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| DarwinElf | was there a conspiracy to remove Richard M Stallman (RMS) and Linus Torvalds from Free/Libre/Opensource Software (FLOSS?) | Sep 23 01:12 |
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| insmodppa | DarwinElf: My guess is as good as yours although we can safely say the outrage and lynching in both were caused by "cancel culture" elements who form the Social Justice crowd on (corporate) social media and (corporate) mainstream media. Cui bono? | Sep 23 01:37 |
| DarwinElf | i think it could be a dystopian conspiracy. I'm not going to argue it is, because I wouldn't really have proof | Sep 23 01:39 |
| insmodppa | One thing that strikes me as remarkably baffling is that a few days prior to the Minsky accusation, the Gates-Epstein-MIT revelation was promising to be a huge blow for the Microsoft founder and yet the corporate media has been focusing all their attacks on these two relatively unknown "MIT scientists". | Sep 23 01:42 |
| DarwinElf | yes... and apparently the student or professional who wrote the original article works on making killer robots | Sep 23 01:42 |
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| schestowitz | [01:42] <insmodppa> One thing that strikes me as remarkably baffling is that a few days prior to the Minsky accusation, the Gates-Epstein-MIT revelation was promising to be a huge blow for the Microsoft founder and yet the corporate media has been focusing all their attacks on these two relatively unknown "MIT scientists". | Sep 23 03:31 |
| schestowitz | yes | Sep 23 03:31 |
| schestowitz | [01:42] <DarwinElf> yes... and apparently the student or professional who wrote the original article works on making killer robots | Sep 23 03:34 |
| schestowitz | link? | Sep 23 03:34 |
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| schestowitz | That might explain hostility towards software ethics | Sep 23 03:34 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Building A Linux HTPC / Storage Server With The SilverStone CS381 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128408 [https://pleroma.site/objects/a5903651-f258-43f5-af92-d9599dab49e9] | Sep 23 03:37 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128409 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c65dd012-8444-4443-9296-552fe9abbfd3] | Sep 23 03:38 | |
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| DarwinElf | https://news.slashdot.org/story/19/09/21/0253227/gnus-former-kernel-maintainer-shares-a-reflection-on-the-departure-of-richard-stallman | Sep 23 03:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.slashdot.org | GNU's Former Kernel Maintainer Shares 'A Reflection on the Departure of Richard Stallman' - Slashdot | Sep 23 03:46 | |
| DarwinElf | a comment (now gone?) was '... Selam... works for a defense contractor building killer robots' | Sep 23 03:46 |
| DarwinElf | Selam G | Sep 23 03:47 |
| DarwinElf | unless I just didn't reopen all the comments, there are maybe 100+ | Sep 23 03:47 |
| schestowitz | seems more likely than it being deleted | Sep 23 03:48 |
| schestowitz | This is old: https://medium.com/@thomas.bushnell/a-reflection-on-the-departure-of-rms-18e6a835fd84 | Sep 23 03:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-A reflection on the departure of RMS - Thomas Bushnell, BSG - Medium | Sep 23 03:49 | |
| schestowitz | ./ is behind | Sep 23 03:49 |
| insmodppa | The overall quality of Slashdot suffered after they were bought over. Now it just seems to parrot MSM talking points (both the editorial and the commenters). | Sep 23 03:51 |
| schestowitz | yes, I know | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | the buyer once came here to IRC | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | trying to edit away our criticism of /. | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Lately TM has required maintenance to avert catastrophe. Watch / disk space: | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | [root@tuxmachines ~]# df | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | /dev/md0 4904384 4298780 349812 93% / | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | tmpfs 8166728 0 8166728 0% /dev/shm | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | /dev/md1 991448 132620 807632 15% /boot | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-home | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | 1999184 1518680 377288 81% /home | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-usr | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | 5932616 1391084 4233516 25% /usr | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-var | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | 16452520 11284880 4340092 73% /var | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | [root@tuxmachines ~]# cd /tmp/ | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | [root@tuxmachines tmp]# rm -f * | Sep 23 04:03 |
| schestowitz | df | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | [root@tuxmachines tmp]# df | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | /dev/md0 4904384 3188148 1460444 69% / | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | tmpfs 8166728 0 8166728 0% /dev/shm | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | /dev/md1 991448 132620 807632 15% /boot | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-home | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | 1999184 1518680 377288 81% /home | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-usr | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | 5932616 1391084 4233516 25% /usr | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | /dev/mapper/sysvg-var | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | 16452520 11287108 4337864 73% /var | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | //tmp fills up because of pdf files. IIRC. | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | We might want to set up a cron job to periodically delete those. | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | oh, wrong paste, but nothing sensitive here | Sep 23 04:04 |
| schestowitz | The correct paste: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Slashdot | Sep 23 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Slashdot - Techrights | Sep 23 04:04 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php?title=Slashdot&action=history | Sep 23 04:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Revision history of "Slashdot" - Techrights | Sep 23 04:04 | |
| insmodppa | The connection to Selam working as a defence contractor comes from her LinkedIn profile which reads: "Selam Gano. R&D Engineer at Triton Systems, Inc. Greater Boston Area. Logistics and Supply Chain. Triton Systems, Inc. XYZ Robotics Inc. Massachusetts" | Sep 23 04:07 |
| insmodppa | That's an excerpt from search engine results as I'm unable to access the page: www.linkedin.com/in/selam-gano-089895ba | Sep 23 04:10 |
| schestowitz | what do we know about 1) the company and 2) her role in it/which project? | Sep 23 04:12 |
| schestowitz | I never heard of her before, but she "liked" some of my tweets | Sep 23 04:12 |
| schestowitz | esp. those that link to negative articles | Sep 23 04:12 |
| schestowitz | also, she said (later) she got 100k hits on her post, after she had leaked the messages to Murdoch-owned media (Rupe is a personal mate of Gates, maybe closer than Epstein is) | Sep 23 04:13 |
| insmodppa | You're not the only one critical of her that she has "liked". It seems that she's enjoying the attention. | Sep 23 04:13 |
| schestowitz | https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#18_September_2019_(Online_trolls) | Sep 23 04:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.stallman.org | 2019: July - October Political Notes - Richard Stallman | Sep 23 04:14 | |
| schestowitz | Stop Engaging with Online Trolls altogether, Public Figures Say. | Sep 23 04:14 |
| schestowitz | As my experience shows, sometimes a troll storm does not depend on publicity from the victim. | Sep 23 04:14 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:14 |
| schestowitz | insmodppa: that was my point | Sep 23 04:14 |
| schestowitz | she wrote a later post about it and that brought up some concerns (to me) | Sep 23 04:15 |
| schestowitz | also, she's a 'nobody' in Twitter, almost no followers | Sep 23 04:15 |
| schestowitz | she seems to have changed her name in the blog | Sep 23 04:15 |
| schestowitz | maybe to limit exposure to who she is, where she works, etc. | Sep 23 04:15 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, it used to have her full name. Days later... not anymore | Sep 23 04:16 |
| schestowitz | please investigate this | Sep 23 04:16 |
| schestowitz | I put the timeline here: http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Sep 23 04:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 23 04:16 | |
| schestowitz | It's never too later to get the 'anatomy' of media lynch mobs | Sep 23 04:16 |
| schestowitz | "In the email thread, leaked by MIT alum Salam Jie Gano to VICE on Friday, Stallman argued that the late Marvin Minsky – an AI pioneer who died in 2016 and is accused of assaulting one of Epstein’s victims, Virginia Giuffre, - had not actually assaulted anyone." | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122#comment-21628 | Sep 23 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 23 04:17 | |
| schestowitz | "An angry MIT alumni who was forwarded the email then "started emailing reporters -- local and national, news sites, newspapers, radio stations" -- and then not receiving quick enough responses, published it herself in a Medium essay titled "Remove Richard Stallman. And everyone else horrible in tech." And then leaked the whole thread to Vice.' | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | The Vice article takes one specific quote out of context and removes key | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | words from it to change the meaning into a clickbait headline and story. | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | The article explains that Stallman insists that Epstein's victims were | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | "entirely willing" to be trafficked, which is a blatant misquote. | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | What Stallman actually wrote in the e-mail thread [1] is that, because | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | Virginia Giuffre was coerced by Epstein, Epstein would have surely | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | forced her to conceal the coercion from people like Marvin Minsky. | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | Therefore she would have presented herself to Minsky as "entirely | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | willing" and Minsky would not have needed to force himself onto her. | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122#comment-21677 | Sep 23 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 23 04:17 | |
| schestowitz | "His resignation stems from comments made last week, as outlined in Vice and elsewhere." | Sep 23 04:17 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122#comment-21683 | Sep 23 04:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stallman Under Fire for Views on Epstein | Tux Machines | Sep 23 04:17 | |
| schestowitz | "Vice reports Stallman made his comments on an MIT mailing list on which he objected to a protest being planned for next week over MIT's ties to the convicted sex offender long after his conviction." | Sep 23 04:18 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/128122 | Sep 23 04:18 |
| schestowitz | The first few reports that 'broke' the news cite Vic | Sep 23 04:18 |
| schestowitz | Vice | Sep 23 04:18 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_Media | Sep 23 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Vice Media - Wikipedia | Sep 23 04:19 | |
| schestowitz | " In mid-August 2013, Rupert Murdoch's 21st Century Fox invested US$70 million in Vice Media" | Sep 23 04:19 |
| schestowitz | https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/17/rupert-murdoch-vice-magazine-stake | Sep 23 04:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theguardian.com | Rupert Murdoch firm dips into hipsters' bible with $70m stake in Vice | Media | The Guardian | Sep 23 04:19 | |
| DarwinElf | :O | Sep 23 04:19 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/257196280781099008?lang=en | Sep 23 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rupertmurdoch: Who's heard of VICE media? Wild, interesting effort to interest millenials who don't read or watch established media. Global success. | Sep 23 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | Success in taking down RMS by lying | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/154681642424872960 | Sep 23 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rupertmurdoch: Think! Three richest Americans are three greatest philanthropists - Bloomberg, Gates and Buffett? | Sep 23 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/397096631461351424 | Sep 23 04:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rupertmurdoch: Tech driving world change ever faster. Bill Gates, with his wonderful philanthropy argues otherwise, but using new tech in all great works. | Sep 23 04:20 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz |  | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Rupert Murdoch | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | @rupertmurdoch | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | · | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Nov 3, 2013 | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | Tech driving world change ever faster. Bill Gates, with his wonderful philanthropy argues otherwise, but using new tech in all great works. | Sep 23 04:20 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:21 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/635059606851579904 | Sep 23 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rupertmurdoch: Gates Foundation doing much good, as did Microsoft for many years with breakthrough software. | Sep 23 04:21 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/635058354872786945 | Sep 23 04:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@rupertmurdoch: Fabulous achievers, aka Bill Gates, etc, look to be remembered for philanthropy, not enormous contributions to world through innovations. | Sep 23 04:21 | |
| schestowitz | they're mates | Sep 23 04:21 |
| schestowitz | I'd write more about it if I had time | Sep 23 04:21 |
| schestowitz | I need to finish two parts more of openwashing report and has family staying over until Tuesday, so... | Sep 23 04:22 |
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| insmodppa | It's going to fill volumes of books. Epstein was linked to Murdoch, Gates, Bezos, Clintons, MbS, Prince Andrew... the list goes on. | Sep 23 04:24 |
| insmodppa | It's like that George Carlin quote: "It's a big club, and you ain't in it." | Sep 23 04:25 |
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| schestowitz | club with a plane | Sep 23 04:30 |
| schestowitz | I got Assange addicted to that skit of Carlin | Sep 23 04:31 |
| insmodppa | What happened to Assange? He seems to have dropped off the radar after they brutally dragged him off. | Sep 23 04:32 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | for obvious reasons he's forgotten now | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | RMS might be the same soon | Sep 23 04:34 |
| *schestowitz reads comments in https://joindiaspora.com/posts/16052558#623f84d0bfb60137bff9002590d8e506 | Sep 23 04:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #FSF used to be #RMS Now it's just RMless, or rm | less. Harmless to corporations. rm -rf /home/fsf/ #selfharm #freesw #gnu | Sep 23 04:34 | |
| schestowitz | RMS has not yet posted an article about his MSFT visir | Sep 23 04:34 |
| schestowitz | he told me twice it would be posted shortly | Sep 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | meanwhile, some people want RMS back on the FSF Board | Sep 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | hours ago someone said he wanted me too in it (but it's in Boston) | Sep 23 04:35 |
| schestowitz | (imagine having to fly there, get your fingers scanned at the border just to join a FREE software foundation's board) | Sep 23 04:36 |
| insmodppa | Fingerprinting is the least of your worries. | Sep 23 04:39 |
| schestowitz | they already have mine | Sep 23 04:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: They already have mine too. | Sep 23 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Two arrests. | Sep 23 04:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When I was being arrested this year, it pulled up an arrest from 2008. | Sep 23 04:47 |
| schestowitz | "Alexandre Oliva, Vice President" | Sep 23 04:47 |
| schestowitz | https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board | Sep 23 04:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Staff and Board — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Sep 23 04:47 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: all visitors to the US since 2001 | Sep 23 04:47 |
| schestowitz | "https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board" | Sep 23 04:48 |
| schestowitz | Argh.... | Sep 23 04:48 |
| schestowitz | "Bradley M. Kuhn, president of the Software Freedom Conservancy" | Sep 23 04:48 |
| schestowitz | He's the one behind the letter to kick out RMS | Sep 23 04:48 |
| schestowitz | oddly enough they don't have a separate page for their Board | Sep 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | I want to know who's in it | Sep 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | some people want me to pursue a seat | Sep 23 04:49 |
| schestowitz | "Bradley M. Kuhn, president of the Software Freedom Conservancy" | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | That's real danger right there | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | he might be in the Board | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | It does not say who's in the Board | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | "Meet the staff and board of directors of the Free Software Foundation." | Sep 23 04:50 |
| DarwinElf | 'freedom' but they advocate Debian, which has systemd | Sep 23 04:50 |
| DarwinElf | (SFC) | Sep 23 04:50 |
| schestowitz | there's worse things than that | Sep 23 04:51 |
| schestowitz | Zemlin advocates Apple :-) | Sep 23 04:51 |
| DarwinElf | :( | Sep 23 04:51 |
| schestowitz | also: http://techrights.org/2019/07/31/jim-zemlin-open-source-loves-microsoft/ | Sep 23 04:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm still on Fedora. | Sep 23 04:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jim Zemlin: Open Source Loves Microsoft | Techrights | Sep 23 04:51 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I upgraded to 31 beta. | Sep 23 04:51 |
| schestowitz | https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/42888848 | Sep 23 04:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Resolving timed out after 10521 milliseconds ( status 0 @ https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/42888848 ) | Sep 23 04:54 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | Name and address of principal officer: | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | RICHARD STALLMAN | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | 51 FRANKLIN STREET SUITE 500 | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | BOSTON,MA02110 | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 04:54 |
| DarwinElf | Linus Torvalds and Richard M Stallman (RMS) both made the mistake of trusting democracy. Linus should've never replaced meritocracy with the contributor covenant, and RMS should've never ceded control to a board of directors | Sep 23 04:54 |
| schestowitz | the Board is not the problem | Sep 23 04:55 |
| DarwinElf | or maybe he really did resign of his own free will, I don't know. It's just suspicious | Sep 23 04:55 |
| schestowitz | it's who got into it | Sep 23 04:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Matthew Garrett | Sep 23 04:55 |
| schestowitz | FSF was under a lot of pressire, as was RMS | Sep 23 04:55 |
| insmodppa | Oh look, it's Zemlin, the MacOS laptop guy. | Sep 23 04:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Is he still on it? | Sep 23 04:55 |
| schestowitz | From GNOME, SFC and others... | Sep 23 04:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I use GNOME too. | Sep 23 04:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | KDE has been falling apart for years. | Sep 23 04:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a big mess and GNOME is okay. | Sep 23 04:56 |
| schestowitz | "JOHN HSIEH" gets 100k a year for 45 hours | Sep 23 04:56 |
| schestowitz | iirc, he's deputy something | Sep 23 04:56 |
| schestowitz | $658,988 in "membership dues" | Sep 23 04:57 |
| schestowitz | later came Pineapple Fund | Sep 23 04:57 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, RMS netted some financial awards too (personal I assume) | Sep 23 04:58 |
| schestowitz | 'Linux' Foundation has a budget about 100 times higher https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/460503801/201823199349304962/IRS990 | Sep 23 04:58 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-projects.propublica.org | Nonprofit Explorer - THE LINUX FOUNDATION - Form 990 - ProPublica | Sep 23 04:58 | |
| insmodppa | Would be safe to prefix it with 'corporate' everytime it's mentioned: The Corporate Linux Foundation | Sep 23 05:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, but it's long | Sep 23 05:18 |
| DarwinElf | i hope they made Linus a millionaire or it should be shut down | Sep 23 05:19 |
| schestowitz | I call it "Zemlin PAC", which is a more informative (IMHO) label as it says several things | Sep 23 05:19 |
| schestowitz | 1) it's not Linux | Sep 23 05:19 |
| schestowitz | 2) it's some clueless marketing loser | Sep 23 05:19 |
| schestowitz | 3) it's acting like a PAC, an unregulated influence front | Sep 23 05:19 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Microsoft is Not an Open Source Authority But an Opponent of Open Source http://techrights.org/2019/09/23/microsoft-as-king-of-open-source/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/29124320-25b7-40e7-b73d-3f4d7026479a] | Sep 23 06:06 | |
| ---MinceR_ is now known as MinceR | Sep 23 06:27 | |
| schestowitz | DarwinElf: they pay him a million per year | Sep 23 06:53 |
| DarwinElf | :O | Sep 23 06:53 |
| schestowitz | plus bonus | Sep 23 06:54 |
| DarwinElf | well that's fine then but I wonder how Linux got corpoRATized | Sep 23 06:54 |
| schestowitz | I am writing an article about it right now | Sep 23 06:54 |
| schestowitz | also see http://techrights.org/2019/07/30/the-linux-foundation-oaas/ | Sep 23 06:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation: Openwashing as a Service (OaaS) | Techrights | Sep 23 06:54 | |
| DarwinElf | ok | Sep 23 06:54 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/09/23/the-dying-open-source-brand/ | Sep 23 07:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI Did Not Guard the Open Source Brand; Now Its Own Name, Open Source Initiative, is Being ‘Diluted’ and “Open Source” is Almost Meaningless | Techrights | Sep 23 07:10 | |
| schestowitz | I used the term "Corporate Linux Foundation" | Sep 23 07:10 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/ARkbvVr.jpg https://i.imgur.com/0vuWxhq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gc3dv5U.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FuIvPm8.jpg | Sep 23 07:14 |
| MinceR | https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/abr6rPE_460swp.webp | Sep 23 07:19 |
| DarwinElf | good article. However what I'm wondering is how Linus Torvalds handed over some control to this corporation that did all this stuff and apparently pushed him to use the contributor covenant... but even before that... it's been corpoRATized maybe decades now | Sep 23 07:25 |
| schestowitz | nice, thanks, MinceR | Sep 23 07:25 |
| schestowitz | DarwinElf: they don't want to be seen as dictators | Sep 23 07:25 |
| schestowitz | so they make a Board | Sep 23 07:25 |
| DarwinElf | oh... | Sep 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | and then the Board calls them not dictators but "rude" or "sexist" | Sep 23 07:26 |
| DarwinElf | i subscribed to the Tech Rights RSS | Sep 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | "does not represent us" | Sep 23 07:26 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/06/29/ousting-linus-torvalds/ | Sep 23 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Campaign to Oust Linus Torvalds and Other Microsoft Critics at the ‘Linux’ Foundation | Techrights | Sep 23 07:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/15/professionalism-myth/ | Sep 23 07:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Myth of ‘Professionalism’ | Techrights | Sep 23 07:26 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2009/01/12/bill-gates-jihad-vs-linux/ | Sep 23 07:27 |
| DarwinElf | i don't see what's wrong with them being seen as dictators. The oldest GNU/Linux distribution (distro) Slackware, has Patrick Volkerding as benevolent dictator for life (BDFL)... it's always been a dependable distro. Of course, RMS and Linus aren't Pat | Sep 23 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates: “Where Are We on This Jihad?” (Against Linux at Intel) | Techrights | Sep 23 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/06/23/bill-gates-and-his-jihad/ | Sep 23 07:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bill Gates Said He Was on a “Jihad” Against GNU/Linux, But GNU/Linux Users/Developers Engaged in Self-Defense Are Foul-Mouthed ‘Microsoft Haters’? | Techrights | Sep 23 07:27 | |
| schestowitz | maybe they can push out Patrick one day, but his distro is no longer influential enough for corporations to try to subvert | Sep 23 07:28 |
| schestowitz | Corporate media never even mentioned Slackware anymore (I know because I have news alerts for the word) | Sep 23 07:28 |
| MinceR | they'll just fuck up Linux so much it won't be worth using | Sep 23 07:28 |
| schestowitz | s/mentioned/mentions/ | Sep 23 07:29 |
| MinceR | the LDF, i mean | Sep 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz | then we can move to BSD, which doesn't have copyleft | Sep 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz | so Apple and Microsoft can keep the "better versions" | Sep 23 07:29 |
| DarwinElf | RMS said it has copyleft | Sep 23 07:29 |
| DarwinElf | oops... maybe I meant 'Free Software' | Sep 23 07:29 |
| schestowitz | "At this point, Lennart Poettering is a more immediate EEE threat: "Systemd-homed: Systemd Now Working To Improve Home Directory Handling"" http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/36637/ | Sep 23 07:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-LXer: Misses the big picture completely: Call me crazy, but Windows 11 could run on Linux | Sep 23 07:30 | |
| DarwinElf | Free/Libre. He has two different definitions for that | Sep 23 07:30 |
| MinceR | they already do | Sep 23 07:31 |
| MinceR | there's even a flagrant GPL violator in the Linux-Destroying Foundation | Sep 23 07:31 |
| MinceR | at least one | Sep 23 07:31 |
| schestowitz | two | Sep 23 07:31 |
| MinceR | OTOH BSD licenses do allow for patent treachery | Sep 23 07:31 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft as caught at least thrice | Sep 23 07:31 |
| MinceR | on the third hand, Linux never moved to GPLv3 so m$ could do their patent treachery against it anyway | Sep 23 07:35 |
| DarwinElf | thanks for clearing things up, Dr. Schestowitz and everyone. TechRights was the only place that seemed to have the full story on the RMS controversy and maybe the earlier Linus Torvalds controversy (forgot now)... I'm on too many channels so might '/part' but will be watching the RSS almost every day and probably be back later | Sep 23 07:40 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman resigns, we share our thoughts and discuss the future for RMS and the FSF. | Sep 23 07:43 |
| schestowitz | Plus what systemd-homed is, why Debian is reconsidering init diversity, and some good news for CentOS. | Sep 23 07:43 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 07:43 |
| schestowitz | https://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/134872/linux-action-news-124/ | Sep 23 07:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jupiterbroadcasting.com | Linux Action News 124 | Jupiter Broadcasting | Sep 23 07:43 | |
| schestowitz | DarwinElf: cool, thanks, we'll keep watching, as we've done since 2006 | Sep 23 07:44 |
| *psydroid thinks it's time to create a new GPLv3 kernel+userland, if only as a contingency measure | Sep 23 07:47 | |
| schestowitz | maybe Oliva has a plan | Sep 23 07:49 |
| schestowitz | (but I doubt it; we speak a lot to him in Diaspora) | Sep 23 07:49 |
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| zoobab | https://web.archive.org/web/20190914212743/https://selamgano.wordpress.com/projects/ | Sep 23 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | Portfolio – selam jie gano | Sep 23 13:05 | |
| zoobab | https://web.archive.org/web/20190914212622/https://selamgano.wordpress.com/experience/ | Sep 23 13:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archive.org | About Me – selam jie gano | Sep 23 13:05 | |
| zoobab | https://jackbaruth.com/?p=16779 | Sep 23 13:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jackbaruth.com | Weekly Roundup: The Passion Of Saint iGNUcius Edition - Riverside Green | Sep 23 13:06 | |
| zoobab | her website is gone, but still on archive.org | Sep 23 13:06 |
| *psydroid wonders if any and how much money was involved | Sep 23 13:07 | |
| psydroid | https://twitter.com/bcantrill/status/1174792533416673280 | Sep 23 14:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bcantrill: Namaste, #OpenCoreSummit! 🙏 https://t.co/HxMWo8HHQ2 | Sep 23 14:23 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@bcantrill: Namaste, #OpenCoreSummit! 🙏 https://t.co/HxMWo8HHQ2 | Sep 23 14:23 | |
| schestowitz | ha | Sep 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz | [13:05] <zoobab> https://web.archive.org/web/20190914212743/https://selamgano.wordpress.com/projects/ | Sep 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz | Anything of particular interest in this first link? | Sep 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz | That second one helps establish the link to the Army and Microsoft | Sep 23 14:41 |
| schestowitz | I am not going to do another post about RMS saga; I will, however, name the role of IBM, media,.... | Sep 23 14:58 |
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| MinceR | > From a post on the Debian forum . . . "The aim of SystemD is RedHat ecosystem. Everything which is not RH-based thing is under attack because SystemD is Open Source Proprietary Software (OSPS)." | Sep 23 19:48 |
| MinceR | > We have a new acronym! Brilliant!! | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoronix/site-discussion/1127653-the-phoronix-premium-oktoberfest-2019-deal-support-linux-open-source-benchmarking#post1127653 | Sep 23 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Phoronix Premium Oktoberfest 2019 Deal - Support Linux/Open-Source Benchmarking - Phoronix Forums | Sep 23 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | Deal doesn't end until next week, whoops. Just realized 22nd date was shown rather than 29th. | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | RSS reader full-text is still being figured out for securing it and also the issue of graphs in articles. Some RSS readers don't like SVG and in that case would need to fall back to PNG, but in doing so dynamically would require JavaScript that is also a problem for some RSS readers. Just defaulting to PNG would degrade the experience for those that support SVG. | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | " | Sep 23 19:49 |
| schestowitz | "Unsure. No commercial supporters to it and due to thermal/power constraints I suspended it for the time being. Might resume it just for weeks around the merge window or something." | Sep 23 19:49 |
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