.Jul 21 01:57
DaemonFC[m]Lots of Edge on Windows 10 and Safari on Macs. "Element" (Riot) tells you what people use.Jul 21 01:58
schestowitznot just erick?Jul 21 01:58
schestowitzerich?Jul 21 01:58
schestowitzI guess kofler was a "real" gnu/linux userJul 21 01:58
schestowitzso he had to goJul 21 01:58
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "surely by association with the t"> Yes, the people who seem to make the decision about Kofler were Fedora council people, I think. Who else would be able to just delete a fesco ticket that fast?Jul 21 01:58
schestowitzjust like in 'linux' foundationJul 21 01:58
schestowitzwhere they get rid of those who ACTUALLY care about Linux and USE itJul 21 01:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There's another one named Kudo something or other.Jul 21 01:59
DaemonFC[m]He was Safari on Mac and part of the SIG.Jul 21 01:59
schestowitzI suppose you can't say "hed rat" thereJul 21 01:59
schestowitzthat would be racist to ratsJul 21 02:00
schestowitzand sexist because of the hed... or something...Jul 21 02:00
schestowitzThe Free software revolution won't be televised, it'll be socially-engineeredJul 21 02:01
DaemonFC[m]I was warned about the CoC for saying I was disgusted by Nvidia and as soon as hardware with a real Linux driver was out I switched to it and compiled my own kernels at first so that it would work as well as possible.Jul 21 02:01
DaemonFC[m]That would be AMD btw, their RadeonHD 5000 series. Excellent architecture.Jul 21 02:01
schestowitzdo you have a screenshot of that coc incident?Jul 21 02:02
schestowitzand nvidia?Jul 21 02:02
schestowitzcould it be your support of kofler that added to this?Jul 21 02:02
DaemonFC[m]I didn't screenshot it. No. I disconnected from the Fedora rooms after that.Jul 21 02:03
DaemonFC[m]I figured I could say whatever I wanted and leave because what were they going to do>Jul 21 02:03
schestowitzso you became ruder, I guessJul 21 02:04
schestowitzand then ragequitJul 21 02:04
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schestowitzRe: Version 5Jul 21 02:08
schestowitz>> Every project starts as a small experiment or hack.Jul 21 02:08
schestowitz> That's what I try to explain to people.Jul 21 02:08
schestowitzsomeone I know is developing an editor nowJul 21 02:09
DaemonFC[m]If I was Microsoft I'd probably start cleaning up the Windows Runtime mess and discontinue the store.Jul 21 02:09
DaemonFC[m]Move the API that made sense over to the Win32 space. Jul 21 02:09
DaemonFC[m]The store has gotta be costing them more than they're getting out of it, and frankly consumers and developers just don't "see the value". I ran into a discussion about how the store is falling apart so badly that some people wrote workarounds to get games to start by going -around- it. Jul 21 02:11
DaemonFC[m]There's already an app store that people use on Windows a lot. Valve beat Microsoft to it by about 10 years.Jul 21 02:11
DaemonFC[m]As a developer, up front you're paying Steam almost as much as Microsoft, but you get a lot more control over your software distribution, and it's not breaking down all the time and getting your customers to hate you with problems you can't fix because it's Microsoft's fault.Jul 21 02:13
DaemonFC[m]Also, you get to capture the consumer surplus, as economists would call it. More people are definitely moving to non-Windows platforms than from them, and they get to take their Steam library with them. Native or Proton. Doesn't matter much as long as it works.Jul 21 02:14
DaemonFC[m]So Microsoft is being beaten to death on their own platform too (the PC) and other than a few first party games and partner stuff, the Windows Store is a total flop for AAA games and software titles.Jul 21 02:14
DaemonFC[m]Valve doesn't really need Linux or Mac to be huge to make money off of them. They can work on Proton instead of convincing developers to port, and honestly... Who cares as long as it works?Jul 21 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Convincing developers to port has for the most part been a lost cause. Either they just say no, or they do it so poorly that it's worse than running it in Wine. (Usually.)Jul 21 02:16
DaemonFC[m]I like the idea of Steam because it's making a lot of people rethink Windows. Like, "I'm putting up with this and it's not even necessary for gaming anymore.".Jul 21 02:17
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MinceRthe mainstream videogame industry is pretty much a lost cause at this pointJul 21 02:17
DaemonFC[m]There's a lot of independent developers who host on Steam that I've seen.Jul 21 02:18
MinceRthey develop extremely dumbed down shitty skinner boxes full of microtransaction and lootbox bullshit, DRM, having to be online to play single player, the inability to run your own multiplayer servers, the inability to save/load games, etc.Jul 21 02:18
MinceRand they rarely support GNU/Linux, if everJul 21 02:19
DaemonFC[m]Back when it was more like the RIAA and CDs before the internet, if you couldn't convince a major publisher, you pretty much went nowhere. The indie stuff had channels, like convincing Shareware CD-ROMs to include a trial copy.Jul 21 02:19
DaemonFC[m]You had to mail order for the full thing and it cost more because they had to make physical media and mail it to you.Jul 21 02:19
DaemonFC[m]Online for single player is the worst thing I've seen them do. Even for their sake.Jul 21 02:20
DaemonFC[m]It just destroys your customer's perception of you.Jul 21 02:20
schestowitz"Audio on Linux can still be a pain in the ass, but at least it won't offend you now "Jul 21 02:20
schestowitzLOL https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/latest-phoronix-articles/1195264-linux-sound-subsystem-begins-cleaning-up-its-terminology-to-meet-inclusive-guidelinesJul 21 02:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Sound Subsystem Begins Cleaning Up Its Terminology To Meet Inclusive Guidelines - Phoronix ForumsJul 21 02:20
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MinceRbroken software offends meJul 21 02:23
MinceRso they'd better get to workJul 21 02:23
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: The slaves in ALSA have been freed.Jul 21 02:26
DaemonFC[m]be happy.Jul 21 02:26
MinceRthat doesn't make me happyJul 21 02:26
MinceRalso, all "modern" browsers being fucking broken makes me unhappyJul 21 02:27
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Seamonkey 2.49.5 is the last one that supported ALSA with no Pulseaudio.Jul 21 02:27
DaemonFC[m]Or Windows XP, for that matter.Jul 21 02:27
MinceRi restarted crashium because it was doing malicious compliance on opening new tabsJul 21 02:28
MinceRand it didn't save my sessionJul 21 02:28
MinceRthe last session it got was from 12 days agoJul 21 02:28
DaemonFC[m]Canonical managed to make Chromium even more repulsive.Jul 21 02:28
DaemonFC[m]They made the DEB version a metapackage that tells Snap to install it.Jul 21 02:28
DaemonFC[m]So if you used the DEB package, it would quietly "upgrade" you to the Snap behind your back.Jul 21 02:29
MinceRyeah, but if you use ubunturd, you expect brokennessJul 21 02:29
DaemonFC[m]Canonical said that it reduced their maintenance burden because they no longer have to maintain Chromium for 3 supported versions of Ubuntu.Jul 21 02:29
DaemonFC[m]I'm considering switching to the ESR branch of Firefox.Jul 21 02:31
DaemonFC[m]I can't imagine why their LTS version doesn't just have that.Jul 21 02:31
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DaemonFC[m]Mozilla went crazy a long time ago and just ships untested stuff every 6 weeks as "stable".Jul 21 02:32
DaemonFC[m]ESR is basically an admission that people don't really want that, but they make it hard to get at.Jul 21 02:33
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DaemonFC[m]Notice anything missing?Jul 21 02:35
*DaemonFC[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_20200720_203444.png (183KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/DGBUMBRNBhXntgOAGJVfUsgJ >Jul 21 02:35
DaemonFC[m]Anyway.... Nice of them to finally update the Linux tarball to ESR 78.0.2 if you can find it.Jul 21 02:38
DaemonFC[m]Maybe someone will update their PPA and the Snap store.Jul 21 02:38
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: #microsoft #mozilla http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/Jul 21 02:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Mozilla Hires From Microsoft for Mozilla’s Board | TechrightsJul 21 02:51
schestowitz[02:31] <DaemonFC[m]> I'm considering switching to the ESR branch of Firefox.Jul 21 02:51
schestowitzthis is what debian usesJul 21 02:51
schestowitzbuster hereJul 21 02:51
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schestowitz[02:23] <MinceR> broken software offends meJul 21 02:53
schestowitzmake up a religion or cult that cherishes bug-free softwareJul 21 02:53
schestowitzand then file a bug report alleging that their software is causing you traumaJul 21 02:53
schestowitzand that they must fix all the bugs before adding more features or swapping parameter namesJul 21 02:53
DaemonFC[m]They wouldn't want to exclude him.Jul 21 02:57
DaemonFC[m]Tell them you're a slave to the bugs.Jul 21 02:57
DaemonFC[m]Show Detective Ian where the bugs touched you, on the doll.Jul 21 02:57
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: SourceForge.... In your credibility index.Jul 21 02:59
DaemonFC[m]After the malware bundling incident involving Windows, and the developers complaining aobut the SourceForge installer, I started referring to it as the Forged Source installer.Jul 21 02:59
schestowitzlolJul 21 03:01
schestowitzI have just checked my emailJul 21 03:02
schestowitznothing yet from Seattle PD Jul 21 03:02
schestowitzabout detective ianJul 21 03:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I think someone would really have to be an idiot to use Microsoft Edge. Jul 21 03:03
DaemonFC[m]To use a Chromebook? Eh, if you're sure you're not doing anything illegal and you want a cheap computer that can do some Linux apps? Maybe. I set up Mandy's to disable as much telemetry and crap as it'll let you and switched the search to DuckDuckGo.Jul 21 03:04
DaemonFC[m]Then set up some Linux apps in the Debian 10 container, like LibreOffice.Jul 21 03:04
DaemonFC[m]I would never recommend using Google Docs for a lot of reasons.Jul 21 03:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's software where they can alter the deal later, while you're trying to use it. Like Office 365.Jul 21 03:05
DaemonFC[m]They can make it do whatever they want. They can charge for things that used to be free after you're hooked. Lots of things.Jul 21 03:05
DaemonFC[m]It's nastier than Microsoft Office as a standalone application.Jul 21 03:05
DaemonFC[m]Oh, those pirates can break the Activation DRM. They always do.Jul 21 03:06
schestowitzzoobab: is "Jan Van Hoey" you?Jul 21 03:06
schestowitzsounds like your argumentsJul 21 03:06
schestowitzhttps://betanews.com/2020/07/20/google-explore-chromebook/Jul 21 03:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-betanews.com | Google announces Explore app for ChromebookJul 21 03:07
schestowitz"These laptops run a Linux-based operating system called "Chrome OS" that is arguably the most secure web surfing platform on the planet."Jul 21 03:07
schestowitzhours agoJul 21 03:07
schestowitzlaughableJul 21 03:07
schestowitzgoogle gets everythjingJul 21 03:07
schestowitzthat's not securityJul 21 03:07
schestowitzit's a security circusJul 21 03:08
schestowitznot even theatreJul 21 03:08
DaemonFC[m]There was someone I know (he's 19 now) who was telling me Linux was something people did so they could get away with illegal stuff.Jul 21 03:08
schestowitzhttps://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/system-thread-exception-not-handled-fix-heres-the-full-tutorial/Jul 21 03:08
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.addictivetips.com | System Thread Exception Not Handled (FIX): Here's the Full TutorialJul 21 03:08
DaemonFC[m]I said, "You wanted me to fuck you when you were 15 and you don't think that such a conversation might have been intercepted? Well, no risk for you I guess.".Jul 21 03:08
DaemonFC[m]"That's why the conversation ended."Jul 21 03:09
schestowitzthat's like saying clothes are for people who hide small genitalsJul 21 03:09
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I told him "You don't think that Grindr and iOS are monitoring you?".Jul 21 03:10
schestowitznot my pointJul 21 03:13
schestowitzmy point is, if you want privacy that does not necessarily imply you do something wrongJul 21 03:13
schestowitzthere are many more analogies to that effectJul 21 03:13
schestowitzlike saying you don't need freedom of speech because there's nothing useful for you to say anywayJul 21 03:14
schestowitzwho needs two eyes anyway?Jul 21 03:14
schestowitzunless you want stereovisionJul 21 03:14
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There are over 40,000 federal crimes.Jul 21 03:16
DaemonFC[m]That's just federal.Jul 21 03:16
DaemonFC[m]Not state, county, and city.Jul 21 03:16
DaemonFC[m]Do you really even want to take the chance that you did do something illegal and then all the evidence is right there for them?Jul 21 03:16
DaemonFC[m]Google, Microsoft, and Apple are preserving evidence of countless crimes that certainly some people didn't even commit intentionally, forever.Jul 21 03:17
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Even better, you don't know how long they keep the file after you "delete" it.Jul 21 03:18
DaemonFC[m]Attempting to delete evidence is a crime even if it isn't destroyed. So now not only do they have evidence of a crime, you tried to delete the file and didn't and they can prove that too.Jul 21 03:19
DaemonFC[m]People can find themselves in a whole heap of trouble very quickly.Jul 21 03:19
DaemonFC[m]So it's a crime to store and then it's another crime to try to get rid of them.Jul 21 03:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Anyone who does something on the internet should figure that there's a record.Jul 21 03:23
DaemonFC[m]So the government, strictly speaking, doesn't need tentacles in your computer most of the time. Jul 21 03:23
DaemonFC[m]But it wants them everywhere, and that's why Windows/Mac/Chrome do it.Jul 21 03:23
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There was a case where a church found CP on the music director's laptop.Jul 21 03:25
DaemonFC[m]So they got rid of him and hired a lawyer.Jul 21 03:25
DaemonFC[m]Lawyer says "Give me the laptop.". So they did.Jul 21 03:25
DaemonFC[m]The lawyer deleted the files and handed it back to the church.Jul 21 03:25
DaemonFC[m]Someone else had reported the guy to the police.Jul 21 03:26
DaemonFC[m]Police come in and take the laptop and go through the unallocated space.Jul 21 03:26
DaemonFC[m]They ask who deleted the files. They go "The lawyer.".Jul 21 03:26
DaemonFC[m]The police arrest the lawyer and the music director.Jul 21 03:26
DaemonFC[m]I doubt that the lawyer could have possibly not known that deleting evidence was a crime.Jul 21 03:40
DaemonFC[m]My take is that they probably figured "Problem solved.".Jul 21 03:40
DaemonFC[m]Well, there's the saying that ignorance of the law is no excuse, but the cops will always try to make you make their case for them that you knew it was a crime and did it anyway. Jul 21 03:43
DaemonFC[m]It plays better in front of a jury and sometimes they can add crimes that they couldn't prove.Jul 21 03:43
kingoffrancesadly, ppl will see <anything not windows/mac> as criminal just based on <i dont know it>Jul 21 03:45
kingoffranceif youre so smart why arent you richJul 21 03:45
DaemonFC[m]From the documents, I could definitely see where the detective was struggling to say what age some of the pictures were, but then he got "Rick" to say, "Gee I don't know. 15/16.".Jul 21 03:45
kingoffranceppl say that with a straight faceJul 21 03:45
DaemonFC[m]Mandy said that to me.Jul 21 03:46
DaemonFC[m]If I'm so smart why was I broke. Why was I filing bankruptcy.Jul 21 03:46
DaemonFC[m]I told him being smart just makes you depressed.Jul 21 03:46
kingoffrance^^^ lolJul 21 03:46
DaemonFC[m]The guy who invented DEFLATE drank himself to death in a motel room.Jul 21 03:46
kingoffrancehasnt he ever seen evil genius yelling at idiot subordinates in movies?Jul 21 03:46
DaemonFC[m]What makes me so much better?Jul 21 03:46
kingoffrance"ssss....imbecilessss!" </cobra, gi joe>Jul 21 03:47
kingoffrance(thats just a guess, but along those lines)Jul 21 03:48
DaemonFC[m]I was talking to Mandy and he goes "Giving us free will was the worst choice God ever made.".Jul 21 03:49
DaemonFC[m]I go, "Yes, because God gave us choices to make yet knows exactly what will happen.Jul 21 03:49
DaemonFC[m]"Does it ever make you wonder how those nitwits in church manage to think since most of their beliefs contradict each other?"Jul 21 03:49
DaemonFC[m]Wicked world..... But God is all powerful and could change it, and....doesn't.Jul 21 03:50
kingoffrancehttp://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=devil&Query=trinity  In religion we believe only what we do not understand, except in the instance of an intelligible doctrine that contradicts an incomprehensible one.  In that case we believe the former as a part of the latter.Jul 21 03:52
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dict.org- trinityJul 21 03:52
kingoffrancethats actually dogma more or lessJul 21 03:52
kingoffranceor wasJul 21 03:52
kingoffrancenowadays its mostly "reason"Jul 21 03:52
DaemonFC[m]Like really depressed. I'm starting to feel like the later days of Phil Katz in this motel room.Jul 21 04:22
DaemonFC[m]It was almost nice to be at the car repair shop.Jul 21 04:23
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/20/nearly-17000-southwest-employees-sign-up-for-buyouts-voluntary-leave-as-furlough-threat-looms.htmlJul 21 04:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Nearly 17,000 Southwest employees sign up for buyouts, voluntary leave as furlough threat loomsJul 21 04:24
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, there's the end of the airline industry you were talking about.Jul 21 04:24
DaemonFC[m]"Nearly 17,000 Southwest employees, or about 28% of the workforce, signed up for leaves of absence or early retirement."Jul 21 04:25
DaemonFC[m]"Thousands of employees at other carriers have also signed up for unpaid or partially paid leaves or buyouts."Jul 21 04:26
DaemonFC[m]"More than 2,200 Delta pilots have volunteered to retire early."Jul 21 04:26
DaemonFC[m]I guess Congress finally said "We're broke. Go away.".Jul 21 04:30
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/20/893096126/trader-joes-working-to-remove-brand-names-criticized-as-racistJul 21 04:32
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Trader Joe's Working To Remove Product Branding Criticized As Racist : Live Updates: Protests For Racial Justice : NPRJul 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]Plantation Mint wasn't the end of "racist food" I guess.Jul 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]Trader Joe's is getting rid of product names such as Trader José's, Jul 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]Arabian Joe's and Trader Ming's that critics say are racist and Jul 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]"perpetuates harmful stereotypes."Jul 21 04:32
DaemonFC[m]I signed the petition as "Bing Bong Ching Chong".Jul 21 04:34
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: Bankruptcy is the smart thing to do.Jul 21 04:39
DaemonFC[m]Among their other fucking fantasy documents in the counseling, they said I could do a repayment plan for 30 years.Jul 21 04:39
DaemonFC[m]I told the guy hard pass.Jul 21 04:39
DaemonFC[m]This fucking virus keeps going on much longer, there won't be any old people left.Jul 21 04:41
DaemonFC[m]I started joking about Carnival Cruise Lines back in March.Jul 21 04:41
DaemonFC[m]I called them Carousel Cruise Lines. (Carousel from Logan's Run)Jul 21 04:43
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: There's all these commercials about how home loan rates are all time lows.Jul 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]"Home has new meaning!"Jul 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, tent under the LA freeway.".Jul 21 04:46
DaemonFC[m]https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-95/osr-2Jul 21 04:57
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-winworldpc.com | WinWorld: Windows 95 OSR 2Jul 21 04:57
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I found the Windows 95 B shell files floating around in a ZIP that someone uploaded to a forum back then. I fed them into RoM II when it asked for them and it patched it to say "Windows 98" as it was putting it in.Jul 21 04:58
DaemonFC[m]Those Windows 98 systems I had were pretty funny. They were basically Windows 98 with no IE (or Trident engine), Outlook Express, etc., with the pre-IE 4 shell (with FAT32 awareness), and near the end I even grabbed a few things from Windows Me (like the Disk Defragmenter) and stuck them in.Jul 21 05:00
DaemonFC[m]It would easily run for months without trouble the way I had it set up. The way Microsoft had it configured, you were lucky if you could run 1-2 days between a blue screen of death that forced you to restart.Jul 21 05:01
DaemonFC[m]I didn't see too much need for Windows XP. It was slower and Windows 98 without IE+shell was actually pretty stable.Jul 21 05:01
DaemonFC[m]Very small too. The whole OS took a little under 100 MB of space on the disk.Jul 21 05:02
DaemonFC[m]Intel didn't advertise it, but my Pentium 4 system has WDM drivers that said "Windows XP", but they could be made to install in Windows 98, which recognized them and it worked fine.Jul 21 05:05
DaemonFC[m]*hadJul 21 05:05
DaemonFC[m]The process was much like the program that Ed Felten demonstrated during US v. Microsoft for removing IE.Jul 21 05:06
DaemonFC[m]I don't know if he did his demonstration before or after Bill Gates testified.Jul 21 05:07
DaemonFC[m]Part of that testimony was that removing IE from Windows would result in a "broken" operating system that became "unstable".Jul 21 05:10
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DaemonFC[m]In the most serious WTF of Windows 8, they remove the Start Menu, and then the most pirated app on Bittorrent was a Start Menu for Windows 8.Jul 21 05:18
DaemonFC[m]It was actually quite funny. The company was charging $5 for a Start Menu that patched the shell and behaved just like the one that was already in Windows 7.Jul 21 05:19
DaemonFC[m]https://abcnews.go.com/US/kentucky-couple-house-arrest-refusing-sign-quarantine-agreement/story?id=71886479Jul 21 05:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Kentucky couple under house arrest after refusing to sign self-quarantine agreement - ABC NewsJul 21 05:22
DaemonFC[m]Meanwhile, in Lake County, IL the government is doing fuck all.Jul 21 05:22
DaemonFC[m]I never thought I'd see Kentucky doing a better job at something, but they are.Jul 21 05:22
DaemonFC[m]Lake County is giving "Coronavirus relief grants" to businesses using money they stole from people who pay property taxes during this emergency that they cannot afford.Jul 21 05:23
DaemonFC[m]I'm not exactly sure why you would answer the door for the cops. If they have a warrant, they'd be kicking, not knocking.Jul 21 05:27
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bankruptcies-chapter-11-up-26-percent-2020/Jul 21 06:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cbsnews.com | Bankruptcies surging as coronavirus levels the U.S. economy - CBS NewsJul 21 06:02
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/2020/06/03/867856602/millions-of-americans-skipping-payments-as-tidal-wave-of-defaults-and-evictions-Jul 21 06:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Millions Of Americans Skipping Payments As Wave Of Defaults And Evictions Looms : NPRJul 21 06:18
DaemonFC[m]This was last month.Jul 21 06:18
DaemonFC[m]Those are already "Regime Change" numbers.Jul 21 06:18
DaemonFC[m]Trump's internal polling numbers have collapsed according to White House sources that spoke to CNN anonymously, and that's why he's now wearing a face mask on Twitter and calling it "patriotic" after letting his supporters whine like spoiled children and commit assault and disorderly conduct against minimum wage store employees and scream "Democratic PIGS!" as the police haul them away.Jul 21 06:20
scientes..."Evictions"Jul 21 06:41
scientesinsane placeJul 21 06:41
scientesthe US needs a jubileeJul 21 06:41
DaemonFC[m]BankruptcyJul 21 06:42
DaemonFC[m]Most people won't have much left soon anyway. Jul 21 06:42
DaemonFC[m]These job losses are quickly becoming structural. Companies using it as another chance to clean house.Jul 21 06:43
DaemonFC[m]Ponzis like Uber falling over.Jul 21 06:43
DaemonFC[m]Zombie corporations which should have been finished years ago filed almost immediately.Jul 21 06:45
DaemonFC[m]Airlines probably never will recover. People were spooked by 9/11 for a few months, but this will be a 3-4 year problem no doubt.Jul 21 06:45
DaemonFC[m]They spent all of their money on share buybacks and have zero savings to pad their operations until this starts to subside. Jul 21 06:46
DaemonFC[m]It wouldn't surprise me at all if the US Treasury or the Federal Reserve ends up owning at least some of the airlines very soon.Jul 21 06:47
DaemonFC[m]They'll let them purge their workforce and then snap them up after that.Jul 21 06:47
DaemonFC[m]No "real" investor would go anywhere near this, and you're seeing the start of that now because they realize that another bailout is by no means guaranteed.Jul 21 06:48
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schestowitz                  <h5><a href="https://maxamillion.sh/blog/fedora-workstation-32-is-exceptionally-good/">Fedora Workstation 32 is Exceptionally Good</a></h5>Jul 21 08:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maxamillion.sh | Fedora Workstation 32 is Exceptionally Good | adam.ymlJul 21 08:05
schestowitz                  <blockquote>Jul 21 08:05
schestowitz                    <p>Fedora Workstation 32 is Exceptionally Good _. At the time of this writing it is not new, I know, but at this point in it's lifespan I feel it's time to talk about just how exceptional it is, how good it has remained, and how excited I am for the future. First and foremost, GNOME 3.36 is the first time I feel like GNOME 3 provides as responsive of an user experience as GNOME 2 did and it brings a certain fluidityJul 21 08:05
schestowitzto the desktop as whole that I kind of forgot was missing. It was a long road to get here, many wonderful members of the community poured their hearts and souls into getting us here and for that, I am forever grateful because this is truly fantastic. GNOME Boxes went overnight from something I though was more or less a party trick to my favorite way to manage virtual machines on my laptops and desktops, hands down. Flatpaks are the Jul 21 08:05
schestowitzfuture of desktop applications for Linux, you may or may not agree but the inherent power for an user to be able to truly customize the applications available to them, lifecycle manage software in a reasonable way without elevated privileges, access various "app stores", get sandboxing mechanisms that require permissions approvals per application, and do all of this within the confines of their home directory without affecting global Jul 21 08:05
schestowitzsystem state. This is exactly the type of modern user experience the larger audience in the desktop market expect, and it's been realized ... and it is really good. Again, this is not new but it's come a long way and warrants revisiting and appreciation for how good it had become. Beyond all this, the battery life of my laptop is consierably better than it ever has been before which is basically just icing on the cake.</p></Jul 21 08:05
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schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: ^Jul 21 08:05
schestowitzi wanted to send/highlight it for you yesterdayJul 21 08:05
schestowitzbut forgot toJul 21 08:05
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if he's dealing with the Clocks app pegging his CPU core yet.Jul 21 08:07
DaemonFC[m]Never figured that one out.Jul 21 08:07
DaemonFC[m]KDE is working out much better than earlier 5.x releases,Jul 21 08:08
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kingoffrance"democratic PIGS" LOLJul 21 09:47
kingoffranceppl dont believe me, but i strongly suspect there is some hippie generation + new age ppl in the trump campJul 21 09:47
kingoffrancedespite the pseudo-"bible belt" persona whateverJul 21 09:48
kingoffranceunless those are the hells angels but i think thats kinda the sameJul 21 09:48
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schestowitz[09:47] <kingoffrance> ppl dont believe me, but i strongly suspect there is some hippie generation + new age ppl in the trump campJul 21 10:41
schestowitzhard to believe Jul 21 10:41
schestowitza few misguided ones are possible, but on the whole very fewJul 21 10:42
schestowitzUS national doubt rounding up now to 27 trillion dollars. A lot more than the country's worth. If it was a company, it would have declared bankruptcy by now. https://www.usdebtclock.org/Jul 21 10:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usdebtclock.org | U.S. National Debt Clock : Real TimeJul 21 10:43
kingoffrancelet me rephrase -- ppl who think trump is a "rebel"Jul 21 10:43
kingoffrancehes "one of us"Jul 21 10:44
schestowitz*debtJul 21 10:44
kingoffranceall the x last potus were fakesJul 21 10:44
schestowitzdoubt is a funny freudian slipJul 21 10:44
schestowitzbecause the debt causes doubtJul 21 10:44
schestowitzonly really dumb people think oligarchs are rebelsJul 21 10:44
kingoffrancethat goes against stone whoever nixon guy but yeahJul 21 10:44
schestowitzthey're what people rebel againstJul 21 10:44
kingoffranceyour vastly underestimate the dumbnessJul 21 10:44
schestowitzthe ones who see him as rebel view him as rebel against "libs"Jul 21 10:44
schestowitznot against his classJul 21 10:45
kingoffranceive seen a prayer "holy spirit please enter my loins" --- tell me these ppl have a clue what they are doingJul 21 10:46
kingoffrance"jesus, please possess me"Jul 21 10:47
kingoffrancethere is lots of crazy churches i assure youJul 21 10:47
kingoffrancethose are realJul 21 10:47
kingoffrance"holy spirit, please ride me" also realJul 21 10:55
kingoffrance1st and 3rd def trump supportersJul 21 10:55
kingoffranceremember who is doing his spirtual advisement -- megachurches -- "if you can imagine it, you can make it real" sort of stuff that business ppl likeJul 21 10:56
kingoffrancelaw of attraction type stuffJul 21 10:56
kingoffrance"its not a lie if i believe it" -- george costanzaJul 21 10:58
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oiaohmschestowitz:  kingoffrance  The country version of declaring bankruptcy is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_default  Yes Sovereign Default USA model that does not sound good.   You will normally be aiming to have the countries debt become  odious debt/illegitimate debt so don't even have to pay cents in the dollar on it.Jul 21 11:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sovereign default - WikipediaJul 21 11:24
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oiaohmIt would be really interesting if the USA did pull a Sovereign Default playing the card that Trump is a nut case so the debt is odious debt.Jul 21 11:25
MinceR(cat) (audio) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/20/1507077af4a693d2.mp4Jul 21 11:45
kingoffranceeh, that goes back to 1800sJul 21 11:54
kingoffrancegreenbacksJul 21 11:54
kingoffrancesupposedly banks wanted too much interest, so they gave lincoln hard time ...but (after he was shot of course) they did eventually "resume specie payments" (rare)Jul 21 11:55
kingoffrancethen another panic or twoJul 21 11:55
kingoffrancepoint being, they got legal tender cases in thenJul 21 11:55
kingoffranceso, is it odious now?   well war on terror, patriot act, etc. etc. etc.Jul 21 11:55
kingoffrance"were never going back" lbjJul 21 11:55
kingoffranceis that breach of faith?Jul 21 11:55
kingoffrancewell, they arent going backJul 21 11:55
kingoffranceand war on "terror" is probably not ending anytime soonJul 21 11:56
kingoffranceso...Jul 21 11:56
kingoffranceso technically its all emergencyJul 21 11:56
kingoffranceand some far off day, they will "resume specie payments"Jul 21 11:56
kingoffrance(nevermind that much gold or silver or whatever doesnt exist)Jul 21 11:56
kingoffrancethey will have to become alchemistsJul 21 11:57
kingoffranceso its hard to say from their side its odiousJul 21 11:57
kingoffrancethey told ppl "were never going back"Jul 21 11:57
kingoffrancetehy told ppl "emergency"Jul 21 11:57
kingoffrancejoe average ppl might feel different of courseJul 21 11:58
kingoffrancebut 14th you cant question the debtJul 21 11:58
kingoffranceso...Jul 21 11:58
kingoffrance"thats a political question" ppl say scotus saysJul 21 11:58
kingoffranceso...Jul 21 11:58
kingoffrancethere have been ppl claiming odious though...for 100+ yearsJul 21 11:59
kingoffrancei dont see itJul 21 11:59
kingoffrancetechnically they are only supposed to borrow "money' (one can say specie or precious metals) on the credit of the united states, but again, "emergency"Jul 21 12:05
kingoffrancelegal tender cases say paper/credit is moneyJul 21 12:05
kingoffrancecredit not legal tender though last i checkedJul 21 12:05
kingoffranceor at least that, they can do such "borrowing"Jul 21 12:06
kingoffrancegonna be awhile? grab a snickersJul 21 12:06
kingoffrancei did see a banking book "why is there this close connection between business + gov, or why would you borrow paper/credit" and it basically said "balance" unwritten ruleJul 21 12:11
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/683280.jpgJul 21 12:11
kingoffranceto me it seems logical if you wanna trade with someone that is a good reason you might borrow paper or creditJul 21 12:11
kingoffrancepoint being: unwritten rule is probably not going away IMOJul 21 12:12
schestowitzhttps://www.mirror.co.uk/science/polar-bears-could-wiped-out-22384176Jul 21 12:17
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.mirror.co.uk | Polar bears could be wiped out within 80 years due to global warming, scientists warn - Mirror OnlineJul 21 12:17
schestowitzMinceR: what's that?Jul 21 12:19
MinceRa scene oddly reminiscent of a scene in Life of BrianJul 21 12:20
MinceRi don't know if it was intentionalJul 21 12:20
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/lying-for-comments.jpgJul 21 12:24
MinceRlolJul 21 12:24
kingoffrancebouviers 1856 does imply "the fed" is private because of who owns the stock, but yeah, congress can "buyback/cashout" any time supposedly...so "odious"?  well, they can "cash out" the stock owners supposedly.Jul 21 12:26
kingoffrancei mean, that doesnt answer the q "odious" just that, hard to be a victim if you have an "escape route"Jul 21 12:27
kingoffrancehard to claim "odious" if you are going along with itJul 21 12:27
kingoffrancefrom congresss POVJul 21 12:27
kingoffranceIANALJul 21 12:27
kingoffrancei dunno about IMF or whatever other entities involvedJul 21 12:27
kingoffranceor BIS or whoeverJul 21 12:27
kingoffrancethey can "severe" the deal anytime they wantJul 21 12:28
kingoffrancethat was supposedly in the 1913 actJul 21 12:28
MinceRcatch 22?Jul 21 12:29
kingoffranceppl been saying GCR for decadesJul 21 12:29
kingoffrancei tihnk they just do it to manipulate pricesJul 21 12:29
kingoffrance:)Jul 21 12:29
kingoffranceevery coin peddler wants to tell you the end is nearJul 21 12:29
kingoffrancebuy now!Jul 21 12:29
kingoffrancedevils dictionary "hippogriff" no longer works cuz eagles/double eagles are wrong content nowadays, but thats neither here nor thereJul 21 12:30
kingoffrancejust that joke no longer worksJul 21 12:30
kingoffrancesure, they still mint specie...but they dont even do that properlyJul 21 12:31
kingoffrancevictim: my wife is cheating on me   judge: you are entitled to a divorce, want one?   victim: .......not yet....Jul 21 12:33
kingoffrancethats how it is IMOJul 21 12:33
kingoffrancethey got an escapeJul 21 12:34
kingoffranceconsidering trump ran around "the fed isnt america first" ...hard to play victimJul 21 12:45
kingoffranceif you go along with itJul 21 12:45
kingoffrancehe just wants them doing his bidding...literally exact opposite reason it was justifiedJul 21 12:46
kingoffranceif anything, they might claim he is not honouring his end of the bargainJul 21 12:47
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schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/stalin-dream-linux.jpgJul 21 12:52
kingoffrancetechnically "a delegate cannot redelegate (unless authorized)" ancient common law maxim andrew jackson pointed out ...but you cant sit for 100+ years and then wake up one day "victim!"Jul 21 12:55
oiaohmkingoffrance: there is another historic solution to country with massive debts and its the historic greek model.   Mandate all your countries debts must be written and paid in own countries currency.   Then government invest its money overseas and massive devalue own currency and pays back its debt for techically cents on the dollar.Jul 21 13:00
oiaohmThe best one in greek historic was 1 cent per 10000 dollars owed.Jul 21 13:00
MinceRhttps://hugelolcdn.com/i/683385.jpgJul 21 13:00
oiaohmMinceR: good question is that a correct sign language translation of the actions.Jul 21 13:02
oiaohmIf so what sign language.Jul 21 13:02
MinceRno, it's a guide to washing handsJul 21 13:03
oiaohmMinceR: I do know one guide to washing hands in Australia was got rid of because in the middle of it was saying go kill yourself.Jul 21 13:05
oiaohmIn sign.Jul 21 13:05
MinceRlolJul 21 13:06
kingoffrancedont get me wrong i think theres miles of fraud -- im just trying to say, i dont think you win in court if you avail yourself of benefits while claiming victimJul 21 13:13
kingoffranceand "emergency" ...theyve been doing it foreverJul 21 13:13
kingoffrancetrump IMO has very much "availed himself of benefits"Jul 21 13:14
kingoffranceif you sit down in a restaurant and order and eat...theyre gonna bill youJul 21 13:15
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MinceR(audio:unimportant) https://hugelolcdn.com/v/683200.mp4Jul 21 13:20
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schestowitzlolJul 21 14:07
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DaemonFC[m]Well, when your creditors are willing to lend more money, things go on for a while longer even if you're in serious trouble.Jul 21 17:42
DaemonFC[m]A lawyer I talked to said that the banks are basically responsible for whatever you do if they don't cut you off, whene you file bankruptcy.Jul 21 17:42
DaemonFC[m]They should be reviewing the accounts and seeing that they're going to take losses if they don't, but she said it's common for them to just look the other way while all the cards get maxed even though they pull your credit and see you're not just maxing their cards.Jul 21 17:43
DaemonFC[m]They ask about your income but it's mostly just because they have to, and you can include your spouse's or live in boyfriend or whatever. They're "flexible". They're figuring your family will come to tge rescue maybe.Jul 21 17:45
DaemonFC[m]Lending money to entities/people who are seriously in trouble, well, it's a gamble.Jul 21 18:00
DaemonFC[m]The reason that banks do it with people is they know some will file bankruptcy, but even more will go on for years and years making minimum payments with so much interest that even if they don't spend any more credit card money, it'll take 20 years to pay the card off like that.Jul 21 18:01
DaemonFC[m]Usually, even by the time someone gives up and files, they've already paid more than they borrowed with minimum payments, even though most of the card is still full.Jul 21 18:01
MinceR(cat) https://twitter.com/dewycheek/status/1281094915737427968Jul 21 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dewycheek: https://t.co/26AHyKqMtJJul 21 18:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@dewycheek: https://t.co/26AHyKqMtJJul 21 18:02
DaemonFC[m]MinceR The fantasy document in bankruptcy court said I was supposed to find $364 rent somewhere in Illinois.Jul 21 18:03
DaemonFC[m]And that I had $120 for food.Jul 21 18:03
DaemonFC[m]They suggested signing up for public housing, which always has a 3 year waiting list and then stops taking names indefinitely.Jul 21 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Then when anyone does move in, they're on it until they die. So good luck.Jul 21 18:05
DaemonFC[m]In reality, if public housing was actually available, we wouldn't have tent cities all over the country, even in "good times"Jul 21 18:05
DaemonFC[m]Mandy was shocked when he saw a Youtube video of a sprawling tent city in Los Angeles and it was from before the Coronavirus.Jul 21 18:06
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, some people do really well in America and most people don't. We have tent cities in Chicago and the police go in there with knives and slash them up and beat up the homeless and then throw lighter fluid on piles of their belongings and tosses in a match. You can't tell mom that. The police are "good people".Jul 21 18:07
DaemonFC[m]"Your sister told you whatever you wanted to hear, but if I had a condo with a pool and a good job in the Philippines, I would have probably stayed there. Done some research first. The real story was always there, but you believed your sister."Jul 21 18:08
DaemonFC[m]She doesn't see a lot of the problem in Indiana because the red states go out of their way to make sure there isn't any poor relief so they can export their homeless onto some other state.Jul 21 18:09
MinceR:>Jul 21 18:10
DaemonFC[m]Now, with a third of the country unemployed and experts admitting that the shit really hit the fan at the end of the month, all she does is complain that Starbucks has "weird hours" because "nobody wants to work"..... Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Starbucks is in big trouble and has already closed 1,000 US stores in the last 3 months because $6 coffee is not a big thing in the worst recession ever.Jul 21 18:11
DaemonFC[m]Conservatives have always tried framing unemployment income as a hammock when, in some states, people have been trying to file since March and have still not received a single check.Jul 21 18:12
DaemonFC[m]Also, if your employer calls you back or someone offers you a job, the unemployment income just ends right there. You have to take any job that's offered. 1/3rd of Americans are not loafing and staying on unemployment that has possibly a few weeks left and turning down jobs.Jul 21 18:13
DaemonFC[m]It's nice to see that the right agrees with Stalin that a million deaths is a "statistic" and that their president is such a wreck of a human being that he didn't recommend face masks and said they made you a wuss until his advisers said that even the fantasy document polling they brought him from within the party looked bad.Jul 21 18:15
DaemonFC[m]I think he really will leave if he loses and the reason I say that is that he's still concerned about the polls.Jul 21 18:16
DaemonFC[m]If he had some grand plan to just take over and turn it into Russia despite the election, I don't think that he would be concerned about polls. Jul 21 18:16
DaemonFC[m]The Constitution is pretty clear about when his term ends. Noon on January 20th. If he tries staying past that, it's obvious that he's no longer the president. There is no question about it.Jul 21 18:18
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: There's actually been quite a few examples of him installing people that turned out to behave in ways he wasn't expecting. He was visibly stunned that he lost that Civil Rights Act case that expanded employment protections to gay people. Jul 21 18:19
DaemonFC[m]There was the attempted bailouts of coal at the FERC and the TVA, where his own people voted against it and shut down more coal plants.Jul 21 18:19
DaemonFC[m]Once they get the job, for the most part they can only be fired for cause. It's amusing that people are talking Political Fed now. Jerome Powell is doing exactly what the last half a dozen Fed chairs would have.Jul 21 18:20
DaemonFC[m]How do you think we got hyperinflation in the 70s? Nixon said "I want cheap money and I want it now!" right before the 1972 election.Jul 21 18:21
DaemonFC[m]kingoffrance: Well, Trump could just have the Fed print up as much money as they want to and "pay" the debt with that, or threaten to default if the creditors don't take less, or both.Jul 21 18:22
DaemonFC[m]That's not even questionable, because the US controls its own money. What obviously happens next is Russia 1998.Jul 21 18:22
DaemonFC[m]This is the next logical step after the Nixon shock (suspend conversion of US dollars to gold in international settlements), it just took decades to happen.Jul 21 18:23
DaemonFC[m]The problem with gold was that we would never have enough to let the federal government go on a spending spree that would last until way after anyone in that generation was dead.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFC[m]The only upside here is that we didn't just sell it all off at the lowest price for gold ever, like schestowitz's country did.Jul 21 18:24
DaemonFC[m]So as Trump ruins the Dollar, oddly he's increasing the value of our gold holdings. I suspect it could end up being worth $5-6 trillion after the dollar value collapses. Not just because of the devaluing, but because people are hoarding gold so that can't be devalued.Jul 21 18:26
DaemonFC[m]I can't remember exactly how bad Brown's Bottom was, but if the UK had waited they could have gotten like more than three times as much money for the gold.Jul 21 18:28
DaemonFC[m]The people running his country are as corrupt as they are stupid, but it's easy to laugh at someone else.Jul 21 18:28
DaemonFC[m]They threw a lot of their own money and lives down the hole in Iraq/Afghanistan when they should have said "nope". Jul 21 18:29
psydroidas far as free software gaming is concerned Xonotic is pretty good, at least it's a lot of funJul 21 18:30
DaemonFC[m]People that high up in the government have no business being ignorant of the business cycle or approximately where we are at in it. Jul 21 18:30
DaemonFC[m]I'm not sure there will be many businesses to begin another cycle with after the bankruptcy chop shop.Jul 21 18:31
DaemonFC[m]Bankruptcy court will be a disaster too. They'll pack in there and Congress and Trump have not expanded capacity, so viable businesses will end up being gutted in liquidation.Jul 21 18:33
DaemonFC[m]Their assets will being in very little money for their creditors because of all of the other business failings.Jul 21 18:33
DaemonFC[m]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/07/21/should-government-funded-covid-19-vaccine-free-all-americans/5426531002/Jul 21 18:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usatoday.com | COVID-19 vaccine: Should it be free for all Americans?Jul 21 18:37
DaemonFC[m]I think that the government will relent on price because they want this to be over, desperately. Jul 21 18:37
DaemonFC[m]But so many people will refuse it from distrust of either vaccines, Trump, or both....Jul 21 18:37
DaemonFC[m]The fact that they even need to ask about whether it should be "free" at this point shows you what kind of degenerate scum are running the "news"Jul 21 18:39
DaemonFC[m]This isn't like cancer or AIDS where some people die and conservatives can stand around going "Oh well, more where that came from!". This is money! More precisely, nobody shops until this is over.Jul 21 18:40
DaemonFC[m]They do care about that, the business people should.Jul 21 18:40
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MinceR21 191544 < DaemonFC[m]> It's nice to see that the right agrees with Stalin that a million deaths is a "statistic"Jul 21 18:51
MinceRafaict most people doJul 21 18:51
MinceRsure, most will protest loudly in words if it's brought up, but people's actions betray themJul 21 18:52
MinceRwhich is why i say NoLivesMatterJul 21 18:52
MinceRour authoritarian society underpinned by our bullshit "social contract" kills a lot of peopleJul 21 18:52
MinceRthe way we're turning Earth into Venus is also killing people, but it will kill a lot more in the futureJul 21 18:53
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MinceRin general, authoritarianism is all about either eliminating value in people's lives or ending their lives entirelyJul 21 18:53
MinceRand the spread of anti-intellectualism will harm medicine on the long run, again, making peoples lives worse and/or end much earlierJul 21 18:54
DaemonFC[m]Well, you tell Fox Nation that and they wonder what the problem is. They can always crank the air conditioner, right?Jul 21 18:54
MinceRlolJul 21 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Superstorms that are 1/4 of the diameter of the planet are not going to be a problem at all.Jul 21 18:55
MinceRthey can, and it will heat the atmosphere moreJul 21 18:55
MinceRand the power plants and power distribution will also heat the atmosphere moreJul 21 18:55
DaemonFC[m]Eh, the atmosphere is for liberals anyway. The right is busy filming the Tears of Unfathomable Sadness over the discontinuation of the Aunt Jemima brand of High Fructose Corn Syrup.Jul 21 18:57
DaemonFC[m]Just put them on an IV drip of Aunt Jemima and plug them into some artificial reality construct where Trump is doing a bangup job, and let them live their lives in fantasy, I say.Jul 21 18:58
DaemonFC[m]It's very merciful and efficient.Jul 21 18:59
DaemonFC[m]The outrage here is that we can't have shitty fake corn syrup garbage over our shitty fake waffles with racism that affirms that Fox Nation on Rascal Scooters at Walmart is the Master Race. This is exactly what the term "White Fragility" was talking about and these people are so stupid that they play right into it while everyone else laughs at them.Jul 21 19:01
kingoffranceyes, the "right" seems to have adopted "collectivism" ideology...anyone is expendable for "the revolution"Jul 21 19:03
kingoffrancebut but but the dems are socialists!Jul 21 19:03
kingoffranceits almost too transparentJul 21 19:03
kingoffrance<accuse person x> of <thing you wish to do/are doing yourself>Jul 21 19:03
kingoffranceSTOP YELLING AT MEJul 21 19:04
kingoffranceits like thatJul 21 19:04
MinceRi don't really see the racism about naming food products about non-white peopleJul 21 19:05
MinceRis it insulting to non-white people to be associated with food?Jul 21 19:05
XRevan86https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Eskimo_pie_box.jpg disgustingJul 21 19:09
MinceRshould be Inuit Fudge Pie?Jul 21 19:10
XRevan86MinceR: That sounds less like ice cream and more like a linguistic phenomenon.Jul 21 19:14
MinceR:)Jul 21 19:14
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DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "is it insulting to non-white peo"> MinceR: It promotes the "black mammy stereotype".Jul 21 19:22
DaemonFC[m]They shadowbanned Gone with the Wind too.Jul 21 19:22
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DaemonFC[m]You know, it's not illegal to watch it, but the streaming companies delisted it and nobody will produce it on DVD anymore. :)Jul 21 19:23
DaemonFC[m]Copyright law makes it easy to suppress things when they become inconvenient to the current situation.Jul 21 19:24
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: You download stuff from rutracker, right?Jul 21 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Fortunately, people ripped the DVD and Blu Ray versions and so nobody can really take it back now, but you have to infringe copyright to watch it, even though it's not illegal to watch.Jul 21 19:25
DaemonFC[m]MinceR It just furthers the point that breaking DRM and sharing stuff is the only way to make sure a working copy always exists.Jul 21 19:26
DaemonFC[m]XRevan86 sometimes. I can't read Russian but I can sort of feel my way around.Jul 21 19:27
XRevan86That's one placeJul 21 19:27
MinceR21 202223 < DaemonFC[m]> <MinceR "is it insulting to non-white peo"> MinceR: It promotes the "black mammy stereotype".Jul 21 19:27
MinceRwhat is that?Jul 21 19:28
DaemonFC[m]God confused the languages so that people couldn't work together to build a tower to heaven, don'tcha know?Jul 21 19:28
MinceRlolJul 21 19:28
DaemonFC[m]Like so many things, that only works when people have no understanding of the universe. So they explain it again. It's now a metaphor.Jul 21 19:29
DaemonFC[m]God doesn't want people to evolve to challenge him.Jul 21 19:29
DaemonFC[m]Oh.....so basically he's the Ori.Jul 21 19:29
DaemonFC[m]Gotcha.Jul 21 19:29
MinceR"God" doesn't existJul 21 19:29
MinceRauthoritarians don't want the people they want to keep as slaves to be educated or smartJul 21 19:29
MinceRstupid and uneducated people are easier to controlJul 21 19:30
MinceRfor example, religion works better on themJul 21 19:30
MinceRand yeah, i can't find a closer match to the Ori among the religions of Earth than abrahamismJul 21 19:30
MinceRspecifically, christianityJul 21 19:30
DaemonFC[m]> what is that?Jul 21 19:30
DaemonFC[m]A black slave who was working in a plantation house. Often depicted as happy to be there and having a role over the children much like an "aunt".Jul 21 19:30
MinceRso it's insulting to blacks that some of them could find happiness in slavery?Jul 21 19:31
MinceRor is it a lie?Jul 21 19:31
DaemonFC[m]He creates us to do nothing but worship him and we're not supposed to try to improve ourselves and we are to remain ignorant of the nature of our world.Jul 21 19:31
DaemonFC[m]It's disgusting. It's disgusting when you frame it like that and that's why they don't.Jul 21 19:32
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MinceRyeah, their "morality" is seriously fucked upJul 21 19:32
DaemonFC[m]A benevolent creator would never do that.Jul 21 19:33
DaemonFC[m]It would say go and build yourselves up. One day you'll be like me or even surpass me, and I'll be happy when that day arrives.Jul 21 19:33
MinceRthose illiterate bronze age savages that started this whole business were so deeply immoral, they couldn't even conceive what a benevolent creator would be likeJul 21 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Not some control freak who smites people.Jul 21 19:33
MinceRand it just propagated from thereJul 21 19:33
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DaemonFC[m]Eh, death may be inevitable. With any technology or medicine.Jul 21 19:35
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XRevan86MinceR: Joy doesn't exist under oppression.Jul 21 19:35
DaemonFC[m]People fear not existing, but it's not negotiableJul 21 19:35
DaemonFC[m]So instead of facing death with some dignity, they have to create stories.Jul 21 19:36
XRevan86Any saying otherwise is support for said oppression.Jul 21 19:36
kingoffrance"before abraham, i was" christ was supposed to make "the lord" obsolete, but thats rewritten now for 2nd comingJul 21 19:36
DaemonFC[m]People have a deep seated need to feel in control even when they aren't.Jul 21 19:36
MinceRXRevan86: there are degrees of oppression. pretty much every human that exists today is oppressed to some degree.Jul 21 19:36
*XRevan86 hasn't really picked a stance, it's a pretty subtle thing.Jul 21 19:36
kingoffrancewhoopsJul 21 19:37
kingoffrance"before abraham was, i am"Jul 21 19:37
MinceRyet when it is revealed that i'm not happy about this, people claim i'm "depressed"Jul 21 19:37
MinceRso it seems that joy does actually exist under oppression after allJul 21 19:37
DaemonFC[m]Sometimes they get that they aren't in control of their life and try to bring about their death so that they can control that.Jul 21 19:37
XRevan86"many persons were happy under Stalin"Jul 21 19:37
MinceR21 203651 < DaemonFC[m]> People have a deep seated need to feel in control even when they aren't.Jul 21 19:37
XRevan86Technically true, but you can see why it may raise an eye brow.Jul 21 19:37
MinceRyet many people have exerted considerable effort to have a particular person oppress themJul 21 19:38
MinceRdo orban's worshippers feel in control because their favorite gypsy owns them and rules over them?Jul 21 19:38
DaemonFC[m]Yes.Jul 21 19:38
MinceRhumans are fucked up.Jul 21 19:38
kingoffrance"many persons were happy under Stalin"   lol yes thats like that smbc  accountant in bar thing a few days ago lolJul 21 19:39
kingoffrance"on average, stats say you are happy"Jul 21 19:39
MinceR:>Jul 21 19:39
DaemonFC[m]Metaphorically speaking, we die numerous times.Jul 21 19:40
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DaemonFC[m]Something so extreme will happen that it will level our psyche and repairs will have to happen.Jul 21 19:40
DaemonFC[m]That's sort of what happened to me this year. My mom said that I've stopped panicking all the time. People have said that my tone of voice and demeanor have changed.Jul 21 19:41
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DaemonFC[m]I said that there's only so much trauma that can be inflicted at once before you just start going "What is it now?".Jul 21 19:42
DaemonFC[m]It's like that Aliens movie where Bishop points out the emergency reactor venting and Hicks goes "How long until it blows?".Jul 21 19:43
DaemonFC[m]I mean at a certain point you're overwhelmed and it blows a fuse to try to protect the rest of your mind, so to speak.Jul 21 19:43
DaemonFC[m]Frankly, if anyone had gone back and told me 20 years ago what the next 20 years worth of problems would have been, I don't think I could have taken it. You know, knowing all of that. Jul 21 19:50
DaemonFC[m]Then you get to a point where everyone is trying to kill you, basically, and you're like "Fuck this, I'm going to fight all of you on the goddamned beaches!".Jul 21 19:51
*psydread shares the sentiment and the spiritJul 21 19:51
DaemonFC[m]As surprising and impossible as it sounds, I think that my sister in law is jealous of my somewhere inside. Jul 21 19:54
DaemonFC[m]I didn't pin myself down with kids and a partner I can't stand, and then financially ruin us intentionally as a form of "bonding".Jul 21 19:54
DaemonFC[m]Then I got to set it all on fire and walk away.Jul 21 19:54
DaemonFC[m]I have all my bills and my probation forms and I'm going to burn all of them with a cigarette lighter when this closes out.Jul 21 19:55
DaemonFC[m]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9RIHOnGGsgJul 21 20:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Portal & Portal 2 Songs ("Still alive" & "Want you gone" & "Turret song") - YouTubeJul 21 20:01
DaemonFC[m]I think I'll email this to John after the probation no contact order expires.Jul 21 20:01
MinceR:)Jul 21 20:01
DaemonFC[m]Go make some new disaster. That's what I'm counting on. You're someone else's problem. Now I only want you gone.Jul 21 20:03
DaemonFC[m]After the "I'm still alive" taunts.Jul 21 20:03
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Now the far right is all like "Do any of you know someone who died of COVID?".Jul 21 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Well, mom does.Jul 21 20:08
DaemonFC[m]Anyway, more "I found a snowball so global warming is fake." stuff.Jul 21 20:08
DaemonFC[m]These people are now getting mowed down by something that can't be reasoned with and doesn't care if you believe it's real or not, and they don't know whether to shit or wind their wristwatch. Jul 21 20:09
MinceRlolJul 21 20:09
kingoffranceppl who are trapped have some unconscious urge to trap others IMOJul 21 20:18
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DaemonFC[m]Amazon be all like "Your order was shipped with UPS Maybe Post."Jul 21 20:25
DaemonFC[m]"Will it get there? Maybe. Depends on where the guy feels like throwing it and if the black people see a package before you find it."Jul 21 20:25
DaemonFC[m]"Oh, it's meds that mean life and death for you that they have no use for? Okay, they'll steal it anyway. They're like the dog from Rick & Morty that ate Jerry's unemployment check just to watch him suffer."Jul 21 20:26
DaemonFC[m]"Cosmic punishment from the universe. Slavery was bad. Sins of the father and all that."Jul 21 20:27
DaemonFC[m]"You medication is reparations. It's America so the pills have black market value."Jul 21 20:27
DaemonFC[m]"Can we say black market? I mean Deny Market or Block Market."Jul 21 20:28
DaemonFC[m]"Fantasy Documents are used in serious circles all the time." says a guy on Reddit.Jul 21 20:29
DaemonFC[m]"I once saw a paper that said they could completely evacuate Long Island in 8 hours if a nuclear power plant melted down."Jul 21 20:29
MinceRlol @ deny marketJul 21 20:30
DaemonFC[m]It's fucking retarded.Jul 21 20:30
DaemonFC[m]I mean, differently abled.Jul 21 20:30
kingoffrancelolJul 21 20:30
DaemonFC[m]Good old euphemism treadmill.Jul 21 20:31
DaemonFC[m]Then there was that incident at the CVS pharmacy in Rogers Park, Chicago when I lived there.Jul 21 20:31
DaemonFC[m]Some black lady came in with a coupon for adult diapers and the manager was shaking like a leaf and trying to get the police to come investigate "suspicious coupon".Jul 21 20:32
DaemonFC[m]She said, "You can say black. It's not a bad word.".Jul 21 20:32
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if the phrase "Behind the 8 ball." is acceptable.Jul 21 20:34
DaemonFC[m]The 8 ball is black.Jul 21 20:34
DaemonFC[m]For that matter, perhaps billiards is racist.Jul 21 20:34
DaemonFC[m]The black ball with the 8 on it is just kind of in the way and making things difficult.Jul 21 20:34
DaemonFC[m]It really pisses you off and that's the only function it has. Jul 21 20:35
DaemonFC[m]Maybe we can re-arrange the colors so that no balls are black and we just do a dazzle paint job on the 8 ball to make it modern and even more annoying.Jul 21 20:36
MinceRgravity causes black holes, therefore gravity is racistJul 21 20:38
DaemonFC[m]https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senate-gop-supports-round-relief-checks-checks-americans/story?id=71895527Jul 21 20:40
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-abcnews.go.com | Senate GOP supports another round of stimulus checks to Americans: McConnell - ABC NewsJul 21 20:40
DaemonFC[m]Another smoke screen for corporate welfare incoming.Jul 21 20:40
kingoffrancewell corporations are Americans too dontchaknowJul 21 20:40
DaemonFC[m]I wonder how many people will use these for bankruptcy.Jul 21 20:40
kingoffrancethat was a sarah palin impersonationJul 21 20:41
MinceR"Corporations are people, my friend!"Jul 21 20:42
kingoffranceyes, they call him mittens, i dunno whyJul 21 20:42
MinceR:>Jul 21 20:42
kingoffrancesecret of mana neko wears mittens so i dont like itJul 21 20:42
MinceRhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlPQkd_AA6cJul 21 20:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Romney: Corporations Are People, My Friend. - YouTubeJul 21 20:43
DaemonFC[m]UPS lost the package againJul 21 20:44
DaemonFC[m]Couldn't find the post office I guess.Jul 21 20:44
kingoffrancehes not wrong, but should be persons i think; it depends on type of law i believe.    the whole thing is corpses are dead, so you need people to "represent" them;    so hes not wrong if hes saying they are dead ppl, spirit without body.Jul 21 20:44
kingoffrancealive == spirit + corpseJul 21 20:44
kingoffrancedead == just oneJul 21 20:44
kingoffrancecorporation = join spirit + some body of people to act as its "body"Jul 21 20:45
DaemonFC[m]"Say or enter the destination zip code."Jul 21 20:45
DaemonFC[m]60079Jul 21 20:45
DaemonFC[m]"That was 00789, is that correct?".Jul 21 20:45
kingoffranceso corporations are dead people and living people "act as their body" is more accurate IMOJul 21 20:46
kingoffrancecorporations are spirits with no body of their own is betterJul 21 20:46
MinceRcorporations are a legal fictionJul 21 20:47
kingoffrance^^^Jul 21 20:47
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DaemonFC[m]I figured out how to get UPS to answer.Jul 21 20:53
DaemonFC[m]Tell it you're shipping a package and then tell it you need an agent.Jul 21 20:53
DaemonFC[m]IF you say you're tracking a package and need an agent, it will hang up.Jul 21 20:54
DaemonFC[m]Track a package = "We have your money. What are you going to do?"Jul 21 20:54
kingoffrancealchemy wise spirit == male, theres supposed to be female "soul" (body of a spirit) in there somewhere, else you cant join to a body.    i dont know how that translates to law or if they were trying to be "compatible", some things claim corpse( spirit) doesnt work and/or isnt stable, you need  corpse(soul(spirit)) ; anyways...i dont know who came up with this scheme or what their "inspiration(s)" were, just saying possibly there is one more Jul 21 20:55
kingoffrance"layer" in there somewhereJul 21 20:55
kingoffranceif corpoprations sound like witchcraft IMO they areJul 21 20:56
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kingoffranceincorporate == give a body to (thing that doesnt have a body)  so to me it seems like "incarnate" its aliveJul 21 21:06
kingoffranceincarnating "ideas" or "goals" IMO "charter" whateverJul 21 21:08
DaemonFC[m]This place is fucking gross as hell.Jul 21 21:10
DaemonFC[m]This is like the kind of motel where Phil Katz died.Jul 21 21:11
DaemonFC[m]I was reading a story about his last several years.Jul 21 21:11
DaemonFC[m]They said that he forced his mother out of the company and then wouldn't speak to her again for the rest of his life (1995-2000) because he called the cops to do a wellness check on him and the cop broke in the window of his house and found trash everywhere, and startled Katz who "only agreed to call his mother when [the cop left]".Jul 21 21:13
DaemonFC[m]He was furious.Jul 21 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Then he got busted for driving drunk, then several times for driving with no license, skipped court dates, and then went into hiding, managing the company over email.Jul 21 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Living in cheap motels. The neighbors complained of a stench coming from his condo, and the city came in and found bugs and half eaten food and mounds of trash everywhere.Jul 21 21:14
DaemonFC[m]Cleaned it and charged him $8,000 for that.Jul 21 21:15
DaemonFC[m]Nobody could force him to get help because the law up in Wisconsin says you have to be a danger to self or others. He was, but what they meant was they didn't care.Jul 21 21:15
DaemonFC[m]As long as you pay for stuff with cash and live in cheap hotels it's not necessarily like they know where you are.Jul 21 21:16
DaemonFC[m]They could probably have tracked where he was sending his emails from, but they didn't.Jul 21 21:16
DaemonFC[m]It was kind of weird really, that he was running his company and sending patches and stuff for the software over email while he was hiding out from misdemeanor warrants. Jul 21 21:17
DaemonFC[m]Wikipedia says (with no citation, trying to find one) that Katz absolutely despised Windows and dismissed it as a passing fad, and therefore didn't even have a Windows version of PKZip until like 1996.Jul 21 21:18
DaemonFC[m]I wonder if he ever went into depth about that. Jul 21 21:19
DaemonFC[m]I didn't find Windows 3.1 to be really all that useful. It didn't even have Internet access without major surgery and third party software.Jul 21 21:20
DaemonFC[m]The interesting part, to me, was that IE apparently worked on Windows 3.1 as a backport, the 32-bit version, all the way up to 5.01, with the Win32s update.Jul 21 21:20
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DaemonFC[m]GUIs stuck, but maybe Katz was right that Windows was a passing fad that took a couple decades to start fading away.Jul 21 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft is quite defensive about that. They absolutely insist that Windows 10 is a success despite most of the market drifting away to Chromebooks and phones.Jul 21 21:23
DaemonFC[m]Or Linux (business and some consumer).Jul 21 21:24
DaemonFC[m]The part that amuses me is that Chrome OS is moving into higher tiers of computing, with Linux apps and Steam.Jul 21 21:24
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maricel was pretty dismissive of Chromebooks. I said, "Yeah, but some people spend 20 times more on a Mac and then just run Chrome and not a lot else on it.".Jul 21 21:25
schestowitzlolJul 21 21:26
schestowitzthe used mac will net her the price of a chromebook at the pawn shopJul 21 21:26
schestowitzwhen they go underJul 21 21:26
schestowitztell her thatJul 21 21:26
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Yeah, she "loves" Apple. The funny part was Mandy was using the Macbook that time forgot and Chrome was screaming that it hadn't had a security update in 5 years.Jul 21 21:27
DaemonFC[m]So that's what you get as soon as the Mac OS updates stop.Jul 21 21:27
DaemonFC[m]He's like "I have to give this back to my sister.".Jul 21 21:27
DaemonFC[m]I said, "What do you want me to do? Pull up and chuck it out the passenger window into their lawn?".Jul 21 21:28
DaemonFC[m]He says, "No the security cameras will see you!".Jul 21 21:28
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Yeah, the security cameras to protect their maxed out credit cards from the black people.".Jul 21 21:28
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: She was ridiculing my Impala. Jul 21 21:29
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Eh, you're always paying for it. The difference is that the shop I go to isn't embarrassed to put their prices on the sign.".Jul 21 21:29
DaemonFC[m]The funny part I read is that if you actually want a BMW warranty from years 2 to 5, they charge like $5,500 and it's "Not negotiable because that's what's in the computer!".Jul 21 21:30
DaemonFC[m]So like an idiot she not only finances one, but skips over the warranty, and she's ended up paying them more than the warranty would have cost in repair bills.Jul 21 21:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The funny part is that when they go under, it's all going away.Jul 21 21:31
DaemonFC[m]The broken cars that still have payments.Jul 21 21:32
DaemonFC[m]The house.Jul 21 21:32
DaemonFC[m]The credit card people will be crawling up their asses.Jul 21 21:32
kingoffrancecar person telling you somethign is not negotiable LOLJul 21 21:32
kingoffranceyour firstborn is negotiableJul 21 21:32
DaemonFC[m]They're bragging about how much they work and they deserve to enjoy what they have.Jul 21 21:33
DaemonFC[m]They got made at me when I said, "While you're at work?".Jul 21 21:33
DaemonFC[m]It's a paradox. I work hard and I deserve to enjoy what I have!Jul 21 21:33
DaemonFC[m]Right, that would be between the 10 hours at work, the 8 hours of sleep, and traffic.Jul 21 21:33
DaemonFC[m]They're trying to convince themselves of that, it sounds like.Jul 21 21:34
DaemonFC[m]Then they have two kids who call their own mother a monster and a bitch.Jul 21 21:35
DaemonFC[m]They're not wrong. Jul 21 21:35
DaemonFC[m]<kingoffrance "car person telling you somethign"> Of course it's negotiable. You get up and walk out the door and the guy will suddenly go talk to his boss about it.Jul 21 21:36
DaemonFC[m]Wouldn't you know? He really went to bat and that warranty is $1,000 less now.Jul 21 21:36
DaemonFC[m]These people are dumb and psychologically telling someone it's not negotiable gains compliance.Jul 21 21:37
DaemonFC[m]Then if it doesn't, it is negotiable and "I've never seen my boss do this before but.....".Jul 21 21:37
DaemonFC[m]80-90% of the time it is $5,500 because people go yeah sure okay and comply.Jul 21 21:37
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DaemonFC[m]Psychology is all about gaining compliance from people. Jul 21 21:39
DaemonFC[m]Scientology uses a form of psychology to control people and get them to be very opposed to psychology.Jul 21 21:42
kingoffranceyeah my friend who temped they told him if customer wants a flying purple ufo with yellow polka dots...tell them we have it!Jul 21 21:43
kingoffranceget you in the door and you know, maybe something else is practically the sameJul 21 21:43
kingoffranceeven betterJul 21 21:43
kingoffrancelolJul 21 21:43
kingoffrancetheyll pretend to look i suppose, knowing they dont have it buy hey guess what i did find almost the same thingJul 21 21:44
kingoffrancetoday is your lucky dayJul 21 21:44
kingoffrancewell i guess maybe they are all temps, i just mean he needed a job that wasnt his normal thingJul 21 21:45
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schestowitzUS will have over 1,000 covid19 deaths today, based on what we're seeing so farJul 21 21:52
DaemonFC[m]That Kia of Lincolnwood (formerly Grossinger) is buying cars from Costco and selling them at their dealership.Jul 21 21:53
DaemonFC[m]They get so many points on their CostCo corporate credit card, it's cheaper than buying them from Kia.Jul 21 21:53
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/21/politics/white-house-census-undocumented-immigrants/index.htmlJul 21 21:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump signs order targeting undocumented immigrants in the US census - CNNPoliticsJul 21 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Meh, he's getting mostly his own voters killed.Jul 21 21:56
DaemonFC[m]Has to level this playing field somehow I guess.Jul 21 21:56
DaemonFC[m]There's a lot of illegal immigrants living in red states.Jul 21 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Texas might have more than a million.Jul 21 21:57
DaemonFC[m]They live in cities though.Jul 21 21:57
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/07/19/azure-layoffs-and-beyond/Jul 21 21:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Lays Off Azure Staff and Much More, Spins These Layoffs as “Optimization Strategy” | TechrightsJul 21 21:58
schestowitzFL +132  deathsJul 21 22:04
schestowitzAZ  134Jul 21 22:04
schestowitzAll the red states are most redJul 21 22:04
schestowitzGAJul 21 22:04
schestowitzSCJul 21 22:04
schestowitzTXJul 21 22:04
schestowitzLOJul 21 22:04
schestowitzbecause "masks" are "liberal hoax" anywayJul 21 22:05
DaemonFC[m]Jesus..... I thought my card was cloned.Jul 21 22:05
DaemonFC[m]It says "PBC Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin".Jul 21 22:06
DaemonFC[m]Turns out I bought a Pepsi in a vending machine outside Walmart and that's what it was.Jul 21 22:06
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "All the red states are most red"> Good. Fuck em.Jul 21 22:06
DaemonFC[m]Let it burn out there and then reopen our great economy when Trump is gone.Jul 21 22:07
DaemonFC[m]Stupid people. Shitty results.Jul 21 22:07
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Maybe when Trump's "Shitter's Full!" immigration policy is suspended by President Biden, there will be more slots open.Jul 21 22:14
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schestowitzEach time I link to phoronix is becomes unresponsive for about 20 secsJul 21 22:18
schestowitzhe moved to hosting from homeJul 21 22:18
schestowitzlost the old capacity levelJul 21 22:18
schestowitzeven 40 secondsJul 21 22:19
schestowitzjust nowJul 21 22:19
schestowitzwowJul 21 22:19
schestowitzhe needs to do somethingJul 21 22:19
schestowitz928 us deaths so far todayJul 21 22:19
schestowitz4 hours to goJul 21 22:19
schestowitz37 dead in VAJul 21 22:19
schestowitzcovid19 all of themJul 21 22:20
DaemonFC[m]COVID-19844Jul 21 22:21
DaemonFC[m]*1984Jul 21 22:21
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schestowitz960 deadJul 21 22:29
schestowitz56k cases so farJul 21 22:30
schestowitzthis will be the worst day since almost MayJul 21 22:30
schestowitzI wonder how many vegetables there will beJul 21 22:30
schestowitzpeople who can no longer breathe on their ownJul 21 22:31
schestowitzand remortgage the home to keep puggedJul 21 22:31
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18622725Jul 21 22:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: US needs to re-enter lock-down/quarantine, then actually use bloody masks afterwards. Today will be the worst (most deadly) day since May (or so it appears so far). Jul 21 22:35
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DaemonFC[m]SACRIFICE THE WEAK! OPEN UP!Jul 21 22:43
DaemonFC[m]WHAT DO WE WANT? WAFFLE HOUSE! WHEN DO WE WANT IT? COUGH COUGH COUGH MAGA!!!! THUDJul 21 22:43
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schestowitzlolJul 21 22:47
schestowitzus tourists are already bannedJul 21 22:48
schestowitzso even if they open up like that...Jul 21 22:48
schestowitzthey would not be able to go about with busienss as usualJul 21 22:48
schestowitzalso, the young would not have access to hospitalsJul 21 22:48
schestowitzas they would be overwhelmedJul 21 22:48
DaemonFC[m]John still hasn't paid his speeding ticket.Jul 21 22:48
schestowitzso they too can die from simple thingsJul 21 22:48
schestowitzyou get his mail?Jul 21 22:49
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DaemonFC[m]If that doesn't get paid, they reopen the case, and put out an arrest warrant for Failure To Appear and explain why it's not paid.Jul 21 22:50
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I qualified for a license plate sticker fee waiver.Jul 21 22:52
DaemonFC[m]I told the state to cancel it. He can come up with the $151. Jul 21 22:52
DaemonFC[m]I got his renewal reminder because they sent it addressed to me to the house in Fox Lake.Jul 21 22:53
DaemonFC[m]I laughed.Jul 21 22:53
DaemonFC[m]I couldn't call him and remind him so that's really on him. The court told me not to speak to him. So if he forgets to renew it and they impound the car and sell it for scrap metal, that's his problem.Jul 21 22:53
DaemonFC[m]It's not like I would if I could. Anything that happens, he deserves it and more.Jul 21 22:54
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DaemonFC[m]I could definitely see this speeding ticket closing out with an arrest warrant because he was spending his money trying to get teenagers to fuck him instead of paying a fine.Jul 21 22:55
DaemonFC[m]Oh my god, if they knew half of it, he'd never see the light of day again.Jul 21 22:56
DaemonFC[m]That episode of South Park where Mr. Garrison was trying to get fired for being gay so he'd have a lawsuit against the school, and the kids tried reporting it and got sent to a "Death Camp of Tolerance" was on a few nights ago.Jul 21 22:57
DaemonFC[m]Mr. Slave says, "You're going about this the wrong way. You have to make the PARENTS see what kind of a demented faggot you really are.".Jul 21 22:57
DaemonFC[m]That would be John.Jul 21 22:58
DaemonFC[m]He's working at the airport, or at least was, feeling up teenagers and telling me how much he enjoyed it.Jul 21 22:59
DaemonFC[m]I bought a separate bin for his laundry because there'd be cum stains all over his clothes, including his TSA uniform.Jul 21 22:59
DaemonFC[m]I probably don't want to know.Jul 21 23:00
DaemonFC[m]The TSA is fucking gross and it's the government so nothing happens. There's guys like John at every airport, I guarantee it. Jul 21 23:00
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schestowitzwith about 10 states left to report US #covid19 death toll for today is already about 1,000. May be worse day since May.Jul 21 23:05
schestowitzworstJul 21 23:05
schestowitzhttps://joindiaspora.com/posts/18622908Jul 21 23:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Those #trump "tweets" publicly and smugly mocking mask wearers won't age well. Well, Trump voters won't age well, either... judging by that age group and how it's transferred into hospitals. Jul 21 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Who says worst?Jul 21 23:07
DaemonFC[m]A better world means worse for some.Jul 21 23:07
schestowitznumber of deathsJul 21 23:08
schestowitzUS needs another lockdownJul 21 23:08
schestowitz981 deathsJul 21 23:08
schestowitzit will be around 1100 in totalJul 21 23:08
schestowitzthere will certainly be many headlines about thisJul 21 23:08
schestowitzas he said death toll was decreasingJul 21 23:08
schestowitzclearly not the caseJul 21 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Mostly bulldozing a bunch of shitheads who would vote for Trump again anyway.Jul 21 23:09
DaemonFC[m]Byeee.Jul 21 23:09
schestowitzthat's a dangerous generalisationJul 21 23:13
schestowitzand a form of collective punishment-minded thinkingJul 21 23:13
schestowitzyou need to oust this idiotic regimeJul 21 23:13
schestowitzthe country is dying in more than the sense of pertinent peopleJul 21 23:14
schestowitzand this will also doom the economyJul 21 23:14
schestowitzwith 27 trillion in debtJul 21 23:14
schestowitzand not needing to enter ANOTHER lock-downJul 21 23:14
schestowitzor let everyone catch the thing, causing major mayhem and PR tollJul 21 23:14
DaemonFC[m]Oh well.Jul 21 23:17
DaemonFC[m]Tough lesson, huh?Jul 21 23:18
DaemonFC[m]This is much better than Hillary Clinton's email server.Jul 21 23:18
DaemonFC[m]They made it happen. They let it happen.Jul 21 23:19
DaemonFC[m]"Oh, we're just such a great generation and you stupid entitled kids just want free shit becaue you're here!"Jul 21 23:19
DaemonFC[m]Then this happens to them.Jul 21 23:19
DaemonFC[m]Then we spend $7 trillion dollars on the fucking coronavirus, which is more than Iraq and Afghanistan, in a matter of months, as the disaster grows worse, because..... Wouldn't you know it? All of the "recovery" money went to Trump and his criminal friends.Jul 21 23:20
schestowitzyupJul 21 23:21
schestowitzthe people who lose a little wealth... on paperJul 21 23:21
schestowitzbut could still buy groceriesJul 21 23:21
schestowitznow with money looted from taxpayers they buy BACK THE SHARESJul 21 23:21
DaemonFC[m]So, at this point, what difference does it make? Those old people were angry about the idea of "free college" and "free healthcare" and they thought, "Hey, this asshole Trump will stick it to immigrants." and yeah, maybe some collective punishment is the cure.Jul 21 23:22
schestowitzbuybacks ae embezzlement, technicallyJul 21 23:22
DaemonFC[m]It's happening anyway.Jul 21 23:22
schestowitzand THERE! You're back to your old multi-billion valueJul 21 23:22
schestowitzlet the "plebs" starveJul 21 23:22
schestowitzand they lay off the company's staffJul 21 23:22
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "buybacks ae embezzlement, techni"> It's a hack because they're not technically stealing, but the value of their shares goes up, then they sell.Jul 21 23:22
schestowitzthey write off the lossesJul 21 23:23
schestowitzand the taxpayers payJul 21 23:23
schestowitzas usualJul 21 23:23
schestowitzat least here we have a program that sort of supports laid of peopleJul 21 23:23
schestowitzfor nowJul 21 23:23
schestowitz*offJul 21 23:23
DaemonFC[m]This has been a gigantic game of Chicken between the states, and the Republicans flinched and that's why it's coming down hard on them.Jul 21 23:24
DaemonFC[m]It'll burn out down there and then we can start reopening.Jul 21 23:24
DaemonFC[m]Rolling shutdowns is so not going to work, but Trump failed to lead and now the states are doing 50 different things at once.Jul 21 23:25
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schestowitz1,047 deathsJul 21 23:34
schestowitzmore reports from hospitals inJul 21 23:34
schestowitzmaybe it can reach 1,2000 todayJul 21 23:35
schestowitzremove the last zeroJul 21 23:35
schestowitz7 more states to reportJul 21 23:35
schestowitzreality winner the nsa WBer has covid nowJul 21 23:35
schestowitzas some warnedJul 21 23:35
schestowitzGA is full of mark-hating idiotsJul 21 23:36
schestowitzI think her facility is full of itJul 21 23:36
schestowitzmaybe 500 of themJul 21 23:36
schestowitzit can become a morgueJul 21 23:36
schestowitzher immune system can copeJul 21 23:37
schestowitzbut she should never have been there in the first placeJul 21 23:37
schestowitzshe should have been given an award, insteadJul 21 23:37
schestowitzus will soon be 5th or 6th worst in the world for death/capitaJul 21 23:41
schestowitz*deathsJul 21 23:41
schestowitzand the numbers go up, not downJul 21 23:41
schestowitzhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/07/trump-is-angry-media-wont-report-false-or-cherry-picked-coronavirus-death-data/\Jul 21 23:42
schestowitzhttps://www.vox.com/2020/5/14/21257247/trump-coronavirus-death-statsJul 21 23:42
schestowitzhttps://www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/05/10/death-toll-conspiracy-why-conservative-media-and-soon-possibly-trump-are-doubting-coronavirus-mortality-figures/Jul 21 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 400 @ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/07/trump-is-angry-media-wont-report-false-or-cherry-picked-coronavirus-death-data/\/?arc404=true )Jul 21 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump thinks coronavirus death tolls are overstated - VoxJul 21 23:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.forbes.com | Death Toll Conspiracy: Why Conservative Media—And Soon, Possibly Trump—Are Doubting Coronavirus Mortality FiguresJul 21 23:43
schestowitz"President Donald Trump said the U.S. will end its support for the World Health Organization as the U.S. death toll neared 103000." https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-05-30-coronavirus-news-n1219386Jul 21 23:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Trump says U.S. will end support for WHO, as death toll nears 103,000Jul 21 23:45
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "maybe it can reach 1,2000 today"> Yeah, they voted for Trump and left me in a run down motel eating power bars and hoping that Immigration schedules an interview soon. Not sympathetic.Jul 21 23:46
DaemonFC[m]Just trying to avoid getting it myself.Jul 21 23:47
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DaemonFC[m]The worst part of this is that a bunch of people are going  to die but they won't just do it all at once and get it over with.Jul 21 23:49
DaemonFC[m]It just drags on.Jul 21 23:49
DaemonFC[m]As it drags on, it ruins the economy and traps people inside and we get to see these stupid people on parade refusing to wear masks and pulling guns on people over it.Jul 21 23:50
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DaemonFC[m]I'm about at my wit's end over this mess. I'm so very depressed from having to stay in because everyone outside is hacking up a lung and I don't want to be next.Jul 21 23:52
DaemonFC[m]I'm hardly alone in the "They had it coming." assessment of most of the Coronavirus victims.Jul 21 23:52
DaemonFC[m]The New York Times was talking about "Oh, this guy who owned a bar and wore a Trump hat was so nice and what did he do to deserve it?". I'll tell you what he did to deserve it. They want to support a monster and let him loose on good and decent people and then how dare you criticize them for what they've done.Jul 21 23:53

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