(ℹ) Join us now at the IRC channel | ䷉ Find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.
DaemonFC | Employed and insured. | Aug 21 00:01 |
---|---|---|
DaemonFC | The Democrats have been good to us, Roy | Aug 21 00:01 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 21 00:08 | |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 00:09 | |
DaemonFC | Holy shit. CNN actually respects the save-data HTTP header. | Aug 21 00:11 |
psydruid | Weapons of Mass Destruction | Aug 21 00:13 |
psydruid | of American lives | Aug 21 00:13 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 00:20 |
*psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 00:21 | |
DaemonFC | https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/teamviewer-font-privacy.html | Aug 21 00:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ctrl.blog | TeamViewer installs suspicious font only useful for web fingerprinting | Ctrl blog | Aug 21 00:32 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], ^ | Aug 21 00:33 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 21 00:34 | |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Remote host closed the connection) | Aug 21 00:37 | |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 00:38 | |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 00:38 | |
*heureka (~heureka@fici29dumxqp6.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 00:42 | |
*bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 00:47 | |
*bnchs (~bnchs@zwzkfcikyyb4q.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 00:50 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▄▂▂▂█▁██▇▄█▁▂█▁▂▁▃▂▃█▁▁▃▂▃▂▂▂▃▁▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 110.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁█▁▂██▇▇▇▁█▁██▂▃████▁▂▇███▃▁▂█▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 148.53▕ swarm size (avg): 107.80 ⟲ | Aug 21 00:59 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Great Clips sent me a hair cut coupon. $14.99 (plus tip obviously). | Aug 21 01:00 |
DaemonFC | The coupons used to be like $8.99 or $9.99 a couple of years ago. | Aug 21 01:00 |
DaemonFC | So even the coupon rate for a haircut (pre-tip) is 150% of what it cost two years ago. | Aug 21 01:01 |
DaemonFC | But inflation "is only 8-9% per year". | Aug 21 01:01 |
DaemonFC | What we're really seeing is a fire burning out of control. | Aug 21 01:03 |
DaemonFC | https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/fed-minutes-may-hint-rationale-size-coming-rate-hikes-2022-08-17/ | Aug 21 01:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Fed minutes show more rate hikes in the pipeline, but pace could slow | Reuters | Aug 21 01:04 | |
DaemonFC | "Participants agreed that there was little evidence to date that inflation pressures were subsiding," the minutes said. | Aug 21 01:04 |
DaemonFC | "Though some reduction in inflation, which has been running at four-decade highs, might occur through improving global supply chains or drops in the prices of fuel and other commodities, much of the heavy lifting would have to come by imposing such high borrowing costs on businesses and households that they would spend less, the minutes stated." | Aug 21 01:05 |
DaemonFC | Which basically "puts out the fire" by causing job loss. | Aug 21 01:05 |
DaemonFC | Like Clintonista economist Larry Summers gloating that their plan is to double the unemployment rate "for five years". | Aug 21 01:06 |
heureka | DaemonFC: it is +50% in how many years exactly? | Aug 21 01:12 |
DaemonFC | In early 2020, right before lockdown bullshit, the coupons said "$9.99+tax". | Aug 21 01:13 |
DaemonFC | Now they say "$14.99+tax". | Aug 21 01:13 |
heureka | +50% total in 10 years for example is equivalent to an annual inflation of +4.5% compound interest | Aug 21 01:13 |
DaemonFC | Yes, but it's +50 in 2 years and 6 months. | Aug 21 01:13 |
heureka | question is, when a haircut first was available for $10 | Aug 21 01:14 |
DaemonFC | So what does that work out to? | Aug 21 01:14 |
heureka | for example, if a haircut was $10 in year 2010, then the inflation in thos should be calcualted since 2010 | Aug 21 01:14 |
DaemonFC | Well, in 2008, they were sending out the "$6.99+tax" coupons. | Aug 21 01:14 |
DaemonFC | So we know that in 12 years, it only went up by $3, but then in 2.5 years it went up another $5. | Aug 21 01:15 |
heureka | ok, then to keep it simple let's say 2010 it was $10, and 2020 it increased +50% in 10 years | Aug 21 01:15 |
*heureka has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 01:15 | |
*heureka (~heureka@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 01:15 | |
DaemonFC | It's weird that it stayed so remarkably stable for a decade. | Aug 21 01:15 |
DaemonFC | Then in 2.5 years they're like "Fuck this!" and hiked it up 50% all at once. | Aug 21 01:16 |
DaemonFC | A comedian joked that Bill Gates "refused to spend more than $10 on a haircut". | Aug 21 01:17 |
heureka | well, if annual income increase averaged at +4.5% compound interest then they lost several years of income already | Aug 21 01:17 |
DaemonFC | I suppose that would be the $15 haircut today. | Aug 21 01:17 |
DaemonFC | So we know Gates won't go over 15 on a haircut or a girl. | Aug 21 01:17 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], You mentioned Gates, Epstein and JONES earlier. | Aug 21 01:18 |
MinceR | i don't care how much gAIDS spends on haircuts | Aug 21 01:18 |
MinceR | i do care about what he's done to this industry and to this society | Aug 21 01:18 |
DaemonFC | I've noticed that pedos lose interest fast after about age 15. | Aug 21 01:18 |
DaemonFC | So I'm certain it isn't only about power, because it would still be breaking the law for a year or two in most states. | Aug 21 01:19 |
DaemonFC | Some people get their kicks breaking the law and laughing that nobody will stop them. | Aug 21 01:19 |
DaemonFC | (Power trip.) | Aug 21 01:19 |
heureka | MinceR: was it BillG? his product was/is Altair Basic | Aug 21 01:19 |
heureka | that's far less harmful than most of what GNU/FSF advertise as software freedom nowadays | Aug 21 01:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 01:20 |
heureka | although BillG still presents his visage for the IBM Wintel11 crap | Aug 21 01:20 |
DaemonFC | Well, whether an implementation of BASIC was Free or Non-Free made very little difference to the user in the days of early home computing. | Aug 21 01:20 |
DaemonFC | It was burned into a firmware ROM that nobody could change. | Aug 21 01:20 |
heureka | altair basic was distributed as paper tape | Aug 21 01:20 |
heureka | initially | Aug 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | So you were programming for the computer. What the computer allowed you to do was make programs using something that couldn't be changed if you wanted to (or if the manufacturer wanted to). | Aug 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | Commodore BASIC was Microsoft's as well. | Aug 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | That's the one I had the most exposure to growing up. | Aug 21 01:21 |
heureka | interesting | Aug 21 01:21 |
heureka | ok | Aug 21 01:21 |
DaemonFC | Commodore modified it under license from Microsoft. | Aug 21 01:23 |
DaemonFC | They actually got a source license with modification rights. | Aug 21 01:23 |
DaemonFC | So there were different revisions of Commodore BASIC in their later models. | Aug 21 01:23 |
DaemonFC | Apparently, the CEO of Commodore was angry with Bill Gates, because Microsoft left a calling card in it. | Aug 21 01:24 |
DaemonFC | If you made a specially crafted program and commanded it to run, it would print out MICROSOFT to the screen. | Aug 21 01:24 |
heureka | seems to be opensource nowadays, don't know what was available in 1980s | Aug 21 01:24 |
heureka | https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC | Aug 21 01:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - microsoft/GW-BASIC: The original source code of Microsoft GW-BASIC from 1983 | Aug 21 01:24 | |
DaemonFC | The CEO was pissed because the system only had 64 K of RAM and it took some lines of code to do this, and it all got loaded into the memory. | Aug 21 01:24 |
heureka | Microsoft BASIC: "All files within this repo are released under the MIT (OSI) License as per the LICENSE file stored in the root of this repo" | Aug 21 01:25 |
heureka | this is the BillG product, and it's opensource and free software | Aug 21 01:26 |
starstreak | "It's like having mission control right on my PC" - Gary Winston (Anti-Trust) | Aug 21 01:32 |
heureka | don't know when these source were first released into public, and there was many other basic interpreter vendors | Aug 21 01:34 |
MinceR | heureka: under gAIDS's leadership, the redmond mafia bullied all PC manufacturers into bundling their alleged computers with MICROS~1's alleged operating systems | Aug 21 01:36 |
MinceR | and often into locking those alleged computers into MICROS~1's alleged operating systems | Aug 21 01:36 |
heureka | MinceR: no doubt | Aug 21 01:37 |
MinceR | they defrauded many individuals and businesses | Aug 21 01:37 |
MinceR | their products turned PCs into spam-sending zombies | Aug 21 01:37 |
heureka | however, the recent MICROS~1 product line isn't a one of BillG, WinNT emerged from DEC (OpenVMS) | Aug 21 01:38 |
heureka | and it's the surrounding political interests close nearby Washington and the Pentagon, who pushed the mentioned agenda | Aug 21 01:38 |
MinceR | Backdoors NT combines the design flaws of ["open"]VMS with the design flaws of Backdoors and DOS | Aug 21 01:38 |
DaemonFC | GW-BASIC is better commented than I figured it would be. | Aug 21 01:39 |
MinceR | there's a single comment in the source code? | Aug 21 01:39 |
starstreak | heureka, the pentagon, of course | Aug 21 01:39 |
DaemonFC | Basically every line tells you what it's doing. | Aug 21 01:39 |
DaemonFC | If anything this is a bit excessive. | Aug 21 01:39 |
heureka | it isn't; comments are easily stripped if desired | Aug 21 01:40 |
DaemonFC | Nice. Microsoft backdated their Code of Conduct file to February 10, 1983. | Aug 21 01:40 |
heureka | i see another problem with BillG's BASIC: "Contains no build scripts, makefiles, or tools required to generate executable binaries, nor does it contain any pre-built binaries / executables" | Aug 21 01:41 |
heureka | reminds me of the Assembler issue i was ranting about recently | Aug 21 01:41 |
MinceR | curious | Aug 21 01:41 |
heureka | and well, yes, basic is implemented in ASM | Aug 21 01:41 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Wouldn't want to be phobic of the transformers. | Aug 21 01:41 |
MinceR | the redmond mafia was notorious for not documenting their code | Aug 21 01:42 |
DaemonFC | Or the decepticons. | Aug 21 01:42 |
DaemonFC | You'd make mjg59_ cross. | Aug 21 01:42 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: i thought it was supposed to be transmissions in english (and transistors in hungarian) | Aug 21 01:45 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, Sorry I'm late. Tranny problems. | Aug 21 01:46 |
DaemonFC | I just had her rebuilt and she's been acting a little strange since then. :/ | Aug 21 01:46 |
starstreak | i was almost offended | Aug 21 01:46 |
starstreak | XD | Aug 21 01:46 |
MinceR | :> | Aug 21 01:46 |
*DaemonFC sends mjg59_ a copy of Twisted Transistor by Korn | Aug 21 01:51 | |
DaemonFC | Hey you! Hey you! Finally you get it! | Aug 21 01:52 |
DaemonFC | The world ain't fair....eat you if you let it! | Aug 21 01:52 |
DaemonFC | ;) | Aug 21 01:52 |
DaemonFC | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=o7uGPWFwg1I | Aug 21 01:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Korn - Twisted Transistor - Invidious | Aug 21 01:53 | |
heureka | i'm still shocked, all free software libc i knew contain much ASM which cannot be digested by an alternative assembler | Aug 21 01:55 |
DaemonFC | The best episode of Better Call Saul was definitely the one where he goaded the members of a golf club to seem antisemitic and then made a huge spectacle of it after he goaded his former boss into nearly punching him and then begged for permission to use the restroom if that would be okay. | Aug 21 01:56 |
DaemonFC | (Which he used to plant cocaine in Howard's locker.) | Aug 21 01:57 |
starstreak | lol | Aug 21 01:57 |
heureka | shocked for several reasons: such as i consider GNU software not suitable for tinier embedded and mission critical systems (it's too complicated software by design for this) | Aug 21 01:57 |
starstreak | better call saul and mr robot are my two favourite shows of all time | Aug 21 01:57 |
DaemonFC | Saul Goodman turned out to be worse than Walter White. | Aug 21 01:57 |
heureka | and even worse, if the complexity is mutual and locks out any real alternative (LLVM and whatever assemblers they got arn't an alternative) | Aug 21 01:58 |
DaemonFC | I definitely didn't see it coming. They left the best parts for the last couple episodes. | Aug 21 01:58 |
starstreak | I didn't like the ending | Aug 21 01:58 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▅▂▁▂▂▁▂▂▃▁▃▅▄▃▄█▁█▂▂▁▁▄▅▁▁▁▅▃▁█▄▅▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 56.76 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▂▁▂▁█▁█▁▁▁▁▇█▄▁██▁▁█▁█▁▂▁▇▇▁██▁ avg(k/sec) 66.46▕ swarm size (avg): 113.06 ⟲ | Aug 21 01:59 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, I started seriously not liking Saul Goodman anymore after the episode where he goaded his own brother into committing suicide. | Aug 21 01:59 |
DaemonFC | And then after Howard I really hated him. | Aug 21 02:00 |
starstreak | I didn't hate him, I was rooting for him lol | Aug 21 02:00 |
DaemonFC | Howard was a jerk but he didn't have that coming. | Aug 21 02:00 |
heureka | do you know any alternative aarch32 "free software" assembler (not GNU gas and not LLVM) which could digest the aarch32 asm inside musl-libc? | Aug 21 02:00 |
heureka | it's just an exemplary case | Aug 21 02:00 |
heureka | and practically relevant too | Aug 21 02:00 |
DaemonFC | Up until that it was kind of funny when Saul was just dropping bowling balls on his car or something, you know? | Aug 21 02:00 |
starstreak | the hookers were the best lol | Aug 21 02:01 |
starstreak | showing up while Howard is having a lunch meeting | Aug 21 02:01 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, everything up to getting murdered, Howard deserved it. | Aug 21 02:01 |
DaemonFC | He had it coming just for how much grief he put Jimmy/Saul through. | Aug 21 02:01 |
starstreak | he didnt kill howard tho | Aug 21 02:01 |
starstreak | wrong place at the wrong time | Aug 21 02:02 |
heureka | or, another question: is it at least feasible to implement an alternative aarch32 assembler which could digest the asm inside musl-libc? | Aug 21 02:02 |
DaemonFC | If Howard hadn't been such a dick to Jimmy, he never would have turned into Saul Goodman. He would have made partner at HHM and he would have probably become a respectable lawyer, even meeting the approval of his brother. | Aug 21 02:02 |
DaemonFC | His brother and Howard did themselves in by tormenting Jimmy and disrespecting him and stopping his career from advancing at HHM. | Aug 21 02:02 |
DaemonFC | They turned him into Saul. | Aug 21 02:03 |
starstreak | i agree with that | Aug 21 02:03 |
starstreak | there was another good one, where he is doing community service and threatens to sue the guy if he cant lay down for a bit | Aug 21 02:03 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, that is how this country works. | Aug 21 02:04 |
DaemonFC | So the guy put down he was doing his hours because he couldn't afford the possibility of having to face an angry pissed off lawyer with nothing better to do than run him into the ground. | Aug 21 02:04 |
starstreak | lol | Aug 21 02:04 |
starstreak | i would love to be a lawyer but i didn't have the cash so i went with the paralegal route | Aug 21 02:05 |
starstreak | almost as powerful as a lawyer | Aug 21 02:05 |
DaemonFC | I've represented myself in legal cases before. | Aug 21 02:05 |
starstreak | paralegals can have clients where im from | Aug 21 02:05 |
DaemonFC | A couple of high stakes civil matters where I just could not afford proper representation. | Aug 21 02:05 |
DaemonFC | I actually fared rather well. | Aug 21 02:06 |
starstreak | i've represented myself in tons of cases for transgender discrimination | Aug 21 02:06 |
DaemonFC | I had to carry our Immigration case while we were between attorneys and had to submit another set of case files, and they were approved. | Aug 21 02:06 |
DaemonFC | I convinced a judge in Indiana to strike down part of the Medicaid law. | Aug 21 02:06 |
DaemonFC | When the state couldn't fix it at the Supreme Court, they repealed it and rewrote that section, and it made several thousand people newly eligible for Medicaid. | Aug 21 02:07 |
DaemonFC | Indiana is really fucked up. They were trying to prevent people from getting Medicaid, by whatever means necessary. | Aug 21 02:08 |
DaemonFC | But found plenty of money to give to IBM to botch the transition of the FSSA into a public-private partnership. | Aug 21 02:09 |
DaemonFC | I think I mentioned this to schestowitz[TR] | Aug 21 02:09 |
heureka | FSSA? | Aug 21 02:09 |
DaemonFC | Family and Social Services Administration | Aug 21 02:09 |
DaemonFC | The Illinois counterpart is called the Department of Human Services. | Aug 21 02:09 |
DaemonFC | You move between states and the names of all of the government agencies changes, including the DMV. | Aug 21 02:10 |
DaemonFC | Some states call the license branch the Department of Motor Vehicles. | Aug 21 02:10 |
DaemonFC | In New Mexico, it's the Motor Vehicle Division. | Aug 21 02:10 |
DaemonFC | In some states (including Illinois and Michigan), it's the Secretary of State. | Aug 21 02:11 |
DaemonFC | In Indiana, it's the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. | Aug 21 02:11 |
DaemonFC | Indiana isn't so violent that their DMV needs its own police force. | Aug 21 02:11 |
DaemonFC | But in Illinois, there are "Secretary of State police officers". | Aug 21 02:12 |
DaemonFC | https://github.com/microsoft/GW-BASIC/blob/master/BIBOOT.ASM | Aug 21 02:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GW-BASIC/BIBOOT.ASM at master · microsoft/GW-BASIC · GitHub | Aug 21 02:15 | |
DaemonFC | Right off, there's a hack to make BASIC work on DOS. | Aug 21 02:15 |
starstreak | https://www.qb64.com | Aug 21 02:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-QB64.com | QB64 is a modern extended BASIC programming language that retains QBasic/QuickBASIC 4.5 compatibility and compiles native binaries for Windows, Linux, and macOS. | Aug 21 02:16 | |
DaemonFC | Okay, I dumped out my gasoline rebate account into a Walmart gift card. | Aug 21 02:16 |
DaemonFC | I'm doing that now so I don't have to dump rebates into PayPal which may end up on a 1099-K going to the IRS. Rebates are not taxable, but it could still create a tax form I don't want. | Aug 21 02:17 |
DaemonFC | So.... | Aug 21 02:17 |
heureka | well, i'm still more curious about the ASM question | Aug 21 02:17 |
heureka | seems for aarch32 there isn't any real alternative assembler implementation, which could digest musl-libc (or any other libc) | Aug 21 02:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 02:20 |
heureka | with i386 bootstrappable.org did hack musl-libc and too i386-tcc assembler, and succeeded; however ia32 is problematic for that many other reasons i am not willing to move there | Aug 21 02:20 |
heureka | in the end, it's a few hundred lines of ASM which crushed the whole idea of a tcc-toolchain (no binutils, no gcc, no llvm) | Aug 21 02:21 |
heureka | hence the question, if it was at least feasible to implement an assembler for this, is the key to understanding anti-competitive vendor-lock and where GNU is positioned | Aug 21 02:22 |
DaemonFC | I'm considering coming up with the documents to apply for tribal citizenship with the Cherokee Nation. | Aug 21 02:23 |
starstreak | DaemonFC, you should do that | Aug 21 02:25 |
heureka | which assembler and hardware would GNU/FSF endorse as "free software"? their x86/64 GNU gas one and vendor-lock into it? | Aug 21 02:26 |
heureka | or, is it possible/desirable to dissect the aarch32 gas implementation and move that over into arm-tcc assembler (it's both GPL)? | Aug 21 02:27 |
heureka | stumbled upon some aarch32 asm inside libffi(required for python) too... i don't know if this is the type of "free software" | Aug 21 02:30 |
heureka | and the design-rationale of tcc seems different to GNU, meaning i may not want to re-implement GNU gas there for the sake of it | Aug 21 02:31 |
DaemonFC | I don't know why Russians get special treatment as "Orcs". | Aug 21 02:33 |
DaemonFC | That description could easily describe any nation of the modern industrialized world. | Aug 21 02:33 |
heureka | even dieatlibc, it's fully loaded with GNU gas... no idea how such a libc could ever be digested reasonably without binutils | Aug 21 02:33 |
heureka | dietlibc | Aug 21 02:34 |
DaemonFC | They reproduce, they sprawl. One person wastes more than they actually use. | Aug 21 02:34 |
DaemonFC | They make war on each other when that's not enough. | Aug 21 02:34 |
DaemonFC | They burn they foul their own nests. | Aug 21 02:34 |
DaemonFC | I mean, it takes a really special kind of stupid to want to live near this kind of pollution. | Aug 21 02:35 |
heureka | "Orcs"? | Aug 21 02:35 |
techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techpol + social irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell-social and #techpol IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-social-200822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-social-200822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-social-200822.txt | Aug 21 02:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell-social and #techpol @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Aug 21 02:38 | |
techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techrights irc ■ Yesterday's #techrights IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-200822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techrights-200822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techrights-200822.txt | Aug 21 02:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Aug 21 02:39 | |
techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 boycottnovell irc ■ Yesterday's #boycottnovell IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-200822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-200822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-200822.txt | Aug 21 02:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #boycottnovell @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Aug 21 02:40 | |
techrights-news | 🅸🆁🅲 techbytes irc ■ Yesterday's #techbytes IRC logs ready. HTML: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200822.html TEXT: http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techbytes-200822.txt GEMINI GemText: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/irc-gmi/irc-log-techbytes-200822.gmi GEMINI Plain Text: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/irc-log-techbytes-200822.txt | Aug 21 02:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ Techrights IRC Network: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Aug 21 02:41 | |
techrights-news | ✩░▒▓▆▅▃▂▁𝐁𝐔𝐋𝐋𝐄𝐓𝐈𝐍▁▂▃▅▆▓▒░✩ Yesterday's bulletin is now ready! 🅷🆃🆃🅿: http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2022-08-20.txt | 🅶🅴🅼🅸🅽🅸 gemini://gemini.techrights.org/tr_text_version/techrights-2022-08-20.txt (tentative address, to work an hour from now) | Aug 21 02:43 |
DaemonFC | <heureka> "Orcs"? | Aug 21 02:43 |
DaemonFC | Like in the Lord of the Rings. | Aug 21 02:43 |
DaemonFC | Disgusting creatures. Used as Sauron's army. | Aug 21 02:44 |
DaemonFC | https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Orcs | Aug 21 02:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lotr.fandom.com | Orcs | The One Wiki to Rule Them All | Fandom | Aug 21 02:45 | |
*Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) | Aug 21 02:54 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▄▅▅▁▂▃▃▁█▁▂▃█▂▁▁▂▄▅▂▃█▁▁▂▃▂▃▁▁▃▃▂▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 101.35 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁▂█▁▂█▇█▁▁▆████▁█▇███▁██▁▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 138.45▕ swarm size (avg): 117.08 ⟲ | Aug 21 02:59 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ Gemini requests since start of month: 178087 total • Total number of pages in capsule: 42218 • Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-08-04 09:15:14 BST; 2 weeks 2 days ago | Aug 21 03:02 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ IPFS local node stats (bandwidth since last reset) calculated. TotalIn: 1.9 GB • TotalOut: 649 MB | Aug 21 03:03 |
starstreak | orcs are also in warcraft | Aug 21 03:04 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ☞ New daily bulletin is now being generated and assembled. | Aug 21 03:04 |
starstreak | https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Orc | Aug 21 03:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wowpedia.fandom.com | Orc - Wowpedia - Your wiki guide to the World of Warcraft | Aug 21 03:04 | |
starstreak | the only thing I miss about having a windows gaming pc is world of warcraft | Aug 21 03:07 |
starstreak | it might work in wine but i don't have a gpu | Aug 21 03:08 |
bnchs | wine's directx to opengl translation surprisingly works well | Aug 21 03:16 |
bnchs | s/directx/direct3d/ | Aug 21 03:16 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 03:20 |
starstreak | i used to play the burning crusade expansion in wine and it ran better than it did in windows | Aug 21 03:32 |
starstreak | but that was a long time ago and the game has had an upgrade in the gfx dept | Aug 21 03:33 |
starstreak | there are private servers that run older versions of wow, i could try those on my intel gpu | Aug 21 03:34 |
DaemonFC | https://libapps.salisbury.edu/nabb-online/exhibits/show/native-americans-then-and-now/introduction/the-white-savior | Aug 21 03:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libapps.salisbury.edu | The White Savior · Native Americans Then and Now · Nabb Research Center Online Exhibits | Aug 21 03:45 | |
DaemonFC | This is an example of what we're up against. The movie was a fictional story. In the story, it showed the tribe being attacked by a much more dangerous and violent tribe, and they were badly outnumbered. | Aug 21 03:46 |
DaemonFC | Kevin Costner saying "Hey, I have a lot of guns." is apparently a "white savior" problem even though it took up like 2-3 minutes of screen time in a 4 hour movie. | Aug 21 03:47 |
DaemonFC | James Cameron basically plagiarized Dances With Wolves, badly, in "Avatar". | Aug 21 03:48 |
heureka | english language is too limited to translate correctly at least | Aug 21 03:48 |
DaemonFC | He sidestepped the idiots screaming "white savior" by making the antagonists "human soldiers" in general and the people that Jake Sully saves "aliens". | Aug 21 03:48 |
heureka | which means, "weise" doesn't translate to a color, it translates to wisdom | Aug 21 03:49 |
DaemonFC | https://libapps.salisbury.edu/nabb-online/exhibits/show/native-americans-then-and-now/introduction/the-white-savior/representation-in-dances-with- | Aug 21 03:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-libapps.salisbury.edu | Representation in Dances with Wolves · Native Americans Then and Now · Nabb Research Center Online Exhibits | Aug 21 03:50 | |
DaemonFC | "The beginning of the film Dances with Wolves affirms the Native American stereotypes that have been running through the foundations of our societies. In the first appearance of Native characters arrive ominous intimidating music loudens, and all the white characters are struck with fear. The Native Americans killed a white settler very brutally and called them savages. This is not an accurate depiction of them." | Aug 21 03:50 |
DaemonFC | Some Native American tribes would strike preemptively against settlers who were poorly armed (maybe some rifles for hunting). | Aug 21 03:51 |
DaemonFC | https://old.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/on4wug/dances_with_wolves_avoids_the_white_savior/ | Aug 21 03:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-old.reddit.com | Dances With Wolves avoids the "white savior" problem because Dunbar does not save the natives, the natives save him : movies | Aug 21 03:55 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], It struck me there's a lot of older movies I've never seen. | Aug 21 03:59 |
DaemonFC | The new ones are complete trash, like the music. | Aug 21 03:59 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▂▃▁▁▂▄▁▅▁▁▂▄▄▁▁▃▁▁▂▁▁█▁▁▁▄▅▃▁▂▄▁ avg(k/sec) 17.96 ▕ IPFS upstream: █▁▃███▃▄▂▁▇▁▁▂██▁███▁█▅▁▂██▁▁██▁▁ avg(k/sec) 124.26▕ swarm size (avg): 113.91 ⟲ | Aug 21 03:59 |
DaemonFC | They're not just utter garbage because they have no production value and limp by on huge budgets....although that is the main problem. | Aug 21 04:00 |
starstreak | music was great in the 00s | Aug 21 04:00 |
DaemonFC | It's like empty calories. | Aug 21 04:00 |
starstreak | its hit or miss after 00s | Aug 21 04:00 |
starstreak | still some good songs come out but nothing that impressive | Aug 21 04:01 |
DaemonFC | The rest of the problem is that people like mjg59_ and the Communist Party of China have creative control over scripts now. | Aug 21 04:01 |
starstreak | can't say i hate new movies tho | Aug 21 04:01 |
heureka | the "loudness war" ruined allmost all music since 00s | Aug 21 04:01 |
DaemonFC | So you can't sit down and write anything a normal person should want to watch. | Aug 21 04:01 |
heureka | there isn't any decent productions anymore | Aug 21 04:01 |
DaemonFC | The newer music is all just noise or someone singing about their vagina in the most vulgar terms. | Aug 21 04:02 |
starstreak | Apple Music killed my love for iOS, I can't put music on my phone anymore, maybe i could with itunes for windows | Aug 21 04:02 |
DaemonFC | It really is all written by the most vile people for the most vile people. I wouldn't say that film has gotten that bad yet, as music, but it's a lot worse than it once was. | Aug 21 04:03 |
starstreak | its supposed to work in rhythmbox but libimobiledevice is catching up | Aug 21 04:03 |
DaemonFC | People today are stupid, and stupid people are crude people, and stupid people are violent people. | Aug 21 04:04 |
starstreak | i have a massive collection of music on another hard drive, probably like 30GB | Aug 21 04:04 |
DaemonFC | When you have crude and violent people, you can only get a court system that's jammed up for the next 5 years and getting worse. | Aug 21 04:04 |
starstreak | i converted all my flac into alac so i could play on the iphone back in the day | Aug 21 04:04 |
DaemonFC | So, like, the law is breaking down. | Aug 21 04:04 |
starstreak | i might convert all my alac to flac now | Aug 21 04:05 |
DaemonFC | Most misdemeanors in Chicago get nolle prosse'd which is lawyer-speak for letting them go "in the interest of justice". | Aug 21 04:05 |
DaemonFC | But really it's because there's so many serious felonies that they no longer have time for misdemeanants and it becomes allocation of resources. | Aug 21 04:05 |
DaemonFC | Like Mr. GULAG's shining city. | Aug 21 04:06 |
heureka | DaemonFC: why are you regularly insulting him? | Aug 21 04:06 |
DaemonFC | Because he's the antichrist. | Aug 21 04:07 |
starstreak | Apple Music: Pay us $10/month so you can put music you already own on your iPhone | Aug 21 04:07 |
DaemonFC | Okay, okay, not quite. But, you know... | Aug 21 04:07 |
DaemonFC | <starstreak> Apple Music: Pay us $10/month so you can put music you already own on your iPhone | Aug 21 04:08 |
DaemonFC | Not worth it. It's basically paying them so they can persistently threaten to remove what you already have if you don't pay them. | Aug 21 04:09 |
DaemonFC | Some things in life, you have to tolerate that, like your mortgage lender or your landlord. | Aug 21 04:09 |
DaemonFC | But not Apple. | Aug 21 04:09 |
starstreak | i wonder if itunes for windows still lets you put music on an iphone | Aug 21 04:09 |
starstreak | they killed itunes on mac | Aug 21 04:09 |
DaemonFC | The dental insurance my spouse has, we pay and we pay. | Aug 21 04:10 |
DaemonFC | And they fight us tooth and nail for every goddamned dollar they have to pay out. | Aug 21 04:10 |
DaemonFC | It's ridiculous. | Aug 21 04:10 |
starstreak | i tried a few music programs on linux and nothing would let me put music on my iphone | Aug 21 04:10 |
DaemonFC | You know, there's a contract we have with them that says under these terms, they are obligated to pay for things that are medically necessary. | Aug 21 04:11 |
DaemonFC | But really what insurance does is they try to stonewall you and openly violate the contract. | Aug 21 04:11 |
DaemonFC | Because they know you're broke and they're part of the reason why and they have lawyers and you don't have lawyers. | Aug 21 04:11 |
DaemonFC | That's how power works in modern societies. | Aug 21 04:12 |
DaemonFC | You know, some days I'd prefer going back to frontier-style justice. | Aug 21 04:12 |
DaemonFC | You knew not to have adulterous relations with someone's wife because the guy would shoot you and walk away and nobody would do anything because you were right and he had it coming. | Aug 21 04:12 |
starstreak | im in Canada, im not legally required to pay for music so im not sure why i would give apple $10/month | Aug 21 04:13 |
DaemonFC | In a system where the consequences are likely to be severe and immediate, people watch themselves. | Aug 21 04:13 |
DaemonFC | A modern justice system is just a different kind of the strong preying on the week. | Aug 21 04:13 |
DaemonFC | *weak | Aug 21 04:13 |
DaemonFC | Whoever has more money is the one the state protects, even if it would never say that. Like why the police won't take our report about my sister-in-law. | Aug 21 04:14 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 04:20 |
starstreak | DaemonFC, have you ever received a diagnosis for autism spectrum disorder? | Aug 21 04:26 |
DaemonFC | One of my psychiatrists said he suspected it. | Aug 21 04:35 |
starstreak | https://www.idrlabs.com/autism-spectrum/test.php | Aug 21 04:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.idrlabs.com | Autism Spectrum Test | Aug 21 04:36 | |
starstreak | DaemonFC, i suspect it too, i got a radar for it | Aug 21 04:37 |
starstreak | walls of text are pretty common for autistics | Aug 21 04:37 |
starstreak | i do the same thing | Aug 21 04:37 |
starstreak | im autistic | Aug 21 04:37 |
DaemonFC | There's more than one thing going on in my head I'm sure. | Aug 21 04:40 |
DaemonFC | They're treating me for bipolar disorder. | Aug 21 04:40 |
DaemonFC | I wonder how people can say this movie is an example of "white savior complex". | Aug 21 04:43 |
DaemonFC | Like, all but two white people in this movie are portrayed as total scum. | Aug 21 04:43 |
starstreak | autism is often misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder | Aug 21 04:45 |
DaemonFC | Liberals: This movie where white people are causing all of the problems is an example of pro-white bias! | Aug 21 04:46 |
starstreak | i just watched 2001 and now im watching 2010 | Aug 21 04:54 |
*CrystalMath has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 21 04:57 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▂▃▃▁▃▁▂▃▂▂▁▁▁▅▂▁▂██▄█▁▂▄▂▁▂▁▄▂▃▅▁ avg(k/sec) 33.26 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁▁▁▁▂▂█▃███▁▂▁▂▃██▂█▂▃▃▁▃▁▁▁▁▇▁▁ avg(k/sec) 65.55▕ swarm size (avg): 118.30 ⟲ | Aug 21 04:59 |
DaemonFC | "On Tuesday, Walmart surprised Wall Street with better-than-expected sales and a 8.4 percent jump in profits as new shoppers turned to it for groceries and other essentials. Same-store sales, a key metric, jumped 6.5 percent. The nation’s largest retailer saw its shares pop more than 5 percent that day, then close out the week 4.3 percent higher." | Aug 21 05:08 |
DaemonFC | Walmart usually does well when the economy is in the shitter and people really need to save a few bucks on things. | Aug 21 05:08 |
DaemonFC | "But Target missed analyst expectations, recording a 90 percent drop in profit as it worked to clear excess inventory." | Aug 21 05:08 |
DaemonFC | Target is basically "expensive Walmart". They also failed to expand as much into groceries. I noticed the floor space devoted to groceries is lower as a percentage. About 40-45% of a Walmart store's square footage is "consumables" compared with 25% or so at Target. | Aug 21 05:09 |
DaemonFC | They also can't get their costs down. Their CEO says this is all temporary, but I predict that Target will be the next KMart. | Aug 21 05:10 |
DaemonFC | They used to be in every town in America and now there's like 6 stores left. | Aug 21 05:10 |
DaemonFC | "Though food and beverage sales surpassed all other categories for Target, Walmart saw bigger gains because of an influx of new customers looking to save a few dollars on food and back-to-school merchandise." | Aug 21 05:11 |
DaemonFC | We've been shopping there all along. I've never had the extra room in the budget to go shopping at a big grocery store unless I was just hitting them up on a sale or something. | Aug 21 05:11 |
DaemonFC | But I'm like, laser focused. I'm not the customer you want to have if you run a store like that. I go in there, buy all of your chicken and freeze it, and you don't make much on me. | Aug 21 05:12 |
DaemonFC | I tend to have some extremely expensive meat shopping trips at the start of a calendar year when grocery is a bonus category. | Aug 21 05:12 |
DaemonFC | I froze enough chicken, steak, ground beef, and pork in the first 3 months of the year that I haven't had to buy any meat since the cashback quarter ended on March 31st. | Aug 21 05:13 |
DaemonFC | And I still have enough to last about 6 months | Aug 21 05:13 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 05:20 |
*ciphrCat has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 05:24 | |
*cybrNaut has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Aug 21 05:25 | |
starstreak | Target failed in Canada | Aug 21 05:28 |
starstreak | i actually liked it | Aug 21 05:28 |
*ciphrCat (~ciphrCat@v75kd7krrqfvs.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 05:29 | |
*cybrNaut (~cybrNaut@freenode-tto.k1n.ssv8hv.IP) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 05:36 | |
phanes | I suppose I should finish my analysis of the Todd v. Lovecruft case and start publishing on it so I can move on to Appelbaum and Stallman. | Aug 21 05:47 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 21 05:48 | |
phanes | She's buried herself in layers of activist sentiment to try to barb up any exposure of her so it'll need to be careful. | Aug 21 05:48 |
phanes | There are gaping holes there, though (no pun intended). | Aug 21 05:50 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 05:52 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▄▁▁▁▄▁▁▁▂█▂▁▂▂▁█▁██▃▁▁█▃▄▂▂▄▇▅▂▁ avg(k/sec) 91.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁█▁▂█▇▁█▂█▁███▁█▁█▇█▁▁▂▂▇█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 101.83▕ swarm size (avg): 110.13 ⟲ | Aug 21 05:59 |
*techrights_guest|24 (~a253e949@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 06:07 | |
*techrights_guest|24 has quit (Quit: Connection closed) | Aug 21 06:08 | |
psydruid | http://www.egr.unlv.edu/~ed/x86.html | Aug 21 06:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.egr.unlv.edu | x86 Assembly Language Programming with Ubuntu | Aug 21 06:13 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 06:20 |
techrights-news | #Techrights Bulletin for Saturday, August 20, 2022 http://techrights.org/txt full archive: http://techrights.org/txt-archives #gnu #linux #freesw #plaintext | Aug 21 06:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Aug 21 06:21 | |
techrights-news | #Techrights full #IPFS index updated just now http://techrights.org/ipfs available as plain text @ http://techrights.org/ipfs/txt #dweb #sharing | Aug 21 06:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Techrights Full IPFS Index | Aug 21 06:21 | |
techrights-news | Re: Anglophone Deficiencies gemini://eph.smol.pub/1660965775 | Aug 21 06:25 |
techrights-news | "Pretty much all except one main character has been introduced, with the pink hair girl being the what I'd describe as the 1st main character (have fun with me describing them by their hair colour/characteristics)." gemini://cyi1341.smol.pub/random15 | Aug 21 06:26 |
techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/sneps/D329.jpg | Aug 21 06:27 |
techrights-news | [cat] gemini://nytpu.com/cheetahs/D680.jpg | Aug 21 06:27 |
*Despatche (~desp@u3xy9z2ifjzci.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 06:28 | |
techrights-news | A Licence is Not a Virus gemini://malinfreeborn.com/gen/viral_licencing.gmi | Aug 21 06:28 |
techrights-news | "...be careful not to fall into a trap of mistaking social media engagement from the actual community-seeking that you need." gemini://degrowther.smol.pub/20220820_social_media | Aug 21 06:29 |
techrights-news | "I've made some more progress on my calendar program (currently called Horus). I've added code to locally calculate the sunrise, sunset, solar noon, dusk, and dawn of a date given a location (longitude and latitude) and timezone." gemini://auragem.space/~krixano/20220820.gmi | Aug 21 06:30 |
techrights-news | Using Microsoft systemd to become a slave of Microsoft gemini://perso.pw/blog/articles/on-demand-minecraft-with-systemd.gmi | Aug 21 06:32 |
techrights-news | Debian Cannot Keep Burying the Inconvenient Facts | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/debian-private-gossip/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/21/debian-private-gossip/ | Aug 21 06:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Debian Cannot Keep Burying the Inconvenient Facts | Techrights | Aug 21 06:43 | |
*KiKi_ (~KiKi@gbgr2jcp6yrt2.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 06:56 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▂▃▂▁▃▃▁▂█▁▁▁▂▂▁█▁▁▂▅█▂▃▁▅▁▁▂▂▃█▂▂▇▁ avg(k/sec) 45.58 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▂▁▁▁▁▁██▃▅▁▂▁██▂▁▁▂█▁▂▁▂▁█▁▁▁▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 80.81▕ swarm size (avg): 103.60 ⟲ | Aug 21 06:59 |
*KiKi__ (~KiKi@km3w6imixyp52.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 07:00 | |
*KiKi__ is now known as KiKi | Aug 21 07:01 | |
*KiKi_ has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 07:02 | |
*KiKi has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 07:02 | |
*KiKi_ (~KiKi@6tng9f7cab9ge.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 07:04 | |
*KiKi_ is now known as KiKi | Aug 21 07:04 | |
*KiKi has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 07:06 | |
*kiki_ (~KiKi@6tng9f7cab9ge.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 07:06 | |
DaemonFC | KMart used to be my dad's favorite place to go kill time at. | Aug 21 07:08 |
techrights-news | Is Lying About the AGPL Considered ’Good for Business’ Now? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/agpl-fud-not-good-for-business/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/21/agpl-fud-not-good-for-business/ | Aug 21 07:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Is Lying About the AGPL Considered ‘Good for Business’ Now? | Techrights | Aug 21 07:08 | |
DaemonFC | There wasn't much to do in my home town. There's never been more than about 6,000 people there. It was just big enough to have a KMart. | Aug 21 07:08 |
*kiki_ is now known as KiKi | Aug 21 07:09 | |
DaemonFC | My dad used to go there with me and walk around window shopping or occasionally buying something. | Aug 21 07:09 |
techrights-news | [Old] "Evaluating DDS, MQTT, and ZeroMQ Under Different IoT Traffic Conditions" ☛ http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~gokhale/WWW/papers/M4IoT2020.pdf | | Aug 21 07:09 |
techrights-news | "To sum up this response post; Martijn has his reasons for leaving and we should all respect those." ☛ https://www.pine64.org/2022/08/18/a-response-to-martijns-blog/ | Source: Pine64 | Aug 21 07:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pine64.org | A response to Martijn’s blog | PINE64 | Aug 21 07:10 | |
DaemonFC | But he was there so often that the woman down the street told my mom (later when her son was one of my friends from school) that she used to think "Oh, that poor man. Something must have happened to his wife and he's raising that child all alone.". | Aug 21 07:10 |
techrights-news | "Any Ghost publication with comments enabled displays a commenting area at the bottom of each post, where members are prompted to start or join the conversation by subscribing or signing in." ☛ https://ghost.org/changelog/native-comments/ | | Aug 21 07:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ghost.org | Comments for Ghost | Aug 21 07:11 | |
techrights-news | "Even without exposing a VoIP service, there is always a trickle of SIP traffic, probing if something is listening." ☛ https://isc.sans.edu/diary/rss/28950 | Source: SANS | Aug 21 07:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-isc.sans.edu | InfoSec Handlers Diary Blog - SANS Internet Storm Center | Aug 21 07:11 | |
techrights-news | "Superconductors are the key to lossless current flow." ☛ https://phys.org/news/2022-08-superconducting-diode-external-magnetic-field.html | Source: Omicron Limited | Aug 21 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-phys.org | A superconducting diode without an external magnetic field | Aug 21 07:12 | |
techrights-news | "In all of the non-nutritive sweetener groups, but in none of the controls" ☛ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22059-calorie-free-sweeteners-affect-microbiome-and-glycemic-response-study.html | Source: Helsinki Times | Aug 21 07:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Empty reply from server ( status 0 @ https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/themes/themes/health-a-wellbeing/22059-calorie-free-sweeteners-affect-microbiome-and-glycemic-response-study.html ) | Aug 21 07:12 | |
techrights-news | "The reality, a new study suggests, is that we simply don’t have a good grip on how games affect our well-being, if at all." ☛ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/08/20/1058328/we-may-never-fully-know-how-video-games-affect-our-well-being/ | Source: MIT Technology Review | Aug 21 07:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.technologyreview.com | We may never fully know how video games affect our well-being | MIT Technology Review | Aug 21 07:13 | |
*betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 07:15 | |
techrights-news | Finland's prime minister takes a drug test after criticism over her partying ⚓ https://text.npr.org/1118538831 ䷉ Source: text | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//text.npr.org/1118538831 | Aug 21 07:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-text.npr.org | Finland's prime minister takes a drug test after criticism over her partying | Aug 21 07:16 | |
*betsy has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 07:17 | |
techrights-news | "I started thinking about screenshots after Jim Hall wrote an article listing GNOME screenshots, GIMP, and Firefox as the ways he often takes screenshots" ☛ https://opensource.com/article/22/8/favorite-screenshot-tool-linux | Source: OpenSource.com | Aug 21 07:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-What's your favorite screenshot tool on Linux? | Opensource.com | Aug 21 07:17 | |
techrights-news | "I have been using Proxmox for a couple months now. Currently, I am hosting multiple Proxmox containers and virtual machines in my Proxmox server" ☛ https://ostechnix.com/move-proxmox-containers-vms-to-different-disk/ | Source: OSTechNix | Aug 21 07:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Move Proxmox Containers And VMs To Different Disk - OSTechNix | Aug 21 07:17 | |
techrights-news | "The ESP32 module found in the IoT Redboard is the ESP32-D0WD-V3 which features a dual-core Xtensa LX6 MCU." ☛ https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfuns-iot-redboard-features-r3-form-factor-and-supports-freertos/ | Source: Linux Gizmos | Aug 21 07:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 520 @ https://linuxgizmos.com/sparkfuns-iot-redboard-features-r3-form-factor-and-supports-freertos/ ) | Aug 21 07:18 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 07:20 |
techrights-news | The Web is not improving; it’s only getting worse over time and people are rightly bitter about it, so we can recommend going back to basics or even defecting to Gemini http://techrights.org/2022/08/20/www-farce/ | Aug 21 07:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Web is Not Open, It’s a Farce | Techrights | Aug 21 07:25 | |
techrights-news | NewsWaffle is taken to the next level; people can stay abreast of news from all around the world (in any language) without leaving their Gemini client http://techrights.org/2022/08/20/news-services-in-gemini/ | Aug 21 07:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | NewsWaffle as a Multi-Lingual GemText News Service With Thousands of Different Sources | Techrights | Aug 21 07:26 | |
techrights-news | In spite of relentless censorship attempts, Debian wrestles with the Streisand Effect as more people find themselves needing to confront uncomfortable communications http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/debian-private-gossip/ | Aug 21 07:26 |
techrights-news | Fear-mongering and FUD tactics are used to oversell or overcharge for use or some particular piece of software; some packagers and maintainers aren’t too happy about this… http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/agpl-fud-not-good-for-business/ | Aug 21 07:26 |
techrights-news | 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (New Entry): Today in Techrights ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Today_in_Techrights.gmi | Aug 21 07:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Today in Techrights | Aug 21 07:26 | |
techrights-news | "Going forward, the video giant will add a watermark icon to YouTube Shorts videos that creators download to share elsewhere, like on TikTok" ☛ https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/youtube-shorts-watermark-videos-tiktok-1235345578/ | Source: Variety | Aug 21 07:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-YouTube Shorts Adds Video Watermark for TikTok, IG Reels Cross-Posting - Variety | Aug 21 07:33 | |
techrights-news | "At first glance their position appears insurmountable. Already dominant, in recent years the firms have been boosted by a covid-induced rise" ☛ https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2022/08/17/can-the-visa-mastercard-duopoly-be-broken | Source: The Economist | Aug 21 07:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Can the Visa-Mastercard duopoly be broken? | The Economist | Aug 21 07:34 | |
techrights-news | UFC Copyright Lawsuit ☛ https://torrentfreak.com/new-ufc-copyright-lawsuit-rejects-fair-use-defense-for-documentary-makers-220820/ | Source: Torrent Freak | Aug 21 07:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New UFC Copyright Lawsuit Rejects Fair Use Defense For Documentary Makers * TorrentFreak | Aug 21 07:35 | |
techrights-news | EFF hypocrisy ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/08/tracking-ubiquitous-within-nonprofits-it-doesnt-have-be | Source: EFF | Aug 21 07:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eff.org | Nonprofit Websites Are Full of Trackers. That Should Change. | Electronic Frontier Foundation | Aug 21 07:35 | |
techrights-news | Is Crypto Really Going To Crash? (Yes) ☛ https://robertreich.org/post/693127450696335360 | Source: Robert Reich | Aug 21 07:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-robertreich.org | Robert Reich (Is Crypto Really Going To Crash? (Yes) Crypto is...) | Aug 21 07:41 | |
techrights-news | "The Paspberry Pi Pico is what you might call the board of the moment, thanks to its combination of affordability, features, and continued availabilit" ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/20/picostepseq-is-small-but-perfectly-formed/ | Source: Hackaday | Aug 21 07:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PicoStepSeq Is Small But Perfectly Formed | Hackaday | Aug 21 07:43 | |
techrights-news | 500 Junk Capacitor ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/20/building-a-spot-welder-from-500-junk-capacitors/ | Source: Hackaday | Aug 21 07:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building A Spot Welder From 500 Junk Capacitors | Hackaday | Aug 21 07:44 | |
techrights-news | Illegal Surveillance of Assange's Visitors ☛ https://truthout.org/articles/mike-pompeo-and-cia-sued-for-illegal-surveillance-of-assanges-visitors/ | Source: TruthOut | Aug 21 07:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-truthout.org | Mike Pompeo and CIA Sued for Illegal Surveillance of Assange's Visitors | Aug 21 07:44 | |
techrights-news | Z80 ☛ https://hackaday.com/2022/08/20/z80-single-board-computer-looks-like-it-could-have-been-a-killer-product/ | Source: Hackaday | Aug 21 07:45 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Z80 Single-Board Computer Looks Like It Could Have Been A Killer Product | Hackaday | Aug 21 07:45 | |
techrights-news | Calls Mount for Release of Saudi Woman Facing 34 Years in Prison Over Tweets ☛ https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/20/calls-mount-release-saudi-woman-facing-34-years-prison-over-tweets | Source: Common Dreams | Aug 21 07:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | Calls Mount for Release of Saudi Woman Facing 34 Years in Prison Over Tweets | Aug 21 07:51 | |
techrights-news | 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (New Entry): What Is a Login Shell in Linux? ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/What_Is_a_Login_Shell_in_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/What_Is_a_Login_Shell_in_Linux.gmi | Aug 21 07:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — What Is a Login Shell in Linux? | Aug 21 07:54 | |
*DaemonFC has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 21 07:55 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▁▄▂▃▂▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▃██▇▁▁▂▁▁▂▄▂▁▂▁▆▁▃▂▁ avg(k/sec) 54.41 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▁▁▁▁▁█▁▁▃▃▁█▅▆▁▁▂▁▁▁▂▁▁▁██▇▂▂▁ avg(k/sec) 66.60▕ swarm size (avg): 96.18 ⟲ | Aug 21 07:59 |
*starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 08:03 | |
techrights-news | According to new ZDNet, SJVN is "BA English and history, cum laude; MA history, magna cum laude; and Ph.D. ABD history, summa cum laude." | Aug 21 08:13 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 08:20 |
techrights-news | Links 21/08/2022: Comments for Ghost (Static Site Generator) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/comments-for-ghost/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/21/comments-for-ghost/ | Aug 21 08:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/08/2022: Comments for Ghost (Static Site Generator) | Techrights | Aug 21 08:25 | |
*ryjen (~ryjen@159.203.7.32) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 08:35 | |
*Helenah has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 08:44 | |
techrights-news | 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (New Entry): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Android_Leftovers.gmi | Aug 21 08:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Android Leftovers | Aug 21 08:49 | |
*Helenah (~s98259@wzs8dse5xhnbw.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 08:53 | |
schestowitz[TR] | nah.. | Aug 21 08:54 |
techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/irc-log-200822/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/21/irc-log-200822/ | Aug 21 08:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 20, 2022 | Techrights | Aug 21 08:56 | |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 08:57 | |
*techuser (~techuser@gvrgv6p9zx2qy.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 08:58 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▃█▁▁▂▁▅▁▁▄▂▁▂▃▄▃▃▃▇▁▅▁▆▃▅▅▆▄▅▆▃█▁ avg(k/sec) 42.01 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁█▁▁█▂▂▁██▁██▁▃▁▁█▂▂▁▁▂▁▁████▁▁ avg(k/sec) 99.15▕ swarm size (avg): 110.05 ⟲ | Aug 21 08:59 |
techrights-news | From Selftests to KUnit - Maíra Canal ⚓ https://mairacanal.github.io/from-selftests-to-KUnit/ ䷉ Source: mairacanal | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mairacanal.github.io/from-selftests-to-KUnit/ | Aug 21 09:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mairacanal.github.io | From Selftests to KUnit - Maíra Canal | Aug 21 09:10 | |
techrights-news | Does the Linux Kernel need software engineering? - Maíra Canal ⚓ https://mairacanal.github.io/does-the-linux-kernel-need-software-engineering/ ䷉ Source: mairacanal | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//mairacanal.github.io/does-the-linux-kernel-need-software-engineering/ | Aug 21 09:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-mairacanal.github.io | Does the Linux Kernel need software engineering? - Maíra Canal | Aug 21 09:10 | |
techrights-news | ➲𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): August ISO refresh - Let’s meet Colorizer ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/August_ISO_refresh_x2d_Let_s_meet_Colorizer.shtml | Aug 21 09:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — August ISO refresh - Let’s meet Colorizer | Aug 21 09:15 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 09:20 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): MariaDB buys geospacial specialist CubeWerx ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/MariaDB_buys_geospacial_specialist_CubeWerx.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/MariaDB_buys_geospacial_specialist_CubeWerx.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 09:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — MariaDB buys geospacial specialist CubeWerx | Aug 21 09:20 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Maíra Canal on Linux Kernel Development ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Maira_Canal_on_Linux_Kernel_Development.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Maira_Canal_on_Linux_Kernel_Development.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 09:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Maíra Canal on Linux Kernel Development | Aug 21 09:30 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Kaisen Linux Rolling 2.2RC1 changelog ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Kaisen_Linux_Rolling_2_2RC1_changelog.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Kaisen_Linux_Rolling_2_2RC1_changelog.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 09:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Kaisen Linux Rolling 2.2RC1 changelog | Aug 21 09:33 | |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 09:34 | |
techrights-news | DRM. Garbage. Use something ELSE. https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-spotify-web-player-not-working/ | Aug 21 09:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | Spotify Web Player Not Working? Here Are the Fixes - Make Tech Easier | Aug 21 09:36 | |
techrights-news | CNS shilling Windows junk again :/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/08/21/making-a-diy-10-1-inch-all-in-one-pc-out-of-amr5-ryzen-5-gaming-mini-pc/ | Aug 21 09:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnx-software.com | Making a DIY 10.1-inch All-in-One PC out of AMR5 Ryzen 5 gaming mini PC - CNX Software | Aug 21 09:39 | |
*techuser (~techuser@wrd7wvf6bu63g.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 09:39 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Crow Translate is an Amazing Open-source Translation App for Linux and Windows ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Crow_Translate_is_an_Amazing_Open_source_Translation_App_for_Li.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Crow_Translate_is_an_Amazing_Open_source_Translation_App_for_Li.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 09:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Crow Translate is an Amazing Open-source Translation App for Linux and Windows | Aug 21 09:40 | |
techrights-news | John Been selling a course in using GNU/Linux https://www.reallinuxuser.com/my-first-course-available-now-zorin-os-linux-for-the-rest-of-us/ | Aug 21 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reallinuxuser.com | My first course, available now: Zorin OS – Linux for the rest of us - Real Linux User | Aug 21 10:11 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Let's Try Gnome Boxes ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Let_s_Try_Gnome_Boxes.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Let_s_Try_Gnome_Boxes.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 10:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Let's Try Gnome Boxes | Aug 21 10:11 | |
techrights-news | "We cover events and user groups that are running in Kosovo. This article forms part of our Linux Around The World series." https://www.linuxlinks.com/linux-kosovo/ | Aug 21 10:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Around The World: Kosovo - LinuxLinks | Aug 21 10:12 | |
*u-amarsh04 has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | Aug 21 10:12 | |
techrights-news | "I was also struck by how one-to-one computing became less about this grassroots movement of these two teachers, and more about what the EdTech companies were promising." https://criticaledtech.com/2022/08/17/techno-scepticism-in-the-classroom-an-interview-with-marie-heath/ | Aug 21 10:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-criticaledtech.com | Techno-scepticism in the classroom (an interview with Marie Heath) – Critical Studies of EDUCATION & TECHNOLOGY | Aug 21 10:14 | |
techrights-news | "My fellow Americans…if I may call you that? I've only been a US citizen for five weeks" https://pluralistic.net/2022/08/16/do-stuff-talk-about-it/#under-a-bushel | Aug 21 10:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pluralistic.net | Pluralistic: 16 Aug 2022 – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow | Aug 21 10:15 | |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 10:17 | |
*techuser (~techuser@h29stqv8ereqe.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 10:17 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 10:20 |
techrights-news | Calling everything "HEY HI" https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/ai-understand-human-goals | Aug 21 10:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-interestingengineering.com | Computer scientists just developed a system for helping AI understand human goals | Aug 21 10:24 | |
techrights-news | Artificial neuron swaps dopamine with rat brain cells like a real one | New Scientist ⚓ https://www.newscientist.com/article/2332554-artificial-neuron-swaps-dopamine-with-rat-brain-cells-like-a-real-one/ ䷉ Source: newscientist | Aug 21 10:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newscientist.com | Artificial neuron swaps dopamine with rat brain cells like a real one | New Scientist | Aug 21 10:24 | |
techrights-news | Rebranding militarism/murder as "HEY HI" https://spectrum.ieee.org/marc-raibert-boston-dynamics-instutute | Aug 21 10:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Q&A: Marc Raibert on the Boston Dynamics AI Institute - IEEE Spectrum | Aug 21 10:25 | |
techrights-news | "I love the robots. Sometimes you find one that's got stuck so you help it and it says 'thank you'." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62007675 | Aug 21 10:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.bbc.co.uk | Are we falling in love with robots? - BBC News | Aug 21 10:26 | |
*u-amarsh04 (~amarsh04@5tcc2vuaj9aks.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 10:29 | |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | Aug 21 10:47 | |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 10:49 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁█▂▁▂▁▃▁█▇█▁▁▂▁▂▁▁▃▃▁▁█▁▂▁█▁▂█▃▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 71.63 ▕ IPFS upstream: ██▁█▇▁▇█▇▇▄▅▁█▁█▁▁▇▂▆█▁▇▁█▁█▁█▃▁ avg(k/sec) 77.11▕ swarm size (avg): 99.25 ⟲ | Aug 21 10:59 |
*kiki_ (~KiKi@acq5qqvgi8e2a.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 11:19 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 11:20 |
*KiKi has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 11:20 | |
*psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 11:21 | |
*kiki_ has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 11:25 | |
*KiKi_ (~KiKi@vayqsuzqttqha.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 11:25 | |
*ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Aug 21 11:47 | |
*ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 11:49 | |
techrights-news | Quantum annealing can beat classical computing in limited cases ⚓ https://discover.lanl.gov/news/0816-quantum-annealing ䷉ Source: discover | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//discover.lanl.gov/news/0816-quantum-annealing | Aug 21 11:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-discover.lanl.gov | | Aug 21 11:49 | |
techrights-news | Stanford and NVIDIA researchers shrink VR headsets to regular glasses https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/stanford-and-nvidia-researchers-shrink-vr-headsets-to-regular-glasses | Aug 21 11:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-interestingengineering.com | Stanford and NVIDIA researchers shrink VR headsets to regular glasses | Aug 21 11:50 | |
techrights-news | Xiaomi Builds a Humanoid Robot for Some Reason https://spectrum.ieee.org/humanoid-robot-xiaomi-cyberone | Aug 21 11:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-spectrum.ieee.org | Xiaomi Builds a Humanoid Robot for Some Reason - IEEE Spectrum | Aug 21 11:50 | |
techrights-news | New network visualization tool maps information spread https://cnets.indiana.edu/blog/2022/07/27/new-network-visualization-tool-maps-information-spread/ | Aug 21 11:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cnets.indiana.edu | New network visualization tool maps information spread | CNetS | Aug 21 11:51 | |
techrights-news | CCNY-based team scripts breakthrough quantum algorithm https://www.ccny.cuny.edu/news/ccny-based-team-scripts-breakthrough-quantum-algorithm | Aug 21 11:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ccny.cuny.edu | CCNY-based team scripts breakthrough quantum algorithm | The City College of New York | Aug 21 11:51 | |
techrights-news | China Breaks Record for Quantum Memory Entanglement Distance https://www.tomshardware.com/news/record-on-quantum-entanglement-at-a-distance-broken-pulling-in-the-timeline-for-a-quantum-internet "Two quantum memories were entangled while 12.5 km apart." | Aug 21 11:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tomshardware.com | China Breaks Record for Quantum Memory Entanglement Distance | Tom's Hardware | Aug 21 11:53 | |
techrights-news | "The device senses and wirelessly transmits signals related to pulse, sweat, and ultraviolet exposure, without bulky chips or batteries." https://news.mit.edu/2022/sensor-electronic-chipless-0818 | Aug 21 11:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.mit.edu | Engineers fabricate a chip-free, wireless electronic “skin” | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology | Aug 21 11:55 | |
techrights-news | "A new device, which doesn’t rely on immunosuppressing drugs, may assist efforts to develop an artificial pancreas to treat diabetes." https://news.mit.edu/2022/design-prevents-buildup-scar-tissue-around-medical-implants-0805 | Aug 21 11:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.mit.edu | Design prevents buildup of scar tissue around medical implants | MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology | Aug 21 11:57 | |
*Despatche has quit (Quit: Read error: Connection reset by deer) | Aug 21 11:58 | |
*ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Aug 21 11:58 | |
techrights-news | "The longer version of this is in How we handle Ubuntu LTS versions." https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/sysadmin/OurSlowServerTurnover | Aug 21 11:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/sysadmin/OurSlowServerTurnover | Aug 21 11:58 | |
*ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 11:59 | |
techrights-news | Disk drive SMART attributes can go backward and otherwise be volatile https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SMARTAttributesVolatile | Aug 21 12:00 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/SMARTAttributesVolatile | Aug 21 12:00 | |
*maxmoon (~5317e9e8@54n9xgft8g6u2.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 12:05 | |
maxmoon | anyone here? | Aug 21 12:05 |
techuser | yes | Aug 21 12:07 |
techuser | don't ask to ask, just ask | Aug 21 12:07 |
*ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Aug 21 12:12 | |
*ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 12:17 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 12:20 |
maxmoon | I was watching the video on https://techrights.org/2022/01/08/gemini-and-gopher-compared/ and in the end there is a complain about Facebook & Co. but no explanation why it is bad? Like why is it bad that people (Zuckers) upload selfies of themselves to Facebook? | Aug 21 12:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gopher and Gemini Can Co-exist, They’re Not the Same | Techrights | Aug 21 12:22 | |
*ohama has quit (Ping timeout: 120 seconds) | Aug 21 12:27 | |
techrights-news | Bootstrapping An {ojs} Quarto Document With An Observable Notebook | R-bloggers ⚓ https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/bootstrapping-an-ojs-quarto-document-with-an-observable-notebook/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/bootstrapping-an-ojs-quarto-document-with-an-observable-notebook/ | Aug 21 12:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Bootstrapping An {ojs} Quarto Document With An Observable Notebook | R-bloggers | Aug 21 12:28 | |
techrights-news | "Data science is described as a “dying field” that will soon be supplanted by positions like data engineering and ML operations in some articles, while it is described as being replaced by tools like AutoML in others." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/is-data-science-a-dying-profession/ | Aug 21 12:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Is Data Science a Dying Profession? | R-bloggers | Aug 21 12:29 | |
*CrystalMath (~coderain@z929m3dpy9kia.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 12:30 | |
techrights-news | The Image Model | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers ⚓ https://www.sicpers.info/2022/08/the-image-model/ ䷉ Source: SICP | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.sicpers.info/2022/08/the-image-model/ | Aug 21 12:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.sicpers.info | The Image Model | Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programmers | Aug 21 12:30 | |
techrights-news | More disposable garbage: Matter is almost here, so should you upgrade devices now or later? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis ⚓ https://staceyoniot.com/matter-is-almost-here-so-should-you-upgrade-devices-now-or-later/ ䷉ Source: Stacey on IoT | Aug 21 12:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | Matter is almost here, so should you upgrade devices now or later? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis | Aug 21 12:31 | |
techrights-news | "service that literally ships shit with a public promise of multiple kinds of animal shit whilst data that proves only horse shit was ever shipped, a promise of 100% anonymity whilst the data set clearly shows both shit-senders and shit-receivers" https://www.troyhunt.com/weekly-update-309/ | Aug 21 12:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.troyhunt.com | Troy Hunt: Weekly Update 309 | Aug 21 12:34 | |
techrights-news | "That we travel more slowly, which is to say more humanely, and which will enable us to cut down on the greenhouse gas per unit of distance." ⚓ https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/08/16/Slow-travel ䷉ Source: Tim Bray | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/08/16/Slow-travel | Aug 21 12:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tbray.org | ongoing by Tim Bray · Slow Travel | Aug 21 12:35 | |
techrights-news | "When we use it, it depletes a bit. When we’re distracted it quickly drains. And when we’re alone with our thoughts it replenishes." ⚓ https://danielmiessler.com/blog/creativity-comes-from-idleness/ ䷉ Source: Daniel Miessler | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//danielmiessler.com/blog/creativity-comes-from-idleness/ | Aug 21 12:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielmiessler.com | Creativity Comes from Idleness - Daniel Miessler | Aug 21 12:36 | |
techrights-news | The names of disk drive SMART attributes are kind of made up (sadly) ⚓ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SMARTAttributeNamesMadeUp ䷉ Source: uni Toronto | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/SMARTAttributeNamesMadeUp | Aug 21 12:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/tech/SMARTAttributeNamesMadeUp | Aug 21 12:37 | |
*ohama (ohama@freenode-0df.kav.vc6dkt.IP) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 12:38 | |
techrights-news | "What if everyone — individuals, companies, etc., — surfaced their outbound links in an open, accessible way which could then be aggregated in one source for querying?" ⚓ https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/well-known-links-resource/ ䷉ Source: Jim Nielsen | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/well-known-links-resource/ | Aug 21 12:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | A Well-Known Links Resource - Jim Nielsen’s Blog | Aug 21 12:39 | |
techrights-news | The Australian Commodore 64 - LinuxJedi’s /dev/null ⚓ https://linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/08/19/the-australian-commodore-64/ ䷉ Source: Andrew Hutchings | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//linuxjedi.co.uk/2022/08/19/the-australian-commodore-64/ | Aug 21 12:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxjedi.co.uk | The Australian Commodore 64 – LinuxJedi's /dev/null | Aug 21 12:40 | |
techrights-news | "Last week, however, we received a Flutter application where the script wouldn’t work anymore." ⚓ https://blog.nviso.eu/2022/08/18/intercept-flutter-traffic-on-ios-and-android-http-https-dio-pinning/ ䷉ Source: NVISO Labs | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.nviso.eu/2022/08/18/intercept-flutter-traffic-on-ios-and-android-http-https-dio-pinning/ | Aug 21 12:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.nviso.eu | Intercept Flutter traffic on iOS and Android (HTTP/HTTPS/Dio Pinning) – NVISO Labs | Aug 21 12:41 | |
techrights-news | "JavaScript’s “double equals” operator, ==, is typically discouraged." ⚓ https://evanhahn.com/re-implementing-javascript-double-equals-in-javascript/ ䷉ Source: Evan Hahn | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//evanhahn.com/re-implementing-javascript-double-equals-in-javascript/ | Aug 21 12:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-evanhahn.com | Re-implementing JavaScript's == in JavaScript | Aug 21 12:42 | |
techrights-news | Use Node built-ins to test small projects ⚓ https://evanhahn.com/use-node-builtins-to-test-small-projects/ ䷉ Source: Evan Hahn | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//evanhahn.com/use-node-builtins-to-test-small-projects/ | Aug 21 12:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-evanhahn.com | Use Node built-ins to test small projects | Aug 21 12:43 | |
techrights-news | "Go is under more or less continuous development (although the pace and nature of changes is different near releases)." ⚓ https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoDevelopmentTipResources ䷉ Source: uni Toronto | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/programming/GoDevelopmentTipResources | Aug 21 12:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-utcc.utoronto.ca | Chris's Wiki :: blog/programming/GoDevelopmentTipResources | Aug 21 12:44 | |
techrights-news | r300: merge ALU instructions writing different channels of the same destination using the constant swizzles (!17560) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab ⚓ https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/17560 | Aug 21 12:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-gitlab.freedesktop.org | r300: merge ALU instructions writing different channels of the same destination using the constant swizzles (!17560) · Merge requests · Mesa / mesa · GitLab | Aug 21 12:51 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Cloud Hypervisor v26.0 Released! ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Cloud_Hypervisor_v26_0_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Cloud_Hypervisor_v26_0_Released.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 12:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Cloud Hypervisor v26.0 Released! | Aug 21 12:55 | |
techrights-news | Somehow my email in emacs/wl shows right justified. Seems like some emails are detected as RTL language for some reason. Now how do I configure this..." https://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2022-Aug-21.html.en ䷉ ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2022-Aug-21.html.en | Aug 21 12:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | Somehow my email in emacs/wl shows right justified. | Aug 21 12:56 | |
MinceR | 21 033308 < DaemonFC> I don't know why Russians get special treatment as "Orcs". | Aug 21 12:58 |
MinceR | let's see | Aug 21 12:58 |
MinceR | they engage in nuclear terrorism | Aug 21 12:58 |
MinceR | they send untrained, unclothed, unequipped rabble to fight without telling them whom they're fighting | Aug 21 12:59 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▅▄▅▂█▃▁█▁▂▅▄▂▁▁▁▁▁▂▃▆▃▁▂▁▅▅▂▃█▂▁ avg(k/sec) 63.90 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▂▁██▁█▁██▁▁██▁█▁▇█▂▁███▁▁▂▁▁█▁▁ avg(k/sec) 104.08▕ swarm size (avg): 109.28 ⟲ | Aug 21 12:59 |
MinceR | they use chechens to fight for them, who are even more barbaric | Aug 21 12:59 |
MinceR | they execute genocides | Aug 21 12:59 |
MinceR | they beat down the hungarian revolution of 1848 | Aug 21 13:00 |
MinceR | they occupied the eastern bloc and turned it into a bunch of stalinist dictatorships and crippled the minds of most people there | Aug 21 13:00 |
MinceR | then their empire fell apart because of marxist economy | Aug 21 13:00 |
MinceR | after recovering, the first thing they wanted to do was to reoccupy the same empire | Aug 21 13:01 |
MinceR | they're barbaric, evil, destructive, genocidal, terrorist scum that make the rest of humanity look good in comparison | Aug 21 13:01 |
schestowitz[TR] | why "orc"? | Aug 21 13:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | >> bunch of stalinist dictatorships and crippled the minds of most people there | Aug 21 13:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | they did the same domestically | Aug 21 13:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | but I think that's more to do with | Aug 21 13:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | them driving away people with a clue | Aug 21 13:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | and then, among those who remain, there's no infra to develop | Aug 21 13:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | so they dry up the productive element | Aug 21 13:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | and then make whatever stays even less productive | Aug 21 13:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | the "Death spiral" | Aug 21 13:06 |
MinceR | https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-ukrainians-calling-russian-invaders-orcs- | Aug 21 13:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.spectator.co.uk | Why are Ukrainians calling Russian invaders 'orcs'? | The Spectator | Aug 21 13:06 | |
MinceR | yes, driving away people who have a clue is one of the effects of marxist economics | Aug 21 13:07 |
MinceR | also of dictatorships in general | Aug 21 13:07 |
maxmoon | okay, this might be a too weird place to have a serious conversation. Bye... | Aug 21 13:07 |
schestowitz[TR] | it's off topic | Aug 21 13:08 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 13:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's howtos | Aug 21 13:08 | |
techrights-news | A guide to swiftly managing your Kubernetes resources using K9s - Earthly Blog ⚓ https://earthly.dev/blog/managing-k8s-with-k9s/ ䷉ Source: Earthly | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//earthly.dev/blog/managing-k8s-with-k9s/ | Aug 21 13:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-earthly.dev | A guide to swiftly managing your Kubernetes resources using K9s - Earthly Blog | Aug 21 13:10 | |
techrights-news | Re: “The web is a harsh manager” - Jim Nielsen’s Blog ⚓ https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/re-web-harsh-manager/ ䷉ Source: Jim Nielsen | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/re-web-harsh-manager/ | Aug 21 13:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | Re: “The web is a harsh manager” - Jim Nielsen’s Blog | Aug 21 13:12 | |
MinceR | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/08/12/we-had-no-moral-right-to-attack-another-country | Aug 21 13:13 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Aug 21 13:13 | |
psydroid2 | you haven't even brought up a topic to have a serious conversation about nor engaged in any | Aug 21 13:14 |
psydroid2 | so bye from all of us to you, I suppose | Aug 21 13:14 |
techuser | bye = kick/ban? | Aug 21 13:15 |
MinceR | "bye" = "i'm looking for the quit command in my irc client" | Aug 21 13:15 |
psydroid2 | "bye" = "my feeble mind can't handle anything out of my comfort zone, so I must excuse myself and go and cry in the corner" | Aug 21 13:16 |
schestowitz[TR] | red hat did this to me | Aug 21 13:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | but worse | Aug 21 13:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | it tried to do collective quit | Aug 21 13:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | if I say something they don't like | Aug 21 13:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | or one person does not like | Aug 21 13:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | they will incite the whole lot gainst ,me | Aug 21 13:17 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): I love my GPD Micro PC ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/I_love_my_GPD_Micro_PC.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/I_love_my_GPD_Micro_PC.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 13:18 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — I love my GPD Micro PC | Aug 21 13:18 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 13:20 |
techrights-news | C parser gemini://tozip.chickenkiller.com/2022-08-21-c-parser.gmi "Antimony describes itself as "a bullshit-free (©) programming language that gets out of your way"." | Aug 21 13:30 |
*darwin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 21 13:31 | |
techrights-news | Migrating Neovim config to Lua gemini://blog.schmidhuberj.de/2022/08/21/migrating-neovim-config-to-lua/ "While I was at it, I also split up my config into many smaller files" | Aug 21 13:31 |
techrights-news | "I can relate 100% with them. I'm like a squirrel chasing new nuts every 5 seconds, almost as if the nuts I catch rot by the touch. It's completely irrational to take on so many things simultaneously, and yet, here we are." gemini://siiky.srht.site/kB45oC/re-brain_fart.gmi | Aug 21 13:33 |
techrights-news | "I just modified my gmi->md script to rewrite gemini:// links to the Gemini Portal. With only 8 new (readable) lines the HTTPS/HTML version of the capsule became that much user friendlier" gemini://siiky.srht.site/meta/portal.gmi | Aug 21 13:34 |
*KiKi_ has quit (Quit) | Aug 21 13:45 | |
techrights-news | Very disappointing that Debian lacks bearssl in the repo and gmni too. Alpine is better than Debian in this regard. I cannot even compile it. | Aug 21 13:48 |
schestowitz[TR] | gmni -j always gemini://news.tuxmachines.org/ | head -n 1 | Aug 21 13:49 |
techrights-news | Tradeoffs in API Design ⚓ https://matt-rickard.com/tradeoffs-in-api-design ䷉ Source: Matt Rickard | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//matt-rickard.com/tradeoffs-in-api-design | Aug 21 13:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-matt-rickard.com | Tradeoffs in API Design | Aug 21 13:52 | |
techrights-news | "Earlier this week I watched Alex Chan's Sans I/O programming talk. In the talk, Alex argues the importance of separating I/O and program logic, with reference to a situation where his team was unable to use already-available parsing libraries for BagIt data because said libraries depended on local access to a file." https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/05/io-and-logic/ | Aug 21 13:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Failed connect to jamesg.blog:443; Connection refused ( status 0 @ https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/05/io-and-logic/ ) | Aug 21 13:53 | |
techrights-news | "The most common approach to finding ways to improve a static analysis tool is to find bugs in code that the tool should have been able to find" ⚓ https://blog.trailofbits.com/2022/08/17/using-mutants-to-improve-slither/ ䷉ Source: Trail Of Bits | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.trailofbits.com/2022/08/17/using-mutants-to-improve-slither/ | Aug 21 13:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.trailofbits.com | Using mutants to improve Slither | Trail of Bits Blog | Aug 21 13:54 | |
techrights-news | "Not obvious development process is hard to document. I wanted to make changes to the nix program, but I didn't know how to try them." ⚓ https://dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-08-19-hacking-on-nix.html ䷉ Source: Data Swamp | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//dataswamp.org/~solene/2022-08-19-hacking-on-nix.html | Aug 21 13:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dataswamp.org | Solene'% : How to hack on Nix and try your changes | Aug 21 13:55 | |
techrights-news | "“Collapse occurs, and can only occur, in a power vacuum,” anthropologist Joseph Tainter writes in The Collapse of Complex Societies." https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/we-are-not-the-first-civilization | Aug 21 13:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-chrishedges.substack.com | We Are Not the First Civilization to Collapse, But We Will Probably Be the Last | Aug 21 13:57 | |
techrights-news | "The number of people affected by hunger globally rose to as many as 828 million in 2021, an increase of about 46 million since 2020 and 150 million since the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic (1), according to a United Nations report" https://www.who.int/news/item/06-07-2022-un-report--global-hunger-numbers-rose-to-as-many-as-828-million-in-2021 | Aug 21 13:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.who.int | UN Report: Global hunger numbers rose to as many as 828 million in 2021 | Aug 21 13:58 | |
techrights-news | "He talks about how Tim Berners-Lee had a Next computer, but the Next computer was a machine that cost thousands of dollars and not everyone had thousands of dollars to spend on a computer (then or now, really)." ⚓ https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/web-diversity/ ䷉ Source: Jim Nielsen | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.jim-nielsen.com/2022/web-diversity/ | Aug 21 13:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.jim-nielsen.com | The Web’s Diversity - Jim Nielsen’s Blog | Aug 21 13:59 | |
MinceR | (nsfw) https://www.oglaf.com/introduced-species/ | Aug 21 14:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | Introduced Species | Aug 21 14:07 | |
*maxmoon has quit (Quit: Connection closed) | Aug 21 14:15 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 14:20 |
psydroid2 | bye from earth to max on the moon | Aug 21 14:28 |
MinceR | took them over an hour to quit | Aug 21 14:29 |
MinceR | not the brightest bulb in the bucket | Aug 21 14:29 |
psydroid2 | quitting is hard | Aug 21 14:29 |
techrights-news | "My lifelong activism aimed at achieving social justice." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/a-new-approach-to-fairness-in-machine-learning/ | Aug 21 14:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A New Approach to Fairness in Machine Learning | R-bloggers | Aug 21 14:30 | |
schestowitz[TR] | maybe it's activelow? | Aug 21 14:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | putin's fan? | Aug 21 14:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | https://www.google.com/search?q=maxmoon+site%3Atechrights.org&ei=0wcCY-XOFOGGhbIP9NW5sAE&ved=0ahUKEwilhKLf29f5AhVhQ0EAHfRqDhYQ4dUDCA4&uact=5&oq=maxmoon+site%3Atechrights.org&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BwghEKABEAo6CwguEIAEEMcBEK8BOgUIABCABDoGCAAQHhAWOgUIIRCgAToICCEQHhAWEB1KBAhBGABKBAhGGABQAFjaLWC0L2gAcAF4AIABjwGIAboPkgEEMTUuN5gBAKABAqABAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz | Aug 21 14:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-maxmoon site:techrights.org - Google Search | Aug 21 14:32 | |
schestowitz[TR] | no history in irc | Aug 21 14:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | "Max Moon Retweeted Dr. Roy Schestowitz" | Aug 21 14:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | 2017 | Aug 21 14:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/irc-log-techbytes-10092017.html#tSep%2014%2014:47:16 | Aug 21 14:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techbytes @ FreeNode: September 10th, 2017 – September 16th, 2017 | Aug 21 14:33 | |
techrights-news | "R Consortium recently talked to Allan Miller with the East Bay R Language Enthusiasts Group about the group’s history and success in environmental and health industries." https://www.r-bloggers.com/2022/08/from-novice-to-industry-professionals-the-east-bay-r-enthusiasts-welcomes-everyone/ | Aug 21 14:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-From Novice to Industry Professionals, the East Bay R Enthusiasts Welcomes Everyone | R-bloggers | Aug 21 14:36 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▃▁▂▁▂▂▃█▅▂▂▃▄▃▄▂▂▅▆▄▅▂▄▅▁▁▁▁▂▁▄▁▁▂▁▁ avg(k/sec) 14.45 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▁▁▁▁▇█▁▂▁█▁▁███▂█▁▂▁▁██▆▇██▁███▁▁ avg(k/sec) 145.58▕ swarm size (avg): 109.36 ⟲ | Aug 21 14:59 |
*betsy (~igloo@d9tvs44uyg5y6.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 15:10 | |
*betsy has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 15:12 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 15:20 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 15:26 | |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | Aug 21 15:28 | |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@a9k4we53x83yu.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 15:30 | |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 15:30 | |
techrights-news | Manjaro and EndeavourOS are like Ding Dongs and Zingers - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=p5FU5m_THGU | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/p5FU5m_THGU | Aug 21 15:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Manjaro and EndeavourOS are like Ding Dongs and Zingers - Invidious | Aug 21 15:47 | |
techrights-news | 210: GNOME, KDE, LibreOffice, Android 13, DEF CON, Krita, Spider-Man and more Linux news! https://tuxdigital.com/podcasts/this-week-in-linux/twil-210/ | Aug 21 15:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-210: GNOME, KDE, LibreOffice, Android 13, DEF CON, Krita, Spider-Man and more Linux news! - This Week in Linux - TuxDigital | Aug 21 15:48 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, DistroTube, and GNU World Order ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Videos_Shows_This_Week_in_Linux_DistroTube_and_GNU_World_Order.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Videos_Shows_This_Week_in_Linux_DistroTube_and_GNU_World_Order.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 15:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Videos/Shows: This Week in Linux, DistroTube, and GNU World Order | Aug 21 15:53 | |
techrights-news | I have complicated feelings about TDD • Buttondown ⚓ https://buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/i-have-complicated-feelings-about-tdd-8403/ ䷉ Source: Buttondown | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//buttondown.email/hillelwayne/archive/i-have-complicated-feelings-about-tdd-8403/ | Aug 21 15:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-buttondown.email | I have complicated feelings about TDD • Buttondown | Aug 21 15:54 | |
techrights-news | "I’ve shown my husband and my child how I can see everything that they ask Alexa in the app, something few people might realize that Alexa shares with the app owner." https://staceyoniot.com/can-the-ftc-restore-our-faith-in-technology/ | Aug 21 15:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-staceyoniot.com | Can the FTC restore our faith in technology? - Stacey on IoT | Internet of Things news and analysis | Aug 21 15:57 | |
techrights-news | "Australia prides itself on freedom of expression, yet we have the most draconian laws in the Western world. How can we uphold a free press when defamation law is having a chilling effect on our media and threatens to undermine the very foundations of investigative journalism?" https://michaelwest.com.au/so-sue-me-canberra-writers-festival/ | Aug 21 15:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | So, Sue Me! @Canberra Writers Festival - Michael West | Aug 21 15:58 | |
techrights-news | 1966 Children about future - neritam ⚓ https://neritam.wordpress.com/2022/08/17/1966-children-about-future/ ䷉ Source: Neritam | Aug 21 15:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-neritam.wordpress.com | 1966 Children about future – neritam | Aug 21 15:58 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): BTW, You Should Use Arch. And why you should consider using Linux… ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/BTW_You_Should_Use_Arch_And_why_you_should_consider_using_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/BTW_You_Should_Use_Arch_And_why_you_should_consider_using_Linux.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 16:09 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — BTW, You Should Use Arch. And why you should consider using Linux… | Aug 21 16:09 | |
schestowitz[TR] | starstreak/britney (offline) ^ | Aug 21 16:10 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): risiOS Review: A Friendly Fedora Spin with Distinctive Features ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/risiOS_Review_A_Friendly_Fedora_Spin_with_Distinctive_Features.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/risiOS_Review_A_Friendly_Fedora_Spin_with_Distinctive_Features.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 16:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — risiOS Review: A Friendly Fedora Spin with Distinctive Features | Aug 21 16:14 | |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: activelow is not a whiney type. | Aug 21 16:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | he is | Aug 21 16:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | he said "ENOUGH!" | Aug 21 16:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | and then left | Aug 21 16:14 |
XRevan86 | Besides, heurekа is still here. | Aug 21 16:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | because we insulted the nazis | Aug 21 16:14 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: That at least has a flair for the dramatic :) | Aug 21 16:15 |
techrights-news | "Large tech and finance companies have been doing this lately: 1. Announcing workers must return to the office full time, or face dismissal. 2. Reporting a loss, or lower than expected profits, and will need to cut staff. If only they had a convenient excuse. 3. (Bonus): Complaining about staff retention." https://rubenerd.com/wfh-being-used-to-dismiss-staff/ | Aug 21 16:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: WFH being used to dismiss staff | Aug 21 16:17 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 16:20 |
techrights-news | How the HECK can theguardian publish this while BAGGING BRIBES FROM BILL GATES to tell us to worship that Famous Criminal??? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/24/britain-rich-poor-strike-breaking-government-grenfell-tower | Aug 21 16:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Worship the rich, neglect the poor? Adam Smith’s words still capture how power works | Kenan Malik | The Guardian | Aug 21 16:20 | |
techrights-news | "I made the decision to visit DEFCON this year with some friends, which turned out to be an absolute blast. Here are some pictures of cool stuff that we took during our time there." ⚓ https://blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/dc30/ ䷉ Source: Adriaan Zhang | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//blog.bithole.dev/blogposts/dc30/ | Aug 21 16:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blog.bithole.dev | DEFCON Photo Dump | Aug 21 16:21 | |
techrights-news | Rubenerd: Former Australian Prime Minister Morrison’s secret portfolios ⚓ https://rubenerd.com/former-australian-prime-minister-morrisons-secret-portfolios/ ䷉ Source: Ruben Schade | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//rubenerd.com/former-australian-prime-minister-morrisons-secret-portfolios/ | Aug 21 16:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: Former Australian Prime Minister Morrison’s secret portfolios | Aug 21 16:22 | |
techrights-news | GUINQSH Wordo: YAWPS gemini://tilde.cafe/~spellbinding/gemlog/2022-08-21.gmi | Aug 21 16:23 |
techrights-news | "I am excited that these commands exist. All this time, I have been holding down arrow keys to navigate on the command line. I wonder what other shortcuts the terminal has that I can use!" https://jamesg.blog/2022/08/17/terminal-shortcuts/ | Aug 21 16:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jamesg.blog | TIL: Terminal shortcuts | James' Coffee Blog | Aug 21 16:26 | |
techrights-news | "If you open a plain HTML document with no CSS and you focus an interactive element like a button, link, or textarea, you’ll see that by default browsers use the outline property to highlight these elements." ⚓ https://www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/focus-outline/ ䷉ Source: Manuel Matuzovic | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.matuzo.at/blog/2022/focus-outline/ | Aug 21 16:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.matuzo.at | outline is your friend - Manuel Matuzović | Aug 21 16:28 | |
XRevan86 | https://themoscowtimes.com/2022/08/21/a78619 | Aug 21 16:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Operation timed out after 10000 milliseconds with 0 out of 0 bytes received ( status 0 @ https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/08/21/a78619 ) | Aug 21 16:49 | |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 16:49 | |
XRevan86 | "Car Bomb Kills Daughter of Kremlin Hardline Ideologue" | Aug 21 16:50 |
MinceR | better try again and kill the father too | Aug 21 16:51 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: That was clearly the target. | Aug 21 16:51 |
XRevan86 | https://eurointegration.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/21/7145314/ "Deutsche Welle Responded to Accusations of Ukrainian MFA and Asked Not to Compare Them with RT Anymore" | Aug 21 16:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.eurointegration.com.ua | NO TITLE | Aug 21 16:51 | |
XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/MelaniePodolyak/status/1561358623464427522 hah | Aug 21 16:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Melaniya Podolyak (@MelaniePodolyak): "I get a lot of dissatisfied comments and bad feedback as I often criticize the collective West for knowing too little about Russia and Ukraine. I’m sorry, but how can anyone doubt my criticism, when the largest Western media calls this insane fascist “an influential writer”?"|nitter.it | Aug 21 16:53 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: But who would want to kill an influential writer? :) | Aug 21 16:53 |
techrights-news | Bluestar 5.19.2 is out https://sourceforge.net/projects/bluestarlinux/ | Aug 21 16:54 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-BluestarLinux download | SourceForge.net | Aug 21 16:54 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu May Drop ’To Do’ App from Default Install ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Ubuntu_May_Drop_To_Do_App_from_Default_Install.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Ubuntu_May_Drop_To_Do_App_from_Default_Install.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 16:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Ubuntu May Drop ’To Do’ App from Default Install | Aug 21 16:58 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▅▃▂▂▂▃▁▁▂▃▃▄▁▂▃▁▄▅▅▃▂▁▄▁▂▂▃▁▁▁▃▂▃▁▂▁ avg(k/sec) 25.30 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁▁▁████▂█▁▂▄▁█▁▁▂▁▄▇▁▃█▅▆▁▂▇▂▁██▂▁ avg(k/sec) 112.21▕ swarm size (avg): 103.96 ⟲ | Aug 21 16:59 |
MinceR | XRevan86: hopefully many people would | Aug 21 17:01 |
MinceR | https://www.oglaf.com/collider/ | Aug 21 17:03 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.oglaf.com | Collider | Aug 21 17:03 | |
XRevan86 | https://pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/21/7364186/ Surprising no one. | Aug 21 17:04 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pravda.com.ua | ''Kyiv will shudder'': Russian propagandists demand strikes on decision-making centres | Ukrainska Pravda | Aug 21 17:04 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: if this was america, those strikes would have finished off all the decision making centers on day 10 | Aug 21 17:06 |
XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/tsargradtv/status/1561288015770787841 "After the murder of Daria Platonova, our duty is to destroy the weapon of evil. Destroy Ukraine as a terrorist state. We cannot exist on the same land with Ukraine. It is impossible to co-exist with infernal evil." | Aug 21 17:06 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Телеканал Царьград (@tsargradtv): "После убийства Дарьи Платоновой наш долг – уничтожить орудие зла. Уничтожить Украину как террористическое государство. Мы с Украиной на одной земле существовать не можем. Нельзя сосуществовать с инфернальным зло | Aug 21 17:06 | |
CrystalMath | and every single bridge would have been destroyed, like they did here | Aug 21 17:06 |
CrystalMath | if you can compare different acts of interventionism, then you still come to the conclusion that russia is too merciful | Aug 21 17:07 |
XRevan86 | No one knows who did the deed yet but TsargradTV and others are ready to destroy Ukraine already. | Aug 21 17:07 |
MinceR | presumably they were ready for years | Aug 21 17:08 |
XRevan86 | "and every single bridge would have been destroyed, like they did here" <- Erm, Russia and Ukraine destroy bridges systemically. | Aug 21 17:08 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: america is way faster at bridge destruction | Aug 21 17:08 |
CrystalMath | on average | Aug 21 17:08 |
CrystalMath | they also destroy civilian bridges in areas unrelated to their invasion | Aug 21 17:08 |
MinceR | "merciful" according to CrystalMath: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucha_massacre | Aug 21 17:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Bucha massacre - Wikipedia | Aug 21 17:08 | |
CrystalMath | which russia has not done, all the bridges in Lvov still stand | Aug 21 17:09 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Erm, there were no battles in Lviv. | Aug 21 17:09 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 17:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Programming Leftovers" | Aug 21 17:10 | |
XRevan86 | The war never reached that far west sans several missile strikes. | Aug 21 17:10 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: america would have shot civilian targets with cruise missiles, like they did here | Aug 21 17:10 |
CrystalMath | like police stations in towns far away from the conflict | Aug 21 17:10 |
MinceR | BridgeLivesMatter | Aug 21 17:10 |
CrystalMath | 2,000 civilians were injured and 500 died in yugoslavia, all people who had nothing to do with the conflict | Aug 21 17:11 |
CrystalMath | and who lived very far from it | Aug 21 17:11 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Funny ye say that, I've learnt a lot about Russian cruise missiles lately. | Aug 21 17:11 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/today_s_leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/today_s_leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 17:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — today's leftovers | Aug 21 17:11 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i've seen the wreckage of one myself | Aug 21 17:11 |
CrystalMath | not a russian one, but an american one | Aug 21 17:11 |
CrystalMath | in a police station building, very very far from kosovo | Aug 21 17:11 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Tenths of thousands of civilians have been murdered in these half a year. | Aug 21 17:11 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_hospital_airstrike | Aug 21 17:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mariupol hospital airstrike - Wikipedia | Aug 21 17:12 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: well idk, ukraine has maybe stepped things up, but they were murdering civilians since 2014 | Aug 21 17:12 |
MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariupol_theatre_airstrike | Aug 21 17:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Mariupol theatre airstrike - Wikipedia | Aug 21 17:12 | |
CrystalMath | starting with the odessa massacre | Aug 21 17:12 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: strange how the strikes on the oil rafinery, the maternity hospital, and other places in yugoslavia do not get their own wikipedia page | Aug 21 17:13 |
XRevan86 | Sure, let's bring up the event of two armed groups going insane like that's even barely comparable to anything that Russia has done. | Aug 21 17:13 |
MinceR | maybe your comrades can't afford to fund the web brigades anymore | Aug 21 17:13 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: you know what's interesting? even if all the western lies about russia were true, it would still never compare to what america has done | Aug 21 17:14 |
techrights-news | Links 21/08/2022: Kaisen 2.2 RC1 and Cloud Hypervisor 26.0 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2022/08/21/kaisen-2-2-rc1/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2022/08/21/kaisen-2-2-rc1/ | Aug 21 17:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Links 21/08/2022: Kaisen 2.2 RC1 and Cloud Hypervisor 26.0 | Techrights | Aug 21 17:14 | |
CrystalMath | like, the *alleged* russian war crimes vs *proven* american war crimes, it's no comparison, it's like a speck of dust compared to the sun | Aug 21 17:14 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Alleged, eh? | Aug 21 17:15 |
CrystalMath | remember Assange? he published the details of americans slaughtering civilians in iraq and afghanistan | Aug 21 17:15 |
CrystalMath | remember Abu Graib torture prison? | Aug 21 17:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | but... women... something | Aug 21 17:15 |
CrystalMath | how do i even count america's war crimes? they would fill up the channel before we get to half | Aug 21 17:16 |
CrystalMath | starting from hiroshima and nagasaki | Aug 21 17:16 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Does this count as whataboutism? I can't tell. | Aug 21 17:16 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: so you believe that one side should just sit quietly while another commits horrifying acts of violence? | Aug 21 17:16 |
CrystalMath | that would only lead to world domination of the most evil force | Aug 21 17:16 |
MinceR | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Aug 21 17:16 |
CrystalMath | which is exactly what you and MinceR wanta | Aug 21 17:17 |
CrystalMath | *want | Aug 21 17:17 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I can't help but live in the present though. | Aug 21 17:17 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: so we should just forget the horrifying acts of violence that lead to the most evil force taking over a huge part of the world? | Aug 21 17:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | when it comes to war crimes, USA is the undisputed champion, but it controls most of the media, esp. in English | Aug 21 17:17 |
MinceR | IME it's whataboutism if reasonable do it, never if fascists do it | Aug 21 17:17 |
CrystalMath | what about the people still enslaved by them? | Aug 21 17:17 |
MinceR | everything is allowed to fascists | Aug 21 17:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | whwn russia bombs a hospital it's barbarism | Aug 21 17:17 |
CrystalMath | thankfully, MASHALLAH, afghanistan is now free of them | Aug 21 17:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | when the US does it it is an accident | Aug 21 17:18 |
CrystalMath | but iraq still isn't | Aug 21 17:18 |
MinceR | s/ble/ble people/ | Aug 21 17:18 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: the US is *still* sitting in iraq, a seat they won through horrifying acts of violence | Aug 21 17:18 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Why is "freedom" so miserable to the Afghani? | Aug 21 17:18 |
MinceR | i missed the part where unrelated usian acts somehow justify orcish war crimes in ukraine | Aug 21 17:19 |
MinceR | but that must be because i wasn't paying enough attention | Aug 21 17:19 |
XRevan86 | Is it necessary for freedom to have an iron boot that sits on the neck of every civilian? | Aug 21 17:19 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: that's what people said after black slaves were freed in america (not that i condone the northern aggression, but slaves should have been freed, and they would have been even if it had not happened) | Aug 21 17:19 |
MinceR | XRevan86: to CrystalMath, only the "freedom" of dictators matters | Aug 21 17:19 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: afghanistan is of course miserable because america made them dependent on them during their rule | Aug 21 17:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 17:20 |
MinceR | religious fundamentalists in afghanistan, dictators in russia, red china and north korea, those people deserve to have "freedom" | Aug 21 17:20 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Definitely not because they're not allowed to listen to music, among other things. | Aug 21 17:20 |
CrystalMath | would you laugh at a homeless woman who ran away from her abusive husband? | Aug 21 17:20 |
CrystalMath | didn't i post some taliban-made music here? | Aug 21 17:20 |
MinceR | the freedom of the billions of slaves they torture every day do not count, they exist merely for the amusement of the people who matter. | Aug 21 17:20 |
CrystalMath | anyway, so you would basically say "look at that woman, ha, she is so miserable now, bet she regrets leaving her abusive husband" | Aug 21 17:21 |
MinceR | of course all this follows naturally from the "conservatives"' idea of "freedom" | Aug 21 17:22 |
XRevan86 | It's more like the husband left home and the woman was immediately kidnapped. | Aug 21 17:22 |
XRevan86 | She's more happy this way. | Aug 21 17:22 |
techrights-news | Why is the cosmos the theme of Gemini? gemini://szczezuja.flounder.online/gemlog/2022-08-21-Why-is-the-cosmos-the-theme-of-Gemini.gmi | Aug 21 17:23 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: america made afghanistan dependent on them, with 80% of the money coming solely from aid | Aug 21 17:23 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: and then they robbed them, too | Aug 21 17:23 |
CrystalMath | stole 7 billion | Aug 21 17:23 |
schestowitz[TR] | while giving 22 more to Microsoft | Aug 21 17:24 |
schestowitz[TR] | "We stole your whole countries' savings here" | Aug 21 17:24 |
schestowitz[TR] | "and we bail out criminals" (Microsoft) | Aug 21 17:24 |
schestowitz[TR] | to the tune of more than 3 times that much | Aug 21 17:24 |
schestowitz[TR] | under the guise of "mdefense" | Aug 21 17:24 |
schestowitz[TR] | choosing between USA and Russia is like choosing to be raped by azog or that other ugly creature from LOTR | Aug 21 17:25 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: So what brought Afghanistan down wasn't that they couldn't defend themselves against Taliban? | Aug 21 17:26 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: they *are* the taliban | Aug 21 17:26 |
schestowitz[TR] | Bolg | Aug 21 17:26 |
schestowitz[TR] | https://yewtu.be/watch?v=dncbRcjKXyc | Aug 21 17:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | BOLG* The Son of Azog - The Hobbit - Invidious | Aug 21 17:26 | |
XRevan86 | And *I* was Putin all along 🤯. | Aug 21 17:26 |
CrystalMath | the problem with your viewpoint, and MinceR's, is that you absolutely believe without allowing any doubt, that liberalism is the only right way to live | Aug 21 17:27 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 17:27 |
CrystalMath | because if you even consider the possibility that liberalism is harmful, you realize that countries should not be forced to be dependent on others | Aug 21 17:27 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I believe in that the government should be accountable to the people. | Aug 21 17:27 |
CrystalMath | but do you ever doubt that, even once? | Aug 21 17:27 |
XRevan86 | If that's called liberalism, then yes, I do believe that. | Aug 21 17:27 |
CrystalMath | i doubt what i think sometimes | Aug 21 17:27 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: i'm interested in the freedom of people, not in the freedom of countries. | Aug 21 17:27 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: but do you ever doubt that it's good? | Aug 21 17:28 |
CrystalMath | i think not | Aug 21 17:28 |
XRevan86 | "because if you even consider the possibility that liberalism is harmful, you realise that countries should not be forced to be dependent on its citizens" | Aug 21 17:28 |
CrystalMath | while i do | Aug 21 17:28 |
MinceR | good on you | Aug 21 17:28 |
CrystalMath | i want there to exist places which do things differently | Aug 21 17:28 |
CrystalMath | if nothing else, to have a "control group" | Aug 21 17:28 |
MinceR | "i believe in statist authoritarian nonsense but it's ok because i claim to doubt it sometimes" | Aug 21 17:28 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: no, but i would gladly allow a small piece of land to have such a system to test it, because i don't *know* that what i think is good is better than that | Aug 21 17:29 |
CrystalMath | because we don't know what is good | Aug 21 17:29 |
MinceR | ooh, how generous | Aug 21 17:29 |
XRevan86 | I live in a place where it is thought that a person has a duty to the government, but there's no opposite thought. | Aug 21 17:29 |
MinceR | a small piece of land! | Aug 21 17:29 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: yes, for example afghanistan | Aug 21 17:29 |
MinceR | who gives a shit about the suffering of people when the land is all that matters. | Aug 21 17:29 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I am sick of this corrupt shit. | Aug 21 17:29 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: afghanistan is a tiny fragment of the land where authoritarian monsters rule | Aug 21 17:30 |
MinceR | and probably isn't even the worst example | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: we do not know if they are monsters, how do you know you are better than them? | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | i personally don't think you are | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | you would oppress people in different ways | Aug 21 17:30 |
MinceR | i use my central nervous system | Aug 21 17:30 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: How do ye know ye are better than Putin? | Aug 21 17:30 |
MinceR | i think about things | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | you would probably take away my right to incandecent lightbulbs and leaded solder, among other things | Aug 21 17:30 |
XRevan86 | Very arrogant of you, MinceR, tsk-tsk. | Aug 21 17:30 |
MinceR | with that, it's easy to know that they are monsters | Aug 21 17:30 |
MinceR | and it's easy to know that i'm better than them | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: you can't ever know that, because there is no objective good or bad | Aug 21 17:30 |
CrystalMath | so no, you are not better than Putin objectively, because it's impossible to be better or worse objectively | Aug 21 17:31 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Maybe we can make a count of how many people Putin and MinceR tried to poison and then go from there. | Aug 21 17:31 |
MinceR | > there is no objective good or bad | Aug 21 17:31 |
MinceR | so what the hell are you arguing for? | Aug 21 17:31 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: diversity! | Aug 21 17:31 |
CrystalMath | diversity of thought, diversity of systems | Aug 21 17:31 |
MinceR | where's the diversity between all the systems of oppression you support? | Aug 21 17:32 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: the systems of oppression you support would exist too, of course | Aug 21 17:32 |
MinceR | where's the thought in the bullshit orban and his allies spout? | Aug 21 17:32 |
MinceR | like the recent racist idiocy | Aug 21 17:32 |
MinceR | 21 183235 < CrystalMath> MinceR: the systems of oppression you support would exist too, of course | Aug 21 17:32 |
MinceR | that's the empty set | Aug 21 17:32 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: you support the EU, which is oppressive | Aug 21 17:33 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: why do you argue for diversity? | Aug 21 17:33 |
XRevan86 | Can there be diversity *inside* Russia or is it only allowed for Russia itself to be divergent in how backwards it is? | Aug 21 17:33 |
MinceR | i prefer the EU to orbanistan | Aug 21 17:33 |
MinceR | other than that, it's failing hard | Aug 21 17:33 |
CrystalMath | it wants to ban the consumption of meat, leaded solder (which is the only good kind), incandescent lightbulbs, petrol engines (the only ones not remotely controlled by Tesla).... | Aug 21 17:33 |
MinceR | the EU has some nice alleged values, but either they don't care to uphold them, or are too incompetent to do so | Aug 21 17:33 |
XRevan86 | Also, how diversive can an iron boot even be? | Aug 21 17:33 |
MinceR | where's the diversity of thought in a totalitarian dictatorship? | Aug 21 17:34 |
MinceR | where's the diversity of thought where people are thrown in gulag for expressing dissent? | Aug 21 17:34 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath is robbed of the ncandecent lightbulb, I am a potential felon for even talking about this. | Aug 21 17:34 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah like people arrested for quoting the bible at a pride parade | Aug 21 17:34 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: shame on germany | Aug 21 17:34 |
MinceR | pretty sure we have incandescent lightbulbs | Aug 21 17:34 |
XRevan86 | One is slavery, the other is true freedom, don't mistake one for the other. | Aug 21 17:34 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: why do you argue for diversity? | Aug 21 17:35 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: if you quote the bible, you are "intolerant" and thrown in to the gulag | Aug 21 17:35 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: because no system is right | Aug 21 17:35 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: so how can you be sure that diversity is right? | Aug 21 17:35 |
XRevan86 | https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022/08/21/drag-queen-and-chechen-veteran-bomba-kibersisi-made-to-apologise-on-camera-for-singing-russian-anthem-while-holding-lgbt-flag-news "Drag queen and Chechen veteran Bomba Kibersisi made to apologise on camera for singing Russian anthem while holding LGBT flag" | Aug 21 17:35 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-novayagazeta.eu | Новая газета. Европа | Aug 21 17:35 | |
CrystalMath | MinceR: since the alternative would mean that one system would rule over all | Aug 21 17:35 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: this would be bad because no system is right, of course | Aug 21 17:35 |
MinceR | also, can they hurry up and throw the members of the CDU and the CSU in that gulag already? | Aug 21 17:35 |
CrystalMath | so, the one ruling system would necesarily be bad | Aug 21 17:36 |
MinceR | > this would be bad | Aug 21 17:36 |
XRevan86 | There were several instances when quotes from the Bible on a banner got considered discreditation of the Russian army. | Aug 21 17:36 |
MinceR | > there is no objective good or bad | Aug 21 17:36 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it's a paradox, one that is only resolved by accepting diversity | Aug 21 17:36 |
MinceR | please make up your tiny mind. | Aug 21 17:36 |
MinceR | quotes from the bible could discredit anything, the bible being an inconsistent mess | Aug 21 17:36 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: yes but it should not be banned | Aug 21 17:37 |
CrystalMath | and people should not be arrested for reading it | Aug 21 17:37 |
MinceR | agreed | Aug 21 17:37 |
MinceR | and i doubt it's done anywhere | Aug 21 17:37 |
MinceR | except possibly in states run by religious fundamentalists | Aug 21 17:37 |
MinceR | for example, i doubt the talibans you support would take too kindly to anyone quoting the new testament. | Aug 21 17:37 |
CrystalMath | well i didn't say i want to invade germany, i just want to say that all systems are equally bad, and so we need a diversity of systems | Aug 21 17:37 |
CrystalMath | germany could even choose to jail people who are christian and i would not invade them | Aug 21 17:38 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: That's a euphemism for "execution"? | Aug 21 17:38 |
CrystalMath | it's none of my business | Aug 21 17:38 |
MinceR | XRevan86: the exact punishment is irrelevant to my point | Aug 21 17:38 |
MinceR | there is no religious freedom in religious fundamentalist states | Aug 21 17:38 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: the solution isn't to eradicate islam, the solution is to give islam a little piece of territory, and also every other idea gets some territory too, then we can try all the ideas | Aug 21 17:39 |
MinceR | no, that's not the solution | Aug 21 17:39 |
MinceR | the solution is to tolerate muslims as long as they tolerate other people | Aug 21 17:39 |
MinceR | it's part of a little thing called "civilization" | Aug 21 17:39 |
MinceR | it's about time this species gave it a try. | Aug 21 17:39 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Rats get better treatment. | Aug 21 17:39 |
CrystalMath | unfortunately, people attack eachother, we can choose to not be imperialists ourselves, but what about the imperialists who are around? my solution for that is for them to be countered by competing empires | Aug 21 17:40 |
CrystalMath | a multipolar world can keep the individual empires at bay | Aug 21 17:40 |
MinceR | my solution for that is to destroy the imperialists | Aug 21 17:40 |
XRevan86 | Also sucks that Russia disagrees with CrystalMath. | Aug 21 17:40 |
MinceR | and abolish the states | Aug 21 17:40 |
XRevan86 | And when Ukraine strayed away, Putin decided that it's time to do something about them. | Aug 21 17:40 |
MinceR | XRevan86: it's ok, they're special so they get a pass. | Aug 21 17:40 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: Putin is constantly talking about a multipolar world | Aug 21 17:40 |
MinceR | putler is constantly lying | Aug 21 17:40 |
MinceR | so what else is new? | Aug 21 17:40 |
CrystalMath | Dugin also talked about a multipolar world, in his book | Aug 21 17:41 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I will give you a piece of absolute truth right now: | Aug 21 17:41 |
MinceR | dugin is also constantly lying | Aug 21 17:41 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Putin's approach to speeches is he will construct a narrative that will work in his favour and then he will try to sell it. | Aug 21 17:41 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: well idk, they are at least saying nice things... the EU and Klaus Schwab are saying horrible things | Aug 21 17:41 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Don't know, Dugin is pretty much just insane. | Aug 21 17:42 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: maybe to you they seem to be nice things | Aug 21 17:42 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: yes, i want there to be different cultures that do things differently | Aug 21 17:42 |
MinceR | XRevan86: it's an insanity putler and orban are fond of, though | Aug 21 17:42 |
CrystalMath | i want the taliban to be free from external influence | Aug 21 17:42 |
CrystalMath | people who live with them have the option to leave, or live under their rules; like everywhere else... | Aug 21 17:42 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: again, a small cult oppressing tens of millions of people is not "a culture doing things differently" | Aug 21 17:42 |
CrystalMath | it's not like i can move to america and then disrespect copyright law | Aug 21 17:43 |
MinceR | i want the taliban to be free from the ability to run other people's lives | Aug 21 17:43 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: what about a cult trying to oppress 7 billion people? | Aug 21 17:43 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Putin wants his "Russian World" where he can tell the satellite states what to do. | Aug 21 17:43 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: how do you never doubt your own view? | Aug 21 17:43 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: pretty much every cult is that | Aug 21 17:43 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: my views are not based on equivocation, they're based on thought | Aug 21 17:43 |
CrystalMath | so, you see that people are different in this world, and have vastly different ideas and beliefs? | Aug 21 17:44 |
CrystalMath | you want to take one idea, liberalism | Aug 21 17:44 |
CrystalMath | and you want to make sure that anyone who has contrary ideas has no power | Aug 21 17:44 |
CrystalMath | that's called IMPERIALISM | Aug 21 17:44 |
MinceR | yes, most people are different from what one would call intelligent or civilized | Aug 21 17:44 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: do you think that because you haven't given your idea a name, it's not an ideology? | Aug 21 17:45 |
XRevan86 | "so, you see that people are different in this world, and have vastly different ideas and beliefs?" <- Like Ukrainians who by and large want Putin gone? | Aug 21 17:45 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: what about the people of the donbass who want to be free from the Kiev junta? | Aug 21 17:45 |
MinceR | XRevan86: what about the people of the donbass who want to be free from russian oppression? | Aug 21 17:46 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: you are now using precisely britain's imperialist language, btw | Aug 21 17:46 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: In 8 years all they want is to be left in one piece. | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | english? | Aug 21 17:46 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: those already left | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | ooh | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | there's the solution | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | too bad your allies don't like it | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | if they did, there would have been no iron curtain and no berlin wall | Aug 21 17:46 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: anyway... i meant this.. you are using the words like "civilized" | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | how dare i use english words | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | i should type in hungarian | Aug 21 17:46 |
MinceR | i'm sure you'd understand it to the same extent. | Aug 21 17:47 |
CrystalMath | yes but that's what the british empire uses to describe people who have their ideas | Aug 21 17:47 |
CrystalMath | you are quoting their jingoistic texts | Aug 21 17:47 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Ironically, this "liberation" invasion has put these exact people in significantly more danger than they ever were before 2022. | Aug 21 17:47 |
MinceR | i don't care for the british empire, and i'm pretty sure they had no clue what civilization is | Aug 21 17:47 |
MinceR | i'm not quoting anyone | Aug 21 17:47 |
MinceR | do you see quote marks? | Aug 21 17:47 |
XRevan86 | That certainly hasn't boosted anyone's morale. | Aug 21 17:47 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: here is their white supremacist bullcrap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Man's_Burden | Aug 21 17:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The White Man's Burden - Wikipedia | Aug 21 17:47 | |
CrystalMath | MinceR: "our system is civilized, the others are barbarians, we should invade them and save them by enforcing our ideas" | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | i see the ruscist maneuver of "i'll tell you what you're saying" | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | we don't have a civilized system | Aug 21 17:48 |
XRevan86 | And "DPR"/"LPR" are scum. | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | we have people taking personal costs to harm other people on a daily basis | Aug 21 17:48 |
CrystalMath | this is a sickening imperialist sentence: <@MinceR> yes, most people are different from what one would call intelligent or civilized | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | that is not civilization, that's the human condition | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | i see the truth sickens you | Aug 21 17:48 |
MinceR | too fucking bad | Aug 21 17:48 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: why? | Aug 21 17:48 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i think they are nice people | Aug 21 17:48 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: so who is civilized? some kind of god? | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | but it will be even worse when your uncivilized and unintelligent collective behavior finally dooms your species. | Aug 21 17:49 |
CrystalMath | or just you and your liberal clique? | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | i don't have a clique, sadly | Aug 21 17:49 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Nice people who robbed their own regions? Then mobilised every man walking (that's more true of "LPR" than "DPR"). | Aug 21 17:49 |
CrystalMath | yes you do, Klaus Schwab is with you | Aug 21 17:49 |
XRevan86 | Luhansk is the city of women. | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | no, he is not | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | klaus schwab wants me to not own propety | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | s/ety/erty/ | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | fuck him. | Aug 21 17:49 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it's better for the climate | Aug 21 17:49 |
CrystalMath | just like eating bugs | Aug 21 17:49 |
MinceR | no, it is not better for the climate | Aug 21 17:50 |
CrystalMath | idk, i heard liberals are very pissed when someone strays from their hardline ideology... | Aug 21 17:50 |
MinceR | what would be better for the climate are things humans won't be willing to do | Aug 21 17:50 |
CrystalMath | so make sure they don't find out you said you want to own property | Aug 21 17:50 |
MinceR | and so the species will go extinct | Aug 21 17:50 |
MinceR | that's not liberalism, then | Aug 21 17:50 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 17:51 | |
MinceR | neither classical nor social | Aug 21 17:51 |
XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/MoFYXKgr8Bo a nice person | Aug 21 17:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=MoFYXKgr8Bo | Aug 21 17:51 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Connection timed out after 10001 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://inv.bp.mutahar.rocks/watch?v=MoFYXKgr8Bo ) | Aug 21 17:51 | |
XRevan86 | (a Hero of Russia and "DPR") | Aug 21 17:52 |
XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/SabpNMZQBZc I don't know why they even filmed this stuff. | Aug 21 17:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=SabpNMZQBZc | Aug 21 17:52 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Моторола обстреливает из гранатомёта своих - Invidious | Aug 21 17:52 | |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@2kawi7k2inqgg.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 17:53 | |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsen_Pavlov#Death a fate which is to be expected | Aug 21 17:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Arsen Pavlov - Wikipedia | Aug 21 17:55 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: as far as i understand, they are just ukrainians who hate the european union | Aug 21 17:58 |
CrystalMath | and so since we have the same enemy, i like them | Aug 21 17:58 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I eat babies but I do it with hate towards the EU, want to be friends? | Aug 21 18:02 |
XRevan86 | Also consider how diverse that is. | Aug 21 18:02 |
XRevan86 | Baby eating is frowned upon and oppressed. | Aug 21 18:02 |
XRevan86 | (disclaimer: this is role playing in the context, I don't actually eat babies) | Aug 21 18:03 |
CrystalMath | i mean, i defend cultures that throw people into volcanoes to appease a volcano god, i say they should not be invaded | Aug 21 18:03 |
CrystalMath | i say they should be allowed to continue doing this until they themselves realize there is no volcano god | Aug 21 18:04 |
CrystalMath | and the only allowed interference is non-violent | Aug 21 18:04 |
CrystalMath | so, giving them books, etc... | Aug 21 18:04 |
CrystalMath | if you bomb them to stop the throwing of people into volcanoes, you're a monster | Aug 21 18:04 |
CrystalMath | this is what i actually believe, there is no point at which you may be violent to another culture that is not being violent to you | Aug 21 18:05 |
*techuser (~techuser@w432nk8im23p8.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 18:05 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What happens when a culture is violent? | Aug 21 18:06 |
XRevan86 | and a culture to which that other culture is violet to asks for help? | Aug 21 18:06 |
MinceR | 21 190331 < XRevan86> (disclaimer: this is role playing in the context, I don't actually eat babies) | Aug 21 18:06 |
MinceR | they won't quote this line on shitter | Aug 21 18:07 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Heh. | Aug 21 18:07 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: as if twitter would take my side over XRevan86's or yours... | Aug 21 18:08 |
MinceR | it's not your side over ours, it's the corporate SJW's side over TR's | Aug 21 18:08 |
XRevan86 | s/twitter/humanity/g | Aug 21 18:08 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: actually, i think most of the world likes the diversity of thought | Aug 21 18:08 |
MinceR | i think most of the word likes the lack of thought | Aug 21 18:09 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Most of the world doesn't like dictators. | Aug 21 18:09 |
CrystalMath | the vast majority of the world is religious, with MANY different religions, it's human to be different | Aug 21 18:09 |
MinceR | and there isn't much diversity in that | Aug 21 18:09 |
MinceR | religion is not thought | Aug 21 18:09 |
MinceR | and apparently it's human to exterminate one's own species | Aug 21 18:09 |
CrystalMath | i especially like north sentinel island | Aug 21 18:10 |
CrystalMath | we need the world to have more of that, people choosing to separate themselves completely from all others | Aug 21 18:12 |
CrystalMath | we are not all the same, we are different, and we deserve to have different ideas and beliefs | Aug 21 18:13 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: But only if those ideas are against the EU? | Aug 21 18:14 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: well the EU has the idea that everybody must be conquered and enslaved in the name of liberalism | Aug 21 18:15 |
CrystalMath | so of course, we must seek to stop the EU from succeeding, in order to attain this diversity | Aug 21 18:15 |
CrystalMath | everybody should be against imperialists, but... we also have to acknowledge that they exist, so i believe in having different empires that are in a stalemate | Aug 21 18:16 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Well Russia has the idea that everybody must be conquered and enslaved in the name of the Russian World; so of course, we must seek to stop Russia from succeeding, in order to attain this diversity | Aug 21 18:16 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i truly don't think it has such an idea, but i mean, such an idea is again impossible because of the existence of the US, EU, and china | Aug 21 18:17 |
XRevan86 | "i truly don't think it has such an idea" <- Holy crap. | Aug 21 18:17 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It's been proclaimed a billion times. | Aug 21 18:18 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: does russia consider the UK a part of the russian world? | Aug 21 18:18 |
XRevan86 | Do ye have bavolna in your ears? | Aug 21 18:18 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: It's more of an adjacent territories thing. | Aug 21 18:18 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: so, it's about russians having a right to be separate from the EU | Aug 21 18:19 |
CrystalMath | which is trying to push itself onto them | Aug 21 18:19 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: No, it's about having control over the neighbours. | Aug 21 18:19 |
CrystalMath | the EU is expanding eastward, and has been for 30 years | Aug 21 18:19 |
CrystalMath | you don't seem to care about that, though | Aug 21 18:19 |
CrystalMath | when the EU expands, that's fine | Aug 21 18:19 |
CrystalMath | but when russia expands to south ossetia, that's wrong | Aug 21 18:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 18:20 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I am yet to see the EU use the military to expand. | Aug 21 18:20 |
XRevan86 | It's all application this, application that, extremely boring. | Aug 21 18:20 |
XRevan86 | Where's the fun? | Aug 21 18:20 |
CrystalMath | and again that is probably based on "everybody LOVES liberalism, they are just begging to be put in the padded prison of political correctness!" | Aug 21 18:20 |
CrystalMath | like how Moldova had 3 elections, every time the pro-russians won, and every time there was a revolution | Aug 21 18:21 |
CrystalMath | so non-violent, this EU... | Aug 21 18:21 |
XRevan86 | When the methodologists proposed the idea of the Russian World, they thought of Russia as using its economical influence to shape the world. | Aug 21 18:21 |
XRevan86 | But somewhere along the way it turned into "let's undermine our neighbours so that they do what we told them". | Aug 21 18:21 |
CrystalMath | it's interesting how the people vote for pro-russians, and then some armed people storm the government to push it back on the EU track | Aug 21 18:21 |
CrystalMath | but that's not violent, no | Aug 21 18:21 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): THE GAMING ON LINUX GUIDE: #HowTo play anything: Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, Origin, Battle.net, GoG... ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/THE_GAMING_ON_LINUX_GUIDE_How_to_play_anything_Steam_Epic_Ubiso.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/THE_GAMING_ON_LINUX_GUIDE_How_to_play_anything_Steam_Epic_Ubiso.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 18:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — THE GAMING ON LINUX GUIDE: How to play anything: Steam, Epic, Ubisoft, Origin, Battle.net, GoG... | Aug 21 18:22 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: the EU is very, very violent, it just doesn't use its military, it funds terrorists | Aug 21 18:22 |
techuser | tuxmachines now? | Aug 21 18:22 |
techuser | was gamingonlinux | Aug 21 18:22 |
techuser | you are worsening | Aug 21 18:22 |
schestowitz[TR] | techuser: so you never use proprietary software I take it...? | Aug 21 18:23 |
heureka | CrystalMath: soviet regime left a blood trail in history too | Aug 21 18:24 |
techuser | I sometimes do | Aug 21 18:24 |
techuser | but you promote it | Aug 21 18:24 |
XRevan86 | If only Hitler were here to oppose the EU, amirite? | Aug 21 18:25 |
heureka | unrelated to recent events: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism | Aug 21 18:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | The Black Book of Communism - Wikipedia | Aug 21 18:25 | |
techrights-news | Why Manchester City can't win the Champions League https://yewtu.be/watch?v=CqskvKhA5eA very funny and true | Aug 21 18:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Why Manchester City can't win the Champions League - Invidious | Aug 21 18:30 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: nah, Hitler was its founder | Aug 21 18:33 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Wow, that's a twist. | Aug 21 18:33 |
CrystalMath | yes, the monstrous idea of european unification is his idea | Aug 21 18:34 |
CrystalMath | he also believed there are two kinds of people: those who believe in his ideology, and those who deserve to be banished or exterminated | Aug 21 18:41 |
CrystalMath | just like the people i argue with here... | Aug 21 18:42 |
CrystalMath | let's not forget that while i would permit liberalism to exist in a part of the world, you would NOT permit any other system to exist ANYWHERE in the world, possibly not even the universe | Aug 21 18:42 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: "And *I* was Putin all along 🤯." <- I am not actually Putin. | Aug 21 18:42 |
XRevan86 | If I were I'd find a play for you in the Navalny's Labour Union. | Aug 21 18:44 |
XRevan86 | * a place | Aug 21 18:44 |
CrystalMath | perhaps it's a mistake to let liberalism exist, after all, they would not permit me to exist | Aug 21 18:46 |
CrystalMath | but if liberals can be controlled, and beaten if they ever try to "save" anyone ever again, then they can live they way they want, why not | Aug 21 18:47 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 18:52 | |
MinceR | 21 191058 < CrystalMath> i especially like north sentinel island | Aug 21 18:52 |
MinceR | i wonder how well you'll like it when it's under the ocean | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | 21 191518 < CrystalMath> XRevan86: well the EU has the idea that everybody must be conquered and enslaved in the name of liberalism | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | that's funny | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | every member of the EU joined voluntarily | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | none of the territories the orcish empire annexed did | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | neither did the eastern bloc after ww2 | Aug 21 18:53 |
MinceR | and yet it's the orcs and their fans that are screaming "imperialism" every fucking minute | Aug 21 18:54 |
MinceR | 21 191905 < CrystalMath> XRevan86: so, it's about russians having a right to be separate from the EU | Aug 21 18:54 |
MinceR | then don't join the EU? | Aug 21 18:54 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) | Aug 21 18:55 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: But Ukraine is on course of eurointegration, so they must be invaded to stop that. | Aug 21 18:55 |
MinceR | right | Aug 21 18:55 |
MinceR | funny how this self-determination and diversity works | Aug 21 18:55 |
MinceR | apparently, people have no rights, and countries have rights only to oppress and torture people | Aug 21 18:56 |
*psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 18:56 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: As long as it's against the EU it's all fair game. | Aug 21 18:56 |
MinceR | right | Aug 21 18:56 |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@eq3snar22puje.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 18:56 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: And all the crimes are alleged. | Aug 21 18:56 |
XRevan86 | Even when they are filmed. | Aug 21 18:57 |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 18:57 | |
XRevan86 | Or especially then. | Aug 21 18:57 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Just look at what the EU made us do! Disgusting! | Aug 21 18:57 |
*psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 18:58 | |
XRevan86 | Usually it's "NATO" but CrystalMath has his own twist on the story. | Aug 21 18:58 |
*psydroid2 has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 18:59 | |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▂▃▄▁▂▁▂▄▅▅▂▂▃▄▁▂▂▁▂▁▄▁▂▂▂▃▄▁▁▁▁▁▃▃▄▃▅▅▁ avg(k/sec) 9.23 ▕ IPFS upstream: ███▁▁▁▁▄▁▁▁▁▁██▁█▁▁▁██▁█▇▁█▁▁█▁ avg(k/sec) 99.58▕ swarm size (avg): 111.13 ⟲ | Aug 21 18:59 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: russia does not intend to stop all of the ukraine from joining the EU, just the part that doesn't want it | Aug 21 18:59 |
CrystalMath | which the other part attacked first | Aug 21 19:00 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Like Kherson? | Aug 21 19:00 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: like kyiv? | Aug 21 19:00 |
CrystalMath | well i know the donbass and crimea absolutely don't want to join the EU, Kherson was probably taken to stop attacks on these areas | Aug 21 19:00 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | Aug 21 19:00 | |
MinceR | (do i need to remind you that your favorite orcish horde also tried to destroy kyiv?) | Aug 21 19:00 |
*psydroid2 (~psydroid@memzbmehf99re.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:00 | |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Never happened, the "gesture of good will" restroactively erased the past ambitions from history. | Aug 21 19:01 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i don't really know about military tactics and things like that | Aug 21 19:01 |
MinceR | i don't know why people even have referenda, when oracles like CrystalMath already know what the people want | Aug 21 19:01 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: there are many things you do not know about, but does that stop you from trying to educate others? | Aug 21 19:01 |
XRevan86 | "Kherson was probably taken to stop attacks on these areas" <- https://memegenerator.net/img/images/15803187.jpg | Aug 21 19:02 |
CrystalMath | anyway, "every member of the EU joined voluntarily" is maybe true for the countries that filled it up by the 90s | Aug 21 19:02 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath is a born comedian. | Aug 21 19:02 |
heureka | i never agreed to join EU, never was asked, and the three "currency reforms" of EU were imposed against my will too | Aug 21 19:03 |
CrystalMath | heureka: when did your country join? | Aug 21 19:03 |
heureka | CrystalMath: never, it was colonized, east-germany, after 1990 | Aug 21 19:03 |
CrystalMath | ah, yes, so indeed you were forced by violence | Aug 21 19:03 |
CrystalMath | that's very sad :( | Aug 21 19:03 |
MinceR | hungary was a republic when it joined, with a real referendum, and despite ruscist propaganda from fideath, it still enjoys the support of the majority | Aug 21 19:04 |
XRevan86 | The Berlin wall was violently demolished, yes. | Aug 21 19:04 |
heureka | CrystalMath: no violence, they chose expropriations of the inhabitants | Aug 21 19:04 |
MinceR | also a hilarious idea | Aug 21 19:04 |
heureka | this was the method of EU and the west | Aug 21 19:04 |
CrystalMath | heureka: well that is also violence | Aug 21 19:04 |
XRevan86 | Must be the EU infiltrators that destroyed the Wall. | Aug 21 19:04 |
MinceR | apparently everything is violence except actual violence | Aug 21 19:05 |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:05 | |
CrystalMath | MinceR: do you, like, ever criticize the liberal world for its invasions, i wonder... even once? | Aug 21 19:05 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: The strange thing is that when I made ludicrious claims for comedic purposes, it helps me fit in. | Aug 21 19:05 |
CrystalMath | i criticize soviet russia for invading afghanistan, that was wrong | Aug 21 19:05 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: probably, if they were mentioned | Aug 21 19:06 |
heureka | XRevan86: well, who occupied Germany? | Aug 21 19:06 |
XRevan86 | Must be a form of Poe's Law. | Aug 21 19:06 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: do you criticize the US invasion of afghanistan? | Aug 21 19:06 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: but in the first place, i'd like for a liberal world to actually exist | Aug 21 19:06 |
MinceR | instead of a slightly less shitty part of the world | Aug 21 19:06 |
XRevan86 | heureka: First I must ask if "internal occupation" in your vocabulary. | Aug 21 19:06 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: do you criticize the US invasion of afghanistan? | Aug 21 19:06 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: i probably already did | Aug 21 19:07 |
heureka | CrystalMath rarely speaks here, hence i don't want to interrupt him XRevan86 | Aug 21 19:07 |
MinceR | interesting how that works | Aug 21 19:07 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: okay, good, but you seem to struggle to say it, as if somehow you were kinda happy about the idea of people being killed because their culture involves women wearing burqas | Aug 21 19:07 |
MinceR | someone must always flood the channel with ruscist nonsense | Aug 21 19:07 |
MinceR | but it's ok if it's only 1 person at a time | Aug 21 19:07 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: i'm no fan of the taliban either | Aug 21 19:08 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: but at least you agree they should not be killed by outside invaders? | Aug 21 19:08 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: also, islamist "culture" involves doing far worse things to women than that, though i'm sure your "thought" leaders aren't bragging about it right now | Aug 21 19:08 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it is not my place to tell them what to do | Aug 21 19:08 |
MinceR | only when they must incide hatred against refugees | Aug 21 19:08 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 19:09 |
CrystalMath | i can say what *I* would do | Aug 21 19:09 |
MinceR | it must be nice to be someone to whom it is not your place to tell what to do | Aug 21 19:09 |
CrystalMath | and i can say, i wouldn't do that | Aug 21 19:09 |
MinceR | it's a small and elite club | Aug 21 19:09 |
CrystalMath | it seems like about half of the whole world would rather force the taliban to live in ways contrary to their ideas and beliefs | Aug 21 19:09 |
MinceR | i'd prefer to just kill them | Aug 21 19:10 |
CrystalMath | that half includes the evil atlantic empire (US, Canada, UK, western europe, and its outskirts new zealand and australia | Aug 21 19:10 |
MinceR | they can't tolerate anyone else living in freedom anyway | Aug 21 19:10 |
XRevan86 | Maybe most of the Afghanis would like to force the Taliban to live in ways contrary to their ideas and beliefs. | Aug 21 19:10 |
CrystalMath | <@MinceR> i'd prefer to just kill them <- so you're a murderer? | Aug 21 19:10 |
XRevan86 | But they have guns. | Aug 21 19:10 |
MinceR | yes, everyone who would kill in self-defense or in defense of innocents is a murderer | Aug 21 19:10 |
XRevan86 | They know how to use them, and they have no mercy. | Aug 21 19:10 |
CrystalMath | also you just backtracked | Aug 21 19:10 |
MinceR | right | Aug 21 19:11 |
CrystalMath | <@MinceR> CrystalMath: i probably already did | Aug 21 19:11 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: do you think the taliban carry guns as ornaments? | Aug 21 19:11 |
CrystalMath | like wow... so you don't actually criticize the US invasion | Aug 21 19:11 |
CrystalMath | you criticize that the US left | Aug 21 19:11 |
XRevan86 | Having no mercy really helps to that diversity thing CrystalMath is talking about. | Aug 21 19:11 |
MinceR | the US failed to achieve its goals with the invasion | Aug 21 19:11 |
MinceR | so it was a failed invasion | Aug 21 19:11 |
CrystalMath | you are a hopeless libtard and i hope that all your dreams are crushed forever and ever | Aug 21 19:11 |
XRevan86 | My dreams have been crushed before I was even eligible to "vote". | Aug 21 19:12 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: but before you get all too enthusiastic about this, you should read up on what your beloved orcs did in afghanistan. | Aug 21 19:12 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: you are a hopeless fascist and i hope you die slowly and painfully. | Aug 21 19:12 |
MinceR | also, my dreams were crushed long ago, when i found out what humans were actually like. | Aug 21 19:13 |
XRevan86 | I have a mentality of a slave, and it's probably going to scar me for life. | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i'm a fascist, but you want to go kill people, i don't | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | libtards are the true fascists | Aug 21 19:14 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: what do you think your idols are doing to ukrainians right now? | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | i just want people to be left alone to live the way they want | Aug 21 19:14 |
MinceR | no, you don't want that | Aug 21 19:14 |
MinceR | you're a pathological liar | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: what are the ukrainians doing in the donbass? | Aug 21 19:14 |
MinceR | you want a small minority to oppress, torture and terrorize billions of people | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | having a picnic, scattering petal mines on civilians | Aug 21 19:14 |
MinceR | try to re-establish their republic? | Aug 21 19:14 |
CrystalMath | by scattering petal mines on civilians | Aug 21 19:15 |
XRevan86 | "scattering petal mines" <- I guess I'm the only one who tries to avoid unconfirmed events. | Aug 21 19:15 |
MinceR | you should know that unconfirmed events claimed by ruscist propaganda media is gospel | Aug 21 19:15 |
MinceR | while well documented facts stated by everyone else is "lies" | Aug 21 19:16 |
CrystalMath | yeah sure, ignore all the people interviewed by Patrick Lancaster, they are all paid actors | Aug 21 19:16 |
CrystalMath | ignore that he recorded missiles falling onto civilian houses in a village | Aug 21 19:16 |
CrystalMath | being fired from ukrop-controlled places | Aug 21 19:17 |
CrystalMath | every time the EU commits terrorism, it's always fake | Aug 21 19:17 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i guess it was also fake when i saw it first hand? | Aug 21 19:17 |
CrystalMath | when they bombed serbia | Aug 21 19:18 |
CrystalMath | that must have been fake, right? the EU would never kill innocent civilians | Aug 21 19:18 |
MinceR | i guess you already forgot why they bombed serbia | Aug 21 19:18 |
CrystalMath | they bombed civilians in serbia that had nothing to do with anything happening in kosovo | Aug 21 19:18 |
MinceR | also, that the victims of the serbs aren't people who deserve to live the way they want to | Aug 21 19:19 |
CrystalMath | it cannot be justified | Aug 21 19:19 |
CrystalMath | it's monstrous that you even try it | Aug 21 19:19 |
XRevan86 | https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=https://theins.press/antifake/251862 "RIA Novosti spoke about the "crime of the Ukrainian Nazis" according to an American who has already been seen in creating fakes about Ukraine" | Aug 21 19:19 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-theins-press.translate.goog | РИА «Новости» рассказало о «преступлении украинских нацистов» со слов американца, уже замеченного в создании фейков об Украине | Aug 21 19:20 | |
XRevan86 | What a great chap this Lancaster guy. | Aug 21 19:20 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 19:20 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: it was probably also fake when i saw americans bomb civilian targets first hand | Aug 21 19:20 |
CrystalMath | since like, they would never do anything like that, right? | Aug 21 19:20 |
CrystalMath | except ALWAYS | Aug 21 19:20 |
CrystalMath | dude, did you not see the video Assange published? | Aug 21 19:21 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Sure, let that be the reason why ye must believe in lies. | Aug 21 19:21 |
MinceR | everybody knows only orcs and talibans have the right to bomb civilian targets | Aug 21 19:21 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: that's no reason to claim that ukrops and yanks never do that | Aug 21 19:21 |
CrystalMath | and that's no reason to claim that when ukrops and yanks do it, that it's somehow justified | Aug 21 19:21 |
MinceR | orcs and talibans have the perfect excuse for everything | Aug 21 19:21 |
MinceR | and their victims are apparently not humans | Aug 21 19:22 |
CrystalMath | note that the taliban never fought outside of afghanistan | Aug 21 19:22 |
CrystalMath | which is where they live | Aug 21 19:22 |
CrystalMath | and their homes is what you tried to take away, and failed thankfully | Aug 21 19:22 |
CrystalMath | at the same time, you could also remember that russia never fought on another continent | Aug 21 19:23 |
CrystalMath | while yanks certainly have | Aug 21 19:23 |
XRevan86 | "note that the taliban never fought outside of afghanistan" <- So Tajikistan is also Afghanistan? | Aug 21 19:23 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: It's always a good idea to double check everything CrystalMath presents as fact. | Aug 21 19:24 |
CrystalMath | the taliban did not take over tajikistan | Aug 21 19:24 |
CrystalMath | they were fighting to keep their own homes | Aug 21 19:24 |
XRevan86 | They failed ⇒ never happened? | Aug 21 19:24 |
CrystalMath | when did they try? | Aug 21 19:25 |
XRevan86 | The 90s, but reportedly they're still have a presence there. | Aug 21 19:25 |
CrystalMath | they have a presence in pakistan too, i'm not sure if that counts as an invasion | Aug 21 19:25 |
MinceR | XRevan86: life is too short for that, so i just ignore all of those | Aug 21 19:25 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: That works. | Aug 21 19:26 |
MinceR | i wonder if the people oppressed by the talibans think of the place where they live "ah yes, this is one of the homes of the taliban" | Aug 21 19:26 |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 19:26 | |
CrystalMath | not only are most pashto people taliban supporters, but a number of dari people support it too; probably some tajiks | Aug 21 19:27 |
CrystalMath | it's not our business anyway, leave them alone | Aug 21 19:28 |
*techuser (~techuser@86hcinnuccn68.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:28 | |
techrights-news | "We put together a list that includes vulnerable XSS and SQL sites too. When we say this word we actually mean ethical hacking and using such sites and apps for testing gives a safe environment to practice the craft legally while staying on the right side of the law." https://dekisoft.com/vulnerable-xss-sql-sites-web-app-testing/ | Aug 21 19:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-12 Vulnerable Sites & Web Applications For Pen Testing 2022 - DekiSoft | Aug 21 19:28 | |
CrystalMath | they leave you alone... they would have delivered Osama bin Laden, if only america would guarantee him a fair trial | Aug 21 19:28 |
MinceR | what is apparently your business is what alliances ukrainians enter into. | Aug 21 19:28 |
MinceR | interesting. | Aug 21 19:28 |
MinceR | ukrainians left me alone | Aug 21 19:28 |
MinceR | orcs didn't | Aug 21 19:28 |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Celluloid (Gnome MPV) Now GTK4 + LibAwaita Video Player for Linux ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Celluloid_Gnome_MPV_Now_GTK4_LibAwaita_Video_Player_for_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/Celluloid_Gnome_MPV_Now_GTK4_LibAwaita_Video_Player_for_Linux.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 19:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — Celluloid (Gnome MPV) Now GTK4 + LibAwaita Video Player for Linux | Aug 21 19:28 | |
MinceR | usians left me alone | Aug 21 19:28 |
CrystalMath | ukrainians didn't leave the donbass alone | Aug 21 19:28 |
MinceR | chinese didn't | Aug 21 19:28 |
CrystalMath | what did the chinese do to you? | Aug 21 19:29 |
CrystalMath | i recall of no chinese invasion of hungary | Aug 21 19:29 |
MinceR | supported the fascist government that oppresses me | Aug 21 19:29 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: It's evident sovereignty means nothing to CrystalMath. | Aug 21 19:29 |
MinceR | XRevan86: only the sovereignty of shitholes like orcland, red china and north korea. | Aug 21 19:29 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i believe that it's better to split than to oppress, if there is a strong geographic line that could be drawn | Aug 21 19:30 |
CrystalMath | so yeah, i don't think serbia should retake all of kosovo | Aug 21 19:30 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And if an outside power decides where the line is drawn, that's a-O.K. | Aug 21 19:30 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: the people can decide it | Aug 21 19:30 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: And the people are FSB. | Aug 21 19:30 |
CrystalMath | no, the people who live there | Aug 21 19:30 |
XRevan86 | Nah, FSB seems more reliable. | Aug 21 19:30 |
CrystalMath | the people who live in the donbass are very reliably pro-russian | Aug 21 19:31 |
CrystalMath | probably more so than the FSB | Aug 21 19:31 |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 19:31 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Is that why the 2014 war was ignited by an FSB operative? | Aug 21 19:31 |
MinceR | why talk of putler in the plural? | Aug 21 19:31 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: oh so like euromaidan tearing down the entire democratic system of ukraine was... what? | Aug 21 19:32 |
MinceR | "the person can decide it" | Aug 21 19:32 |
MinceR | more honest, more grammatically correct. | Aug 21 19:32 |
*techuser (~techuser@ikcgfy7b282sc.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:32 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Consider it a test of literacy, do ye know of whom I speak? | Aug 21 19:32 |
CrystalMath | no... | Aug 21 19:32 |
CrystalMath | it's probably some false narrative | Aug 21 19:33 |
XRevan86 | Igor Girkin-Strelkov. | Aug 21 19:33 |
XRevan86 | "it's probably some false narrative" <- Maybe he doesn't exist. | Aug 21 19:34 |
XRevan86 | All a figment of imagination. | Aug 21 19:34 |
XRevan86 | He's also a cornerstone of the MH17 case. | Aug 21 19:34 |
XRevan86 | And quite an amusing chap, currently he is a big critic of how the war is conducted. | Aug 21 19:35 |
XRevan86 | One of the biggest war criminals is exposing the lies of Russian war propaganda, now isn't that the Zeitgeist. | Aug 21 19:36 |
CrystalMath | hmm, i had to check first, it seems that Strelkov was that lunatic who said romania has taken over moldova | Aug 21 19:36 |
CrystalMath | i wouldn't trust anything he says | Aug 21 19:36 |
MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/2208018 | Aug 21 19:37 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living https://i.redd.it/m3x8kqurkje91.jpg created on 2022-08-01 01:38:54.853900 | Aug 21 19:37 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Doesn't sound like something he would say. | Aug 21 19:37 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: What are your sources? | Aug 21 19:37 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i saw it on twitter, i remember searching for who it is and it was the same face, though i did not find the post again | Aug 21 19:38 |
MinceR | truthiness | Aug 21 19:39 |
MinceR | it feels true, therefore it is true. | Aug 21 19:39 |
CrystalMath | he did say it: https://www.national.ro/stiri-externe/oficial-rus-acuza-romania-ca-se-pregateste-pentru-atacarea-transnistriei-si-anexarea-republicii-moldova-760462.html | Aug 21 19:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.national.ro | INCREDIBIL: RUSIA ACUZĂ ROMÂNIA că se pregătește să atace Transnistria! PLANUL pentru anexarea Moldovei! | Ziarul National | Aug 21 19:40 | |
CrystalMath | i remember the post began with "is planning to" but then said "the romanian military has already taken control of most bases" | Aug 21 19:40 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Do ye have a problem with faces? | Aug 21 19:40 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i do sometimes feel like i have trouble identifying faces, but tests showed that it's not clinically bad | Aug 21 19:41 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Markov | Aug 21 19:41 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Sergei Markov - Wikipedia | Aug 21 19:41 | |
CrystalMath | the source above has this sentence: "Anterior, fostul ministru al Apărării al RDP, Igor Strelkov, afirmase că România face pregătiri ascunse pentru capturarea Moldovei!" | Aug 21 19:42 |
XRevan86 | As ye can see, this is not just a completely different person, but also a close ally to Putin. | Aug 21 19:42 |
CrystalMath | no i didn't mean the whole article as a source, the articles just mentions what i remember | Aug 21 19:42 |
*heureka has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 19:43 | |
CrystalMath | apparently Strelkov's statement did not warrant a whole article for itself | Aug 21 19:43 |
*heureka (~heureka@hkqrq3ybxnrfa.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:44 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: I see. | Aug 21 19:44 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 19:44 |
XRevan86 | Just some Russian madness over Transnistria. | Aug 21 19:44 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Girkin is not immune, he's a monarchist. | Aug 21 19:44 |
XRevan86 | and a supporter of the Russian World | Aug 21 19:45 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: He's the most honest the pro-Kremlin world has to offer, but the bar is extremely low. | Aug 21 19:46 |
*heureka has quit (connection closed) | Aug 21 19:48 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: https://bellingcat.com/news/2022/07/18/donbas-doubles-the-search-for-girkin-and-plotnitskys-cover-identities/ this can give an outline. | Aug 21 19:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Donbas Doubles: The Search for Girkin and Plotnitsky's Cover Identities - bellingcat | Aug 21 19:48 | |
CrystalMath | i think Strelkov is just nuts | Aug 21 19:48 |
techrights-news | "I completed my order of the Steam Deck last week." gopher://sdfeu.org:70/0/users/glaciurso/phlog/2022-08-21__Update.md | Aug 21 19:49 |
XRevan86 | They all are. | Aug 21 19:49 |
*heureka (~heureka@zbyq5zpgk4h7a.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 19:49 | |
MinceR | you'd have to be nuts to support vladolf | Aug 21 19:49 |
techrights-news | "Linux is the second most popular OS after Windows." Windows is not popular. OEMs force many people to use it on PCs. https://dekisoft.com/best-programmable-mechanical-keyboards-linux/ | Aug 21 19:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-6 Best Programmable and Mechanical Keyboards For Linux 2022 (Update) - DekiSoft | Aug 21 19:50 | |
MinceR | Linux is a kernel, not an OS | Aug 21 19:51 |
MinceR | also, windows is malware, not an OS | Aug 21 19:51 |
schestowitz[TR] | Maldows | Aug 21 19:51 |
XRevan86 | The collaborators are freaks on top of freaks, Stremousov is one of the saner ones and even he looks like he escaped an asylum. | Aug 21 19:51 |
schestowitz[TR] | Rachel Maldows | Aug 21 19:51 |
CrystalMath | i think Strelkov is either purposely trying to discredit russia, or if he truly is pro-russian, he should just retire | Aug 21 19:52 |
CrystalMath | i hear he was arrested in crimea recently | Aug 21 19:52 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: The funky thing about him is, as he self-proclaims, he is trying not to lie. | Aug 21 19:52 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Oh yea, he was trying to go to the front. | Aug 21 19:52 |
techrights-news | How To Install KDE Plasma on Fedora 36 - idroot ⚓ https://idroot.us/install-kde-plasma-fedora-36/ ䷉ Source: ID Root | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//idroot.us/install-kde-plasma-fedora-36/ | Aug 21 19:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-idroot.us | How To Install KDE Plasma on Fedora 36 - idroot | Aug 21 19:53 | |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Apparently he's trying to get involved in order to gain back some influence. | Aug 21 19:53 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Anyway, again, this discussion started over that this man started the war. | Aug 21 19:54 |
XRevan86 | The first shot fired. | Aug 21 19:54 |
XRevan86 | And he is not even a Donbas national, he arrived from Russia, where he served FSB. | Aug 21 19:55 |
CrystalMath | euromaidan is also a form of coercion against the people, it's a shot at democracy, a fatal one | Aug 21 20:00 |
MinceR | that's bullshit | Aug 21 20:00 |
MinceR | euromaidan happened before putler's puppets took over and destroyed the democracy before that | Aug 21 20:00 |
MinceR | and everything that happened since proves that too | Aug 21 20:01 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: the 2010 election was confirmed to be "free and fair" by virtually everyone | Aug 21 20:01 |
MinceR | they hand that rating out very lightly | Aug 21 20:01 |
MinceR | probably because every republic is deeply flawed | Aug 21 20:01 |
CrystalMath | either every republic is lying... or maybe... just maybe... the people of east ukraine really did vote in Yanukovich for all of ukraine | Aug 21 20:02 |
CrystalMath | remember, according to you, i don't exist - i would always vote pro-Putin | Aug 21 20:02 |
CrystalMath | because i want to support a world in which the taliban are free to run their country the way they want to | Aug 21 20:03 |
CrystalMath | meanwhile, you want to "kill them" (sic) | Aug 21 20:03 |
MinceR | i wonder how you mental-gymnasticked that together | Aug 21 20:03 |
CrystalMath | <@MinceR> i'd prefer to just kill them | Aug 21 20:04 |
CrystalMath | the mental gymnastics of a direct quote :P | Aug 21 20:04 |
MinceR | how does that quote mean that you don't exist? | Aug 21 20:04 |
CrystalMath | you basically believe that it's impossible for Putin to win a fair election, and that pro-russian voters don't exist | Aug 21 20:05 |
CrystalMath | even while talking to one | Aug 21 20:05 |
MinceR | putler never tried to win a fair election | Aug 21 20:06 |
MinceR | he was the successor yeltsin was persuaded to pick for himself | Aug 21 20:06 |
MinceR | also, afaik you don't get to vote for vladolf anyway | Aug 21 20:06 |
CrystalMath | well, it was Yanukovich more specifically, but everybody knew (since there was a whole orange revolution against him in 2004) that he is basically Putin | Aug 21 20:06 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: At least he actually could theoretically lose that first one, even if it was rigged. | Aug 21 20:06 |
MinceR | "he could theoretically lose" is CrystalMath's preferred standard | Aug 21 20:07 |
XRevan86 | It was the first and last election, rigged or not. | Aug 21 20:07 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: the EU monitored everything, because pro-EU forces were in power | Aug 21 20:07 |
XRevan86 | * rigged or otherwise | Aug 21 20:07 |
CrystalMath | pro-EU forces had ALL the power to intimidate people into voting pro-EU | Aug 21 20:07 |
MinceR | that's funny | Aug 21 20:07 |
MinceR | reading that from an alleged EU member | Aug 21 20:07 |
CrystalMath | anti-EU forces just... existed, and voted anti-EU, and WON | Aug 21 20:07 |
MinceR | knowing about how elections are orchestrated here | Aug 21 20:08 |
MinceR | my life probably wouldn't be nearly as squalid if the EU was anywhere near as powerful as you keep insisting it is | Aug 21 20:08 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: so you think EU officials from brussels skewed things in Putin's favor? | Aug 21 20:08 |
MinceR | granted, orban and his pals wouldn't have as much money to throw around and brag about | Aug 21 20:08 |
CrystalMath | all under the watch of strongly anti-russian west ukrainians? | Aug 21 20:08 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: i have yet to see evidence that they skewed things in any way | Aug 21 20:09 |
CrystalMath | okay, so Yanukovich, a previously proven pro-russian, won the election fair and square | Aug 21 20:09 |
CrystalMath | what gave anyone the right to take him down by force? | Aug 21 20:09 |
CrystalMath | the EU and its mindless libtard minions in eastern europe never win with a ballot box, but only with an ammo box... | Aug 21 20:12 |
CrystalMath | that's what they did in moldova | Aug 21 20:12 |
CrystalMath | and what they did in ukraine, except for two parts that tried to get away from it | Aug 21 20:12 |
CrystalMath | crimea and the donbass | Aug 21 20:12 |
MinceR | that's an interesting twist on the truth | Aug 21 20:12 |
MinceR | considering how the "referendum" in crimea actually went | Aug 21 20:13 |
MinceR | with no choice to leave things as they were, and "voting" under military threat and occupation | Aug 21 20:13 |
MinceR | i don't know why i don't just ignore you | Aug 21 20:13 |
CrystalMath | results: ~70% voted yes, ~30% did not vote (let's even say they're all against, even) | Aug 21 20:13 |
MinceR | you predictably spout standard ruscist propaganda all the time | Aug 21 20:13 |
XRevan86 | Churov 146% conduced the refendum, surely it wouldn't be falsified. | Aug 21 20:14 |
XRevan86 | "conduced the refendum" <- Heh. Conducted the referendum. | Aug 21 20:14 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: you talk about wanting to kill people in afghanistan... it's so sad for me to hear that from someone i consider a friend :( | Aug 21 20:15 |
CrystalMath | *considered | Aug 21 20:15 |
techrights-news | There is already IFF in India, but EFF could be called IFF, i for ignorant or worse. Because they pushed out their best people. | Aug 21 20:17 |
CrystalMath | i remember when people here were pro-Assange | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | overwhelmingly | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | and now it's "he took down Hillary so that Putin would win" | Aug 21 20:18 |
schestowitz[TR] | here? | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | (DaemonFC's idea) | Aug 21 20:18 |
schestowitz[TR] | also, here or in general? | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | on Techrights | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | in general, they still are | Aug 21 20:18 |
CrystalMath | at least where i live, it's normal to be pro-Assange, but also pro-Putin | Aug 21 20:19 |
CrystalMath | most probably aren't for wars (my guess), and i'm against wars, but pro-Putin in the sense of the things he says about a multipolar world | Aug 21 20:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 20:20 |
CrystalMath | we need a multipolar world in which america can't just spread its evil with no contest or resistance | Aug 21 20:20 |
schestowitz[TR] | evil versus evil is still evil | Aug 21 20:20 |
schestowitz[TR] | and assange and putin are orthogonal | Aug 21 20:20 |
XRevan86 | Russia is too rotten to be a polus in any multi-polar world. | Aug 21 20:20 |
XRevan86 | Ironically, a pro-Putin position is against multi-polarity. | Aug 21 20:21 |
techrights-news | Xi Jinping’s Radical Secrecy https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2022/08/china-xi-jinping-biography-opacity/671195/?utm_source=feed | Aug 21 20:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | Xi Jinping’s Radical Secrecy - The Atlantic | Aug 21 20:21 | |
heureka | i wouldn't say America or USA, instead the Pentagon/Washington and related internationally organized-crime cartell | Aug 21 20:21 |
techrights-news | YouTube disrupted in Pakistan as former PM Khan streams speech - NetBlocks ⚓ https://netblocks.org/reports/youtube-disrupted-in-pakistan-as-former-pm-khan-streams-speech-XADMq6Bg ䷉ Source: Netblocks | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//netblocks.org/reports/youtube-disrupted-in-pakistan-as-former-pm-khan-streams-speech-XADMq6Bg | Aug 21 20:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-netblocks.org | YouTube disrupted in Pakistan as former PM Khan streams speech - NetBlocks | Aug 21 20:21 | |
heureka | and their "five eyes" industrial espionage grid | Aug 21 20:21 |
techrights-news | How ’Slaughterhouse-Five’ Became a Repeated Target of Book Burners ⚓ https://reason.com/2022/08/21/slaughterhouse-five/ ䷉ Source: Reason | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/2022/08/21/slaughterhouse-five/ | Aug 21 20:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | How 'Slaughterhouse-Five' Became a Repeated Target of Book Burners | Aug 21 20:22 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: he basically gets support because he appears to be anti-american / anti-NATO | Aug 21 20:23 |
XRevan86 | Prediction for the next 10-20 years: Russia will not be able to hold on to the territories Putin annexed. | Aug 21 20:23 |
techrights-news | How Stalin Toyed With Mikhail Bulgakov ⚓ https://reason.com/2022/08/20/the-master-and-margarita/ ䷉ Source: Reason | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/2022/08/20/the-master-and-margarita/ | Aug 21 20:23 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | How Stalin Toyed With Mikhail Bulgakov | Aug 21 20:23 | |
heureka | that's what i think is slightly confusing with Putin, his public speeches, and behind the scenes shaking hands of Rosneft/Gasprom and those industry CEOs in germany | Aug 21 20:23 |
XRevan86 | It's not even a matter of whether Putin succeeds in this world. | Aug 21 20:23 |
XRevan86 | * in this war | Aug 21 20:23 |
heureka | since in germany, the high ranking industry CEO, media and political positions are all hijacked and subverted by those atlantic bridge washington minions | Aug 21 20:23 |
heureka | and those are the ones Putin shakes hands with for energy and gas business | Aug 21 20:24 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: you think crimea would secede, or that russia would get invaded? | Aug 21 20:24 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: 1 | Aug 21 20:24 |
*CrystalMath shrugs... they seemed pretty pro-russian patriotic to me | Aug 21 20:24 | |
XRevan86 | Maybe both. | Aug 21 20:24 |
techrights-news | South Carolina Targets Free Speech To Limit Abortion Access ⚓ https://reason.com/2022/08/19/south-carolina-targets-free-speech-in-its-attempt-to-limit-abortion-access/ ䷉ Source: Reason | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/2022/08/19/south-carolina-targets-free-speech-in-its-attempt-to-limit-abortion-access/ | Aug 21 20:24 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | South Carolina Targets Free Speech To Limit Abortion Access | Aug 21 20:24 | |
XRevan86 | Russia is getting weaker and more freaky and controlling. | Aug 21 20:25 |
XRevan86 | that can't end well | Aug 21 20:25 |
schestowitz[TR] | XRevan86: this also diescribes US | Aug 21 20:25 |
schestowitz[TR] | the world in general may be rotting | Aug 21 20:25 |
schestowitz[TR] | but the rot is relative | Aug 21 20:25 |
XRevan86 | schestowitz: Very relative. | Aug 21 20:25 |
techrights-news | End Times in Aspen: How to Kill a Newspaper - The Atlantic ⚓ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/aspen-times-newspaper-vladislav-doronin-billionaire-lawsuit/671180/?utm_source=feed ䷉ Source: The Atlantic | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/aspen-times-newspaper-vladislav-doronin-billionaire-lawsuit/671180/?utm_source=feed | Aug 21 20:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theatlantic.com | End Times in Aspen: How to Kill a Newspaper - The Atlantic | Aug 21 20:26 | |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: i remember op-eds on CNN that admitted the people of crimea want to be a part of russia | Aug 21 20:28 |
CrystalMath | in 2014 | Aug 21 20:28 |
techrights-news | Pro-China pundit's admission to owning a house in California sparks backlash — Radio Free Asia ⚓ https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/pundit-usa-house-08182022120956.html ䷉ Source: Verfassungsblog | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.rfa.org/english/news/china/pundit-usa-house-08182022120956.html | Aug 21 20:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.rfa.org | Pro-China pundit's admission to owning a house in California sparks backlash — Radio Free Asia | Aug 21 20:28 | |
heureka | that's why i fail to recognize any "pro-Putin" position, because the Rosneft/Gasprom business of his and his associates is just that, business and cash flow | Aug 21 20:28 |
techrights-news | Salman Rushdie’s Stabbing Should Remind Us That Free Speech Is a Nonnegotiable Progressive Value ⚓ https://jacobin.com/2022/08/salman-rushdie-stabbing-free-speech-socialist-politics-progressive-value/ ䷉ Source: Jacobin Magazine | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//jacobin.com/2022/08/salman-rushdie-stabbing-free-speech-socialist-politics-progressive-value/ | Aug 21 20:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jacobin.com | Salman Rushdie’s Stabbing Should Remind Us That Free Speech Is a Nonnegotiable Progressive Value | Aug 21 20:29 | |
techrights-news | The Satanic Panic Is Back, and It’s Bipartisan ⚓ https://reason.com/2022/08/18/the-satanic-panic-is-back-and-its-bipartisan/ ䷉ Source: Reason | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//reason.com/2022/08/18/the-satanic-panic-is-back-and-its-bipartisan/ | Aug 21 20:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | The Satanic Panic Is Back, and It's Bipartisan | Aug 21 20:29 | |
heureka | recently, among "social democrats" in German, one or another "scandal" is boiled up again | Aug 21 20:30 |
heureka | such as Chancellor Scholz (Warburg Bank, atlantic bridge), at the same time close affiliate of Schroeder/Putin/Rosneft/Gasprom | Aug 21 20:30 |
techrights-news | Free Speech Bastion Substack Fires Editor for Editing a Blog Critical of Substack ⚓ https://www.vice.com/en/article/5d3988/free-speech-bastion-substack-fires-editor-for-editing-a-blog-critical-of-substack ䷉ Source: Wallanag | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.vice.com/en/article/5d3988/free-speech-bastion-substack-fires-editor-for-editing-a-blog-critical-of-substack | Aug 21 20:30 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vice.com | Free Speech Bastion Substack Fires Editor for Editing a Blog Critical of Substack | Aug 21 20:30 | |
heureka | this recent scandal ignited... over "cum-ex tax fraud", the biggest tax fraud in EU history... | Aug 21 20:31 |
heureka | that's the chancellor | Aug 21 20:31 |
techrights-news | "People have been trying to ban Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird since the 1960s. And since the 1960s, they have largely failed." https://reason.com/2022/08/18/to-kill-a-mockingbird/ | Aug 21 20:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-reason.com | The Failed Campaign To Ban 'To Kill a Mockingbird' | Aug 21 20:31 | |
heureka | although it was said the Russian-German relations cooled down due to this | Aug 21 20:31 |
heureka | that's the difficulty with "pro-Putin", he is/was closely entangled into this realm of german politics | Aug 21 20:32 |
techrights-news | The Stabbing of Salman Rushdie Renews Free Speech Debates - The New York Times ⚓ https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/arts/salman-rushdie-free-speech.html ䷉ Source: New York Times | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/arts/salman-rushdie-free-speech.html | Aug 21 20:32 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | The Stabbing of Salman Rushdie Renews Free Speech Debates - The New York Times | Aug 21 20:32 | |
heureka | and the oil/gas business | Aug 21 20:32 |
CrystalMath | heureka: Putin may not be the hero we want, maybe he's not even the hero we need, but we have no one else standing up to NATO... | Aug 21 20:33 |
CrystalMath | without him, democracy in Syria would have been destroyed | Aug 21 20:33 |
CrystalMath | we know that for sure | Aug 21 20:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | democracy in Syria? | Aug 21 20:34 |
schestowitz[TR] | who is in charge in Syria? | Aug 21 20:34 |
schestowitz[TR] | how many years for? | Aug 21 20:34 |
heureka | anyway, this german politics (social democrats) Putin is entangled with, that's mostly the Atlantic Bridge Washingtom dominated corrupt cartell | Aug 21 20:34 |
schestowitz[TR] | Can you define democracy in Syria? | Aug 21 20:34 |
CrystalMath | Bashar-el-Assad, the representative of the people | Aug 21 20:34 |
schestowitz[TR] | lol | Aug 21 20:34 |
CrystalMath | america was trying to take him out | Aug 21 20:34 |
schestowitz[TR] | like putin | Aug 21 20:35 |
schestowitz[TR] | representative of the people | Aug 21 20:35 |
schestowitz[TR] | what people? | Aug 21 20:35 |
schestowitz[TR] | the crooks | Aug 21 20:35 |
XRevan86 | "but we have no one else standing up to NATO" <- Would be a shame if Finland and Sweden were to join NATO with no opposition from Putin. | Aug 21 20:35 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: no, it would just be honest of them | Aug 21 20:35 |
XRevan86 | de-Finlandisation of Finland | Aug 21 20:36 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: sweden already did that long ago | Aug 21 20:36 |
CrystalMath | they invented a new finland | Aug 21 20:36 |
heureka | anyway, this german government, whom Putin is/was befriended with, i am not at least worth some office space to work, in _my_ homeland | Aug 21 20:36 |
heureka | although, i am not pointing fingers at Putin, it's the criminals in germany who Putin is/was befriended with | Aug 21 20:37 |
heureka | and i am not thinking of former Chancellor Schroeder either in this case | Aug 21 20:37 |
XRevan86 | "although, i am not pointing fingers at Putin, it's the criminals in germany who Putin is/was befriended with" <- That's his modus operandi. | Aug 21 20:38 |
CrystalMath | heureka: Putin has shown that he's willing to work with some rather nasty people at times | Aug 21 20:38 |
XRevan86 | So point fingers away. | Aug 21 20:38 |
heureka | "social democrats" wanted to expell former Chancellor Schroeder from "social democrats" recently, former Chancellor Schroeder hasn't got an office anymore either in Germany | Aug 21 20:38 |
heureka | CrystalMath: i don't thin Chancellor Schroeder is the problem, it's the political parties in Germany: "social democrats", "greens" etc. | Aug 21 20:39 |
CrystalMath | heureka: yeah, the greens are the ones pushing the most of the anti-freedom agenda | Aug 21 20:39 |
*DaemonFC (~daemonfc@mvbitbkzkjyau.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 20:39 | |
CrystalMath | in the name of climate change | Aug 21 20:39 |
heureka | and it's no coincidence either, AfD seeked closer relations with Russia, simply because all other political parties here are just insane | Aug 21 20:39 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], GULAG Tube canceled the Cook County Judge's Office channel. | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/youtube-account-of-the-cook-county-judges-office-disabled | Aug 21 20:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fox32chicago.com | YouTube account of the Cook County Judge's office disabled | Aug 21 20:40 | |
CrystalMath | heureka: btw, tell me, is it true what they say here about germany, that your government is telling people to shower less because of the climate? | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | "COOK COUNTY, Ill. - The YouTube account of the Cook County Judge's Office was disabled Friday. | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | The account is used to provide public access to court proceedings. | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | The office was notified by Google that it was disabled due to ‘unspecified violations of unspecified YouTube Community Guidelines.’ | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | According to the Office of the Chief Judge, it is not aware of any instance that would have led to the account being disabled." | Aug 21 20:40 |
schestowitz[TR] | they should not outsource in the first place | Aug 21 20:40 |
schestowitz[TR] | certainly not to gulag | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | "However, the office did note that court proceedings are sometimes graphic in nature and may not be suitable for all audiences. | Aug 21 20:40 |
DaemonFC | The office has filed an appeal with YouTube." | Aug 21 20:40 |
heureka | CrystalMath: that's all propaganda rubbish | Aug 21 20:40 |
CrystalMath | heureka: okay, so they're not doing that | Aug 21 20:41 |
CrystalMath | it was said by some people in serbian talk shows | Aug 21 20:41 |
heureka | the contracts germany industry and russia have have fixed prices, meaning even if consumption is lowered, then cashflow into Russia remains | Aug 21 20:41 |
CrystalMath | heureka: yes but did some idiots say it anyway? | Aug 21 20:41 |
CrystalMath | i mean of course it won't work | Aug 21 20:41 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], I have no idea why my mom has to be so horrible. | Aug 21 20:41 |
heureka | and as far as "climate" was concerned i had many other ideas, for germany | Aug 21 20:41 |
DaemonFC | I told her almost 800 Starbucks stores are now unionized. | Aug 21 20:42 |
heureka | CrystalMath: i couldn't afford a daily shower anymore even if i wanted to | Aug 21 20:42 |
DaemonFC | And she laughed while mentioning at least one store closed and moved a block down and said they were all fired. | Aug 21 20:42 |
heureka | nor could i affor a car, office space to work, or at least to go on holidays after 20 years | Aug 21 20:42 |
heureka | however, i don't think it is Putin/Russia at fault | Aug 21 20:42 |
DaemonFC | I said, "So, you're laughing that a bunch of low wage workers got screwed by a multibillion dollar company that makes $8 coffees and openly breaks the law?". | Aug 21 20:42 |
DaemonFC | I hate Starbucks. | Aug 21 20:45 |
DaemonFC | If you want shitty fast food coffee, go to McDonalds. At least it's only like $3 there. | Aug 21 20:45 |
DaemonFC | But I mean, it's not like coffee is hard. | Aug 21 20:45 |
DaemonFC | We used to just set the coffee maker to let 'er rip 20 minutes before we had to leave the house and grab a to-go mug on the way to work and it cost 20 cents. | Aug 21 20:46 |
DaemonFC | What the hell is wrong with people today? | Aug 21 20:46 |
DaemonFC | I'm not saying the union will work out well for Starbucks workers. In fact, I think it won't. But the law says they have the right to do that, and Starbucks is breaking the law. | Aug 21 20:47 |
DaemonFC | So something ought to happen to Starbucks. | Aug 21 20:47 |
DaemonFC | And I don't even understand why they're afraid of the union. It's the workers who will realize they made an error. | Aug 21 20:48 |
DaemonFC | The company has the majority of the bargaining power either way and so I mean, the people who pay for the union are the employees. It comes out of their checks. | Aug 21 20:48 |
phanes | im okay with starbucks going away forever. i have my own espresso machine. :/ | Aug 21 20:48 |
DaemonFC | Chances are they get what they get now or maybe just slightly more but it's in a contract instead of just corporate policy. | Aug 21 20:49 |
phanes | in fact owning an espresso machine in a starbucksless world merely adds to my BDE | Aug 21 20:49 |
DaemonFC | People think I'm some sort of a Republican extremist or something and they have me totally wrong. You know, Libertarianism supports freedom of association. Isn't that what a union should be? I'm not in favor of this anti-Right To Work law in Illinois. | Aug 21 20:51 |
MinceR | 21 211807 < CrystalMath> i remember when people here were pro-Assange | Aug 21 20:51 |
techrights-news | Adding Git listing of TuxMachines to its Gemini capsule. This might take a few hours... | Aug 21 20:51 |
DaemonFC | It's already the second worst business climate in America. | Aug 21 20:51 |
MinceR | right, the correct course would have been becoming putler supporters to follow him. | Aug 21 20:51 |
DaemonFC | And what workers don't seem to get is when you make a hostile business climate, it hurts you too. | Aug 21 20:51 |
MinceR | 21 212013 < CrystalMath> we need a multipolar world in which america can't just spread its evil with no contest or resistance | Aug 21 20:51 |
MinceR | your wish is granted. | Aug 21 20:51 |
DaemonFC | When there's higher unemployment in your state, the employers have more people who need a job and will work for anything. | Aug 21 20:52 |
DaemonFC | People become more desperate. Crime goes up. | Aug 21 20:52 |
MinceR | "nothing's changed." "correct." | Aug 21 20:52 |
DaemonFC | The state encourages criminal activity with high unemployment and high taxes. | Aug 21 20:52 |
DaemonFC | Nobody wants to pay $15 a pack for cigarettes in Chicago, so they just use illegal arbitrage. | Aug 21 20:52 |
DaemonFC | They buy them a few miles away and come sell them for $11 a pack and they still make a $5 a pack profit (less the cost of going to get them). | Aug 21 20:53 |
DaemonFC | There's the chance the cops bust them for a misdemeanor, but chances are they couldn't get a job anyway because the business climate is bad. | Aug 21 20:54 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: how is being pro-Assange automatically pro-Putin? | Aug 21 20:54 |
MinceR | ask yourself | Aug 21 20:54 |
CrystalMath | i mean i said it coincides here, but that's here, we are anti-western in general | Aug 21 20:54 |
MinceR | it was your "point" | Aug 21 20:54 |
MinceR | how many of you are anti-western? | Aug 21 20:54 |
CrystalMath | being pro-Assange necessarily means being anti-NATO | Aug 21 20:54 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: our president said 85% | Aug 21 20:54 |
DaemonFC | They're not wiping out smoking in Cook County. They're wiping out the tax revenue that would pay for the increased health expenditures. | Aug 21 20:54 |
MinceR | so, 85% of CrystalMath is anti-western | Aug 21 20:54 |
DaemonFC | And giving Indiana a tax surplus. | Aug 21 20:54 |
MinceR | that's not even a whole person. | Aug 21 20:55 |
DaemonFC | They get tax money for smokers who don't even live in Indiana or cost them anything. | Aug 21 20:55 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: that would also mean there is a president of CrystalMath :P | Aug 21 20:55 |
DaemonFC | Anti-smoking campaigns are kind of dumb at a certain point. | Aug 21 20:55 |
CrystalMath | of course i meant serbia | Aug 21 20:55 |
MinceR | if CrystalMath wants to have a president, sure | Aug 21 20:55 |
phanes | we need more american exceptionalism in the world not less | Aug 21 20:55 |
MinceR | is serbia in this channel? | Aug 21 20:55 |
DaemonFC | You can educate people about the risks. You can tax them to a certain extent to cover their cost to the system. | Aug 21 20:55 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it's a different meaning of "here" | Aug 21 20:56 |
DaemonFC | You can't force them to stop. They'll figure out a way around your taxes before they'll stop. | Aug 21 20:56 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i used the word "here" twice in a row but meaning completely different things, i guess | Aug 21 20:56 |
MinceR | we don't need exceptionalism, we need humanity to actually live up to the ideals it keeps spouting are characteristic of it | Aug 21 20:56 |
MinceR | less "we are so intelligent", more actually being intelligent | Aug 21 20:56 |
phanes | MinceR, can't do that without a unified government that sucks a whole lot before it doesn't | Aug 21 20:56 |
MinceR | less "we are so civilized", more actually being civilized | Aug 21 20:56 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has left #techrights | Aug 21 20:56 | |
CrystalMath | phanes: i absolutely completely disagree | Aug 21 20:56 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, "Civilization" is just a giant smog filled cesspit filled with people shitting on the open sidewalk. | Aug 21 20:57 |
CrystalMath | anyway, how's it going? | Aug 21 20:57 |
DaemonFC | Ask Matthew J GULAG. | Aug 21 20:57 |
MinceR | less "this state is so perfect and so free", more actually being free (individuals -- it's not applicable to anything else) | Aug 21 20:57 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: lol | Aug 21 20:57 |
MinceR | we don't need nationalism, we need humanism | Aug 21 20:57 |
phanes | you'll never merge the wills of the kalaidoscope of wills of the countries of the world, and trying to will only create atrocity. there would need to be hierarchal government system in place that constrains every would-be dictator | Aug 21 20:57 |
MinceR | and we need a human species actually worthy of humanism | Aug 21 20:57 |
phanes | CrystalMath, its going, too much work and not enough play time these days | Aug 21 20:58 |
MinceR | countries don't have wills | Aug 21 20:58 |
MinceR | people have wills | Aug 21 20:58 |
DaemonFC | And you know what I say to people shitting on the sidewalk in front of Mr. GAFAM's $800,000 cracker box? | Aug 21 20:58 |
MinceR | dictators have wills | Aug 21 20:58 |
DaemonFC | "Happy shitting!" | Aug 21 20:58 |
MinceR | and the dictators' wills need to be extinguished. | Aug 21 20:58 |
CrystalMath | phanes: that doesn't sound like a world government... | Aug 21 20:58 |
MinceR | and no, there's no need for hierarchies, there's only need for civilization | Aug 21 20:58 |
phanes | civilization is designed and is a direct result of power structures | Aug 21 20:58 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, You pay $4,000 a month in San Francisco and you get to share a sleeping room with 3 other people and a bathroom as well. | Aug 21 20:59 |
DaemonFC | People you don't even know. | Aug 21 20:59 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▄▃▄▂▁▃▂▂▃▁▂▁▁▄▁▃▄▂▃▄▆▇▅▅▃▁▁▂▃▁▁▂▅▃▂▃▁▁ avg(k/sec) 24.56 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▁█▇█▁▁▁▁██▆▇▁█▂▁▁▂▁▁█▅█▁▃▁▁▁▁▁▁▇▁ avg(k/sec) 104.80▕ swarm size (avg): 105.63 ⟲ | Aug 21 20:59 |
CrystalMath | phanes: i think people should have alternative civilizations, generally i want more decentralization | Aug 21 20:59 |
CrystalMath | more cultures should have zero contact with others | Aug 21 20:59 |
phanes | in all of human history every civilization has been an artifact of their power structures | Aug 21 20:59 |
DaemonFC | I'm not spending $50,000 a year to get conditions that compare with a halfway house or an army barracks. | Aug 21 20:59 |
MinceR | no, power structures result only in the absence of civilization | Aug 21 21:00 |
phanes | thats absurd | Aug 21 21:00 |
MinceR | the only things that can lead to civilization are voluntary cooperation and respect for each other's freedom | Aug 21 21:00 |
phanes | you think there would've been a hitler if he had a board he reported to that controlled the armies of the world | Aug 21 21:01 |
MinceR | funny how CrystalMath is dreaming about alternative civilizations when our species can't even implement one of them | Aug 21 21:01 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, You mean the government running off with my money to pay for someone to get a degree an transgender studies. | Aug 21 21:01 |
MinceR | i think as long as humans keep falling for the lies of sociopaths, the likes of hitler will persist | Aug 21 21:01 |
phanes | in order to bring out the best of humanity, systematically that is, you need to account and structure for, the worst of humanity | Aug 21 21:01 |
DaemonFC | I volunteered to cooperate with debt cancellation when I signed the social contract. | Aug 21 21:02 |
MinceR | if i account for the worst of humanity, the only thing i see is certain extinction | Aug 21 21:02 |
MinceR | i doubt humanity will be able to overcome its own demons, ever | Aug 21 21:02 |
*psydruid (~psydruid@jevhxkzmtrbww.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 21:02 | |
DaemonFC | MinceR, It's a major event. | Aug 21 21:02 |
DaemonFC | On the month of your 18th birthday when reaching adulthood, they give you a neat pen. | Aug 21 21:02 |
DaemonFC | And you go to a convention center nearby and sign the Social Contract. | Aug 21 21:03 |
DaemonFC | And you get to keep the pen for good luck. | Aug 21 21:03 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: i haven't even seen the "social contract" | Aug 21 21:03 |
MinceR | and it's a hoax anyway | Aug 21 21:03 |
CrystalMath | phanes: since there is no right way to live, we must have a diversity of belief systems | Aug 21 21:03 |
MinceR | the greatest hoax ever | Aug 21 21:03 |
schestowitz[TR] | antisocial contact | Aug 21 21:03 |
CrystalMath | no system should prevail over others by force | Aug 21 21:03 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, That's because they make you drink something that makes you forget what you signed so they can change the Social Contract whenever they want to. | Aug 21 21:03 |
DaemonFC | And you don't even have to go sign another one. | Aug 21 21:03 |
MinceR | and CrystalMath will decide which tens of millions are sacrificed so that certain people can have their preferred way of life | Aug 21 21:03 |
DaemonFC | Isn't that nice? | Aug 21 21:03 |
phanes | you cannot have civilization without some degree of force | Aug 21 21:04 |
MinceR | sure you can | Aug 21 21:04 |
MinceR | you just need people that are capable of civilization | Aug 21 21:04 |
DaemonFC | The government is responsible for a lot of what liberals call "gun crime". | Aug 21 21:04 |
CrystalMath | phanes: we should not have just one civilization | Aug 21 21:04 |
CrystalMath | phanes: but many | Aug 21 21:04 |
DaemonFC | By making life so intolerable that people go insane and start shooting. | Aug 21 21:04 |
phanes | then what you are describing is the wonton murder of undesirables and non-conformists and that makes your position objectively evil | Aug 21 21:05 |
DaemonFC | Then the liberal solution is to just take the guns away. | Aug 21 21:05 |
phanes | MinceR, | Aug 21 21:05 |
MinceR | does "gun crime" include the crimes the government commits against the people outside the government, using guns? | Aug 21 21:05 |
MinceR | no, that is not what i am describing | Aug 21 21:05 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, No, that's all justifiable if they even investigate it at all. | Aug 21 21:05 |
CrystalMath | what MinceR is saying about me is obviously false | Aug 21 21:05 |
MinceR | and no, the opposite of global totalitarianism is not "objectively evil" | Aug 21 21:05 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: everything can be justified in words | Aug 21 21:05 |
MinceR | CrystalMath has given us great examples of it | Aug 21 21:06 |
phanes | civilization requires leadership | Aug 21 21:06 |
phanes | and force | Aug 21 21:06 |
MinceR | no, it doesn't | Aug 21 21:06 |
DaemonFC | MinceR, The people who are in government from the elections with only one candidate wrote those laws! | Aug 21 21:06 |
DaemonFC | They're totally legitimate laws. | Aug 21 21:06 |
MinceR | people suffering from the authoritarian personality type require leadership and force | Aug 21 21:06 |
DaemonFC | You take that back! | Aug 21 21:06 |
MinceR | masochists require force | Aug 21 21:06 |
MinceR | civilized people do not | Aug 21 21:06 |
phanes | anarcho capitalism will never form because of the inescapable flaws of the human heart | Aug 21 21:06 |
heureka | currently, german government tries to shift blame onto Putin/Russia, for the excess price inflation for Oil/Gas/Food | Aug 21 21:07 |
heureka | propaganda rubbish | Aug 21 21:07 |
MinceR | the people i know going around telling everyone they're "anarcho-capitalist" are neither anarchists nor capitalists, they're ruscists | Aug 21 21:07 |
MinceR | and yes, my point is that the flaws of the human mind make civilization and survival unattainable | Aug 21 21:07 |
DaemonFC | The inflation is from corrupt Western governments dumping a total of $10 trillion or so in excess spending after the bullshit COVID lockdowns. | Aug 21 21:07 |
MinceR | and humanity had better get its shit together and fix itself real quick if it wants a shot at survival | Aug 21 21:08 |
DaemonFC | And now they're on about Monkeypox, which is an STD that spreads through SEMEN. | Aug 21 21:08 |
MinceR | DaemonFC: you can't spell "advertisements" without semen between the tits! | Aug 21 21:08 |
heureka | truth is, EU established some "trading hub" for Oil/Gas, this is where prices explode; instead the contracts of german industry with russia are long-term contracts with stable prices | Aug 21 21:08 |
DaemonFC | The WHO even admits it, though the US CDC says "skin to skin" because they don't want to piss off gays in an election year. | Aug 21 21:08 |
phanes | civilization also requires justice, which requires a degree of force to even implement | Aug 21 21:08 |
DaemonFC | The Democrats are not expected to do well and the last thing they want to admit is there's another gay disease and this one makes your flesh rot. | Aug 21 21:09 |
CrystalMath | phanes: there just isn't a right way to live though, there is no absolute truth that we know of, and no absolute good | Aug 21 21:09 |
MinceR | that force can be distributed | Aug 21 21:09 |
Helenah | CrystalMath: o.o | Aug 21 21:09 |
CrystalMath | phanes: that's why i still hope america is stopped | Aug 21 21:09 |
*Helenah gives CrystalMath a hamper of chocolates | Aug 21 21:09 | |
*Helenah gives MinceR a hamper of chocolates | Aug 21 21:09 | |
*Helenah gives DaemonFC a hamper of chocolates | Aug 21 21:09 | |
*Helenah gives phanes a hamper of chocolates | Aug 21 21:09 | |
CrystalMath | hi Helenah, thanks :) | Aug 21 21:09 |
*Helenah gives heureka a hamper of chocolates | Aug 21 21:09 | |
MinceR | chocolates are nice, but they don't fix humanity | Aug 21 21:09 |
phanes | CrystalMath, the summum bonum? sure, there's no consensus but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist | Aug 21 21:09 |
Helenah | True, MinceR :3 | Aug 21 21:09 |
phanes | some would argue the categorical imperative is close to absolute good | Aug 21 21:10 |
CrystalMath | phanes: i strongly believe humans are ignorant of what the true way is, that's why we need to have different alternative civilizations, preferably ones that are isolationists | Aug 21 21:11 |
MinceR | baby steps | Aug 21 21:11 |
phanes | its like clocks and time. sure, clocks dont measure time; the only measure of a clock is the subjective measurement of another clock. that doesn't mean time doesn't exist. even if it didn't, it is something we are bound to by the nature of what we are -- so, even if time did not exist we would still use it. | Aug 21 21:11 |
MinceR | let's build one civilization | Aug 21 21:11 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it's pointless to chase after something that does not exist | Aug 21 21:11 |
CrystalMath | there is no true meaning to life | Aug 21 21:11 |
MinceR | the meaning is whatever one chooses | Aug 21 21:12 |
CrystalMath | phanes: time is actually relative to the observer | Aug 21 21:12 |
CrystalMath | phanes: much like "good" | Aug 21 21:12 |
phanes | i think its also important to bear in mind as well that there is a strong difference between fitness and accuracy | Aug 21 21:12 |
phanes | we chase accuracy but we evolved to make decisions based on fitness reward | Aug 21 21:12 |
MinceR | we evolved to die out | Aug 21 21:13 |
phanes | in fact the more accurately perceptions reflect reality the less survivability the perceiving species has | Aug 21 21:13 |
phanes | so sure, an anarchist society may even be closer to our freedom ideals with ideal humans | Aug 21 21:14 |
phanes | but it wouldn't be nearly fit enough to survive | Aug 21 21:14 |
phanes | we dont need more accuracy | Aug 21 21:14 |
phanes | we need to survive | Aug 21 21:14 |
*starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 21:15 | |
phanes | and then work in as much accuracy as survival will allow | Aug 21 21:15 |
phanes | it would take an incredibly strong and fit species to survive absolute truth | Aug 21 21:15 |
MinceR | if we don't develop into ideal humans, we're goners regardless | Aug 21 21:15 |
MinceR | also, if our society is not anarchist, that means that while we're on the way to painful extinction, some authoritarian idiots are going to keep trying to run my life for me | Aug 21 21:16 |
MinceR | thanks, but i'll pass | Aug 21 21:16 |
phanes | MinceR, not at all. That's what's so awesome about humans. They -don't- need to be ideal, they need to be -fit-. | Aug 21 21:16 |
MinceR | sadly, they aren't | Aug 21 21:16 |
phanes | not at the moment no | Aug 21 21:16 |
phanes | the west is fat and lazy and self-eating | Aug 21 21:16 |
MinceR | after several years of warnings that what we're doing will doom us, there's practically no change for the better | Aug 21 21:16 |
MinceR | after millennia of suffering due to authoritarianism and sociopaths, most of us still cling to authoritarianism and being ruled by sociopaths | Aug 21 21:17 |
phanes | in all fairness, illusions of doom have been mercilessly used to justify the enrichment and rise to power of many people | Aug 21 21:17 |
MinceR | 21 221645 < phanes> the west is fat and lazy and self-eating | Aug 21 21:17 |
phanes | our culture is stained with lies | Aug 21 21:17 |
DaemonFC | No, because you're giving warnings to the people who manage to drive their SUV over a set of concrete blocks that don't even align with the train intersection. | Aug 21 21:17 |
MinceR | and the east is mostly just a bunch of authoritarian shitholes that treat most people like slaves | Aug 21 21:17 |
CrystalMath | phanes: yes but that's why i want there to be different alternative civilizations pursuing very different ideals, and, preferably, being as independent as possible | Aug 21 21:17 |
phanes | CrystalMath, that's fine as long as those civilizations can be completely isolated from one another for perpetuity otherwise they will compete for dominance (or lose to others that do) | Aug 21 21:18 |
CrystalMath | phanes: well, a balance of power can keep a stalemate | Aug 21 21:18 |
MinceR | just terraform a bunch of planets | Aug 21 21:18 |
MinceR | oh wait | Aug 21 21:18 |
phanes | CrystalMath, yes a vertical power structure of unified civilizations | Aug 21 21:19 |
CrystalMath | well that's not really the same time | Aug 21 21:19 |
phanes | a single currency, a single army force, a single nation | Aug 21 21:19 |
CrystalMath | err, the same thing | Aug 21 21:19 |
CrystalMath | why is time on my mind | Aug 21 21:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | phanes: i don't think that would be good | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | i would like there to be a multipolar world | Aug 21 21:20 |
phanes | CrystalMath, well it would certainly make americans less wealthy | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | with several different currencies | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | none of which can defeat the others | Aug 21 21:20 |
phanes | our way of live depends on the exploitation of weaker countries in every way | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | it's actually better for there to be more than 2 such powers | Aug 21 21:20 |
CrystalMath | because if you have a 3-way multipolar world, you can have 2 stop the 1 that's trying to take more power | Aug 21 21:21 |
phanes | if you have 2 they will destroy the earth | Aug 21 21:21 |
phanes | if you have 3 there may be a careful balance until one falls into obscurity | Aug 21 21:21 |
phanes | ultimately there can be only one or none | Aug 21 21:21 |
CrystalMath | oh well, what's wrong with the world being destroyed anyway | Aug 21 21:21 |
MinceR | we already have 2 | Aug 21 21:21 |
MinceR | the "let's pretend we're running a functioning democracy" pole and the "let's maximize totalitarian oppression" pole | Aug 21 21:22 |
MinceR | what would the 3rd one be? | Aug 21 21:22 |
CrystalMath | anyway, what matters is that the taliban are finally free to live the way they want to | Aug 21 21:23 |
CrystalMath | long live the taliban! | Aug 21 21:23 |
MinceR | finally, another small group gets what they want at the expense of tens of millions | Aug 21 21:24 |
MinceR | CrystalMath got his way yet again | Aug 21 21:24 |
phanes | lets say humans become space-faring | Aug 21 21:25 |
MinceR | that's already a stretch | Aug 21 21:25 |
phanes | does anyone seriously believe the zero-tolerance of failure required to survive in a space colony, just due to environment where one person making a single mistake kills an entire colony, can be achieved with anything happening right now | Aug 21 21:26 |
CrystalMath | then it would be easy, there would be a taliban planet and a very powerful defense grid around it, protecting their way of life... but in which direction would they pray? since it needs to be towards Mecca... | Aug 21 21:26 |
phanes | someone will say "i dont have to do that, im free" and then not maintain the airlock and then you've got millions dead | Aug 21 21:26 |
CrystalMath | phanes: obviously one is still free if they can leave their job of maintaining the airlock | Aug 21 21:27 |
phanes | a corporation who supplies oxygen supply could deem the colony "default of credit" and stop sending air | Aug 21 21:27 |
MinceR | phanes: i don't believe it can be achieved with human sloppiness and evil | Aug 21 21:27 |
phanes | absolutely nothing we are doing right now in governance would survive in space | Aug 21 21:27 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: who would develop that "very powerful defense grid"? where is it written in the qur'an how to build a space defense gun, for example? | Aug 21 21:28 |
phanes | and i post this: many, many years from now the humans will have to go to space to continue the species. if we do not solve the governance problem that will be a short-lived endeadvour for those very reasons | Aug 21 21:28 |
phanes | *posit | Aug 21 21:28 |
phanes | so if youre going to plan for the inevitable future, plan around that | Aug 21 21:29 |
MinceR | humans are doomed as long as they require governance | Aug 21 21:29 |
phanes | sure it'll long after we're dead, but its a fixed point in our future | Aug 21 21:29 |
phanes | *it'll be | Aug 21 21:30 |
phanes | technology can't solve that | Aug 21 21:30 |
phanes | there will always be governance as long as there is genetic diversity | Aug 21 21:30 |
phanes | and cultural diversity* | Aug 21 21:31 |
phanes | and income disparity* | Aug 21 21:31 |
phanes | even then we probably would still need it | Aug 21 21:31 |
MinceR | then humanity is doomed | Aug 21 21:32 |
phanes | but that's not the clincher. what you're suggesting is that it's a decision people make -- it's not, MinceR. Humans naturally and instinctually form decision authority power models at all levels in a vacuum. | Aug 21 21:32 |
MinceR | and, unless it can quickly evolve intelligent and civilized life in less than a billion years, so's the rest of life on Earth | Aug 21 21:32 |
MinceR | no, it's probably not a decision | Aug 21 21:32 |
phanes | They want to hate their governance but they also desperately crave it | Aug 21 21:32 |
MinceR | it's just human nature | Aug 21 21:33 |
MinceR | the extreme vulnerability to sociopaths | Aug 21 21:33 |
MinceR | the extreme vulnerability to memetic pathogens | Aug 21 21:33 |
MinceR | probably also a lack of solidarity | Aug 21 21:33 |
phanes | in any case there's nothing to fight over between nations anymore if they're all the same nation | Aug 21 21:34 |
phanes | all the same currency | Aug 21 21:34 |
MinceR | humans will find a way to divide themselves | Aug 21 21:34 |
MinceR | when christianity became dominant enough in europe, they found elements of dogma to bicker over and to torture and kill people for | Aug 21 21:35 |
MinceR | wanting to kill other people over skin color or gender are also obvious human things to do | Aug 21 21:35 |
phanes | which is why | Aug 21 21:36 |
phanes | we need | Aug 21 21:36 |
phanes | governance | Aug 21 21:36 |
MinceR | and i've mentioned why governance won't help | Aug 21 21:37 |
MinceR | at least if it's made of humans | Aug 21 21:37 |
phanes | morality street cred doesn't go as far when you have a justice system | Aug 21 21:37 |
MinceR | justice systems don't work either | Aug 21 21:37 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: i would, obviously :P | Aug 21 21:37 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: referring to what you wrote way above | Aug 21 21:37 |
MinceR | in hungary, it increasingly does what the state party wants | Aug 21 21:37 |
phanes | and it would need to be grotesquely hard to stay in power within it | Aug 21 21:37 |
MinceR | the ECHR just ignores human rights and favors complaining cultists | Aug 21 21:38 |
MinceR | in the USA, it took 4 years to compromise the topmost level of the justice system | Aug 21 21:38 |
CrystalMath | phanes: humans are not all the same | Aug 21 21:38 |
CrystalMath | i personally believe we are all different | Aug 21 21:38 |
CrystalMath | and we might as well be aliens to each other | Aug 21 21:38 |
phanes | the us justice system is not "compromised" it just isn't subscribing to your personal ethical ideals | Aug 21 21:38 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: would the taliban kill you for using heretical beliefs to build it, though? | Aug 21 21:38 |
MinceR | it isn't subscribing to its own alleged ideals | Aug 21 21:39 |
CrystalMath | phanes: honestly the current SCOTUS is probably the best justice system i've ever seen | Aug 21 21:39 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 21:39 |
CrystalMath | not that it should rule the world, but it is an inspiration | Aug 21 21:40 |
phanes | CrystalMath, agreed, they're actually reading what's on the books finally | Aug 21 21:40 |
MinceR | all the current SCOTUS does is package fascist ideals in legal language | Aug 21 21:40 |
MinceR | they may have been partisan before, but that just serves to prove my point | Aug 21 21:40 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: no, in fact they are very strongly resisting the urge to rule through mental gymnastics | Aug 21 21:40 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 21:40 |
MinceR | are they, now? | Aug 21 21:40 |
CrystalMath | they are strongly holding onto the division of powers within a government | Aug 21 21:40 |
MinceR | have you read any of the bullshit they published? | Aug 21 21:40 |
CrystalMath | i've read their opinions of the court | Aug 21 21:40 |
*GNUmoon2 has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 21:41 | |
phanes | CrystalMath, re: abortion, it will inevitably result in a formal amendment written in law instead of a weak patchwork of case dubious case rulings | Aug 21 21:41 |
CrystalMath | phanes: yeah, probably | Aug 21 21:41 |
MinceR | will it really? | Aug 21 21:41 |
MinceR | they had several cycles to do that, and it never materialized | Aug 21 21:41 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: it has to be supported by the will of the people | Aug 21 21:41 |
phanes | MinceR, sounds like youre mad at your legislators then and not the scotus | Aug 21 21:41 |
CrystalMath | for that to happen | Aug 21 21:41 |
*GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@964c847ccybdw.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 21:42 | |
MinceR | i'm mad at many people, phanes | Aug 21 21:42 |
phanes | lol | Aug 21 21:42 |
CrystalMath | see, while SCOTUS has the power to use mental gymnastics to force everybody into something, the legislators can't as they are actually elected | Aug 21 21:42 |
CrystalMath | and they are booted if not re-elected | Aug 21 21:42 |
CrystalMath | a SCOTUS judge is for life | Aug 21 21:43 |
MinceR | i think this much advertised and adulated thing known as "human society" is a massive fractal of failures | Aug 21 21:43 |
MinceR | smaller failures inside larger failures | Aug 21 21:43 |
CrystalMath | so, if the US legislature wants to legalize abortion in all states, there has to be enough support for that | Aug 21 21:43 |
MinceR | a grand edifice describing human stupidity and evil in every detail | Aug 21 21:43 |
CrystalMath | the default position *should* be leaving it to the states, because decentralization is just more fair in general | Aug 21 21:43 |
phanes | there needs to be a bodily autonomy ammendment to the bill of rights | Aug 21 21:44 |
CrystalMath | the US states would be better off with a weaker federal government | Aug 21 21:44 |
phanes | and that could never have happened with roe v wade being the only leg for the practice itself to stand on | Aug 21 21:44 |
MinceR | currently in a time when humans can afford none of that crap | Aug 21 21:44 |
CrystalMath | phanes: what's wrong with leaving it to the states? | Aug 21 21:44 |
MinceR | "leaving it to the states" is just an excuse to oppress people harder where the fascists have greater control over the state | Aug 21 21:45 |
CrystalMath | i mean, yeah christianity is on the fall in general, i do expect there to be an abortion bill one day | Aug 21 21:45 |
phanes | CrystalMath, well, there's a strong argument that it should be a reserved right like speech, press, search and seizure, self-incrimination etc | Aug 21 21:45 |
MinceR | and every time they try to phrase things in such seemingly less loaded terms, it's always an excuse for something | Aug 21 21:45 |
CrystalMath | phanes: but right now there are still many christians in the south that think it's murder | Aug 21 21:45 |
MinceR | successful politicians are all sociopaths and they never ever tell the truth | Aug 21 21:45 |
MinceR | telling the truth is political suicide | Aug 21 21:45 |
MinceR | those christians do not think | Aug 21 21:46 |
MinceR | they read a childish book full of bullshit and believe it to be profound truth | Aug 21 21:46 |
phanes | CrystalMath, in some cases it ought to be, but perhaps not the cases they think it should be. we should never legislate christian dogma. | Aug 21 21:46 |
MinceR | if they can read, that is | Aug 21 21:46 |
DaemonFC | https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-relic-commits-to-restructuring-plan-including-layoffs-271660823014 | Aug 21 21:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-New Relic Commits to Restructuring Plan, Including Layoffs - MarketWatch | Aug 21 21:47 | |
phanes | MinceR, easy there, the abrahamic religious texts are full of wise things, even if you don't subscribe to their religion (and even if most fundies have never read it) | Aug 21 21:47 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Another Web tracking firm just got rid of 110 employees. | Aug 21 21:47 |
schestowitz[TR] | good | Aug 21 21:47 |
schestowitz[TR] | what hicks said | Aug 21 21:47 |
CrystalMath | either way, handing this case back to the legislature makes sure that it's the people who decide, at least | Aug 21 21:47 |
phanes | yep | Aug 21 21:48 |
CrystalMath | though i still believe that what people "should" or "should not" do highly depends on the location | Aug 21 21:48 |
CrystalMath | there is no universal "should" or "should not" | Aug 21 21:48 |
MinceR | phanes: they're also full of sentences that directly contradict those alleged "wise" things | Aug 21 21:48 |
MinceR | and also full of just childish stupidity | Aug 21 21:49 |
CrystalMath | hence why i respect the taliban, they do a lot of things we think the should not, but i respect their difference | Aug 21 21:49 |
phanes | what i would like to not see though is have this stay a state-level thing forever, as that creates backwoods alabama shitholes feeling empowered to force atrocity -- it needs to be reserved at a higher level with some controls around it | Aug 21 21:49 |
DaemonFC | https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-contract-workers-accenture-austin-lost-jobs-2022-8 | Aug 21 21:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.businessinsider.com | Facebook Contract Workers Through Accenture Let Go From Work | Aug 21 21:49 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], ^ | Aug 21 21:49 |
DaemonFC | "Facebook contractors learned they lost work with the company through a video call with anonymous representatives who said an 'algorithm' chose random people to cut, workers say" | Aug 21 21:49 |
MinceR | like using one's unlimited power to curse a fig tree for not being in fruiting season | Aug 21 21:49 |
MinceR | that's just embarrassing | Aug 21 21:49 |
CrystalMath | phanes: i would like the see the federal government disappear | Aug 21 21:49 |
CrystalMath | and the entire world being fractured into tiny tiny communities | Aug 21 21:49 |
CrystalMath | all different | Aug 21 21:49 |
MinceR | tiny tiny totalitarian dictatorships | Aug 21 21:49 |
MinceR | one for every single crazy, sick person and their personal victims | Aug 21 21:50 |
MinceR | one for putler, one for xi jinping, one for orban, one for erdogan, one for gAIDS... | Aug 21 21:50 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: well idk, if you believe they would all be dictatorships, then you have no faith in the people around you either... | Aug 21 21:50 |
phanes | CrystalMath, all that will do is create power vaccuums that will be immediately filled by foreign powers, so, learn russian and chinese if that ever happens, and start with the phrase "please avoid my face, I need it for my job" | Aug 21 21:50 |
MinceR | CrystalMath: there are enough sociopaths to oppress everybody on this planet | Aug 21 21:50 |
MinceR | this should be obvious | Aug 21 21:50 |
CrystalMath | phanes: i may move to russia anyway, they're not that scary | Aug 21 21:51 |
MinceR | phanes: all that would achieve is that if you listened real closely, you could learn the phrase "fuck your face, i don't give a shit about your job or your face" in russian or in mandarin | Aug 21 21:51 |
phanes | CrystalMath, then you haven't seen the ugliness of russia yet | Aug 21 21:51 |
CrystalMath | truth be told, i don't know that much about it | Aug 21 21:52 |
phanes | the us has ugly too | Aug 21 21:52 |
MinceR | moving to russia will be a great opportunity to learn about the ugliness of russia | Aug 21 21:52 |
DaemonFC | https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/08/19/crypto-lender-hodlnaut-faces-singapore-police-actions-and-staggering-job-cuts/ | Aug 21 21:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.coindesk.com | Crypto Lender Hodlnaut Faces Singapore Police ‘Actions’ and Job Cuts | Aug 21 21:52 | |
phanes | but our ugly is far less scary than their ugly | Aug 21 21:52 |
MinceR | "camping opportunity?" | Aug 21 21:52 |
XRevan86 | CrystalMath: Just don't write a donos on me, O.K.? | Aug 21 21:52 |
DaemonFC | "Singaporean crypto lender Hodlnaut disclosed massive layoffs and pending “police proceedings” in a Friday blog post that underscored the dire financial and legal straits faced by the latest firm to freeze crypto withdrawals. | Aug 21 21:52 |
DaemonFC | Hodlnaut said in the blog that it fired 40 people, which was 80% of its staff, and slashed interest rates to a 0% annual percentage rate in an attempt to “stabilize our liquidity” and cut costs. Its founders are “working hard on a recovery plan” and remain in Singapore." | Aug 21 21:52 |
CrystalMath | XRevan86: a what? | Aug 21 21:52 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/донос#Russian | Aug 21 21:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | донос - Wiktionary | Aug 21 21:53 | |
CrystalMath | ah | Aug 21 21:53 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: but in russia i could have gas-powered cars with no electronics in them | Aug 21 21:55 |
MinceR | you could have that in many places | Aug 21 21:55 |
MinceR | just not sold as a new car | Aug 21 21:55 |
CrystalMath | and so many beautiful analog devices | Aug 21 21:55 |
phanes | https://thediplomat.com/2022/08/china-moves-to-fill-the-void-left-by-russia-sanctions-on-its-own-terms/ | Aug 21 21:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thediplomat.com | China Moves to Fill The Void Left By Russia Sanctions – On Its Own Terms – The Diplomat | Aug 21 21:55 | |
MinceR | the USA has the 25-year rule, for example | Aug 21 21:56 |
MinceR | it's more difficult around here, as the cars built under russian rule are so crap they couldn't last this long | Aug 21 21:56 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: They can. | Aug 21 21:57 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: there are actually some great Trabants in Hungary | Aug 21 21:57 |
XRevan86 | And they do. | Aug 21 21:57 |
MinceR | there's at least 1 trabant in the usa, too | Aug 21 21:57 |
XRevan86 | Maybe too much. | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | iirc Aging Wheels had a video of it | Aug 21 21:58 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: yeah i saw it on youtube, it's great | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | Doug DeMuro had a video about a Yugo | Aug 21 21:58 |
CrystalMath | such a beautiful car, and it's the closest thing the world has had to an open source car | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | lol | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | try using it for a while, then | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | iirc its engine is so laughably weak it had trouble going up the incline on M7 at Erd | Aug 21 21:58 |
CrystalMath | i think i've seen one as a kid, but i don't remember ever being in it | Aug 21 21:58 |
MinceR | i've been in one | Aug 21 21:59 |
MinceR | it's cramped and low quality | Aug 21 21:59 |
MinceR | and in general eastern bloc cars tended to be so poorly made people would take them to the worshop right after getting one, to have it taken apart and put together properly | Aug 21 21:59 |
*starstreak has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 21:59 | |
CrystalMath | when i saw a youtube video describing it, i thought.... "this is the BSD of cars" | Aug 21 22:00 |
MinceR | it isn't | Aug 21 22:00 |
MinceR | unix workstations tended to be powerful | Aug 21 22:00 |
CrystalMath | some people have actually rebuilt its engine from scratch | Aug 21 22:00 |
MinceR | eastern bloc cars never were | Aug 21 22:00 |
MinceR | you'd better, as they don't last :> | Aug 21 22:01 |
CrystalMath | well you need to take care of it, it's not just something you buy and forget | Aug 21 22:01 |
CrystalMath | also you have to premix oil | Aug 21 22:01 |
MinceR | yeah, and then you create blue smoke | Aug 21 22:01 |
MinceR | because it's an idiotic, primitive design that burns oil by design | Aug 21 22:02 |
CrystalMath | the oil is used to lubricate the engine | Aug 21 22:02 |
MinceR | same in 4-stroke engines | Aug 21 22:02 |
MinceR | yet those don't burn so much oil | Aug 21 22:02 |
CrystalMath | yes but 2-stroke is simpler to make | Aug 21 22:02 |
MinceR | who cares | Aug 21 22:03 |
CrystalMath | you need to be able to make your own engine | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | just get a car built by people who know what they're doing | Aug 21 22:03 |
CrystalMath | you're an open source person, you should know the importance of this independence | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | (i.e. japanese car) | Aug 21 22:03 |
CrystalMath | "just rely on others" = big mistake, other people want the worst to you | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | there's no "open source" car | Aug 21 22:03 |
CrystalMath | or at least you should always suspect other people | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | also, cars are fiendishly complex by necessirt | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | s/rt/ty/ | Aug 21 22:03 |
CrystalMath | but one man has build a trabant engine from scratch | Aug 21 22:03 |
MinceR | and you'd expect that thing to last decades | Aug 21 22:04 |
CrystalMath | used some really weird material for the interior of the piston shaft, whatever it's called | Aug 21 22:04 |
MinceR | so yeah, i'd love a free hardware design / free software car, but it's not even close to existing | Aug 21 22:04 |
CrystalMath | but it worked | Aug 21 22:04 |
MinceR | it would need the equivalent of decades of experience in production and support built into the design | Aug 21 22:04 |
CrystalMath | still, i've never heard of ONE man building any other kind of engine | Aug 21 22:05 |
CrystalMath | so, you have the option of homemade 2-stroke, or factory made 4-stroke designed by people who hate you | Aug 21 22:05 |
MinceR | you think the people who designed the trabant engine hate me less than all the people who designed 4-stroke engines? | Aug 21 22:06 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: that problem disappears if you create a trabant yourself | Aug 21 22:06 |
MinceR | if you "create" a trabant yourself, you end up with a trabant | Aug 21 22:06 |
MinceR | that's kind of like the Gratis Windows Foundation's newer goal of having a gratis (but not free) windows imitation (based on systemd) available to everyone | Aug 21 22:07 |
DaemonFC | https://layoffstracker.com/wayfair-lays-off-5-workforce-870-employees/ | Aug 21 22:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Wayfair lays off 5% Workforce – 870 Employees - LayoffsTracker | Aug 21 22:07 | |
MinceR | what's the point if the design is crap anyway? | Aug 21 22:07 |
*starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 22:07 | |
CrystalMath | MinceR: because it's open source | Aug 21 22:07 |
DaemonFC | How the hell is 870 jobs "5%" of Wayfair. | Aug 21 22:07 |
MinceR | not even free? | Aug 21 22:07 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: clearly if you can build it yourself, modify it, distribute it... | Aug 21 22:08 |
MinceR | i'd rather build a Land Cruiser, even if it's an ancient model | Aug 21 22:08 |
CrystalMath | hmm, but can you? | Aug 21 22:08 |
MinceR | no | Aug 21 22:08 |
CrystalMath | it's probably hard to make a homemade 4-stroke engine | Aug 21 22:09 |
CrystalMath | though i have seen some, they weren't made by one person | Aug 21 22:09 |
MinceR | it's hard to make any sort of car at home from scratch | Aug 21 22:09 |
MinceR | engines are particularly difficult | Aug 21 22:09 |
CrystalMath | steam engines are easier | Aug 21 22:09 |
MinceR | maybe a Battery Electric Vehicle is easier... unless you want to build the lithium ion cells at home | Aug 21 22:09 |
schestowitz[TR] | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): BTW, You Should Use Arch. And why you should consider using Linux… ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/BTW_You_Should_Use_Arch_And_why_you_should_consider_using_Linux.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/BTW_You_Should_Use_Arch_And_why_you_should_consider_using_Linux.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 22:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — BTW, You Should Use Arch. And why you should consider using Linux… | Aug 21 22:10 | |
schestowitz[TR] | starstreak: ^ | Aug 21 22:10 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: or steam | Aug 21 22:10 |
CrystalMath | you can use natural gas to heat the water tank | Aug 21 22:10 |
MinceR | i suspect a steam car would come with very serious compromises | Aug 21 22:10 |
MinceR | OTOH it's going to be easier to power after the collapse | Aug 21 22:10 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: they're very cool | Aug 21 22:11 |
MinceR | you could just use biomass to power it | Aug 21 22:11 |
MinceR | can you drive one uphill, though? | Aug 21 22:11 |
starstreak | schestowitz[TR], there are good reasons why I used Fedora and then Arch | Aug 21 22:13 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: do remember that steam cars need minutes to start | Aug 21 22:13 |
starstreak | schestowitz[TR], i wanted the most recent packages of software | Aug 21 22:13 |
CrystalMath | tens of minutes | Aug 21 22:13 |
CrystalMath | MinceR: so, it can't be used to escape a flood or natural disaster in an emergency | Aug 21 22:14 |
CrystalMath | unless the emergency is known an hour in advance :P | Aug 21 22:15 |
CrystalMath | (when i said "minutes" I meant "many minutes") | Aug 21 22:17 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 22:20 |
starstreak | schestowitz[TR], nice article though | Aug 21 22:20 |
starstreak | just today I got an update to the latest GCC | Aug 21 22:20 |
starstreak | [britney@archbtw ~]$ gcc --version | Aug 21 22:20 |
starstreak | gcc (GCC) 12.2.0 | Aug 21 22:20 |
starstreak | there is also a meme that trans women run arch and have anime girl profile pics, so i had to switch to arch for the memes | Aug 21 22:21 |
starstreak | https://youtu.be/G-mLyrHonvU | Aug 21 22:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://invidious.esmailelbob.xyz/watch?v=G-mLyrHonvU | Aug 21 22:22 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> invidious.esmailelbob.xyz | Archinstall - Arch Linux Made Easy - Invidious | Aug 21 22:22 | |
starstreak | ^ I saw this video and found out archinstall supports full disk encryption which was what was holding me back from switching to arch | Aug 21 22:23 |
starstreak | im a smug anime girl running arch btw | Aug 21 22:26 |
*bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 22:29 | |
*bnchs (~bnchs@8cfmpgg5t5qde.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 22:37 | |
DaemonFC | https://www.insider.com/missouri-fake-abortion-clinic-tried-sabotage-a-womans-pregnancy-termination-2022-8 | Aug 21 22:40 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.insider.com | A Fake Abortion Clinic Tried to Sabotage My Pregnancy Termination | Aug 21 22:40 | |
DaemonFC | Mom claims they've "watered down" the effectiveness of the birth control pill to the point where you can't really rely on it anymore. | Aug 21 22:41 |
DaemonFC | I've known several women who were taking them who got pregnant anyway. | Aug 21 22:41 |
DaemonFC | It wouldn't surprise me. I don't trust doctors. | Aug 21 22:42 |
DaemonFC | Most of them aren't very honest with their patients. | Aug 21 22:42 |
starstreak | anti-abortion is white supremacy | Aug 21 22:42 |
DaemonFC | I don't know how. | Aug 21 22:42 |
starstreak | the idea is about the population | Aug 21 22:43 |
DaemonFC | If over 80% of them are blacks, then why would white supremacists want rid of abortion? | Aug 21 22:43 |
DaemonFC | I don't get the long term gain here. More blacks? | Aug 21 22:43 |
starstreak | most of the women who get abortions are white so its a way of increasing the white population | Aug 21 22:43 |
DaemonFC | That's not true. | Aug 21 22:43 |
DaemonFC | Most of the women getting them are black. | Aug 21 22:43 |
starstreak | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZhxkF64yfE | Aug 21 22:44 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@Invidious: https://y.com.sb/watch?v=XZhxkF64yfE | Aug 21 22:44 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> y.com.sb | White Supremacy and the Anti-Abortion Movement - Invidious | Aug 21 22:44 | |
starstreak | 1 hour long | Aug 21 22:44 |
DaemonFC | 38% of abortions are black women, compared with 13% of the US population being black. | Aug 21 22:44 |
DaemonFC | The next highest group is 21% being Hispanic/Latino. | Aug 21 22:45 |
starstreak | republicans want to increase the white population without increasing immigration because that lets in non whites | Aug 21 22:45 |
DaemonFC | Non-Hispanic whites getting abortions are 33% of all abortions in the US, but we're like almost 60% of the population. | Aug 21 22:46 |
*techuser has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 22:46 | |
starstreak | depends on the area | Aug 21 22:46 |
starstreak | but even so, they just want more white babies | Aug 21 22:46 |
DaemonFC | Oh well, in that case, things get even worse for whites. | Aug 21 22:46 |
XRevan86 | starstreak: Or…they are catering to the traditionalist types. | Aug 21 22:46 |
DaemonFC | Because the states that have total or near-total abortion bans now have lots and lots of blacks. | Aug 21 22:47 |
DaemonFC | Like Mississippi, where they are nearly 40% of the population iirc. | Aug 21 22:47 |
starstreak | XRevan86, that too | Aug 21 22:47 |
DaemonFC | The ten states that banned it, nearly all the abortions are blacks. | Aug 21 22:48 |
DaemonFC | The only state with a ban coming in the next three months that doesn't have a lot of blacks is Indiana. | Aug 21 22:48 |
DaemonFC | And the blacks living in Indiana mostly live on the border with Chicago and will get the abortions anyway. | Aug 21 22:48 |
starstreak | https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortions-by-race/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D | Aug 21 22:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kff.org | Reported Legal Abortions by Race of Women Who Obtained Abortion by the State of Occurrence | KFF | Aug 21 22:48 | |
DaemonFC | Indiana shouldn't really be happy about Illinois becoming unaffordable. | Aug 21 22:49 |
starstreak | Indiana: 52% white, 32% black | Aug 21 22:49 |
DaemonFC | The result of that is the black people are piling out and establishing a new home in Indiana because it's close by and still cheap. | Aug 21 22:49 |
starstreak | where are your stats? | Aug 21 22:49 |
DaemonFC | Typically, most blacks living in Indiana are concentrated where you'd expect. | Aug 21 22:50 |
DaemonFC | The Chicago area, followed by Indianapolis, and Fort Wayne. | Aug 21 22:50 |
DaemonFC | They tended to stay out of small rural areas, but that's changing. | Aug 21 22:50 |
DaemonFC | I was on the phone with mom and she says that in Huntington, there's a lot of them living in some cheap motels there now. | Aug 21 22:51 |
starstreak | dude, check out my link | Aug 21 22:51 |
starstreak | https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortions-by-race/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22White%22,%22sort%22:%22desc%22%7D | Aug 21 22:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.kff.org | Reported Legal Abortions by Race of Women Who Obtained Abortion by the State of Occurrence | KFF | Aug 21 22:51 | |
starstreak | the data shows that white people dominate the stats for legal abortions | Aug 21 22:51 |
DaemonFC | My guess is the motels are the only place they can live because the federal anti-discrimination laws are much more enforced on businesses than they are in "housing". | Aug 21 22:51 |
starstreak | racist republicans want to increase the population without immigration | Aug 21 22:52 |
DaemonFC | And so motels can't turn them away as easily as a private landlord who can just not rent to them and not say why. | Aug 21 22:52 |
DaemonFC | There's a million reasons not to rent to someone that are perfectly legal. | Aug 21 22:52 |
DaemonFC | Proving that it was because you're black is impossible. You can't read the guy's mind and get it admitted into evidence. | Aug 21 22:52 |
DaemonFC | So he'll just focus on what's legal. | Aug 21 22:53 |
DaemonFC | And that'll be the reason, even though an otherwise equal white person would get the apartment. | Aug 21 22:53 |
DaemonFC | Like, maybe he doesn't really care about felons as long as it's a white felon. | Aug 21 22:53 |
DaemonFC | Or maybe you just barely have the income to rent it, but so does a white person, and he figures a white tenant who is poor is less likely to fuck him on the rent and use the property for crimes. | Aug 21 22:54 |
DaemonFC | So he rents it to the poor white person. | Aug 21 22:54 |
techrights-news | Flameshot Not Working On Wlroots & Sway: Here’s The Fix - Invidious ⚓ https://yewtu.be/watch?v=6O6WBtchg_c | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://auragem.space/youtube/video/6O6WBtchg_c | Aug 21 22:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-yewtu.be | Flameshot Not Working On Wlroots & Sway: Here's The Fix - Invidious | Aug 21 22:55 | |
techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): KaOS 2022.08 Run Through ⇨ https://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/KaOS_2022_08_Run_Through.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2022/08/21/KaOS_2022_08_Run_Through.gmi ∎ | Aug 21 22:55 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.tuxmachines.org | Tux Machines — KaOS 2022.08 Run Through | Aug 21 22:55 | |
*techuser (~techuser@pfkjyweak68i6.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 22:55 | |
starstreak | racist conservatives changed the immigration system in canada by using a points system so only rich people can get in | Aug 21 22:57 |
techrights-news | Internet-connected browsers should NOT do this. Standalone password managers, which are audited, should. https://www.maketecheasier.com/safari-save-passwords-ios/ | Aug 21 22:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.maketecheasier.com | How to Make Mobile Safari Save Your Passwords on iOS - Make Tech Easier | Aug 21 22:57 | |
DaemonFC | Landlords really hate a certain type of tenant. The four commandments of trying to rent an apartment are "Thou Shalt Not Have Any Evictions Record", "Thou Shalt Not Be Late On Rent", and "Thou Shalt Not Draw Police Attention", and "Thou Shalt Not Cause Extreme Property Damage". And if you do any of those things, you're out. | Aug 21 22:57 |
DaemonFC | It's in almost every lease that any criminal activity on or involving the property is grounds for having the lease terminated by the landlord. | Aug 21 22:57 |
techrights-news | iustin - Note to self: Don't forget Qemu's discard option ⚓ https://k1024.org/posts/2022/2022-08-21-do-not-forget-qemu-unmap/ ䷉ Source: Iustin Pop | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//k1024.org/posts/2022/2022-08-21-do-not-forget-qemu-unmap/ | Aug 21 22:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-k1024.org | iustin - Note to self: Don't forget Qemu's discard option | Aug 21 22:58 | |
DaemonFC | When I was accused (not convicted) of a misdemeanor, the landlord claimed he terminated my lease. | Aug 21 22:58 |
DaemonFC | The penalties start immediately even though theoretically you're innocent. | Aug 21 22:58 |
DaemonFC | Landlords don't rent to people with anything "pending" in the court system. | Aug 21 22:58 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | ▕ IPFS downstream, 60 mins: ▁▂▁▄▂▁▅▁▂▁▃▄▂▃▁▄▃▁▁▁▁▁▂▁▁▁█▄▄▄▃▄▃▁ avg(k/sec) 46.51 ▕ IPFS upstream: ▄█▁▁▁▁▁▂▅▁▁█▁▁▂▁▁▁█▁█████▆▁▁▁▁▁▁▁ avg(k/sec) 65.86▕ swarm size (avg): 121.26 ⟲ | Aug 21 22:59 |
DaemonFC | They consider it a risk that the court will sentence you to go to jail and there won't be anyone there paying the rent when they do that. | Aug 21 22:59 |
DaemonFC | So you can not just lose your existing lease, but nobody wants to risk having you hauled off to jail and having an apartment full of your stuff they have to clear out and list the apartment again in the middle of the lease. | Aug 21 22:59 |
techrights-news | ArchLabs 2022.08.21 is out today https://archlabslinux.com/ | Aug 21 22:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archlabslinux.com | ArchLabs Linux – Inspired by BunsenLabs. Powered by Arch Linux. | Aug 21 22:59 | |
DaemonFC | There's only so much of a headache the landlord will put up with from any renter before they call it and take them to court or won't renew the lease. | Aug 21 23:00 |
DaemonFC | So if you know what's best for you, your strategy should be to just hunker down and keep signing leases as long as you can unless and until something outrageous happens. | Aug 21 23:01 |
DaemonFC | And don't cause any trouble. | Aug 21 23:01 |
DaemonFC | We're going into a really shitty economy right now and nobody admits it. | Aug 21 23:01 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR] knows that. What kind of media gaslighting is going on. | Aug 21 23:02 |
DaemonFC | It's all to protect the Democrats because they've been good to the corporate types. | Aug 21 23:02 |
schestowitz[TR] | pretty much | Aug 21 23:02 |
DaemonFC | They've raised taxes and dumped it all out on corporations. The "CHIPS and SCIENCE Act!". | Aug 21 23:02 |
schestowitz[TR] | it MIGHT be a recession, ryan | Aug 21 23:02 |
schestowitz[TR] | but unemployment is VERY low | Aug 21 23:02 |
DaemonFC | Then Intel gets the money and announces less investment and more dividends. | Aug 21 23:02 |
schestowitz[TR] | ryan, you are employed | Aug 21 23:02 |
schestowitz[TR] | according to the oligarchs' records | Aug 21 23:02 |
DaemonFC | I have "insurance" too! | Aug 21 23:03 |
DaemonFC | I'm being well taken care of, you know. | Aug 21 23:03 |
schestowitz[TR] | "if you ain't looking no more, problem solved. You are SORTED." | Aug 21 23:03 |
schestowitz[TR] | democrats and republicans alike: 409% of our adult population is RETIRED! | Aug 21 23:03 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], I can tell you why people are becoming more violent. | Aug 21 23:03 |
schestowitz[TR] | *40% | Aug 21 23:03 |
DaemonFC | More people with nothing left to lose. | Aug 21 23:03 |
schestowitz[TR] | yeah | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | no healthcare either | Aug 21 23:04 |
DaemonFC | Even in prison, you get a bed, you don't freeze, you don't have to wonder where your insulin or food is coming from. | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | buybacks for Intel | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | good for shareholders | Aug 21 23:04 |
DaemonFC | They treat fucking prisoners better than they do people who haven't done anything wrong. | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | prisons are for-profit | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | so it's OK | Aug 21 23:04 |
schestowitz[TR] | soon they'll do conscription there | Aug 21 23:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | and forced labour | Aug 21 23:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | helmets and stuff | Aug 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], No need. | Aug 21 23:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | like in russia and china, respectively | Aug 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | Indiana "reformed" their criminal code back in 2013. | Aug 21 23:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | the military struggled to recruit at the moment | Aug 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | After promising the prison companies more prisoners. | Aug 21 23:05 |
schestowitz[TR] | it was in the news this month/lately | Aug 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | They took a bunch of misdemeanors and turned them into felonies. | Aug 21 23:05 |
DaemonFC | All they really have to do is make it easier to seriously fuck yourself. | Aug 21 23:06 |
DaemonFC | And there's more prisoners. | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | person goes to jail | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | person release | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | person struggles | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | thinks, heck prison was not so bad | Aug 21 23:06 |
DaemonFC | person goes back to prison | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | let's steal shit | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | if I win, I win | Aug 21 23:06 |
schestowitz[TR] | it I lose, I win | Aug 21 23:06 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, when prison is better than "freedom", your country is fucked beyond hope. | Aug 21 23:07 |
XRevan86 | https://nitter.it/JuliaDavisNews/status/1561455861696004098 | Aug 21 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Julia Davis (@JuliaDavisNews): "Meanwhile in Russia: a revealing look at the way Russian pundits and experts talk about Ukrainians, describing them as primitive, but cunning and two-faced villagers, devoid of their own national identity, too ignorant to grasp the Russian imperial need for territorial expansion."|nitter.it | Aug 21 23:07 | |
schestowitz[TR] | the prison industry likes it | Aug 21 23:07 |
schestowitz[TR] | GEO Corp? | Aug 21 23:07 |
DaemonFC | Out of prison, they do fucking nothing for you, schestowitz[TR] | Aug 21 23:07 |
DaemonFC | You'll be lucky to find a meal somewhere. | Aug 21 23:07 |
schestowitz[TR] | https://www.geogroup.com/ | Aug 21 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geogroup.com | The GEO Group - Official Website | Aug 21 23:07 | |
schestowitz[TR] | .com :-) | Aug 21 23:07 |
schestowitz[TR] | when your prison is a for-profit company | Aug 21 23:07 |
schestowitz[TR] | https://www.geogroup.com/LOCATIONS | Aug 21 23:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geogroup.com | Locations | Aug 21 23:08 | |
schestowitz[TR] | U.S. Secure Services · 51 Facilities · 65,080 Beds | Aug 21 23:08 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], It's pretty bad, you know, how frightened I am. Depressed. | Aug 21 23:08 |
DaemonFC | My mom doesn't like how I've been talking. | Aug 21 23:08 |
schestowitz[TR] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEO_Group | Aug 21 23:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | GEO Group - Wikipedia | Aug 21 23:08 | |
DaemonFC | I said if anything happens to me, please take care of the cats and Mandy. | Aug 21 23:08 |
schestowitz[TR] | "The GEO Group, Inc. (GEO) is a publicly traded C corporation that invests in private prisons" | Aug 21 23:08 |
DaemonFC | He's not helpless, but this government is so rotten and it is a foreign country to him. | Aug 21 23:09 |
schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: you are better at taking care of mandy and the cats | Aug 21 23:09 |
DaemonFC | He probably couldn't get a library card without me helping him. | Aug 21 23:09 |
schestowitz[TR] | hang in there | Aug 21 23:09 |
schestowitz[TR] | write stuff, don't think TOO much | Aug 21 23:10 |
schestowitz[TR] | when the rich are done stealing all the capital and break costs $5 a loaf, for many people there will be nothing left to eat but the rich | Aug 21 23:10 |
schestowitz[TR] | and their capital | Aug 21 23:11 |
DaemonFC | I'd like to say "Hell, they never broke Nelson Mandela..." But the people who came after him are worse than the apartheid people. | Aug 21 23:11 |
schestowitz[TR] | in ukraine they already struggle to get food, in some areas | Aug 21 23:11 |
schestowitz[TR] | YOU have food | Aug 21 23:11 |
DaemonFC | That's true. | Aug 21 23:11 |
schestowitz[TR] | and extra in thew belly | Aug 21 23:11 |
DaemonFC | No danger of Russian cruise missiles hitting my apartment building. | Aug 21 23:11 |
schestowitz[TR] | for hard times | Aug 21 23:11 |
schestowitz[TR] | you can go on for months without eating | Aug 21 23:12 |
schestowitz[TR] | the fatties | Aug 21 23:12 |
DaemonFC | The UK is in more danger from Russia than I am. | Aug 21 23:12 |
schestowitz[TR] | obese | Aug 21 23:12 |
schestowitz[TR] | months | Aug 21 23:12 |
DaemonFC | Come to think of it. | Aug 21 23:12 |
schestowitz[TR] | water is another matter | Aug 21 23:12 |
DaemonFC | The UK has been broke for quite a while. | Aug 21 23:12 |
schestowitz[TR] | most countries | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | Not in as much "book" debt. | Aug 21 23:13 |
schestowitz[TR] | UK is not yet as poor as US | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | Just letting all their stuff go while they make budget cuts. | Aug 21 23:13 |
schestowitz[TR] | and crime here nowhere near | Aug 21 23:13 |
schestowitz[TR] | US is off the charts | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | Crime is off the charts in the cities, Roy. | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | What else is new? | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | You could give those animals in Chicago a 24 karat gold bar every month they go without killing or raping someone. | Aug 21 23:13 |
DaemonFC | And it wouldn't be enough for a lot of them. | Aug 21 23:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: theya re poorer than you | Aug 21 23:14 |
DaemonFC | They don't think in terms of how desperate they are for food or a place to live. | Aug 21 23:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | and more desperate than you | Aug 21 23:14 |
DaemonFC | A lot are criminals because that's what they want to do that moment. | Aug 21 23:14 |
schestowitz[TR] | they live with and talk to other desperate people | Aug 21 23:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | brb | Aug 21 23:15 |
DaemonFC | And they don't have any mental capacity to go "You know, if I clunk that woman over the head and rape her and set her on fire in a dumpster.....what happens to ME tomorrow?". | Aug 21 23:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | just deployed some gut front end in gemini for tuxmachines | Aug 21 23:15 |
DaemonFC | That's not just a poverty problem. | Aug 21 23:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | *git | Aug 21 23:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | DaemonFC: that's an extreme example | Aug 21 23:15 |
schestowitz[TR] | probably the dickest in the head | Aug 21 23:16 |
schestowitz[TR] | and that makes more headlines | Aug 21 23:16 |
schestowitz[TR] | *sickest | Aug 21 23:16 |
DaemonFC | There's a lot of those down there. | Aug 21 23:17 |
DaemonFC | It's in the news every day. | Aug 21 23:17 |
DaemonFC | Hell, almost every day in Lake County. | Aug 21 23:17 |
DaemonFC | It's terrifying how normal people can "seem" and be so fucked in the head. | Aug 21 23:17 |
schestowitz[TR] | trauma messes people up | Aug 21 23:18 |
DaemonFC | Normal people spend so much time being afraid of me because I have no fashion sense or a strange personality, that they ignore the fact that I'm not the danger. | Aug 21 23:18 |
schestowitz[TR] | and they look for revenge | Aug 21 23:18 |
DaemonFC | The people who seem normal are the ones they need to watch out for. | Aug 21 23:18 |
schestowitz[TR] | programming themselves or making alliances with other nuts | Aug 21 23:18 |
schestowitz[TR] | see mandy's sister | Aug 21 23:18 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, their dad had a trove of zoo porn apparently. | Aug 21 23:19 |
DaemonFC | The guy was a complete sicko. | Aug 21 23:19 |
DaemonFC | Then he kills a dog and roasts it and that's dinner. | Aug 21 23:19 |
DaemonFC | I mean, what was he doing to HER? | Aug 21 23:19 |
DaemonFC | Or for that matter, Mandy, that I haven't heard about. | Aug 21 23:19 |
techrights-ipfs-bot | (ℹ) Planet Gemini updated. Latest complete date at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-20.gmi and so far today at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/2022-08-21.gmi with 3-day aggregate at gemini://gemini.techrights.org/planet/othercapsules/allinone.gmi | Aug 21 23:20 |
techrights-news | "I still can’t believe we did this for two years; even just a weekend of it left me feeling irritable and tired. My dad used to say the most exhausting thing you can do is nothing, and I’ve really come to understand this of late." https://rubenerd.com/it-sure-felt-like-a-long-weekend/ | Aug 21 23:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Rubenerd: It sure felt like a long weekend! | Aug 21 23:20 | |
DaemonFC | It sounded like his parents were a couple of miserable wretches who had a sad, short, life. | Aug 21 23:20 |
DaemonFC | And not short enough. | Aug 21 23:20 |
DaemonFC | But not everyone turns out like their parents, you know. | Aug 21 23:21 |
techuser | cuddlybear66: parent-child relationships topic, perhaps | Aug 21 23:21 |
DaemonFC | Most parents are bad parents. | Aug 21 23:22 |
DaemonFC | But it's different types and degrees of bad. | Aug 21 23:22 |
techuser | cuddlybear66 thinks she would be better than others. Other parents also think like this. | Aug 21 23:22 |
DaemonFC | Most of them are just shitty parents because having kids was not what they wanted in life and "it just happened" and then they realize personally that it ended everything that they wanted to do. | Aug 21 23:22 |
techrights-news | "Social engineering is a powerful method for hackers to exploit computer systems without the use of malware or computer hacking tools." https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/how-hackers-use-social-engineering-to-get-passwords-on-facebook/ | Aug 21 23:22 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.geeksforgeeks.org | How Hackers Use Social Engineering to Get Passwords on Facebook? - GeeksforGeeks | Aug 21 23:23 | |
DaemonFC | I think, looking back to 1997-1999, my mom just had a mid-life crisis and it ended up hurting her greatly. | Aug 21 23:23 |
schestowitz[TR] | a real crisis? | Aug 21 23:23 |
schestowitz[TR] | or menopause-related depression? | Aug 21 23:24 |
DaemonFC | Because instead of being with my dad, who was mostly just boring and kind of a control freak, she ended up with stupid men who beat her and committed adultery. | Aug 21 23:24 |
DaemonFC | Well, for at least 6-7 more years she was menstruating because the dog would grab the tampons out of the bathroom trash and try to eat them. | Aug 21 23:24 |
DaemonFC | And leave bits all over the floor. | Aug 21 23:24 |
techrights-news | WSL https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/h_600,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Feb762d5e-1e1a-44a6-9c9d-e4def71a40f5_768x768.jpeg | Aug 21 23:25 |
DaemonFC | Thank God she never had any kids with Brian. | Aug 21 23:25 |
techuser | and I just have no idea what to do | Aug 21 23:25 |
DaemonFC | He had too many already and they're all criminals. | Aug 21 23:25 |
techuser | maybe my life is fucked up from the beginning | Aug 21 23:25 |
DaemonFC | Like, "HERR DERR I PUNCHED A COP DAD BUT IT'LL BE FINE BECAUSE I DID DRYWALL FOR HIM LAST WEEK!". | Aug 21 23:25 |
techuser | I will probably get a job, and I will earn money, and I will have no idea what to spend it on, aside basic life needs | Aug 21 23:25 |
DaemonFC | Or his daughter that got caught by a cop on the way to her probation meeting for something else with a joint and a jar of her daughter's piss in a bottle on the seat in plain view. | Aug 21 23:26 |
DaemonFC | I mean like, not even smart enough to toss it under the seat and play it off like she was rummaging for her registration. | Aug 21 23:26 |
techrights-news | [Old] It is happening here: Massachusetts has a growing neo-Nazi movement https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news/2022/05/18/it-is-happening-here-massachusetts-has-a-growing-neo-nazi-movement | Aug 21 23:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.wgbh.org | It is happening here: Massachusetts has a growing neo-Nazi movement | Aug 21 23:26 | |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Radar detectors are not illegal in Indiana, but a cop pulled me over for speeding one night because it didn't go off in time. | Aug 21 23:27 |
DaemonFC | I yanked it off my windshield and threw it under the seat before he pulled me over. | Aug 21 23:27 |
DaemonFC | I ended up getting a warning. | Aug 21 23:27 |
DaemonFC | But like, I'm smart enough that even in a panic I'm like "He sees that, like, my intention was to speed and just know if there were cops nearby. He'll laugh and write me a ticket.". | Aug 21 23:28 |
DaemonFC | I had to be on the road all the time back then and I got the detector because it usually went off in time to slow down. | Aug 21 23:29 |
schestowitz[TR] | "you got off with a warning," that's what she said... | Aug 21 23:29 |
DaemonFC | It just didn't that particular time. | Aug 21 23:29 |
schestowitz[TR] | they are a waste of money | Aug 21 23:29 |
schestowitz[TR] | just obey road rules | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | the radars won't save you | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | cops can still frame you | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | the radara dns cams are not evidence | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | the courts won't admit them | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | unless they can be used against you | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | avoid cops | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | the radar won't help you avoid cops | Aug 21 23:30 |
schestowitz[TR] | it might tell you to be extra careful | Aug 21 23:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | they score point by | Aug 21 23:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | 1) fining | Aug 21 23:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | 1) solving | Aug 21 23:31 |
schestowitz[TR] | 3) framing | Aug 21 23:31 |
DaemonFC | https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/17/covid-longer-term-elevated-risk-brain-fog-dementia-study | Aug 21 23:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Covid linked to longer-term elevated risk of brain fog and dementia | Coronavirus | The Guardian | Aug 21 23:31 | |
schestowitz[TR] | so nothing good (for you) will come out of it | Aug 21 23:31 |
DaemonFC | And Mom didn't want to get on the pills for COVID. | Aug 21 23:31 |
DaemonFC | Ugh, the last thing I need is Mom in another state losing her mind. | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | guardian=bill gates | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | avoid, ignore | Aug 21 23:32 |
DaemonFC | She would have been so much better off. We all would have. If she had just left things the hell alone and stayed with Dad. | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | but the studies are real | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | link to the studies | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | not bill's guardian | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | cdc/nih published a study in july | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | I linked to that | Aug 21 23:32 |
schestowitz[TR] | guardian can go f*** themselves | Aug 21 23:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | in a plane with epstein | Aug 21 23:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | their sponsor's BFF | Aug 21 23:33 |
schestowitz[TR] | "don't kid yourself, bill" | Aug 21 23:33 |
techrights-news | BEING A CANADIAN FROM INDIA ⚓ http://tobkes.othellomaster.com/archives/2022/08/21/being-a-canadian/ | Aug 21 23:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tobkes.othellomaster.com | Harvey Tobkes » Blog Archive » RUSSELL PETERS TALKS ABOUT HIS DAD & BEING A CANADIAN FROM INDIA | Aug 21 23:36 | |
DaemonFC | I was checking out the Libertarian candidate for Senate. | Aug 21 23:38 |
DaemonFC | He wants a 19% flat tax (federal) on income. | Aug 21 23:38 |
*starstreak has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Aug 21 23:39 | |
*starstreak (~starstreak@muarsy2vret2q.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 23:40 | |
DaemonFC | That would be a disaster for us. | Aug 21 23:41 |
DaemonFC | Is there a political party that wouldn't be a disaster for us? | Aug 21 23:41 |
schestowitz[TR] | maybe unlawful ones | Aug 21 23:42 |
DaemonFC | For starters, the 19% flat tax isn't just "Oh well, you're all in a 19% flat tax, but there's this thing that exempts each person's first $12,950 in income and all these retirement tax credits.". | Aug 21 23:42 |
schestowitz[TR] | there is also no ranked voting system | Aug 21 23:42 |
DaemonFC | It means.....Hand over 19% of your income, now. | Aug 21 23:42 |
starstreak | desktop screenshot time: https://imgur.com/a/4XjEZAi | Aug 21 23:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Imgur: The magic of the Internet | Aug 21 23:43 | |
schestowitz[TR] | applies to corporations and oligarchs too? | Aug 21 23:43 |
DaemonFC | Right now we start out at 10% and get all of these deductions. | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | they don't declare "incoming" | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | they use loopholes | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | like stocks | Aug 21 23:43 |
*bnchs has quit (Ping timeout: 2m30s) | Aug 21 23:43 | |
schestowitz[TR] | and claim their salary is $1 | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | the media plays along | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | like it's a good joke | Aug 21 23:43 |
DaemonFC | So by the time you deduct everything, it's not even half the 10%. | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | when in fact it's a fraud | Aug 21 23:43 |
schestowitz[TR] | but we know who owns the media | Aug 21 23:43 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], I really doubt the 19% income tax would hurt Gates. | Aug 21 23:44 |
DaemonFC | They always figure out how to get money and it's not "income". | Aug 21 23:44 |
DaemonFC | That's a neat trick. | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | yes, his bank is in cayman | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | btw, cayman is remote | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | maybe he can even screw babies in there | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | and say it's legal | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | who knows.. | Aug 21 23:44 |
schestowitz[TR] | anyway, the media isn't investigating things anymore | Aug 21 23:44 |
DaemonFC | He'd have to renounce his US citizenship for it to be legal to have sex with anyone under 18 in another country. | Aug 21 23:45 |
DaemonFC | But if nobody goes after him, is it a law? | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | yes | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | US "law" | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | acosta let Epstein off the hook | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | it taook ages just to prosecute | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | or to indict | Aug 21 23:45 |
schestowitz[TR] | everyone knew | Aug 21 23:45 |
DaemonFC | It would be legal for me to have sex with someone who is 17 in Illinois. | Aug 21 23:46 |
DaemonFC | Because I'm not, like, a cop or THEIR teacher or a social worker. | Aug 21 23:46 |
DaemonFC | Maybe people would frown on that, but there's nothing the District Attorney could really do. | Aug 21 23:47 |
*bnchs (~bnchs@8cfmpgg5t5qde.irc) has joined #techrights | Aug 21 23:47 | |
DaemonFC | They keep introducing bills to bring it up to 18 but they never act on them. | Aug 21 23:47 |
schestowitz[TR] | "screwing while rich" is the new "walking while black" | Aug 21 23:47 |
techrights-news | Phaedrus Leeds: GUADEC 2022 Happenings https://blogs.gnome.org/mwleeds/2022/08/21/guadec-2022-happenings/ | Aug 21 23:48 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-blogs.gnome.org | GUADEC 2022 Happenings – Phaedrus Leeds' GNOME Blog | Aug 21 23:48 | |
DaemonFC | They also try to remove the affirmative defense of "I credibly thought they were 17.". | Aug 21 23:48 |
DaemonFC | Like, it's a decent defense because it's in the law itself. | Aug 21 23:48 |
DaemonFC | If a "reasonable person" would have thought they were 17, it's not illegal. | Aug 21 23:48 |
DaemonFC | So the "They lied to me and I didn't verify it." defense can get you off the hook if the jury agrees that they looked older. | Aug 21 23:49 |
techrights-news | The unavailable gadget we badly need to invent https://www.positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2022/08/19/the-unavailable-gadget-we-badly-need-to-invent/ | Aug 21 23:49 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.positech.co.uk | The unavailable gadget we badly need to invent – Cliffski's Blog | Aug 21 23:49 | |
DaemonFC | There was a bill to get rid of that defense in the current session. | Aug 21 23:49 |
DaemonFC | I think we're going into another burst of "puritanism". | Aug 21 23:50 |
techrights-news | Learning OCaml - (think) ⚓ https://batsov.com/articles/2022/08/19/learning-ocaml/ ䷉ Source: Bozhidar Batsov | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//batsov.com/articles/2022/08/19/learning-ocaml/ | Aug 21 23:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-batsov.com | Learning OCaml - (think) | Aug 21 23:50 | |
DaemonFC | There's "protecting young children" and then there's this. | Aug 21 23:50 |
techrights-news | People of Cook, you can make Josh the comeback kid - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/people-of-cook-you-can-make-josh-frydenberg-the-comeback-kid/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//michaelwest.com.au/people-of-cook-you-can-make-josh-frydenberg-the-comeback-kid/ | Aug 21 23:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | People of Cook, you can make Josh the comeback kid - Michael West | Aug 21 23:51 | |
DaemonFC | There's no evidence at all that juries across the Great State of ILL are being hoodwinked into letting pedophiles go on the "She told me she was older!" defense. | Aug 21 23:51 |
DaemonFC | And in some cases, it may be a good defense. Why are we removing something that the jury can and should consider? | Aug 21 23:51 |
techrights-news | Is this an affront to the constitution, or a lucky break for a bunch of precious people? - Michael West ⚓ https://michaelwest.com.au/is-this-an-affront-to-the-constitution-or-a-lucky-break-for-a-bunch-of-precious-people/ ䷉ Source: Michael West Media | Aug 21 23:51 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Is this an affront to the constitution, or a lucky break for a bunch of precious people? - Michael West | Aug 21 23:51 | |
DaemonFC | Whether a person could have been tricked into breaking the law through no fault of their own should always be something for the jury to consider and it should always be the right of the accused to say they got duped. | Aug 21 23:52 |
DaemonFC | Maybe the jury goes for it, maybe they don't. It's your right to tell them that. Or should be. | Aug 21 23:52 |
techrights-news | "The property market is a favourite for money launderers, forcing ordinary Australians to compete with organised crime for their dream home, says investigative author Nathan Lynch." https://michaelwest.com.au/lucky-laundry-review-aml-australia-property-money-laundering/ | Aug 21 23:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | 'Lucky Laundry' review: how Australia got caught in a toxic spin cycle - Michael West | Aug 21 23:52 | |
DaemonFC | We have politicians that want to strip everyone of their right to defend themselves in court. | Aug 21 23:52 |
DaemonFC | Once you have no right to say "Look, I didn't mean to do that!" and let the jury decide whether to believe it or show leniency, it all comes down to whether you can prove you did it or not. | Aug 21 23:53 |
techrights-news | "Qantas is trying to take over Alliance Airlines, a competitor in the lucrative FIFO market – the flying in and out of mine workers in remote locations. The ACCC is not so sure it’s a good idea, so what’s the scam?" https://michaelwest.com.au/qantas-takeover-of-alliance-airlines-stuttering-on-the-runway-whats-the-scam/ | Aug 21 23:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-michaelwest.com.au | Qantas takeover of Alliance Airlines stuttering on the runway, what's the scam? | Aug 21 23:53 | |
DaemonFC | There will be no room for leniency and there will be less justice than there is now as a result. | Aug 21 23:53 |
schestowitz[TR] | jury trialks are a joke in many contextx | Aug 21 23:54 |
schestowitz[TR] | as the jury has no knowledge if the problem domain | Aug 21 23:54 |
schestowitz[TR] | it's a show trial | Aug 21 23:54 |
DaemonFC | Yeah, which is the only reason I made a plea deal. | Aug 21 23:54 |
DaemonFC | The alternative was going to a show trial in a system that has a higher conviction rate than the Nazi People's Court. | Aug 21 23:54 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], I demanded a trial in the traffic case. | Aug 21 23:55 |
schestowitz[TR] | aka Sont Berlin? | Aug 21 23:55 |
schestowitz[TR] | *Sony | Aug 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | Nothing to lose there. | Aug 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | The cop hands you a ticket, you can pay it or fight it. | Aug 21 23:55 |
DaemonFC | If you fight and lose, you pay the ticket, which is no worse than paying the ticket. | Aug 21 23:55 |
starstreak | interesting, google wants to replace linux with this: https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/get-started/learn-fuchsia | Aug 21 23:56 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fuchsia.dev | Get started | Fuchsia | Aug 21 23:56 | |
DaemonFC | So in traffic cases, ALWAYS go to court and maybe something will fall through or you'll get a plea deal that's better than mailing it in with money. | Aug 21 23:56 |
starstreak | it'll run linux and android software | Aug 21 23:56 |
schestowitz[TR] | will? | Aug 21 23:56 |
DaemonFC | The worst has already happened when you get the ticket. | Aug 21 23:56 |
schestowitz[TR] | or was supposed to? | Aug 21 23:56 |
schestowitz[TR] | it seems to have gone nowehre | Aug 21 23:56 |
schestowitz[TR] | almost vapourware | Aug 21 23:57 |
starstreak | i just found out about it today | Aug 21 23:57 |
starstreak | maybe it is vapourware | Aug 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | schestowitz[TR], Yes, Sony's office in Berlin was the Nazi People's Court. | Aug 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | I knew that already. | Aug 21 23:57 |
schestowitz[TR] | it is an impressive building though | Aug 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | There has to be something at that address I suppose. | Aug 21 23:57 |
schestowitz[TR] | but commercial failure | Aug 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | Are they going to tear down every building because someone lost a war? | Aug 21 23:57 |
DaemonFC | <schestowitz[TR]> it is an impressive building though | Aug 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | Fascist architecture usually is superb because Fascism itself is going for a psychological effect. | Aug 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | You ever notice that the Nazis had really sharp uniforms too? | Aug 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | Nobody else had good looking uniforms like that. | Aug 21 23:58 |
DaemonFC | It's all about optics, Roy. | Aug 21 23:59 |
schestowitz[TR] | I cannot find photos from there | Aug 21 23:59 |
schestowitz[TR] | I thought we had taken some | Aug 21 23:59 |
DaemonFC | When you say you're creating a great society, you have to impress. With architecture. With uniforms. With pageantry. | Aug 21 23:59 |
schestowitz[TR] | maybe just didn't upload them | Aug 21 23:59 |
Generated by irclog2html.py
2.6 | ䷉ find the plain text version at this address (HTTP) or in Gemini (how to use Gemini) with a full GemText version.