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schestowitzwhat does this 5g thing say?May 28 00:01
schestowitzmany legit issues with 5gMay 28 00:01
schestowitzor about itMay 28 00:01
schestowitzbut none of them related to some k00ky claimsMay 28 00:01
schestowitzit's a patent evergreening ployMay 28 00:01
schestowitzpure hypeMay 28 00:01
schestowitzsubject of china red-baitingMay 28 00:02
schestowitzthreat to weather radars/satelliteMay 28 00:02
schestowitzeven potential carcinogenMay 28 00:02
schestowitzbut nothing too unique to surveillance compared to predecessors...May 28 00:02
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schestowitznor related in any way to epidimologyMay 28 00:03
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schestowitzYou often have to wonder ifMay 28 00:06
schestowitz1) this is real criticismMay 28 00:06
schestowitz2) whether it's backed if not funded by the subject of criticismMay 28 00:07
schestowitzthe whole criticism of 5g has been turned into this cartoonish image of vandals attacking towers over "COVID"May 28 00:07
schestowitznow the MSM, which was paid to do lots of astroturfing and BS to promote 5G, immediately mocks any critics of 5G as lunaticsMay 28 00:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.6.15, 5.4.43, 4.19.125, 4.14.182, 4.9.225, and 4.4.225 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138105 [https://pleroma.site/objects/939a797f-402f-4904-9df3-6b880a4d95f9]May 28 00:12
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Why snap and flatpak are so important to Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138106 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b809c700-03e7-40aa-9e50-3b0b3812518b]May 28 00:14
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EPaper Tablet Gets Desktop Linux Install http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138107 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f2f7561-4f6d-4567-872f-c4755d6a661a]May 28 00:16
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138108 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4dd9f1ac-c0dd-445e-9c28-e2f756cbf17a]May 28 00:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Librem 5 Timeline Recap http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138109 [https://pleroma.site/objects/0029d2ab-b6c2-4371-94a7-7de9c45cfbee]May 28 00:18
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: POP!_OS Delivers Outstanding GNOME Experience http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138110 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1d9c469b-28eb-4e21-8860-4b394959cf6a]May 28 00:19
schestowitz {Disarmed} Re: URGENT - Your Amazon EC2 Abuse Report May 28 00:48
schestowitzI wonder if this might be related to recent changes rather than a longstanding issue. I am guessing that security settings (e.g. limiting access on particular ports) for that instance alone can fix this rather than instance-level (in the VM) configs or software updates. No reason why the outside world should query it for DNS lookups. Or for DNS requests to be processed at all. Or maybe I misunderstood the nature of this weakness.May 28 00:48
schestowitzAs a side note, in the past I came under DDOS attacks from AWS instances...May 28 00:48
schestowitzA client of ours is using AWSMay 28 00:48
schestowitzand leaving DNS exposedMay 28 00:49
schestowitzridicilousMay 28 00:49
schestowitzridiculousMay 28 00:49
schestowitzstupid clown computing hypeMay 28 00:49
schestowitzand then your "host"(Bezos) has expectationsMay 28 00:49
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DaemonFC[m]You know, people are fucking stupid.May 28 01:34
DaemonFC[m]Every time you think we've hit bottom, it gets worse.May 28 01:34
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schestowitzwhat is it now?May 28 01:39
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proxmox VE 6 and later offers container features, better security http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138111 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c2856ce6-62fc-4b2d-99a3-4a7ffa38e922]May 28 02:06
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: OpenSSH Will Deprecate SHA-1 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138095#comment-25210 [https://pleroma.site/objects/9971722d-4513-4e58-bb7b-4d639ce6146e]May 28 02:15
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Games: Proton and New Games for GNU/Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138113 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7f04ec1b-0ba2-4f70-96eb-b1911a82a79d]May 28 02:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: AMD Energy Driver, Security Features and Statsfs http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138114 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6000bf1a-2468-42aa-a889-6d6d218cae13]May 28 02:26
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Security Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138115 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dcd583fa-059e-4701-8cfc-f0ccbd522d72]May 28 02:29
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dabblerdudeHello, I have a 2009 Macbook Pro running Linux Mint 19.3. I can't turn up or down the display's brightness on it. May 28 02:35
dabblerdudeIt's running an Nvidia Geforce 9400M on it.May 28 02:35
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schestowitzhi, dabblerdudeMay 28 02:43
schestowitzwhy ask support questions here?May 28 02:43
dabblerdudeHi schestowitz.May 28 02:43
dabblerdudeCause this is a tech channel.May 28 02:44
schestowitzheh, well...May 28 02:44
dabblerdude#techrights.May 28 02:44
schestowitznot technical supportMay 28 02:44
dabblerdudeLol. Sorry about that.May 28 02:44
schestowitzbut brightness is a physical thingMay 28 02:44
dabblerdudeWhat's this channel for then?May 28 02:44
schestowitzmaybe try keyboard shortcuts firstMay 28 02:44
schestowitzfailing that, check the GUI, systemsettings etc.May 28 02:44
schestowitzTechrights is about digital/tech rights/freedomMay 28 02:45
schestowitzbtw, if the laptop is old, maybe the backlight is knackeredMay 28 02:45
schestowitzI recently retired a PC from 2009May 28 02:45
schestowitzthe screen was getting dimmer over time until it stopped workingMay 28 02:46
schestowitzso no point trying hard to force it to be brighter like it used to beMay 28 02:46
schestowitzone of my old (2011) monitor is already getting quite dimmed down, harder to see in daytimeMay 28 02:46
cubexyzthe old CRTs had a knob for brightnessMay 28 02:46
schestowitzso maybe your brightness is already maxed, but it seems dimmed down due to ageMay 28 02:46
schestowitzcubexyz: yes, but they too lose brightness over timeMay 28 02:47
cubexyzyesMay 28 02:47
schestowitzafter about 14 years of my large Dell CRT it was becoming barely visible, even with max brightnessMay 28 02:47
cubexyzha, interestingMay 28 02:47
schestowitzI had to tinker with contrast just to keep it almost usableMay 28 02:47
cubexyzthis CRT is 24 years old nowMay 28 02:47
schestowitzone day it just 'exploded' and stopped working, I wouldn't dare plug it to the socket againMay 28 02:48
cubexyzLCD's can last longer than 14 yearsMay 28 02:49
dabblerdudeLCD's can lose the ability to adjust to different brightness levels?May 28 02:50
cubexyzit's the inverter that usually goesMay 28 02:51
cubexyzreplace that... and who knows how long it will lastMay 28 02:51
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Android Mirroring App ‘Scrcpy’ Just Added a Bunch of New Features http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138117 [https://pleroma.site/objects/3c7cb293-4e47-4a5c-80aa-ccd22eb1db64]May 28 02:52
cubexyzcheck xrandr I bet there's a way to make it brighterMay 28 02:52
cubexyzxrandr --output eDP-1 --brigtness 0.5May 28 02:56
cubexyztry xrandr --verbose and see what it saysMay 28 02:56
cubexyzok,  xrandr --output DVI-1 --brightness 0.5 works for meMay 28 02:58
cubexyzlook for the connected primary displayMay 28 02:59
cubexyzso --brightness 1.0 may be the maximumMay 28 02:59
cubexyzmmmm, no it can go higherMay 28 03:00
cubexyzyou'll have to experiment with itMay 28 03:00
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linux #Kodachi 7.0 Security-Focused OS Moves to Linux 5.4, Based on Xubuntu 18.04 LTS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138044#comment-25212 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b4b7495c-0bca-4045-bcd9-a0384f5cdfec]May 28 03:01
dabblerdudeI'll try out xrandr.May 28 03:04
dabblerdudeThank you.May 28 03:04
cubexyznpMay 28 03:05
dabblerdudeI gotta head off now, I'll see ya guys later!May 28 03:05
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cybrNautArizona sues Google for illegal non-consentual tracking through Androids => http://web.archivecrfip2lpi.onion/web/20200528020047/https://www.theverge.com/2020/5/27/21272625/arizona-ag-sues-google-location-tracking-android-allegationsMay 28 03:09
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-web.archivecrfip2lpi.onion | NO TITLEMay 28 03:09
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: mesa 20.1.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138118 [https://pleroma.site/objects/eac07c73-72f7-4db7-b15e-f49489232b2b]May 28 03:11
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 32 Elections http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138119 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cb95f58c-4223-408e-82bf-b2101c2f3b60]May 28 03:17
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Python Programming http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138120 [https://pleroma.site/objects/525f11d4-8d7f-4ca7-9541-6bae13987e55]May 28 03:25
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Audiocasts/Shows: Ubuntu Podcast, FLOSS Weekly, Linux Headlines http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138121 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d7546740-39de-4be6-aa78-631f7aaeb9fe]May 28 03:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IBM/Red Hat Leftovers http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138122 [https://pleroma.site/objects/94de8d56-0dc7-43eb-9fd8-50bb4935760f]May 28 03:30
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Kernel: AMD, Google and OSPM http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138123 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b8d17625-e676-4330-96de-75b7ea2d355b]May 28 03:36
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Canonical Continues to Help Promote Windows Instead of GNU/Linux or Ubuntu http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/canonical-helps-microsoft/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/fb633143-3684-448a-9f10-9a38125a92a7]May 28 04:38
schestowitzcybrNaut: good, now sue others that do the same and worseMay 28 04:53
schestowitzgoogle is a big oneMay 28 04:53
schestowitzAZ might be motivated to pick particularly on this company and not othersMay 28 04:54
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schestowitzTechrights source: "I'm going to have to let the ransomware story go for a while.  I don't have the time and it is dangerous.  I imagine my communications are monitored both at work and at home and that even encrypted email with you is dangerous.  "May 28 04:58
schestowitzwe use encryption anywayMay 28 04:58
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DaemonFC[m]Ubuntu is not a great distribution.May 28 05:26
DaemonFC[m]I plan to just keep using Fedora.May 28 05:26
DaemonFC[m]No real reason to switch. I gave up when Ubuntu brought in that train wreck, Unity.May 28 05:27
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #ZDNet Proves Our Point by Doing Not a Single Article About #Linux (RC7), Only About Linus and #Windows Clickbait Junk http://techrights.org/2020/05/27/zdnet-is-gossip-tabloid/ http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet#2020 [https://pleroma.site/objects/09b45899-4ead-4684-ac2e-725337860aad]May 28 05:28
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: they're on gnome nowMay 28 05:28
schestowitzled by ibm/rhMay 28 05:28
DaemonFC[m]They've probably managed to fuck it up somehow.May 28 05:29
DaemonFC[m]Their patches are so bad it may as well be Windows almost.May 28 05:29
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DaemonFC[m]schestowitz: When I heard that Ubuntu dropped Unity and there were 170-some patches to GNOME that they were backing out, I laughed.May 28 07:16
DaemonFC[m]They actually broke GNOME Shell if you were using it.May 28 07:16
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psydreadUbuntu has actually been breaking stuff that works on Debian during the past few releases and I don't know if that was intentional or sheer incompetenceMay 28 08:17
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psydreadthe last few remaining installs I've done for relatives will be gone during the next refreshMay 28 08:28
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schestowitzand what instead?May 28 09:15
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oiaohmpsydread: I would say sheer incompetence.   Wine project started building their own packages a long time ago because particular distributions would apply patches to their builds and not turn the test suite to work out if they had screwed it up or not.May 28 10:05
oiaohmpsydread: and ubuntu was one of those.May 28 10:05
psydreadprobably Debian, which I use and which has been working well for me for the past few yearsMay 28 10:06
psydreadI haven't evaluated Fedora in a long timeMay 28 10:08
schestowitzour main OS at home is Debian BusterMay 28 11:10
schestowitzone single downside is, the repos lack some cutting-edge stuff; it just hasn't been properly packaged yetMay 28 11:11
schestowitzsome rather important software still not available...May 28 11:11
schestowitzbut at least it is solid as it is and I won't be forced to upgrade for security reasons for like half a decade to comeMay 28 11:11
schestowitzupgrading things means things change... all sorts of small thingsMay 28 11:12
schestowitzand adaptation can cost you days....May 28 11:12
schestowitzchanging code, changing habits...May 28 11:12
schestowitzRianne also uses it, with lots of stuff on top of it... it was actually her laptop that had it first... testing the waterMay 28 11:13
schestowitzDaemonFC[m]: GNOME Shell is too simple for some tasksMay 28 11:14
schestowitzit has plugins, I know, but some aren't advanced enough. It's probably good for most people, but I'd miss particular things I diMay 28 11:14
schestowitz*doMay 28 11:14
schestowitzfor instance, I have dialogue set up open on ctrl+alt+9 to bring up konqueror with 3 different windows, than each window will be resized and put in particular placesMay 28 11:15
schestowitzkde makes window management rules quite simple, even with a gui for it (I'm sure there's some x/cli interface for that too)May 28 11:15
psydreadI upgrade once every 2 years, but I agree Stretch was already pretty solid and Buster even moreMay 28 11:38
psydreadI hadn't really used Debian beforeMay 28 11:38
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MinceRhttps://www.bbc.com/news/business-52815872May 28 12:13
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Trump to 'sign executive order about social media' - BBC NewsMay 28 12:13
schestowitzfailed stateMay 28 12:57
MinceRindeedMay 28 12:58
oiaohmhttps://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/8gb-raspberry-pi-4-on-sale-now-at-75/ Hmm this is getting more interesting 8G model with work on booting from usb media May 28 12:58
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.raspberrypi.org | 8GB Raspberry Pi 4 on sale now at $75 - Raspberry PiMay 28 12:58
MinceR(audio:important) https://vid.pr0gramm.com/2020/04/30/23e35e4b6f2ef902.mp4May 28 13:09
schestowitzwth?May 28 13:20
MinceRmusic made with those 3 noises shown at the beginning :)May 28 13:21
MinceR(though not exclusively)May 28 13:21
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Linus Torvalds Reveals Everything About His New Linux Computer System http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/137987#comment-25217 [https://pleroma.site/objects/000ad56f-9cc7-4782-a6ea-637b818e7891]May 28 13:27
oiaohmMinceR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRUdvu3Qo-E  listerning to that music reminded me of tap dogs.May 28 13:31
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Tap Dogs I Beams - YouTubeMay 28 13:31
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MinceR:)May 28 13:38
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: What Is Flatpak And How To Install Flatpak Apps On Ubuntu And Other Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138132 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c3a23ed4-56ca-4895-adf0-3c98990b9f49]May 28 13:42
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Reduce Reloading Download Size on Ubuntu http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138127 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c93f2dd7-13ab-4fb3-aeeb-e2d80c723e13]May 28 13:51
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Top Most Popular Linux Distributions of 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138124 [https://pleroma.site/objects/78a0b6d6-dbfc-4693-95df-898c389c427e]May 28 13:54
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MinceRhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY3jNEyWoAAgf_O?format=jpg&name=origMay 28 14:53
XRevan86MinceR: Looks like something he would've wrote %).May 28 14:58
XRevan86MinceR: But that "← 2009" is trying extra hard to present this as a real thing, and evidently, it is not.May 28 15:00
MinceRhow can you tell?May 28 15:01
XRevan86MinceR: For one thing, it doesn't fit into 140 characters.May 28 15:02
MinceR:>May 28 15:02
MinceRi thought they extended it ages agoMay 28 15:02
XRevan86No, just in 2017May 28 15:03
MinceR(cat) https://i.imgur.com/QUcD3DF.jpgMay 28 15:12
XRevan86Why make fake Trump posts though, as if the real Donald Trump is not enough to satisfy every need.May 28 15:14
MinceR¯\_(ツ)_/¯May 28 15:14
MinceRmaybe the originals weren't thematical enoughMay 28 15:14
XRevan86https://smbc-comics.com/comic/actuallyMay 28 15:18
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - ActuallyMay 28 15:18
XRevan86> with a weak immune system or an illness or disease, your dog could potentially produce less vitamin C than they need.May 28 15:20
XRevan86SMBC, you lie!May 28 15:20
XRevan86Ugh, one has to double-check everything these days.May 28 15:20
MinceR:>May 28 15:20
MinceRextracting vitamin C sounds interesting thoughMay 28 15:21
MinceRmaybe dogs could finally become usefulMay 28 15:22
XRevan86Overly expensive.May 28 15:22
XRevan86Vitamin C is very easy to find without any dogs.May 28 15:22
MinceRso much for dogs becoming usefulMay 28 15:22
XRevan86There's research in training dogs to smell COVID-19 infected people.May 28 15:23
XRevan86That could be useful.May 28 15:23
MinceRis it specified that they should tell them apart from uninfected people? :>May 28 15:24
XRevan86https://washingtonpost.com/science/2020/04/29/coronavirus-detection-dogs/May 28 15:26
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.washingtonpost.com | Dogs are being trained to sniff out coronavirus cases - The Washington PostMay 28 15:26
insmodppaOfftopic: Old CRTs dimming: Helps to open the cover and blow out the dust. Also watch for "quirks": The monitor I'm using has a warped back cover due to almost 24/7 use for 20 years that causes blurring and dimming when screwed in tight.May 28 15:57
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MinceR(cat) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZGdBh-WAAUSErK?format=jpg&name=origMay 28 17:05
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Raspberry Pi 4 gains 8GB RAM version and 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS https://linuxhandbook.com/xargs-command/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/910cac2c-792f-4178-804c-885deba7a7dc]May 28 17:22
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #RaspberryPi 4 gains 8GB RAM version and 64-bit Raspberry Pi OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138128#comment-25224 #gnu #linux [https://pleroma.site/objects/86275b3e-002e-469e-8c1c-2bb014ba8b4a]May 28 17:24
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schestowitz[15:26] [Notice] -TechrightsBot-tr to #techrights- www.washingtonpost.com | Dogs are being trained to sniff out coronavirus cases - The Washington PostMay 28 17:36
schestowitzDogs are magical animalsMay 28 17:36
schestowitzthey tell us they can also sniff out drugsMay 28 17:36
schestowitz(and later admit they sometimes find some food; but it's all down to fakes and leading passengers to merely THINKING it works)May 28 17:36
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XRevan86(ah, the way polygraph "works")May 28 17:37
schestowitzyesMay 28 17:37
schestowitzexactlyMay 28 17:37
schestowitzother examples tooMay 28 17:37
schestowitzcan't remember those offhandMay 28 17:37
schestowitzthe idea is that of deterrenceMay 28 17:37
schestowitzwe have this 'expert' dog right hereMay 28 17:37
schestowitzso you DEFINITELY do NOT want to walk off with some drugs, declare now or don't even think about packing them inMay 28 17:38
schestowitzthe media participates in the propaganda that say these wordMay 28 17:38
schestowitzlike all those "good cop" TV showsMay 28 17:38
schestowitz*these workMay 28 17:38
MinceRgot to condition the peons to perfect obedienceMay 28 17:39
MinceRotherwise how could a few sociopaths maintain a hell on earth for billions?May 28 17:39
schestowitzsurveillance is similar btwMay 28 17:39
schestowitzadvertisers fool the clientsMay 28 17:39
schestowitzthinking all this behavrioural thing worksMay 28 17:39
schestowitzand that they know what you want to buy nextMay 28 17:40
schestowitzthis has been debunked, but their massive industry keeps pushing the lie fiercelyMay 28 17:40
schestowitzsurveillance sniffing out terrorists assume those terrorists act normal when observed online and offlineMay 28 17:40
schestowitz(and don';t hide)May 28 17:40
schestowitzso in reality you sniff out people maybe for tax issues, not much bigger thingsMay 28 17:41
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: KDE Applications, Wireshark, IceWM update in Tumbleweed http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138138 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b916e6ee-eb5b-40d0-b712-5e512db3bf02]May 28 18:08
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Apache Subversion 1.14.0 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138139 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b4dff6bc-5002-4289-b801-0643ba3da007]May 28 18:35
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/christmas-spiritMay 28 18:53
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Christmas SpiritMay 28 18:53
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: ZFS focus on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS: ZSys general principle on state management http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138140 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d7f98291-0738-4641-9632-44ca82d63842]May 28 18:59
oiaohmschestowitz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictive_analytics   There has been a lot of study into Predictive analytics.    Cross selling has been done for a long time.   Behavrioural thing kind of works.  But its still very much like trying to predict next days weather by only using one locations data.May 28 19:01
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Predictive analytics - WikipediaMay 28 19:01
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-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Happy birthday Audacity: 20 years http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138142 [https://pleroma.site/objects/5ea1e878-1255-4416-aaae-2d1f9de7a345]May 28 19:03
oiaohmschestowitz: it does not appear that collecting and processing more data makes behavioural model work better that true.  It does seam to level off with factors that no matter how much data you collect you are not going to have.May 28 19:03
oiaohmLike collecting data on-line is not going to predict when a person going to kick their toe on some thing and put head though  wall and need to fix it.   Ok might be able to predict if that person is the kind that fixes it themselves or contracts out.May 28 19:04
-viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Best Audacity Alternatives for Audio Recording and Editing http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/138142#comment-25229 [https://pleroma.site/objects/dda6f0bf-deb3-4f89-a836-8db704dc7fb2]May 28 19:05
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MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/consciousMay 28 20:51
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - ConsciousMay 28 20:51
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DaemonFC[m]The first bankruptcy notice I got was a letter from a used car dealer saying they finance people who are in bankruptcy.May 28 22:18
DaemonFC[m]They move faster than the court...... smhMay 28 22:18
DaemonFC[m]I'm guessing that they have a PACER account and just send junk mail to everyone who filed bankruptcy that morning.May 28 22:18
DaemonFC[m]So I must be protected by the automatic stay right now.May 28 22:19
DaemonFC[m]The credit card people will be breaking the law if they take any action against me, including making phone calls and sending letters.May 28 22:20
DaemonFC[m]They're also prohibited from filing any lawsuits against me.May 28 22:20
DaemonFC[m]It's a tremendous relief. Nobody ever wants to file bankruptcy, but when the alternative is to have tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt you can't pay that someone will get around to suing you for, it's not the worst option.May 28 22:21
DaemonFC[m]My mom said there would have been no point in filing Chapter 13 for her. She quit working overtime and took some unpaid days off to get herself under the income threshold for a Chapter 7.May 28 22:22
DaemonFC[m]It was cheaper to earn less money for a while than to have people suing her abd trying to garnish her paycheck.May 28 22:22
DaemonFC[m]Well, it's logical. She was buried alive under an $80,000 mortgage that her ex died and willed the house to his wife. That was just the beginning.May 28 22:23
DaemonFC[m]She didn't have any credit cards, but she was ubderwater on a car loan on a car that was breaking down a lot. So it got her out of thatMay 28 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Then it ripped up $12,000 in back taxes to the IRS and state.May 28 22:24
DaemonFC[m]And $70,000 in medical bills for a hospital stay due to gallstones.May 28 22:24
DaemonFC[m]Then it ripped up an apartment lease that she had to break 8 months early because new management came in and turned it from a quiet apartment complex for seniors to a roach motel for junkie trash.May 28 22:26
MinceRhttps://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/154660969420190104after.pngMay 28 22:26
DaemonFC[m]I'm asking the court to rip up 5 credit cards, 17 medical bills, two leases that I had to break early, a car loan that is not only severely underwater but which my ex has and I don't even know where it's at, an old cell phone bill from AT&T, and some other stuff.May 28 22:28
DaemonFC[m]The active debt is about $68,000 and the active plus zombie debt is well over $100,000.May 28 22:29
DaemonFC[m]You throw in the zombie debt for many reasons.May 28 22:30
DaemonFC[m]It gives your active creditors less incentive to try to object because if the trustee took anything, it would mean less money for them. So if you owe someone $10 from 15 years ago, you throw it in.May 28 22:31
DaemonFC[m]It also makes it illegal for them to try to sell it to junk debt collectors who find you and send you scary letters to trick you into reaffirming the debt.May 28 22:32
DaemonFC[m]For most of my life I just got away with walking away from my bills without filing bankruptcy because I was judgment proof.May 28 22:33
DaemonFC[m]Many medical debt collectors don't even bother putting anything on your credit report. It's nuts.May 28 22:34
DaemonFC[m]The new FICO models are rigged to calculate medical debt differently anyway. It's less damaging to your credit score because most people here have some and if you punish everyone then there's nobody to send credit cards and car loans to.May 28 22:35
DaemonFC[m]Lenders can model risk however they want and despite what they want you to believe,  lending standards didn't get much tighter after the last recession.May 28 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Some outrageously bad behavior was banned, but it was mostly cosmetic industry friendly "reform".May 28 22:36
DaemonFC[m]Some credit card banks would do things like apply your paynent late on purpose to whack you with a $40 fee or something.May 28 22:37
DaemonFC[m]---May 28 22:53
DaemonFC[m]I told them "I received your letter from May 14th. I would like to inform you that I am filing for bankruptcy and have named you as a creditor. It is my recommendation that you do not send me any more notices or I will take action accordingly.".May 28 22:53
DaemonFC[m]She told me that they'd put my account on a bankruptcy hold.May 28 22:53
DaemonFC[m]Err, I told a medical debt collector that, rather.May 28 22:53
DaemonFC[m]As crimes go, a Class C Misdemeanor is almost a joke, but Kroger apparently was hiring people and then firing them when the background check came back and there was a Class C Misdemeanor on it.May 28 23:14
DaemonFC[m]Since background checks look for convictions, not a dismissed case, if the state offers Supervision that closes out with a dismissal, it's a pretty big carrot to get you to take a plea deal.May 28 23:15

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