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DaemonFC[m]You can take a lot of losses if you gouge the rest even harder.Jul 23 00:00
DaemonFC[m]None of this is new. There was an episode of Married With Children where Al Bundy got a credit card and Peg asked what he'd do when the bill arrived. He said let some sucker who pays their credit card bills worry about it.Jul 23 00:01
schestowitzWowJul 23 00:01
schestowitzI think I watched their episodes like 1000 if not 2000 timesJul 23 00:01
DaemonFC[m]We actually got a credit card for our dog in the 1990s.Jul 23 00:02
schestowitzit was on almost every day as I grew upJul 23 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It might have been Capital One.Jul 23 00:02
DaemonFC[m]It said Darla Farmer had been pre-approved and Darla was the dog.Jul 23 00:02
schestowitzstingy incompetent bastardJul 23 00:02
schestowitzI had to chase them for my travel expensesJul 23 00:02
MinceRlolJul 23 00:03
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: These banks want everyone to have credit cards. Lots of them. Bankruptcy doesn't matter to them at all. They never show up in court to fight it unless it's a LOT of money and you did something where it's slam dunk they'll win.Jul 23 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Even then, not always.Jul 23 00:04
DaemonFC[m]Well, the truth is they have AI software to feel out who is likely to have assets and they complain about those people.Jul 23 00:05
DaemonFC[m]They have AI to decide who to sue and in what order.Jul 23 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Robots for everything.Jul 23 00:05
schestowitztechrights under ddos attackJul 23 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Should have used Cloudflare.Jul 23 00:06
DaemonFC[m](Sorry.)Jul 23 00:06
schestowitzcan't use themJul 23 00:06
schestowitzthey can use youJul 23 00:06
MinceRlolJul 23 00:06
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, it was a joke.Jul 23 00:06
DaemonFC[m]Like Cloudflare.Jul 23 00:06
MinceR"haha, fat chance"Jul 23 00:06
schestowitzI'll stop httpdJul 23 00:06
schestowitzthey hammer on heavy CPU pages by the thousandsJul 23 00:06
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Have you considered just getting rid of the Javascript?Jul 23 00:07
MinceRwho's pissed off now? microsoft? :>Jul 23 00:07
schestowitzback online nowJul 23 00:07
schestowitzMinceR: hard to tellJul 23 00:07
MinceRjavascript hammers on the client, not the serverJul 23 00:07
schestowitzit has been on and off like this for weeksJul 23 00:07
schestowitzat least i am awakeJul 23 00:07
MinceRunless you're making the mistake of running something like nodejs, of courseJul 23 00:07
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft Loves Node.js!Jul 23 00:07
MinceR:>Jul 23 00:07
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: JS has nothing to do with itJul 23 00:08
MinceRhelps them sell the scam called typescript?Jul 23 00:08
schestowitzand to the server it's just a fileJul 23 00:08
schestowitzthe user side runs itJul 23 00:08
schestowitzif at allJul 23 00:08
DaemonFC[m]They said they open sources their Chakra "JScript" engine to make nodejs run better.Jul 23 00:08
DaemonFC[m]*sourcedJul 23 00:08
DaemonFC[m]According to Wikipedia, JavaScript and JScript are the same thing. Microsoft didn't want to talk to Sun about licensing the name.Jul 23 00:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 23/7/2020: Release of OpenRGB 0.3, DebianDay 2020 Coming http://techrights.org/2020/07/22/debianday-2020-coming/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/f334eaed-d78b-4a1f-9b0d-1618ef2bc9f1]Jul 23 00:09
DaemonFC[m]They came up with JScript by reverse engineering Netscape.Jul 23 00:09
schestowitzthis reminds meJul 23 00:10
schestowitzwhat ever happened to chakra linuxJul 23 00:10
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure it's not exactly the same thing. With Microsoft, when would it be?Jul 23 00:10
schestowitzit ran kde and looks okJul 23 00:10
schestowitzthen Microsoft stole their  naneJul 23 00:10
DaemonFC[m]so I went and looked and some old JScript engines supported conditional execution.Jul 23 00:10
schestowitznameJul 23 00:10
schestowitzand I always suspected by intentionJul 23 00:11
DaemonFC[m]So yeah, not exactly the same.Jul 23 00:11
schestowitzlike they did MAUI recentlyJul 23 00:11
DaemonFC[m]I don't know. I was the one that suggested packaging a few GTK apps with their own private GTK.Jul 23 00:11
DaemonFC[m]They actually did end up doing that.Jul 23 00:12
DaemonFC[m]The whole idea here really was to try to keep GTK and GNOME out of the system as much as possible.Jul 23 00:12
schestowitz1133 deadJul 23 00:12
schestowitz1122 yesterday iircJul 23 00:12
schestowitzyes, 1122 Jul 23 00:12
schestowitzEnd of May was around this ballparkJul 23 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Texas again.Jul 23 00:13
DaemonFC[m]+194 now.Jul 23 00:13
DaemonFC[m]Oh, they said that there would be no second shutdown and they're willing to risk your lives to prove it.Jul 23 00:14
MinceR:>Jul 23 00:15
MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/D94QEVsXYAAaw0m.jpgJul 23 00:15
DaemonFC[m]YepJul 23 00:15
schestowitzapt.Jul 23 00:24
schestowitz1149Jul 23 00:25
schestowitz1233 on May 19thJul 23 00:25
schestowitznothing this high since thenJul 23 00:25
schestowitz1147 june 2ndJul 23 00:26
schestowitztoday is higher so farJul 23 00:26
schestowitz29th I meantJul 23 00:27
DaemonFC[m]https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-indiana-face-mask-order-20200722-dwqtdnkvdrd4xdqlfznenqhwt4-story.htmlJul 23 00:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.chicagotribune.com | Indiana Gov. Eric Holcomb imposing statewide face mask order to slow the coronavirus spread - Chicago TribuneJul 23 00:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Well, it's getting to be a horrendous problem in the south.Jul 23 00:43
DaemonFC[m]While there is some of it here, it's obvious they have a far bigger problem down there.Jul 23 00:43
DaemonFC[m]The national numbers wouldn't be all that bad if they didn't have such horrible governors who waited for Trump to hold their dick for them when they took a leak.Jul 23 00:44
superkuhhttps://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/commentary-my-views-cloth-face-coverings-public-preventing-covid-19Jul 23 00:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cidrap.umn.edu | COMMENTARY: My views on cloth face coverings for the public for preventing COVID-19 | CIDRAPJul 23 00:50
DaemonFC[m]Half the total numbers for positive results today are in three states. California, Texas, and Florida.Jul 23 00:50
superkuhAre we just ignoring that they have the most population?Jul 23 00:50
superkuhIf you go per capita it's less pronounced.Jul 23 00:51
schestowitz#billgate loves black people. Like Donald Trump does. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gates16dec16-story.htmlJul 23 00:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Unintended victims of Gates Foundation generosity - Los Angeles TimesJul 23 00:51
superkuhAnd california is more like, say, Iowa.Jul 23 00:51
DaemonFC[m]Well, Florida is a little over twice the population of Illinois, but has about 12-13 times more cases per day lately.Jul 23 00:51
superkuhFlorida is special. It's as bad as Qatar.Jul 23 00:51
superkuhPer capita.Jul 23 00:51
DaemonFC[m]So it's not just population. It's the fact that it's a state of fucking idiots.Jul 23 00:51
DaemonFC[m]A whole state of them.Jul 23 00:51
DaemonFC[m]I looked at that butterfly ballot from 2000 and it was pretty clear where to mark it for Al Gore.Jul 23 00:52
DaemonFC[m]The media made it sound a lot worse than it was.Jul 23 00:52
DaemonFC[m]Listing Pat Buchanan where they did was an obvious trick to catch people who weren't all that smart.Jul 23 00:52
DaemonFC[m]But it was obvious how to vote for Al Gore.Jul 23 00:53
DaemonFC[m]The fact that they trolled stupid people and got a bunch of black Democrats is actually kind of.....Jul 23 00:53
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's something.Jul 23 00:53
DaemonFC[m]So because of that, now we're all voting on really terrible computers and we don't know that our vote is even being recorded, or is being recorded correctly.Jul 23 00:54
DaemonFC[m]Well, that's another thing. Jul 23 00:58
DaemonFC[m]John had a lot of insight on black people.Jul 23 00:59
DaemonFC[m]I can tell you he didn't hold them in high regard.Jul 23 00:59
DaemonFC[m]About the only things I do have in common with John, really are that he's an atheist, he's extremely nihilistic and has a fucked up sense of humor, and we both like Bernie Sanders. Jul 23 01:00
DaemonFC[m]I suppose being in the TSA would suit me in the sense that I could subject people to my petty torments. Jul 23 01:01
DaemonFC[m]I only do that to people I really don't like though.Jul 23 01:02
schestowitzqatar does lots of testingJul 23 01:02
schestowitzmore than FLJul 23 01:03
DaemonFC[m]Hey, at least I'm honest. I don't really care about COVID so much as long as it's nobody I know, and I'd be delighted to find out that Maricel or John got it.Jul 23 01:03
DaemonFC[m]Compartmentalize or the world will drive you absolutely crazy.Jul 23 01:04
DaemonFC[m]Nobody running this country gives a damn. Nobody gives a damn about what's not happening to them. Jul 23 01:05
DaemonFC[m]If anyone does care about anything right now it's that the economy is messed up and they're inconvenienced.Jul 23 01:06
DaemonFC[m]I would say we'll hit 200,000 dead by September 1st for sure at this rate.Jul 23 01:06
DaemonFC[m]The government will admit it when it happens, like it has with everything else.Jul 23 01:07
DaemonFC[m]Quietly, though.Jul 23 01:07
kingoffrance^^^Jul 23 01:10
MinceRyou don't get and keep positions of political power by giving a damn about what's supposed to be your jobJul 23 01:10
MinceRyou do by giving a damn about misleading the people who decide who gets that positionJul 23 01:11
kingoffranceIIRC thats what they did with barry seal and cia selling crack in LA for ollie north et. al. --- quietly admit in press conference X years later "yeah, we did that"Jul 23 01:11
kingoffrancerumsfield IIRCJul 23 01:11
DaemonFC[m]The CIA has overseen drug smuggling into the US for decades.Jul 23 01:12
DaemonFC[m]It kills black people and uses their money to fund terrorists who make sure that Communists don't take over South American countries. Jul 23 01:12
DaemonFC[m]Most of the people who are losing Obamacare insurance because they no longer have a job are black.Jul 23 01:13
DaemonFC[m]If COVID gets them, oh well. One less vote for Joe Biden. That's how Trump sees it and why he won't help them..Jul 23 01:14
DaemonFC[m]The leader of the 5% of Blacks who really do Love Trump (Herman Cain) is in an Atlanta hospital right now with COVID.Jul 23 01:16
DaemonFC[m]A gaffe is just when a politician accidentally tells the truth. When Biden said if you like Trump you're not really black, what he meant was the 5% who manage to get into a nice subdivision so that a white lady can call the police when they use the pool.Jul 23 01:17
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: rianne says your in law is called "the ambitious frog"Jul 23 01:18
schestowitzthere's a term for that in tagalogJul 23 01:18
schestowitzassociated with kiss from the princeJul 23 01:18
schestowitzambicio sa'ng bakiJul 23 01:19
DaemonFC[m]Ah yes, the famous story where the prince kisses the frog and turns her into a princess who gets on Chase, Capital One, and Citi, and takes out fraudulent credit cards, then when he gets pissed and threatens a divorce, says she's pregnant, then when that lie is falling apart, says she miscarried.Jul 23 01:19
DaemonFC[m]I remember that one. Jul 23 01:19
DaemonFC[m]They used to tell it to us in preschool quite often. Jul 23 01:20
schestowitzso tell mandy, ambicio sa'ng bakiJul 23 01:20
schestowitzhe might get THAT jokeJul 23 01:20
schestowitzunlike all those other jokesJul 23 01:21
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I started to realize what she was pretty quickly. They say "Don't bullshit a bullshitter." for a reason.Jul 23 01:21
schestowitz+6,919 dead todayJul 23 01:21
schestowitzhighest ever was over 8000 back in AprilJul 23 01:21
DaemonFC[m]She has a habit of lying to get herself to the next dishonesty, I've noticed.Jul 23 01:21
schestowitz71k+ new cases in US, but who's counting? They're 'rate-limiting' testss nowJul 23 01:22
DaemonFC[m]Sooner or later, their finances will collapse, or they'll be arrested for something.Jul 23 01:22
schestowitzUS 1207Jul 23 01:22
schestowitztotal 7107, we're supposed to lower these numbers, no?Jul 23 01:22
schestowitzintl' lockdows not enough, I supposeJul 23 01:22
DaemonFC[m]NoJul 23 01:22
DaemonFC[m]MOARJul 23 01:22
schestowitzand billie G is looking to profit from this whole thingJul 23 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Remember. Masks are for pussies.Jul 23 01:23
schestowitzthey ALREADY test on human subject some vaccineJul 23 01:23
schestowitzwithout proper authorisationJul 23 01:23
DaemonFC[m]That black guy told Mandy that.Jul 23 01:23
schestowitzthey found themselves some black people to experiment on againJul 23 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, but it's not in the US so they don't have to worry about liability.Jul 23 01:23
DaemonFC[m]Nuance!Jul 23 01:23
schestowitzthe poorer, the betterJul 23 01:24
schestowitzthey cannot hire laywersJul 23 01:24
schestowitztechrights wrote a lot about this one decade agoJul 23 01:24
schestowitzand maybe people are enlightened by this a decade too lateJul 23 01:24
schestowitzi think billG struggles to bribe ENOUGH media at this pointJul 23 01:25
schestowitzas the public discussion turned against him some months agoJul 23 01:25
schestowitzand that lowers his capacity to run countries through their officialsJul 23 01:25
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, most of it is crazy shit.Jul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:44] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Almost 600 #covid19 deaths today in #southafrica where Rich Uncle (West) is doing all those dodgy experiments on human subjects right now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_subject_research [https://pleroma.site/objects/3485b826-a69b-4710-97b2-4dc8a2667803]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Human subject research - WikipediaJul 23 01:25
DaemonFC[m]That he wants to microchip people due to Agenda 21 bike lanes.Jul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:46] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #bigpharma firms and #billgates : buy our drugs; we test them on "brown skins", for 'free', so we can sell them at $1000 a piece to people with "white skins" (unless too many "brown people" died, angering their government). Roll up the sleeve. [https://pleroma.site/objects/31a6ae64-0df7-4958-a735-c84e723d4b42]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:48] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #euractiv will not tell you this anymore. But #billgates is bribing it, repeatedly, to issue puff pieces such as this. I call it #bribery and they call it "reporting". #corruption https://www.euractiv.com/section/health-consumers/news/gates-foundation-call... [https://pleroma.site/objects/18ba33bd-21dc-4122-94c9-da47e665140f]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:50] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): "Gates Foundation CEO on COVID vaccines," says another #billgates -bribed publication. They want to rush clinical trials that typically take 15 years... doing it in a few months instead. This is INSANE! [https://pleroma.site/objects/6621e982-1883-46fd-a500-43b9223d506d]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Gates Foundation calls for global cooperation on vaccine for 7 billion people – EURACTIV.comJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:51] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #billgate loves black people. Like Donald Trump does. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gates16dec16-story.html [https://pleroma.site/objects/30f90969-4df4-4495-bd04-9365f6957298]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:52] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Quit Calling #BillGates a Liberal http://techrights.org/2020/06/13/bill-gates-not-a-liberal/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/8458da40-a8dc-46b1-8241-312483ac215e]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.latimes.com | Unintended victims of Gates Foundation generosity - Los Angeles TimesJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:53] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #Trump Praises #Africa for Making “So Many Friends” Rich https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/09/donald-trump-un-africa #billgates is one of those friends. Gates and #trup met a lot [https://pleroma.site/objects/388dbd8e-121f-4027-bff9-462bdf78182a]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:55] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Maybe a lot of #trump fans dislike #billgates but Trump not only liked him, he wanted Gates on his team https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/30/17303086/bill-gates-trump-white-house-science-advisor [https://pleroma.site/objects/2d6014ee-4bb1-4059-804f-5adc602e005b]Jul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:56] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): 2016: Guest Post on #BillGates and Donald #Trump http://techrights.org/2016/12/17/bill-gates-and-donald-trump/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/9d12fc1e-0bf4-4dd0-8fbd-3aad36ce089a]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Quit Calling Bill Gates a Liberal | TechrightsJul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:58] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Human experimentation for private multinationals looking to make billions https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/south-africa-starts-testing-covid-19-vaccine/ "funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation." [https://pleroma.site/objects/fe60a821-28e4-4be9-929b-61e73ad76397]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.vanityfair.com | Trump Praises Africa for Making “So Many Friends” Rich | Vanity FairJul 23 01:25
schestowitz[00:59] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #GatesFoundation is not a charity. It is a #scam run by a criminal repeatedly arrested for actual crimes. http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique [https://pleroma.site/objects/d470efc6-d637-4e84-82fb-e45858411cf5]Jul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Bill Gates told Trump that being his science adviser is ‘not a good use of my time’ - The VergeJul 23 01:25
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it's being saturated with crazy shitJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:26
schestowitzthat's the interntionJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Guest Post on Bill Gates and Donald Trump | TechrightsJul 23 01:26
schestowitzthey try to discredit his criticsJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:26
schestowitzand the nuts help that objectiveJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globalcitizen.org | South Africa Started Testing a COVID-19 Vaccine This Week. Here’s Why It’s a Big Deal.Jul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - TechrightsJul 23 01:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 01:26
schestowitzto distract from the wheatJul 23 01:26
schestowitzchaff aplentyJul 23 01:26
schestowitzthe anonq crapJul 23 01:26
schestowitzso people who wrote legitimate stuff about legit issue are now seen in a negative lightJul 23 01:26
schestowitzby associationJul 23 01:26
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/21/893406577/as-protections-expire-millions-of-americans-face-threats-of-evictionJul 23 01:30
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | It 'Looks Very Scary For Renters' As Federal Eviction Relief Expiration Nears : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPRJul 23 01:30
DaemonFC[m]File bankruptcy immediately. That's probably the best you can do.Jul 23 01:30
DaemonFC[m]Takes several months to discharge and so you get more time in the apartment than the bankruptcy filing cost.Jul 23 01:31
DaemonFC[m]It's looking like Adversarial Proceedings are falling.Jul 23 01:33
DaemonFC[m]Fewer creditors challenging the bankruptcy filings, on average.Jul 23 01:33
DaemonFC[m]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-17/mall-owner-cbl-prepares-to-file-for-bankruptcy-as-retailers-failJul 23 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mall Owner CBL Prepares to File for Bankruptcy Protection - BloombergJul 23 01:35
DaemonFC[m]https://seekingalpha.com/article/4359863-first-reit-bankruptcy-since-2009-new-institutional-data-source-and-updated-sector-outlookJul 23 01:35
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-seekingalpha.com | The First REIT Bankruptcy Since 2009, A New Institutional Data Source, And Our Updated Sector Outlook | Seeking AlphaJul 23 01:35
DaemonFC[m]So that's, combined, the owners of well over 1,000 shopping malls in the US.Jul 23 01:36
DaemonFC[m]Filing  bankruptcy on the same day.Jul 23 01:36
kingoffranceyes, agreed. us schools had ms stuff for decades...now all of a sudden the "conservatives" turn on him?Jul 23 01:37
kingoffrances/had/have/Jul 23 01:38
kingoffranceschools, courts, ...anything and everythingJul 23 01:38
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I told John I wouldn't invest in REITs a couple years ago.Jul 23 01:38
kingoffranceeven to take some data entry WPM test probably had to use msJul 23 01:38
DaemonFC[m]I said they're going to get absolutely killed in the next recession.Jul 23 01:38
kingoffrancehow many employers still only want ms word resumes? plentyJul 23 01:39
DaemonFC[m]<kingoffrance "even to take some data entry WPM"> The unemployment offices in Indiana had "learn MS Office" classes for data entry.Jul 23 01:39
kingoffrancewelll yeah that tooJul 23 01:39
kingoffrance"basic computer skills" == ms officeJul 23 01:39
kingoffrance"computer 101" == ms windowsJul 23 01:40
kingoffranceprogramming 101 == programming on ms windowsJul 23 01:40
kingoffranceeven a c(++) class == c(++) on ms windowsJul 23 01:41
DaemonFC[m]It says mall traffic is down nearly 80% vs. normal.Jul 23 01:42
kingoffrancemaybe thats changed, but hard for me to take the "turn" seriouslyJul 23 01:42
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's impossible to operate like that.Jul 23 01:42
DaemonFC[m]Nothing to do there. No restaurants. No theaters.Jul 23 01:42
kingoffrancei did have one cc teacher who was able, with much pushing no doubt, get it down to "just make sure your program runs on my windows laptop...use whatever lang you want"Jul 23 01:44
DaemonFC[m]https://www.marketwatch.com/story/briggs-stratton-files-for-chapter-11-bankruptcy-as-pandemic-weighs-on-business-2020-07-20Jul 23 01:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Briggs & Stratton files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy as pandemic weighs on business - MarketWatchJul 23 01:46
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's kind of interesting how many layoffs Microsoft is making while it says it's doing very well.Jul 23 01:58
DaemonFC[m]They were sure to run a bunch of commercials for "Teams" lately.Jul 23 01:58
DaemonFC[m]Closing down their stores probably does help. At this point they're just a place to buy a laptop really.Jul 23 01:58
DaemonFC[m]That old commercial with the Chromebook and "Pawn Stars" is even funnier and more desperate-looking years later.Jul 23 01:59
DaemonFC[m]The Chromebook can run most Linux apps through the Debian container, and it does it quite well.Jul 23 01:59
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I'm trying to find something to hate about Kubuntu but I'm not.Jul 23 02:00
DaemonFC[m]No weird bugs. Performs well enough.Jul 23 02:00
DaemonFC[m]They don't have that truly awful kdepim stuff.Jul 23 02:01
DaemonFC[m]They just have Thunderbird, which is what I want to use anyway.Jul 23 02:01
schestowitzKubuntu should be OKJul 23 02:02
schestowitzI first adopted it in 2009, as a beta IIRC, as you recommended it to me in IRc hereJul 23 02:02
schestowitzI had used Mandriva Spring before thatJul 23 02:02
schestowitz2008.1 IIRCJul 23 02:02
schestowitzfor a beta back then Kubuntu was relatively solidJul 23 02:03
schestowitzyou said it would work ok and it didJul 23 02:03
DaemonFC[m]There's a few distributions that do KDE well. There's some that really don't.Jul 23 02:13
DaemonFC[m]I'd say that at this point, Fedora should drop the KDE spin.Jul 23 02:13
schestowitzdebian does it okJul 23 02:13
DaemonFC[m]They're not taking good care of it and they got rid of one person who was interested in it.Jul 23 02:14
schestowitzMicrosoft said it would build edge for linuxJul 23 02:14
schestowitzso...Jul 23 02:14
schestowitzno koflerJul 23 02:14
schestowitzno falkanJul 23 02:15
DaemonFC[m]The get KDE section seems to prefer Kubuntu, OpenSUSE, and Debian.Jul 23 02:15
schestowitzmaybe erich can compile edge for fedora in visual studio Jul 23 02:15
schestowitzor run with wineJul 23 02:15
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, Rex Dieter said he let Kofler add it as a "trial".Jul 23 02:15
schestowitzsince he uses win+edgeJul 23 02:15
schestowitzi use falkon to frack all the covid stuffJul 23 02:16
schestowitzmostly thatJul 23 02:16
schestowitzit's in the same virt desktop as ircJul 23 02:16
schestowitzanyway, better get some sleep nowJul 23 02:16
schestowitzbblJul 23 02:16
DaemonFC[m]Yep.Jul 23 02:21
DaemonFC[m]I don't know who would run Edge for Linux.Jul 23 02:21
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure someone is that demented.Jul 23 02:21
DaemonFC[m]The fact that they haven't already ported it and it could easily be done tells you that they probably don't think most people would use it.Jul 23 02:21
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft has a history of porting things and then abandoning it soon after anyway.Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFC[m]Remember "IE for UNIX".Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFC[m]They wrote an entirely new rendering engine to get an IE on Mac and then abandoned it in 2003.Jul 23 02:22
DaemonFC[m]Didn't even last 5 years.Jul 23 02:23
DaemonFC[m]Steve Ballmer was responsible for the wasted effort that went into IE for UNIX and the Windows Source Code Leak.Jul 23 02:24
DaemonFC[m]Never noticed that. Paul Thurrott's blog incorrectly states that MainSoft was "porting Microsoft programs to Linux" when he wrote that in 2004.Jul 23 02:27
DaemonFC[m]From the man who also said that Apple was working to license "the vastly superior WMA for the iPod" and that "WMA will replace AAC at Apple".Jul 23 02:28
DaemonFC[m]https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/21/21265995/xbox-source-code-leak-original-console-windows-3-5Jul 23 02:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Xbox and Windows NT 3.5 source code leaks online - The VergeJul 23 02:33
DaemonFC[m]I didn't notice that.Jul 23 02:33
DaemonFC[m]Facebook has tracking code on the bankruptcy court's website.Jul 23 02:35
DaemonFC[m]That's nice.Jul 23 02:35
MinceRfuckerberg wants to know all about bankruptciesJul 23 02:38
MinceRand the bankruptcy court wants him to know, too!Jul 23 02:38
DaemonFC[m]Goes along with your social reputation score.Jul 23 02:45
DaemonFC[m]Facebook gathers all sorts of data and gives it to companies who are evaluating loan and housing applications.Jul 23 02:46
DaemonFC[m]Facebook gets detailed information from Grindr, including your HIV status and last testing date if it's there.Jul 23 02:46
DaemonFC[m]You start getting ads for everything from gay cruises to PrEP to "Have you been hurt by HIV drugs?".Jul 23 02:47
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: If Facebook is interested if you're gay and taking Truvada, sure they're interested in if you're filing bankruptcy.Jul 23 02:49
DaemonFC[m]They can sell that information off to third parties before it's on your credit report.Jul 23 02:50
DaemonFC[m]Remember. Facebook is "free" and it "always will be". :)Jul 23 02:52
DaemonFC[m]https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/07/22/894184607/u-s-to-get-100-million-doses-of-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-in-1-95-billion-dealJul 23 02:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.npr.org | Pfizer, U.S. Reach $1.95 Billion Coronavirus Vaccine Deal : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPRJul 23 02:55
DaemonFC[m]"during the pandemic"Jul 23 02:55
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, they're anticipating "COVID" season now.Jul 23 02:55
DaemonFC[m]They want a mass vaccination campaign and then if you want to avoid whatever the Coronavirus morphs into that year you have to keep coming up with your own money.Jul 23 02:56
MinceRremember, if you use fecesbook, fuckerberg thinks you're a "dumb fuck" for "trusting him"Jul 23 03:04
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kingoffranceyeah i think lunduke said he tested some of those ms on unix productsJul 23 03:12
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psydreadeven Skype and Teams are dysfunctional on macOS, so I don't expect much from them on LinuxJul 23 04:27
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oiaohmXRevan86: there are cases of what called unidentificable viral pneumonia deaths in some places that is suspected to be covid-19.   Reason why its unidentifiable is the body was cremated while they were out of tests.Jul 23 05:50
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: https://science.slashdot.org/story/20/07/21/2144207/covid-19-vaccines-with-minor-side-effects-could-still-be-pretty-bad   Horrible as it sounds depend on the vaccine it could kill as many people as covid-19.   So its kind of important what vaccine.   Slightly dangerous vaccines are fine for front line staff not for general population.Jul 23 05:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-science.slashdot.org | COVID-19 Vaccines With 'Minor Side Effects' Could Still Be Pretty Bad - SlashdotJul 23 05:54
oiaohmpsydread: https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.microsoft.Teams  Microsoft teams is a stupid one that it works better on Linux than  macOS at the moment.Jul 23 05:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flathub.org | Flathub—An app store and build service for LinuxJul 23 05:56
oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: what makes the Oxford covid-19 vaccine so horrible is that it is in fact a live virus itself of another class modified to make human body make anti-bodies that will take out the covid-19 virus as well.    But its a type of virus human body will long term remember where covid-19 in in a class of virus our body seams to be programed to forget.Jul 23 05:59
oiaohmThere is a big difference between live vaccines and dead ones.  Oxford covid-19 one is the scary live vaccine class.Jul 23 06:00
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oiaohmMinceR: https://events.gnome.org/event/1/contributions/80/attachments/7/14/gnomeos-hardware-guadec2020-handout.pdf   << gnome is finally get around to making own distribution.Jul 23 06:12
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schestowitz[02:55] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.npr.org | Pfizer, U.S. Reach $1.95 Billion Coronavirus Vaccine Deal : Coronavirus Live Updates : NPRJul 23 06:59
schestowitzBill Gates is repeatedly bribing NPRJul 23 06:59
schestowitzSo it's no longer credible on these issuesJul 23 06:59
schestowitzit last bribed them 2 years ago, at least, and he did several times even a decade agoJul 23 06:59
schestowitzwe wrote about thatJul 23 06:59
schestowitznow they try to paint all his critics as nutsJul 23 06:59
schestowitzPfizer is now taking money from taxpayers, againJul 23 07:00
schestowitzwith Gates as shareholderJul 23 07:00
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schestowitzhttps://twitter.com/csolisr/status/1285293014936682496Jul 23 07:24
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@csolisr: @tuxmachines Could this be the cheap alternative to the Talos for people searching for a free hardware architecture? I sure hope soJul 23 07:24
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schestowitzLots and lots of Linux "training" spam this monthJul 23 07:37
schestowitzlike this https://boingboing.net/2020/07/22/supercomputers-prefer-linux-a.htmlJul 23 07:37
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-boingboing.net | Supercomputers prefer Linux. And after this training, you might prefer it too. / Boing BoingJul 23 07:37
schestowitzand about a dozen moreJul 23 07:37
schestowitzpushing "courses" and "bundles"Jul 23 07:37
schestowitzand being paid to shill for very expensive "training"Jul 23 07:37
schestowitz"LINUX" is becoming an industry even to Microsoft allies like CompTIaJul 23 07:38
schestowitzthey don't care about LinuxJul 23 07:38
schestowitzthey use that for money onlyJul 23 07:38
schestowitzhttp://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/diary/daily/2020-Jul-23.html.en#2020-Jul-23-08:59:27Jul 23 07:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.netfort.gr.jp | Joys of sshfs slave mode.Jul 23 07:38
schestowitzthis is in planet debianJul 23 07:38
schestowitzI think Junichi Uekawa is testing themJul 23 07:39
schestowitzlast month he complained about word bans, saying it would achieve too little. Now: "Joy... slave"Jul 23 07:39
schestowitz[06:12] <oiaohm> MinceR: https://events.gnome.org/event/1/contributions/80/attachments/7/14/gnomeos-hardware-guadec2020-handout.pdf   << gnome is finally get around to making own distribution.Jul 23 07:42
schestowitzI see it's in phoronix nowJul 23 07:43
schestowitz<a href="https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=GNOME-OS-GUADEC-2020">GNOME OS Is Taking Shape But Its To Serve For Testing The Desktop</a>Jul 23 07:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GNOME OS Is Taking Shape But Its To Serve For Testing The Desktop - PhoronixJul 23 07:43
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schestowitzanother one of those https://www.extremetech.com/deals/313067-linux-can-earn-you-a-six-figure-paycheck-this-training-can-be-your-foot-in-the-doorJul 23 07:50
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Linux Can Earn You A Six-Figure Paycheck. This Training Can Be Your Foot In The Door - ExtremeTechJul 23 07:50
schestowitzLinux Foundation Newsletter: July 2020 https://www.linuxfoundation.org/blog/2020/07/linux-foundation-newsletter-july-2020/ it still runs on MICROSOFT WINDOWS!!!!! http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/proprietary-iis-and-windows-foundation/Jul 23 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.linuxfoundation.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter: July 2020 - The Linux FoundationJul 23 07:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Linux Foundation Newsletter is Microsoft Windows and Proprietary IIS | TechrightsJul 23 07:53
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psydreadThat Polarfire board isn't a direct alternative to Talos, but it's definitely a lot cheaper. And if they keep iterating on it, they may eventually end up with something that can somewhat compete on performance.Jul 23 08:57
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MinceRschestowitz: ah, so fedora/rHELL/centos' days are numbered :>Jul 23 11:28
MinceRoopsJul 23 11:29
MinceRoiaohm: ^Jul 23 11:29
MinceR23 052757 < psydread> even Skype and Teams are dysfunctional on macOS, so I don't expect much from them on LinuxJul 23 11:29
MinceRteams is also dysfunctional in the browserJul 23 11:29
MinceRand also when you aren't even using itJul 23 11:29
MinceRmicrosloth finally invented the "Instant Messenger" that's so slow even their own mail server is fasterJul 23 11:30
psydreadI've never used it, but I read that it doesn't pick up the microphone on macOSJul 23 11:30
MinceRwell, it's as shitty as you'd expect a microshit product to beJul 23 11:30
XRevan86"there are cases of what called unidentificable viral pneumonia deaths in some places that is suspected to be covid-19.   Reason why its unidentifiable is the body was cremated while they were out of tests." oiaohm: Isn't about cremation in Ufa.Jul 23 11:43
oiaohmXRevan86: there is are some other areas where it regligion requirements to be burried inside 24/48 hours of death as well.Jul 23 11:44
oiaohmXRevan86: some others no supply at tests at all.Jul 23 11:47
MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20021042Jul 23 12:10
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XRevan86oiaohm: Being untested is key, that seems to be pretty obvious.Jul 23 12:11
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20021021Jul 23 14:10
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schestowitzMinceR: would be funny if Duhmer actually said thatJul 23 15:47
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MinceRhttps://insighthungary.444.hu/2020/07/22/indexhu-editor-in-chief-fired-amid-fears-of-takeoverJul 23 16:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-insighthungary.444.hu | Index.hu editor-in-chief fired amid fears of takeover - InsightHungaryJul 23 16:51
MinceRironic how bodolai firing Dull for changing the status at szabadindex.eu only proves that Index is in dangerJul 23 16:54
MinceRthese dumbass nazis can't do anything with subtletyJul 23 16:54
MinceRalso, someone was sentenced to 3 years of probation (which can be appealed yet) for referring to some fideath-member sub-mayor as "a dick"Jul 23 16:57
MinceRthat's how the "illiberal democracy" has "freedom of speech"Jul 23 16:57
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MinceR(not that this "dick" is a public figure, and is thus expected to be open for criticism even more than others, under the pre-nazi legal system)Jul 23 16:58
MinceRi hope they take it to the ECHR so that bag of useless dicks can also sign that they, too, don't give a shit about freedom of speech anymore, only about how cultists were somehow offendedJul 23 16:59
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/2002108Jul 23 17:06
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MinceRs/\(not/(note/Jul 23 17:06
schestowitzMinceR: sounds like attack on media again?Jul 23 17:08
MinceRyupJul 23 17:09
MinceRturns out the nazis got ownership of index long ago, but didn't dare do much about itJul 23 17:09
MinceRbut they decided they want it either gone or just another repeater of their propaganda by the time the 2022 pretense of election comes aroundJul 23 17:09
schestowitzI think they helped techrightsJul 23 17:09
schestowitzwhen covering some aspects and storiesJul 23 17:09
schestowitzit used to be a good siteJul 23 17:10
MinceRit still is, but people are leavingJul 23 17:10
MinceRand it probably won't exist in its current form for longJul 23 17:10
schestowitzfamiliar patternJul 23 17:10
schestowitzin russian mediaJul 23 17:10
schestowitzeven ukJul 23 17:10
schestowitze.g. guardianJul 23 17:10
MinceRwell, the gypsy king is playing from putler's notesJul 23 17:11
schestowitzthat's orban's nick?Jul 23 17:11
MinceRi call him gypsy king since he's a gypsy and he acts like he's the kingJul 23 17:11
schestowitzking of 'anti-EU'Jul 23 17:11
MinceRoh, also, because he removed the "republic" from the official name of the countryJul 23 17:11
schestowitzpubic of HungaryJul 23 17:12
schestowitzpubic of dick orbanJul 23 17:12
MinceRapparently even the word "republic" offends these fascist shitpilesJul 23 17:12
schestowitzused to be part of an empireJul 23 17:12
schestowitzwith AustriaJul 23 17:12
schestowitznot a bit empire, albeit self-named oneJul 23 17:12
schestowitzmaybe he wants that backJul 23 17:12
MinceRunlikelyJul 23 17:12
schestowitzlike erdogan with OttomanJul 23 17:13
schestowitzliving up past gloryJul 23 17:13
MinceRafaik nazis don't hold that much sway in austria even nowJul 23 17:13
schestowitzlike Brexit with british Empire memoriesJul 23 17:13
MinceRand orban won't be a lackey to anyone except putinJul 23 17:13
schestowitzRussia FirstJul 23 17:13
schestowitzAmerica SecndJul 23 17:13
MinceRso maybe if putin had himself crowned emperor of austria, then maybeJul 23 17:13
schestowitzHungary FourthJul 23 17:13
schestowitzOrban ThirdJul 23 17:13
schestowitzif Trumputin lets himJul 23 17:14
schestowitzrepublic is not a dirty wordJul 23 17:14
schestowitzwhat's the logic behind omitted that?Jul 23 17:14
MinceRto them, it's a dirty wordJul 23 17:14
schestowitzit's not implying race or empireJul 23 17:14
MinceRlike "liberal"Jul 23 17:14
schestowitzwhy?Jul 23 17:14
MinceRbecause they're extreme authoritariansJul 23 17:14
schestowitzliberal just means free-leaningJul 23 17:15
schestowitzlibertarian = libertyJul 23 17:15
MinceRthe gypsy king can't stand the idea of being responsible to the peopleJul 23 17:15
schestowitzliberal like liberateJul 23 17:15
schestowitze.g. the slaves, whatever...Jul 23 17:15
schestowitzweirdJul 23 17:15
schestowitzautocrats like "republic"Jul 23 17:15
MinceRin hungary, "liberal" means everything and everybody who isn't orban or one of his worshipersJul 23 17:15
schestowitzRussia has "federation" nowJul 23 17:15
MinceRin uhmerica, "liberal" means everything that isn't "conservative" (i.e. christian fundamentalist fascist)Jul 23 17:16
schestowitzthey turned it into a 'dirty' word, yes...Jul 23 17:18
schestowitzderegulation goodJul 23 17:19
schestowitzliberalism goodJul 23 17:19
schestowitztrickle up goodJul 23 17:19
schestowitzpeople with low IQ can be sold lies easilyJul 23 17:19
MinceRwas the "PATRIOT" act "deregulation"?Jul 23 17:19
schestowitzthey trust what Trump trustsJul 23 17:19
schestowitzMurdoch Noise, e.g. FOxJul 23 17:19
schestowitzMinceR: for governmentJul 23 17:19
schestowitzand gov. powerJul 23 17:19
schestowitzless oversight, more leeway to go ad hocJul 23 17:19
MinceRwas the lolJul 23 17:20
MinceRs/.{8}//Jul 23 17:20
MinceRyeah, and government that enforces religious rules is "small government"Jul 23 17:20
MinceRi wish "conservatives" were about what they keep claim being about, but they're notJul 23 17:20
schestowitz"Small government" for small-peckered peasantsJul 23 17:21
schestowitzwho compensate for it by "bearing arms"Jul 23 17:21
schestowitzand killing bearsJul 23 17:21
schestowitz"look me; I killed as grizzly"Jul 23 17:21
MinceRno, bearing arms compensates for human bodies being weak and lacking fangs and talonsJul 23 17:22
schestowitzthey have fistsJul 23 17:22
schestowitzand can suffocate peopleJul 23 17:22
schestowitzpeople are bad at killing thingsJul 23 17:22
schestowitzthey need "tools"Jul 23 17:22
schestowitzand they make up for in it in nature by making colonies and large groups like gazellesJul 23 17:23
schestowitzhumans don't cope well in natureJul 23 17:23
schestowitzesp. in small numbersJul 23 17:23
schestowitzthey can only bear one offspring at a time, usuallyJul 23 17:23
MinceRfists are weakJul 23 17:23
schestowitzand the offspring depend on them for many years, sometimes the parent dies during labourJul 23 17:24
schestowitzhumans shake handsJul 23 17:24
schestowitzto pass the germsJul 23 17:24
MinceR"Shake hand, Kiss baby, Shake hand, kiss baby, Shake hand, Kiss hand, Shake baby, Shake baby, Kiss hand, Shake baby, Shake baby, kiss hand."Jul 23 17:25
MinceR(cat) https://ircz.de/p/20020814Jul 23 17:37
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DaemonFC[m]We mean, pay us.Jul 23 17:58
DaemonFC[m]MinceR I think paywalls was one reason why Mozilla made it hard to disable scripting.Jul 23 17:59
DaemonFC[m]Ah, cars.Jul 23 18:01
DaemonFC[m]Mirrors weren't modern. They didn't need thousands of dollars worth of computers and sensors with proprietary software.Jul 23 18:01
DaemonFC[m]Had to be replaced.Jul 23 18:01
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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: "take back the web", my assJul 23 18:29
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DaemonFC[m]<MinceR "DaemonFC: "take back the web", m"> I reimplemented Chrome and all I got was this stupid t-shirt.Jul 23 18:42
DaemonFC[m]It's always re-assuring to pull in a systemd update on a LTS OS and see over 100 .patch files instead of a point update.Jul 23 18:44
schestowitzTake back the monopoly, in house... http://techrights.org/2020/06/22/mozilla-board/Jul 23 18:45
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DaemonFC[m]:)Jul 23 18:45
schestowitz173 dead so far today in FloridaJul 23 18:45
schestowitzmaybe another new high since MatJul 23 18:46
schestowitz*MayJul 23 18:46
schestowitztx and ca still at 0Jul 23 18:46
DaemonFC[m]At lest we have a $7 trillion federal response that involves bringing us to Hand Sanitizer Alert without any hand sanitizer on the shelf. Trump is such a great president.Jul 23 18:47
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MinceRDaemonFC[m]: lolJul 23 18:47
DaemonFC[m]"There's no problem with the food supply chain."Jul 23 18:48
DaemonFC[m]Then everyone in every state rushes the store to buy everything.Jul 23 18:48
DaemonFC[m]It got so bad that Walmart even sold out of Tuna Helper. Jul 23 18:48
MinceRwhat's a Hand Sanitizer Alert?Jul 23 18:48
MinceR"start washing your filthy hands already, you filthy savages!"?Jul 23 18:48
DaemonFC[m]It's the pandemic equivalent of buy duct tape because of a month of wall to wall Fox News coverage of a "dirty bomb" when there is no dirty bomb and Bush wants to scare people into supporting the invasion of Iraq.Jul 23 18:49
DaemonFC[m]There are many uses for duct tape and plastic.Jul 23 18:49
DaemonFC[m]You might wrap up your dead family members after the dirty bomb or the Swine Flu or COVID-19.Jul 23 18:49
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DaemonFC[m]You'll need something to tape the plastic with.Jul 23 18:50
DaemonFC[m]Duct tape is versatile.Jul 23 18:50
DaemonFC[m]You can also use it to build a plastic enclosure inside your house which is great for keeping the dirty bomb out nyaaaah.Jul 23 18:50
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DaemonFC[m]While you are inside plastic enclosure held together by duct tape, eating Jim Bakker's potato soup, you can wait for the "I'm from the government and I'm here to help." people to arrive.Jul 23 18:51
MinceRlolJul 23 18:53
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DaemonFC[m]https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Jul23.html#item-5Jul 23 18:55
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MinceRhttps://ircz.de/p/20020927Jul 23 18:55
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4343978)Jul 23 18:55
DaemonFC[m]We secretly replaced their Coronavirus pandemic with the delightful taste of Folgers Crystals. Let's see if they find out.Jul 23 18:55
schestowitzArizona +89Jul 23 18:57
schestowitzat least we know where bags and duct tapes are goingJul 23 18:58
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DaemonFC[m]I'd do grocery delivery except Waukegan is the Illinois of Illinois.Jul 23 18:59
DaemonFC[m]They'd drop it at the corner and drive off and someone would steal my groceries.Jul 23 18:59
DaemonFC[m]Someone was talking about things breaking after a minor version bumpJul 23 19:01
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Better switch to systemd where it's a rolling grub 0.97 of system management interfaces."Jul 23 19:01
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: My favorite part of grub 0.97 was that every distribution decided witch patches to throw around and apply to it because upstream gave up on supporting it.Jul 23 19:01
DaemonFC[m]So Mandriva and Ubuntu had a patch that let it boot up an XFS file system, and Fedora didn't.Jul 23 19:02
DaemonFC[m]I asked Eric Sandeen why and he said "Because grub 0.97 is terrible and it usually boots XFS fine but we've seen too many corner cases where it just goes ahead and corrupts the entire file system.".Jul 23 19:02
DaemonFC[m]So even if you patched Anaconda to allow it, Grub wouldn't see a file system there if you used Fedora.Jul 23 19:03
DaemonFC[m]The solution was to put /boot on an Ext file system.Jul 23 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Where it usually didn't corrupt the file system.Jul 23 19:03
DaemonFC[m]Mostly.Jul 23 19:03
MinceRThey mostly come at night. Mostly.Jul 23 19:05
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DaemonFC[m]That's how systemd is.Jul 23 19:08
DaemonFC[m]I need to reboot and see if this systemd update actually works.Jul 23 19:08
DaemonFC[m]Ubuntu switched from rsyslog to journald apparently.Jul 23 19:09
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure that something upstream changed so that you couldn't run rsyslog.Jul 23 19:09
psydroidI regularly end up with 1+ GB of journals and I just end up deleting all of those to reclaim the spaceJul 23 19:10
XRevan86DaemonFC[m]: rsyslog works just fineJul 23 19:11
DaemonFC[m]Well, this is nice. Out in the mound of trash, people have tossed out the free "meals on wheels" stuff they didn't like and some free organic cereal from whole foods and stuff.Jul 23 19:14
DaemonFC[m]I don't think they get how picky some people who go to the food bank are. If they don't like it, they'll toss it on the ground.Jul 23 19:14
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DaemonFC[m]The other day I saw like 50 free meals that meals on wheels brought out and they were still wrapped up and someone just tossed them all in the trash.Jul 23 19:15
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DaemonFC[m]It's pretty sick. That box of cereal by itself is probably five bucks at the whole foods.Jul 23 19:17
DaemonFC[m]Not what they wanted so they just toss it.Jul 23 19:17
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schestowitzhttp://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2020/07/breaking-eqe-to-be-held-online-next-year.htmlJul 23 20:06
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ipkitten.blogspot.com | BREAKING: EQE to be held online next year! - The IPKatJul 23 20:06
schestowitz"Jul 23 20:06
schestowitzas it is published on the EPO websiteJul 23 20:06
schestowitzEQE 2021 –Important information from the Supervisory BoardJul 23 20:07
schestowitzThe European qualifying examination (EQE) 2021 is planned tobe conducted online.Jul 23 20:07
schestowitzA working group composed of EPO and epi representatives has been set up to work out the arrangements fornext year's EQE. Their aim is to ensure that the examination can be conducted in an orderly manner in a safe environment and to guarantee fair conditions for all candidates. The Supervisory Board is in close contact with the working group and oversees all itstasks.Jul 23 20:07
schestowitzFurther details will be announced at a later date, including an optionfor candidates to test the system in good time before the examination.Jul 23 20:07
schestowitzThe EQE syllabus and the structure of the various examination papers will be as outlined in the REE and IPREEand in line with previous years' examination papers (Compendium).Jul 23 20:07
schestowitzFor the time being, individual questions on the online examination will not be responded to directly. However, they will be collected and used as a basis for FAQs to be published at a later stage.Jul 23 20:07
schestowitzwhich can be found underJul 23 20:07
schestowitzhttp://documents.epo.org/projects/babylon/eponot.nsf/0/a3fe9e76fa0f2964c12585ae004462ac/$FILE/Announcement%20Online%20EQE%202021.pdfJul 23 20:07
schestowitzbut also in German and French, since we still have three official languagesJul 23 20:07
schestowitzhttps://www.epo.org/learning/eqe_de.htmlJul 23 20:07
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.epo.org | EPO - Europäische EignungsprüfungJul 23 20:07
schestowitz"Jul 23 20:07
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schestowitznicely doneJul 23 20:17
schestowitztoday us will top 1000 deaths again Jul 23 20:17
schestowitzfor sure, based on how it looks so far, at this timeJul 23 20:17
schestowitzTX and CA not reporting the death toll yetJul 23 20:18
DaemonFC[m]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/coronavirus-stimulus-gop-unemployment-plan-would-have-70percent-wage-replacement.htmlJul 23 20:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Coronavirus stimulus: GOP unemployment plan would have 70% wage replacementJul 23 20:18
DaemonFC[m]30% are already too poor to buy a can of Coke and Trump is demanding to get rid of the extra unemployment stipend in his next Capital One bailout bill.Jul 23 20:19
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2020/07/20/hearing-loss-pandemic-lockdown/Jul 23 20:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-flossexperiences.wordpress.com | Hearing loss, pandemic, lockdown – Experiences in the communityJul 23 20:20
schestowitzscroll down to medical billJul 23 20:20
schestowitzand tell me how much a covid patient may pay in USJul 23 20:20
MinceRwhat happened to Lego's policy against weapons? :>Jul 23 20:22
DaemonFC[m]After insurance? In the hospital for 16 days....Labs....Pharmacy (where a single ibuprofen can be $100)..........Jul 23 20:23
DaemonFC[m]Probably $100,000-$150,000 depending on the hospital.Jul 23 20:24
DaemonFC[m]They'll either sue you or force you into "voluntary" bankruptcy.Jul 23 20:24
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Your creditors could force you into bankruptcy if they think you're hiding or squandering assets. It's rare.Jul 23 20:25
DaemonFC[m]Usually they wait until you do it and then file an AP motion if they think there's anything to take.Jul 23 20:25
DaemonFC[m]It's quite often where people who do possibly have anything spend it all down and then beat their creditors to court.Jul 23 20:26
DaemonFC[m]I paid our living expenses until there was nothing that wasn't exempt, filed bankruptcy.Jul 23 20:26
DaemonFC[m]Is that "squandering assets"? Your creditors might think so, but you're a very small nuisance to them even if you do owe them $100,000. They're "managing" about $14 trillion in consumer debt in the US, Roy.Jul 23 20:27
DaemonFC[m]You're not going to be the first to get roped into court.Jul 23 20:27
DaemonFC[m]Between mortgages, credit cards, student loans, and medical bills, it reached $14 trillion right before the shit hit the fan, and I was telling mom _and_ John that "something" would trigger this in 2020 over the past 2 years.Jul 23 20:28
DaemonFC[m]I got told I had no idea what I was talking about.Jul 23 20:29
MinceR:>Jul 23 20:29
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DaemonFC[m]I said, "Something is out there waiting to kick this over and it will be horrible.Jul 23 20:30
DaemonFC[m]It turned out to be a virus, but could have been anything. Doesn't take much to knock over $14 trillion in shoddy loans that people who hadn't had a raise in over a decade were struggling under.Jul 23 20:31
DaemonFC[m]Well, hopefully Scumbucket likes the surprise I left for him. I put all of his money in stocks that I knew would be in bankruptcy court this year. The Fed might be keeping things "stable" for another month or two, but really all Trump is trying to do is limp into the election looking like there's a plan, when the plan is win the election and then let it all fall down.Jul 23 20:33
DaemonFC[m]It's everywhere in the government. It's not just Immigration and "masked thugs with unmarked vans". He's had the Social Security Administration rig their computer so that nobody loses their Disability before the election either.Jul 23 20:35
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schestowitz[20:22] <MinceR> what happened to Lego's policy against weapons? :>Jul 23 20:51
schestowitzplastic policyJul 23 20:51
schestowitzit bends a bitJul 23 20:51
MinceR:>Jul 23 20:53
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schestowitzCA and TX starting to put together their numbersJul 23 20:57
schestowitzsoon it'll surpass 1,000 deadJul 23 20:57
schestowitzin a couple of hours I thinkJul 23 20:57
schestowitz13k new cases in South AfricaJul 23 20:58
schestowitzaka "playing ground" for Bill and MelindaJul 23 20:58
superkuhWhat are cases?Jul 23 21:00
schestowitzpeople tested positiveJul 23 21:01
schestowitzsurely some countries cannot test manyJul 23 21:01
schestowitzor test only there already hospitalised with harsh symptomsJul 23 21:01
schestowitzto ascertain cause of death, before cremationJul 23 21:01
DaemonFC[m]<schestowitz "aka "playing ground" for Bill an"> MALINDAJul 23 21:08
schestowitzyes, I knowJul 23 21:08
schestowitzI mentioned that typoJul 23 21:08
schestowitzappeared twice evenJul 23 21:08
DaemonFC[m]"I'm shocked, shocked, to find pedophiles working in our house!"Jul 23 21:08
schestowitzso SPD doesn't know how to spell her nameJul 23 21:08
schestowitzand the gates critics online, the more k00ky ones, call her mandlindaJul 23 21:08
DaemonFC[m]She probably doesn't know how to spell her own name.Jul 23 21:08
schestowitzmanlindaJul 23 21:08
DaemonFC[m]The first and last thing she managed at Microsoft was "Bob".Jul 23 21:09
schestowitzand maybe they even think she's male, like many think about Michelle ObamaJul 23 21:09
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: You've seen Microsoft Bob, right?Jul 23 21:09
schestowitzyesJul 23 21:09
schestowitznot firsthandJul 23 21:09
schestowitzI read about itJul 23 21:09
schestowitzBTW, re Mellinda...Jul 23 21:09
schestowitzdid you see the tweet she sent minutes after the arrest?Jul 23 21:10
DaemonFC[m]No.Jul 23 21:10
schestowitzAssuming Seattle area times:Jul 23 21:10
schestowitz" The above tweet of a beach was posted on the date of the arrest/search of their employee, who was at their residence at the time. This tweet was posted 2 hours and 40 minutes after the door was breached and incriminating evidence collected. "Jul 23 21:10
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/06/20/young-boys-and-the-express-stop-envelope/Jul 23 21:10
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill and Melinda Gates Employee Took Photos of Young Boys at the Beach | TechrightsJul 23 21:10
schestowitzyou can compare the date and timeJul 23 21:10
schestowitzthe police report has times in itJul 23 21:11
schestowitzso this was a short time after they tossed the pedo in the police van, with the door open, supposedly making him "free to leave"Jul 23 21:11
schestowitzwhat I want to add is,Jul 23 21:12
schestowitznotice this photoJul 23 21:12
schestowitzwho give a photographer the camera and says Jul 23 21:12
schestowitz"hey, go like 200 yards away"Jul 23 21:12
schestowitzdo a photo op of us walking... UNLESSJul 23 21:12
schestowitzthe photo was done/taken by the local press or somethingJul 23 21:13
DaemonFC[m]Might have been.Jul 23 21:13
schestowitzthough no copyright/attribution note thereJul 23 21:13
schestowitzalso, Melinda explained in this video what motivated their word in Africa: http://techrights.org/2020/06/25/philanthropic-racism/Jul 23 21:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | “Philanthropic Racism” (Clinical Trials/Experimentation on Live Subjects and Ethnic Cleaning as ‘Public Good’) | TechrightsJul 23 21:14
schestowitztd;d watch: she said it was about preventing those "dark people" (not her words) from infesting the planetJul 23 21:14
schestowitzshe put it more politelyJul 23 21:14
schestowitzbut this is eugenics mantraJul 23 21:14
schestowitzblack people badJul 23 21:14
schestowitzwhite people OKJul 23 21:14
schestowitzthey have 3 kidsJul 23 21:14
schestowitz2 female, one male iircJul 23 21:14
schestowitzbut for couples in africa to have that many...? hmmm... noJul 23 21:15
schestowitztoo poor, sorryJul 23 21:15
schestowitztake our pills and stuffJul 23 21:15
schestowitzkill yourselfJul 23 21:15
schestowitzremove your genesJul 23 21:15
DaemonFC[m]Microsoft did have the Avoid Ghetto feature on the GPS.Jul 23 21:15
DaemonFC[m]Which I still say is not a bad idea.Jul 23 21:15
schestowitzyou're not as good and rich as we are...Jul 23 21:15
DaemonFC[m]Bad optics maybe.Jul 23 21:15
MinceRmalinda   https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/malus#LatinJul 23 21:15
schestowitzand rich implies GOOD GENES... remember...Jul 23 21:15
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | malus - WiktionaryJul 23 21:15
schestowitzthat's how these people thinkJul 23 21:15
schestowitzas if they're genetically superiorJul 23 21:16
schestowitznot ruthless corrupt business peopleJul 23 21:16
schestowitzjust genetically superiorJul 23 21:16
schestowitzhence, they "deserve" that wealthJul 23 21:16
DaemonFC[m]Superior at tricking people out of something they don't know the value of, you have to admit.Jul 23 21:16
schestowitzor get better lawyerJul 23 21:17
schestowitz"like dad"Jul 23 21:17
schestowitz(bill's)Jul 23 21:17
DaemonFC[m]IBM could have just gone straight to Seattle Computer Products had they known about QDOS. I can't imagine that it would have escaped their attention.Jul 23 21:17
schestowitzhow to write contracts that silence your staffJul 23 21:17
schestowitzso you can defraud shareholders etc.Jul 23 21:17
schestowitzIBM gave MSFT the contract because of bill's momJul 23 21:17
DaemonFC[m]Then again, IBM is pretty stupid. Jul 23 21:17
schestowitzevidence of this is capures clearly in videoJul 23 21:17
schestowitz(video I only found a month or so ago in) http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/real-history-of-microsoft/Jul 23 21:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Real History of Microsoft and How It Became ‘Successful’ | TechrightsJul 23 21:18
DaemonFC[m]My guess is that DOS would have turned out a lot better had IBM just bought it and developed it in house.Jul 23 21:18
schestowitzWatch the part where the Board geezer speaks of Bill's momJul 23 21:18
schestowitzand how she secured her failing son the IBM contractJul 23 21:18
schestowitzthis is not something you can call hearsatJul 23 21:18
schestowitzhearsayJul 23 21:18
schestowitzIt's like 3 minutes in, IIRCJul 23 21:19
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Walmart is pushing those "Windows 10 in S Mode" laptops.Jul 23 21:19
schestowitzI ripped out Colbert's BS bits about vaccines and other less trustworthy hypothesesJul 23 21:19
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it can pushJul 23 21:19
schestowitzbut might not deliverJul 23 21:19
schestowitzit can kill the mom (Walmart)Jul 23 21:19
DaemonFC[m]I noticed how much cheaper they are. You can get them out of S Mode for free, but I'm guessing Microsoft doesn't think people will bother to figure out.Jul 23 21:19
schestowitzS stands for you know whatJul 23 21:20
schestowitzStupid, Shit...Jul 23 21:20
DaemonFC[m]That wasn't the original plan with S. It was a $100 fee to make them run desktop applications.Jul 23 21:20
schestowitzsooner or later people speakJul 23 21:20
DaemonFC[m]I thought it was because of the "Security backed by Microsoft". :PJul 23 21:20
schestowitzand then the mate of bother says, don't buy this windows stuffJul 23 21:21
schestowitz"it's useless"Jul 23 21:21
schestowitzit's not s sustainable planJul 23 21:21
schestowitzthey struggle against chromebooks right nowJul 23 21:21
schestowitz800 dead nowJul 23 21:21
schestowitzonly 9pm hereJul 23 21:21
DaemonFC[m]That's exactly where the S Mode idea came from, but it doesn't make Windows 10 lighter or faster.Jul 23 21:21
DaemonFC[m]All of Win32 is still there and running, and apps from the store can use it.Jul 23 21:21
schestowitzVista 10Jul 23 21:22
DaemonFC[m]It's just "restricted" to the user by default.Jul 23 21:22
schestowitzit wastes cpu cycles chewing its own fatsJul 23 21:22
schestowitzyes, like drmJul 23 21:22
schestowitzartificially limitingJul 23 21:22
schestowitzlowering its own potentialJul 23 21:22
schestowitzhenceJul 23 21:22
schestowitzget free softwareJul 23 21:22
schestowitzlibreJul 23 21:22
schestowitzmight not be $0Jul 23 21:22
schestowitzbut you SURE get more control and value out of itJul 23 21:22
DaemonFC[m]I say this debut at Best Buy with the plan to eventually charge to get it out of S Mode.Jul 23 21:22
schestowitzGIMP, not PaintJul 23 21:22
DaemonFC[m]I was like "You cannot be serious.".Jul 23 21:23
schestowitzit's for false aevertisingJul 23 21:23
schestowitzthey come to storeJul 23 21:23
schestowitzbased on low numbersJul 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]They'll sell some and people will be angry and feel like they've been had and then go warn all their friends.Jul 23 21:23
schestowitzand later find out the catchJul 23 21:23
schestowitzbroadband industry does the sameJul 23 21:23
schestowitzthey advertise misleading ratesJul 23 21:23
schestowitz(here also)Jul 23 21:23
schestowitzthen they add "line rental" and stuffJul 23 21:23
schestowitzso the cost more than doubles in realityJul 23 21:23
DaemonFC[m]In the store, it just looks like a regular old Windows demo.Jul 23 21:24
schestowitz805Jul 23 21:24
DaemonFC[m]You wouldn't know what it was from playing with the demo model.Jul 23 21:24
schestowitzwell, windows will alienate people that wayJul 23 21:24
schestowitzlive and learnJul 23 21:24
schestowitzget something not windows... next timeJul 23 21:24
DaemonFC[m]It's cheap in every sense of the word. Like, Microsoft pulling another fast one on people instead of a sustainable business plan.Jul 23 21:24
schestowitzcan't even change wallpaperJul 23 21:24
schestowitz"john, this crap doesn't do anything but run edge!"Jul 23 21:24
MinceRlolJul 23 21:25
schestowitz"take it back to the store:Jul 23 21:25
DaemonFC[m]Well, it depends on what Best Buy's return AI says.Jul 23 21:25
DaemonFC[m]It might decide you've taken too many things back to stores in general.Jul 23 21:25
schestowitzbblJul 23 21:25
DaemonFC[m]The manager has to do what the AI says!Jul 23 21:25
DaemonFC[m]There's a "store return credit score" that they have on people now.Jul 23 21:26
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/13/ab4c32575795d515.jpgJul 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]You eventually return "enough" things and the participating stores don't let you return anything else.Jul 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Best Buy is in it, and so is Meijer and Target.Jul 23 21:26
MinceRDaemonFC[m]: "controlled by a unique combination of software and organic systems"Jul 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Dunno who else.Jul 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Home Depot I think.Jul 23 21:26
MinceRoopsJul 23 21:26
MinceRs/controlled/commanded/Jul 23 21:26
DaemonFC[m]Trump is trying to gaslight us on the whole vaccine thing.Jul 23 21:27
DaemonFC[m]Even if you believe there will be one in January, and I don't, at the rate this is spreading....it won't matter anymore.Jul 23 21:28
DaemonFC[m]The CDC figures that we're diagnosing 1/10th of the actual cases, and if that is true, then if you're getting 70,000 confirmed cases per day on average, that means something closer to 700,000 people per day are getting the virus.Jul 23 21:29
DaemonFC[m]What we do know is that it's hitting some states much harder than others so figure if Florida is actually getting 100,000 cases per day, then in 100 days about half the state's population has had it. Jul 23 21:30
DaemonFC[m]So Trump is telling them to wait on a vaccine when in a bit over 100 days from now it's not going to matter much in Florida anymore because the damage is done.Jul 23 21:31
DaemonFC[m]He's telling them to wait 150 days or so for the vaccine to start going out.Jul 23 21:31
schestowitzmy grandpa's brother is thereJul 23 21:31
schestowitzhe must be like 95Jul 23 21:31
schestowitzFLJul 23 21:31
DaemonFC[m]Florida isn't counting deaths the way the CDC says to so it's actually much worse than it looks.Jul 23 21:33
DaemonFC[m]Under the "They didn't get the test, but what else could it be?" guidelines, it's not 173 in Florida today. It's closer to 250 or so probably. * however many days the Republicans feel like lying about it.Jul 23 21:34
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: It's pretty obvious that testing isn't doing much to contain this.Jul 23 21:42
DaemonFC[m]So Trump figures if you slash testing, at least it makes it look like he didn't fuck up as much, at least on paper.Jul 23 21:42
DaemonFC[m]With conservatives and old people acting like blinking idiots when they're the ones most at risk, this can go on and on.Jul 23 21:43
MinceRwell, it's kind of difficult to limit the spread of a plague when you have no idea who is infected and who isn'tJul 23 21:45
MinceRbut for regimes that couldn't care less about who gets permanently damaged or killed, but cares very much about (meaningless) numbers they can show off to their pals, not testing is the best strategyJul 23 21:45
MinceRwhich is why orbanistan doesn't testJul 23 21:45
MinceRjust one of the many reasons why giving one's sovereignty up to sociopaths is an atrocious ideaJul 23 21:46
kingoffrancetrump seems to have this "visions of enlightenment" that is technically "true" but most ppl figure that stuff out at 14 or somethingJul 23 21:50
kingoffrancei dunno, seems arrested dev. to meJul 23 21:50
kingoffranceor is it decay?Jul 23 21:51
kingoffranceit just strikes me as things a teen would sayJul 23 21:52
DaemonFC[m]His son isn't much smarter than he is. Jul 23 21:52
kingoffrancehes questioning reality, experimenting with consciousness....soon he will hit pubertyJul 23 21:52
DaemonFC[m]His younger one from the Third Lady has major autism and they keep him away from the media.Jul 23 21:52
DaemonFC[m]That's the presidential equivalent of The Who experimenting with funk on their last album. Jul 23 21:53
kingoffrance^^^ yupJul 23 21:53
DaemonFC[m]The reviewers widely panned all of "It's Hard" except for Eminence Front (which made it into the move Law Abiding Citizen when he asks the warden for his iPod).Jul 23 21:57
kingoffrancei guess to me its like quantity, quality, essence.   he has no depth.Jul 23 21:57
DaemonFC[m]That movie was sort of V for Vendetta without a satisfying ending though.Jul 23 21:57
DaemonFC[m]Instead of the city hall blowing up while the mayor was insisting that they were in control of everything, the prosecutor slips the guy his own bomb back.Jul 23 21:58
DaemonFC[m]It lets the bad guy win. The system was the bad guy. The audience is rooting for "Clyde Sheldon", not the city of Philadelphia. Jul 23 21:59
DaemonFC[m]These Democrat mayors are weak. Trump sends in a few federal thugs and they file a lawsuit?Jul 23 22:02
DaemonFC[m]They could tell the city police to go out there and arrest the federal ones. Jul 23 22:02
psydread> trump seems to have this "visions of enlightenment" that is technically "true" but most ppl figure that stuff out at 14 or somethingJul 23 22:07
psydread> i dunno, seems arrested dev. to meJul 23 22:07
psydread> or is it decay?Jul 23 22:07
psydreadit's called narcissistic personality disorderJul 23 22:07
kingoffrancei dont disagreeJul 23 22:08
kingoffranceexcept i would say beyond thatJul 23 22:08
kingoffranceme == countryJul 23 22:08
kingoffranceif you dont like me, you hate <country>Jul 23 22:08
kingoffrancemaybe thats advanced stage of npd :)Jul 23 22:08
kingoffrancehe does have depth :)Jul 23 22:08
MinceRit's exactly like when someone criticizes the gypsy king or one of his lackeys, he claims they "attacked hungary"Jul 23 22:09
kingoffranceand beyond that <me and my buddies> == countryJul 23 22:09
MinceRexcept the gypsy king considered himself to own the country even when he lost the electionsJul 23 22:09
kingoffrancetheres no team trump...except thats literally the nick for his election campaign ppl IIRCJul 23 22:09
MinceRthat's when he said "the homeland can't be in opposition"Jul 23 22:09
kingoffranceoh yeah they love thatJul 23 22:10
kingoffrancea house divided cannot standJul 23 22:10
kingoffrancetherefore <me and my buddies> == countryJul 23 22:10
MinceRbut hey, hungary is a shitholeJul 23 22:10
MinceRso he can keep itJul 23 22:10
kingoffranceyour in my house now grandma    -- happy gilmore, ben stillmore with giant mustache making them workJul 23 22:10
MinceRa bunch of stupid people decided they wanted to live oppressed in a colony of russia againJul 23 22:10
kingoffrances/stillmore/stiller/Jul 23 22:10
MinceRand they got itJul 23 22:10
MinceRand they apparently like itJul 23 22:10
kingoffranceis that 1st or 2nd coming?  suddenyl they dont want to quote bible stuff anymoreJul 23 22:12
MinceRlolJul 23 22:12
schestowitz900Jul 23 22:12
kingoffrancethey want to remain "neutral" "divided" when you push "depth"Jul 23 22:12
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: want to help me proofread re ms layoffs?Jul 23 22:13
schestowitzand fact-check while at it?Jul 23 22:13
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DaemonFC[m]SureJul 23 22:20
schestowitzhere:Jul 23 22:20
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/07/23/microsoft-defrauding-again/Jul 23 22:20
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft is Defrauding Its Shareholders While Laying Off About 5,000 Workers | TechrightsJul 23 22:20
schestowitzfast before people spot typosJul 23 22:20
DaemonFC[m]"before but"Jul 23 22:21
DaemonFC[m]missing commaJul 23 22:21
schestowitzcheers, fixedJul 23 22:21
MinceRhttps://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/13/2940467630a3a0b5.jpgJul 23 22:21
DaemonFC[m]"today said"Jul 23 22:22
DaemonFC[m]said todayJul 23 22:22
schestowitzquote from articleJul 23 22:22
DaemonFC[m]"it’s like than"Jul 23 22:23
DaemonFC[m]should be "it's less than"Jul 23 22:23
schestowitzright, well spottedJul 23 22:23
DaemonFC[m]Yes, on the effect of 960 vs 998 or something...Jul 23 22:23
DaemonFC[m]Walmart does that. They'll sell something for $4.43 instead of $3.99 and it lets them charge more while appearing reasonable.Jul 23 22:24
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DaemonFC[m]It's a lot less than $5, so people think it's a great deal.Jul 23 22:24
schestowitz9.99 dollarsJul 23 22:25
schestowitzhow many laid off?Jul 23 22:25
schestowitz900 something...Jul 23 22:25
DaemonFC[m]"In recent weeks Microsoft"Jul 23 22:25
DaemonFC[m]Feeling the need for another comma there.Jul 23 22:25
DaemonFC[m]More cowbell.Jul 23 22:26
DaemonFC[m]I usually place commas where I would stop to grab a breath for something that's coming.Jul 23 22:26
schestowitzI think a comma would be spurious thereJul 23 22:27
schestowitzunless that part is at the end of that same sentenceJul 23 22:28
schestowitzadd article to http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_Layoffs http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_-_FinancialsJul 23 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Layoffs - TechrightsJul 23 22:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft - Financials - TechrightsJul 23 22:28
schestowitzedited as you suggestedJul 23 22:28
schestowitzone day these will become as crucial as our gates pageJul 23 22:28
schestowitzmany people found out about abuse by gates foundation only earlier this yearJul 23 22:28
schestowitzso lots of catching up for them to doJul 23 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Looks okay for the most part.Jul 23 22:29
schestowitzcheersJul 23 22:29
DaemonFC[m]Health records in Azure is one of those "people have to be our customers even if they don't know about it, because they go to the doctor" things.Jul 23 22:29
DaemonFC[m]People don't know where their data gets stored, and I haven't seen anything to suggest that there won't be a massive breach of Azure again. Jul 23 22:30
schestowitzyes, military alsoJul 23 22:30
schestowitziirc, ibm still has a foothold on the aging nuclear stuffJul 23 22:30
schestowitzand 'modernisation'Jul 23 22:30
DaemonFC[m]Yes, it's a Series/1 computer.Jul 23 22:31
DaemonFC[m]They also run a lot of stuff on DOS.Jul 23 22:31
schestowitzhttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/07/22/scathing-obituary-texas-woman-blames-gop-carelessness-mothers-undeserving-covid-19Jul 23 22:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | In Scathing Obituary, Texas Woman Blames GOP 'Carelessness' for Mother's 'Undeserving' Covid-19 Death | Common Dreams NewsJul 23 22:31
schestowitzTX might reach 200 deaths todayJul 23 22:31
schestowitzthey use pre 5.25inch floppiesJul 23 22:31
schestowitzbut maybe they have changed that by nowJul 23 22:31
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The inventory control system for the ship's galley runs on DOS, and those are on modern ships.Jul 23 22:31
DaemonFC[m]There's really no reason to upgrade it because it works.Jul 23 22:31
schestowitzand is likely more secureJul 23 22:32
schestowitzno need for a network reallyJul 23 22:32
DaemonFC[m]No there isn't. Jul 23 22:32
schestowitztime passing = maturityJul 23 22:32
schestowitzcobol on many payroll systemsJul 23 22:32
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was asking someone I knew off of Grindr about that.Jul 23 22:32
schestowitzyou don't want to get payroll wrongJul 23 22:32
DaemonFC[m]He told me it boots up and it says FreeDOS on it.Jul 23 22:32
schestowitzhappened recently and people got fired over things they didn't doJul 23 22:32
schestowitzit was a software bug, took a while for the company to admit thisJul 23 22:33
DaemonFC[m]So they're swapping out MS-DOS and running it on CSMs on uEFI systems. New computers.Jul 23 22:33
DaemonFC[m]I'm sure the federal government can procure systems with "Legacy Boot" longer than the public can.Jul 23 22:33
schestowitzx https://hitconsultant.net/2020/07/17/microsoft-releases-public-preview-of-azure-iot-connector-for-fhir/Jul 23 22:33
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-hitconsultant.net | Microsoft Releases Public Preview of Azure IoT Connector for FHIRJul 23 22:33
schestowitzx https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/22/21334725/microsoft-q4-2020-earnings-azure-surface-xbox-gains-growth-profits-salesJul 23 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Microsoft just had a stellar three months thanks to Azure, Surface, and Xbox - The VergeJul 23 22:34
schestowitzx https://www.pcworld.com/article/3568208/xbox-gaming-windows-drive-microsofts-sales-as-the-world-works-from-home.htmlJul 23 22:34
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Xbox gaming, Windows drive Microsoft's sales as the world works from home | PCWorldJul 23 22:34
schestowitz=Jul 23 22:34
schestowitzomitted from article on purposeJul 23 22:34
DaemonFC[m]There was talk of FreeDOS with uEFI support, but they shot that down fast.Jul 23 22:34
DaemonFC[m]They said there has to be a BIOS for it to talk to because so many DOS apps would never run again without that.Jul 23 22:34
DaemonFC[m]So the next step might just be running it in a VM.Jul 23 22:34
schestowitz974Jul 23 22:35
schestowitzCA at 113Jul 23 22:35
schestowitza dozen states not reporting yet, but it'll end at around 1100Jul 23 22:36
schestowitzmore than 9/11 in 3 days aloneJul 23 22:36
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz All of the NT 3.5 and Xbox OS source code leaked out a few days ago.Jul 23 22:36
schestowitz1122, 12something, now 11somethingJul 23 22:36
schestowitzUK 55 todayJul 23 22:36
DaemonFC[m]The NT 3.5 code is enough I hear to actually build the entire system from source.Jul 23 22:36
schestowitzabout a quarter of US populationJul 23 22:37
DaemonFC[m]No telling where these leaks come from.Jul 23 22:38
DaemonFC[m]I think the FSF was trolling Microsoft a little when they said give them the source code for Windows 7 and they'd make sure it was maintained. Jul 23 22:40
DaemonFC[m]Not effective though. The FSF "marketing" is pretty bad.Jul 23 22:40
DaemonFC[m]https://www.fsf.org/news/free-software-foundation-targets-microsofts-smart-assistant-in-new-campaignJul 23 22:43
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Free Software Foundation targets Microsoft's smart assistant in new campaign — Free Software Foundation — working together for free softwareJul 23 22:43
DaemonFC[m]https://siliconangle.com/2020/07/21/microsofts-linkedin-lay-off-6-workforce/Jul 23 22:45
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft’s LinkedIn to lay off 6% of its global workforce - SiliconANGLEJul 23 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Does that mean we'll get 6% less "So and so is waiting for you to join LinkedIn" in our email?Jul 23 22:45
DaemonFC[m]Austin is on LinkedIn.Jul 23 22:46
MinceRwe might get more, actuallyJul 23 22:46
MinceRsince they'll target their spam lessJul 23 22:46
DaemonFC[m]He's a Delivery Specialist at.....Dominos Pizza right now, according to that.Jul 23 22:47
DaemonFC[m]Maybe he can add "Fugitive from the Village of Fox Lake Police Department. 2019-present".Jul 23 22:47
DaemonFC[m]They let him go and then got an arrest warrant.Jul 23 22:49
DaemonFC[m]That's the government for you.Jul 23 22:49
DaemonFC[m]15 days until my probation ends and I'm as free as anyone else in this prison.Jul 23 22:51
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Prison is more of a state of being than a building.Jul 23 22:51
DaemonFC[m]People don't really seem to appreciate that you don't have to be in prison to be in prison.Jul 23 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Just because they let you out of a building called prison doesn't mean you're free.Jul 23 22:52
DaemonFC[m]Works makes you free!Jul 23 22:52
DaemonFC[m];)Jul 23 22:52
DaemonFC[m]*WorkJul 23 22:53
DaemonFC[m]You have to work to buy shit you don't need. Along the way, the government taxes the work you perform to buy the shit you don't need, so you have to work more to pay the taxes, and then pay taxes on that work.Jul 23 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Then when you buy stuff, you pay taxes on the stuff you buy and have to work to pay more taxes.Jul 23 22:54
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: A few smart people said, "Uhm, well, if I just stop buying so many things I don't need, I won't have to do as much work and my taxes will go down!".Jul 23 22:54
DaemonFC[m]We call them "takers".Jul 23 22:55
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: Mandy doesn't get how things work here. He complained that they cut his hours one week and I said, "Eh, less we owe the government next year.".Jul 23 22:56
DaemonFC[m]He goes "Ohhhh, Mini Cooper. Cute. I'm going to buy one when I make more money!". I said, "Spoken like a true poor person.".Jul 23 22:56
DaemonFC[m]MinceR: When you get used to the contradictions, it's not so bad anymore. Mostly. Jul 23 22:57
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: I have another oneJul 23 22:58
schestowitzabout us dentJul 23 22:58
schestowitzwanna read first?Jul 23 22:58
DaemonFC[m]People who don't buy things are unimportant. You wouldn't want to be.....unimportant, would you? Here's a credit card.Jul 23 22:58
DaemonFC[m]Sure.Jul 23 22:58
schestowitz[22:40] <DaemonFC[m]> Not effective though. The FSF "marketing" is pretty bad.Jul 23 22:58
schestowitzyes, that was awfulJul 23 22:59
schestowitzhttp://techrights.org/2020/07/23/global-power-transition/Jul 23 22:59
MinceRpower makes you freeJul 23 22:59
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Power Shift or Power Transition | TechrightsJul 23 22:59
schestowitzexpect typos, DaemonFC[m]Jul 23 22:59
schestowitzI am also trying to find them nowJul 23 22:59
MinceRlol @ mini cooperJul 23 22:59
MinceRwhich one was it, the one that had a purpose or the one that was designed by BMW?Jul 23 22:59
DaemonFC[m]The BMW one where the car wash takes your bumper off and my impala runs over it and then you get out of your car and go Karen the manager.Jul 23 23:01
DaemonFC[m]:)Jul 23 23:01
MinceRlolJul 23 23:01
DaemonFC[m]"China has a lot of work sent to it not just"Jul 23 23:04
DaemonFC[m]Leading into a new idea.Jul 23 23:04
schestowitzI found no typosJul 23 23:05
schestowitzjust minor amendmentJul 23 23:05
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: seen any?Jul 23 23:05
schestowitz(1,017 deaths now, 3 more hours to go)Jul 23 23:05
DaemonFC[m]No, just getting into the second half now.Jul 23 23:06
schestowitzcheers!Jul 23 23:06
schestowitzI integrated some things you had said into itJul 23 23:06
DaemonFC[m]"Our Daily Links are full or articles about that."Jul 23 23:07
DaemonFC[m]Should be "full of"Jul 23 23:07
schestowitzcheers, fixed nowJul 23 23:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Mandy blindly handed me a paper to write about something when he was in "school" last year (indentured servitude to his sister from her pov).Jul 23 23:09
schestowitzthe debt curve would have looked better if us did not spent 1.1 trillon bucks a year on militaryJul 23 23:09
DaemonFC[m]I did well even though I directly quoted Richard Stallman in part of it.Jul 23 23:09
DaemonFC[m]The professor circled it and said that it amused him. Jul 23 23:09
schestowitz:-)Jul 23 23:09
schestowitzmaybe I'll do a meme nowJul 23 23:09
schestowitzthen get back to reading newsJul 23 23:10
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The military spending is very high. We have to sail big expensive ships through the South China Sea so that Trump can fold like a cheap card table when they overrun Hong Kong and the Philippines. Jul 23 23:11
DaemonFC[m]Nothing bad ever came from appeasement. Just ask the British and Russians.Jul 23 23:14
DaemonFC[m]I can understand the US being more reluctant to admit that Nazi Germany was what it was. The luxury of not being over the channel or across a border from Hitler probably helped a lot.Jul 23 23:15
DaemonFC[m]"But he invaded Poland!" Yeah, but you know......it was Poland. Jul 23 23:15
DaemonFC[m]If this was 1940 Germany, my mom would be one of those people up there singing the praises of Hitler and all the wonderful things he did except for those damned Jews, who are rapists and criminals you know.Jul 23 23:18
DaemonFC[m]Because, that's pretty much what's going on here. I'm not even sure we have an election coming up, and if Trump wins this one, it may be the last one for sure.Jul 23 23:19
DaemonFC[m]The Washington Post has observed that Trump is quickly shoving and burrowing as many saboteurs into the government as possible.Jul 23 23:20
schestowitzMadame Harmone isn't too shaepJul 23 23:20
schestowitz*sharpJul 23 23:20
DaemonFC[m]The way I'm looking at this, it's likely that if he loses, he'll leave. Jul 23 23:20
DaemonFC[m]But he's going to do as much damage as he can.Jul 23 23:20
schestowitzhe did in scotusJul 23 23:20
DaemonFC[m]This goes way beyond Clinton staff stealing the Ws from their keyboards.Jul 23 23:20
schestowitzand many district courtsJul 23 23:20
schestowitz1047 deadJul 23 23:21
schestowitzit might be 1200+ after allJul 23 23:21
schestowitzwow, almost 10k died in MassachusettsJul 23 23:21
schestowitzI didn't know they had it THAT badJul 23 23:21
kingoffrance"People who don't buy things are unimportant. You wouldn't want to be.....unimportant, would you? Here's a credit card"  thats too close to realityJul 23 23:22
kingoffranceget out of my headJul 23 23:22
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: http://techrights.org/2020/07/23/china-blame-passing/Jul 23 23:22
schestowitzjust nowJul 23 23:22
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | [Meme] We’ll Be Seeing Lots of China Blame-Passing in Years to Come | TechrightsJul 23 23:22
schestowitzkingoffrance: they keep spamming me with card offersJul 23 23:23
schestowitz"Credit"Jul 23 23:23
schestowitzas in debtJul 23 23:23
kingoffrance^^^Jul 23 23:23
schestowitzbuying beyond one's meansJul 23 23:23
kingoffranceyes, all depends which side of the equation you are onJul 23 23:23
schestowitzas if the salary you receive today is assured to last and grow for 30 yearsJul 23 23:23
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I was talking to Mandy last night.Jul 23 23:23
schestowitzmassive ponzi schemeJul 23 23:23
schestowitzthey'll take it allllll backJul 23 23:23
MinceRGynaJul 23 23:24
kingoffranceyep, the same time they are pushing this they are pushing everyone needs to be more flexible/dynamicJul 23 23:24
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Your sister and Mark are in deep trouble. You don't open up credit cards in your husband's name because you're doing okay.".Jul 23 23:24
schestowitzinc. the homes of people who took mortgagesJul 23 23:24
schestowitzor turn the tenants in those homes into wage slavesJul 23 23:24
kingoffranceit might work if it was 1950 and you could work for one corp. foreverJul 23 23:24
DaemonFC[m]He says "She's just cycling their money through them for rewards.". I said, "I know. They got rewarded with two lawsuits and a foreclosure motion in the same year in 2014.".Jul 23 23:24
schestowitzyupJul 23 23:24
schestowitzsomeone told me this 20 years agoJul 23 23:24
schestowitzpeople used to sttay in the same company for whole careersJul 23 23:25
schestowitzlike 30 years in IBMJul 23 23:25
schestowitzthis is becoming a non-corporate thing to doJul 23 23:25
schestowitzas the salary increases make you expensiveJul 23 23:25
schestowitz[20:29] [Notice] -viera to #techrights- Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: More Jobs Move to India, Cockpit 224 is Out, Using Red Hat Satellite with the LVFS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140215 [https://pleroma.site/objects/22f86a2b-69e9-489c-bdac-a20eb3038e34]Jul 23 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | IBM/Red Hat/Fedora: More Jobs Move to India, Cockpit 224 is Out, Using Red Hat Satellite with the LVFS | Tux MachinesJul 23 23:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pleroma.site | PleromaJul 23 23:25
kingoffrancewell i dunno if it was ever true but the image was i guessJul 23 23:25
schestowitzthey then ship your job awayJul 23 23:25
kingoffrance^^^Jul 23 23:25
schestowitzoff it sails, buddyJul 23 23:25
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: I might get on PACER.Jul 23 23:25
kingoffrancethats the be flexible/dynamic true meaningJul 23 23:25
DaemonFC[m]See if the in laws got rid of those with a Chapter 13 bankruptcy.Jul 23 23:26
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: it's not freeJul 23 23:26
DaemonFC[m]Where do you find the money to deal with all of that when you are being sued by three banks at once?Jul 23 23:26
schestowitzshe sounds crazy, based on what you told meJul 23 23:26
kingoffranceibm beaverton leased their buildingJul 23 23:26
kingoffrancei thought that was nutsJul 23 23:26
schestowitzlike that lady outside the underground bunker in 10 Clover LaneJul 23 23:26
kingoffrancebut somehow they figure it "saves"Jul 23 23:26
kingoffranceelse they wouldnt do itJul 23 23:26
schestowitzbanging her head at things like a zombieJul 23 23:26
schestowitzkeep the door shutJul 23 23:26
DaemonFC[m]10 Cloverfield Lane.Jul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]Yep.Jul 23 23:27
schestowitzyeahJul 23 23:27
schestowitzI knew I got the title wrongJul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]Oh, did I tell you?Jul 23 23:27
kingoffrancei just thought $billion org ...renting?Jul 23 23:27
schestowitzthat movie was irritatingJul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]Maricel's friend asked Mandy to come clean the house for her and that she "wouldn't tell your sister".Jul 23 23:27
schestowitzI regret going to it. It's weird and upsetting for several reasonsJul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]I said, "That's a trap.".Jul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]I had him block her.Jul 23 23:27
DaemonFC[m]This was yesterday,Jul 23 23:27
schestowitztypicalJul 23 23:28
DaemonFC[m]Can't find him so have her friend lure him into a trap.Jul 23 23:29
DaemonFC[m]Mom thinks that the government got back to her and won't let her drop the support affidavit, so she's going to try to kidnap Mandy.Jul 23 23:29
DaemonFC[m]I said, "It's certainly possible.".Jul 23 23:29
DaemonFC[m]This is interesting.Jul 23 23:31
DaemonFC[m]They haven't filed bankruptcy, but Mark's parents did in 2013.Jul 23 23:31
DaemonFC[m]Chapter 7 no asset.Jul 23 23:31
schestowitzhow old are they?Jul 23 23:34
schestowitzand he?Jul 23 23:34
schestowitzwell, no inheritance then for  ambicio sa'ng baki mula sa Tondo to mooch thenJul 23 23:35
kingoffrancei should add with all their "savings" on renting a building, that meant close down cafeteria, employees would sneak into nikeJul 23 23:36
schestowitzhouseowners will become tenantsJul 23 23:37
schestowitzand tenants will be at someone's mercyJul 23 23:37
schestowitzmaybe public housing (slums)Jul 23 23:37
kingoffrancethat "savings" went somewhere, but not to employeesJul 23 23:37
schestowitz"In an effort to protect his privacy, Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg paid more than $30 million for four houses surrounding his Palo Alto ..."Jul 23 23:38
schestowitzhttps://money.com/mark-zuckerberg-houses/Jul 23 23:38
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Mark Zuckerberg Bought Four Houses Just to Tear Them Down | MoneyJul 23 23:38
MinceRah, so there is somebody whose privacy does matterJul 23 23:38
MinceRinterestingJul 23 23:38
DaemonFC[m]They live in a mobile home in Park City.Jul 23 23:39
*DaemonFC[m] posted a file: 41742141-0--2981.pdf (1925KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gIKwDKFvDEMtCZjcrqKDertR >Jul 23 23:39
DaemonFC[m]According to this, they had no cash and negative bank account balances at their credit union, which is the one Mark and Maricel use.Jul 23 23:40
kingoffrancelol park city utah is a thing tooJul 23 23:40
kingoffranceski town, sundance, touristeyJul 23 23:40
schestowitzso they cannot save their sonJul 23 23:40
kingoffranceused to be mining i thinkJul 23 23:40
schestowitzand his ambicio sa'ng baki Jul 23 23:40
kingoffranceoregon they have a couple little 2x2 feet or so "parks" just to be wirdJul 23 23:41
kingoffrancethey have park city enclavesJul 23 23:41
DaemonFC[m]Wow, they owed more credit card debt than I did.Jul 23 23:41
kingoffranceislandsJul 23 23:41
MinceR"tech titan", my assJul 23 23:43
MinceR(cat) https://full.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/12/8d5376db89e1eb1b.jpgJul 23 23:44
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMD Ryzen 4000-powered KDE Slimbook Linux laptop is ready to run http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140156#comment-25914 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3f9992a4-6df7-416c-9b1e-c580e72cff0e]Jul 23 23:47
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: today’s howtos http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/140219 [https://pleroma.site/objects/bef354a6-be5a-4c5b-9013-6fee18b84d91]Jul 23 23:51
schestowitztech titanicJul 23 23:53
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: maybe she's come round full circle/circus and live in a shack in the USJul 23 23:55
schestowitzand regret buying all those gaddamn worthless shoesJul 23 23:55
schestowitz*godJul 23 23:55
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: and those $35 breakfastsJul 23 23:58
schestowitzthe "Reasonable Priced" BRsJul 23 23:58
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: This is starting to make sense now.Jul 23 23:59

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