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| DaemonFC[m] | > I've built working PCs just by guessing | Feb 29 00:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I've built better computers and operating system than Apple, by guessing. | Feb 29 00:10 |
| MinceR | so have i | Feb 29 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | Maybe they got that guy from Apple %) | Feb 29 00:12 |
| XRevan86 | a specialist who thinks differently | Feb 29 00:12 |
| MinceR | differently from the people who do think | Feb 29 00:13 |
| XRevan86 | Details, details… | Feb 29 00:13 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 29 00:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Brave isn't a bad browser. I'm surprised I took so long to try it. | Feb 29 00:33 |
| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: I guess you weren't brave enough | Feb 29 00:43 |
| MinceR | :> | Feb 29 00:43 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I guess I don't like the idea of Brendan Eich too much. | Feb 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Most homophobes are either fundies or closet gays anyway. | Feb 29 00:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Or both. | Feb 29 00:44 |
| XRevan86 | Was he the one who got kicked out of Mozilla? | Feb 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Who the hell just randomly says "I'm going to hate gay people so much I'm willing to spend money to oppress them!"? | Feb 29 00:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Feb 29 00:45 |
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| XRevan86 | He donated $1000 to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8 | Feb 29 00:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | 2008 California Proposition 8 - Wikipedia | Feb 29 00:47 | |
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| *XRevan86 had to be reminded of that. | Feb 29 00:49 | |
| XRevan86 | I wonder if he ever explained himself over what was going on in his head at the time. | Feb 29 00:50 |
| XRevan86 | https://brendaneich.com/2012/04/community-and-diversity/ | Feb 29 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | > I’m not going to discuss Prop 8 here or on Twitter. There is no point in talking with the people who are baiting, ranting, and hurling four-letter abuse. Personal hatred conveyed through curse words is neither rational nor charitable, and strong feelings on any side of an issue do not justify it. | Feb 29 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | meh | Feb 29 00:51 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-brendaneich.com | Community and Diversity – Brendan Eich | Feb 29 00:51 | |
| MinceR | i guess it's more effective to convey personal hatred via legislation | Feb 29 00:51 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: He argues that he is a chill dude, and saying otherwise based on that donation is baad | Feb 29 00:52 |
| XRevan86 | > I challenge anyone to cite an incident where I displayed hatred, or ever treated someone less than respectfully because of group affinity or individual identity. | Feb 29 00:53 |
| MinceR | "We used to hate people. Now we just make fun of them. It's more effective that way." | Feb 29 00:54 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: That's how I always operate %) | Feb 29 00:55 |
| XRevan86 | The fact that he wants to keep it private is interesting in on itself. | Feb 29 01:01 |
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| XRevan86 | https://fsfe.org/news/2020/news-20200228-01.html hah | Feb 29 01:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-fsfe.org | Security scandal around WhatsApp shows the need for decentralised messengers and digital sovereignty | Feb 29 01:07 | |
| XRevan86 | I remember a similiar issue existing in Telegram a few years back %). | Feb 29 01:07 |
| XRevan86 | https://hsto.org/getpro/habr/post_images/cae/bea/3b1/caebea3b15b05d55d6313c5671960eb6.png 2018 | Feb 29 01:10 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | > i guess it's more effective to convey personal hatred via legislation | Feb 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Well, they collectively spent almost $50 million on Prop 8 and lost. | Feb 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The lawyers made money. | Feb 29 01:35 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Everything is a matter of public record. | Feb 29 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you don't want to draw condemnation for it, stay out of it. | Feb 29 01:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Mozilla did not do anything about it. They offered him a different "C-Level" position when he tendered his resignation. | Feb 29 01:39 |
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| Ariadne | DaemonFC[m]: precisely | Feb 29 02:23 |
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| GuyResearchingPa | Just wanted to point out a glaring error in your article that I wasted time reading: “Why getting patents is smart for domain name companies” was the headline of this article from last week. It’s very bad advice in the post-Alice world because software patents are very weak now. So who’s behind such advice? As usual, it’s the shameless | Feb 29 03:11 |
| GuyResearchingPa | self promoters. To quote: “As a bit of background, I once worked in the intellectual property group of a Fortune 500 company. My job was to license non-patented software technology for commercialization, but I also saw the inner-workings of patent programs.” | Feb 29 03:11 |
| GuyResearchingPa | …. "So what we have here is a site about domain names promoting abstract patents in this domain; but the person who wrote the article is no domain expert, just a patent profiteer, as usual." | Feb 29 03:11 |
| GuyResearchingPa | Clicking the link you provided redirects to an article on Domain Name Wire (https://domainnamewire.com), "Why getting patents is smart for domain name companies," | Feb 29 03:14 |
| GuyResearchingPa | authored by Andrew Allemann. | Feb 29 03:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-domainnamewire.com | Domain Name Wire | Domain Name News - Domain Name Industry News | Feb 29 03:14 | |
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| GuyResearchingPa | Did you even try Googling who Andrew Allemann is before you conjectured about him? He is the founder and editor of … domainnamewire.com. So he qualifies as a domain name expert. You on the other hand may want to rethink labeling yourself as a "software engineer" | Feb 29 03:17 |
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| schestowitz | does not contradict what we wrote, but anyway... | Feb 29 03:20 |
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| scientes | well obviously WhatsApp won't be secure | Feb 29 06:15 |
| scientes | I mean, they try to pretend with all the encryption key stuff | Feb 29 06:15 |
| scientes | but that article is horrible, because the contact list is more important than the contents of the messages | Feb 29 06:16 |
| scientes | and that is a very difficult problem | Feb 29 06:16 |
| scientes | "By the time I'm old enough there won't be a frenchman to be killed." | Feb 29 06:16 |
| scientes | hehehe, War and Peace | Feb 29 06:17 |
| scientes | Audrey Hepburn is such a tulip. It is quite something how the movies mean that the portrait ages, and the person stays the same age. | Feb 29 06:17 |
| scientes | XRevan86, I still like the Hollywood version better :) | Feb 29 06:18 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It's Facebook (PRISM) saying they have a secure messaging app that they can't read. | Feb 29 06:27 |
| DaemonFC[m] | How stupid would you have to be to believe them? | Feb 29 06:27 |
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| scientes | DaemonFC[m], hehehe, I once tunneled OTP over Facebook, when their XMPP was more featureful | Feb 29 06:32 |
| scientes | and when I looked at the histroy, it was flagged as "encrypted conversation" | Feb 29 06:32 |
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| schestowitz | The offending message from ESR can be seen at the bottom here: http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2020-February/021328.html | Feb 29 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-lists.opensource.org | [License-discuss] Ethical open source licensing - Dual Licensing for Justice | Feb 29 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | via https://placeholderapi.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/esr-message-to | Feb 29 07:40 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-placeholderapi.wordpress.com | #esr message to #osi — the one that got him banned — I cannot fin… | Dr. Roy Schestowitz (罗伊) | Feb 29 07:40 | |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | You can’t find it because they censored it off the list and our of the archives. | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | This is the brave new OSI, embracing the suppression of its founder’s words. | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | by Eric S. Raymond February 28, 2020 at 12:47 pm edit comment | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Reply | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | It’s only quoted on the mailing list but it exists. | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2020-February/021328.html | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | " | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | Thanks for the pointer | Feb 29 07:41 |
| schestowitz | I think there's no evidence of physical threat or even threat to employment in it. Unless I'm missing something else. | Feb 29 07:42 |
| schestowitz | Eric, | Feb 29 07:43 |
| schestowitz | I'm confident that success at, um, fending this attack will benefit from | Feb 29 07:43 |
| schestowitz | our calm responses to the issues and our avoidance of responses that | Feb 29 07:43 |
| schestowitz | undermine the effectiveness of this list or further feed into the politics. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | This is not my first time seeing this conversation come up, nor it is | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | yours. OSD is not so fragile, nor is your counterattack so effective as to | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | be helpful. Given the public nature of open source conversations, the | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | expectations we have to participate in professional discourse, etc. let's | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | focus on ensuring the OSD continues to define open source properly. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Let me suggest that OSI members review the candidates who are running for | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | the 2020 Board of Directors for the OSI and consider their vote | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | https://wiki.opensource.org/bin/Main/OSI+Board+of+Directors/Board+Member+Elections/2020+Individual+and+Affiliate+Elections/ | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Gil Yehuda: I help with external technology engagement | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | >From the Open Source Program Office | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | <https://developer.yahoo.com/opensource/docs/> at Yahoo --> Oath - -> | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | Verizon Media | Feb 29 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.opensource.org | 2020 Board of Directors Election Candidates (Main.OSI Board of Directors.Board Member Elections.2020 Individual and Affiliate Elections.WebHome) - XWiki | Feb 29 07:44 | |
| schestowitz | On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 1:09 PM Eric S. Raymond <esr at thyrsus.com> wrote: | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > Gil Yehuda via License-discuss <license-discuss at lists.opensource.org>: | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > > Personally I'm confused about the details of the ESD, but that's OK, if I | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > > wanted to, I'd join the working group and learn more about it. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-developer.yahoo.com | About our Open Source Program Office (OSPO) - Yahoo Developer Network | Feb 29 07:44 | |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > Here is everything you need to know about the ESD: | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > * Its originator is a toxic loonytoon who believes "show me the code" | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > meritocracy is at best outmoded and in general a sinister supremacist | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > plot by straight white cisgender males. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > * The actual goal of the movement behind the ESD is to install political | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > officers on every open-source project, passing on what constitutes | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > "ethical" | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > and banishing contributors for wrongthink. Even off-project wrongthink. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > * They have already had an alarming degree of success at this through | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > the institution of "Codes of Conduct" on many projects. This *has* | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > led to the expulsion of productive contributors for un-PCness; it's | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > not just a problem in theory. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > * The "Persona Non Grata" clause is best understood as an attempt to | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > paralyze | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > resistance to such political ratfucking by subverting the | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > freedom-centered | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > principles of OSI. It is very unlikely to be the last such attempt. | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:44 |
| schestowitz | > Make no mistake; we are under attack. If we do not recognize the | Feb 29 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > nature of the attack and reject it, we risk watching the best features | Feb 29 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > of the open-source subculture be smothered by identity politics and | Feb 29 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > vulgar Marxism. | Feb 29 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > -- | Feb 29 07:45 |
| schestowitz | > <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> | Feb 29 07:45 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.catb.org | Eric S. Raymond's Home Page | Feb 29 07:45 | |
| schestowitz | > | Feb 29 07:45 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yahoo.... | Feb 29 08:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | heh | Feb 29 08:04 |
| schestowitz | yup | Feb 29 08:04 |
| schestowitz | but | Feb 29 08:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Verizon.... | Feb 29 08:04 |
| schestowitz | not his fault | Feb 29 08:04 |
| schestowitz | that he's in verizon now | Feb 29 08:04 |
| schestowitz | tried to keep his job | Feb 29 08:04 |
| DaemonFC[m] | That's how Feminazis see everything. | Feb 29 08:06 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | If there are standards they don't want to be held to, it must be an evil plot from men. | Feb 29 08:07 |
| DaemonFC[m] | In the US, healthcare is one of the few things that still pays enough money to live on. | Feb 29 08:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Women have set up a toxic culture of workplace harassment that drives men out of nursing. | Feb 29 08:11 |
| DaemonFC[m] | When they bitch about it, it's because they don't produce video games and programs that people want to use, and then they blame men for turning software into a complete sausagefest. | Feb 29 08:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And then after they piss us the hell off and some random guy says "Up yours, die!", in frustration, it's more proof of a conspiracy. | Feb 29 08:13 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Women are running the show for the most part whether they say it or not. | Feb 29 08:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | And any time someone doesn't go soft on them for being a woman, then it's a conspiracy again. | Feb 29 08:15 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If you're a guy and you do a shit job, nobody thinks twice about letting loose on you. | Feb 29 08:16 |
| DaemonFC[m] | If CoCs were going to change much of anything, we'd be seeing an uptick in women in software, and we aren't. | Feb 29 08:16 |
| tedbox | DaemonFC[m]: | Feb 29 08:19 |
| tedbox | We're discussing how to handle the #esr #osi thing. The details will be transparently apparent in tomorrow's IRC logs. | Feb 29 08:19 |
| tedbox | I was going to neither defend nor attack him, just show what OSI is censoring for people to decide if physical threats were, indeed, insinuated. | Feb 29 08:19 |
| tedbox | there's more on this in other channels of ours | Feb 29 08:19 |
| *tedbox is now known as roy-older-box | Feb 29 08:19 | |
| roy-older-box | but we try to handle this carefully | Feb 29 08:19 |
| roy-older-box | as some people would twist his words as ours otherwise... | Feb 29 08:19 |
| roy-older-box | [08:11] <DaemonFC[m]> Women have set up a toxic culture of workplace harassment that drives men out of nursing. | Feb 29 08:25 |
| roy-older-box | any articles on this? I heard something similar from someone else, maybe wrt flight attendants | Feb 29 08:26 |
| roy-older-box | the newspeak for steward/ess | Feb 29 08:26 |
| DaemonFC[m] | My personal experience and those of others I heard from. | Feb 29 08:28 |
| roy-older-box | men? | Feb 29 08:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I thought it might have been my fault but I found out it's pretty common for them to just gaslight you and nothing you do is right. | Feb 29 08:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Yeah. | Feb 29 08:29 |
| roy-older-box | or female nurses? | Feb 29 08:29 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The women. They want the place to themselves but they don't control the hiring, so you get in somewhere and then the coworkers and low level supervisors ride your case about stuff until you resign. | Feb 29 08:31 |
| roy-older-box | rianne says, based on her relatives, many men who are nurses are gay | Feb 29 08:31 |
| schestowitz | > I'm not finding anything obvious under that caption. I expect from the | Feb 29 08:35 |
| schestowitz | > context that it is about either ejecting people from projects to gain | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > control by non-technical, hostile parties or weakening and fragmenting | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > FOSS via licensing. Or both. I guess for the time being ESR should not | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > risk going hiking in Norway. | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | For FOSS/Wikileaks overlaps see (first link): | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/134607 | Feb 29 08:36 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Censorship in GNU and in Debian | Tux Machines | Feb 29 08:36 | |
| schestowitz | > There *is* another context for ethics, perhaps all the above is to | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > distract from that: there are growing calls for developers not to misuse | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > their talents facilitating things like Uber or Palantir and so on. That | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > is a legitimate topic but one that has little chance of getting off the | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | > ground. | Feb 29 08:36 |
| schestowitz | Financial insecurity as a driver. Less social security etc. means risk of homelessness for being too picky. | Feb 29 08:36 |
| DaemonFC[m] | <roy-older-box "rianne says, based on her relati"> Gay people are only barely tolerated in the Philippines. Probably because of all the religion. | Feb 29 08:39 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The Muslims are worse than the Christians, but what else is new? | Feb 29 08:40 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-says-microsoft-edge-isnt-secure-i-asked-why/ | Feb 29 08:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Google says Microsoft Edge isn't secure. I asked Google why | ZDNet | Feb 29 08:41 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | Vivaldi was getting crap like this and locked out Google sites and others. | Feb 29 08:41 |
| DaemonFC[m] | It reports that it is chrome now. | Feb 29 08:41 |
| schestowitz | > *All of my best decisions in business and in life have been made with | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > heart, intuition, guts... not analysis. If you can make a decision with | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > analysis, you should do so. But it turns out in life that your most | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > important decisions are always made with instinct, intuition, taste, heart.* | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > * | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > * | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | > https://www.inc.com/marcel-schwantes/jeff-bezos-says-your-most-important-decisions-in-life-should-always-be-made-this-way-but-it-will-make-many-uncomfortable.html?utm_medium=40digest.7days3.20200228.carousel&utm_source=email&utm_content=&utm_campaign=campaign | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | It helps that this con man does not pay tax and is propped up by his government. | Feb 29 08:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Jeff Bezos Says Your Most Important Decisions in Life Should Always Be Made This Way (but It Will Make Many Uncomfortable) | Inc.com | Feb 29 08:43 | |
| schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: vivaldi is a binary blob | Feb 29 08:43 |
| schestowitz | I see no appeal in it, no reason to use it | Feb 29 08:44 |
| schestowitz | just because it doesn't say "Google" on it? | Feb 29 08:44 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19120443 | Feb 29 12:29 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYupPFZjuJw | Feb 29 12:35 |
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| MinceR | 29 084106 < DaemonFC[m]> https://www.zdnet.com/article/google-says-microsoft-edge-isnt-secure-i-asked-why/ | Feb 29 17:19 |
| MinceR | this article was a pure waste of all the time i've spent on it | Feb 29 17:20 |
| MinceR | then again, what did i expect from zdnet... | Feb 29 17:20 |
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| CrystalMath | google chrome isn't secure | Feb 29 17:44 |
| MinceR | neither is Idiot Exploiter: Electric Boogaloo | Feb 29 17:45 |
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| schestowitz | ZDNet, MinceR http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/ZDNet | Feb 29 18:04 |
| schestowitz | see 2020 articles | Feb 29 18:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | ZDNet - Techrights | Feb 29 18:04 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | This one didn't even mention Bing and Windows pressuring people to use Edge. | Feb 29 18:17 |
| MinceR | no microsloth shill would | Feb 29 18:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | I was reading about IE Mode in the Chromium Edge and I was like eww gross. | Feb 29 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | IE is never really going away. | Feb 29 18:22 |
| DaemonFC[m] | Trident as part of IE 4/5 was ported to UNIX without ActiveX support. | Feb 29 18:24 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But I'm guessing the Mac and Linux versions of Edge won't have IE Mode. | Feb 29 18:24 |
| XRevan86 | I never even considered that they would. | Feb 29 18:26 |
| MinceR | is IE Mode an embedded IE via RadioActiveX? | Feb 29 18:28 |
| XRevan86 | Is it automatically enabled for websites that are in the Microsoft's compatibility list? | Feb 29 18:29 |
| XRevan86 | I think yes and I think that that's exactly what it's there for. | Feb 29 18:30 |
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| acer-box | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4wj3KDf2mo | Feb 29 19:15 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | IE Mode is Trident with ActiveX support. | Feb 29 19:39 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | You have to enable it as part of Group Policy though, so it can't just be triggered by a website. | Feb 29 19:39 |
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| XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Oh. Then it looks like too much effort for a "feature" that has to be enabled with a Group Policy. | Feb 29 19:43 |
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| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzgCDIUzq0 | Feb 29 20:17 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-"Indians are Cheap" | Russell Peters - Red, White, and Brown - YouTube | Feb 29 20:17 | |
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| tedbox | ha | Feb 29 20:27 |
| tedbox | I guess for him those jokes are OK | Feb 29 20:28 |
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| MinceR | therefore they're OK for everyone | Feb 29 20:29 |
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| MinceR | https://66.media.tumblr.com/585826da51a181d69b80176e6dc63106/2f072029ba9685ff-cb/s640x960/830a0ecc4ccfebd870d7fc9f2bbd90c54bf6ae90.png | Feb 29 20:43 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: :'-( | Feb 29 20:44 |
| DaemonFC[m] | The IE "Zone based security model" was such a huge fuck up that it's still a thing. | Feb 29 20:46 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/26/21154096/brave-browser-wayback-machine-404-internet-archive-lost-pages | Feb 29 20:46 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.theverge.com | Brave browser now automatically points to Wayback Machine on 404 - The Verge | Feb 29 20:46 | |
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| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19120237 | Feb 29 21:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object | Feb 29 21:05 | |
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| XRevan86 | (20:17:24) MinceR: (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzgCDIUzq0 | Feb 29 21:16 |
| XRevan86 | What a strange person. | Feb 29 21:16 |
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| MinceR | :) | Feb 29 21:17 |
| DaemonFC[m] | https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2020/02/27/brave-beats-other-browsers-in-privacy-study/ | Feb 29 21:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nakedsecurity.sophos.com | Brave beats other browsers in privacy study – Naked Security | Feb 29 21:30 | |
| DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: That awful ZDNet article said that Edge was better for privacy than Firefox. | Feb 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | But this detailed study shows it's actually the worst browser for privacy and that nothing you can do will turn off personally identifying info going to Microsoft. | Feb 29 21:30 |
| DaemonFC[m] | You can turn off some, but not the worst of it. | Feb 29 21:31 |
| MinceR | empirical evidence shows that a lot of useds are satisfied by being able to turn off _some_ of the spying activities the products they use have | Feb 29 21:32 |
| MinceR | and they will defend it fiercely | Feb 29 21:32 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I wrote this on my Facebook. | Feb 29 21:34 |
| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kQGLxnPhPAkNvAoVeMYHHbVh > | Feb 29 21:34 | |
| MinceR | https://ircz.de/p/19120235 | Feb 29 21:35 |
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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lKYTbmyAZbWmiqbpnlgxzysU > | Feb 29 21:46 | |
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| *DaemonFC[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ciiYlFHfVQZnyuRIyzcSpGWp > | Feb 29 22:01 | |
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| DaemonFC[m] | I don't even think that Firefox is worth the space on my SSD anymore, honestly. | Feb 29 22:09 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They had an identity crisis and then a budget crisis. | Feb 29 22:11 |
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| DaemonFC[m] | They'll be gone in a few more years. | Feb 29 22:11 |
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| MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/19120360 | Feb 29 23:35 |
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