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| DaemonFC[m] | The Biden Administration needs to reverse that immediately by working with the Russian government to agree to restore the terms of the treaties, if possible. | Nov 24 00:00 |
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| MinceR | i doubt that will ever work | Nov 24 00:00 |
| MinceR | who'd be stupid enough to trust putler to not violate nuclear treaties after he's violated the Budapest Memorandum? | Nov 24 00:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | At least we avoided Trump's crackpot second term ideas, like going back to nuking ourselves to make sure they work. :) | Nov 24 00:01 |
| schestowitz | Ariadne: pleroma mentioned in http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/144695 | Nov 24 00:01 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | On Safety Razors and Technology | Tux Machines | Nov 24 00:01 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: ICBMs are a ridiculous idea that are part of an outdated defense posture. | Nov 24 00:02 |
| MinceR | what's the replacement? | Nov 24 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like battleships in a modern Navy, where they cost a ton and don't actually serve a purpose. | Nov 24 00:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | SLBMs. | Nov 24 00:03 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: subs | Nov 24 00:03 |
| MinceR | can the russian empire afford those? | Nov 24 00:03 |
| schestowitz | seems DaemonFC[m] beat me to it | Nov 24 00:03 |
| schestowitz | I didn't know this acronym | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submarine-launched_ballistic_missile | Nov 24 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Submarine-launched ballistic missile - Wikipedia | Nov 24 00:04 | |
| schestowitz | those are very simplea | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | and some subs can enrich and make those in-house | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | so they're 'self-sufficient' at killing lots of people | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | by setting off nuclear reactions | Nov 24 00:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, it's a nasty surprise that you can't pull off a first strike against. | Nov 24 00:04 |
| schestowitz | takes only seconds from trigger to impact | Nov 24 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They just pull up, fire them, and that's it, and you don't need this ridiculous anti-ballistic missile stuff because it's already too late. | Nov 24 00:05 |
| schestowitz | I think it's like 10 minutes for the large ballistic ones | Nov 24 00:05 |
| schestowitz | for them to go up, accelerate, then down | Nov 24 00:05 |
| schestowitz | they're incredibly fast only at their last phase | Nov 24 00:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, 10 minute launch cycle, give or take. | Nov 24 00:05 |
| schestowitz | like 17000km/hr | Nov 24 00:06 |
| schestowitz | iirc | Nov 24 00:06 |
| schestowitz | all that 'missle defense system' is crackpot shit | Nov 24 00:06 |
| schestowitz | companies that offer is are grifting | Nov 24 00:06 |
| schestowitz | you can overwhelm them with fakes | Nov 24 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Speaking of crockpot..... | Nov 24 00:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Tonight I'm making bison chili. | Nov 24 00:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: They have the "I was just in the middle of a lovely brunch." GIF on the Samsung keyboard from SG-1. | Nov 24 00:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ba'al: "IMPUDENCE!" O'Neill: "No....tuna.". | Nov 24 00:08 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 24 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Then there was the minor spat with China on Bush's way out. | Nov 24 00:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wherein we competed with each other in the "Blowing up our own satellites with $3 million missiles" department. | Nov 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But, nothing of the sort of international damage Trump has done. | Nov 24 00:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Biden wants to stimulate the economy, he's going to have to untangle this tariff mess at this point. | Nov 24 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That was already causing the economy to sputter even before the collapse-o-virus. | Nov 24 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would provide immediate relief across the board. | Nov 24 00:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, no guarantee it would help. | Nov 24 00:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now that retailers have gotten people used to paying more, they could just decide to pocket it. | Nov 24 00:12 |
| superkuh | The only thing Trump did right was being hard on China. The problem was he alienated the rest of asia at the same time. | Nov 24 00:12 |
| schestowitz | "choiyna" | Nov 24 00:13 |
| MinceR | jyna | Nov 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 24 00:13 |
| schestowitz | nice name... for a girl | Nov 24 00:14 |
| MinceR | if twitler was so hard on "jyna", why did he have products made there? | Nov 24 00:15 |
| schestowitz | but seeing how cheeto speaks of ivanka, he's say "fuck jyna" | Nov 24 00:15 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: also Mexico | Nov 24 00:15 |
| schestowitz | China and Mexico | Nov 24 00:15 |
| schestowitz | and still, with low-cost labour, 6 bankrupcies | Nov 24 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | superkuh: also he resolved a decades old conflict between Serbia and Kosovo | Nov 24 00:15 |
| CrystalMath | we still have a lake Trump, named after him | Nov 24 00:16 |
| schestowitz | and unlicensed maids working for him | Nov 24 00:16 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: is that what he calls the piss puddle at the hotel room? | Nov 24 00:16 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: no it's an actual lake in my country | Nov 24 00:16 |
| schestowitz | ok, when you are done slashing | Nov 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz | make sure to deflate your garden pool | Nov 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz | it's no lake | Nov 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz | *splashing | Nov 24 00:17 |
| CrystalMath | what the heck are you talking about? | Nov 24 00:17 |
| schestowitz | there are places called after many horrible people | Nov 24 00:18 |
| schestowitz | inc. stalin and lenin in russia | Nov 24 00:18 |
| schestowitz | doesn't mean jack | Nov 24 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | it has an area of 12 square kilometers | Nov 24 00:18 |
| CrystalMath | i suppose it's not that big | Nov 24 00:19 |
| CrystalMath | but still | Nov 24 00:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Comments sections are finally cleared up. Most of the trolls are gone. | Nov 24 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Someone called Trump the $750 Man though which was mildly amusing. | Nov 24 00:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wonder how that guy on WISH-TV's Facebook page that was posting GIFs of a "Trump Train" to drown out intelligible conversation is doing. | Nov 24 00:25 |
| schestowitz | Trump Train Wreck | Nov 24 00:30 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: it's a political stunt https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/kosovo-serbia-donald-trump-deal-lake-ujamn-b597152.html | Nov 24 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.independent.co.uk | Kosovo and Serbia could name lake after Trump | The Independent | Nov 24 00:31 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Do I know any good lawyers? No. But I do know Rudy Giuliani." -Mr. Garrison as Trump on South Park | Nov 24 00:31 |
| schestowitz | te | Nov 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz | they can undo this stupidity | Nov 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz | they could rename it lake COVID | Nov 24 00:32 |
| schestowitz | because it's synonymous with the Trump regime now | Nov 24 00:32 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: Trump has done a lot to help us | Nov 24 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: if the US election happened here in serbia, Trump would win with a landslide | Nov 24 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | remember what Biden said about us? | Nov 24 00:33 |
| CrystalMath | https://www.anti-empire.com/joe-biden-1993-serbs-are-illiterate-degenerates/ | Nov 24 00:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Joe Biden, 1993: “Serbs Are Illiterate Degenerates” – Anti-Empire | Nov 24 00:34 | |
| CrystalMath | remember what happened when Joe Biden visited? there were protests | Nov 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz | you are a covid denier | Nov 24 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | i'm not a covid denier | Nov 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz | you don't help your national image | Nov 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz | you are | Nov 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz | minimiser | Nov 24 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | no, i'm just saying it like it is | Nov 24 00:34 |
| schestowitz | you deny the severity of it | Nov 24 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | i rounded UP the number of deaths | Nov 24 00:34 |
| CrystalMath | it's actually only 1.4 million or something | Nov 24 00:35 |
| schestowitz | or worse, you advocate mass death | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | this is not massive | Nov 24 00:35 |
| schestowitz | as if you actual goal is to get many people killed | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | there's 7.7 billion people | Nov 24 00:35 |
| schestowitz | it's a very dangerous idealogy | Nov 24 00:35 |
| schestowitz | and you read unabomber screeds | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | like i said, covid cannot be the thing that will help us with our population problem | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | it simply has no capacity | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | to any degree | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | so the whole point is moot | Nov 24 00:35 |
| schestowitz | overpopulation is a thing and that can be tackled by reduction in birth rates, voluntarily | Nov 24 00:35 |
| CrystalMath | absolutely, that's what i advocate | Nov 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz | my wife and I chose a long time ago to not reproduce | Nov 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz | and I know many couples that decided the same | Nov 24 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | a voluntary reduction of birth rate | Nov 24 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | i decided to not have children, though i'm not a couple | Nov 24 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | but my decision is final | Nov 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz | covid is agony and pain | Nov 24 00:36 |
| schestowitz | you separate people from friends and family for good | Nov 24 00:36 |
| CrystalMath | what do you mean? | Nov 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz | and if that's not painting Serbs as cruel... | Nov 24 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | you mean by people dying? | Nov 24 00:37 |
| CrystalMath | or lockdown crap? | Nov 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz | https://i.imgflip.com/1gnf9n.jpg | Nov 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz | "remove kebab" song | Nov 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz | like a celebration of genocide | Nov 24 00:37 |
| schestowitz | and comparing people to cooked lamb | Nov 24 00:38 |
| CrystalMath | what? | Nov 24 00:38 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remove_Kebab | Nov 24 00:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Remove Kebab - Wikipedia | Nov 24 00:38 | |
| schestowitz | "Remove Kebab is a phrase that originated in the online community surrounding a Serb nationalist and anti-Muslim propaganda music video[1] from the Yugoslav Wars.[2][3][4][5] The phrase has spread globally amongst Neo-Nazi groups and the alt-right as a meme which references and advocates for the ethnic cleansing of Muslims.[2][3][6] " | Nov 24 00:38 |
| schestowitz | Maybe Biden saw shit like this | Nov 24 00:38 |
| CrystalMath | https://genius.com/Zeljko-grmusa-karadzic-lead-your-serbs-serbia-strong-lyrics | Nov 24 00:39 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Željko Grmuša – Karadžić, Lead Your Serbs / Serbia Strong Lyrics | Genius Lyrics | Nov 24 00:39 | |
| CrystalMath | i can translate these lyrics to you | Nov 24 00:39 |
| CrystalMath | there's no talk of kebabs | Nov 24 00:39 |
| CrystalMath | there's a stanza comparing serbian separatists to wolves | Nov 24 00:40 |
| CrystalMath | it's meant in a positive light of course as this song was in favor of krajina separating from croatia | Nov 24 00:40 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svetolik_Dragačevac | Nov 24 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Svetolik Dragačevac - Wikipedia | Nov 24 00:41 | |
| schestowitz | "Dragačevac was arrested by the Gestapo and taken to Belgrade, where he was interrogated. During his interrogation, Dragačevac attributed his authorship of the letter to Serbian nationalist zeal and excessive alcohol consumption" | Nov 24 00:41 |
| CrystalMath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Storm | Nov 24 00:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Operation Storm - Wikipedia | Nov 24 00:41 | |
| CrystalMath | this is what they were talking about defending from | Nov 24 00:42 |
| CrystalMath | 200,000 refugees displaced | Nov 24 00:42 |
| schestowitz | Your position on things reaffirms nazi ideology | Nov 24 00:47 |
| schestowitz | and your lack or reply is telling | Nov 24 00:52 |
| CrystalMath | reply to what? | Nov 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | "Serbia is the only country in which the Jewish question and the Gypsy question has been solved." | Nov 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | Dwork, Debórah; Robert Jan Pelt; Robert Jan Van Pelt (2003), Holocaust: a history, New York, N.Y.: W. W. Norton & Company, p. 184, ISBN 0-393-32524-5 | Nov 24 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | what!? | Nov 24 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | we have lots of jewish people and even more gypsies | Nov 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | not the point | Nov 24 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | Croatia sided with the nazis | Nov 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | you advocate getting rid of people | Nov 24 00:55 |
| schestowitz | and then blame "nature" | Nov 24 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | and if you check their demographics | Nov 24 00:55 |
| CrystalMath | i don't advocate getting rid of certain people | Nov 24 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | i believe that the entire human race, with its technology, is a threat to the planet | Nov 24 00:56 |
| schestowitz | you called yourself antihumanist | Nov 24 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | that's not a popular opinion in serbia | Nov 24 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | in fact, it would be considered far-left here | Nov 24 00:56 |
| schestowitz | the nazis started by killing the "Weak" | Nov 24 00:56 |
| schestowitz | disabled people and stuff | Nov 24 00:56 |
| schestowitz | Trumpland did the same | Nov 24 00:56 |
| CrystalMath | most people in serbia believe that god gave humans the right to rule over all the other creatures | Nov 24 00:57 |
| schestowitz | what you believe it is a threat to human beings around you | Nov 24 00:57 |
| schestowitz | you advocate spreading covid-19 | Nov 24 00:57 |
| CrystalMath | and that this god created everyone in 7 days | Nov 24 00:57 |
| CrystalMath | spreading covid-19 is absolutely not going to lead to even the slightest dent in the population | Nov 24 00:57 |
| schestowitz | that's less harmful than your beliefs | Nov 24 00:57 |
| CrystalMath | nor do i advocate it really | Nov 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump's presidency was so bad that not only did he cost 12 million people whatever health insurance they had leading up to this, but you couldn't find a goddamned bottle of hand sanitizer for almost 5 months in. | Nov 24 00:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | We saw every grocery store in America get totally wiped clean for the first time in my life. | Nov 24 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: maybe from a human-centric viewpoint | Nov 24 00:58 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: clean your hands in a lake Trump | Nov 24 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i advocate for getting rid of the human-centric viewpoint | Nov 24 00:58 |
| CrystalMath | the world does not revolve around us | Nov 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, I heard about that. | Nov 24 00:58 |
| superkuh | And more important than hand sanitizer, 11 months in there's still not N95 mask production enough for even a fragment of the population. | Nov 24 00:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom stashed like 4 of them. | Nov 24 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm not going to be the one to say anything about that. | Nov 24 00:59 |
| MinceR | "republicans" believe those absurd things too | Nov 24 00:59 |
| superkuh | I bought 200 in 2006. | Nov 24 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | i know, i argue with them MinceR | Nov 24 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | i dislike the human-centric viewpoint | Nov 24 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | you have it too, though, just a different variant | Nov 24 00:59 |
| superkuh | I'm starting to run low now though. | Nov 24 00:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's everywhere in the facility because some of the employees are a bunch of people who calling them a fucking dumb piece of shit would be high praise. | Nov 24 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | humans will save the planet from the sun" | Nov 24 00:59 |
| CrystalMath | you refuse to let logic run its course to the final conclusion... | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | if we evolved here through processes which are natural and start with an accident | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | there is NO purpose to our lives | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | and there is in fact no purpose to our lives | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | nihilism wins | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | as long as you let logic do its thing | Nov 24 01:00 |
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| MinceR | CrystalMath: no, i don't have it | Nov 24 01:00 |
| MinceR | and no, i don't think humans will do it | Nov 24 01:00 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: so you agree that there is no purpose to life? | Nov 24 01:01 |
| MinceR | humans believe themselves to be oh so intelligent and oh so civilized | Nov 24 01:01 |
| MinceR | and if it was true, they could and would do it | Nov 24 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | oh | Nov 24 01:01 |
| MinceR | but they aren't, and instead they'll kill themselves off and a lot of other lifeforms too, and maybe even sterilize the planet | Nov 24 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | then i was wrong about you | Nov 24 01:01 |
| MinceR | intelligent beings would be the only chance for this biosphere to live forever, and apparently humans are not it | Nov 24 01:01 |
| CrystalMath | but, i don't hate life, in all its cruelty | Nov 24 01:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Walmart got so many Thanksgiving turkeys that they're giving them away with ibotta. | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | i accept life (and therefore death) WITH all its cruelty | Nov 24 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It seems like "supplies limited" must be like, all of them. | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | even though i sometimes back down on that | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | and claim to be an efilist | Nov 24 01:02 |
| MinceR | nihilism is not that there is no purpose to our lives, but that everyone gets to decide the purpose of their own life | Nov 24 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's been ongoing for like 10 days now and the offer is still there. | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | but then bounce back | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: no, that's relativism | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: nihilism believes in an objective nothing | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | but relativism is okay too | Nov 24 01:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: With God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly. ;) | Nov 24 01:02 |
| CrystalMath | my opinion on non-human life changes from the time to time | Nov 24 01:03 |
| CrystalMath | according to my mood | Nov 24 01:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I saw that on Youtube and couldn't stop laughing. | Nov 24 01:03 |
| schestowitz | turkey doesn't give a flying f* | Nov 24 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The one where he drops a bunch of live turkeys out of a plane and they were landing everywhere and the radio station got a bunch of complaints. | Nov 24 01:04 |
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| MinceR | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existential_nihilism | Nov 24 01:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Existential nihilism - Wikipedia | Nov 24 01:04 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who is the British ambassador anyway? | Nov 24 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | turkeys can fly to a minimal extent | Nov 24 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | but not for long and not high | Nov 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | well, those turkeys did fly | Nov 24 01:04 |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: sounds like pricks even worse than the slaughterers | Nov 24 01:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I always thought it was Mr. Bean. | Nov 24 01:04 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: indeed | Nov 24 01:04 |
| MinceR | they were on board a flying plane, after all | Nov 24 01:04 |
| vZS1 | Gobble gobble. Erdogan. Gobble gobble | Nov 24 01:05 |
| schestowitz | like the woman killed in a "hold your piss" contest | Nov 24 01:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "DaemonFC: sounds like pricks eve"> They didn't really do it, it was a skit. | Nov 24 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: huh? | Nov 24 01:05 |
| schestowitz | or the idiots who caused a nurse to commit suicide | Nov 24 01:05 |
| schestowitz | by shaming her | Nov 24 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | in mexico some people beat up a nurse in a bus | Nov 24 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | this year | Nov 24 01:05 |
| CrystalMath | because of covid supposedly | Nov 24 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I heard about the hold your piss woman. | Nov 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | mexico is cruel, the drug cartels behead people | Nov 24 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: I really like Black Mirror. | Nov 24 01:06 |
| vZS1 | They do a lot worse than beheading | Nov 24 01:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The episode Shut Up and Dance was my favorite until USS Callister. | Nov 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: yes, better not talk of the details | Nov 24 01:06 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: beheading is too fast to count as torture | Nov 24 01:07 |
| vZS1 | Indeed | Nov 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | but it's deterrence/warning to others | Nov 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | like people hanging off cranes | Nov 24 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Teenager was downloading porn on his laptop and got a virus and then he was being blackmailed to do a bunch of illegal shit by some internet troll. | Nov 24 01:07 |
| schestowitz | more so headless... or just a bunch of heads | Nov 24 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who turned out to rat on him anyway after getting him involved in a bunch of stuff that was worse, and it turned out it was CP and the first person the troll showed was his mom. | Nov 24 01:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Controversial episode for some reason. | Nov 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | your ex John? | Nov 24 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's a lesson in each one of those episodes. | Nov 24 01:08 |
| MinceR | 24 020701 < schestowitz> vZS1: beheading is too fast to count as torture | Nov 24 01:08 |
| MinceR | it could be done slowly | Nov 24 01:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you don't want compromising material out there, don't do nasty/illegal shit. | Nov 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: that's what they do | Nov 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | but not just the head | Nov 24 01:08 |
| schestowitz | fingers, skin... | Nov 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, after the CP, the troll got him to rob a bank and then do a bunch of other stuff leading up to killing a man while a drone recorded. | Nov 24 01:09 |
| schestowitz | there's a religion that celebrates a person nailed to a cross and left hanging with thorns in the head | Nov 24 01:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, but at the time I joked with John "That's why they shouldn't use Windows.". | Nov 24 01:09 |
| vZS1 | Don't forget being speared to death | Nov 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | vZS1: I wonder if Trump's defeat sort of blew the last fuse in my dad's head or something. | Nov 24 01:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He kept talking about Trump being on a mission from God. | Nov 24 01:10 |
| CrystalMath | oh | Nov 24 01:11 |
| CrystalMath | like the blues brothers | Nov 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then after he lost the election he said "Oh, he'll reverse all this fraud and keep going!". | Nov 24 01:11 |
| MinceR | "Spirit of the One God avenge me!" | Nov 24 01:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can't even imagine a situation where, under the rules in place for our elections, he simply lost the election because enough people weren't buying it anymore. | Nov 24 01:11 |
| vZS1 | Can't really do much about people with that level of faith. It's called faith for a reason. | Nov 24 01:12 |
| CrystalMath | Trump not being a savior doesn't mean one is not needed | Nov 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: in some countries people re-enact it on themselves | Nov 24 01:12 |
| superkuh | I think more people are buying it than ever. It's just people that never bought it who used to vote third party voted for "not Trump". | Nov 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz | to make a point or prove their loyalty | Nov 24 01:12 |
| schestowitz | or something | Nov 24 01:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The fact that both candidates lured so many people out who normally don't vote was what threw me. | Nov 24 01:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How there were 7 million more people than last time duped by this asshole. | Nov 24 01:13 |
| schestowitz | "election fraud" | Nov 24 01:13 |
| CrystalMath | i was probably most enthusiastic about Trump in 2017 | Nov 24 01:13 |
| CrystalMath | it kinda went down from that point, but my fear of the others grew | Nov 24 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | i'm terrified of what Biden could do to the world | Nov 24 01:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the end though, I think Biden was a weak candidate and so many people had just had enough of Trump that he managed to turn out more marginally attached voters. | Nov 24 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | wars, more surveillance | Nov 24 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | more censorship | Nov 24 01:14 |
| superkuh | Yes. Being not an asshole lets you get away with a lot. | Nov 24 01:14 |
| CrystalMath | it's scary | Nov 24 01:14 |
| superkuh | As a president. | Nov 24 01:14 |
| superkuh | Biden was always buddy/buddy with the MPAA/RIAA. | Nov 24 01:15 |
| superkuh | So in terms of software freedoms, yikes. | Nov 24 01:15 |
| CrystalMath | it really is terrifying | Nov 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but divided government. | Nov 24 01:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I still doubt we're going to get a SOPA with the incoming Congress. | Nov 24 01:15 |
| CrystalMath | and he'll kill Assange for exposing american crimes, he'll probably kill Chelsea Manning too | Nov 24 01:15 |
| superkuh | Right. Hopefully nothing gets done. That's been my hope since Bush. | Nov 24 01:15 |
| vZS1 | I think they're not divided about patenting everything under the sun | Nov 24 01:15 |
| superkuh | DaemonFC[m], feds are feds are feds. | Nov 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I think the executive actions are coming. | Nov 24 01:16 |
| superkuh | The war on general purpose computation is bipartisan. | Nov 24 01:16 |
| schestowitz | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territory_of_the_Military_Commander_in_Serbia#/media/File:German_massacre_in_Skela_01.jpg | Nov 24 01:16 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia - Wikipedia | Nov 24 01:16 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | But you can't really create new copyright law with those. | Nov 24 01:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd encourage everyone to get a VPN, but you needed one under Trump more than ever too. | Nov 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ron Paul accidentally slipped up with SOPA. | Nov 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He called it the Stop Online Privacy Act. | Nov 24 01:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Which is what it was there to do, of course. | Nov 24 01:17 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 24 01:17 |
| CrystalMath | well he's right | Nov 24 01:17 |
| schestowitz | they dropped the sopa at the end | Nov 24 01:18 |
| MinceR | who bent over for it though? | Nov 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, because they were far too hamfisted with it. | Nov 24 01:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Realized that there would be consequences. | Nov 24 01:18 |
| vZS1 | Software I'm not too worried about. People can always smuggle software about | Nov 24 01:18 |
| vZS1 | What worries me is hardware | Nov 24 01:18 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: that was some truly dark times, but the occupation wasn't popular in serbia; we had the strongest resistance movements in europe | Nov 24 01:18 |
| MinceR | only if they have general purpose computers | Nov 24 01:19 |
| schestowitz | I don't even want to picture that >> [01:18] <MinceR> who bent over for it though? | Nov 24 01:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 24 01:19 |
| vZS1 | Yeah | Nov 24 01:19 |
| vZS1 | That's the main worry | Nov 24 01:19 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: lots and lots of serbs were executed for hiding jews and gypsies | Nov 24 01:19 |
| superkuh | Right. Lots of "trusted computing" and crap coming in next generation's hardware. | Nov 24 01:19 |
| MinceR | "pluton" | Nov 24 01:19 |
| superkuh | CPU that only work in the first mobo they're put in. | Nov 24 01:19 |
| vZS1 | Right to repair and stuff is getting decent media coverage | Nov 24 01:21 |
| vZS1 | The heat can't stop | Nov 24 01:21 |
| schestowitz | not enough. | Nov 24 01:21 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2019/08/04/righttorepair/ | Nov 24 01:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft’s War on the Right to Repair (One’s Own Computers) Makes Lundgren an ‘Enemy’ to Microsoft | Techrights | Nov 24 01:21 | |
| vZS1 | Otherwise we're all screwed | Nov 24 01:21 |
| CrystalMath | vZS1: well there's always the TALOS workstation | Nov 24 01:22 |
| CrystalMath | and librebot | Nov 24 01:22 |
| CrystalMath | *libreboot | Nov 24 01:22 |
| CrystalMath | and used old hardware | Nov 24 01:22 |
| vZS1 | But if they go too far China or some other country will step in to fill the void | Nov 24 01:22 |
| CrystalMath | which void? | Nov 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bye Don Part 4: The part where he did, in fact, lose Rush Limbaugh and Tucker Carlson. | Nov 24 01:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.newsweek.com/rush-limbaugh-criticizes-trump-campaign-hyping-blockbuster-voter-fraud-evidence-nothing-1549674 | Nov 24 01:23 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 24 01:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Rush Limbaugh Criticizes Trump Campaign for Hyping Up 'Blockbuster' Voter Fraud Evidence: 'Nothing Happened… Not Good' | Nov 24 01:23 | |
| vZS1 | There's still healthy demand for generic computer hardware | Nov 24 01:25 |
| CrystalMath | right | Nov 24 01:25 |
| CrystalMath | but i think we need to go fully open | Nov 24 01:25 |
| vZS1 | Hopefully these new products go the way Windows mobile did | Nov 24 01:25 |
| MinceR | replaced by something even worse? | Nov 24 01:25 |
| psydroid | go as far as designing and manufacturing our own hardware | Nov 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-americans-support-trump-running-2024-his-campaign-lawsuits-unravel-poll-1549677 | Nov 24 01:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.newsweek.com | Nearly Half of Americans Support Trump Running in 2024 As His Campaign Lawsuits Unravel: Poll | Nov 24 01:27 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but they're assuming room temperature quickly now with the virus hoax. | Nov 24 01:27 |
| MinceR | we'll need chip fabs at home for that | Nov 24 01:27 |
| psydroid | hopefully that will become a possibility soon | Nov 24 01:27 |
| MinceR | yeah | Nov 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "According to the U.S. Constitution, a president cannot serve any more than two terms of four years each. However, there is nothing in the constitution prohibiting an individual from serving non-consecutive terms as president. Former President Grover Cleveland served twice non-consecutively as the 22nd and 24th president, from 1885-1889 and 1893-1897." | Nov 24 01:27 |
| schestowitz | very big home | Nov 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, but that amendment didn't exist at the time. | Nov 24 01:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Grover Cleveland could have served as many terms as he was elected to. | Nov 24 01:28 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: correct, it seems that lots of people don't kow about the 22nd amendment | Nov 24 01:28 |
| CrystalMath | neither did i | Nov 24 01:28 |
| CrystalMath | but then again i'm not an american so i'm forgiven for that | Nov 24 01:28 |
| vZS1 | Companies won't stop producing generic hardware. There's too many markets around | Nov 24 01:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It was passed to prevent another FDR. | Nov 24 01:28 |
| vZS1 | Gamers, graphic designers, etc. | Nov 24 01:29 |
| vZS1 | Hobbyist market | Nov 24 01:29 |
| MinceR | gamers are being pushed to consoles and online streaming services like stadia | Nov 24 01:29 |
| MinceR | many graphic designers already adopted crApple's bullshit | Nov 24 01:29 |
| vZS1 | Steam us still thriving | Nov 24 01:29 |
| vZS1 | is* | Nov 24 01:30 |
| MinceR | and crapOS is already making it difficult to run applications that come from outside crApple's walled garden | Nov 24 01:30 |
| vZS1 | Krita, Gimp, Blender, etc all have good market share | Nov 24 01:30 |
| psydroid | Steam is tied to x86 and proprietary, which is enough reason for me to avoid it | Nov 24 01:30 |
| MinceR | it's also a DRM platform | Nov 24 01:30 |
| schestowitz | everything rented | Nov 24 01:30 |
| schestowitz | nothing owned | Nov 24 01:30 |
| schestowitz | clown, drm... | Nov 24 01:31 |
| psydroid | I just wanted to say that too | Nov 24 01:31 |
| schestowitz | streaming is a clown form | Nov 24 01:31 |
| MinceR | and yes, technically the games you "own" on steam are actually just indefinite subscriptions | Nov 24 01:31 |
| schestowitz | subscription basically | Nov 24 01:31 |
| MinceR | that they can end at any time | Nov 24 01:31 |
| schestowitz | lots of patents on this vision of computing in the days of Vista/XP | Nov 24 01:31 |
| vZS1 | Was talking more wrt hardware | Nov 24 01:31 |
| schestowitz | how to squeeze people for money without selling them 'updates' | Nov 24 01:31 |
| vZS1 | There is actually a growing number of DRM-free games on steam | Nov 24 01:32 |
| schestowitz | some companies realise that they pay as much as a person's annual salary for some clown service | Nov 24 01:32 |
| schestowitz | and to get a server of their own would cost vastly less | Nov 24 01:32 |
| MinceR | GOG is better | Nov 24 01:32 |
| schestowitz | and they can hire one full-time staff to manage it for the same cost as 'clown' | Nov 24 01:33 |
| MinceR | GOG is actually DRM-free | Nov 24 01:33 |
| vZS1 | But that doesn't really mean much. Steam is still a DRM platform | Nov 24 01:33 |
| MinceR | and it works without their launcher | Nov 24 01:33 |
| schestowitz | the turf changed | Nov 24 01:33 |
| schestowitz | and fast | Nov 24 01:33 |
| schestowitz | software always changes fast | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | compared to things like chemistry | Nov 24 01:34 |
| vZS1 | You can play cracked versions of games | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | now if linux wins | Nov 24 01:34 |
| vZS1 | On custom servers | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | whatever "linux" even means | Nov 24 01:34 |
| vZS1 | This has been a thing since the dawn of online gaming | Nov 24 01:34 |
| MinceR | for linux to win, it would have to free itself from the grip of microshit and SJWs | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | we end up with some weird monsters.... clown, 'secure boot', proprietary blobs with "hubs" | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | like flathub | Nov 24 01:34 |
| schestowitz | and censorship at many levels | Nov 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | and it would have to get rid of the CoC | Nov 24 01:35 |
| schestowitz | no need, MinceR | Nov 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | also, it would have to stop making concessions to microshit and dehomag | Nov 24 01:35 |
| schestowitz | just get a vasectomy | Nov 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 24 01:35 |
| vZS1 | Linux is already embraced by Microsoft. That's not going to change any time soon. | Nov 24 01:35 |
| schestowitz | they always embrace what they attack | Nov 24 01:35 |
| MinceR | if linux's developers wanted linux to survive, they could fork it | Nov 24 01:36 |
| vZS1 | I didn't mean it in a nice way | Nov 24 01:36 |
| schestowitz | neither did the python snake | Nov 24 01:36 |
| schestowitz | and speaking of which | Nov 24 01:36 |
| MinceR | and maybe adopt GPLv3 for new additions | Nov 24 01:36 |
| schestowitz | they embraced python | Nov 24 01:36 |
| vZS1 | Microsoft is buying the market out | Nov 24 01:37 |
| CrystalMath | python, CoC, .... what is it with these people and all the phallic symbols | Nov 24 01:37 |
| vZS1 | That's their MO | Nov 24 01:37 |
| vZS1 | We shouldn't be surprised | Nov 24 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do GoG games run in the Linux container on Chrome OS? | Nov 24 01:37 |
| schestowitz | now there's a CONSORTIUM for banning words | Nov 24 01:37 |
| schestowitz | Microsoft/VMWare and friends | Nov 24 01:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That would be trippy. A DOS emulator in a Debian emulator on Chrome OS. | Nov 24 01:37 |
| schestowitz | "community" = rude | Nov 24 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although I did build snes9x for Mandy in there and it seems to run Super Nintendo ROMs okay. | Nov 24 01:38 |
| schestowitz | "GAFAM" = o | Nov 24 01:38 |
| schestowitz | polite | Nov 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: no idea | Nov 24 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | GAFAM!!! | Nov 24 01:38 |
| schestowitz | nb: communities don't bomb countries and sterilise women at ICE facilities | Nov 24 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | See, this is why we wear masks. | Nov 24 01:38 |
| MinceR | Strife: Veteran Edition ran fine on GNU/Linux | Nov 24 01:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, these people won't be gone in four years. The people who supported this criminal regime won't all be gone. | Nov 24 01:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Maybe with their leader in prison and some of them dead from COVID the next election won't be so close though. | Nov 24 01:40 |
| vZS1 | Valve have a big role to play in the GNU/Linux space. A lot of people are moving away from Windows because of Proton. | Nov 24 01:40 |
| MinceR | steamOS is systemd/Linux, though | Nov 24 01:40 |
| MinceR | and proton opens people up to lawsuits from the redmond mafia | Nov 24 01:40 |
| vZS1 | Didn't say it's a good or bad thing | Nov 24 01:40 |
| MinceR | seems like an exercise in doing everything wrong | Nov 24 01:41 |
| MinceR | like most of the IT industry | Nov 24 01:41 |
| vZS1 | But they're now a major player | Nov 24 01:41 |
| psydroid | with a major attack surface | Nov 24 01:41 |
| vZS1 | Nobody should be relying on a gaming setup to be secure for anything | Nov 24 01:42 |
| MinceR | indeed | Nov 24 01:42 |
| vZS1 | That's just silly | Nov 24 01:42 |
| MinceR | my gaming machine is a separate laptop i don't use for anything security- or privacy-critical | Nov 24 01:43 |
| vZS1 | My machine for my sensitive data doesn't ever see the internet | Nov 24 01:43 |
| vZS1 | Linux has a lot of drivers for Microsoft products | Nov 24 01:46 |
| vZS1 | I have a wireless adapter for the old 360 controllers and it has plug-and-play functionality on Debian/Ubuntu | Nov 24 01:47 |
| vZS1 | That one surprised me | Nov 24 01:47 |
| vZS1 | What worries me is blobs getting into the source repo | Nov 24 01:49 |
| vZS1 | I keep seeing more every couple weeks | Nov 24 01:50 |
| vZS1 | I usually pull from Linus' git repo for the Linux source every Sunday | Nov 24 01:51 |
| vZS1 | I've been seeing a lot of stuff that is not Linux but driver support | Nov 24 01:51 |
| vZS1 | Most of it is merged in from third parties. | Nov 24 01:52 |
| vZS1 | Vast majority of the merges are completely undocumented | Nov 24 01:53 |
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| vZS1 | So Linus doesn't seem to be doing much actual programming. | Nov 24 01:55 |
| vZS1 | It's mostly just merging in things by others | Nov 24 01:55 |
| vZS1 | And there's not a lot of transparency about the context of the merges | Nov 24 01:56 |
| CrystalMath | that has been the case since 2010 | Nov 24 02:00 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, but Steam doesn't like generic console controllers. | Nov 24 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It doesn't like the PowerA wired switch controller, even though it's Nintendo certified. | Nov 24 02:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Some games refuse to work with off brand XBOX 360 controllers. | Nov 24 02:19 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/23/tech/apple-thomas-moyer-bribery-indictment/index.html | Nov 24 03:52 |
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| CrystalMath | hi gry | Nov 24 03:53 |
| gry | Hi CrystalMath | Nov 24 03:53 |
| CrystalMath | how are you? | Nov 24 04:02 |
| gry | i'm ok, bit busy with simulations | Nov 24 04:11 |
| psydroid | I consider Linux (the kernel) pretty much unsalvageable at this point, even though I am somewhat familiar with its internals and I am afraid I could say the same thing about many of the GNU tools, but what is most important is the spirit of free software that allows us to recreate such software by (possibly) studying the originals and writing replacements as needed | Nov 24 06:09 |
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| Ariadne | psydroid: yes, at work, we are looking into hosting alpine on a linux abi-compatible microkernel setup similar to HURD (but that's future handwavy stuff) | Nov 24 07:41 |
| CrystalMath | i thought about writing a GPLv3 UNIX-like kernel | Nov 24 07:46 |
| CrystalMath | but i keep thinking... BSD is out there | Nov 24 07:46 |
| CrystalMath | so why | Nov 24 07:46 |
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| vZS1 | psydroid: another important thing is access to the commit history. A lot of the garbage can be removed by studying the revision history. | Nov 24 09:03 |
| vZS1 | Package maintainers also try to smuggle in things under users' noses. Building from source is becoming more important to preserve user freedom | Nov 24 09:07 |
| vZS1 | That's why it's important to archive the VCS repos of all the important projects. | Nov 24 09:12 |
| vZS1 | It doesn't really add up to much data. | Nov 24 09:13 |
| vZS1 | Probably less than 10GB for all the GNU stuff | Nov 24 09:14 |
| vZS1 | There's stuff from all the BSDs as well. | Nov 24 09:14 |
| vZS1 | Which are important to archive | Nov 24 09:15 |
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| vZS1 | schestowitz: I've dug out an old laptop to serve as an IPFS node, for now. It runs plain Debian. | Nov 24 11:13 |
| vZS1 | I've decided to actually go for NetBSD on the Pi. Vast architecture support, which is what I need. Better performance then OpenBSD as well. | Nov 24 11:14 |
| vZS1 | than* | Nov 24 11:14 |
| schestowitz | are they pratically better though? | Nov 24 11:14 |
| schestowitz | seems like 'geek vanity' | Nov 24 11:15 |
| schestowitz | looking for steeper challenges | Nov 24 11:15 |
| vZS1 | It's not about challenge | Nov 24 11:15 |
| vZS1 | It's about portability and performance | Nov 24 11:15 |
| vZS1 | Those are the top two priorities | Nov 24 11:16 |
| vZS1 | NetBSD has native support for many more architectures. Which means people have more freedom of choice when it comes to hardware. Which is a practical decision because not everyone has access to the same hardware | Nov 24 11:17 |
| vZS1 | The OS also has a much smaller resource footprint because it usually has to run in embedded hardware | Nov 24 11:21 |
| vZS1 | Which makes my life easier because I can build off their expertise | Nov 24 11:22 |
| psydroid | I've also tried NetBSD on my OPi on and off | Nov 24 11:27 |
| psydroid | just a USB keyboard didn't work | Nov 24 11:28 |
| schestowitz | netbsd is partly developed on google cash now | Nov 24 11:30 |
| schestowitz | gsoc mainly | Nov 24 11:30 |
| schestowitz | and maybe because they want a non-gpl kernel that is light | Nov 24 11:30 |
| schestowitz | and they can leverage on the cheap | Nov 24 11:30 |
| vZS1 | They support ODOROID and stuff OOTB | Nov 24 11:34 |
| vZS1 | Which has some pretty good boards on offer. More accessible to some markets | Nov 24 11:35 |
| psydroid | Benny Siegert from Google did a talk about ARMv8 support for NetBSD at FOSDEM last year | Nov 24 11:38 |
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| vZS1 | Need to do an IPFS implementation in C, one of these days. I have a friend who might be up to the task to help. He's an embedded person | Nov 24 11:44 |
| vZS1 | The APIs aren't all that complicated | Nov 24 11:45 |
| vZS1 | I've already poked around the Go implementation a fair bit | Nov 24 11:46 |
| vZS1 | They're building a Rust implementation so let's see how that turns out | Nov 24 11:48 |
| vZS1 | The Go implementation takes up more resources than it needs to just because it's in Go | Nov 24 11:48 |
| vZS1 | I don't fancy programming in Rust because no specification | Nov 24 11:49 |
| vZS1 | Nothing like glibc either and all the documentation to fall back on | Nov 24 11:50 |
| vZS1 | At least Go has that going for it | Nov 24 11:50 |
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| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/MWl2u1o.jpg | Nov 24 13:08 |
| vZS1 | I got an IPFS node running on the old laptop | Nov 24 13:09 |
| vZS1 | Next up. Get NetBSD working on the Pi. | Nov 24 13:11 |
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| XRevan86 | https://bash.im/quote/463611 "Passing by a school I hear an early-grader ask: "How did your parents vote, for Biden or for Trump"". Not enough context, I assume the quote is from Vladivostok. | Nov 24 13:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-bash.im | Цитата #463611 – Цитатник Рунета | Nov 24 13:17 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1: cool! | Nov 24 13:19 |
| vZS1 | Since I have an IPFS node running all the time anyway, I use an IPNS object that points to an IPFS object with my IP address in it. Pointer is updated dynamically. Goodbye DNS. | Nov 24 13:42 |
| vZS1 | IPNS object is a static pointer | Nov 24 13:43 |
| vZS1 | The propagation time is pretty decent | Nov 24 13:45 |
| vZS1 | I'll have to run more extensive tests later to get an idea of what the propagation time roughly settles at. | Nov 24 13:46 |
| vZS1 | Not having to deal with DNS and all its bullshittery is worth the effort. | Nov 24 13:46 |
| schestowitz | DNS is old | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | it's an alias book | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | now we have so much storage on computers | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | 100 million of ipv4 address should not be much | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | even to update | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | 100mb for one byte each | Nov 24 14:01 |
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| schestowitz | but in one byte you can squeeze in more with compression | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | and over 90% of the entries are irrelevant for the most part | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | parked and unused domains | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | so maybe in less than a gigabyte, with occasional updates, you can do away with centralised dns | Nov 24 14:01 |
| schestowitz | you could even hash the thing | Nov 24 14:02 |
| schestowitz | then compress | Nov 24 14:02 |
| schestowitz | and pass updates in a p2p fashion like windows update | Nov 24 14:02 |
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| MinceR | https://nitter.net/bascule/status/1330914065368027144 | Nov 24 14:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Tony “Abolish (Pol)ICE” Arcieri 🦀 (@bascule): "Anyone need a 7-screen laptop?" | nitter | Nov 24 14:31 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR: maybe handy for upcoming article... | Nov 24 14:39 |
| schestowitz | don't know any background info to this | Nov 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | because... "tweets" | Nov 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | just a bunch of tl;dr | Nov 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | no substance | Nov 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | click, comment, move on | Nov 24 14:40 |
| schestowitz | something about usability | Nov 24 14:45 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: on why not use a tiny 'phone' | Nov 24 14:46 |
| schestowitz | need to think of the topic | Nov 24 14:46 |
| vZS1 | Content-based addressing and DHTs make pretty good alternatives | Nov 24 14:51 |
| vZS1 | There are options for running stuff like IPFS in "client-only" mode to reduce bandwidth usage. | Nov 24 14:52 |
| vZS1 | But right now it's still in the domain of engineers | Nov 24 14:53 |
| vZS1 | It'll take a few years for the usability to catch up with torrents | Nov 24 14:54 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1: ddos risk to increase today | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | because of things we published | Nov 24 15:01 |
| vZS1 | What did you go and do now? lol | Nov 24 15:01 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/EPO | Nov 24 15:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | EPO - Techrights | Nov 24 15:03 | |
| schestowitz | 4 articles today | Nov 24 15:03 |
| schestowitz | they're mass-mailing the managers | Nov 24 15:04 |
| schestowitz | 7,000 EPO workers | Nov 24 15:04 |
| vZS1 | One of the days I'll set up an IPFS-backed website | Nov 24 15:05 |
| vZS1 | For TR | Nov 24 15:05 |
| vZS1 | Through the public HTTP gateway | Nov 24 15:05 |
| vZS1 | With all the objects I have | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=build-computer-desk&num=1 | Nov 24 15:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Building A Large L-Shaped Desk For Accommodating Plenty Of Computers - Phoronix | Nov 24 15:06 | |
| schestowitz | recent | Nov 24 15:06 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: I manually convert the PDFs into html | Nov 24 15:07 |
| schestowitz | in turn, overnight, pypy will turn these into rich plain text | Nov 24 15:07 |
| CrystalMath | wow, so many color codes needed | Nov 24 15:07 |
| schestowitz | rich as in structure-aware | Nov 24 15:07 |
| CrystalMath | good thing i have a 256-color browser | Nov 24 15:07 |
| vZS1 | Neat | Nov 24 15:07 |
| CrystalMath | if i was on the tty, it would be only 16 and i couldn't read that page | Nov 24 15:07 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Nov 24 15:07 |
| vZS1 | Which libraries do you use? | Nov 24 15:09 |
| MinceR | must be nice to have room for a large desk | Nov 24 15:10 |
| vZS1 | I think at that point just working with a projector is better | Nov 24 15:16 |
| vZS1 | Too many screens | Nov 24 15:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "must be nice to have room for a "> No need. | Nov 24 15:25 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Laptops are all pretty fast these days, with the exception of the absolute cheapest stuff that comes with Windows. | Nov 24 15:25 |
| MinceR | it's still nice to have room for input devices, displays, other peripherals | Nov 24 15:26 |
| psydroid | and then you remove Windows and install an operating system that works, if possible | Nov 24 15:26 |
| MinceR | preferably separate display and input devices for computers that should be isolated from others | Nov 24 15:26 |
| MinceR | i don't, so i use a usb peripheral sharing device instead | Nov 24 15:26 |
| MinceR | s/don't/don't have room for those/ | Nov 24 15:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many laptops seem to be getting rid of ports except for USB type C. | Nov 24 15:31 |
| MinceR | must be fun carrying a dongle around just so you can connect a keyboard, a mouse or a flash card | Nov 24 15:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's amazing how little of permanence got done under Trump and he still gets so many people adoring him. | Nov 24 15:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump Don't Care basically flopped except for the individual mandate, which Obama didn't even want. | Nov 24 15:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If someone is so retarded that they're willing to risk hundreds of thousands in medical debt to save a few bucks on health insurance, seems like we should let them anyway. | Nov 24 15:35 |
| CrystalMath | why is it dumb? | Nov 24 15:36 |
| CrystalMath | i mean in their case it might be, at least for many of them | Nov 24 15:36 |
| CrystalMath | but some people don't care if they die | Nov 24 15:36 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: next article will use http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/serbia-execution.png | Nov 24 15:36 |
| CrystalMath | hmm? | Nov 24 15:37 |
| CrystalMath | in what context? | Nov 24 15:37 |
| schestowitz | you will see | Nov 24 15:38 |
| CrystalMath | i would be really disappointed if techrights were to write some stupid anti-serbian hit piece | Nov 24 15:39 |
| schestowitz | no | Nov 24 15:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My mom keeps trying to paint me as some sort of evil person for voting for Democrats. | Nov 24 15:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She keeps going back to abortion. | Nov 24 15:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, frankly there's a lot of things in the world that might not be right, but where the alternative is even worse. | Nov 24 15:41 |
| CrystalMath | Trump didn't ban abortion | Nov 24 15:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And we accept that and move on. | Nov 24 15:42 |
| CrystalMath | nor would he | Nov 24 15:42 |
| MinceR | he merely appointed a supreme court justice who will | Nov 24 15:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Nope, and even reversing Roe wouldn't meaningfully change the situation. | Nov 24 15:42 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: Amy Coney Barrett wasn't even his first choice | Nov 24 15:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It wouldn't ban abortion. It might make it a little bit harder to get one for some people. | Nov 24 15:42 |
| MinceR | CrystalMath: but they wouldn't take mike pants? | Nov 24 15:42 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: he had to pick her because of the republicans | Nov 24 15:42 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But red states have already done so much within Roe to get rid of it that getting rid of Roe wouldn't change much of anything at this point. | Nov 24 15:43 |
| MinceR | yeah, and the "republicans" (including cheeto hitler) are christian fundamentalists | Nov 24 15:43 |
| CrystalMath | Brett Kavanaugh explicitly said he wouldn't overturn Roe v. Wade | Nov 24 15:44 |
| CrystalMath | and it's not going to be overturned... it wouldn't be even after 500 years of Trump | Nov 24 15:45 |
| CrystalMath | theoretically | Nov 24 15:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, and there's the Republicans who keep saying that every Republican on the court is a closet liberal who tricked them. | Nov 24 15:46 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 24 15:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Because every issue that comes up, you're still arguing it to 9 people who have differing opinions on different issues, and there will always be uncertainty because of that. | Nov 24 15:46 |
| CrystalMath | well, i'm not a closet liberal, i'm openly libertarian, and i'm making the case that Trump is secretly libertarian | Nov 24 15:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, he was a Reform Party candidate in 2000. | Nov 24 15:47 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: http://techrights.org/2020/11/24/lots-of-good-news-today/ | Nov 24 15:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He did get some votes then. | Nov 24 15:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Lots of Good News Today | Techrights | Nov 24 15:47 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Reform Party was just weird, right? | Nov 24 15:47 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You had Jesse Ventura who was a guy who meant well that the Democrats and Republicans ganged up on. | Nov 24 15:48 |
| MinceR | 24 164649 < CrystalMath> well, i'm not a closet liberal, i'm openly libertarian, and i'm making the case that Trump is secretly libertarian | Nov 24 15:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'd probably vote for him for president if he ran as a major party candidate. | Nov 24 15:48 |
| MinceR | that would make keeping secrets the only thing he's good at | Nov 24 15:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's not as important to me, that I agree with a candidate on every issue. | Nov 24 15:48 |
| MinceR | are kim jong-un and putin "secretly libertarian" too? | Nov 24 15:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who I like more or dislike less is also a deciding factor. | Nov 24 15:49 |
| MinceR | DaemonFC[m]: just another clue that you should be against having leaders entirely | Nov 24 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Trump hasn't had so many outbursts and so much openly toxic behavior, I think he would have pulled this one off. | Nov 24 15:49 |
| MinceR | when the choices always come up as Bad vs Worse, it would be better to have neither | Nov 24 15:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Perhaps by slim margins, but there's so many contributing factors to a win or a loss, that yeah.... | Nov 24 15:49 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: of course not | Nov 24 15:50 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: the great thing about russia is that you can hide in the tundras | Nov 24 15:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: It's fun watching dad eat crow, though. | Nov 24 15:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him that Trump would lose Michigan because of the new NAFTA. | Nov 24 15:50 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Where did the vote shift more towards Biden? Well, there were big jumps towards Biden even in counties that Trump won a second time, and a lot of that was displaced factory workers and stuff. | Nov 24 15:51 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: nice article, i disagree that Trump is a fascist of course, but the rest is good | Nov 24 15:51 |
| CrystalMath | schestowitz: i think there will be more challenges for software freedom with Biden | Nov 24 15:51 |
| CrystalMath | but maybe i'm wrong | Nov 24 15:52 |
| CrystalMath | i just can't get myself to think Biden will be just like Obama and stuff | Nov 24 15:52 |
| CrystalMath | it just doesn't seem like it at all | Nov 24 15:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Won't be exactly the same, but the machinery that got him there is largely the same. | Nov 24 15:52 |
| MinceR | he was obama's VP, after all | Nov 24 15:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obama people all around, and they know how to win elections. There wasn't much of that in place for Hillary Clinton. | Nov 24 15:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats didn't take an absolute beating in the Senate. The Senate has typically been close for decades now. | Nov 24 15:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The staggered terms are partially to ensure that extremist political movements can't change the entire Senate over in any cycle. | Nov 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | [15:51] <CrystalMath> schestowitz: i think there will be more challenges for software freedom with Biden | Nov 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | we wrote about those | Nov 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | re patent law, Trump was likely much worse | Nov 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | he put iancu in place of lee | Nov 24 15:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The House completely changes each cycle and is a snapshot about where the political opinion is at that time, every two years. | Nov 24 15:54 |
| schestowitz | and it went downhill, except for trolls | Nov 24 15:54 |
| CrystalMath | Trump also sided with Oracle in Oracle v. Google, which was bad | Nov 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | e.g. http://techrights.org/2020/11/10/biden-shifted-to-the-right/ | Nov 24 15:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Watching The Handmaid's Tale. | Nov 24 15:55 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | President-elect Biden is Already Being Shifted… to the Right | Techrights | Nov 24 15:55 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I noticed that the Commanders of Gilead all drive Teslas. | Nov 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: because Trump is a friend of larrison | Nov 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | it's all nepotism, favours, corruption | Nov 24 15:55 |
| CrystalMath | yeah that sucks | Nov 24 15:55 |
| schestowitz | larrison openly cheering, it's about policial favours | Nov 24 15:56 |
| MinceR | twitler also put a shit pie in place to end net neutrality | Nov 24 15:56 |
| CrystalMath | sacrificing interopability so that your friend can enforce a software license beyond its usual boundaries | Nov 24 15:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In a prior episode, Commander Waterford mentioned that one of the hard lessons they learned was that the environment got destroyed and they're actually environmentalists now because they can't afford any more setbacks there. | Nov 24 15:56 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: bad across the board on copyrights | Nov 24 15:56 |
| schestowitz | trump was not better than obama at anything, and obama sucked too | Nov 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz | like clinton and bush did | Nov 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz | they just pass any law the large corporations want | Nov 24 15:57 |
| schestowitz | so the rich get richer and buy the next president | Nov 24 15:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I downloaded the movie, and it wasn't great. Perhaps I'm just used to binge watching TV shows now that have more hours in which to explain story elements that a 2 hour movie just can't wrap up. | Nov 24 15:57 |
| CrystalMath | i watched the film, Handmaid's Tale (1990) | Nov 24 15:57 |
| CrystalMath | i cried during that scene when they were capturing those nuns :( | Nov 24 15:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The oil companies are fucked. | Nov 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | California's fuel economy standards are going to be implemented nationwide and between the states. | Nov 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trump lost big there. | Nov 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | GM says they plan to fully comply on the way to phasing out gasoline engines completely. | Nov 24 15:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Also, travel is down (hence the low oil prices), so Trump can certainly try to sign off on leases in Alaska's wildlife refuge, but as to whether any sell or not, probably not. | Nov 24 15:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Remember Bush tried to do it too, and with far greater demand for oil and with higher prices that seemed to justify doing anything to get more. | Nov 24 15:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | What does the Coronavirus oil slump followed by stringent new economy standards on the way to the end of gasoline tell us? | Nov 24 16:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bidding on those contracts is a bad investment being pitched to an industry in bankruptcy. | Nov 24 16:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's more kabuki theater on the way out. | Nov 24 16:00 |
| CrystalMath | honestly though, gasoline engines are not the biggest problem | Nov 24 16:01 |
| CrystalMath | CO2 has continued to increase throughout the lockdown | Nov 24 16:01 |
| CrystalMath | the real people you should be targetting are not indiviudals but factories | Nov 24 16:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | No, but coal is being phased out too. | Nov 24 16:01 |
| CrystalMath | although, the extraction of oil is extremely devastating | Nov 24 16:01 |
| CrystalMath | that's still done by companies | Nov 24 16:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Progress on that accelerated under Trump because states were looking to stick it to him and showed the coal companies the door. | Nov 24 16:02 |
| CrystalMath | well i think that's gonna take a while | Nov 24 16:02 |
| CrystalMath | i mean unless you have what, nuclear? | Nov 24 16:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's actually rather funny watching them attack each other's donors. | Nov 24 16:03 |
| CrystalMath | hydroelectric is great, we have that here because we have a huge river, but not everybody does | Nov 24 16:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Right? Because the public wins sometimes. | Nov 24 16:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Democrats phase out coal. Trump attacks the pharmaceutical industry. | Nov 24 16:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's a Jerry Springer slap fight. | Nov 24 16:04 |
| CrystalMath | i don't think there's a good replacement for coal | Nov 24 16:04 |
| CrystalMath | and that's a problem | Nov 24 16:04 |
| CrystalMath | solar sucks | Nov 24 16:04 |
| CrystalMath | it's incredibly inefficient unless done in space | Nov 24 16:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Obviously there is, if it's gone from almost 40% of energy production in the US to just 13%. | Nov 24 16:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On the way down to 9% in the next few years. | Nov 24 16:05 |
| CrystalMath | being replaced by nuclear i presume | Nov 24 16:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Natural gas, mostly. | Nov 24 16:05 |
| CrystalMath | oh | Nov 24 16:05 |
| CrystalMath | well that still produces CO2 | Nov 24 16:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's easy to convert to, cheaper, and it's cleaner burning so you don't have to shut down and scrub everything down. | Nov 24 16:06 |
| CrystalMath | okay, i don't consider that much of a difference though | Nov 24 16:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, but by amount of energy produced, it causes less than half the CO2 emissions. | Nov 24 16:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it's still a big win in the mean time. Well, coal is becoming prohibitively expensive. | Nov 24 16:06 |
| CrystalMath | companies are still free to do all kinds of crap while "environmentalist" attack the individual for using a gasoline engine | Nov 24 16:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Indiana tossed $8 billion dollars of taxpayer money into a coal gasification plant just to scrap it before it ever did anything. | Nov 24 16:07 |
| CrystalMath | as president, i would authorize small businesses to violate whatever regulation they want | Nov 24 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And Indiana's ratepayers are on the hook to cover something that never produced any energy at all. | Nov 24 16:07 |
| CrystalMath | as long as they're small enough | Nov 24 16:07 |
| CrystalMath | also they would get tax money to get started | Nov 24 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many regulations already have exemptions for small businesses, including the Family Medical Leave Act. | Nov 24 16:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And minimum wage laws sometimes. | Nov 24 16:07 |
| CrystalMath | megacorps on the other hand would NEVER get help from the government | Nov 24 16:08 |
| CrystalMath | microsoft fails? i laugh | Nov 24 16:08 |
| CrystalMath | i don't care at all about the "instability" that would cause | Nov 24 16:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, Walmart built an empire on top of using welfare programs to hide the real costs of their products. | Nov 24 16:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You'd shop there, right, and their employees were using food stamps and Medicaid because they didn't get paid much of anything. | Nov 24 16:08 |
| CrystalMath | i hate walmart | Nov 24 16:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So Illinois raises the minimum wage to $15, phasing in, all of a sudden people shopping at Walmart are paying for what they use. | Nov 24 16:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mom was talking about this multi-millionaire that lived down the block from where she lived as a child. | Nov 24 16:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said he got rich investing in things like IBM and Coca Cola. | Nov 24 16:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that he grew up during the Depression. | Nov 24 16:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | He got in the habit of not being able to take a bath very often and he had such a frugal mindset that he didn't use very much soap while he was in there. | Nov 24 16:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So her friend gave them an expensive coat that he didn't want anymore, and my mom was like, "Yeah, Carl can probably wear that.", and they open it up and the smell hits them both and they were like "WHOA!". | Nov 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She said dry cleaning got it out though. | Nov 24 16:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mandy gets after me for being such a skinflint about most things. | Nov 24 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I always bargain hunt, almost always. | Nov 24 16:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But occasionally I splurge on a hell of a nice computer or something. Roy thinks an extra $500 on a computer over what maybe a baseline model runs every 5 or 6 years is a major budget sin that's going to cause a second bankruptcy, I guess. | Nov 24 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The first and only bankruptcy I've had was entirely the fault of mounting legal bills trying to fight off false charges that the outgoing (voted out) prosecutor came after me with after my ex lied to the cops. | Nov 24 16:14 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I've always generally looked for ways to stretch money. | Nov 24 16:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, I'll be at the store reading the price signage trying to figure out if there's a way to spend half a cent per ounce less on coffee, and I use coupons and look for dented cans and last day meat deals. | Nov 24 16:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The stores know how to roll most people. | Nov 24 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do you want to finance that? No. | Nov 24 16:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Do you want an extended warranty for just (20% of the purchase price) so you can get it fixed (if you can get the company on the phone and they don't deny the claim, on a device that's not designed to last more than several years anyway)? Pass. | Nov 24 16:17 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I mean, by the time something breaks down you might have bought 20 or 30 extended warranties that they're never going to honor and you lost the paperwork somewhere anyway. | Nov 24 16:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Extended warranties, put bluntly, are a tool to assess if the customer is stupid, if so, to get them to agree to a price increase, and placate them so they don't feel like they got robbed. | Nov 24 16:19 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And most major purchases have a manufacturer's warranty anyway, and the extended warranty people won't even talk to you until that's over with, and if you pay with a credit card, sometimes one of the benefits is that the card company doubles the manufacturer's warranty (through their underwriter) under the same terms. | Nov 24 16:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, mom listens to Dave Ramsey, she says....Then she buys an extended warranty even though he says not to. | Nov 24 16:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She had thousands of dollars that she financed through a bankruptcy car loan firm go out the window because the extended warranty she bought on the thing she's driving has one of those companies that denies every claim. | Nov 24 16:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I don't know how this works. Maybe it's like the bible. | Nov 24 16:23 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I listen to Dave Ramsey. No I don't know what he says, but I listen to Dave Ramsey. | Nov 24 16:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then I don't actually do anything he says to. | Nov 24 16:24 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 24 16:24 |
| CrystalMath | i listen to Paul Joseph Watson from time to time | Nov 24 16:24 |
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| CrystalMath | he actually says the reverse of what he said before a lot | Nov 24 16:24 |
| CrystalMath | so it's hard to get a clear picture, but at least he provides some news | Nov 24 16:25 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | That's always fascinated me about Christians. God or no God aside, you're wasting your time if you don't even believe in it to bother following the simplest of instructions. | Nov 24 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: They believe to associate. | Nov 24 16:26 |
| XRevan86 | Not to follow instructions. No one wants an extra burden. | Nov 24 16:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How serious are you? Do you think the God that watches you and imposed commandments on you is such a fool that you're going to get up there and say "Well, I was in church backslapping a lot, and I even caught the Democrat Hoax a couple of times, but don't fuck the wife of the guy sitting next to me.....just slipped past me. Where is that one at?". | Nov 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | CrystalMath: : he's a mix of facts and fiction | Nov 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | like the sites he associates with | Nov 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | iirc, twitter banned him | Nov 24 16:27 |
| schestowitz | or maybe he was luckily spared | Nov 24 16:27 |
| CrystalMath | well i don't like they're putting chemicals in the water that turn the frigging frogs gay | Nov 24 16:28 |
| CrystalMath | :P | Nov 24 16:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Gay frogs. | Nov 24 16:28 |
| *schestowitz does not have a problem with gay frogs | Nov 24 16:28 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Christian Frog neighbor lady in Frog Texas made a fake Frog Police report to get them arrested. | Nov 24 16:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Frog Supreme Court wasn't having any of it though. | Nov 24 16:29 |
| CrystalMath | https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=9JRLCBb7qK8 | Nov 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | some people online are cuckoo factories | Nov 24 16:29 |
| schestowitz | they take reasonably sane and innocent people, draw them in, turn them cuckoo | Nov 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | Aanon is a good example of it | Nov 24 16:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-invidious.snopyta.org | Gay Frogs (Alex Jones REMIX) - Invidious | Nov 24 16:30 | |
| schestowitz | e.g. claims Assange had died in 2016 | Nov 24 16:30 |
| schestowitz | and that anything after that is "HEY HI" and CGI | Nov 24 16:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would be nice if he had died in 2015. | Nov 24 16:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Before he got Cheeto Hitler elected. | Nov 24 16:30 |
| CrystalMath | Hillary Clinton got Trump elected | Nov 24 16:31 |
| CrystalMath | by doing the things that were revealed by wikileaks | Nov 24 16:31 |
| CrystalMath | and being a warmonger, threatening war with Russia | Nov 24 16:31 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Hopefully, New York has Trump stamping license plates. | Nov 24 16:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Rod Blogojevich should have never been let out of prison. | Nov 24 16:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I wish Illinois had convicted him too in case he ever got out of Club Fed. | Nov 24 16:32 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks showed HRC team had been helping Trump | Nov 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | to weaken her rival | Nov 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | and by doing so putting the whole nation at risk | Nov 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | Wikileaks also showed war crimes before that | Nov 24 16:33 |
| CrystalMath | Blagojevich, sounds serbian | Nov 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | and CIA back doors etc. in 2017 | Nov 24 16:33 |
| schestowitz | so if you don't want to take podesta emails and dnc leaks, you need to also pretend cablegate did not benefit you | Nov 24 16:34 |
| schestowitz | Ryan: let war crimes be so I can have maaa hillary | Nov 24 16:34 |
| CrystalMath | *killary | Nov 24 16:35 |
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| MinceR | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPs3EeRyL9Y | Nov 24 16:43 |
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| CrystalMath | MinceR: lol | Nov 24 16:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Good news was there wasn't as much of that Hawaiian Chicken as I thought. | Nov 24 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bad news is Mandy was mad at me for throwing it out. | Nov 24 16:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I told him time and temperature. I wasn't about to get a $60,000 hospital bill for a stomach pump while COVID is running through there like some sort of Aliens horror movie over $1 worth of food. | Nov 24 16:53 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Mom was saying it didn't occur to him because they're used to eating out of the trash and having shit flowing down the street if it rains too much. | Nov 24 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Well, in his defense, he comes from a place where they've always had an unstable and highly corrupt dictatorship, and we backslid a lot here before pulling ourselves out of it after 4 years.". | Nov 24 16:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | By first world standards, the US government is corrupt. | Nov 24 17:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Philippines is pretty garden variety third world corrupt from what I understand. | Nov 24 17:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And I used some psychology there on Maricel to remind her of where she came from. | Nov 24 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I said something like, "I've heard enough about that place to know I don't want Mandy to go back there.". | Nov 24 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They were already furious and things were already broken down, so yeah it was a parting insult. | Nov 24 17:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | She's always terrified that people will stand in judgment or know what kind of a place she crawled out of. | Nov 24 17:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So it was sort of one of those "You're not hiding anything from me." deals. | Nov 24 17:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I've learned that you can imply things without saying them and make it sting so much worse. | Nov 24 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, you don't have to say "shithole countries". | Nov 24 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You just imply that they're backwards savages and you're concerned he'll have to go back. | Nov 24 17:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Bringing out the big guns when you want to hurt someone is not always the correct strategy. | Nov 24 17:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sometimes it's easier to just have the wheels turn and make them get angrier the more they peel back the layers on what you just said. | Nov 24 17:06 |
| schestowitz | [16:58] <DaemonFC[m]> schestowitz: Mom was saying it didn't occur to him because they're used to eating out of the trash and having shit flowing down the street if it rains too much. | Nov 24 17:07 |
| schestowitz | mom being nastry | Nov 24 17:07 |
| schestowitz | but... | Nov 24 17:07 |
| schestowitz | Trump voter | Nov 24 17:07 |
| schestowitz | so that computes | Nov 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | there are still ways to cook the chicken to make it safer | Nov 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | in battles and I'm told also in India they use lots of spices | Nov 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | you can also overcook it a bit | Nov 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | enough to kill the germs | Nov 24 17:08 |
| schestowitz | you would not get worse than a trip to the toilet, at worst | Nov 24 17:08 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19518471 | Nov 24 17:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #trump will run in 2024. He'll run to Russia or Finland (which he thinks is part of Russia). | Nov 24 17:25 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Run to Russia..... :) | Nov 24 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, he is the Darth Maul to Putin's Palpatine I guess. | Nov 24 17:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Sith don't tend to have good retirement packages. | Nov 24 17:27 |
| MinceR | lol @ run to russia | Nov 24 17:27 |
| schestowitz | you could send him to russia on a rocket, ICBMs get there real fast! | Nov 24 17:28 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/24/pennsylvania-certifies-election.html | Nov 24 17:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.cnbc.com | Pennsylvania certifies Biden win over Trump in presidential election | Nov 24 17:29 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Last nail in the coffin for the Trump campaign. | Nov 24 17:29 |
| *schestowitz always wanted to see a chain reaction on Cheetos | Nov 24 17:29 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: oh, good | Nov 24 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That fat pig of a GSA lady looks like Jabba the Hutt. | Nov 24 17:31 |
| schestowitz | less fuel for birtherism 2.0 | Nov 24 17:31 |
| schestowitz | you'll be hearing from madame carl farmone for 4 years after how biden "Stole" the election | Nov 24 17:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Dad appears to realize now that it's over. He says he may have to leave the country. | Nov 24 17:31 |
| schestowitz | so more ammo to you | Nov 24 17:31 |
| schestowitz | "Trump was NOT EVEN CLOSE!" | Nov 24 17:32 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: your dad is going to leave? | Nov 24 17:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Of course he won't. | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | leave where? | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | mexico? | Nov 24 17:32 |
| CrystalMath | well that depends on how bad Biden is | Nov 24 17:32 |
| CrystalMath | is Biden makes it unbearable to live there | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | europe wants yanks even less after so many voted trump | Nov 24 17:32 |
| CrystalMath | he may have to | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | there needs to be more aggressive vetting process | Nov 24 17:32 |
| schestowitz | to prevent trumpism creeping into europe | Nov 24 17:33 |
| CrystalMath | Trumpism is already in Europe | Nov 24 17:33 |
| schestowitz | that's what us did in ww2 with europeans, fearing it would import nazis and their sympathisers | Nov 24 17:33 |
| schestowitz | not that the US lacked its own | Nov 24 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | "Wonder where you'd even go now that the Trump Plague has made the US Passport a good substitute for the bare shelves of toilet paper. | Nov 24 17:33 |
| DaemonFC[m] | -Ryan" | Nov 24 17:33 |
| schestowitz | (just managed to keep them better under control) | Nov 24 17:33 |
| schestowitz | lol | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | haha | Nov 24 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | but our Trumpism here is not so great | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | even some third-world countries block US 'tourists' | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | (immigrants) | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | because they're a covid risk | Nov 24 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | americans are welcome in serbia | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | and the arms mentality/trump support is not helping either | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | they can be 'radicalisers' | Nov 24 17:34 |
| CrystalMath | quite a few moved here this year | Nov 24 17:34 |
| schestowitz | serbia isn't considered attractive a destrination | Nov 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | no offense to you | Nov 24 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | serbia doesn't even require testing | Nov 24 17:35 |
| MinceR | where will all those trumpists go? russia? hungary? | Nov 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | croatia maybe for holidays | Nov 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | but too corrupt to live there | Nov 24 17:35 |
| CrystalMath | Croatia isn't as lax on covid | Nov 24 17:35 |
| schestowitz | never heard of immigrants to serbia | Nov 24 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I got a letter with a photo from Transunion that says ignoring your credit is almost as bad as ignoring your mother. | Nov 24 17:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, I like my mom, but 4 closets of toilet paper instead of cash in the bank is not a great way to live your life. | Nov 24 17:36 |
| MinceR | lol | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | "credit" is illusion | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | more so than money | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | like "intellectual property" | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | someone comes up with it | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | like facebook "friends; | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | they don't exist | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | it's just some bits in some idiot's private database | Nov 24 17:36 |
| schestowitz | Zuck's | Nov 24 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | ignoring credit? | Nov 24 17:36 |
| CrystalMath | what does that mean? | Nov 24 17:36 |
| *CrystalMath does not use banks | Nov 24 17:37 | |
| schestowitz | and they want you to waste days trying to 'amass' friends as though they were food items at the shelf | Nov 24 17:37 |
| schestowitz | until these people finally realise it's virtual and without worth | Nov 24 17:37 |
| schestowitz | "credit" is a man-made concept | Nov 24 17:37 |
| schestowitz | and only a currency in few concepts, such as loan-asking | Nov 24 17:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, people have "1,592 friends on Facebook". | Nov 24 17:37 |
| schestowitz | tbh, too many people take loans | Nov 24 17:37 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So, how many of those people would show up in the hospital if you were dying. | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | to keep up appearances | Nov 24 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | i have zero loans | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | to make it look like they're better off than they are | Nov 24 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or loan you $20 that week. | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | and they pay for faking it | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | with interest :-) | Nov 24 17:38 |
| CrystalMath | i actually lent money to others, at a zero interest rate | Nov 24 17:38 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Facebook has destroyed people's actual social skills. | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | [17:37] <DaemonFC[m]> Yeah, people have "1,592 friends on Facebook". | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | meet them all in 5 years | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | one per say | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | day | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | until you get covid 500 times | Nov 24 17:38 |
| schestowitz | and pass it to all those 1592 'friends' | Nov 24 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's just as well there's COVID lockdowns from that angle, because they wouldn't know what to do in the room with another person at this point anyway. | Nov 24 17:39 |
| schestowitz | play card game | Nov 24 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Society has grown extremely detached, jaded, and isolated anyway. | Nov 24 17:39 |
| schestowitz | board game | Nov 24 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You want someone to fuck? Get on an app. | Nov 24 17:39 |
| schestowitz | we used to do that | Nov 24 17:39 |
| schestowitz | take a ball, have a ball outside | Nov 24 17:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You want a pizza delivered by a gig economy slave? Get on an app. | Nov 24 17:39 |
| scientes | XRevan86, why doesn't compose+? produce the upside-down one? | Nov 24 17:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sure it's monitoring and monetizing everything you tell it, but why not? | Nov 24 17:40 |
| scientes | XRevan86, and do you know what sequence will do it? | Nov 24 17:40 |
| scientes | I didn't grow up typing Spanish...... | Nov 24 17:40 |
| XRevan86 | Compose + ?? does | Nov 24 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/24/health/filipino-nurse-deaths/index.html | Nov 24 17:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Covid-19 is taking a devastating toll on Filipino nurses - CNN | Nov 24 17:41 | |
| scientes | XRevan86, ahh thanks | Nov 24 17:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Not MARISOL. She's a politician for a grifting fake woo woo cancer hospital spiraling towards bankruptcy. | Nov 24 17:41 |
| scientes | I tried | Nov 24 17:41 |
| *scientes needed to try again | Nov 24 17:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Even teetering on bankruptcy, Cancer Treatment Centers of America is spending money bribing "news" articles to let them put in sponsored content. | Nov 24 17:43 |
| schestowitz | 'news | Nov 24 17:44 |
| schestowitz | fluff | Nov 24 17:44 |
| schestowitz | advernalism | Nov 24 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | NPR maybe is the only thing left that isn't a complete tabloid. | Nov 24 17:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Look, Trump is a fucking piece of shit, but seems like CNN goes to great lengths to give you your opinion for you I noticed. | Nov 24 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's like the equal and opposite of Fox News at this point. | Nov 24 17:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/24/politics/cdc-biden-transition/index.html | Nov 24 17:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-CDC ready for Biden transition: 'This is what we've been waiting for' - CNNPolitics | Nov 24 17:46 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | Of course, I'm glad that the real doctors at CDC are getting a president that isn't going to muzzle them and force them to post pre-written blurbs from the Politburo about how masks don't work and it's time to send the kids back to school. | Nov 24 17:47 |
| schestowitz | they can now say very bad things | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | and then blame it all on Trump | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | not Biden | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | who is technically not in charge yet | Nov 24 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Scott Atlas from the Herbert Hoover Administration won't be there to make it the official plan to let 2 million people drop dead from COVID, but Trump got us there halfway already. Baked in at this point. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | then twitler will write lots of violent tweets | Nov 24 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | *Hoover Foundation, rather. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can't make it up. | Nov 24 17:48 |
| schestowitz | [17:44] <DaemonFC[m]> NPR maybe is the only thing left that isn't a complete tabloid. | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | Gates-bribed | Nov 24 17:49 |
| schestowitz | and lying too sometimes | Nov 24 17:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I didn't say there was no corruption at all. The Republicans cut the CPB funding. | Nov 24 17:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Now they have their hand out and the rich people donate a ton of money and then want favors for it. | Nov 24 17:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The original intent of NPR and PBS was that you'd have a well informed public. | Nov 24 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But that's not useful to the Republicans. | Nov 24 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You degrade education and then tell them they can't get a job because a Mexican took it. | Nov 24 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't understand what economics is anymore, or trade policy, or tariffs. | Nov 24 17:55 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: But I like getting my news from NPR more than others because there's less of a slant and sensationalism on it. | Nov 24 18:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2020/Pres/Maps/Nov24.html#item-4 | Nov 24 18:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.electoral-vote.com | ElectoralVote | Nov 24 18:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "In fact, the Constitution makes no mention of a majority leader at all (since that would imply an acknowledgment of political parties, which the framers hoped to avoid). It does, however, grant the President of the Senate the right to preside over the Senate, which means that Kamala Harris could assert herself, and could be the one to decide what matters do and do not come up for a vote." | Nov 24 18:31 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think she should go there, honestly. | Nov 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | People elected a president because they want that administration to be able to control what Congress considers. | Nov 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And that's the whole reason for the Vice President's constitutional role as President of the Senate. | Nov 24 18:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would completely flip the script on Republicans. The Vice President can't vote except to break a deadlock, but controlling what comes up can put a Republican majority on the run. | Nov 24 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They will be unable to force the Democrats into votes on uncomfortable and damaging stuff, and the Democrats will be able to put everyone on the record on their items. | Nov 24 18:34 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they want any chance at all in the Senate majority in two years, they'll put the Republicans on defense. | Nov 24 18:35 |
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| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: the point of a republican senate would be to keep Biden in check | Nov 24 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | which is important | Nov 24 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | just like a democratic congress in 2018 was there to put Trump in check | Nov 24 18:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, but Kamala Harris could take control over the Senate's daily business. | Nov 24 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | but instead of doing that, they acted like petulant children | Nov 24 18:56 |
| CrystalMath | with russia nonsense | Nov 24 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Despite the Republican majority. | Nov 24 18:57 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: that would be bad | Nov 24 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's the constitutional option here. | Nov 24 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Why? The constitution says that's what the Vice President is supposed to do. | Nov 24 18:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It worked like that for many decades at first. | Nov 24 18:57 |
| CrystalMath | the senate has to do its job, and control the president | Nov 24 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The VP not having an active role in the Senate is something that only came about recently. | Nov 24 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | and the executive government as a whole | Nov 24 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | it must have that power | Nov 24 18:58 |
| CrystalMath | "i am the senate" never did anyone any good | Nov 24 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The VP presided directly over the Senate, pretty regularly, until the late 1960s iirc. | Nov 24 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's not what would be going on here. | Nov 24 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The VP has the constitutional option of controlling the Senate's agenda, but may not vote except to break a tie. | Nov 24 18:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They are the Senate President. | Nov 24 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | right | Nov 24 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | so if the obaminable sandman makes some horrible anti-privacy act | Nov 24 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | the senate can vote against it | Nov 24 18:59 |
| CrystalMath | and block it | Nov 24 18:59 |
| MinceR | it won't, though | Nov 24 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The job is normally seen as kind of dull. | Nov 24 18:59 |
| MinceR | both parties are against privacy | Nov 24 18:59 |
| MinceR | in case you haven't noticed | Nov 24 18:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Despite the fact that the majority party can appoint a President Pro Tempore, even that person doesn't normally preside. | Nov 24 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's usually doled out to one of the newer Senators so that they can better learn how the Senate functions. | Nov 24 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | MinceR: they will control other moonbattery | Nov 24 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | at least | Nov 24 19:00 |
| MinceR | unlikely | Nov 24 19:00 |
| CrystalMath | as for the rest, well, i'm glad i don't live in america | Nov 24 19:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Senate President can not really stop something from coming up for a vote, in the end. They'd have to call a cloture vote, just like what goes on right now. However, they can also force an issue just like any Senator could. | Nov 24 19:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They can use parliamentary procedure to try to stop things from being voted on though. | Nov 24 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they don't believe that something is proper, they can kick it to the Senate Parliamentarian as a point of order. | Nov 24 19:02 |
| CrystalMath | isn't congress the legislative branch? | Nov 24 19:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yes, but the Vice President is a member of two branches of government. | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | okay so the congres and the senate are the legislative branch | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | yeah i don't like that VP stuff in america | Nov 24 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | House and Senate. Together "Congress". | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | we don't have that anywhere in europe | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | we generally have strictly separated governments | Nov 24 19:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They each have some of their own exclusive functions. | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | here, the president can't do anything except represent the country | Nov 24 19:03 |
| CrystalMath | the president has no legislative, judicinal, nor executive function | Nov 24 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Revenue and spending bills may only be introduced in the House, and only the House can vote to impeach someone. | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | instead, we have a prime minister | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | the prime minister is the head of the executive government | Nov 24 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the Senate usually is the only one that has a vote to confirm presidential appointments. | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | we also have a parliament | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | it's kinda like britain, except | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | it's unicameral | Nov 24 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Although in some cases, the law or the constitution involves the House too. | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | and there's no monarch | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | instead of a monarch, there's a president | Nov 24 19:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | For example, if the office of Vice President becomes empty, both the House and the Senate must confirm a new one. | Nov 24 19:04 |
| CrystalMath | DaemonFC[m]: oh i see | Nov 24 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | so i've been misusing the word congress | Nov 24 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think we really need to take a step back here and have the House and the Senate confirm all appointments, up or down vote. Simple majority both chambers. | Nov 24 19:05 |
| CrystalMath | i meant the house | Nov 24 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | As a safeguard against another Trump just packing the courts. | Nov 24 19:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It would force consensus on nominees. We'd have better ones, I think. | Nov 24 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Constitution would have gotten rid of Trump eventually, but the plan here was pretty obvious. | Nov 24 19:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They'd pass it to some other member of the Trump Crime Family at some point. | Nov 24 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And we'd be another North Korea with the Kims. | Nov 24 19:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The United States has tended to avoid family political dynasties for the most part. | Nov 24 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Like, I don't think we're going to see Bushes and Clintons again. | Nov 24 19:08 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So hopefully one term of Trump has taught those 80-some million people the cost of apathy. | Nov 24 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | without Trump it would have been Clinton again | Nov 24 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | so what's your point? | Nov 24 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | that it should have been someone third in 2016? | Nov 24 19:09 |
| CrystalMath | everyone knows that... | Nov 24 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If Eric or Don Jr. get in, it's going to be worse. | Nov 24 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | but third options never work in the US | Nov 24 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If anything, they're both even bigger cretins than their father. | Nov 24 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | and that's why it IS like north korea | Nov 24 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, in North Korea they have "elections". | Nov 24 19:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But there's only one party allowed by law. | Nov 24 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | actually not quite | Nov 24 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | political parties are allowed, but | Nov 24 19:10 |
| CrystalMath | they have to join the same one coalition | Nov 24 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And it's to the national legislature only, which really isn't an independent or strong branch of government. | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | the democratic front for reunification of the fatherland | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | it has 3 political parties | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | that are members | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | the worker's party of korea | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | lead by Kim Jong-Un | Nov 24 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't have an up or down vote on the Kims every 4 years and it would only be a fake election if they did. | Nov 24 19:11 |
| CrystalMath | the socialdemocratic party of korea | Nov 24 19:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Communism doesn't really do elections once it takes over. | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | and the cheondoist chongu party | Nov 24 19:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Sort of like Nazis. | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | all 3 parties generally agree on everything | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | occasionally chongu members provide the one vote against something | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | but that's mostly scripted | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | "like, i think this law should have this slight insignificant difference!" | Nov 24 19:12 |
| CrystalMath | and that's how it goes | Nov 24 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | the government does whatever it wants | Nov 24 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | but it's NOT without its veneer | Nov 24 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | there's a lot of pretending | Nov 24 19:13 |
| CrystalMath | there's always pretending, so don't expect to be able to tell what is fascism and what is not | Nov 24 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | nobody will say it like it is | Nov 24 19:14 |
| CrystalMath | the next Hitler won't be waving a swastika | Nov 24 19:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.jwz.org/blog/2020/11/retropie-questions/ | Nov 24 19:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.jwz.org | jwz: RetroPie questions | Nov 24 19:44 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | "How do I rip a PS2 disc?" It's the internet. Someone has solved this somewhere. Pirate it. | Nov 24 19:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/24/rudy-giuliani-disbar/ | Nov 24 19:49 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Rudy Giuliani targeted for disbarment in state bar complaints filed by Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) - The Washington Post | Nov 24 19:49 | |
| schestowitz | today I saw the hair colour photo | Nov 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | and laughed out loud | Nov 24 19:51 |
| schestowitz | when historians ask, "how bad was the Trump coup?" | Nov 24 20:07 |
| schestowitz | People would nail down this photo and say, "THAT's how bad" | Nov 24 20:07 |
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| vZS1 | Pretty much every authority is against privacy | Nov 24 21:08 |
| vZS1 | Because it means they don't have control | Nov 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | yeah | Nov 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | "national security" | Nov 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | which means back doors etc. | Nov 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | newspeak | Nov 24 21:08 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19520095 | Nov 24 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Too many corporate 'journalists' are nowadays little but corporate tools, so what they say about #security profitability etc. is less than irrelevant. All that's important to them is, does this company pay me to say it? | Nov 24 21:09 | |
| schestowitz | [21:01] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): #CIA sponsoring US tech giants for #imperialism ttps://www.nextgov.com/it-modernization/2020/11/exclusive-cia-awards-secret-multibillion-dollar-cloud-contract/170227/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/853c197e-4697-4d4c-a98f-7c0409c63eee] | Nov 24 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | [21:00] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): Can we take #vpn software seriously when it's ported to platforms with #nsa back doors? https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=WireGuard-For-Windows-0.3 http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA [https://pleroma.site/objects/40726c4b-25da-456c-89ff-c8fb66b5082f] | Nov 24 21:09 |
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| schestowitz | [20:58] [Notice] -viera to #boycottnovell-social- Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊): "The #curl project is completely independent and stands free from influence from any parent or umbrella organization or company" Except #microsoft#deletegithub https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2020/11/24/the-curl-web-infrastructure/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/49188152-5568-4e1d-9fb8-1744c6c545e3] | Nov 24 21:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The curl web infrastructure | daniel.haxx.se | Nov 24 21:09 | |
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| schestowitz | they use Microsoft for all their webdev stuff | Nov 24 21:09 |
| schestowitz | and then claim "independence" | Nov 24 21:09 |
| schestowitz | what tools | Nov 24 21:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/11/amd-laptops-have-a-hidden-10-second-performance-delay-heres-why/?amp=1 | Nov 24 21:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-arstechnica.com | AMD laptops have a hidden 10-second performance delay. Here’s why – Ars Technica | Nov 24 21:14 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Things at Intel are so bad that they doubled CPU power consumption and banned reviewers from testing battery life. | Nov 24 21:15 |
| MinceR | :> | Nov 24 21:22 |
| vZS1 | They even have apps for toothbrushes now | Nov 24 21:26 |
| vZS1 | That's the extent of invasion | Nov 24 21:26 |
| schestowitz | vZS1: why the heck not? | Nov 24 21:27 |
| schestowitz | do toilet brushes have apps too (yet)? | Nov 24 21:27 |
| schestowitz | I bet those apps would be kinda shitty anyway... | Nov 24 21:27 |
| vZS1 | Probably not long until they do | Nov 24 21:27 |
| schestowitz | brushFit | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | let us count for you how many brushes you did today | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | then upload it to the clown | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | to show us to your fried | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | 'friends' | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | in a panel | Nov 24 21:28 |
| schestowitz | with "share" and "like" buttons | Nov 24 21:28 |
| MinceR | https://oralb.com/en-us/pro-5000-electric-toothbrush-with-smartguide-bluetooth/ | Nov 24 21:28 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-oralb.com | Pro 5000 with Bluetooth Electric Toothbrush | Oral-B | Nov 24 21:28 | |
| schestowitz | 'Michael likes your "I brushed my teeth with over 200 strokes" last night' | Nov 24 21:29 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: oral surveillance | Nov 24 21:29 |
| MinceR | https://www.usa.philips.com/c-m-pe/electric-toothbrushes | Nov 24 21:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.usa.philips.com | Philips Sonicare Electric Toothbrush & Accessories | Philips Sonicare | Nov 24 21:30 | |
| schestowitz | now google rectal surveillance too | Nov 24 21:30 |
| schestowitz | like "Smart buttplugs" or something | Nov 24 21:30 |
| MinceR | storing rectoscopy images in the "cloud" might be more effective :> | Nov 24 21:38 |
| schestowitz | I bet it's already done | Nov 24 21:38 |
| schestowitz | even foreign clowns | Nov 24 21:38 |
| schestowitz | like, colonoscopy and endoscopy data going into GAFAM in real time | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and the doctors won't give a shit | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | because "the clown" | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | it's safe | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | it's "the thing now" | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | they will then say it does "HEY HI" on the data | Nov 24 21:39 |
| schestowitz | and "saves lives" because "HEY HI" | Nov 24 21:39 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2208/ | Nov 24 21:45 |
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