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| Narrator | https://twitter.com/SimpsonsOps/status/1281412350600335362 | Sep 28 00:02 |
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| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimpsonsOps: That's a big oof right there @memenetes https://t.co/4X47VhiSCd | Sep 28 00:02 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimpsonsOps: That's a big oof right there @memenetes https://t.co/4X47VhiSCd | Sep 28 00:02 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 27/9/2020: Puppy Linux 9.5, Nitrux 1.3.3 http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/nitrux-1-3-3/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/b2acd92e-9010-4a45-b7fe-bceccf5b4647] | Sep 28 00:03 | |
| Narrator | https://twitter.com/SimpsonsOps/status/1305688802782932992 | Sep 28 00:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimpsonsOps: You don't need to understand the code to use the code 😎 https://t.co/PX9MMYz7lU | Sep 28 00:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@SimpsonsOps: You don't need to understand the code to use the code 😎 https://t.co/PX9MMYz7lU | Sep 28 00:04 | |
| Narrator | https://twitter.com/AdamPrzybyla/status/1310308989171888134 | Sep 28 00:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@AdamPrzybyla: https://t.co/oBD9hYPuCC | Sep 28 00:06 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.researchgate.net | (PDF) Postmodern Software Development | Sep 28 00:06 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today in Techrights http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/142609 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f0054549-6f3b-48e1-b74a-8f18eb567ff7] | Sep 28 00:09 | |
| schestowitz | >> No amount of smiles from its new Pres can save them. | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | > Who said anything about OSI? This is about Github. Yes, I know, you were | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | > talking about OSI. I was talking about Github. Technically, we were | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | > talking about both, but OSI was the smaller part of that. | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | Both are involved. | Sep 28 00:18 |
| schestowitz | context: http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/osi-mostly-clearlydefined/ | Sep 28 00:19 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | OSI President: Most or Half of the OSI’s Money (Even Individual Donors’ Money) Goes to a Microsoft-Led Initiative | Techrights | Sep 28 00:19 | |
| schestowitz | https://github.com/orgs/clearlydefined/people | Sep 28 00:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-People · ClearlyDefined · GitHub | Sep 28 00:24 | |
| Narrator | well, the software has been created time to harvest | Sep 28 00:24 |
| schestowitz | about half the people are Microsoft staff | Sep 28 00:25 |
| schestowitz | They've taken over OSI | Sep 28 00:25 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/uaNthyi.png | Sep 28 00:25 |
| Narrator | you know it was commons , commons need to be privatlized | Sep 28 00:26 |
| schestowitz | if that's a "goal" | Sep 28 00:27 |
| Narrator | sorry , have to be privatized | Sep 28 00:28 |
| Narrator | well, the gool is to make more money | Sep 28 00:30 |
| Narrator | https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/70702-this-planet-has---or-rather-had---a-problem | Sep 28 00:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.goodreads.com | Quote by Douglas Adams: “This planet has - or rather had - a problem, wh...” | Sep 28 00:31 | |
| Narrator | there is a problem - we need to make more money | Sep 28 00:32 |
| Narrator | I wonder when they privatize wikipedia | Sep 28 00:33 |
| MinceR | when it becomes the cheapest way of pushing their propaganda through it | Sep 28 00:34 |
| Narrator | well, today we have no propaganda ;-) | Sep 28 00:34 |
| MinceR | i.e. not as long as their troll hordes doing revert wars still achieve the purpose and it's cheaper than buying wikimedia | Sep 28 00:34 |
| MinceR | maybe they don't do it yet, i don't know | Sep 28 00:35 |
| Narrator | we have ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica ;-) | Sep 28 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Cambridge Analytica - Wikipedia | Sep 28 00:35 | |
| MinceR | others certainly do | Sep 28 00:35 |
| Narrator | we don;t need to alter information | Sep 28 00:35 |
| MinceR | presumably the redmond mafia thinks there's enough distance between them and cambridge analytica :> | Sep 28 00:36 |
| Narrator | that was old method ... 1984 is obsolete;-) | Sep 28 00:36 |
| MinceR | i wish it was | Sep 28 00:37 |
| Narrator | btw, long time ago i had altered some books | Sep 28 00:37 |
| MinceR | afaict, for the most part, 1984 is only getting started | Sep 28 00:37 |
| Narrator | it was during my military service | Sep 28 00:37 |
| MinceR | recently the government of nazi hungary saw fit to take over the biggest news portal in hungary | Sep 28 00:38 |
| Narrator | it was during polish "revolution";-) | Sep 28 00:38 |
| MinceR | they're also taking down the last remaining credible radio station | Sep 28 00:39 |
| Narrator | well, hungary is independent | Sep 28 00:39 |
| MinceR | i wish it was | Sep 28 00:39 |
| MinceR | it's a russian colony again | Sep 28 00:39 |
| MinceR | as it was before 1990 | Sep 28 00:39 |
| Narrator | relly? | Sep 28 00:39 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 28 00:39 |
| MinceR | the fascists are also shutting down democracy in uhmerica | Sep 28 00:39 |
| Narrator | do you live in hungary ? | Sep 28 00:40 |
| MinceR | their takeover of the supreme court is underway | Sep 28 00:40 |
| MinceR | i do | Sep 28 00:40 |
| Narrator | when ? | Sep 28 00:40 |
| MinceR | when what? | Sep 28 00:40 |
| Narrator | when do you live in hungary ? | Sep 28 00:41 |
| MinceR | i've lived in this shithole for most of my life, including right now | Sep 28 00:41 |
| Narrator | ok:) | Sep 28 00:41 |
| Narrator | do you think that other have better situation?;-) | Sep 28 00:43 |
| MinceR | indeed | Sep 28 00:43 |
| MinceR | but perhaps not for long | Sep 28 00:43 |
| Narrator | remember, it could be the same situation as in ukraina | Sep 28 00:46 |
| MinceR | ukrainians are more willing to fight for their freedom than hungarians | Sep 28 00:46 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Well, Yanukovich fscked up | Sep 28 00:48 |
| Narrator | well, freedoem to burn some peoples alive | Sep 28 00:48 |
| XRevan86 | not sure how everything would've turned out if he hadn't | Sep 28 00:48 |
| Narrator | they have civil war ... | Sep 28 00:49 |
| Narrator | well, probably you don't know what you talk about ... | Sep 28 00:49 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And Zelensky is not looking very hot right now. What's happening around that? Not much. | Sep 28 00:49 |
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| Narrator | zelensky is a pupet of one of the oligarch | Sep 28 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | I find it amazing that everyone votes into Parliament the party that the president went with. | Sep 28 00:50 |
| MinceR | :> | Sep 28 00:50 |
| MinceR | maybe they trust the president | Sep 28 00:50 |
| Narrator | :) | Sep 28 00:50 |
| MinceR | or they just cheat at elections | Sep 28 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: No, unlikely. | Sep 28 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | the latter | Sep 28 00:50 |
| MinceR | which one? | Sep 28 00:50 |
| MinceR | ah | Sep 28 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | And in the Zelensky's case that party was made up on the spot, it's just ludicrious. | Sep 28 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | The name is the best part. | Sep 28 00:51 |
| Narrator | MinceR: sometimes the strong governments is a good thing;-) | Sep 28 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | The party is called The Servant of the People. Why? People the TV show that starred Zelensky was called that. | Sep 28 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | * Because the TV show | Sep 28 00:51 |
| Narrator | this guy is a good actor ;-) | Sep 28 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | It's a Designated Survivor kind of TV series. | Sep 28 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | has very good ratings, I think it's still going | Sep 28 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | It just kills me. | Sep 28 00:53 |
| Narrator | it's populism | Sep 28 00:55 |
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| MinceR | 28 015147 < Narrator> MinceR: sometimes the strong governments is a good thing;-) | Sep 28 00:56 |
| MinceR | yes, when they consist of people you only find in fiction | Sep 28 00:56 |
| Narrator | i think that currently we have oligarchy in ukraine , probably they will be evaluate to something better i mean ... feudalism ... | Sep 28 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | So yea, that's how Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom: they keep fscking up, then they assemble on the main square and try to eject the corrupt government. | Sep 28 00:57 |
| MinceR | or putler will decide he's not popular enough in russia and annex the rest of ukraine | Sep 28 00:57 |
| XRevan86 | at least they do the last step, Russians still don't get the memo | Sep 28 00:58 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: better than what the hungarians are doing | Sep 28 00:58 |
| MinceR | (not that the CDU/CSU helping them so they can manufacture shitty german cars with cheap labor in hungary isn't making things worse...) | Sep 28 00:59 |
| Narrator | well, some part of ukraine dan;t want to be in that shit;-) they want to be in russia;-) | Sep 28 00:59 |
| MinceR | yeah, for example the unlabelled russian soldiers | Sep 28 01:00 |
| Narrator | btw, most of ukrainian speak russian | Sep 28 01:00 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: Crimea got FUD'ed and now is in the middle of cognitive dissonance | Sep 28 01:00 |
| Narrator | MinceR: are you sure? | Sep 28 01:00 |
| MinceR | yeah | Sep 28 01:00 |
| Narrator | did you read information form both sides? | Sep 28 01:00 |
| MinceR | yes | Sep 28 01:00 |
| MinceR | it's pretty much inevitable to read putler's propaganda, after all | Sep 28 01:01 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: He's referring to the "зелёные человечки" | Sep 28 01:01 |
| Narrator | yes | Sep 28 01:01 |
| MinceR | especially in a country he practically already owns | Sep 28 01:01 |
| Narrator | i know russian | Sep 28 01:01 |
| Narrator | i can read different sources | Sep 28 01:01 |
| Narrator | not only english one | Sep 28 01:02 |
| MinceR | what difference does it make? | Sep 28 01:02 |
| MinceR | RT is available in english | Sep 28 01:02 |
| MinceR | putler's puppets publish in a variety of languages, including hungary | Sep 28 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | "btw, most of ukrainian speak russian" – I honestly don't know the percentages, but if you mean "is or can pass as a native speaker", then it's close to 100% | Sep 28 01:02 |
| XRevan86 | if you mean "prefer Russian or don't know Ukrainian", then I don't know | Sep 28 01:02 |
| MinceR | XRevan86: it's almost as if ukraine used to be part of a state that had russian as its official language | Sep 28 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | The Eastern regions, Odessa, Kiev mostly speak Russian | Sep 28 01:03 |
| schestowitz | [00:34] <MinceR> i.e. not as long as their troll hordes doing revert wars still achieve the purpose and it's cheaper than buying wikimedia | Sep 28 01:03 |
| schestowitz | yes, this is the present | Sep 28 01:03 |
| schestowitz | esp. for some topics | Sep 28 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: Right. | Sep 28 01:03 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: And the languages are close, so assimilation is easy, in both directions. | Sep 28 01:04 |
| MinceR | s/ary/arian/ | Sep 28 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | Which pretty much drives the country into having a bilingual population. | Sep 28 01:05 |
| Narrator | exactly the east is russian , the west ukrainian | Sep 28 01:05 |
| Narrator | mostly | Sep 28 01:05 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: Better to clarify that you're pointing to languages in these cases :) | Sep 28 01:06 |
| XRevan86 | Putin: oh, thank you very much, nom-nom-nom | Sep 28 01:06 |
| MinceR | "What's mine is mine and what's yours is negotiable." | Sep 28 01:07 |
| Narrator | https://www.satellitetoday.com/broadband/2020/05/13/telesat-joins-microsoft-nokia-on-rural-broadband-consortium/ | Sep 28 01:08 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.satellitetoday.com | Telesat Joins Microsoft, Nokia on Rural Broadband Consortium - Via Satellite - | Sep 28 01:09 | |
| XRevan86 | I do wonder how things will end up with Crimea. Odds that it'll return to Ukraine are not good, unless something changes in a very unexpected way. | Sep 28 01:09 |
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| MinceR | nokia still haven't learned their lesson? | Sep 28 01:09 |
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| Narrator | XRevan86: well, it was 75% to 25% - tested on one of the news service in ukraine | Sep 28 01:10 |
| Narrator | 75 russian | Sep 28 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | Narrator: What's the sauce? | Sep 28 01:10 |
| XRevan86 | Don't say 1+1 | Sep 28 01:10 |
| Narrator | ukrainian to russian language on the popular ukrainian webpage | Sep 28 01:12 |
| Narrator | i need to find it | Sep 28 01:12 |
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| XRevan86 | I mean, it wouldn't surprise me a whole lot. | Sep 28 01:20 |
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| schestowitz | anyone here fancies wiki curation for techrights? | Sep 28 01:31 |
| schestowitz | there are some topics that are spread all over the place and need indexing | Sep 28 01:32 |
| schestowitz | for a clearer picture (overall) | Sep 28 01:32 |
| schestowitz | need to tidy those up | Sep 28 01:32 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html | Sep 28 01:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Trump’s Taxes Show Chronic Losses and Years of Income Tax Avoidance - The New York Times | Sep 28 01:37 | |
| schestowitz | good, so he will be arrested tonight | Sep 28 02:00 |
| schestowitz | right? | Sep 28 02:00 |
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| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: can you proofread with me? | Sep 28 02:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Oh, sorry. On the phone with mom. | Sep 28 02:19 |
| schestowitz | it's OK | Sep 28 02:29 |
| schestowitz | it's done already | Sep 28 02:29 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/proprietary-monopoly-github/ | Sep 28 02:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Don’t Let Microsoft Make ‘Open Source’ Synonymous With Proprietary Monopoly GitHub | Techrights | Sep 28 02:29 | |
| schestowitz | https://twitter.com/BrideOfLinux/status/1310242797019070464 | Sep 28 02:34 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: But...but...but...without Windows, who can we blame our shortcomings on? Asking for a friend: Microsoft Windows is… https://t.co/r49Qs5cPAW | Sep 28 02:34 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@BrideOfLinux: But...but...but...without Windows, who can we blame our shortcomings on? Asking for a friend: Microsoft Windows is… https://t.co/r49Qs5cPAW | Sep 28 02:34 | |
| schestowitz | "But...but...but...without Windows, who can we blame our shortcomings on? Asking for a friend: Microsoft Windows is Obsolete" | Sep 28 02:34 |
| Chaekyung | schestowitz: I think you sometimes write articles about subjects you are into with the assumption others are too. | Sep 28 02:36 |
| Chaekyung | schestowitz: You may want to think about that when you write to improve. | Sep 28 02:36 |
| Chaekyung | schestowitz: I don't read your site regularly, never have. Clicked on http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/proprietary-monopoly-github/ today, so that's a fine example of what I mean. After the brief into, | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | Microsoft has long attempted to control its competition, either by takeovers or infiltration. This is what we now see at the OSI. | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | then | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | ClearlyDefined is so bad that it’s hosted and governed by Microsoft. It is managed by proprietary software of Microsoft and it is largely controlled by Microsoft. | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | so first question that came to mind is | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | What's a "ClearlyDefined" and why would anyone even care? | Sep 28 02:37 |
| schestowitz | there are links in there? | Sep 28 02:37 |
| Chaekyung | That's where a few paragraphs very briefly explaining wtf it is would be helpful | Sep 28 02:37 |
| schestowitz | I cannot re-introduce everything in every post? | Sep 28 02:37 |
| schestowitz | it would slow things down to the point of doing too long articles... and few of them that repeat the same thing over and over again | Sep 28 02:38 |
| schestowitz | there are at least 2 links there which explain more about it | Sep 28 02:38 |
| schestowitz | it's a licence labeler | Sep 28 02:39 |
| schestowitz | mostly, initially for github | Sep 28 02:39 |
| schestowitz | Chaekyung: I understand your point, don't get me wrong | Sep 28 02:41 |
| schestowitz | people can look things up or link through | Sep 28 02:41 |
| schestowitz | a wall of text with primers and all would not be any more appealing as many people are lazy in this social control media era | Sep 28 02:41 |
| Chaekyung | Perhaps. | Sep 28 02:42 |
| Chaekyung | I try to dumb things down and explain things most people wouldn't know since it's so hard to forget most people don't know things. | Sep 28 02:43 |
| Chaekyung | but it's also hard to know where to cut offf | Sep 28 02:43 |
| Chaekyung | "open a terminal and type foo" | Sep 28 02:43 |
| Chaekyung | can't bloody well explain how to open a terminal on every desktop environment every time, eh | Sep 28 02:44 |
| Chaekyung | But I can say for sure that my old mother would not know wtf I'm on about if I write "open a terminal" | Sep 28 02:44 |
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| schestowitz | I think it boils down to the readers' level | Sep 28 02:45 |
| schestowitz | assumption of what most know or don't know | Sep 28 02:45 |
| schestowitz | to some you need to say, | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | "click on the icon at the top" | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | "then system" | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | "then terminal" | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | "click on the windows, then type..." | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | spoon-feeding them every step | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | what is OSI? | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | some people don't know | Sep 28 02:46 |
| schestowitz | they might look it up and there are many things called OSI | Sep 28 02:47 |
| schestowitz | So this site might not be for these people | Sep 28 02:47 |
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| schestowitz | "In the United States, approximately 11.1 percent of people under the age of 65 do not have health insurance." | Sep 28 02:54 |
| schestowitz | https://www.kake.com/story/42687044/how-to-choose-a-comprehensive-health-insurance-that-is-affordable | Sep 28 02:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-How to Choose a Comprehensive Health Insurance That Is Affordable - KAKE | Sep 28 02:54 | |
| schestowitz | I thought it was a lot more, DaemonFC[m] | Sep 28 02:54 |
| schestowitz | 88% have insurance? | Sep 28 02:54 |
| schestowitz | and if so, what level of coverage? | Sep 28 02:54 |
| schestowitz | are these numbers fudged? | Sep 28 02:54 |
| schestowitz | like unemployment figures? | Sep 28 02:55 |
| schestowitz | which would disqualify all those who gave up looking or have failed to find work for 6 months? | Sep 28 02:55 |
| oarion7 | A lot of services are still unafforadable, even with insurance | Sep 28 02:58 |
| thddx | that's why it's considered the #1 driver of poverty | Sep 28 03:06 |
| thddx | and food insecurity | Sep 28 03:06 |
| schestowitz | #1 cause of US bankruptcies (medical bills) | Sep 28 03:09 |
| schestowitz | ask DaemonFC[m] | Sep 28 03:09 |
| schestowitz | in china and in the uk, to avoid over-prescribing there are some flat fees | Sep 28 03:10 |
| schestowitz | a friend told me that in china you pay maybe 10% of the bill | Sep 28 03:10 |
| schestowitz | in uk pharmacies there is a flat fee of about 9 pounds for prescriptions, except where there are medical exemptions | Sep 28 03:11 |
| schestowitz | but the best thing is, no surprise bills | Sep 28 03:11 |
| schestowitz | and you can sleep better at nigth | Sep 28 03:11 |
| schestowitz | (though you don't want to have health problems right now, coronavirus pushes capacity to the limits, so it's risky) | Sep 28 03:12 |
| thddx | that said, i'm unwilling to pay into our inflated system for the supposed security. i'd rather take the risk and take it upon myself to stay healthy | Sep 28 03:12 |
| schestowitz | wait till winter flu kills more people than usual because coronavirus pushes hospitals' capacity to the limit | Sep 28 03:13 |
| thddx | yeah, no kidding | Sep 28 03:13 |
| schestowitz | thddx: problem with that is, | Sep 28 03:13 |
| schestowitz | your privatised systems (not you personally) | Sep 28 03:13 |
| schestowitz | is overpriced | Sep 28 03:13 |
| schestowitz | and if it's nationalised prices can be kept under control | Sep 28 03:13 |
| schestowitz | disservices/fee ratios | Sep 28 03:13 |
| thddx | oh, i know. that's why i refuse to give them my money | Sep 28 03:14 |
| thddx | even when employed, i opt for barebones, high deductible plans | Sep 28 03:15 |
| schestowitz | does anyone know how to hide windows decs in gnome3? | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | they're bloated and ugly | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | Tweak gives no such option | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | thddx: I saw some examples of medical bills | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | totally disproportional wrt to salaries and underlying expenses | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | it's madness in the US | Sep 28 03:22 |
| schestowitz | maybe here also, but UK passes this money more and more into small private companies | Sep 28 03:23 |
| schestowitz | it's a dirty ploy | Sep 28 03:23 |
| schestowitz | using nhs budget to enrich people who bribe 'our' gov. | Sep 28 03:23 |
| thddx | it's all fucked | Sep 28 03:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "are these numbers fudged?"> Usually people qualify for at least Medicaid if they're broke. | Sep 28 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | ACA Medicaid will be available in 40 states and DC as soon as the constitutional amendment the voters of Missouri passed goes into effect. | Sep 28 03:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'd recommend avoiding Medicaid and taking a subsidized ACA exchange plan if you're an immigrant. | Sep 28 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The government still pays for a lot of it, but ACA credits are not public charge, and Medicaid is. | Sep 28 03:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Medicaid can do estate clawback but most people who die on Medicaid don't have much for the state to take. | Sep 28 03:31 |
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| schestowitz | > http://techrights.org/2020/09/27/open-to-everything/ | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Open to Everything | Techrights | Sep 28 03:54 | |
| schestowitz | > This incidentally, is exactly what will become/is slowly becoming of the | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > Free Github Foundation. | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > "To be honest, at the time my first thought was, 'What a noble idea, but | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > one person cannot do all this.' Then I saw how over time, many good | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > people from literally every corner of the planet gave of themselves to | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > make free software a reality. It is you who are important, it is you who | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > joined the effort..." | Sep 28 03:54 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/statement-from-fsfs-new-president-geoffrey-knauth | Sep 28 03:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.fsf.org | Statement from FSF's new president, Geoffrey Knauth — Free Software Foundation — working together for free software | Sep 28 03:54 | |
| schestowitz | > (He's a robot) | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > "They hated being called 'Master.' It's one of the reasons I kept doing it." | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > https://starpowercomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2016-12-19-1.jpg | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > His "Masters" incidentally, were called the Zel Gux-- their native words | Sep 28 03:56 |
| schestowitz | > for "Love" and "Compassion". | Sep 28 03:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Ubuntu is missing some good packages, like DeadBeeF. | Sep 28 03:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Found it in a PPA, but they haven't updated past 1.8.3. | Sep 28 03:59 |
| schestowitz | Re: ms corporate sponsor of OSI? | Sep 28 04:04 |
| schestowitz | > Excellent information! | Sep 28 04:04 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 04:04 |
| schestowitz | > I especially enjoyed the pic/video of the monitor with what looks like MS in the background today. Wow. | Sep 28 04:04 |
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| schestowitz | RMS got back to me, Chaekyung | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | only 7 days late | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Richard Stallman: | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | > Would you like to ask me in two weeks? | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Of course. | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for getting back to me. | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | Happy hacking. | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | I suppose he's very backlogged | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | but 2 weeks? wow. | Sep 28 04:59 |
| schestowitz | he used to respond within 1-2 days | Sep 28 05:00 |
| schestowitz | Chaekyung: your mistake was, you asked a question like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUAGs2lc4OU | Sep 28 05:00 |
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| schestowitz | and it rightly pissed him off | Sep 28 05:00 |
| schestowitz | talking to him about death, sort of | Sep 28 05:00 |
| schestowitz | he intends to do his activism until he dies | Sep 28 05:01 |
| schestowitz | so asking about retirement is like asking about death | Sep 28 05:01 |
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| zoobab | +win 4 | Sep 28 07:38 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: wrong win(dow) | Sep 28 08:16 |
| zoobab | yo | Sep 28 08:18 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: no coverage re busdesrat | Sep 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz | not even in the upc-centric blobs | Sep 28 08:22 |
| schestowitz | *blogs | Sep 28 08:22 |
| zoobab | nope | Sep 28 08:26 |
| zoobab | I could not find anyone writing about it | Sep 28 08:26 |
| zoobab | the only info I saw was from Markus | Sep 28 08:26 |
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| schestowitz | zoobab: I am still watching closely | Sep 28 08:48 |
| schestowitz | google alerts | Sep 28 08:48 |
| schestowitz | recently not a word | Sep 28 08:48 |
| schestowitz | 2-3 weeks | Sep 28 08:48 |
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| scientes | https://meduza.io/en/feature/2020/09/22/a-brilliant-conman | Sep 28 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-meduza.io | NO TITLE | Sep 28 12:12 | |
| scientes | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA | Sep 28 12:12 |
| MinceR | https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/AAAAAAAAA! | Sep 28 12:12 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.uncyclopedia.co | AAAAAAAAA! - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia | Sep 28 12:12 | |
| scientes | they must be shipping it to Russia | Sep 28 12:13 |
| scientes | because you can buy coca leaves in Bolivia and Peru for hardly anything | Sep 28 12:13 |
| scientes | the Peru border control also has its own TV show | Sep 28 12:15 |
| scientes | and they had this russian guy caught smuggling cocain INTO Peru | Sep 28 12:15 |
| scientes | which makes absolutely no sense | Sep 28 12:15 |
| MinceR | lol | Sep 28 12:16 |
| MinceR | how costly and productive is it to extract cocaine from coca leaves? | Sep 28 12:16 |
| scientes | I watched a video about it in Colombia | Sep 28 12:16 |
| scientes | not interested however | Sep 28 12:17 |
| scientes | I was told to buy some before I climbed a mountain | Sep 28 12:17 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/685539.jpg | Sep 28 12:22 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20011124 | Sep 28 12:33 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4276997) | Sep 28 12:33 | |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/685374.jpg | Sep 28 12:54 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: do you find them in an irc channel? | Sep 28 15:39 |
| MinceR | no | Sep 28 15:39 |
| MinceR | well, i probably found out about most of the sites on irc | Sep 28 15:39 |
| MinceR | but i browse the website | Sep 28 15:39 |
| schestowitz | oh, i c | Sep 28 15:41 |
| schestowitz | cheers | Sep 28 15:41 |
| MinceR | s/.$/s/ | Sep 28 15:41 |
| schestowitz | new grep is out this morning | Sep 28 15:42 |
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| schestowitz | maybe sed soon | Sep 28 15:42 |
| MinceR | :) | Sep 28 15:42 |
| schestowitz | grep 3.5 | Sep 28 15:42 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: My credit score is recovering faster than I thought it would. | Sep 28 17:49 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I challenged the Kia and they didn't respond, so it got deleted. No mention in the bankruptcy accounts now, and the authorized user on Mandy's card got reported. That was enough to bring me up from 564 to 662. | Sep 28 17:50 |
| schestowitz | banksters love lending | Sep 28 17:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So when that secured card shows up on there in a month or so, I should be 680-690 again 2 months after a bankruptcy. | Sep 28 17:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | This is whack. | Sep 28 17:50 |
| DaemonFC[m] | 700 is considered "excellent". | Sep 28 17:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "banksters love lending"> Obviously. I threw so much stuff in there I thought for sure they'd have me on a shorter leash than this. | Sep 28 17:51 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I read that it was generally unheard of to have anything close to a 700 for at least 2 years. | Sep 28 17:52 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They have it set up so that if you file bankruptcy, you generally have to take on credit cards again when you get out to fix some of the damage to your credit score. | Sep 28 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Since everything pulls your credit, including landlords, they can offer some pretty terrible deals on secured credit cards in some cases, but Discover is better than the bottom feeder banks and approved me right away. | Sep 28 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Many want a deposit and a $100 annual fee. | Sep 28 17:53 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The idea is that it's that or a "credit builder" loan, and I was looking into those. They want 16% interest on your own money just to say nice things about you to the credit bureaus. | Sep 28 17:54 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can do both secured cards, authorized user cards, and a credit builder loan if you want. | Sep 28 17:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But the impact of having the credit builder loan is minimal compared to two credit cards showing paid as agreed. | Sep 28 17:55 |
| schestowitz | anyway, enough about your finances | Sep 28 17:55 |
| schestowitz | let's focus on topics that are relevant to all | Sep 28 17:55 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I'm trying to figure out the weights it attaches to the score. | Sep 28 17:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The FICO software, you know. | Sep 28 17:56 |
| schestowitz | we need to focus on tech | Sep 28 17:56 |
| schestowitz | of tech finance | Sep 28 17:56 |
| schestowitz | and in general terms | Sep 28 17:56 |
| schestowitz | not a life diary | Sep 28 17:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I can find a general guide to how the score model works, but it's for people without a bankruptcy. | Sep 28 17:56 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So I'm sort of just feeling my way around and seeing how they respond to each thing. | Sep 28 17:57 |
| schestowitz | very inaccurate a method | Sep 28 17:57 |
| schestowitz | you don't have enough data | Sep 28 17:57 |
| schestowitz | and it can be down to a fluke | Sep 28 17:57 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They don't want people to know exactly how FICO works. They talk about how it works at a high level. | Sep 28 17:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's another score that's getting popular, called Vantagescore, and those are widely used now too. By landlords and stuff, some credit cards. | Sep 28 17:58 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FICO had a monopoly for about, oh, 20 years on numerical score for credit risk proxy. | Sep 28 17:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then the bureaus got together and said why don't we just come up with our own model and license it to each other and cut these FICO people out? | Sep 28 17:59 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So the result is a total mess. There's 10 versions of the FICO software and I think 4 Vantagescore models, and lenders can use whichever ones they want. | Sep 28 18:00 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So behavior that one score rewards you for, you can get punished by another score for the same move. | Sep 28 18:01 |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: So, for example, you let a bill go to a collection agency. You ignore it for 3 years. | Sep 28 18:02 |
| DaemonFC[m] | On FICO model 8, that's a collection account with no activity on it in 3 years, so it's doing like 15% as much damage as if it was new. | Sep 28 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You pay it off. FICO 8 says "Paid in Full, but last activity was a month ago." and your score drops. | Sep 28 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | FICO 9 says "Well, that's a collections account that's paid in full, and since it's paid in full I'm going to ignore that." and it doesn't affect FICO 9 or 10 at all. | Sep 28 18:03 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The problem is that it's hurting your score to pay it on FICO models 1-8 and helping it on 9 and 10, but lenders mostly use 2, 5, and 8, and very few use 9 and 10. | Sep 28 18:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So in general, the best thing to do at this point is still leave it alone even though FICO says "Our new models reward you for paying for it.". | Sep 28 18:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Then we delve a little bit deeper and find out that the FICO scores on each model that you can pay to look at may not even be what a lender sees. | Sep 28 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There's sub-models that score risk for mortgages, credit cards, renting an apartment. | Sep 28 18:05 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's all designed so that you have absolutely no idea whats going on in there. | Sep 28 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even if you pay them to tell you what the score is. | Sep 28 18:06 |
| DaemonFC[m] | So between everything, there are over 50 different scores your lenders may be looking at and they all look at "risk" differently. It's insane. | Sep 28 18:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | There ought to be a law that cleans this mess up and says "Okay, you have one credit score and that's it.". | Sep 28 18:07 |
| MinceR | even if there was one, you can be sure they'd fuck it up | Sep 28 18:08 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/T0O0bTb.jpeg | Sep 28 18:09 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Pretty much. Nobody cared until they could be next. | Sep 28 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That shows you that they were still smarter than we are now. | Sep 28 18:10 |
| DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: I think that they probably would have won had they waited a while loner and built more U-Boats. | Sep 28 18:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If they had more U-Boats they could have completely fucked up the shipping lanes and they would have had a much easier time later on. | Sep 28 18:12 |
| DaemonFC[m] | U-505 (the one that got captured and is in Chicago now) was a testimony to how stunningly effective a single U-Boat could be. | Sep 28 18:12 |
| MinceR | meanwhile, some people are taking notes furiously | Sep 28 18:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Wolf pack tactics wouldn't work very well in a modern war. | Sep 28 18:14 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | https://liliputing.com/2020/09/picorio-dev-board-pc-with-a-risc-v-chip-will-be-a-low-cost-open-source-raspberry-pi-alternative.html | Sep 28 18:15 |
| _I3^RELATIVISM | RISC-V raspberrypi alternative by RIOSlab(RISC-V International Open Source Lab) in the works | Sep 28 18:15 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-PicoRio dev board PC with a RISC-V chip will be a low-cost, open source Raspberry Pi alternative - Liliputing | Sep 28 18:15 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | I think that the over-reliance on aircraft carriers is a mistake. | Sep 28 18:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Even Iran has some diesel subs that are a threat to those. | Sep 28 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Imagine the PR coup of blowing up an entire aircraft carrier using an old Russian sub that you bought on Putin's used car lot. | Sep 28 18:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The US relies on relatively few of them for air superiority, so destroying even 1 or 2 Would have a tremendous effect. | Sep 28 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | They cost a lot of money to build. There's thousands of people on one and dozens of expensive aircraft. | Sep 28 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | All it takes to sink it are maybe a couple well placed torpedo hits. | Sep 28 18:18 |
| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2138/ | Sep 28 18:28 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2139/ | Sep 28 19:40 |
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| Chaekyung | scandal https://linuxreviews.org/Linux_5.9-rc7_Is_A_Total_Disaster_On_Machines_With_Intel_Graphics | Sep 28 20:00 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-linuxreviews.org | Linux 5.9-rc7 Is A Total Disaster On Machines With Intel Graphics - LinuxReviews | Sep 28 20:00 | |
| Chaekyung | very unfortunate | Sep 28 20:00 |
| MinceR | so much for intel's track record | Sep 28 20:02 |
| MinceR | it was surprising enough that they could get this one thing right | Sep 28 20:03 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/07/03/18fbad1bcc83c4f5.jpg | Sep 28 20:09 |
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| psydroid | that's the Intel Evo experience | Sep 28 20:59 |
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| MinceR | https://xkcd.com/2142/ | Sep 28 21:35 |
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| schestowitz | XRevan86: I got an explanation of what RMS said | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | it was a pop culture reference | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | Re: What do you mean "we", white man? | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > As per IRC, in the RT interview with RMS: | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.rt.com/shows/sophieco-visionaries/501613-stallman-data-protection-privacy/ | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Richard Stallman: You can get arrested without a reason — RT SophieCo. Visionaries | Sep 28 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | > RMS forgot to name to name specific Free Software examples for | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > telecommuting. | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > More interestingly he gave the interviewer a little shock with his | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > paraphrase Mad Magazine from the 1960s, back when it was funny That | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > joke is a generational thing and specific to the US so those either born | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > recently or outside the US might miss. | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > Here is some background: | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > "It has become very popular in recent years as a | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > rhetorical device for essay writers who wish to write | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > about situations where someone takes for granted that | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > someone is his/her ally. " | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-329/ | Sep 28 22:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Comic Book Legends Revealed #329 | CBR | Sep 28 22:37 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > Further context is that the joke was about "The Lone Ranger", a show | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > which has not been on radio or even television for decades. It was a | Sep 28 22:37 |
| schestowitz | > major cultural force for several generations. | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > https://archive.org/details/OTRR_LoneRanger_Singles | Sep 28 22:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-archive.org | The Lone Ranger - Single Episodes : Old Time Radio Researchers Group : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive | Sep 28 22:38 | |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > The phrase has continued on long past the radio or television series' | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > end and even the end of the magazine. | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > Probably the interviewer would not have time for either link but it | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > would clear up the confusion. | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > PS. Yes, explaining jokes makes them unfunny. :/ | Sep 28 22:38 |
| schestowitz | > | Sep 28 22:38 |
| XRevan86 | schestowitz: Ah, now I get it. | Sep 28 22:39 |
| schestowitz | Gates Deposition Audio and Video | Sep 28 22:43 |
| schestowitz | http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=GatesDepo | Sep 28 22:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.groklaw.net | Groklaw - Gates Deposition Audio and Video | Sep 28 22:43 | |
| XRevan86 | I think RMS can get away with it, because without context is simply doesn't add up, so it's hard to accuse him as it's not clear what he meant then. | Sep 28 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | * it is simply | Sep 28 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | * it simply | Sep 28 22:43 |
| XRevan86 | gramer hard | Sep 28 22:43 |
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| schestowitz | I really didn't know the reference | Sep 28 22:58 |
| schestowitz | seems nobody here knew | Sep 28 22:58 |
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| schestowitz | [18:09] <MinceR> https://i.imgur.com/T0O0bTb.jpeg | Sep 28 23:03 |
| schestowitz | Those camps were in Poland | Sep 28 23:03 |
| MinceR | all of them? | Sep 28 23:07 |
| MinceR | and were they in poland before ww2? | Sep 28 23:07 |
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| schestowitz | MinceR: I am not sure, but I think most of them were there, the big ones anyway | Sep 28 23:19 |
| schestowitz | or the more notorious ones | Sep 28 23:19 |
| schestowitz | Gitmo is also not in the US | Sep 28 23:19 |
| schestowitz | they avert the law this way | Sep 28 23:20 |
| schestowitz | https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/gallery/concentration-camps-1942-45-maps | Sep 28 23:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-encyclopedia.ushmm.org | Concentration Camps, 1942–45 - Animated Map/Map | The Holocaust Encyclopedia | Sep 28 23:21 | |
| schestowitz | The extermination camps where | Sep 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz | so I guess people were relocated there for kill | Sep 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz | *where->were | Sep 28 23:21 |
| schestowitz | see the legend below | Sep 28 23:21 |
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