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| XRevan86 | scientes: I can't believe how much better Manjaro works on PinePhone than postmarketOS. | Dec 23 00:02 |
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| XRevan86 | Could be because pmOS 20.05 is somewhat older, but could be the Alpine base too. Hard to tell, when I updated pmOS to master, it just broke %). | Dec 23 00:06 |
| psydroid | Are those usable on the phone? | Dec 23 00:19 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Well, that's the idea anyway. | Dec 23 00:20 |
| psydroid | I find that on Allwinner A64 I can't really go above 1080p or the whole interface with slow down to a crawl | Dec 23 00:20 |
| psydroid | will* | Dec 23 00:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz I get $1,200 from the same bill they attached two otherwise impossible copyright bills to. | Dec 23 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This CASE Act will create a free for all. | Dec 23 00:24 |
| psydroid | I'm running Debian Bullseye on it, which is the first version of the distribution that works properly on it because most of the drivers are included | Dec 23 00:27 |
| vZS1 | People tormenting RMS have a lot of bad karma coming for them. The man is getting old. Let him live in peace. | Dec 23 00:34 |
| psydroid | The article about organisations not calling Microsoft and accomplices out for their non-products due to several taboos having been instituted is spot on | Dec 23 00:37 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: Well, I don't know about that. | Dec 23 00:38 |
| XRevan86 | postmarketOS with phosh is straight up unresponsive. | Dec 23 00:39 |
| psydroid | Some 20 companies are going to "cooperate to battle ransomware" so I said something to the tune of "paying for garbage, then paying for detection and lastly paying for post portem research" and got an angry response asking me what my approach would be and saying that it's easy to sit around and criticise while doing nothing | Dec 23 00:41 |
| psydroid | XRevan86, it must be terribly out of date and/or broken then, because it's generally pretty responsive with a lighter DE or WM | Dec 23 00:42 |
| XRevan86 | phosh is GNOME, so not that light | Dec 23 00:42 |
| psydroid | I don't use KDE or GNOME on that hardware, because it can't handle it | Dec 23 00:44 |
| psydroid | So yes, it must be a terrible experience | Dec 23 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | Manjaro with the very same phosh is a lot more smooth, that's the thing. | Dec 23 00:45 |
| XRevan86 | I'll try the master/edge version, maybe it'll behave differently. Pity I have to reflash it on the eMMC, I had Manjaro working there. | Dec 23 00:47 |
| psydroid | I would look at the Mesa drivers and the kernel, as they are still getting improved a lot | Dec 23 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | But the image pmOS is providing is an installer, so there's that. | Dec 23 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe I should've used pmbootstrap… eh, whatever. | Dec 23 00:47 |
| psydroid | Things started coming together at the start of the year for me | Dec 23 00:47 |
| XRevan86 | psydroid: The images are specifically made for this very device, so… | Dec 23 00:48 |
| psydroid | I wonder if I can run those images on my SBC, so I can get a better understanding of what's going on | Dec 23 00:49 |
| psydroid | Maybe with my own kernel build | Dec 23 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | The kernel is also specific for this device. | Dec 23 00:50 |
| psydroid | Which is just upstream 5.10.1 arm64 defconfig with some additional drivers enabled | Dec 23 00:51 |
| psydroid | Hmm, I wonder if some things haven't been upstreamed yet | Dec 23 00:51 |
| schestowitz | [00:24] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz I get $1,200 from the same bill they attached two otherwise impossible copyright bills to. | Dec 23 00:56 |
| schestowitz | They need to undo this | Dec 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | except the stimulus, which is too low anyway | Dec 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | they also attached more tax breaks for the rich | Dec 23 00:57 |
| schestowitz | the whole thing is "Failed State" in "stimulus" clothing | Dec 23 00:57 |
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| chovy | howdy | Dec 23 07:35 |
| chovy | anyone hiring svelte guy? | Dec 23 07:35 |
| chovy | or vue | Dec 23 07:35 |
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| schestowitz | chovy: svelte? | Dec 23 08:22 |
| schestowitz | ah, vue.js | Dec 23 08:23 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, yeah, I switched to mobian | Dec 23 08:43 |
| scientes | but yeah, I thought postmarketos would be good, but no | Dec 23 08:43 |
| schestowitz | I don't trust so-called 'phones' | Dec 23 08:45 |
| schestowitz | they're connected to a network at all times, unless you hobble them somehow | Dec 23 08:45 |
| schestowitz | the triangulation alone gives away your location, never mind the co-processor that typically enables remote takeover | Dec 23 08:46 |
| schestowitz | the tablets out there mostly run android sadly... and barely allow installing anything else | Dec 23 08:46 |
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| chovy | schestowitz: yeah svelte is awesome | Dec 23 08:54 |
| chovy | https://svelte.dev | Dec 23 08:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-svelte.dev | Svelte • Cybernetically enhanced web apps | Dec 23 08:54 | |
| chovy | beats the shit out of angular/react/vue | Dec 23 08:54 |
| schestowitz | I am not a jan of JS | Dec 23 08:54 |
| schestowitz | *fan | Dec 23 08:55 |
| schestowitz | it performs poorly in general, e.g. electron | Dec 23 08:55 |
| chovy | well the web is built with it | Dec 23 08:55 |
| schestowitz | and over the web it often does jobs better off done natively, without a servers | Dec 23 08:55 |
| chovy | i do mostly UI | Dec 23 08:55 |
| schestowitz | it's the "slap it on the web" mentality everywhere | Dec 23 08:55 |
| chovy | mongodb is web scale! | Dec 23 08:56 |
| schestowitz | I'll let you know if I hear of an opening? | Dec 23 08:56 |
| schestowitz | whereabouts roughly are you based? (I don't suppose it matters when people work remotely) | Dec 23 08:56 |
| scientes | avacadodb | Dec 23 08:57 |
| scientes | (I just made that one up) | Dec 23 08:57 |
| schestowitz | I like mongo soup | Dec 23 08:57 |
| scientes | schestowitz, and all the location-availability on online content | Dec 23 08:57 |
| scientes | nontent | Dec 23 08:57 |
| schestowitz | I like that term | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | I saw it earlier | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | I recently had that problem trying to download Xilinx | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | +1 LIIIIIIIIIIKED....... | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | schestowitz, it was me | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | scientes: +1 | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | like. | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | like me back | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | let's like each other | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | we'll both look popular | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | let's do it all day long, even during lunch breaks. LIIIKE | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 | Dec 23 08:58 |
| scientes | like on github | Dec 23 08:58 |
| schestowitz | I have x likes on github | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | will you hire me? Plllleasse liks.. | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | *like | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | "Dad, how was your career?" | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | "son, back then we have liked and I got 1,000 of them" | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | "but dad, what's a like?" | Dec 23 08:59 |
| scientes | lol | Dec 23 08:59 |
| schestowitz | "it's like a click, son" | Dec 23 09:00 |
| schestowitz | son: "ohh..." | Dec 23 09:00 |
| schestowitz | so you clicked a thousand times? | Dec 23 09:00 |
| scientes | "son, and as soon as someone else has more likes than you you have to give up your seat to them, and then you are homeless" | Dec 23 09:00 |
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| schestowitz | will work for likes | Dec 23 09:00 |
| schestowitz | never mind food | Dec 23 09:00 |
| psydroid | there is arango db, the closest to avocado db | Dec 23 09:01 |
| scientes | platanodb | Dec 23 09:01 |
| scientes | pineappledb | Dec 23 09:01 |
| schestowitz | yotta | Dec 23 09:01 |
| scientes | tamarinddb | Dec 23 09:01 |
| schestowitz | sounds like mono-based | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | because they use monkey names, never mind fruit | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | xamarin | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | tamarin | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | now part of Microsoft | Dec 23 09:02 |
| scientes | schestowitz, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarind | Dec 23 09:02 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Tamarind - Wikipedia | Dec 23 09:02 | |
| schestowitz | and their 'CEO' became ShitHub | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | so you know mono was going nowhere | Dec 23 09:02 |
| schestowitz | scientes: yes, I know it's not the same | Dec 23 09:02 |
| scientes | it is a fucking bean tree | Dec 23 09:03 |
| schestowitz | I know | Dec 23 09:03 |
| schestowitz | I tasted it | Dec 23 09:03 |
| schestowitz | I "LIKED" it. 👍👍👍 | Dec 23 09:03 |
| schestowitz | I even "SHARED" it on "maaaa insta" | Dec 23 09:03 |
| chovy | checkout inertiajs.com | Dec 23 09:04 |
| chovy | https://inertiajs.com | Dec 23 09:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-inertiajs.com | Inertia.js - The Modern Monolith | Dec 23 09:04 | |
| chovy | its a bunch of shit glue code. lol | Dec 23 09:04 |
| chovy | why would i need this? | Dec 23 09:04 |
| psydroid | they need shithub and steal other people's projects, because they make it so hard to write code for their platform of the day that few people are willing to do that anymore | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | it's about more than that | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | vertical integration | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | licence choice | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | copyleft becomes permissive | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | IDE usage diverted to MSVS | Dec 23 09:05 |
| schestowitz | deployment to server AZUNE [sic] | Dec 23 09:06 |
| schestowitz | they're bleeding in those areas | Dec 23 09:06 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/22/windows-servers-dying-breed/ | Dec 23 09:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft Windows/IIS Down Again (Across All Server Categories), Merely Living/Surviving on ‘Borrowed Time’ | Techrights | Dec 23 09:06 | |
| psydroid | vertical integration on a foundation of quicksand, I wonder for how much longer that can and will last | Dec 23 09:17 |
| schestowitz | it was costly | Dec 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | first, acquisition | Dec 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | from the VCs | Dec 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | and second, it operates at a loss | Dec 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | so the longer they hold it for, the higher the cost | Dec 23 09:24 |
| schestowitz | source: SEC http://techrights.org/2020/04/08/githug/ | Dec 23 09:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | GitHug – A Guest Article by Thomas Grzybowski | Techrights | Dec 23 09:25 | |
| chovy | i want to join a union | Dec 23 09:31 |
| chovy | does that make me a commie? | Dec 23 09:31 |
| schestowitz | what's the connection? | Dec 23 09:31 |
| chovy | lol | Dec 23 09:39 |
| chovy | i havfe no idea. that's just what i'm told | Dec 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | I reckon it was partly a joke, tongue in cheek | Dec 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | unions turn capitalism against itself | Dec 23 09:39 |
| schestowitz | in communism I don't think unions would have much purpose | Dec 23 09:40 |
| schestowitz | unions leverage financial leverage against the capital holder to make demands or prevent unfavored policies being adopted | Dec 23 09:41 |
| schestowitz | you could argue unions are a very CAPITALIST thing | Dec 23 09:41 |
| scientes | or they are just more blood-sucking politicians | Dec 23 09:41 |
| scientes | under every rock lurks a politician | Dec 23 09:42 |
| schestowitz | if you own your factory/mill/service yourself, who would you strike or unionise AGAINST? | Dec 23 09:42 |
| schestowitz | scientes: not literally, yet.. | Dec 23 09:43 |
| chovy | i think when they changed the corporate mandate from "stakeholders" to "shareholders" everything went to shit | Dec 23 09:43 |
| schestowitz | the rocks are building up though | Dec 23 09:43 |
| scientes | schestowitz, the theory of communism and China/USSR/Vietnam are totally different things | Dec 23 09:43 |
| scientes | chovy, a stakeholder is whoever holds the steak? | Dec 23 09:43 |
| schestowitz | chovy: because few people hoard all the capital | Dec 23 09:43 |
| scientes | and is this a wooden stake, or a steak of a cow? | Dec 23 09:44 |
| schestowitz | so they can become "Stakeholders" in like a million businesses | Dec 23 09:44 |
| schestowitz | and just buy shares | Dec 23 09:44 |
| schestowitz | without caring about outcome/stake | Dec 23 09:44 |
| schestowitz | vultures basically | Dec 23 09:44 |
| scientes | mmmmmmm steak | Dec 23 09:45 |
| chovy | ribeyes | Dec 23 09:46 |
| chovy | or ny top sirloin | Dec 23 09:46 |
| scientes | or ever just shoulder strap | Dec 23 09:47 |
| scientes | steak is steak | Dec 23 09:47 |
| *psydroid wants to be a steakholder when he grows up | Dec 23 09:48 | |
| scientes | certainly better than breadwinner | Dec 23 09:48 |
| chovy | i'm grown up and i'm an ATM machine | Dec 23 09:52 |
| schestowitz | machine machine? | Dec 23 09:58 |
| scientes | PNS syndrome? | Dec 23 10:06 |
| scientes | chovy, what is your PIN number? | Dec 23 10:07 |
| schestowitz | ATMs don't have pin numbers | Dec 23 10:15 |
| schestowitz | the accounts associated with the pieces of plastic have pin numbers | Dec 23 10:16 |
| schestowitz | I guess ATMs with Windows on them have ACTIVATION CODE ^_^ | Dec 23 10:17 |
| scientes | personal identification number number | Dec 23 10:27 |
| scientes | automated teller machine machine | Dec 23 10:27 |
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| scientes | brrrrrrrrrr | Dec 23 10:29 |
| scientes | wet + cold | Dec 23 10:29 |
| scientes | I should put on swim trunks and run around outside in the rain | Dec 23 10:31 |
| scientes | oh wow a whole week of sun in coming | Dec 23 10:32 |
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| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/8LiMR2BYpVk | Dec 23 11:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Apple conducts the audits that matter... - YouTube | Dec 23 11:47 | |
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| scientes | brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | Dec 23 12:50 |
| vZS1 | MS is not a business. It's like a state or political entity. Made a monopoly and now leverages the benefits of monopoly to try to shape the world. | Dec 23 12:53 |
| scientes | Foxconn is something very different | Dec 23 12:54 |
| vZS1 | The typical business doesn't have the privileges of MS or Amazon | Dec 23 12:54 |
| scientes | XRevan86, what really blows me away about Apple is the arrogance | Dec 23 12:58 |
| scientes | the sky is the limit | Dec 23 12:58 |
| vZS1 | If they can't buy the competition they will leverage monopoly to make life harder for competition | Dec 23 12:59 |
| vZS1 | Look at Amazon. They used AWS to operate their e-commerce at a loss until they basically dominated e-commerce and logistics | Dec 23 13:00 |
| vZS1 | I think this is one of the reasons why AT&T wasn't allowed to get into the computing market. Idk what happened to the "anti-trust" or whatever you call it hard | Dec 23 13:03 |
| vZS1 | s/hard/laws | Dec 23 13:04 |
| scientes | If only there wasn't this stupid "cloud" thing that prevent prices going down, then we wouldn't even need YouTUbe | Dec 23 13:05 |
| vZS1 | I recently ordered a laptop battery from what looked like an independent e-commerce site. I ended up with an Amazon receipt. | Dec 23 13:05 |
| scientes | the only reason YouTube exists is to as an excuse to keep bandwidth markups | Dec 23 13:06 |
| CrystalMath | what happened with youtube now? | Dec 23 13:06 |
| scientes | it is the excuse to keep bandwidth expensive | Dec 23 13:06 |
| vZS1 | That's the extent of their reach | Dec 23 13:06 |
| schestowitz | our site does not have b/w caps, afaik | Dec 23 13:07 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: will that be the same with the new server/dc? | Dec 23 13:07 |
| schestowitz | (because we do videos, too) | Dec 23 13:07 |
| *schestowitz uploads a 130mb video right now, takes almost 2 hours | Dec 23 13:08 | |
| vZS1 | Serving media is always a PITA | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | BTW | Dec 23 13:09 |
| vZS1 | Especially if you don't use compression | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | iophk will like this point: | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | [12:53] <vZS1> MS is not a business. It's like a state or political entity. Made a monopoly and now leverages the benefits of monopoly to try to shape the world. | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | we made this point sooooo many times before | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | but go a step further | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | and consider the role of the ringleader | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | who leveraged himself into unelected shadow global leaders | Dec 23 13:09 |
| schestowitz | no oversight, no impeachment, nothing.. | Dec 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz | never even finished college | Dec 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz | he is not alone | Dec 23 13:10 |
| vZS1 | The problem I have is that you are forced to enable them as well. | Dec 23 13:10 |
| schestowitz | but if you name some of the others you can be dragged into the "cons. theorist" loony bin | Dec 23 13:11 |
| vZS1 | For example | Dec 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz | taxpayers pay them | Dec 23 13:11 |
| vZS1 | You can't really reject MS when your government relies on them | Dec 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz | grifting is done by the bribed politicians | Dec 23 13:11 |
| vZS1 | Precisely | Dec 23 13:11 |
| vZS1 | That's not business | Dec 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz | that's the circular issue | Dec 23 13:11 |
| vZS1 | That's corruption | Dec 23 13:11 |
| schestowitz | Covered many times in http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Gates_Foundation_Critique | Dec 23 13:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Gates Foundation Critique - Techrights | Dec 23 13:12 | |
| schestowitz | he lobbies heads of states | Dec 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz | to basically relay tax money into his 'charity' | Dec 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz | so he cannot lose, not even if he really tries to | Dec 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz | covid19 may have accelerated unrest while neutralising responses to it | Dec 23 13:12 |
| schestowitz | "stimulus" bill.... a war on the Web | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | like streams with fair use videos | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | it can be a felony to make a video that debunks oligarchs' speeches | Dec 23 13:13 |
| razielle_tzu | the way it's worded memes are a potential felony | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | yes, that too | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | they used to be fair use | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | still image | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | an low res | Dec 23 13:13 |
| schestowitz | the low res part comes from eu (art. 17) | Dec 23 13:14 |
| schestowitz | (iirc, the number, they shuffled those around after weeks of criticism) | Dec 23 13:14 |
| schestowitz | (to disorientate critics) | Dec 23 13:14 |
| schestowitz | no idea what low-res is | Dec 23 13:14 |
| razielle_tzu | having to be low res in this day is stupid | Dec 23 13:14 |
| schestowitz | maybe 480px across? | Dec 23 13:14 |
| schestowitz | also you can split the memes into smaller images | Dec 23 13:15 |
| schestowitz | and then sort of seam them together | Dec 23 13:15 |
| vZS1 | The premise that one still from your entire film or whatever being shared is copyright infringement is bollocks | Dec 23 13:16 |
| vZS1 | If anything, it's helping them with free advertising | Dec 23 13:16 |
| scientes | this whole iPhone factory destruction says alot about that status of the US empire | Dec 23 13:17 |
| scientes | Full Steam Ahead! | Dec 23 13:17 |
| schestowitz | and by Indian workers | Dec 23 13:18 |
| vZS1 | The TR argument I read about this being really an effort to enable trolling by proxy seems like the most plausible explanation | Dec 23 13:18 |
| schestowitz | India isn't very US hostile | Dec 23 13:18 |
| schestowitz | as much as Britain- or even China-hostile | Dec 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz | Check Korea, Greece, Turkey for more anti-US sentiments... or Iran and much of that region... BUT | Dec 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz | it's not just a US thing | Dec 23 13:19 |
| schestowitz | even if the US empire collapsed, the oligarchs would still be around in their 'fallback' homes and mansions with offshore tax haven managed from london, amsterdam, singapore, Macao... | Dec 23 13:20 |
| schestowitz | we need to treat it as a global issue associated with not mere flags and borders | Dec 23 13:20 |
| razielle_tzu | which it is tbh | Dec 23 13:25 |
| Ariadne | schestowitz: yes | Dec 23 13:35 |
| Ariadne | new DC has much stronger network even | Dec 23 13:35 |
| schestowitz | great :-) room for growth | Dec 23 13:42 |
| schestowitz | oh, video upload finished a minute ago... time to publish good news about UPC | Dec 23 13:43 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/23/upc-coup-by-pseudo-journalism/ | Dec 23 13:50 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | More Pseudo-Journalism About the Unified Patent Court (UPC), Composed by Those With Stake in the Coup | Techrights | Dec 23 13:50 | |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: just counted files in techrights homedir: 170k+ files | Dec 23 14:58 |
| schestowitz | it's a bit tight on disk space though | Dec 23 14:58 |
| schestowitz | because we need around 10gb free just to complete overnight backups before the dumps get compressed | Dec 23 14:58 |
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| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/llogiq/status/1341672159220015106 | Dec 23 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@llogiq: @schestowitz As one of the "overzealous" reddit mods, I'm totally unimpressed. We removed the comment because it wa… https://t.co/lwbB80MRJ5 | Dec 23 15:26 | |
| schestowitz | "As one of the "overzealous" reddit mods, I'm totally unimpressed. We removed the comment because it was off-topic. When the commenter continued with off-topic anti-MS zealotry, they received a warning. For the record, off-topic pro-MS zealotry would've been equally removed." | Dec 23 15:26 |
| schestowitz | "MS zealotry" | Dec 23 15:26 |
| schestowitz | got it | Dec 23 15:26 |
| schestowitz | in rust reddit/sub | Dec 23 15:27 |
| schestowitz | it's zealotry | Dec 23 15:27 |
| schestowitz | microsoft? NOT zealotry | Dec 23 15:27 |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/gilescope/status/1341667327234981888 | Dec 23 15:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@gilescope: @schestowitz Credit where credit is due, Rust has moved towards matrix for chat. When there is a viable distributed… https://t.co/SClDFABP6J | Dec 23 15:28 | |
| schestowitz | "Credit where credit is due, Rust has moved towards matrix for chat. When there is a viable distributed alternative to guthub I am sure it will be seriously considered" | Dec 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | "viable distributed alternative to guthub" | Dec 23 15:28 |
| vZS1 | Lmao | Dec 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | "guthub" is NOT dstrobuted | Dec 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | it's the OPPOSITE | Dec 23 15:28 |
| schestowitz | it's centralised | Dec 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | and proprietary | Dec 23 15:29 |
| schestowitz | and immovable | Dec 23 15:29 |
| vZS1 | Don't forget that people have been doing distributed development long before GitHub | Dec 23 15:29 |
| vZS1 | They're attacking the definitions | Dec 23 15:30 |
| vZS1 | Because they know it's all a sham | Dec 23 15:30 |
| vZS1 | GCC, Linux kernel, BSDs, are all developed in a distributed fashion and have been for decades now. | Dec 23 15:33 |
| vZS1 | They want to define distributed development as GitHub | Dec 23 15:34 |
| psydroid | gutterhub (negative) revenue is dostrobuted among MS advocates spamming the internet with MS gutterhub advertising | Dec 23 15:36 |
| vZS1 | I honestly can't believe how stupid you'd need to be too buy that narrative | Dec 23 15:37 |
| vZS1 | s/too/to | Dec 23 15:37 |
| vZS1 | Have read a lot of tripe but that is some of the worst I've seen | Dec 23 15:40 |
| vZS1 | Who wrote that? | Dec 23 15:40 |
| vZS1 | ALSO | Dec 23 15:41 |
| vZS1 | GitLab is a direct competitor to GitHub | Dec 23 15:42 |
| vZS1 | Why is that not mentioned? | Dec 23 15:42 |
| vZS1 | Literally mirrors most of the functionality | Dec 23 15:42 |
| vZS1 | schestowitz: I don't have Twitter, can you please send me a screenshot of the post? I need to rip a hole in this propaganda | Dec 23 15:45 |
| schestowitz | you can rip it with the urll | Dec 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | if that still works | Dec 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | they block people who reject JS now | Dec 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | sincd dec 16 | Dec 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | since | Dec 23 15:46 |
| schestowitz | https://tweetcyborg.com/ | Dec 23 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tweetcyborg.com | Convert tweet to image - Home | Tweet Cyborg | Dec 23 15:47 | |
| schestowitz | put it here, download png | Dec 23 15:47 |
| vZS1 | Ah | Dec 23 15:47 |
| vZS1 | I'll give you a piece on it over the weekend | Dec 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | please do | Dec 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I'd like to also follow up that piece with a video | Dec 23 15:49 |
| vZS1 | Sure | Dec 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | I have not covered github yet | Dec 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | but ought to | Dec 23 15:49 |
| schestowitz | the rust 'community' keeps using this "line" | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | I can find more | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | notice the wording | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | they don't say decentralised | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | but distributed | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | slack and "teams" also | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | MS Teams | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | they use words like "distributed teams" | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | all controlled by one master | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | distributed like in a ghetto | Dec 23 15:50 |
| schestowitz | "scattered around"... like dust | Dec 23 15:51 |
| vZS1 | Even with a very loose interpretation of distributed, that comment is BS | Dec 23 15:51 |
| vZS1 | re: my GitLab example | Dec 23 15:52 |
| vZS1 | But there's so much more to say on that | Dec 23 15:52 |
| psydroid | distributed and controlled by a central power | Dec 23 15:53 |
| psydroid | I have to give them that they surely know how to twist words to fit their agenda | Dec 23 15:53 |
| vZS1 | Unless you actually know what you're doing. Then you see straight through the BS | Dec 23 15:54 |
| psydroid | that must be kinds of people they spend more attention to during the hiring process than the software engineers who are supposed to write good code | Dec 23 15:54 |
| psydroid | you have to set the priorities straight, you know | Dec 23 15:54 |
| vZS1 | They scrounge off other engineers' work. For free. | Dec 23 15:55 |
| vZS1 | Which is why they hate AGPL | Dec 23 15:56 |
| vZS1 | They can't hide that with AGPL. They have to tell the world they didn't actually make what they claim to have made | Dec 23 15:56 |
| vZS1 | Most of why they get contracts if because of clever marketing | Dec 23 15:57 |
| vZS1 | is* | Dec 23 15:57 |
| vZS1 | Whole UK going into Tier 4 lockdown from 26th Dec | Dec 23 16:00 |
| vZS1 | Just happens to be the day after Christmas | Dec 23 16:00 |
| vZS1 | "Spikes in cases after Christmas celebrations" | Dec 23 16:01 |
| vZS1 | Urgent lockdown | Dec 23 16:01 |
| vZS1 | Can see the headlines already | Dec 23 16:01 |
| vZS1 | Bunch of BS | Dec 23 16:01 |
| schestowitz | wait | Dec 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | is this news or just thinking aloud? | Dec 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | my wife did not hear about this tier 4 thing | Dec 23 16:12 |
| schestowitz | I thought it was just London and some town I forgot north of it | Dec 23 16:12 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2020/10/09/bofh_2020_episode_7/ | Dec 23 16:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | BOFH: Rome, I have been thy soldier 40 years... give me a staff of honour for mine age • The Register | Dec 23 16:19 | |
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| vZS1 | Thinking aloud | Dec 23 16:24 |
| vZS1 | Don't be surprised if it becomes news | Dec 23 16:25 |
| schestowitz | Northern Ireland | Dec 23 16:30 |
| MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2020/11/13/bofh_2020_episode_8/ | Dec 23 16:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theregister.com | BOFH: You might want to sit down for this. Oh, right, you can't. Listen carefully: THIS IS NOT AN IT PROBLEM! • The Register | Dec 23 16:31 | |
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| *schestowitz thinks MinceR really likes British humour | Dec 23 16:40 | |
| schestowitz | (what's left of it after brexit and covid) | Dec 23 16:40 |
| MinceR | :) | Dec 23 16:42 |
| vZS1 | Check out the old Spitting Image | Dec 23 16:53 |
| vZS1 | New one lost its teeth | Dec 23 16:53 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705426.jpg | Dec 23 16:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.mmorpg.com/news/gog-says-dont-hoard-items-or-lose-your-save-investor-considers-lawsuit-2000120464 | Dec 23 16:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GOG Says Don't Hoard Items or Lose Your Save, Investor Considers Lawsuit | MMORPG.com | Dec 23 16:57 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | A class action lawsuit against CD Project Red over Cyberpunk 2077 being too broken to play. Their investors say they're losing a considerable amount of money because it was rushed to release and that even after four patch updates it's still too broken for people to want to buy it. | Dec 23 16:58 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: did Trump say something stupid again? | Dec 23 16:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | A fifth patch is on the way that will clear up several dozen more issues, but the game is basically Windows Vista 2077 at this point. | Dec 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: I am missing the reference | Dec 23 16:59 |
| MinceR | probably, but i don't know | Dec 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz | but he mistook germany for france before | Dec 23 16:59 |
| MinceR | it's just a bunch of settlements called Paris in the USA | Dec 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Dec 23 16:59 |
| schestowitz | lots of londons too | Dec 23 16:59 |
| MinceR | there's a London in Canada too | Dec 23 16:59 |
| MinceR | what, Cyberpunk 2077 is an MMO? | Dec 23 17:00 |
| MinceR | not like i'll find out from "LOADING: The Website" | Dec 23 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.whio.com/news/local/flu-hospitalizations-drop-dramatically-covid-19-protocol-reducing-spread/NPXZVPXBZ5A5XGBBGNLFU4FHOI/ | Dec 23 17:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.whio.com | Flu hospitalizations drop dramatically; COVID-19 protocol reducing spread | Dec 23 17:01 | |
| vZS1 | Bit of a tangent but there's a series of novels called Rivers of London. Pretty good imo. | Dec 23 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The state of Ohio says that flu hospitalizations are down 99.5% vs last year. | Dec 23 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, that might be hospitals turning away people with the flu as much as anything else. | Dec 23 17:02 |
| vZS1 | Londonium | Dec 23 17:02 |
| vZS1 | Anywhere with that name? :p | Dec 23 17:03 |
| vZS1 | Londinium* | Dec 23 17:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On an exceptionally bad year, flu is one sixth as deadly as Covid-19, and many states and regions are out of ICU beds already. | Dec 23 17:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So you start telling people with the flu to beat it. | Dec 23 17:03 |
| *psydroid remembers a Catatonia song called Londinium | Dec 23 17:03 | |
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| vZS1 | Didn't know there was a song | Dec 23 17:10 |
| schestowitz | https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/12/22/the-winters-tale-solstice-on-the-streets-of-paris/ | Dec 23 17:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Winter's Tale: Solstice on the Streets of Paris - CounterPunch.org | Dec 23 17:19 | |
| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/22/79a68fa0ae526a0d.jpg | Dec 23 17:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://videocardz.com/newz/xbox-one-x-and-playstation-4-pro-get-performance-boost-with-cyberpunk-2077-1-05-patch | Dec 23 17:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-XBOX One (X) and PlayStation 4 (PRO) get performance boost with Cyberpunk 2077 1.05 patch - VideoCardz.com | Dec 23 17:40 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Xbox One goes from 14 fps to 25. | Dec 23 17:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How do you even release a game that can drop to 14 fps without much going on? | Dec 23 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's going from unplayable to barely playable. | Dec 23 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I remember Sony doing the Cell Broadband Engine in the PS3 and it hobbled the console for its entire lifespan. | Dec 23 17:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It made ports from the PC more difficult because of the strange SPE execution pipe. | Dec 23 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So some games actually barely did anything at all with them and ran most of the code on the central processor that was mostly there to manage the SPEs. | Dec 23 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sony said the architecture was revolutionary and would be in use for a long time and then nothing else used it and it was dropped from GCC and LLVM last year. | Dec 23 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sony has had to live with several disasters that set them back, but one thing these systems do is ensure customer retention by making it impossible to port anything you've purchased to another console or a PC gaming platform. | Dec 23 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So people keep buying from the same company no matter what happens. | Dec 23 17:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Microsoft Store on Windows is intended to do that, but it's overran by low quality and outright fraudulent apps and Microsoft has tried laying down restrictions that they can hardly enforce because nobody accepts Windows 10 S. | Dec 23 17:50 |
| MinceR | never believe suits | Dec 23 17:50 |
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| MinceR | also, i don't know why people expected a game that, when run on PC, has high hardware requirements to be playable on consoles | Dec 23 17:51 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They usually solve the problem by lowering the resolution to below HD and turning down graphics and cutting out parts of levels and stuff. | Dec 23 17:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Doom 3 was a very tough game on PCs at the time and they put it on the original xbox. Part of it anyway. | Dec 23 17:52 |
| MinceR | it was funny to read about how long they had to keep crippling doom ports to consoles | Dec 23 17:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And while it wasn't the worst PC to console port of the entire Doom franchise, it was not the full game. | Dec 23 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was the same price as the PC version, which had better graphics and more game play hours and no loading screens. | Dec 23 17:53 |
| MinceR | because consoles just kept on being way too weak to handle something that ran fine on a 486 | Dec 23 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Within the same level at least. | Dec 23 17:53 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: let us know where to pay into, for your time, effort, etc | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Xbox version would have like 4 or 5 open door get loading screen segments. | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It got really annoying. | Dec 23 17:54 |
| MinceR | doom3 does have loading screens | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And they skipped over huge chunks of the game that way. | Dec 23 17:54 |
| MinceR | they just aren't displayed long enough for me to read the flavor text on them :> | Dec 23 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, when you're running the game off an SSD, like Fallout New Vegas, it just zips right through. | Dec 23 17:55 |
| MinceR | i am running it off an ssd | Dec 23 17:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've had New Vegas hard freeze Windows 10 a couple times. | Dec 23 17:56 |
| MinceR | oh, you meant within a level | Dec 23 17:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No bsod just frozen. | Dec 23 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not since the latest Intel driver patch, but we'll see. | Dec 23 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "oh, you meant within a level"> Yeah, so they partitioned Doom 3 levels to deal with Xbox memory constraints. | Dec 23 17:57 |
| MinceR | :> | Dec 23 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The console only had 64 MB of main memory, so they couldn't buffer the whole level into that. | Dec 23 17:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They cheaper out big time on the Xbox and it's amazing it worked as well as it did | Dec 23 17:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *cheaped | Dec 23 17:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The hard disks were 5400 RPM because those saved a few bucks per console. | Dec 23 17:59 |
| MinceR | unless you count all the times it (or its power supply) fried itself :> | Dec 23 17:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The main board wasn't even specifically designed for it. | Dec 23 18:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It had an empty RAM slot that it didn't use. | Dec 23 18:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You could upgrade that and make use of 128 MB total RAM under Linux. | Dec 23 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | Qwant natribu.org's Russian IPs now. | Dec 23 18:01 |
| MinceR | or you could just buy a PC instead | Dec 23 18:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's amazing how they could make operating systems and browsers and everything work fine on computers from 20 years ago and those same computers wouldn't do anything now. | Dec 23 18:02 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/705113.jpg | Dec 23 18:03 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: soup is good at restoring sobriety | Dec 23 18:24 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I sent this to electoral-vote.com, but I doubt they'll post it: | Dec 23 19:10 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tspoVxkUzgeidweEAnkOpPAc/message.txt > | Dec 23 19:10 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I fear that people who use "real name only" social media are going to regret it, but when it's too late. | Dec 23 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | YOu think Facebook's copyright bullshit is bad now, just wait. | Dec 23 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They've largely been "handling" it with computer programs that mute all your videos if there's a song playing in a restaurant or something. | Dec 23 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine how anything has much fun on a network that is so heavy handed. | Dec 23 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *anyone | Dec 23 19:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook is proven to be corrosive to mental health and wellbeing, because all you end up doing is looking at ads, doomscrolling, and "hate-liking" photos of someone's vacation that they weren't even happy with. | Dec 23 19:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everyone is incentivized by these platforms to puff themselves up and create a world of alternative facts where they're something that they're not. | Dec 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a pointless and miserable waste of a person's short life. | Dec 23 19:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump is pardoning Blackwater war criminals that already got off too easily. | Dec 23 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They won't be let out of jail because none of them got sentenced for very long terms to begin with. | Dec 23 19:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rod Blagojevich actually served more time for trying to sell Barack Obama's Senate seat than any of those Blackwater mercenaries did for firing into a crowd of unarmed civilians. | Dec 23 19:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/23/tech/kfc-games-console-chicken-scli-intl/index.html | Dec 23 19:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-edition.cnn.com | KFC launches game console that keeps your chicken warm - CNN | Dec 23 19:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Just what we need in the middle of a pandemic that kills obese people. | Dec 23 19:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, thanks to Trump's leadership, we no longer have a pandemic. | Dec 23 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We have an epidemic that the vaccine will slow down a very small bit, if we're extremely fortunate. | Dec 23 19:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Florida's governor ignored the CDC. | Dec 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Essential workers don't get any vaccines. It all goes, broadly, to people over 70. | Dec 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then he says "Well, if you asked people in their 20s and 30s, I'm sure that most of them would say give it to the people over 70.". | Dec 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I don't, and that's not entirely selfish. | Dec 23 19:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Unchecked community spread is how it's getting to the elderly. | Dec 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm sure that the idiots in the Lake County Health Department will manage to bungle this. | Dec 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody there knows what the hell they're doing. | Dec 23 19:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Their billing department can't tell you why you owe them money. | Dec 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have patient data breaches all the time. | Dec 23 19:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government is where people who are unemployable but know somebody get a job for life. | Dec 23 19:41 |
| vZS1 | DaemonFC[m]: Social media is just advertising | Dec 23 20:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-workchronicles.com | Annual Planning | Work Chronicles | Dec 23 20:35 | |
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| XRevan86 | https://cv1.pikabu.ru/video/2020/12/23/1608705771241470120_406x720.webm | Dec 23 20:56 |
| MinceR | lol | Dec 23 20:57 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If they want to reopen everything, it would be better from a certain angle to give the vaccine to people who are out and about a lot and healthcare workers. | Dec 23 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The old people at the retirement home mom works at put maybe 200 miles a year on their cars. They don't have to go anywhere. | Dec 23 21:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't even go to church now. | Dec 23 21:27 |
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| psydroid | is there any reason for using Windows or macOS for embedded development? why wouldn't GNU/Linux on any architecture be acceptable and actually better for that kind of work? | Dec 23 21:49 |
| psydroid | I see so many arguments from all kinds of steakholders for retaining the status quo that it looks like a big concerted effort to keep GNU/Linux away from the desktop | Dec 23 21:50 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/704402.jpg | Dec 23 22:19 |
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| schestowitz | [21:49] <psydroid> is there any reason for using Windows or macOS for embedded development? why wouldn't GNU/Linux on any architecture be acceptable and actually better for that kind of work? | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | moneyed interests | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | that may change more and more over time | Dec 23 22:38 |
| schestowitz | it's not a technical battle | Dec 23 22:38 |
| MinceR | plus there are tons of alleged "developers" who know nothing | Dec 23 22:55 |
| MinceR | which is why the redmond mafia gets to sell copies of visual studio | Dec 23 22:55 |
| scientes | I just installed skyrim | Dec 23 22:57 |
| MinceR | i installed Amid Evil today :> | Dec 23 22:58 |
| scientes | but I don't know if it is me but I can't control my character with keyboard/mouse | Dec 23 22:58 |
| scientes | it is too difficult | Dec 23 22:58 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft was giving away "free" Windows 10 IoT licenses for the Raspberry Pi, but that version of Windows can't really do much of anything. | Dec 23 23:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As far as smartphones, I couldn't really see how Windows Phone would have been worse than iOS. | Dec 23 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Microsoft threw in the towel and has been threatening and buying off companies like Samsung to turn Android into Windows Phone. | Dec 23 23:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My theory about the Android apps on Windows thing is that Microsoft knows few people want or need Android apps on a desktop computer. | Dec 23 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But.... | Dec 23 23:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they can make Windows and the Microsoft store an easy way to develop, test, and distribute Android apps, they can possibly get Samsung or other Android OEMs to start shipping a version of AOSP that's linked into Microsoft Store and a bunch of other things. Essentially, they seem to be trying to get back what they could have had already if they hadn't instinctively killed the Nokia X platform. | Dec 23 23:13 |
| *psydroid just finished porting his assembly to RISC-V as a learning project | Dec 23 23:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not too hard to see where this is going. | Dec 23 23:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nobody was really much interested in developing for Windows Phone because nobody was using the platform. | Dec 23 23:14 |
| psydroid | Windows development itself is a disaster, which I found out by trying to compile a few free software applications during the past few days | Dec 23 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Visual Studio? | Dec 23 23:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The newer versions aren't as bad. | Dec 23 23:16 |
| psydroid | I tried several things, MSYS2, Git Bash, Visual Studio | Dec 23 23:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For many years, Microsoft had essentially refused to implement anything newer than C89. | Dec 23 23:16 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | It was to pressure Windows development towards .NET, and we see where the pointy haired bosses took that one. | Dec 23 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wouldn't be surprised if they find more backdoors in Solarwinds as the investigation continues. | Dec 23 23:17 |
| psydroid | And then you have them deprecating features or not porting certain frameworks to e.g. ARM, which will only get WPF in 6 months or so | Dec 23 23:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | .NET's security model isn't broken, because it doesn't have one. | Dec 23 23:18 |
| psydroid | Not that I know much about modern .NET, but you want things to be at least somewhat portable and that is only happening with .NET 5.0 | Dec 23 23:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, portability with .NET was a disaster, even between versions of Windows. | Dec 23 23:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This was ridiculous. | Dec 23 23:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not just versions of Windows like releases, or hugely different architectures, but between somewhat different versions of the same architecture and the same release of Windows. | Dec 23 23:20 |
| DaemonFC[m] | At one point I reported a bug in CDBurnerXP and the guy told me he had no way to test it because he didn't have XP x64 Edition. | Dec 23 23:21 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like why would it mess up on XP x64 but not the 64-bit version of Windows Vista? | Dec 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I held back one system on XP x64 Edition because I'd be damned if I put Vista anything on it. | Dec 23 23:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | XP x64 was much more stable, but Microsoft has ways of manipulating people into doing what they want them to do. | Dec 23 23:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So XP x64 was a stopgap, OEM-only release and so it didn't catch on much. | Dec 23 23:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it also solved the problem of having a lot of memory and not wanting to use Windows Vista. | Dec 23 23:24 |
| psydroid | I | Dec 23 23:24 |
| psydroid | I've never seen XP x64, because I didn't have 64-bit hardware until 2007 | Dec 23 23:25 |
| psydroid | But by that time I was already running Linux full-time with just an XP virtual machine for games | Dec 23 23:26 |
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| schestowitz | [23:15] <psydroid> Windows development itself is a disaster, which I found out by trying to compile a few free software applications during the past few days | Dec 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | I can vaguely recall this pain, I think I wrote about it 15 years ago | Dec 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | about 18 years ago I wanted to make a Windows binary of my opengl linux program | Dec 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | so I thought, OK, the university had this visual studio thing | Dec 23 23:33 |
| schestowitz | not only was it hard to use | Dec 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | i ended up having to toss all .h and .c files in two very large files | Dec 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | then compile those | Dec 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | and even then performance was really bad | Dec 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | but that was just to make some .exe file available, which I barely ever tested | Dec 23 23:34 |
| schestowitz | MSVS might work OK if you only even intended to develop on it and stay there | Dec 23 23:35 |
| schestowitz | IDEs are a form of lockin | Dec 23 23:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I remember when people were angry that the guy maintaining the xchat Windows build wanted money. | Dec 23 23:36 |
| schestowitz | I could not just load in all the C files and let it go off with that, I think i just spent a couple of hours before there was this binary which worked on Win2000 or maybe XP | Dec 23 23:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Saying that it wasn't zero effort for him to maintain a totally different build system and pare down GTK to de-bloat it, and write a theme to make it look like a Windows application. | Dec 23 23:36 |
| psydroid | when you think of your operating system itself as the development environment it's hard to work on something such as MS Windows where that isn't the case | Dec 23 23:36 |
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| schestowitz | they have "suites" | Dec 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and you're getting stuck with/by them | Dec 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | if you change the "suite" (not just editor/IDE), tough luck | Dec 23 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I think they've been working on some of the issues after many years of just letting them pile up. | Dec 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | you also have propriietary "project" files and whatnot | Dec 23 23:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But it's not a great platform to try to build software for. | Dec 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | and every "suite" won't work with another | Dec 23 23:37 |
| schestowitz | the Windows build was VEEERY inefficient, but I did not care | Dec 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | nor did I ever bother recompiling it again | Dec 23 23:38 |
| schestowitz | I did it on a university computer and it took longer than I thought it would, don't think I ever even tested that file after that | Dec 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | if you need time to learn a GUI, you could instead use the time to learn the toolchain instead | Dec 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | it will barely change over time | Dec 23 23:39 |
| schestowitz | and won't ask you for licence and activation codes | Dec 23 23:40 |
| MinceR | > if they hadn't instinctively killed the Nokia X platform. | Dec 23 23:40 |
| MinceR | you misspelled MeeGo :> | Dec 23 23:40 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: I've just sent out two emails to empty old pension and antother account of mine | Dec 23 23:41 |
| schestowitz | I think SHTF is about to happen next year (for the financial sector) | Dec 23 23:41 |
| schestowitz | I only keep my current pension | Dec 23 23:41 |
| schestowitz | we might retire by age 50... there's not much future for work in this world, except for few | Dec 23 23:42 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: Debian-based, they had several more | Dec 23 23:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've been pinching pennies. | Dec 23 23:42 |
| schestowitz | they were #3 in kernel work at the time | Dec 23 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I want to show immigration that we could survive for a year just on savings alone if we had to. | Dec 23 23:43 |
| MinceR | and then the Elopocalypse happened | Dec 23 23:43 |
| schestowitz | before Elop poured gasoline and declared it "burning platform" | Dec 23 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Makes it harder for them to say no. | Dec 23 23:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Plus, I've had worse happen in recent history and I want to show that getting seriously into debt to meet basic living expenses is unlikely. | Dec 23 23:44 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: | Dec 23 23:44 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/2020/12/23/ | Dec 23 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Social Control Media Posts | Dec 23 23:44 | |
| schestowitz | "US national #debt rapidly appoaching 30 TRILLION dollars. Hundreds of US oligarchs alone amasses more than half that amount in PERSONAL wealth. This isn't poverty but organised looting. ☞" | Dec 23 23:44 |
| schestowitz | ""What, you don't like the $600 check?" - corrupt politicians who don't tell you that YOU are paying for that check (debt) and the bill it comes with mostly helps oligarchs and Hollywood moguls. It's a scam, not a real #stimulus ... ☞" | Dec 23 23:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a way, it's better that Trump just vetoes everything and then slinks off to his golf resort. | Dec 23 23:44 |
| schestowitz | ":The US economy is finished; drained by oligarchs, who turned national/collective debt (almost 30 TRILLION dollars in the US now) into personal wealth in offshore accounts. Then they tell us "we ran out of capital..." https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/22/no-more-caving-austerity-warns-sanders-after-biden-lauds-paltry-covid-19-relief-deal ☞" | Dec 23 23:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.commondreams.org | 'No More Caving' to Austerity Warns Sanders After Biden Lauds Paltry Covid-19 Relief Deal as 'Model' Legislation | Common Dreams News | Dec 23 23:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not only does it show what he is, and how petty he is on the way out... | Dec 23 23:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It means that Congress will have to pass everything again without the excuse that they had 2 hours to read a 5,289 page bill that included two new copyright laws. | Dec 23 23:45 |
| schestowitz | this should be nullified | Dec 23 23:46 |
| schestowitz | on the basis of "insufficient time to study" | Dec 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | otherwise, the US is obviously no better than countries it mocks | Dec 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | with the most corrupt elements laid bare | Dec 23 23:47 |
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| schestowitz | OK, I just got two auto-responder messages | Dec 23 23:47 |
| schestowitz | to be expected during xmas eve | Dec 23 23:48 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/716269.jpg | Dec 23 23:48 |
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| schestowitz | ha, I thought about this before | Dec 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | referring to slaughterhouses and stuff and "plants" | Dec 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | what next? will they call debt cards "CREDIT"? | Dec 23 23:49 |
| schestowitz | *as "plants" | Dec 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: " | Dec 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Hi, | Dec 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | Over the next few days I intend to complete the steps below to the best | Dec 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | of my abilities to withdraw all the funds from my account at | Dec 23 23:50 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | Before I proceed, can you please confirm that this is doable and, if so, | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | whether any additional steps would be required. Please bear in mind that | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | irrespective of the holidays here many services are shut down due to | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | coronavisis, which may complicate some of the steps described. | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | I have all the documents required for electronic identity verification | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | with you. I would like to complete this by year's end, as a matter of | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | great urgency. | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | " | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | oops, typos on "virus" | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | I reckon if we move somewhere a lot cheaper we can retire early, no children to worry about, just food and meds basically | Dec 23 23:51 |
| schestowitz | (assuming site hosting isn't a massive financial burden) | Dec 23 23:52 |
| schestowitz | 2019: end of democracy | Dec 23 23:53 |
| schestowitz | impeachment, followed by acquittal, "Boris" elected, "Brexit for the rich" | Dec 23 23:53 |
| schestowitz | 2020: end of hospitality sector (flights, dining, hotels, lots more) | Dec 23 23:53 |
| schestowitz | 2021: what's left of physical stored shut down and boarded up, gradually | Dec 23 23:53 |
| schestowitz | next they'll go after "remote workers" | Dec 23 23:54 |
| schestowitz | replacing them with >nationally< remote workers | Dec 23 23:54 |
| schestowitz | you don't need to hire people at $30/hour to work from home in Europe/N America when you can hire people to do the same from somewhere like Asia or S America at $3/hour | Dec 23 23:55 |
| schestowitz | corporations like these will take taxpayers-backed bailouts and then send away the jobs, gradually, for "efficiency" | Dec 23 23:55 |
| schestowitz | hard to think of any "safe" jobs when physical on-site presence is no longer an essentiality/selling point | Dec 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz | or any physical presence is seen as a threat/liability, except maybe where you buy food/essential groceries like toiletries | Dec 23 23:56 |
| schestowitz | for deliveries they only need drivers, but many truckers and people like these also lost their jobs | Dec 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz | IIRC, the US has literally millions of them | Dec 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz | with debt over costs of large transport-oriented vehicles (similar to farmers with instruments like tractors) | Dec 23 23:57 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: but you get a one-time $600 check | Dec 23 23:58 |
| schestowitz | that'll last... like several weeks :-) | Dec 23 23:58 |
| schestowitz | maybe January 15th they'll pass another 5,300-page bill | Dec 23 23:58 |
| schestowitz | with some more "surprises" in it | Dec 23 23:58 |
| schestowitz | and then in January 19th Lumpy will declare "martial law" | Dec 23 23:59 |
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