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DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I've been accumulating all kinds of hand sanitizer.Aug 24 00:01
DaemonFC[m]The lady at the exit at Walmart yesterday looked at me funny because I got 5 handfuls of it out of their automatic dispenser and my hands were dripping with it.Aug 24 00:01
DaemonFC[m]I said, "Well, you can't be too careful.".Aug 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]I've actually never used hand sanitizer before.Aug 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]But, there's never been a pandemic like this spreading through surfaces before. It's always been all the usual stuff that people get exposed to constantly.Aug 24 00:02
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Starting to wonder if people should have to wear masks every flu season.Aug 24 00:03
DaemonFC[m]Seems like a cheap way to cut the flu in half.Aug 24 00:03
schestowitzresistance will decreaseAug 24 00:04
schestowitzbetter give them flu shotAug 24 00:04
schestowitzweakened or dead fluAug 24 00:04
schestowitzand then they can cope better, it won't pass if you defeat it fastAug 24 00:04
DaemonFC[m]If we did both, the flu would hardly be a thing.Aug 24 00:05
schestowitzdoes this one look OK? 24 00:05
schestowitzany typos?Aug 24 00:05
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Edwin Black Explains Why IBM Was the Worst and the Only One to Obstruct His Research (Into IBM’s Dark Past) | TechrightsAug 24 00:05
DaemonFC[m]Let me get my glasses.Aug 24 00:06
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: flu kills old people, mostly...Aug 24 00:06
schestowitzcheersAug 24 00:06
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, I get my shots though.Aug 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]I don't want the flu.Aug 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]It kills different demographics every time it flares up because not every flu is the sameAug 24 00:07
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The IBM punch cards were not limited to race.Aug 24 00:10
schestowitzmeasurements and suchAug 24 00:11
schestowitzbut that's not the pointAug 24 00:11
DaemonFC[m]They tracked communists and homosexuals too. Hitler looked the other way with the SA until he wanted rid of it. The homosexuality.Aug 24 00:11
schestowitzit's the nature of projects these were leased forAug 24 00:11
schestowitzalso in the US Aug 24 00:11
schestowitzprior to the Nazi Party being in powerAug 24 00:11
schestowitzand in JamaicaAug 24 00:11
DaemonFC[m]Yeah, the US government is still paranoid about Communism.Aug 24 00:11
DaemonFC[m]They have questions pertaining to Communism on the green card application.Aug 24 00:12
MinceRbut now everyone knows the only problem with "communism" was that they forgot to stick "national" in frontAug 24 00:12
DaemonFC[m]Yes, the only questions about whether you're a Nazi on a Green Card application is whether you were a member of the Nazi Party in Germany before 1945, or whether you assisted them.Aug 24 00:12
schestowitzwaitAug 24 00:13
DaemonFC[m]It's still possible that someone who was in the Hitler Youth or something could try to apply for a Green Card. Aug 24 00:14
schestowitzbut Germans don't need a Green Card Aug 24 00:14
schestowitzAFAIKAug 24 00:14
schestowitzthe password is widely used for access to the US workforceAug 24 00:14
schestowitzI don't need a US green card  afaikAug 24 00:14
schestowitzbut maybe this has changedAug 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]You would if you wanted to reside here permanently as a non-citizen. Aug 24 00:14
DaemonFC[m]Green Card holders can't vote and are eligible for Social Security and Medicare provided they have enough work credits.Aug 24 00:16
DaemonFC[m]They also cannot be denied entry into the United States.Aug 24 00:16
DaemonFC[m]But they can have their Green Card revoked for a number of very serious crimes.Aug 24 00:17
schestowitzanyway, about the text..Aug 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]I mean, they won't take it away if you got a speeding ticket, but they might if you drove drunk and they find out about it.Aug 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Depends on if you were convicted, and what for.Aug 24 00:17
DaemonFC[m]Not much text.Aug 24 00:18
DaemonFC[m]Looks okay.Aug 24 00:18
schestowitzcheersAug 24 00:19
schestowitzthis throws a spanner into their PR tacticAug 24 00:19
schestowitzwhich mirrors Microsoft's and Intel's Aug 24 00:20
schestowitzthey want us to obsess over wordsAug 24 00:20
schestowitzhelps distract from things like eugenics, war, pedophilia etc.Aug 24 00:20
DaemonFC[m]Illinois has been trying to sabotage ICE in various ways.Aug 24 00:22
DaemonFC[m]One of which is allowing an immigrant to take a plea deal, serve a punishment, and then withdraw their plea. Aug 24 00:22
DaemonFC[m]The court then accepts the withdrawal of the plea after the punishment has been carried out.Aug 24 00:23
DaemonFC[m]Federal law says that an alien is subject to removal for various offenses if they have been convicted by a state government, which includes court supervision after a plea deal, even if the state doesn't say it convicted them.Aug 24 00:23
DaemonFC[m]So the state has created a legal fiction where you plea, get punished, and then withdraw the plea. Aug 24 00:24
DaemonFC[m] 24 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Black business leader speaks out about ‘fair tax’ harms, gets axed from Pritzker eventAug 24 00:28
oiaohmschestowitz:   There is a basic playbook guns drugs and tech companies use.Aug 24 00:28
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | How to sell a massacre: NRA's playbook revealed | Australia News | Al JazeeraAug 24 00:28
DaemonFC[m]"Black Chamber of Commerce."Aug 24 00:29
DaemonFC[m]I'm still trying to figure out how I should vote on this.Aug 24 00:30
DaemonFC[m]The governor threatened either a 15% cut to health, education, and the police if it doesn't pass, or a massive tax hike across the board.Aug 24 00:31
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DaemonFC[m]That's what politicians do though. They cut police, fire fighters, and medicaid even though there's lots of bad spending to cut from, as a threat.Aug 24 00:31
DaemonFC[m]You raise the corporate income tax from 4.95% to 7.85% and a lot of those black owned businesses will collapse.Aug 24 00:33
DaemonFC[m]Walmart will either absorb it, find a way to cheat their way out of it, or start cutting employee pay and work hours.Aug 24 00:33
DaemonFC[m]They figure out a way to make everything a problem for their employees.Aug 24 00:34
DaemonFC[m]If thefts or returns are a little high this month, cut hours.Aug 24 00:34
DaemonFC[m]Corporate makes you give them $350 for risking their lives due to COVID-19, they get 9 fewer hours this week.Aug 24 00:34
DaemonFC[m]The bonuses for COVID-19 are propaganda and kabuki theater. If you don't know any better, Walmart is doling out bonuses and that's where the story ends.Aug 24 00:35
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DaemonFC[m]So, this tax proposal is really a blackmail letter.Aug 24 00:36
DaemonFC[m]"Vote to raise taxes or something even worse will happen, to you. We'll make sure of it.".Aug 24 00:36
DaemonFC[m]"By pushing for a tax increase that will directly harm Black businesses and workers, Pritzker is advocating for a policy that will further the economic inequality being protested. The governor must understand that."Aug 24 00:37
DaemonFC[m]Of course he does. Once he bowls over all of those black owned businesses in south Chicago with a new tax they can't pay, they'll have to board the place up and leave. It's more pressure on them to clear out and get out of town so that rich white people can finish taking the city.Aug 24 00:38
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DaemonFC[m] 24 00:39
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Crestwood mayor charged in red-light camera bribery schemeAug 24 00:39
DaemonFC[m]"Presta is charged with seeking bribes from camera vendor SafeSpeed and receiving an envelope with $5,000, according to the Chicago Tribune. He faces three counts of using a facility of interstate commerce to aid a bribe and official misconduct, two counts of filing false income taxes, one count of failing to file income taxes and one count of lying to the FBI and IRS."Aug 24 00:40
DaemonFC[m]:)Aug 24 00:40
DaemonFC[m]Isn't it just wonderful how some days turn out?Aug 24 00:40
DaemonFC[m]Trump has really been cracking down on Illinois corruption. Not for the right reasons.Aug 24 00:40
DaemonFC[m]He has a raging hard on for it because it was the state that propelled Obama to the White House and because it's Democratic Party corruption, mostly.Aug 24 00:41
DaemonFC[m]"Crestwood has about 10,000 residents, but between installation in 2016 until June 2019 their eight SafeSpeed cameras brought in over $13 million."Aug 24 00:42
DaemonFC[m]That's not uncommon. Suburb towns don't put them in to catch locals. They put them in on major highways that just barely fall within the city limits.Aug 24 00:42
DaemonFC[m]On Route 12, there's about a dozen red light cameras between Fox Lake and Chicago operated by several towns.Aug 24 00:42
DaemonFC[m]It's easy money and they don't ensnare their own residents too much. Plus, if you actually do live there, it's much easier to appeal and get it ripped up.Aug 24 00:43
schestowitz[00:40] <DaemonFC[m]> Trump has really been cracking down on Illinois corruption. Not for the right reasons.Aug 24 00:43
schestowitzcorruption does not crack down on corruptionAug 24 00:43
schestowitz 24 00:44
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Trump: 'I am the least racist person there is anywhere in the world' – video | US news | The GuardianAug 24 00:44
schestowitzthose are just projection tactics and lies 24 00:44
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DaemonFC[m] 24 00:46
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Multiple ‘fair tax’ proponents in Springfield implicated in federal probesAug 24 00:46
DaemonFC[m]"State Sen. Tom Cullerton, D-Villa Park, was indicted in federal court in August on 41 counts for embezzlement, conspiracy and making false statements."Aug 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m]There would be 0 counts of making false statements had he not made any statements.Aug 24 00:47
DaemonFC[m] 24 00:49
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | U.S. Attorney John Lausch and Attorney General William P. Barr Provide Update on Operation Legend | USAO-NDIL | Department of JusticeAug 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m]Are they back to add a few more zeroes to the end of their arrests figure that will later be a "misstatement"?Aug 24 00:49
DaemonFC[m] 24 00:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Rockford Man Sentenced to 12 Years in Federal Prison on Child Pornography Charges | USAO-NDIL | Department of JusticeAug 24 00:53
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: This guy did less than Rick Jones and got 12 years in prison followed by 15 years of probation.Aug 24 00:53
schestowitzyupAug 24 00:54
schestowitz Rick Jones: 24 00:54
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | No Prison for Pre-Teen Child Rape Collections When You Work for Bill Gates? | TechrightsAug 24 00:54
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: don't forget 24 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Personal Engineer of Bill Gates Illegally Possessed Firearms. Police Apparently Never Charged Him for That. | TechrightsAug 24 00:56
DaemonFC[m] 24 00:56
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Former Chicago Police Officer Sentenced to Nearly Six Years in Federal Prison for Fraudulently Obtaining Search Warrants and Obstructing Justice | USAO-NDIL | Department of JusticeAug 24 00:56
DaemonFC[m]WhoaAug 24 00:56
DaemonFC[m]"Salgado, 39, and Elizondo, 48, both of Chicago, were assigned to a gang team in the Chicago Police Department’s Tenth District.  The officers conspired to submit materially false information to state court judges to fraudulently obtain search warrants that enabled them to enter various properties and seize cash and drugs.  The officers would then steal the items and falsify police reports to conceal the thefts."Aug 24 00:57
DaemonFC[m]"A jury in October 2019 convicted Elizondo and Salgado on all counts against them, including conspiracy to commit theft, deprivation of civil rights, embezzlement, and obstruction of justice. Salgado was also convicted of making a false statement to the FBI."Aug 24 00:58
schestowitzwowAug 24 00:59
schestowitzAnd then you wonder why many people don't trust cops... whom #trump defends no matter what they do Aug 24 00:59
DaemonFC[m] 24 01:02
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Chicago Man Who Fired Gun Into Murder Victim’s Grave During Burial Service Sentenced to 15 Years in Federal Prison | USAO-NDIL | Department of JusticeAug 24 01:02
*DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < >Aug 24 01:02
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schestowitz 24 01:14
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | PleromaAug 24 01:14
schestowitz 24 01:14
MinceR:)Aug 24 01:15
DaemonFC[m]The corporate takeover of Free Software is like the SG-1 episode Foothold. Aug 24 01:25
DaemonFC[m]I head there was a follow up to that in one of the books.Aug 24 01:25
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oiaohmDaemonFC[m]: the issue is not Foothold it the fact all operations in modern world need money by some means.Aug 24 01:57
oiaohmThose giving money always want something in return.Aug 24 01:57
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: MySQL error on your site.Aug 24 03:49
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: Apparently, canned tuna sales are down.Aug 24 05:47
DaemonFC[m]The "news" quoted some executive saying "I don't think millennials even own a can opener.".Aug 24 05:47
DaemonFC[m]What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?Aug 24 05:47
DaemonFC[m]So 52.3% of the US population isn't eating at McDonalds, yet McDonalds is doing just fine.Aug 24 05:48
DaemonFC[m]Generalizations. Making it sound like an entire generation that won't grow up is a group of elite snobs.Aug 24 05:48
DaemonFC[m]At the same time, in reality, Gen X and Millennials are the first two generations to do worse than their parents did, by income.Aug 24 05:49
DaemonFC[m]Despite tending to be better educated. Aug 24 05:49
DaemonFC[m]All it led to was debt.Aug 24 05:49
DaemonFC[m]So bad that it doesn't matter what kind of job you have, they'll get it all back with interest because it's protected debt that just waits you out.Aug 24 05:50
DaemonFC[m]So I hope you're happy. It was student loans or a house. Aug 24 05:50
DaemonFC[m]I knew this wouldn't end well.Aug 24 05:50
DaemonFC[m]There's people who work 40 hours a week and they get garnished down to $7.25 an hour * 35 hours regardless of what they make.Aug 24 05:51
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | The Linux Foundation in 2020 Helps Serial GPL Violators Get Away with It | Hacker NewsAug 24 11:21
schestowitzlet'ss ee how long before it is buriedAug 24 11:21
schestowitz*seeAug 24 11:21
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schestowitzsummer really here nowAug 24 16:31
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zoobabhelloAug 24 17:03
zoobabFontana said in a FB post that Milan is not on the list for UPC, UPC being discussed in 18 days in the CouncilAug 24 17:04
zoobabthat matches the meeting for Econ ministersAug 24 17:04
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schestowitzIBM Fontana?Aug 24 17:23
schestowitzWhere does IBM stand on Upc?Aug 24 17:23
schestowitzhis name sounds Italian, but he's AmericanAug 24 17:24
schestowitzPiana might knowAug 24 17:24
schestowitzI think he's from that areaAug 24 17:24
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XRevan86 "poisoning with a “cholinesterase inhibitor”"Aug 24 18:25
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | NO TITLEAug 24 18:25
XRevan86Huh, so… like novichok.Aug 24 18:26
zoobabFontana is the governor of LombardyAug 24 18:32
zoobabnot the Fontana of RedhatAug 24 18:32
schestowitzPutin and the Mafia(TM) tried to kill Navalny. They got it wrong... on the dosage. Alex is too strong for these criminals.Aug 24 18:32
zoobabIBM supports UPC, read their submissionAug 24 18:32
schestowitzI can image...Aug 24 18:32
schestowitzso redhat does tooAug 24 18:32
schestowitzuseful crapAug 24 18:32
schestowitzuseless evenAug 24 18:32
schestowitzzoobab: can you link to me?Aug 24 18:33
schestowitzthe ibm thing?Aug 24 18:33
XRevan86schestowitz: It's doubtful that this is a legitimate murder attempt from the high up. For that the actions taken are way too inconsistent.Aug 24 18:33
XRevan86though maybe it is and they just didn't risk finishing him offAug 24 18:35
schestowitzthey operate indirectlyAug 24 18:36
schestowitzin the uk they use integrity initiatives and the likesAug 24 18:37
schestowitzthey're like gov proxiesAug 24 18:37
schestowitzin russia the mafia is said to be closely connected to the regimAug 24 18:37
schestowitzlike in KSAAug 24 18:37
schestowitzso the government does not even need to request itAug 24 18:37
schestowitzas in a lot of way the government is the mafiaAug 24 18:37
schestowitzin the US it is a corporate mafiaAug 24 18:37
schestowitzoligarchs and few companiesAug 24 18:37
schestowitzlike those vouching to wage war on iraqAug 24 18:37
XRevan86schestowitz: Yes, very closely.Aug 24 18:38
schestowitzchomsky says,Aug 24 18:39
schestowitzsomething along the lines of,Aug 24 18:39
schestowitzthe government is the shadow cast upon the people,Aug 24 18:39
schestowitzon behalf of some other people/entitiesAug 24 18:39
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The United States has had about the same results with Trump's response to the Coronavirus as Sweden, who just did nothing other than a halfassed attempt to put its nursing homes on lockdown. Aug 24 19:07
DaemonFC[m]If you look at the deaths per capita, the US is similar to Sweden. Strikingly similar.Aug 24 19:07
DaemonFC[m]They assumed that natural spread would just "wash over" the population (Trump's words) and what they have is the same as what Trump brought to the US. A slow burning nuclear meltdown that's killing thousands of Americans per day (though Sweden is smaller).Aug 24 19:08
schestowitzlet's see today's uk numbersAug 24 19:09
DaemonFC[m]Trump actively sabotaged state shutdowns and conspired to prevent them from getting medical supplies to interfere with the spread. His son-in-law told him they didn't need to do anything because in March it was "killing Democrats" and they didn't think a virus would ever pour over state lines or anything.Aug 24 19:09
schestowitzwe dined in 3 places today, half pricedAug 24 19:09
DaemonFC[m]This is the level of stupid that Kathy and Carl vote for.Aug 24 19:09
schestowitzher birthdayAug 24 19:09
schestowitz4 deaths todayAug 24 19:09
schestowitzout of 68 millionAug 24 19:09
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: many people no longer wear masksAug 24 19:15
schestowitzexcept in crowded placesAug 24 19:15
schestowitzwhere these became so normal you can't even noticedAug 24 19:15
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: in some places it's cheaper to sit and dine than to get the same thing in the groceries store, e.g. a sandwichAug 24 19:16
schestowitzone more week and it's overAug 24 19:16
MinceR 24 19:16
XRevan86Khabarovsk protesters had a new slogan this Saturday: "Putin, have tea" (or rather, drink tea, you got the idea)Aug 24 19:19
DaemonFC[m]Because of Trump's Coronavirus disaster, 100,000 American businesses and counting are closed forever and heading to the bankruptcy courts, and many of them are restaurants that can't turn a profit anymore because you can't operate like this.Aug 24 19:19
XRevan86So thoughtful.Aug 24 19:19
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DaemonFC[m]Also, the eviction moratorium was allowed to expire and Trump's fake kabuki theater executive order isn't protecting anyone because it simply commanded federal agencies to do studies while people are losing their homes.Aug 24 19:19
DaemonFC[m]So 50-60% of most states' renters and a similar percentage of homeowners face eviction as soon as the landlord or bank can motion up their case and get the Sheriff out, and I don't know what this failed fascist is going to say at the RNC that could possibly make people forget about that.Aug 24 19:20
schestowitzmaybe mnuchin can foreclosureAug 24 19:20
DaemonFC[m]His tweets are starting to sound deranged even for Trump.Aug 24 19:20
schestowitzeven illegallyAug 24 19:20
schestowitzlots of money in thatAug 24 19:20
DaemonFC[m]"The deep state at the FDA is waiting until after the election to approve anything!"Aug 24 19:21
schestowitzhe might even become a billionaire before Trump's term endsAug 24 19:21
schestowitz[19:19] <XRevan86> Khabarovsk protesters had a new slogan this Saturday: "Putin, have tea" (or rather, drink tea, you got the idea)Aug 24 19:22
schestowitzTrump: putin, have some TAug 24 19:22
DaemonFC[m]Even many Republicans in the Fed have said the US needs to go on a full lockdown for 6 weeks where nobody leaves their home and the army is bringing food.Aug 24 19:24
DaemonFC[m]Neil Kashkari said it would be far less damaging than limping along for years like this.Aug 24 19:24
DaemonFC[m](spelling?)Aug 24 19:24
DaemonFC[m]The only way New York got it under control was by boarding everything up.Aug 24 19:25
DaemonFC[m]Like you'd expect, their state economy is in the toilet and down in Georgia and many parts of the south, they do nothing while it gets worse than it ever did in New York City.Aug 24 19:25
schestowitzhurricane season...Aug 24 19:28
schestowitzshould be... interestingAug 24 19:28
DaemonFC[m]Offering Bernie Sanders a Cabinet position might be an idea.Aug 24 19:28
DaemonFC[m]Put him in charge of Health and Human Services and let him write some Medicare and Medicaid and VA regulations.Aug 24 19:28
DaemonFC[m]Unfortunately, I think Vermont has a Republican governor.Aug 24 19:29
schestowitznational debt up again 24 19:29
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | United States Government Debt | 1942-2020 Data | 2021-2022 Forecast | HistoricalAug 24 19:29
schestowitzno signs of paying anything back in agesAug 24 19:29
schestowitzthe rich don't pay their taxesAug 24 19:29
schestowitztoo busy 'creating jobs'Aug 24 19:29
DaemonFC[m]So it would actually be a better idea to have Sanders resign and join the Biden campaign now.Aug 24 19:29
schestowitzfor themselvesAug 24 19:29
DaemonFC[m]That way there's no Republican Senator who gets his unexpired term later on.Aug 24 19:29
schestowitzSanders is too left for the GOPBiden campaignAug 24 19:29
schestowitz"Government Debt in the United States increased to 26524953 USD Million in July from 26477241 USD Million in June of 2020."Aug 24 19:30
DaemonFC[m]He already did what he did for Hillary Clinton, which is bend the knee at the convention, but it didn't work for Clinton.Aug 24 19:30
schestowitz"Aug 24 19:30
schestowitzUnited States Government Last Previous Highest Lowest Unit Aug 24 19:30
schestowitzGovernment Debt to GDP 106.90 105.50 118.90 31.80 percentAug 24 19:30
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schestowitzgnAug 24 19:31
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DaemonFC[m]Maybe it wouldn't work for Biden, except that many people see that Trump could win a second term and they know they wouldn't just be sending a message to Biden with a protest vote.Aug 24 19:31
DaemonFC[m]The polling so far shows that I'm probably right.Aug 24 19:31
DaemonFC[m]There's not a lot of rogue Sanders supporters this time who absolutely won't vote for anyone else.Aug 24 19:31
DaemonFC[m]I did the Sanders and then Clinton thing in the 2016 cycle.Aug 24 19:32
DaemonFC[m]I voted in the Indiana primary for Sanders because I lived there at the time and then in the Illinois general election for Clinton.Aug 24 19:32
DaemonFC[m]Sanders won the Indiana Democratic Primary and Clinton won the general election in Illinois.Aug 24 19:33
DaemonFC[m]So I voted for the winner both times, and also the loser both times.Aug 24 19:33
DaemonFC[m]Then we got TrumpAug 24 19:33
DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: The prosecutor is on the run, really.Aug 24 19:35
DaemonFC[m]My defense attorney's partner came up with a package of proposed police reforms and the prosecutor is like "Oh yeah, me too.".Aug 24 19:36
DaemonFC[m]I'm like "Well, you've been in office for four years, you've done none of that, and what you did do is drop a hate crime charge against a Donald Trump supporter in Lake County who chased down a Latino man with an icepick and told him to "Get the #### out of our country." and made a deal to drop it to a misdemeanor, after telling the news there was no place for hate crimes in Lake County.".Aug 24 19:37
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Better regulation portalAug 24 20:10
zoobabthis is IBM submissionAug 24 20:10
zoobabno mention of UPC in there, mentioning AI patents thoughAug 24 20:10
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - HumansAug 24 20:53
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Btrfs Coming to Fedora 33 - Fedora MagazineAug 24 21:47
DaemonFC[m]I strongly agree with that particular decision.Aug 24 21:47
DaemonFC[m]The Kubuntu installer doesn't support ZFS anyway.Aug 24 21:53
DaemonFC[m]It surprised me since all the low level stuff for that is in Ubuntu.Aug 24 21:54
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-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Happy Birthday, Windows 95Aug 24 22:03
XRevan86 fixed it for youAug 24 22:03
-TechrightsBot-tr/ | Happy Birthday, Windows 95Aug 24 22:03
DaemonFC[m]I liked the user interface that Windows 95 introduced. 98 made no sense at all because of the Active Desktop.Aug 24 22:03
DaemonFC[m]I removed the 98 shell as part of removing IE and other garbage.Aug 24 22:04
XRevan86IceWM also liked itAug 24 22:05
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psydreadHappy Crashday, Windows 95Aug 24 22:23
psydreadit killed itself within 3 hours of me unpacking my brandnew computerAug 24 22:24
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