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MinceR | they've been pushing Google Play Services or whatever | Dec 25 00:00 |
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psydroid | Apple and Microsoft must be afraid of losing to Google on their home turf as well, but it's inevitable in the long run | Dec 25 00:00 |
MinceR | i think Maddox is wrong about the prequels | Dec 25 00:00 |
MinceR | especially II and III | Dec 25 00:00 |
vZS1 | GrapheneOS, F-droid and the like are a push against Google play. | Dec 25 00:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Google and Facebook were found to be colluding, surprise surprise. | Dec 25 00:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Getting together to do price fixing on advertisements will be the easiest part of the government's case to prove. | Dec 25 00:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | Largely because they have emails between the two companies agreeing to work together to drive up ad prices. | Dec 25 00:01 |
vZS1 | I think Google are just making desperate moves now | Dec 25 00:01 |
vZS1 | Google hate F-droid | Dec 25 00:01 |
vZS1 | At least we have phones that allow people to put another OS on them. Unlike Apple hardware | Dec 25 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think Microsoft ended up learning their lesson about getting caught with incriminating emails. | Dec 25 00:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | If Obama hadn't appointed Hillary Clinton to be Secretary of State, she would probably be the president right now. | Dec 25 00:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | She didn't really do much as a Senator that was clearly questionable. | Dec 25 00:03 |
vZS1 | The F-Droid selection keeps getting better | Dec 25 00:04 |
vZS1 | Frequently updated for most software as well | Dec 25 00:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: John told me that nobody wanted to put up a picture of Trump in the TSA breakroom. | Dec 25 00:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | Eventually someone did, and it disappeared and got replaced by an empty cheetos bag. | Dec 25 00:05 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 25 00:06 |
MinceR | why would they even consider having one? do they miss the USSR? | Dec 25 00:06 |
XRevan86 | vZS1: Just a modern problem. | Dec 25 00:06 |
XRevan86 | One cannot turn the phone off if the screen is broken. | Dec 25 00:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | You have to put up a picture of the president all over the government offices. | Dec 25 00:07 |
MinceR | "if only we could have a personality cult built around our leader, who is supposed to be an elected representative of the people!" | Dec 25 00:07 |
MinceR | that's a stupid rule | Dec 25 00:07 |
XRevan86 | Batteries are no longer detachable. | Dec 25 00:07 |
MinceR | and they should feel bad about having it | Dec 25 00:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Not as dumb as spending taxpayer money commissioning portraits of all of the department secretaries. | Dec 25 00:08 |
vZS1 | My battery is (: | Dec 25 00:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like anyone cares who the labor secretary was 50 years ago, but there's an official portrait somewhere. | Dec 25 00:08 |
vZS1 | I refuse to buy a phone without a replaceable battery and expandable disk | Dec 25 00:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: There will be an official portrait of Trump in the White House somewhere, but Trump moved the ones of Obama, W, and Clinton where he didn't have to see them. | Dec 25 00:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Trump's is probably going directly into the nearest broom closet. | Dec 25 00:09 |
psydroid | All the batteries in my phones are detachable except the one in this phone, which I was gifted somehow | Dec 25 00:09 |
MinceR | lol | Dec 25 00:09 |
MinceR | it could face the wall in the broom closet | Dec 25 00:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now that we have this policy of shoving them into a broom closet somewhere. | Dec 25 00:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | Maybe they'll have to build more broom closets someday. Who knows. | Dec 25 00:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think the part that really pissed my dad off was going down the list of Trump's accomplishments that have already been thrown out by courts and the ones that Biden says he'll reverse immediately. | Dec 25 00:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | I said, "Trump will be a footnote. So much for being on a mission from God.". | Dec 25 00:11 |
vZS1 | I'm waiting to see how many of them go to prison | Dec 25 00:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | History books will say that for 4 years, this tyrant who was elected by a bunch of Nazis and KKK members who needed their heads examined failed to respond to a plague that was killing his own voters. | Dec 25 00:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | And lost the next election. | Dec 25 00:12 |
MinceR | i'm waiting for Bunker Bitch to go to prison | Dec 25 00:12 |
vZS1 | MinceR: who's that? | Dec 25 00:13 |
MinceR | Cheeto Hitler | Dec 25 00:13 |
vZS1 | Ah | Dec 25 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | The news points it out right now. | Dec 25 00:13 |
vZS1 | It's possible | Dec 25 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | 90% of the people dying are over 60, and 2/3rds of those people are men. | Dec 25 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | So could there be something worse for the Republicans counting on a decent sized base come next election? | Dec 25 00:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Remember that that's two years out and it may have killed well over 1.5 million people before we get a lid on it here. | Dec 25 00:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Trump did better with blacks and latinos this time than he did last time. | Dec 25 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | It was white voters that he lost double digit percentages with. | Dec 25 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | And it was just enough to send him packing. | Dec 25 00:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's warning signs that Florida might go from being a swing state to being lost to the Republican Party, but Arizona and Georgia are now on the map for Democrats. | Dec 25 00:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | So there's still some balance. | Dec 25 00:16 |
vZS1 | https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/freedom-memories-and-campaigning-for-free-software | Dec 25 00:17 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Freedom, memories, and campaigning for free software — Free Software Foundation — Working together for free software | Dec 25 00:17 | |
vZS1 | 12 mentions of apple | Dec 25 00:17 |
vZS1 | Only 1 of Microsoft | Dec 25 00:17 |
vZS1 | 1 mention that is barely even worth mentioning | Dec 25 00:17 |
vZS1 | FSF continue to suck MS phallus | Dec 25 00:18 |
psydroid | Phallophilia | Dec 25 00:21 |
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XRevan86 | vZS1: Good call, yes. | Dec 25 00:32 |
MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVAZwVfjl8o | Dec 25 00:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-[YTP] Pooping the Chartsmas: HappaH HolidildoH! - YouTube | Dec 25 00:33 | |
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MinceR | https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/11/21/bd103390e4d7314e.jpg | Dec 25 01:25 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://amp.thehackernews.com/thn/2020/12/google-discloses-poorly-patched-now.html | Dec 25 02:08 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-amp.thehackernews.com | Google Discloses Poorly-Patched, Now Unpatched, Windows 0-Day Bug | Dec 25 02:08 | |
MinceR | :) | Dec 25 02:10 |
XRevan86 | Another AMP link from DaemonFC | Dec 25 02:10 |
XRevan86 | https://thehackernews.com/2020/12/google-discloses-poorly-patched-now.html | Dec 25 02:10 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thehackernews.com | Google Discloses Poorly-Patched, Now Unpatched, Windows 0-Day Bug | Dec 25 02:10 | |
MinceR | what is AMP? | Dec 25 02:11 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages | Dec 25 02:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Accelerated Mobile Pages - Wikipedia | Dec 25 02:11 | |
MinceR | looks like a mobile page with less crap in it | Dec 25 02:11 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC posts links with AMP frequently. | Dec 25 02:11 |
MinceR | ah, google's latest effort to take over the web | Dec 25 02:11 |
XRevan86 | Well, at least this one is not hosted by Google, so I can forgive that. | Dec 25 02:13 |
smnthermes | > [23:11:54] MinceR: ah, google's latest effort to take over the web | Dec 25 02:14 |
smnthermes | It's already a bit old | Dec 25 02:14 |
MinceR | do they have a newer one? | Dec 25 02:14 |
MinceR | XRevan86: all i see are CrimeFlare addresses | Dec 25 02:15 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Yea, that's what kaker-news uses. | Dec 25 02:15 |
MinceR | :> | Dec 25 02:17 |
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XRevan86 | https://nitter.net/chrisoldwood/status/799015051990437890 the best content | Dec 25 02:38 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.net | Chris Oldwood (@chrisoldwood): "I always prefer my dates to be in ISO format..." | nitter | Dec 25 02:38 | |
XRevan86 | also I hate the fruit name | Dec 25 02:39 |
XRevan86 | Maybe we should just all agree to call them phoeniks or something. | Dec 25 02:41 |
XRevan86 | or phoiniks | Dec 25 02:44 |
MinceR | mmm, phoenix meat | Dec 25 03:01 |
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XRevan86 | Yea, still a collision, but not nearly as significant – the bird doesn't even exist. | Dec 25 03:10 |
schestowitz | [02:15] <XRevan86> MinceR: Yea, that's what kaker-news uses. | Dec 25 03:14 |
schestowitz | kaka-news | Dec 25 03:14 |
schestowitz | [02:11] <XRevan86> DaemonFC posts links with AMP frequently. | Dec 25 03:14 |
schestowitz | he does, I've noticed the same | Dec 25 03:14 |
MinceR | caconews | Dec 25 03:15 |
schestowitz | http://www.acoolthingilearnedtoday.com/kaka-means-poop/ | Dec 25 03:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.acoolthingilearnedtoday.com | Kaka means poop – a cool thing I learned today | Dec 25 03:15 | |
schestowitz | [00:17] <vZS1> Only 1 of Microsoft | Dec 25 03:19 |
schestowitz | mentioning Microsoft is "irrational hatred" now | Dec 25 03:19 |
schestowitz | [22:53] <DaemonFC[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/kji94c/twitter_no_longer_supporting_brave/ | Dec 25 03:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | Twitter no longer supporting Brave? : brave_browser | Dec 25 03:25 | |
schestowitz | see also http://techrights.org/2020/12/16/twitter-in-2020-is-toxic/ | Dec 25 03:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Video: Twitter is Just Social Control Media | Techrights | Dec 25 03:25 | |
schestowitz | dec 16th | Dec 25 03:25 |
schestowitz | https://portswigger.net/daily-swig/cross-layer-attacks-new-hacking-technique-raises-dns-cache-poisoning-user-tracking-risk | Dec 25 03:46 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-portswigger.net | Cross-layer attacks: New hacking technique raises DNS cache poisoning, user tracking risk | The Daily Swig | Dec 25 03:46 | |
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DaemonFC[m] | News that ends up on Google Assistant uses AMP links quite often. | Dec 25 03:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mozilla has laid off over 1,000 people total this year alone, and closed their main office in Mountain View, California. | Dec 25 03:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | They avoided doing it all at once to try not to draw attention. | Dec 25 03:57 |
schestowitz | you use a Google listening device? | Dec 25 03:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | I really do need a different news/search thing on my phone. | Dec 25 04:03 |
schestowitz | they game you | Dec 25 04:04 |
schestowitz | they decide "the news" for you | Dec 25 04:16 |
schestowitz | they eavesdrop | Dec 25 04:16 |
schestowitz | and they keep you enclosed in their servers | Dec 25 04:16 |
schestowitz | by effectively plagiarising actual web sites of people who actually write news | Dec 25 04:16 |
vZS1 | Google "news" is just part of their advertising machine | Dec 25 04:22 |
vZS1 | It's targeted | Dec 25 04:22 |
vZS1 | SvD tailored | Dec 25 04:22 |
vZS1 | s/SvD/And | Dec 25 04:22 |
schestowitz | imperial potentially | Dec 25 04:23 |
schestowitz | they cull out "bad" news sites | Dec 25 04:23 |
schestowitz | like "Chinese propaganda" | Dec 25 04:24 |
schestowitz | and "Russian trolls" | Dec 25 04:24 |
schestowitz | FOX OK | Dec 25 04:24 |
vZS1 | It's like Facebook ads but just on their Android build | Dec 25 04:24 |
schestowitz | not "Russian troll" | Dec 25 04:24 |
schestowitz | as long as it helps Google partners like the Pentagon and Trump | Dec 25 04:24 |
schestowitz | https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FreeBSD-Developing-On-Git | Dec 25 04:25 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-FreeBSD Completes Its Transition From Subversion To Git For Development - Phoronix | Dec 25 04:25 | |
schestowitz | todo: | Dec 25 04:25 |
schestowitz | check if it's locally hosted AND | Dec 25 04:25 |
schestowitz | whether they intend to keep is that way AND | Dec 25 04:25 |
schestowitz | if they will mirror any of this to shiteHub | Dec 25 04:25 |
schestowitz | (And if so, will they allow "bug tracking" (Issues) there or treat is as read-only mirror) | Dec 25 04:26 |
schestowitz | IIRC, it's safe to see freebsd is the most ms-friendly bsd | Dec 25 04:26 |
MinceR | indeed | Dec 25 04:26 |
vZS1 | I'm pretty sure FreeBSD has a GitHub mirror | Dec 25 04:26 |
MinceR | also the most crApple-friendly BSD | Dec 25 04:26 |
schestowitz | and they have no plans in case ms starts charging for shitehub use | Dec 25 04:26 |
schestowitz | never mind spying, censorship etc. | Dec 25 04:26 |
MinceR | it would be fun if they ended up paying microshit for the privilege of having microshit use their code | Dec 25 04:27 |
MinceR | "gratis work just got cheaper!" | Dec 25 04:27 |
vZS1 | FreeBSD use bugzilla | Dec 25 04:29 |
MinceR | one sane choice | Dec 25 04:29 |
vZS1 | And https://cgit-beta.freebsd.org/ | Dec 25 04:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-cgit-beta.freebsd.org | FreeBSD git repositories | Dec 25 04:29 | |
vZS1 | Also have a forum | Dec 25 04:31 |
vZS1 | https://forums.freebsd.org/ | Dec 25 04:31 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-forums.freebsd.org | The FreeBSD Forums | Dec 25 04:31 | |
vZS1 | Their choice of forum is a bit strange | Dec 25 04:32 |
vZS1 | XenForo is proprietary | Dec 25 04:32 |
vZS1 | They could have saved money using something else like phpBB | Dec 25 04:33 |
MinceR | or mailing lists | Dec 25 04:33 |
vZS1 | I think they already have several mailing lists | Dec 25 04:33 |
vZS1 | https://www.freebsd.org/community/mailinglists.html | Dec 25 04:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.freebsd.org | Mailing Lists | Dec 25 04:34 | |
vZS1 | Forums are still a good thing to have. Email is janky and monopolised | Dec 25 04:37 |
schestowitz | Some forum software becomes abandoned | Dec 25 04:38 |
schestowitz | and then new releases of python or php will make it hard to maintain | Dec 25 04:38 |
schestowitz | potential loss of much historical data | Dec 25 04:38 |
vZS1 | Just freeze the build | Dec 25 04:38 |
vZS1 | My main problem with forums is that the popular ones all have terrible automation | Dec 25 04:39 |
vZS1 | Most of them lack APIs altogether | Dec 25 04:40 |
vZS1 | I don't touch things I can't automate, if I can help it | Dec 25 04:40 |
vZS1 | And you should always know how to migrate your data. Don't use a system unless you already have migration tools tested and in place | Dec 25 04:42 |
schestowitz | "each of our Python modules is in its own repository on GitHub" | Dec 25 04:42 |
schestowitz | https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2020/12/24/use-kebechet-machine-learning-to-perform-source-code-operations/ | Dec 25 04:42 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developers.redhat.com | Use Kebechet machine learning to perform source code operations - Red Hat Developer | Dec 25 04:42 | |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-231220.html#tDec%2023%2012:53:51 | Dec 25 06:21 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | IRC: #techrights @ FreeNode: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 | Dec 25 06:21 | |
schestowitz | # spot on | Dec 25 06:21 |
schestowitz | vZS1: that was an associate, directed at your remark | Dec 25 06:22 |
schestowitz | x https://www.ft.com/content/fb20bab6-9135-4ed6-a64e-ade85b0eee18 | Dec 25 06:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ft.com | Subscribe to read | Financial Times | Dec 25 06:33 | |
schestowitz | # paywall | Dec 25 06:33 |
schestowitz | " Voting machine group demands retractions from rightwing media" | Dec 25 06:33 |
schestowitz | As if the Microsoft machines with back doors are phenomenals | Dec 25 06:33 |
schestowitz | now they associate critics with rightwing fanatics | Dec 25 06:33 |
schestowitz | as they probably will again in the future | Dec 25 06:33 |
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schestowitz | x https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9085007/University-Michigan-task-force-claims-words-picnic-brown-bag-blacklist-offensive.html | Dec 25 12:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.dailymail.co.uk | University of Michigan task force claims words 'picnic,' 'brown bag' and 'blacklist' are offensive | Daily Mail Online | Dec 25 12:15 | |
schestowitz | # wasn't that institution once known for research? | Dec 25 12:15 |
vZS1 | schestowitz: could you please remove my nick from that article btw | Dec 25 12:25 |
schestowitz | sure, hang on | Dec 25 12:26 |
vZS1 | Ty | Dec 25 12:26 |
schestowitz | done | Dec 25 12:26 |
vZS1 | Cheers | Dec 25 12:26 |
schestowitz | a video on osi is almost done uploading now | Dec 25 12:26 |
schestowitz | 300+ mb | Dec 25 12:26 |
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schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/why-osi-is-defunct/ | Dec 25 12:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | 2020 is the Year When the Open Source Initiative Became (More Officially) Defunct | Techrights | Dec 25 12:58 | |
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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/8kBFmeo.jpg | Dec 25 14:53 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: They didn't consider cow self-identification. | Dec 25 14:58 |
MinceR | yeah, they just assumed the cow's gender | Dec 25 14:58 |
MinceR | (cat) https://i.imgur.com/vNcjmJu.jpg | Dec 25 14:59 |
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MinceR | https://www.theregister.com/2020/12/11/bofh_2020_episode_9/ | Dec 25 17:16 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.notebookcheck.net/Best-Buy-is-trying-hard-to-get-rid-of-its-4-GB-Microsoft-Surface-Pro-7-stock-for-560-USD.512181.0.html | Dec 25 19:00 |
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DaemonFC[m] | 4 GB in a Windows laptop. Lol | Dec 25 19:00 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-55436883 | Dec 25 19:02 |
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DaemonFC[m] | It's nice to know how you can get a pardon after costing the state hundreds of thousands of dollars responding to a hoax. | Dec 25 19:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://www.huffpost.com/entry/people-explain-why-baked-bread-quarantine_l_5ec73570c5b6698f38f5035c | Dec 25 19:03 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Boredom. | Dec 25 19:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's not terribly difficult to make a loaf of bread in a bread machine. The appliances were all the rage in the US in the 1990s and then people forgot about them and sent them off to the thrift shops. You can still buy them, but you pretty much have to go online, and the mixes they used to sell aren't made anymore so you have to do it from scratch. | Dec 25 19:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Kitchen fads are really bizarre. | Dec 25 19:06 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I miss appliances that didn't want wifi and bluetooth for no reason. | Dec 25 19:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | They have a newer model of my air purifier that uses both so that it can alert you on your phone about air quality and let you adjust the settings over the internet. | Dec 25 19:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now, I suppose the attack possibility against an air purifier is minimal, but this functionality is sort of ridiculous and it won't even work someday because they'll stop maintaining the phone app that controls it. | Dec 25 19:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz The Squeezebox was a great appliance and the control software was open source but nobody is making the hardware and so there's a limited number that still work and few people interested in fixing up the software. | Dec 25 19:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | The software having a Linux port and being open source was almost unheard of at the time they were being marketed by Logitech. | Dec 25 19:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | So few devices having a Linux port or if they did it was like that Avermedia driver that worked on 32-bit Ubuntu 8.04 and nothing else, ever. | Dec 25 19:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm not surprised FreeBSD moved to git. | Dec 25 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | SVN is horrible and always has been for large projects and now that Microsoft has given them cover, who cares about the GPLv2 apparently. | Dec 25 19:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | The BSD projects using CVS and SVN has always led to few people who can commit to the main branch, leaving maybe half a dozen people who can agree to put something into the tree that people are going to use, and oftentimes without proper testing to see if it works okay and how it all fits together. | Dec 25 19:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://attackofthefanboy.com/guides/cyberpunk-2077-update-1-06-patch-notes/ | Dec 25 19:26 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-attackofthefanboy.com | Cyberpunk 2077 Update 1.06 Patch Notes | Attack of the Fanboy | Dec 25 19:26 | |
DaemonFC[m] | A 16.8 GB patch that fixes corrupt save games. Whoa. | Dec 25 19:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/4041257001 | Dec 25 19:35 |
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DaemonFC[m] | This is pretty much what everyone has to go through, especially if they don't have insurance or they don't think it will pay them enough money. | Dec 25 19:36 |
schestowitz | some people are so poor that all they have is AMP :-) | Dec 25 19:37 |
schestowitz | [19:12] <DaemonFC[m]> I miss appliances that didn't want wifi and bluetooth for no reason. | Dec 25 19:39 |
schestowitz | "Smart" | Dec 25 19:39 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's almost like wifi and bluetooth are so ubiquitous that they find out stupid reasons to use it and say their appliance does a bunch of dumb shit and that's why that model costs more. | Dec 25 19:50 |
schestowitz | they're supposed to be selling points and dintuinguishers | Dec 25 19:51 |
schestowitz | I've just said "IoT" is just ipv4 stack thrown on things that don't need it | Dec 25 19:52 |
schestowitz | because you can add these modules for a few extra bucks | Dec 25 19:52 |
schestowitz | and so... you end up with things like scales that connect to your 'phone' | Dec 25 19:52 |
schestowitz | but the use case is unclear | Dec 25 19:52 |
schestowitz | because scales don't really need to do anything but display your weight. that's it. | Dec 25 19:53 |
schestowitz | maybe if they're taken over remoately something will mine bitcoin on them until the battery runs out | Dec 25 19:53 |
schestowitz | and it won't be a standard finger-sized battery | Dec 25 19:53 |
schestowitz | so it'll cost a lot to replace | Dec 25 19:53 |
schestowitz | "IoT" = more ewaste and plastic trash | Dec 25 19:54 |
schestowitz | also more basttery chemicals | Dec 25 19:54 |
XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/v4pVvCQd9iM waste sorting / recycling | Dec 25 20:01 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Раздельный" сбор мусора. 25.12.2020/12:55 Москва, Соловьиный проезд, дом 2. - YouTube | Dec 25 20:01 | |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Work from home hospital people in New York skipped the line in front of ER doctors and nurses to get the limited vaccine supply. | Dec 25 20:30 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Nice to see that the Maricel mentality is everywhere. That's like something she would do. | Dec 25 20:31 |
schestowitz | what vaccine? | Dec 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | I spoke to my dad about it again today | Dec 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | very long chat | Dec 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | he's still refusing to take it for months and even then he says we won't know longterm risks | Dec 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | he spoke about some vetoes from the FDA | Dec 25 20:37 |
schestowitz | they only approved it because "Emergencies" | Dec 25 20:38 |
schestowitz | and the rationalisations typically come from the companies, not researchers | Dec 25 20:38 |
schestowitz | I told him, it's like the "climate change" 'debate' | Dec 25 20:38 |
schestowitz | the oil companies seed doubt | Dec 25 20:38 |
schestowitz | and it looks "reasonable" to then say, "look, we're not sure if this thing is real" | Dec 25 20:38 |
CrystalMath | doubt about what? | Dec 25 20:39 |
CrystalMath | the vaccine's long term risks are truly unknown | Dec 25 20:39 |
schestowitz | "teach the controversy" | Dec 25 20:39 |
CrystalMath | no vaccine should be used the year it was created in | Dec 25 20:39 |
schestowitz | they say they'll modify the recipe to deal with the mutations | Dec 25 20:39 |
schestowitz | without having actually done research into it, let alone bothered to demonstrate efficacy | Dec 25 20:40 |
CrystalMath | absolutely | Dec 25 20:40 |
*schestowitz 's dad is in a vulnerable group, very pro-vaccines (but not THIS one) | Dec 25 20:41 | |
DaemonFC[m] | It came to my attention that I never got vaccinated for Hepatitis A when I was a child because it didn't exist, so I finally got that vaccine this year. | Dec 25 20:42 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's still a problem in the US but not as much of one as it was before the vaccine. About a fifth as many cases as before, even in a much larger population. | Dec 25 20:43 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Opposition to vaccines crosses the political spectrum from right wing nuts who think that Bill Gates is putting the mark of the beast in them to left wing nuts who think chemicals they can't pronounce are poison. | Dec 25 20:45 |
schestowitz | it's a straw man | Dec 25 20:46 |
schestowitz | not right wing | Dec 25 20:46 |
schestowitz | Bill Gates is a nasty malicious person | Dec 25 20:46 |
schestowitz | but he hopes people will think all his critics are those religious conspiracy buffs and nuts | Dec 25 20:47 |
schestowitz | and that might even work, he might pull off this PR campaign | Dec 25 20:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | I think in both cases it represents a generalized anxiety about not fitting into the world as it exists and trying to focus the anxiety on a particular thing that they can comprehend. | Dec 25 20:47 |
schestowitz | they also generalike all vaccinations | Dec 25 20:47 |
schestowitz | some conflate different criticisms | Dec 25 20:47 |
schestowitz | e.g. monopoly/patents aspects, efficacy, safety... | Dec 25 20:48 |
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schestowitz | either way, the oligarchy knows its days may be numbered | Dec 25 20:48 |
schestowitz | maybe a decade | Dec 25 20:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | I didn't have any significant side effects to the Havrix shots. A little fatigue and sore arm. | Dec 25 20:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a damned sight better than Hepatitis A. | Dec 25 20:48 |
schestowitz | many unemployed people look for revenge and people to blame | Dec 25 20:48 |
schestowitz | oligarchs hope they can blame "wimen" and "Latinos" and "blacks" | Dec 25 20:49 |
schestowitz | but too many realise who the real looters are | Dec 25 20:49 |
schestowitz | the media fuels race division | Dec 25 20:49 |
schestowitz | instead of class paradigm | Dec 25 20:49 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: Hepa isn't common in the West, not anymore anyway | Dec 25 20:50 |
schestowitz | but administering it to everyone helps keep it that way... same with dogs and rabies | Dec 25 20:50 |
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MinceR | https://www.madmagazine.com/sites/default/files/imce/2014/12-DEC/Don-Martin_The-Moving-Men_5494baa3c58f59.78177528.jpg | Dec 25 21:04 |
XRevan86 | https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/wimen#English it's legit, by the way | Dec 25 21:11 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wiktionary.org | wimen - Wiktionary | Dec 25 21:11 | |
schestowitz | I know | Dec 25 21:14 |
schestowitz | the anti-women crown misuses the term | Dec 25 21:15 |
schestowitz | something about them not being "real women" | Dec 25 21:15 |
schestowitz | I am no expert in their 'grievances', but I saw some lousy arguments they make about women | Dec 25 21:15 |
schestowitz | they usually really hate #meToo as well | Dec 25 21:15 |
schestowitz | /s/crown/crowd/ | Dec 25 21:16 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: they now use women and "THE ARMY" for vaccine prodding https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/2020-12-16-covid-live-updates-vaccine-news-n1251352/ncrd1251445 | Dec 25 21:28 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Linux Foundation, Covid-19 Credentials Initiative to merge efforts on digital vaccine cards | Dec 25 21:28 | |
schestowitz | more of the "X says" reporting | Dec 25 21:28 |
schestowitz | LF makes "LINUX" be lumped into it | Dec 25 21:29 |
schestowitz | surveillance push | Dec 25 21:29 |
schestowitz | nothing to do with vaccination | Dec 25 21:29 |
schestowitz | https://danielpocock.com/christmas-gift-for-british-friends/ | Dec 25 21:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | A Christmas Gift for British friends | Dec 25 21:34 | |
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MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/720687.jpg | Dec 25 21:45 |
vZS1 | I spoke to a friend of mine in Canada | Dec 25 21:47 |
vZS1 | She and her family are all not going to take part in the Pfizer experiment | Dec 25 21:48 |
vZS1 | She told me she doesn't trust Gates nor Buffet and their agenda | Dec 25 21:48 |
schestowitz | seems to be common a sentiment | Dec 25 21:49 |
vZS1 | That was refreshing | Dec 25 21:49 |
schestowitz | my mom watches TV and stuff too much | Dec 25 21:49 |
schestowitz | so she plans to participate | Dec 25 21:49 |
schestowitz | many assume "worst that can happen" is, "it won't work" | Dec 25 21:50 |
schestowitz | never mind potential effects when they add another doze and another doze | Dec 25 21:50 |
schestowitz | and "boosters" | Dec 25 21:50 |
schestowitz | to make it "effective" | Dec 25 21:50 |
schestowitz | and never mind the injustice of being part of clinical trials for private corporate profits | Dec 25 21:50 |
schestowitz | in another country | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | social control media will be misused to silence dissent to this | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | and to flag it "right wing" and "antivaxx" and whatnot | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | as if to use secret data about an expedited product is absolutely fine | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | to ask questions is now | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | *not | Dec 25 21:51 |
schestowitz | https://www.trentonian.com/arts_and_entertainment/entertainment/tom-hanks-would-get-coronavirus-vaccine-to-prove-its-safe/article_2ad201f1-db0b-5d94-bf70-a3d709f6f0e2.html | Dec 25 21:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tom Hanks would get coronavirus vaccine to prove it's safe | Entertainment | trentonian.com | Dec 25 21:53 | |
schestowitz | "celeb endorsement" | Dec 25 21:54 |
schestowitz | from PROFESSOR HANKS | Dec 25 21:54 |
schestowitz | "PROVE it's safe" | Dec 25 21:54 |
schestowitz | site blocked in the EU | Dec 25 21:54 |
schestowitz | it's an oligarchs-owned spying-as-site | Dec 25 21:54 |
MinceR | ooh, the classic sample size of 1 | Dec 25 21:54 |
schestowitz | glorified sample | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | PROFESSOR HANKS | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | and Bush | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | OBOMBA | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | all the good folks | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | Billy Goat | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | Crime Minister Netanyahu | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | "Royals" | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | Maybe Kissinger will get one too soon | Dec 25 21:55 |
schestowitz | "jab" that jabber | Dec 25 21:56 |
schestowitz | Pfizer: we gave you hardons, now we give you war criminals as "live TV" ads | Dec 25 21:56 |
schestowitz | https://www.pottsmerc.com/arts_and_entertainment/entertainment/sir-cliff-richard-will-never-get-over-the-trauma-of-police-raid/article_5c27e0ca-0a29-550b-8a01-88bdfd4155ce.html | Dec 25 21:57 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Sir Cliff Richard will never get over the trauma of police raid | Entertainment | pottsmerc.com | Dec 25 21:57 | |
schestowitz | 'news' | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | about a "feeling" | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | next in line" | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | "bill gates says" | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | "Tump tweets" | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | [21:54] <MinceR> ooh, the classic sample size of 1 | Dec 25 21:57 |
schestowitz | "ma uncle smoked and lived to be 90" | Dec 25 21:57 |
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schestowitz | vZS1: | Dec 25 22:13 |
schestowitz | 'It takes 20 years to build a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. If you think about that, you`ll do things differently. | Dec 25 22:13 |
schestowitz | Warren Buffett | Dec 25 22:13 |
schestowitz | "There’s been class warfare for the last 20 years, and my class has won." Warren Buffett | Dec 25 22:14 |
schestowitz | I think they lose the PR war | Dec 25 22:14 |
schestowitz | judging by online reactions | Dec 25 22:14 |
schestowitz | not the paid-for puff pieces in oligarchs-owned media | Dec 25 22:14 |
schestowitz | "However, the Gates Buffet foundation grant is nothing more than a shell game in which control of assets for both Gates and Buffet remain the same." http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0823-26.htm | Dec 25 22:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- ( status 404 @ https://www.commondreams.org/views06/0823-26.htm ) | Dec 25 22:15 | |
schestowitz | https://www.pambazuka.org/pan-africanism/gates-and-buffet-foundation-shell-game | Dec 25 22:16 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.pambazuka.org | The Gates and Buffet Foundation Shell Game | Pambazuka News | Dec 25 22:16 | |
schestowitz | this is the THIRD URL I use | Dec 25 22:16 |
schestowitz | the first two perished | Dec 25 22:16 |
schestowitz | really bad | Dec 25 22:16 |
schestowitz | and this is the only copy I can still find online | Dec 25 22:16 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Fox News still grousing about Trump being on the way out. | Dec 25 22:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | They're fighting for viewers and ad dollars with not one, but two, networks that are vying for viewers who are even dumber than the ones that watch Fox News routinely. | Dec 25 22:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | The best as spend is on dumb people. | Dec 25 22:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can sell them a lifestyle and all kinds of fraudulent products. | Dec 25 22:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | *ad | Dec 25 22:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | What's going on now is that the economy breaks down because the system is trying to supply too much into a system where people would buy it if they could, but few can. | Dec 25 22:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | The intelligent thing to do would be to stop the wars and pay an annual peace dividend directly into people's bank accounts. | Dec 25 22:38 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: yes | Dec 25 23:14 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: let me find you a film on consumerism | Dec 25 23:14 |
schestowitz | when the "plebs" could not be appeased | Dec 25 23:14 |
schestowitz | so the media trained them to become shoppers | Dec 25 23:14 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: here, found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnPmg0R1M04 | Dec 25 23:15 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-The Century of the Self - Part 1: "Happiness Machines" - YouTube | Dec 25 23:15 | |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8CCC/production/_116244063_optimised-only_new_tiers_23dec-nc.png | Dec 25 23:22 |
schestowitz | vZS1: maybe your prediction will become true | Dec 25 23:22 |
schestowitz | a tad belatedly | Dec 25 23:22 |
schestowitz | taking this nationwide | Dec 25 23:22 |
vZS1 | Lol | Dec 25 23:23 |
vZS1 | They're getting pretty obvious now | Dec 25 23:23 |
schestowitz | STAY AT HOME!! | Dec 25 23:23 |
schestowitz | buhhhhh. maaah dog | Dec 25 23:24 |
schestowitz | "fuck yo dawn... eat it!" | Dec 25 23:24 |
schestowitz | *dawg | Dec 25 23:24 |
schestowitz | vZS1: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/bbc-boris.jpg | Dec 25 23:24 |
schestowitz | vZS1: dec 8th http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Stay-indoors-motherfu.jpg | Dec 25 23:25 |
schestowitz | Significant Normalcy is “STAY HOME!” (or Else!) | Dec 25 23:26 |
schestowitz | vZS1: http://techrights.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/stay-home.jpg | Dec 25 23:31 |
schestowitz | wanna proofread the poem? | Dec 25 23:31 |
vZS1 | Eyes are tired | Dec 25 23:32 |
vZS1 | Pass from me | Dec 25 23:32 |
schestowitz | it's done now anyway, very short http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/stay-home/ | Dec 25 23:34 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Significant Normalcy is “STAY HOME!” (or Else!) | Techrights | Dec 25 23:34 | |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz Like that two part Voyager episode Year of Hell. | Dec 25 23:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Only without the reset from destroying the time ship. | Dec 25 23:38 |
schestowitz | check out http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/stay-home/ | Dec 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | Trump in there | Dec 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | I think it gets the point across | Dec 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19740862 | Dec 25 23:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: Significant Normalcy/Normality is “STAY HOME!” (or Else!) http://techrights.org/2020/12/25/stay-home/ #uk #covid19 #martialLaw (de facto) #curfew #xmas | Dec 25 23:39 | |
schestowitz | in 15 minutes from now half the English population CANNOT LEAVE THE HOME! | Dec 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | Groceries? Not sure how that would work... | Dec 25 23:39 |
schestowitz | what next? rationing next year after "hard brexit"? | Dec 25 23:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | The genius who engineered hard brexit during a pandemic recession. | Dec 25 23:45 |
schestowitz | yup | Dec 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | rationing might be next | Dec 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | like post-ww2 | Dec 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | same tricks | Dec 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | let's all buckle up | Dec 25 23:47 |
schestowitz | and suffer together | Dec 25 23:48 |
schestowitz | "the country and queen" | Dec 25 23:48 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: "recession" is an understatement | Dec 25 23:49 |
schestowitz | more like collapse | Dec 25 23:49 |
schestowitz | or borderline depression | Dec 25 23:49 |
schestowitz | many people are out of work or barely work | Dec 25 23:50 |
schestowitz | without sign of resumption and no prospects for any job applicants, no matter how experienced | Dec 25 23:50 |
schestowitz | Hours old, in Planet Fedora also: Daniel Pocock: A Christmas Gift for British friends https://danielpocock.com/christmas-gift-for-british-friends/ | Dec 25 23:50 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-danielpocock.com | A Christmas Gift for British friends | Dec 25 23:50 |
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