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| schestowitz | few people use it | Oct 29 00:00 |
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| schestowitz | earlier this year Ariadne said only about 150k people used it worldwide | Oct 29 00:00 |
| oiaohm | hyper-v quirks that WSL2 has don't match to what AWS and other providers. | Oct 29 00:00 |
| schestowitz | and Microsoft could not refuse | Oct 29 00:00 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can't even mount a USB drive on WSL2 without doing janky HTTP workarounds | Oct 29 00:00 |
| schestowitz | the Program Manager was hopping mad, he could not refute | Oct 29 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Heck WSL2 has extra quirks Azure hosting does not have. | Oct 29 00:00 |
| oiaohm | Its better to run host native Linux with Windows guest than WSL2 in Windows. | Oct 29 00:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > Its better to run host native Linux with Windows guest than WSL2 in Windows. | Oct 29 00:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what any reasonable person would do | Oct 29 00:01 |
| oiaohm | I do run a few programs in wine. | Oct 29 00:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Tbh though, nothing comes close to how nice Bhyve is (The FreeBSD type 2 hypervisor) | Oct 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | But they have gold or better raitings. | Oct 29 00:02 |
| oiaohm | kvm in Linux is not bad. | Oct 29 00:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If I want VMs, I always go for bhyve | Oct 29 00:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The config is dead easy, performance is slick, and interface is super easy to automate | Oct 29 00:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Everything you want in a VM solution | Oct 29 00:03 |
| oiaohm | kvm is a little better than Bhyve if you have to be passing thought the nvidia nightmare consumer cards. | Oct 29 00:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Haven't had to deal with that particular use case | Oct 29 00:03 |
| oiaohm | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF#%22Error_43:_Driver_failed_to_load%22_with_mobile_(Optimus/max-q)_nvidia_GPUs You get into doing some wacky things. | Oct 29 00:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-wiki.archlinux.org | PCI passthrough via OVMF - ArchWiki | Oct 29 00:05 | |
| oiaohm | KVM I will give is not as straight forwards as bhyve but those extra options at times get important. | Oct 29 00:06 |
| schestowitz | Weird. The encoding seems wrong | Oct 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt | Oct 29 00:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Missing content type. Ignoring. | Oct 29 00:10 | |
| schestowitz | yesterday I'm pretty sure it was not an issue | Oct 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | firefox and falkon use the wrong charset | Oct 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | but not if opened as .text | Oct 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | or .txt | Oct 29 00:10 |
| schestowitz | They render this one with the correct charset | Oct 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt-archives/techrights-2020-10-28.txt | Oct 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | kate handles both correctly | Oct 29 00:11 |
| schestowitz | maybe there's something in the file itself that causes it to fall back onto another charset? | Oct 29 00:12 |
| schestowitz | chromium-browser does the same | Oct 29 00:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If the filename is affecting it, might be just a "extention" recognition hard-coding | Oct 29 00:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | extension* | Oct 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz | yesterday it was not an issue, iirc, so maybe the newer file has something in it like an odd latin char or chinese | Oct 29 00:14 |
| schestowitz | will try a bunch of other dates | Oct 29 00:16 |
| schestowitz | Checking for date: 10/26/ | Oct 29 00:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Try `file -i <filename>` | Oct 29 00:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Should tell you what the encoding is | Oct 29 00:17 |
| schestowitz | 26th same issue | Oct 29 00:18 |
| schestowitz | file -i techrights-2020-10-26.txt | Oct 29 00:18 |
| schestowitz | techrights-2020-10-26.txt: text/plain; charset=utf-8 | Oct 29 00:18 |
| schestowitz | checking on the server now | Oct 29 00:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Welp. charset is just fine | Oct 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | same on the server | Oct 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | maybe mime-types | Oct 29 00:19 |
| schestowitz | let's see what happens if I reproduce 27th | Oct 29 00:20 |
| schestowitz | I did change of 'clean up' the code since.. maybe that broke something | Oct 29 00:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `file -i` is the MIME type :P | Oct 29 00:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `-i` is a synonym for `--mime` in `file(1)`. | Oct 29 00:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe the issue was there yesterday and I just did not notice it | Oct 29 00:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Kate works just fine | Oct 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | browsers do not, except with the file extensions | Oct 29 00:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's Firefox and Chrome being dumb, probably | Oct 29 00:22 |
| schestowitz | technically they're the same file | Oct 29 00:23 |
| schestowitz | if I set txt to be a softlink | Oct 29 00:23 |
| schestowitz | can I make the softlink dynamic based on date? | Oct 29 00:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't know what you mean by "dynamic based on date" | Oct 29 00:24 |
| schestowitz | text -> /tmp/archive/some regex/bash | Oct 29 00:25 |
| schestowitz | or I could set that to redirect at the server level | Oct 29 00:26 |
| schestowitz | but that would be awkward for some fetchers | Oct 29 00:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Not that I'm aware of | Oct 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | or could make txt a directory | Oct 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | but then it would look for index.html, php etc. | Oct 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | unless apache is told otherwise | Oct 29 00:27 |
| schestowitz | what it the txt file is being given a filename .html? | Oct 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | like index.html, made invisible by dir structure, ~/txt | Oct 29 00:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It may just be your locale settings not matching with browser | Oct 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | ~/public_html/txt rather | Oct 29 00:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I wouldn't do anything janky with filenames | Oct 29 00:28 |
| schestowitz | maybe I change env settings | Oct 29 00:29 |
| schestowitz | let's try something | Oct 29 00:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Might just be what I said earlier | Oct 29 00:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Browsers are doing what Windows does | Oct 29 00:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Shoving semantics into filenames | Oct 29 00:30 |
| schestowitz | if I make it index.html it is interpreted as html | Oct 29 00:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because I have the same problem when I open both files | Oct 29 00:30 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: both as in? | Oct 29 00:30 |
| schestowitz | the one in txt-archive also? | Oct 29 00:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The txt and .txt version | Oct 29 00:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | .txt version has the unicode load just fine | Oct 29 00:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | txt doesn't | Oct 29 00:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I get rectangles with hexcode in them | Oct 29 00:31 |
| schestowitz | ah, ok | Oct 29 00:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Bed time for me though | Oct 29 00:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Have a good night all | Oct 29 00:32 |
| schestowitz | maybe techrights.org/txt should just point to the index with archives? | Oct 29 00:33 |
| schestowitz | though it's easier to use cron job to just fetch the same url each day | Oct 29 00:33 |
| schestowitz | gn, vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Oct 29 00:33 |
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| schestowitz | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/13537371/displayerror-of-textfile-in-browser | Oct 29 00:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stackoverflow.com | google chrome - Displayerror of textfile in browser - Stack Overflow | Oct 29 00:35 | |
| schestowitz | aha! | Oct 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt/ | Oct 29 00:37 |
| schestowitz | worked like a charm, I >THINK< | Oct 29 00:37 |
| *schestowitz testing | Oct 29 00:37 | |
| schestowitz | cat index.php | Oct 29 00:38 |
| schestowitz | 1 0.06 131.4 7.3 /2010/02/27/bada-and-lg-ereader � 1 0.04 5.4 0.2 /print/141735 <?php | Oct 29 00:38 |
| schestowitz | 1 0.25 217.7 54.4 /2010/05/ � 1 0.04 91.9 3.5 /node/139242 �header ('Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8'); | Oct 29 00:38 |
| schestowitz | 1 0.33 4.5 1.5 /2011/05/31/society-pays-collec � 1 0.04 49.9 2.0 /blog/25290/feed readfile ('txt'); | Oct 29 00:38 |
| schestowitz | 1 0.33 2.4 0.8 /2011/11/02/sign-the-new-white- � 1 0.04 5.8 0.2 /gallery/v/suse103r1/onlineupdate17 ?> | Oct 29 00:38 |
| schestowitz | yes, it's solved now | Oct 29 00:42 |
| schestowitz | php forces it to serve with utf8 | Oct 29 00:42 |
| schestowitz | and it's done transparently to the url requester | Oct 29 00:42 |
| schestowitz | now let's force Daily Links to always be last/at bottom | Oct 29 00:44 |
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| schestowitz | done, testing now | Oct 29 01:24 |
| schestowitz | works, ok, improving text decos | Oct 29 01:26 |
| schestowitz | ascii boxes | Oct 29 01:30 |
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| schestowitz | it now takes about a minute to generate for each day | Oct 29 01:43 |
| schestowitz | mostly server-side latency | Oct 29 01:43 |
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| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt-archives/ | Oct 29 02:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Archives | Oct 29 02:41 | |
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| psydread | > https://www.osr.com/blog/2020/10/15/microsoft-driver-updates-allowed-win7-win8/ Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8 << Let the end of life games begin. | Oct 29 05:41 |
| psydread | I have little sympathy for companies that still depend on and ship Vista 10 for mission-critical purposes. If anything they should be moving to GNU/Linux, QNX and the likes, where they can actually support the hardware without having to depend on a single massive point of failure as Microsoft happens to be | Oct 29 05:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft: No Driver Updates Allowed for Win7 and Win8 – OSR | Oct 29 05:41 | |
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| schestowitz | x https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/523172-microsoft-iranian-hacking-group-targeting-major-international-security | Oct 29 07:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Microsoft: Iranian hacking group targeting attendees of major international security conferences | TheHill | Oct 29 07:29 | |
| schestowitz | # M$ is the main cause of the vulnerabilities, and just making a distraction | Oct 29 07:29 |
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| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/GIMP/comments/8jypi7/file_create_logo_missing_from_210/ | Oct 29 08:48 |
| schestowitz | "Seems these scripts aren't supplied with Gimp by default any more. The old scripts seem to work in 2.10.. well at least minimally." | Oct 29 08:48 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | File => Create => Logo - missing from 2.10? : GIMP | Oct 29 08:48 | |
| schestowitz | This is really dumb a decision | Oct 29 08:48 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 33 Run Through http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143702#comment-26931 [https://pleroma.site/objects/963f8b7e-9480-40d8-ae9a-94b9c1f71578] | Oct 29 10:51 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Saw that Krita is being flagged as malware on Windows | Oct 29 10:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In the Krita 4.4.1 release notes | Oct 29 10:55 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Micro$oft resorting to dirty tactics to keep their Adobe buddies afloat | Oct 29 10:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Source: https://krita.org/en/item/krita-4-4-1-released/ | Oct 29 10:57 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-krita.org | Krita 4.4.1 Released | Krita | Oct 29 10:57 | |
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| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: thanks, I have just mentioned that | Oct 29 11:20 |
| schestowitz | in case it helps put pressure on the thugs from Redmond | Oct 29 11:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Your RSS is where I got it from | Oct 29 11:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Just added tuxmachines to my aggregator | Oct 29 11:21 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19310028 | Oct 29 11:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: "Saw that #Krita is being flagged as malware on Windows In the Krita 4.4.1 release notes #Micro$oft resorting to dirty tactics to keep their Adobe buddies afloat Source: https://krita.org/en/item/krita-4-4-1-released/ "-Anon in #techrights IRC | Oct 29 11:21 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: ah, ok, makes sense | Oct 29 11:21 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #digiKam 7.2.0-beta1 is released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143772 •●• #GNU #Linux #TuxMachines #News [https://pleroma.site/objects/c0037679-1261-480a-8fa2-427a2195fe61] | Oct 29 11:22 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Out of curiosity, which language do you guys use for all your convenience scripting? | Oct 29 11:22 |
| schestowitz | bash | Oct 29 11:22 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/txt-archives/ | Oct 29 11:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Very nice. I like how you added metadata too | Oct 29 11:23 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: you left quite abruptly last night, shortly before I solved the encoding issue with an index.php that imports the text file, imposing utf charset on that | Oct 29 11:23 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: not too sensitive metadata | Oct 29 11:23 |
| schestowitz | helps show when it was last uploaded etc. | Oct 29 11:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Sorry about that. I was very tired | Oct 29 11:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good you got it sorted. | Oct 29 11:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been moving my bash scripts to Raku recently. It's been saving me a lot of time. Are you lot aware of the language? | Oct 29 11:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's very Bash-like so it feels like a natural extension. | Oct 29 11:26 |
| schestowitz | we have a whole section in daily links for rakulang | Oct 29 11:27 |
| schestowitz | perl/raku | Oct 29 11:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah | Oct 29 11:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been around it for a few years now | Oct 29 11:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But I've actually invested time into using it in my production systems now | Oct 29 11:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They have Alpine container images as well. So it's very simple to run in production | Oct 29 11:28 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: IPFire 2.25 - Core Update 152 is available for testing • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143773 [https://pleroma.site/objects/cc1f969e-12cd-41e0-9981-48b0c7578e10] | Oct 29 11:29 | |
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| schestowitz | techrights and tuxmachines are on alipine | Oct 29 11:30 |
| schestowitz | *alpine | Oct 29 11:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Good stuff | Oct 29 11:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | In Raku, a simple wrapper is actually simple to write | Oct 29 11:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `run <ls -al>;` | Oct 29 11:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's it | Oct 29 11:32 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Qt Creator 4.14 Beta released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143774 [https://pleroma.site/objects/097a7ab6-3f8b-48ae-bc39-273db08f859b] | Oct 29 11:32 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The bit I really like about Raku is that mathematics is simple and easy to do. Iteration has convenient syntax. There's intuitive syntax for handling sets too. | Oct 29 11:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I feel like that solves one of the biggest pain points in Bash. Lack of mathematics integration. | Oct 29 11:33 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 10 Best Free and Open Source Linux Revision Control Tools http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143775 [https://pleroma.site/objects/aff312c8-53ef-4483-86a4-4fdaa27a5cff] | Oct 29 11:34 | |
| schestowitz | is raku portable easily? | Oct 29 11:34 |
| schestowitz | I mean, many things have bash | Oct 29 11:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yes. Raku is very portable | Oct 29 11:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | FreeBSD has Raku ports | Oct 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz | but when you move raku stuff to them, they might not cope with deps | Oct 29 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Raku even compiles to Javascript | Oct 29 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you want to do that | Oct 29 11:35 |
| schestowitz | are they being like php and python where old code 'stops' working? | Oct 29 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't think so | Oct 29 11:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Old code I wrote still runs | Oct 29 11:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's very abstract | Oct 29 11:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So if they change things, you don't notice | Oct 29 11:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because of how abstract the syntax is | Oct 29 11:36 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Krita 4.4.1 Released • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143776 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b1c2cbc4-6ae6-4a8f-a2e5-4aebc2a2be4c] | Oct 29 11:36 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `podman pull jjmerelo/alpine-raku` | Oct 29 11:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Try it out | Oct 29 11:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | JJ maintains the Alpine images. They're very clean. | Oct 29 11:39 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Android Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143777 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f6ea26c5-fdcc-461b-bbd1-a1cf191d0623] | Oct 29 11:40 | |
| schestowitz | [11:36] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> Old code I wrote still runs | Oct 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz | how old/ | Oct 29 11:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | 1.5 years? | Oct 29 11:42 |
| schestowitz | I still use some bash scripts I wrote 2 decades back | Oct 29 11:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can use Raku to wrap your Bash scripts :D | Oct 29 11:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The main point here is saving time | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | yeah, but then that kind of defeats the purpose | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | btw http://techrights.org/txt-archives/ is in PHP | Oct 29 11:43 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Oct 29 11:43 | |
| schestowitz | a sort of fork of something I found in sourceforge aaaages ago | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | maybe 2004 | Oct 29 11:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Think of Raku as kind of a glue that goes around other glue | Oct 29 11:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | superglue | Oct 29 11:43 |
| schestowitz | supermario | Oct 29 11:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It has grammars | Oct 29 11:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Which most other languages don't | Oct 29 11:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So writing a parser is quick and easy | Oct 29 11:44 |
| schestowitz | BTW, it is based on http://schestowitz.com/temp/ | Oct 29 11:44 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com | Temporary Files Dump | Oct 29 11:44 | |
| schestowitz | that's where I used to drop files for showing in newsgroups etc. | Oct 29 11:44 |
| schestowitz | before all the 'clown computing hype' | Oct 29 11:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | PHP is great | Oct 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz | you drag and drop an image over ftp, then it shows up with preview | Oct 29 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's neat | Oct 29 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I like to keep up with PHP just because of WordPress | Oct 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz | you can tell the age based on the images there | Oct 29 11:45 |
| schestowitz | old kde3 and stuff | Oct 29 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah | Oct 29 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I saw the calendar | Oct 29 11:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | > before all the 'clown computing hype' | Oct 29 11:46 |
| schestowitz | The bottom picture is ubuntu 4.10 on my machine at MCC | Oct 29 11:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been working on writing some Containerfiles for F-droid app servers which replace those | Oct 29 11:47 |
| schestowitz | it was still a lot like debian back then, also ncurses installer | Oct 29 11:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There's a ton of great apps on F-Droid | Oct 29 11:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Most of them can all be run on a Raspberry Pi | Oct 29 11:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The server part | Oct 29 11:47 |
| XRevan86 | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: I'm sure Ariadne can have better things on their iPhone %). | Oct 29 11:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm wrapping the DNS setup with Raku scripts and bundling the server code in containers. | Oct 29 11:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Should be workable for non-IT people by the end of it | Oct 29 11:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't have an iPhone | Oct 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz | I am CON-tainers | Oct 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz | I think they're overused | Oct 29 11:49 |
| schestowitz | (and I know how they work) | Oct 29 11:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They have their place | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | we end up with too many directory trees | Oct 29 11:50 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I use them for quick isolation | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | VMs are too great either | Oct 29 11:50 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I can run a lot more containers on my Raspberry Pi than VMs | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | virtualenv is more minimalist | Oct 29 11:50 |
| schestowitz | don't forget the container in the container in your VM... that one needs patching too ;0) | Oct 29 11:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't go that crazy | Oct 29 11:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think containers are a great solution to self-hosting app deployment. | Oct 29 11:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And development too. I don't need to worry about dependency issues anymore. I just build a new container for each compile run. | Oct 29 11:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It made programming in C fun again | Oct 29 11:54 |
| schestowitz | when did it stop being fun? | Oct 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz | linux is still c, a lot of gnu is also | Oct 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz | the toolchain apparently has too much perl (github /:) in it | Oct 29 11:55 |
| schestowitz | c is still c, old code still works | Oct 29 11:56 |
| schestowitz | no fake novelty like with "Frameworks" | Oct 29 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's because of the time I save not having to debug silly environment issues | Oct 29 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Linux uses Docker now in its tests | Oct 29 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's in the official Git repo | Oct 29 11:56 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been experimenting with Podman recently for more security-sensitive stuff | Oct 29 11:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Bottom line is it saves time. | Oct 29 11:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I got a bit pissed off when Docker was delaying cgoupv2 integration over and over for no good reason | Oct 29 11:59 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19310278 | Oct 29 11:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #ibm #redhat shilling #systemd for everything... https://opensource.com/article/20/10/cgroups | Oct 29 11:59 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> Managing resources with cgroups in systemd | Opensource.com | Oct 29 11:59 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | systemd has its place | Oct 29 12:01 |
| schestowitz | so do grape kernels | Oct 29 12:02 |
| schestowitz | systemd might be of some use on large servers | Oct 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz | google rejects it for chromeOS | Oct 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz | too much for too little | Oct 29 12:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I use on my Rpi to orchestrate everything | Oct 29 12:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Again, saves me having to implement all the things I get for free like `journalctl` | Oct 29 12:03 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s #HowTos | #UNIX • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143778 [https://pleroma.site/objects/49301458-1631-49b8-930c-b16b60f74463] | Oct 29 12:03 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's still better than being locked behind a GUI | Oct 29 12:03 |
| schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19310324 | Oct 29 12:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: #wayland is a lot like #systemd ... you sort of break or replace things that already worked OK, just so that you're in control of the 'solution' http://techrights.org/2020/09/26/appeal-to-novelty-as-a-lever-for-proprietary-software-monopolies-bloat-planned-obsolescence-and-more-surveillance/ | Oct 29 12:04 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | ‘Appeal to Novelty’ as a Lever for Proprietary Software Monopolies, Bloat (Planned Obsolescence) and More Surveillance | Techrights | Oct 29 12:04 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: iirc, it makes it logs binary | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | or binary-stored met | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | meta | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | which seems like a really bad practice | Oct 29 12:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I didn't look into that too deeply | Oct 29 12:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I only use the A(P|B)Is | Oct 29 12:05 |
| schestowitz | https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1y6q0l/systemds_binary_logs_and_corruption/ | Oct 29 12:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | barely see my Pi break a sweat with systemd. So it's fine for now | Oct 29 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.reddit.com | systemd's binary logs and corruption : linux | Oct 29 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7639386 | Oct 29 12:06 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-news.ycombinator.com | What's wrong with binary logs? Seems like an improvement, given how they can be ... | Hacker News | Oct 29 12:06 | |
| schestowitz | MinceR might know more | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | he puts systemd where he spits his grape kernels | Oct 29 12:06 |
| schestowitz | hey, let's make the whole OS binary | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | security through obscurity and all | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | no more worries | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | cipherOS | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | trust IBM... | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | the TPM behemoth | Oct 29 12:07 |
| schestowitz | "Some things are better left to adults.... and Watson... and his buddy Adolf" | Oct 29 12:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If it becomes a problem I will find a replacement | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | tinkering is terrorism after all | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | "Why would you wanna do THAT?" | Oct 29 12:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | systemd is GPL | Oct 29 12:08 |
| schestowitz | and 1.5m LOCs | Oct 29 12:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So? | Oct 29 12:09 |
| schestowitz | so it's hard to participate in | Oct 29 12:09 |
| schestowitz | and you need a Microsoft account | Oct 29 12:09 |
| schestowitz | it's developed on Microsoft servers | Oct 29 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | GnuPG with all the dependencies is also close to that | Oct 29 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | libgcrypt and all that | Oct 29 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I can fork the source and modify it | Oct 29 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what matters to me | Oct 29 12:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | 1.5m LOC is actually pretty good for the amount of things systemd does | Oct 29 12:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I thought it was a lot more | Oct 29 12:11 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: EndeavourOS is a Wholesome Arch-Based Distribution • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143779 [https://pleroma.site/objects/60eb7115-a664-42d0-a6d6-7b1ca54a5727] | Oct 29 12:12 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The binary logs thing is a bit weird though | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | I did not look into it | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | but saw that in passing several times | Oct 29 12:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Logs should always be plaintext | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | I just use normal logs | Oct 29 12:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah | Oct 29 12:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I agree with that | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | it feels like building a dependency on GUIs | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | which I don't want to do | Oct 29 12:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Same | Oct 29 12:13 |
| schestowitz | gnoem, gnome2, gnome3, kde5, qt6... | Oct 29 12:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If it goes down that direction, I'll just switch | Oct 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz | they keep changing guis | Oct 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz | and my workflow breaks | Oct 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz | same for systemd, it's an ibm thing | Oct 29 12:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | systemd is a Poettering thing | Oct 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz | Poettering is a systemd thing :-) | Oct 29 12:14 |
| schestowitz | prozzzesss einssss... | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | imagine this | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | you depend on one dev and ilk | Oct 29 12:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It was around way before the IBM takeover | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | and that dev is an IBM employee | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | indebted to their greedy agenda | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | traditionally linux wasn't like that | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | xfs is ibm | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | ext3-4 not so much | Oct 29 12:15 |
| schestowitz | also I think tso moved from ibm to google | Oct 29 12:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | To me it ends at the license | Oct 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz | where mjg59 works | Oct 29 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It it's GPL or BSD, I will use it | Oct 29 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Apache or MIT works too | Oct 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz | it can be "abandoned" | Oct 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz | according to phoronix, something billions of people use is "abandonware" | Oct 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz | :-) | Oct 29 12:16 |
| schestowitz | even if it matured for 34 years | Oct 29 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think abandonware is kind of a compliment | Oct 29 12:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If your systems can run on the same image for that long | Oct 29 12:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You've done something right | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | it /mostly | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | mostly/ works | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | I have many xtools in my scripts | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | so no way I'll move to wayland | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | and I doubt those tools will be ported to wayland | Oct 29 12:17 |
| schestowitz | haha. is wayland doing x forwarding properly yet? | Oct 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz | maybe by 2030 | Oct 29 12:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't think wayland does anything with forwarding yet | Oct 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 29 12:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's not a priority | Oct 29 12:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Which is strange | Oct 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz | then red hat should keep us well away from that pile of crap of theirs | Oct 29 12:18 |
| schestowitz | (and intel) | Oct 29 12:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Tbh, X forwarding is kind of a GUI trap as well | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | they really don't care about actual users | Oct 29 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | SSH is good enough | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | just corporate CLIENTS | Oct 29 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't use X forwarding | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | I do, a lot | Oct 29 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | because I don't like GUI-based workflows | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | since 2001 | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | systemd is gui | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | ncurses-like | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | not quit, but similar | Oct 29 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No it's not | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | with colours and all | Oct 29 12:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I use it without any ncurses | Oct 29 12:19 |
| schestowitz | some terminals might not support it properly | Oct 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | even remotely | Oct 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | wayland without x forwarding | Oct 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | yeah, let's go back to the 1990s | Oct 29 12:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think they are relying on some VNC or something | Oct 29 12:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what I read | Oct 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | and KDE will tell use qt3 sucks and all we need are useless "plasmoids" | Oct 29 12:20 |
| schestowitz | like they mimicked osx | Oct 29 12:21 |
| schestowitz | maybe kde should also remove support for >1 mouse button | Oct 29 12:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I only use GUIs for data analysis | Oct 29 12:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Where it's actually a good use case | Oct 29 12:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I just stream database over secure tunnels | Oct 29 12:21 |
| schestowitz | I make my guis with dialogue now | Oct 29 12:22 |
| schestowitz | dialog | Oct 29 12:22 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And then the consumer machine render the graphics | Oct 29 12:22 |
| schestowitz | I made one for rianne also | Oct 29 12:22 |
| schestowitz | ncurses and portable | Oct 29 12:22 |
| schestowitz | I support tkl and yad or similar would just slow things down and add to the dependency chain | Oct 29 12:23 |
| schestowitz | for no practical purpose | Oct 29 12:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's amusing to see Grafana actually use the workflow I've been using for ages | Oct 29 12:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Streaming from a remote database and rendering graphics on consumer is the right way to do monitoring | Oct 29 12:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That way your server doesn't run unnecessary bloat | Oct 29 12:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And you can have heavy GUI software running on your terminal | Oct 29 12:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You get to have your cake and eat it | Oct 29 12:26 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And just use mTLS to stream your data. Self-signed certs. | Oct 29 12:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There | Oct 29 12:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Zero trust securiy | Oct 29 12:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | security* | Oct 29 12:27 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: XDA partners with F(x)tec to make a phone that runs LineageOS and Ubuntu Touch OS http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143705#comment-26933 [https://pleroma.site/objects/41e34a9a-ebbb-4910-b04f-fb7c4540eacd] | Oct 29 12:29 | |
| schestowitz | I use tmux | Oct 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz | better than all guis I have seen | Oct 29 12:30 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I love tmux | Oct 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz | and I made it work for me | Oct 29 12:30 |
| schestowitz | http://tuxmachines.org/node/142351 | Oct 29 12:30 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-tuxmachines.org | Monitoring Tux Machines With Apachetop, Nmon and Htop | Tux Machines | Oct 29 12:30 | |
| schestowitz | tmux just needs to DeleteGithub | Oct 29 12:31 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | With the whole youtube-dl thing | Oct 29 12:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Devs will start to look for alternatives | Oct 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz | github=nsa also | Oct 29 12:32 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Microsoft_and_the_NSA | Oct 29 12:32 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Microsoft and the NSA - Techrights | Oct 29 12:32 | |
| schestowitz | I'll post Daily Links soon, then do some articles | Oct 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz | topic welcome, I don't have any good topics in mine this week | Oct 29 12:33 |
| schestowitz | (which is why I'm coding some things instead) | Oct 29 12:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Plug the new Raku RSS updates | Oct 29 12:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They could use some love :D | Oct 29 12:35 |
| schestowitz | what's the url? | Oct 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | we already have raku rss feeds in the list | Oct 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | raku weekly | Oct 29 12:37 |
| schestowitz | problem is, to many projects "twitter account" if their "updates" | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | or facebook page and "instagram me" | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | rust uses shithub | Oct 29 12:38 |
| schestowitz | even for some announcements | Oct 29 12:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | http://pl6anet.org/ | Oct 29 12:38 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-pl6anet.org | Planet Raku | Oct 29 12:38 | |
| schestowitz | they think a github page is legit announcement avenue | Oct 29 12:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | RSS/Atom is the best announcement avenue | Oct 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | https://pl6anet.org/atom.xml | Oct 29 12:39 |
| schestowitz | Firefox doesn't even support atom/xml/rss anymore | Oct 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | to 'help us' | Oct 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | they removed support | Oct 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | and they just kept a renderer for it | Oct 29 12:40 |
| schestowitz | BUT THEY GAVE US POCKeT!! :-) gee, thanks | Oct 29 12:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah it's pretty obscene | Oct 29 12:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm working on a mass public education campaign for a few things in that respect | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | mozilla PARTICIPATED in "War on RSS" | Oct 29 12:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's going to be 100% | Oct 29 12:41 |
| schestowitz | and they justified this using their surveillance ("telemetry') | Oct 29 12:41 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | free* | Oct 29 12:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And DRM-free too | Oct 29 12:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Like everything I do | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | mozilla wants me to LOG IN to use the browser | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | sounds... goolish devilish | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | Oct 29 12:42 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yep | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | your place at Mozilla | Oct 29 12:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Data mining | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | proprietary until they bought it | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | and then they can pin ads in your new tabs | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | they did this in firefox esr | Oct 29 12:42 |
| schestowitz | when I updated it | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | I had to go disable it | Oct 29 12:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I was advised by a few people to put DRM into something I published. I ignored it | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | you don't want new distraction when you open a tab | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | leave that shit to FB and Twitter | Oct 29 12:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I got many thank you emails for making my publication DRM free | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | to tell you what the news is when you never ever asked for it | Oct 29 12:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People still buy it | Oct 29 12:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Indeed. I agree | Oct 29 12:43 |
| schestowitz | planet raku is low traffic | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | 6 items this month | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | easy for me to cope with | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | planet python is a lot | Oct 29 12:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Still more than I put out :') | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | as much as 10 a day | Oct 29 12:44 |
| schestowitz | half of those 6 I already posted | Oct 29 12:45 |
| schestowitz | as it's raku weekly | Oct 29 12:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ah | Oct 29 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Give it a try though | Oct 29 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You'll save a lot of time | Oct 29 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Raku scripts, that is | Oct 29 12:46 |
| schestowitz | I see only about a dozen active people in the planet | Oct 29 12:46 |
| schestowitz | and I guess you are one of them | Oct 29 12:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't really interact with them directly | Oct 29 12:46 |
| schestowitz | but none of them with a password-like name ( "vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx") | Oct 29 12:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I do stuff in the background and plug them around the internet | Oct 29 12:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's like that for most of the things I use. I like to let the project be the project. | Oct 29 12:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Sometimes I email the maintainers about stuff that I think is a threat to their project | Oct 29 12:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I cba to come up with usernames | Oct 29 12:48 |
| schestowitz | I know your username now | Oct 29 12:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So `openssl rand -base64 n` it is. :') | Oct 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | maybe your password if bob | Oct 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx; bob | Oct 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | "you're doing it wrong, bob!!" :-) | Oct 29 12:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | D: I've been found out | Oct 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | like fingerprints being basically a password anyone can see and you cannpot change | Oct 29 12:49 |
| schestowitz | (well, you can, but it's expensive and physically painful) | Oct 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz | wow, this planet's rss feeds goes back to 2018 | Oct 29 12:50 |
| schestowitz | like some abandoned blogs' :-) | Oct 29 12:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They're very small and don't have much to work with | Oct 29 12:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Leave them alone | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | I saw some sites whose rss feed is an exhaustive list of everything | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | until it's like a megabyte download each time | Oct 29 12:51 |
| schestowitz | they use shit cms and shitty developers "add" a so-called "feed" for them | Oct 29 12:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think the right way is to archive old RSS | Oct 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz | SELECT URL from TABLE where ... nothing | Oct 29 12:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And then just plug a magnet link to a torrent for the archive in a new RSS | Oct 29 12:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | RSS post* | Oct 29 12:52 |
| schestowitz | drm https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/soumya-sriraman-to-lead-channels-business-at-amazon-prime-video | Oct 29 12:59 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.hollywoodreporter.com | Soumya Sriraman to Lead Channels Business at Amazon Prime Video | Hollywood Reporter | Oct 29 12:59 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Proprietary Software and Microsoft Security Problems • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143780 [https://pleroma.site/objects/51feccca-00c5-4c4a-9a04-79c0f4c618f7] | Oct 29 13:02 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | DRM is a great way to get young people to hate you | Oct 29 13:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So I welcome them to use more DRM! | Oct 29 13:02 |
| schestowitz | apparently many people fall fro that scam | Oct 29 13:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It pushes more people to torrents | Oct 29 13:02 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Which is a win in my book | Oct 29 13:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The only way to save the internet is to get it back to being decentralised | Oct 29 13:06 |
| thddx | go gemini | Oct 29 13:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Gemini? | Oct 29 13:07 |
| thddx | basically encrypted gopher | Oct 29 13:07 |
| thddx | simple enough for folks to easily host their presence on a pi or similar sbc | Oct 29 13:07 |
| thddx | and support for mime types so can theoretically support better file handling than gopher | Oct 29 13:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'll give it a look, thanks. | Oct 29 13:08 |
| schestowitz | I heard of it, but wonder how many users it has | Oct 29 13:09 |
| schestowitz | and also how many decent sites support it | Oct 29 13:10 |
| schestowitz | "The Internet? We are not interested in it." -Bill Gates, 1993 | Oct 29 13:10 |
| thddx | haha. a visionary | Oct 29 13:10 |
| schestowitz | maybe we can work around the centralised and monopolised web | Oct 29 13:10 |
| schestowitz | thddx: covidhead | Oct 29 13:10 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I feel like Roy has Tmux macros for Bill Gates quotes. lol | Oct 29 13:10 |
| schestowitz | they saw he "foresaw" a pandemic | Oct 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | like... there was never a pandemic before :-) :0) | Oct 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | I foresee a war | Oct 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | trust me, man... | Oct 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | there will be a war... "soon" | Oct 29 13:11 |
| schestowitz | sop buy weapons | Oct 29 13:12 |
| schestowitz | *so | Oct 29 13:12 |
| thddx | anyone that pays attention to the present and has half-decent information looks like a soothsayer in this environment | Oct 29 13:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Don't worry | Oct 29 13:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Just give him your private keys | Oct 29 13:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You don't need end-to-end encryption | Oct 29 13:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You did nothing wrong | Oct 29 13:13 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You have nothing to hide | Oct 29 13:13 |
| thddx | "nothing to hide". amazing how well that messaging works | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: he already asks for that | Oct 29 13:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I know | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/08/14/control-but-no-accountability/ | Oct 29 13:14 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | High-Level Criminals Associate Privacy With Crime Because They Want Privacy Only for Themselves (Control But No Accountability) | Techrights | Oct 29 13:14 | |
| schestowitz | firefox being shit | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | after the "upgrade" | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | cannot even properly copy-paste links from it | Oct 29 13:14 |
| schestowitz | it "helps" me... after copying Google 'removing' the protocol to 'help' users | Oct 29 13:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Mozilla management probably handicapping all the good engineers | Oct 29 13:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Putting their gophers and rustaceans in control | Oct 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz | just ignore the http/3, google rebranded | Oct 29 13:15 |
| schestowitz | Mozilla Board now has Microsofters | Oct 29 13:16 |
| thddx | yeah, protocol obfuscation angered me | Oct 29 13:16 |
| schestowitz | They once put a microsofter in charge of security at Mozilla | Oct 29 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But guys | Oct 29 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's okay | Oct 29 13:16 |
| schestowitz | and she then used her mozilla hat to praise Microsoft for secueity | Oct 29 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Their standard libraries can totally scrape your host data | Oct 29 13:16 |
| schestowitz | a very NSA-approved message, rest assured | Oct 29 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And send it in the HTTP headers | Oct 29 13:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's why I advocate container usage as well. There's a lot of data mining built into their core libraries. | Oct 29 13:17 |
| thddx | one time, i was walking through NYC | Oct 29 13:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Containers are a nice way to avoid that | Oct 29 13:17 |
| thddx | and a bum dude commented, "nice shirt" | Oct 29 13:17 |
| thddx | i had a shirt on that said "Byte Back!" | Oct 29 13:18 |
| thddx | don't know if you guys know the reference, but it's to Moonlight Maze | Oct 29 13:18 |
| schestowitz | did he? | Oct 29 13:18 |
| schestowitz | did he byte back? | Oct 29 13:18 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Not aware of Moonlight Maze, sorry. | Oct 29 13:18 |
| thddx | i've often wondered if that guy was a jaded old tech guy | Oct 29 13:18 |
| thddx | that just gave up | Oct 29 13:18 |
| schestowitz | "will code html for food" | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | and variants of it | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | you respond, BUT... | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | will you "CODE CLOUD"? | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | he goes, wah? | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | the cloud | Oct 29 13:19 |
| thddx | moonlight maze was a gov't project to find the source of russian hacking attempts in the late 90s | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | "never heard of it" | Oct 29 13:19 |
| schestowitz | "ahh... server" | Oct 29 13:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | A little security tip from me | Oct 29 13:19 |
| MinceR | 29 130635 < schestowitz> MinceR might know more | Oct 29 13:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Try out the standard HTTP libraries and send an HTTP GET or POST message | Oct 29 13:20 |
| MinceR | "hacker" news seems to be full of cancerd fans | Oct 29 13:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Have a look at the headers that are going out | Oct 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: caca news | Oct 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz | corporations are hackers | Oct 29 13:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You'll quickly find out which languages support data mining that way | Oct 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz | ibm is "SJW" | Oct 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz | (when writing press releases anyway) | Oct 29 13:20 |
| schestowitz | (ignore their gov. contracts) | Oct 29 13:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I swear I saw a Docker directory in the official Git repo | Oct 29 13:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Where the hell did it go | Oct 29 13:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Linux repo | Oct 29 13:23 |
| MinceR | http://n-gate.com/ | Oct 29 13:24 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-n-gate.com. we can't both be right. | Oct 29 13:24 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The FSF Is Looking To Update Its High Priority Free Software Projects List • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143781 [https://pleroma.site/objects/97fa9d7c-4bb8-470f-9bb0-468ab4c36b9f] | Oct 29 13:25 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | MinceR you got an RSS feed for n-gate? | Oct 29 13:25 |
| MinceR | no | Oct 29 13:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | :( | Oct 29 13:25 |
| schestowitz | sounds like a racist incident | Oct 29 13:25 |
| MinceR | long ago, there was a site that could produce an RSS feed for just about anything, but i forgot what it was calle | Oct 29 13:25 |
| MinceR | d | Oct 29 13:25 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I would be interested, if you ever decide to implement it | Oct 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | as in "Trump was able to dodge the election results.... until n-gate" | Oct 29 13:26 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/us/politics/kushner-black-racist-stereotype.html | Oct 29 13:27 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nytimes.com | Kushner, Employing Racist Stereotype, Questions if Black Americans ‘Want to Be Successful’ - The New York Times | Oct 29 13:27 | |
| schestowitz | wtf | Oct 29 13:27 |
| schestowitz | us is f'ed | Oct 29 13:27 |
| schestowitz | it's run by the 'klan' | Oct 29 13:27 |
| schestowitz | sans the robes | Oct 29 13:28 |
| MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/Wclj3ac.jpg | Oct 29 13:29 |
| *tr_guest|15762 (26847a8b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.38.132.122.139) has joined #techrights | Oct 29 13:30 | |
| schestowitz | heh | Oct 29 13:30 |
| schestowitz | Hunter Trump | Oct 29 13:31 |
| tr_guest|15762 | https://dredesherbalhome.weebly.com | Oct 29 13:31 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-dredesherbalhome.weebly.com | HOLISTIC HEALTH BLOG - Home | Oct 29 13:31 | |
| schestowitz | hunting elephants and almost-extinct cheetahs | Oct 29 13:31 |
| *tr_guest|15762 has quit (Client Quit) | Oct 29 13:31 | |
| schestowitz | tr_guest|15762: is that laxative? | Oct 29 13:31 |
| schestowitz | wow, irc spam | Oct 29 13:31 |
| schestowitz | didn't expect that to come from applets | Oct 29 13:32 |
| schestowitz | (don't click) | Oct 29 13:32 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: #Programming Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143782 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4750441c-858e-4ba4-956f-538c226c0d51] | Oct 29 13:34 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | sorry | Oct 29 13:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've been busy digging through the gold in n-gate lol | Oct 29 13:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | AWS with the theft | Oct 29 13:36 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Nice | Oct 29 13:36 |
| schestowitz | http://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2015/06/28/aws-ddos/ | Oct 29 13:37 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-schestowitz.com » Blog Archive » Amazon AWS Used for DDOS Attacks Against My Web Sites, Amazon Takes 14 Hours to Reply But Not Take Action (Updatedx5) | Oct 29 13:37 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Tbf to Amazon, in that case, you can't really do much | Oct 29 13:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Apart from shut down the account of the person responsible | Oct 29 13:37 |
| schestowitz | they could block outward traffic | Oct 29 13:38 |
| schestowitz | on that port/protocol | Oct 29 13:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah. A firewall wouldn't take long to put in place | Oct 29 13:38 |
| schestowitz | lots of stuff they could do | Oct 29 13:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Their lack of action is inexcusable | Oct 29 13:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But the potential for that kind of abuse is unavoidable | Oct 29 13:38 |
| schestowitz | leave them alone, small company | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | aws has no manpower | Oct 29 13:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | :') | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | or "manhour" | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | too busy sending parcels and checking up on accounts whilst on lunch breaks | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | with spying bracelets on | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | I remember when the slaves had those attached to the neck | Oct 29 13:39 |
| schestowitz | bezos has a hand fetish | Oct 29 13:40 |
| schestowitz | servers like ours are collateral damage to this MFer | Oct 29 13:40 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143783 [https://pleroma.site/objects/4f56b95c-7714-4e6e-9aac-93c4df39ab2f] | Oct 29 13:41 | |
| schestowitz | "let them eat pcore bots" | Oct 29 13:41 |
| schestowitz | it really pissed me off at the time | Oct 29 13:42 |
| schestowitz | this attack was hard to get around | Oct 29 13:42 |
| schestowitz | and my monitoring wasn't well suited to deal with it | Oct 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz | aws hardly gave a fuck | Oct 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz | and the updates there tell you how much time was wasted, when turtlehead bezos was cheating on his wife... with some no-brain boobjob of a person | Oct 29 13:43 |
| schestowitz | too many plutocrats are like that | Oct 29 13:44 |
| schestowitz | bill gates dying (he will in a decade or two, at most 3) won't help much, there's too many like him | Oct 29 13:44 |
| schestowitz | bezos now pretends to be some green 'activists' | Oct 29 13:45 |
| schestowitz | the corporations stole so much money from the treasury that it's slush funds for them to hijack popular movements | Oct 29 13:45 |
| schestowitz | while sniffing cocaine with their oil-distributing 'royals' | Oct 29 13:45 |
| schestowitz | who literally brutally murder journalists who hold them accountable with mere words | Oct 29 13:46 |
| *psymin has quit (Quit: Leaving) | Oct 29 13:46 | |
| schestowitz | (side note: at some stage these cocaine-heads don't get a kick out of just beheading 'bad' women... they chop down journalists to small chunks and then cook them) | Oct 29 13:47 |
| schestowitz | (in tandoori ovens) | Oct 29 13:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Don't forget your naan bread | Oct 29 13:47 |
| schestowitz | pick-up line: "I have 71 other virgins, you're the missing one" | Oct 29 13:48 |
| schestowitz | pick-up line: "I have cooked and eaten 100 bad men... got pita?" | Oct 29 13:48 |
| schestowitz | and those are the friends of the US oligarchs | Oct 29 13:48 |
| schestowitz | they openly associate with them | Oct 29 13:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Now don't go appropriating my curry | Oct 29 13:48 |
| schestowitz | they owe trump a "Favour" | Oct 29 13:48 |
| schestowitz | for helping to cover this up | Oct 29 13:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Just remembered I was supposed to write a Containerfile for Transmission today | Oct 29 13:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Better get on to it | Oct 29 13:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | #n-gate.com needs RSS | Oct 29 13:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Oh btw, do you guys do PGP public key exchanges here? | Oct 29 13:55 |
| schestowitz | no, not in here | Oct 29 14:03 |
| schestowitz | but you don't assume forgery with some accounts | Oct 29 14:04 |
| schestowitz | freenode isn't verified either for most accounts | Oct 29 14:04 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I was meaning more as an alternative contact method | Oct 29 14:04 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Assuming people put a contact email in the PGP cert | Oct 29 14:04 |
| schestowitz | to paste encrypted messages in IRC would be unprecedented I think | Oct 29 14:05 |
| schestowitz | irc as transport layer for scrambled messages | Oct 29 14:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | By here, I meant techrights | Oct 29 14:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Not the IRC | Oct 29 14:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Should have clarified | Oct 29 14:05 |
| schestowitz | ah | Oct 29 14:06 |
| schestowitz | some people do in social control media | Oct 29 14:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't have social control media | Oct 29 14:06 |
| schestowitz | with the "platform" having the keys and running code remotely on the client side (JS) | Oct 29 14:06 |
| schestowitz | nobody has social control media | Oct 29 14:06 |
| schestowitz | well, Zuck has | Oct 29 14:06 |
| schestowitz | "dumb fucks" -MZ | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | the lemmings are just "useds" | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | they own not even what they post | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | they are just "content" "generators" | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | sometimes MZ even experiments on them | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | by forging things using their name | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | to assess impact on groupthink/emotion | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | election next week | Oct 29 14:07 |
| schestowitz | zuck will appease the winner | Oct 29 14:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Don't really follow Mr Robot much | Oct 29 14:08 |
| schestowitz | https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/zuckerberg-demolish-30m-real-estate-keep-things-private-n580216 | Oct 29 14:10 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.nbcnews.com | Zuckerberg to Demolish $30M in Real Estate to Keep Things Private | Oct 29 14:10 | |
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| MinceR | there are scripts and plugins for end-to-end encryption over IRC | Oct 29 14:17 |
| MinceR | blowssi, for example | Oct 29 14:17 |
| schestowitz | as in blowfish? | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | btw, did openbsd choose that over the crypto algo? | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | or does the use predate both? | Oct 29 14:19 |
| schestowitz | because of the thorny nature? | Oct 29 14:19 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIfNIWn2Ad4 | Oct 29 14:20 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Windows’ Hidden Self Destruct Code | Nostalgia Nerd - YouTube | Oct 29 14:20 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/10/2020: Istio 1.6.13, Krita 4.4.1 and PyPI Key-Signing Ceremony • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/10/29/pypi-key-signing-ceremony/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/50c62d27-a5ab-4c0b-9e4f-a5a016ab3373] | Oct 29 14:20 | |
| MinceR | iirc it can use blowfish | Oct 29 14:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I just follow along with GnuPG's decision of using AES for symmetric stuff | Oct 29 14:28 |
| schestowitz | I don't follow ciphers closely | Oct 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | is that a notorious one? | Oct 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | good news is, with Daily Links done for now, I can now resume doing some articles | Oct 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | but... | Oct 29 14:31 |
| schestowitz | I'll be brutally honest | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | I have not been writing down topics lately | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | so could use ideas of things to cover | Oct 29 14:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You use GPG | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | RMS asked me to consider doing some primers re LF, OSI... | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: since 2003 | Oct 29 14:32 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do uh | Oct 29 14:32 |
| schestowitz | but I am not an internals gurus when it comes to it | Oct 29 14:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `gpg --version` | Oct 29 14:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You'll see the stuff you got to work with | Oct 29 14:32 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Then uh | Oct 29 14:33 |
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| schestowitz | Supported algorithms: | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Pubkey: RSA, ELG, DSA, ECDH, ECDSA, EDDSA | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Cipher: IDEA, 3DES, CAST5, BLOWFISH, AES, AES192, AES256, TWOFISH, | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | CAMELLIA128, CAMELLIA192, CAMELLIA256 | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | Hash: SHA1, RIPEMD160, SHA256, SHA384, SHA512, SHA224 | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | TWOFISH | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 29 14:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | There you go | Oct 29 14:33 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Then uh | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | almost same as the company's name... the one EPO sent to threaten me with litigation | Oct 29 14:33 |
| schestowitz | I DEA :-) | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | good for getting caught for drugs possession | Oct 29 14:34 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | `gpg --default-key KEYID --export KEYID | pgpdump | less` | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | "oh shit, I AM DEAD, DEA at my do' " | Oct 29 14:34 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: nothing there | Oct 29 14:35 |
| MinceR | blowssi is compatible with mircryption and fish, apparently all of those use blowfish | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | WARNING: nothing exported | Oct 29 14:35 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Replace KEYID with your key | Oct 29 14:35 |
| schestowitz | ah, I was not thinking | Oct 29 14:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You should have an easy way to look at the parameters that were used when generating your master key and subkeys | Oct 29 14:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | With that | Oct 29 14:38 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Np | Oct 29 14:38 |
| schestowitz | gpg -k | wc | Oct 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | 492 1848 20776 | Oct 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | didn't know I amassed that many keys | Oct 29 14:39 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It happens | Oct 29 14:39 |
| schestowitz | gpg -k | grep sches | wc | Oct 29 14:40 |
| schestowitz | 8 41 560 | Oct 29 14:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | My key probably in there. Not long ago that you got my emails. lol | Oct 29 14:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm a bit miffed that none of my OpenPGP cards can store ECC keys. | Oct 29 14:41 |
| schestowitz | ah, I think I see you | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | with gmail alias | Oct 29 14:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's the one | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | nothing says encryption e2e (you2pentagon) like Google | Oct 29 14:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I would like to see them get a hold of my key lol | Oct 29 14:42 |
| schestowitz | I have one associate who dumped gmail 2 years ago | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | didn't trust gmail even with pop3/imap and pgp | Oct 29 14:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I have accounts with all the big providers | Oct 29 14:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I need to keep up with their malarkey | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | lol | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | uid [ unknown] Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | sub rsa4096 2011-05-02 [E] [expires: 2031-04-27] | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | 2031 | Oct 29 14:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Paid accounts, mind you | Oct 29 14:43 |
| schestowitz | will he even live that long? | Oct 29 14:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | How old is he? | Oct 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz | he's my age iirc | Oct 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz | but 20 years for a key? | Oct 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz | come on.. | Oct 29 14:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Maybe it has a lot of signatures | Oct 29 14:44 |
| schestowitz | Zoe Kooyman <zoe@fsf.org> 2024 | Oct 29 14:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I know someone that has a GPG key from the 90s | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | gpg -k | grep -B 2 2024 | tail -n2 | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | uid [ unknown] Zoe Kooyman <zoe@fsf.org> | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | sub rsa4096 2019-03-18 [E] [expires: 2024-03-16] | Oct 29 14:45 |
| schestowitz | one is 2025 | Oct 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz | someone from canada, a client of ours | Oct 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz | uid [ unknown] Annie Machon <annie@anniemachon.ch> | Oct 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz | sub rsa4096 2017-12-21 [E] [expires: 2027-12-19] | Oct 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz | you know her for sure | Oct 29 14:46 |
| schestowitz | we wanted to meet her here a few years ago, but her public talk was called off | Oct 29 14:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | A bit | Oct 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz | her blog is no longer active and all those RT interviews did not age well | Oct 29 14:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't really keep up with the news much | Oct 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz | with the bad atmosphere and growing sanctions | Oct 29 14:47 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I've got projects that need doing | Oct 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz | pgp sign for another 7 years, seems rather long | Oct 29 14:47 |
| schestowitz | iirc, her dad was in the royal air force | Oct 29 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you have your Certification key offline | Oct 29 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can keep using that indefinitely | Oct 29 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's what I do | Oct 29 14:48 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I have a Dot Matrix backup of my certification key | Oct 29 14:48 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So I can just scan that and import it | Oct 29 14:49 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Fedora 33: This new Linux distribution is designed to ‘just work’ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143702#comment-26934 [https://pleroma.site/objects/b3e0bdbb-6ea2-471c-907a-22fbfdb6d63b] | Oct 29 14:49 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | That's the [C] attribute key | Oct 29 14:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | "master" AKA | Oct 29 14:49 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The one I'm using right now isn't the nicest layout. It has [SC], [E], and [A] keys. But that's because that's the best I could fit into my OpenPGP card | Oct 29 14:50 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stable Kernels: 5.9.2, 5.8.17, 5.4.73, 4.19.153, 4.14.203, 4.9.241 and 4.4.241 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143784 [https://pleroma.site/objects/38dfec26-0809-4919-8429-eb839ec79fb4] | Oct 29 14:50 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You can only have 3 keys on OpenPGP card v3.3 | Oct 29 14:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And RSA | Oct 29 14:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No ECC | Oct 29 14:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Idk what on earth they're doing taking so long to get an ECC card up and running | Oct 29 14:51 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ideally, you want: | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | [C] | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | [S] | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | [E] | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | [A] | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | [C] stays offline | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | EDDSA curve 25519 | Oct 29 14:52 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | OpenSSH supports EDDSA as well. Has for a while. | Oct 29 14:53 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't know if GitHub still doesn't support ECC public keys. | Oct 29 14:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They didn't, the last time I checked. | Oct 29 14:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | About a year ago | Oct 29 14:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Or was it paid accounts only | Oct 29 14:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't remember | Oct 29 14:54 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You'll need to use `gpg --expert --generate-keys` to unlock the ECC stuff. | Oct 29 14:55 |
| schestowitz | [14:54] <vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx> Or was it paid accounts only | Oct 29 14:56 |
| schestowitz | why would anyone PAY Microsoft to OWN their project? | Oct 29 14:56 |
| schestowitz | The product is the dev | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | (and its/their project/s) | Oct 29 14:57 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Goodness knows | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | enough idiots out there | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | paying Microsoft to "sponsor" project | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | always trust billG with money | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | his friend said he "had a nose for money" | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | sooner or later they'll be paypal-like cop | Oct 29 14:57 |
| schestowitz | deciding which projects to defund, the prelude being youtube-dl | Oct 29 14:58 |
| schestowitz | paypal defunded xorg at one point | Oct 29 14:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Christ | Oct 29 14:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do you have a printer at home? | Oct 29 14:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | + scanner | Oct 29 14:59 |
| schestowitz | yes | Oct 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz | for labels, rianne uses them | Oct 29 15:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You should make a paper backup of your keys with dmtx | Oct 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz | those cartridges you get (black only) for like 2 quid on ebay | Oct 29 15:01 |
| schestowitz | i have those on external drives | Oct 29 15:02 |
| schestowitz | house fire would not ruin them either, as one drive is 'remote' | Oct 29 15:02 |
| schestowitz | printing things doesn't make it more secure unless you put the paper somewhere wise | Oct 29 15:02 |
| schestowitz | pirvate keys you don't want to write down and pass around | Oct 29 15:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't have any keys on disk or an a system that isn't airgapped | Oct 29 15:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | or smartcard | Oct 29 15:04 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I prefer paper out of all the mediums because it's the easiest to keep safe | Oct 29 15:04 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Three letter agencies can extract data from silicone so smartcards aren't really bulletproof | Oct 29 15:05 |
| schestowitz | but then your private key on disk is not safe either | Oct 29 15:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't have any private keys on disk | Oct 29 15:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Apart form one airgapped system | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | there's also speculation about debian and five eyes | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | not a new concern | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | and reproducible builds are in hands I don't trust | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | lamb etc. | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | oxbridge mafia | Oct 29 15:06 |
| schestowitz | with OSI/Microsoft links | Oct 29 15:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People should archive more stuff on paper | Oct 29 15:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's way more secure than most think | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/10/26/jonathan-wiltshire-gchq-theory/ | Oct 29 15:07 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Jonathan Wiltshire and Debian, Falsified Harassment Claims, Tiger Computing and GCHQ | Techrights | Oct 29 15:07 | |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: not secure with a no-knock raid | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | lauri love had the special units disguised as courier with parcel | Oct 29 15:07 |
| schestowitz | so they bypassed his encryption while it was still 'hot' | Oct 29 15:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm talking about civilian grade here | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | when you live a dictatorship nothing is safe, physical or digital | Oct 29 15:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | For the average computer user they are much safer storing things printed than on disk | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | if they can't get you digitally, they kidnap you | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | they sent Assange's laptop to the US Government | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | and they kidnapped him in transit, in the hallway/reception | Oct 29 15:08 |
| schestowitz | he didn't have time to handcuff himself to his room as he planned for contingency | Oct 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz | they even did some practice runs with cops days/weeks prior it would seem | Oct 29 15:09 |
| schestowitz | the best security you have it networking | Oct 29 15:09 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't think we have any wikileaks-level operations going on here lol | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | so it's hard to take down one person at a time | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | and the structure of the org is not clear | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | like who controls/accesses what exactly | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | no, not wikileaks | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | I was making an example using edge case | Oct 29 15:10 |
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| schestowitz | or "extreme" cade | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | *case | Oct 29 15:10 |
| schestowitz | wikileaks had years to prepare | Oct 29 15:11 |
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| schestowitz | the site is still online, but no more publications | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | they removed several people | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | ioerror was also removed from debian | Oct 29 15:11 |
| schestowitz | so now it is a bunch of spineless people | Oct 29 15:11 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Others will step in | Oct 29 15:12 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Only hurting the project in the long run | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | mjg59 would tell us tthat talking about this is "defending rape" | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: they oust others who challenge on those issues | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | like Pocock when he mentioned Google money | Oct 29 15:12 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I meant as in other projects | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | mjg59 gets a salary from Google now | Oct 29 15:12 |
| schestowitz | so serves him well to paint Pocock as rape apologist | Oct 29 15:13 |
| schestowitz | for merely showing proof that Debian defamed ioerror | Oct 29 15:13 |
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| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: what projects? | Oct 29 15:13 |
| schestowitz | The Fedora "community"? | Oct 29 15:13 |
| schestowitz | the "IBM-sponsored" "project"? | Oct 29 15:13 |
| schestowitz | it's also IBM-led | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | their employees | Oct 29 15:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I wonder why the Tor project chose Debian for Tails if all this cozying up to surveillance agencies is going on | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | community is being redefined | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | red hat is open org | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | ibm is 'community' | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | so these terms we used to use are meaningless | Oct 29 15:14 |
| schestowitz | systemd is "free software" | Oct 29 15:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Not really. It's just hijacking | Oct 29 15:14 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Like the word hacker got hijacked | Oct 29 15:14 |
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| schestowitz | tor itself is regarded by many as compromised | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | the people-based optics | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | funny how stubborn people re privacy always end up being "sex offenders" | Oct 29 15:15 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Something that really raised my eyebrows is the level of security theater involved in trying to verify the integrity of a Tails ISO | Oct 29 15:15 |
| schestowitz | it's too large | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Just wait a sec | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | So they make you download loads of keys | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | And then check their signature | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You could just run a hash function on the ISO | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Job done | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | oh, btw | Oct 29 15:16 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | No need to GPG malarkey | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | guess where debian does its dev | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | google compute | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | after taking loads of money from google | Oct 29 15:16 |
| schestowitz | so.... take it from there... I think "Salsa" server is also Google-owned/controlled | Oct 29 15:17 |
| schestowitz | isn't tails partly on shithub? | Oct 29 15:17 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I think so | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | https://nitter.snopyta.org/SalahAlhayat/status/1272118353948299264#m | Oct 29 15:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-nitter.snopyta.org | mohamed salah (@SalahAlhayat): "كل شخص حر ان يعيش حياته كما يشاء طالما لا يضر الآخرين... لكن المنصب العام يفرض قيودا علي صاحبه ... اذا صح ان الفيديو لتيدروس أدهانوم غيبريسوس رئيس منظمة الصحة العالمية وهو يمارس حريته .. فالمشهده، حتي لو قديم ، يبرر | Oct 29 15:18 | |
| smnthermes | Lmao, the guy believed the meme | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | Translation: | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | "Every person is free to live his life as he wants as long as he does not harm others ... | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | But the public office imposes restrictions on its owner ... | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | If it is true, the video is of Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, President of the World Health Organization, while he is exercising his freedom .. | Oct 29 15:18 |
| smnthermes | The scene, even if it is old, justifies the poor performance of the organization and the inconsistency in the words and statements of its president." | Oct 29 15:18 |
| schestowitz | smnthermes: he's nice but not too bright | Oct 29 15:19 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Tor has lately been pouring a lot of money into things that have nothing to do with security | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | great footballer, not a source of health news | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | could just be mo mo almomo | Oct 29 15:19 |
| schestowitz | and you would not care | Oct 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | should stick to football | Oct 29 15:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They overhauled their old documentation system | Oct 29 15:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Which was perfectly fine | Oct 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | oh wait | Oct 29 15:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Did a huge UX update | Oct 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | it's another person | Oct 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | not the footballer | Oct 29 15:20 |
| schestowitz | just a very common name | Oct 29 15:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | They could have used that money to fund more mission-critical things like development | Oct 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz | this one is an egyptian with 15,224 "followers" | Oct 29 15:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | server costs | Oct 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz | not the egyptian footballer | Oct 29 15:21 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | The Liverpool striker? | Oct 29 15:21 |
| schestowitz | anyway, covid fried many people's minds, they loom for "alternatives" | Oct 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz | *look | Oct 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: no, i thought so at first | Oct 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz | this one is different | Oct 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz | smnthermes: there's no lack of BS re COVID onlibe | Oct 29 15:22 |
| schestowitz | 3 days ago I decided to boycott all claims re COVID online, inc. the "news" | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | got tired of clickbaiting and armchair 'experts' | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | esp. craig murray | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | when it started he suggested it was hardly worse than the flu | Oct 29 15:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People that call themselves experts make me cringe | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | now he promotes koch-styled "herd immunity" | Oct 29 15:23 |
| schestowitz | "look! we're back to business, just ignore those millions of corpses around us and empty hospitals with staff that died and resigned in protest" | Oct 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: expert is the expert term for "very stable genius" | Oct 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz | same for "manager" | Oct 29 15:24 |
| schestowitz | almost every manager is managed by someone | Oct 29 15:25 |
| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1744.html | Oct 29 15:25 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Oct 29 15:25 | |
| schestowitz | so you ask, "you manage WHO?{" | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | they might manage just one person | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | manage a Poundland :-) | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | "more plastic on the shelves, lads, hurry up" | Oct 29 15:25 |
| schestowitz | I intentionally lost track of COVID numbers | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | and that make me 1) more productive and 2) happier | Oct 29 15:26 |
| schestowitz | StallmanWasRight https://stallman.org/articles/dont-watch-covid-tv.html | Oct 29 15:26 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-stallman.org | Don’t watch TV coverage of Covid-19! | Oct 29 15:26 | |
| schestowitz | from march/april | Oct 29 15:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Chief GNUisance has it right | Oct 29 15:30 |
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| MinceR | https://www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/1752.html | Oct 29 15:35 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.darthsanddroids.net | Darths & Droids | Oct 29 15:35 | |
| schestowitz | ok, nap time.. | Oct 29 15:41 |
| MinceR | (audio:important) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF_nfazQaek | Oct 29 15:41 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Naptime! - YouTube | Oct 29 15:41 | |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: poor cat | Oct 29 15:44 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 29 15:44 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/698520.jpg | Oct 29 15:58 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | One way to keep yourself warm | Oct 29 16:06 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 16:06 |
| XRevan86 | https://youtu.be/WWByOcVR7mI nice | Oct 29 16:18 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-THEY DID IT ON PURPOSE! - YouTube | Oct 29 16:18 | |
| MinceR | "Now you're doing it on purpose. How juvenile." | Oct 29 16:20 |
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| scientes_ | MinceR, nice ether | Oct 29 16:54 |
| scientes_ | needs a "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" reference | Oct 29 16:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 16:55 |
| MinceR | it's chloroform, though | Oct 29 16:55 |
| scientes_ | well I said that before they said what it is | Oct 29 16:55 |
| scientes_ | but ether would do that too | Oct 29 16:55 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 16:55 |
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| scientes_ | ok, it got to the killing babies part...... | Oct 29 16:56 |
| scientes_ | kinda done with this video... | Oct 29 16:56 |
| scientes_ | "I keep her in a show-box" | Oct 29 16:56 |
| MinceR | shoebox | Oct 29 16:58 |
| scientes_ | <XRevan86> https://youtu.be/WWByOcVR7mI nice | Oct 29 16:58 |
| scientes_ | those anti-features are expensive | Oct 29 16:59 |
| scientes_ | they did it because they feel that they are getting too good of a price on those (actually) quite good cameras that iPhones have | Oct 29 16:59 |
| scientes_ | that's the whole "shot on an iPhone" marketing stuff | Oct 29 16:59 |
| scientes_ | which there is some truth too | Oct 29 17:00 |
| XRevan86 | I could annoy kaniini a bit more, but I think all has been said. | Oct 29 17:00 |
| scientes_ | but if you look at the "retina" displays, it always eventually gets beyond Apple (although high-resolution display prices went up over 2.5 years ago when the market was flooded (and I wonder if some of the facories were recently literally flooded.....they are having LCD display supply problems, but I think these were caused by lockdowns and not the flooding) | Oct 29 17:01 |
| MinceR | apple likes to lie about their displays and other products | Oct 29 17:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm fine with my cheap ass chinese Androids | Oct 29 17:01 |
| scientes_ | how do they lie about their displays? | Oct 29 17:01 |
| scientes_ | those things were pretty good, and as they were a big part of the development, for quite a few years they had exclusive contracts to but most of them | Oct 29 17:02 |
| *XRevan86 is not fine with his cheap-ass Chinese Android. | Oct 29 17:02 | |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, me too | Oct 29 17:02 |
| *XRevan86 can't decide on a replacement. | Oct 29 17:02 | |
| scientes_ | my RedMi has a mod of android that has all sorts of problems, and the built-in apps have advertisements and are spyware | Oct 29 17:02 |
| scientes_ | but the hardware is quite nice | Oct 29 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: A lot of Redmi's have LineageOS builds. | Oct 29 17:03 |
| scientes_ | ...needs free software, like those great guys at Pine64 are doing | Oct 29 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | I have a TCL piece of crap. | Oct 29 17:03 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, LineageOS always only targets the "flagship" excessively expensive phones | Oct 29 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: No, there are accessible Xiaomi's that have it. | Oct 29 17:03 |
| scientes_ | and it doesn't really do anything about the free software situation, so it doesn't really solve any problems | Oct 29 17:03 |
| XRevan86 | like Note 8/8T | Oct 29 17:03 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, Xiamo actually does follow GPL, but its just too much work for LineageOS to do | Oct 29 17:04 |
| scientes_ | I did order a PinePhone | Oct 29 17:04 |
| XRevan86 | Xiaomi makes de-tivo-isation a big hassle. Still better than Huawei, I guess. | Oct 29 17:04 |
| MinceR | 29 180150 < scientes_> how do they lie about their displays? | Oct 29 17:05 |
| scientes_ | its just a really nice piece of hardware for $100 | Oct 29 17:05 |
| scientes_ | like in the lineageos channel they laugh if you want a phone for $100 | Oct 29 17:05 |
| MinceR | for example, they shat on 6bit displays and sold their own 6bit display claiming they were 8bit | Oct 29 17:05 |
| scientes_ | but when smartphones first started out, they never went over $200 | Oct 29 17:05 |
| scientes_ | and that was the best phones | Oct 29 17:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I used to own a lot of Huawei phones | Oct 29 17:05 |
| MinceR | i have an LG phone | Oct 29 17:05 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | But then I tried out other companies | Oct 29 17:05 |
| scientes_ | its called First World Problems | Oct 29 17:05 |
| MinceR | i'm waiting for a pinephone that isn't branded with some cancerd-based POS' logo to be available | Oct 29 17:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Oukitel are the ones I'm trying out right now | Oct 29 17:06 |
| scientes_ | but anyways, I said why Apple did that phone stupidity | Oct 29 17:06 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because it's Apple | Oct 29 17:06 |
| scientes_ | they think they are getting a better price than everybody else for their camera (which they are) | Oct 29 17:06 |
| scientes_ | *that camera stupidity | Oct 29 17:06 |
| scientes_ | and they lost their King, Steve Jobs | Oct 29 17:07 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Try F-droid. The apps are way better than what you get on Google Play | Oct 29 17:07 |
| scientes_ | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, try turning on extended verification in your google account and then watch as you can no longer install f-droid apps | Oct 29 17:08 |
| scientes_ | Google does not parade that feature around | Oct 29 17:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Interesting | Oct 29 17:08 |
| scientes_ | "feature" | Oct 29 17:08 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Thanks for that one. | Oct 29 17:09 |
| scientes_ | MinceR, sexy pussy-cat | Oct 29 17:09 |
| MinceR | https://www.madmagazine.com/blog/2015/10/12/one-evening-after-dinner-a-cartoon-by-tom-cheney | Oct 29 17:09 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.madmagazine.com | One Evening After Dinner: A Cartoon by Tom Cheney | Mad Magazine | Oct 29 17:09 | |
| mjg59 | schestowitz: I mean when you're criticising an organisation for criticising a rapist... | Oct 29 17:10 |
| XRevan86 | OS's for Pinephone at not there yet, the bugs are plentiful. | Oct 29 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | But it has a big community, so maybe it'll get there eventually. | Oct 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | i could settle for being able to boot up, log in and run an ssh client with the touchscreen and connect over wifi | Oct 29 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | and then it'll just be outdated %) | Oct 29 17:11 |
| MinceR | without cancerd | Oct 29 17:11 |
| XRevan86 | The camera isn't functioning, that's fine, but systemd – no deal. | Oct 29 17:12 |
| MinceR | indeed | Oct 29 17:13 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, they posted a nice firefox layout patch | Oct 29 17:14 |
| scientes_ | to make stock firefox desktop feel like mobile with some about:config changes | Oct 29 17:15 |
| XRevan86 | https://linux.org.ru/images/19350/original.png yea, I saw a screenshot | Oct 29 17:15 |
| scientes_ | and seriously, firefox is like half of what you want a smartphone for | Oct 29 17:15 |
| scientes_ | after that, just a SIP client, and that probably already exists | Oct 29 17:15 |
| scientes_ | and ZRTP | Oct 29 17:15 |
| scientes_ | (even though I have no friends I can ZRTP with, and Jitsi is nice) | Oct 29 17:16 |
| *XRevan86 keeps waiting for Linphone to deliver on Android. | Oct 29 17:16 | |
| scientes_ | yeah, we don't have free software of the push services | Oct 29 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | So far it's a monster that I don't have enough RAM for. | Oct 29 17:16 |
| scientes_ | which make the battery life much better | Oct 29 17:16 |
| scientes_ | so i'm using a non-free client too | Oct 29 17:16 |
| scientes_ | CSIPSimple is the best | Oct 29 17:16 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: Linphone kind of does that. | Oct 29 17:16 |
| scientes_ | but the real problem there is that Android is just a shit API | Oct 29 17:16 |
| scientes_ | and requires too much boiler plate, unless you are a huge app like OSMAnd | Oct 29 17:17 |
| XRevan86 | microG's FCM kicks Linphone, it starts up and then crashes, OOM'ing everything else :) | Oct 29 17:17 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, yeah Linphone never worked for me, but CSipSimple did | Oct 29 17:17 |
| scientes_ | although Google is always changing the rules, and I bet you can't even ship CSipSimple on the Google Play store anymore because its a old version of the API and they are always changing the rules | Oct 29 17:18 |
| scientes_ | basically, Android is a Pice of Fucking Shit | Oct 29 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | I'm amazed at how simple and efficient Mumla is. | Oct 29 17:18 |
| XRevan86 | and not ugly | Oct 29 17:19 |
| scientes_ | I'll install that | Oct 29 17:19 |
| scientes_ | (I am not discounting the various advances that needed to take place, and Android implemented expediently and got development rolling on) | Oct 29 17:20 |
| scientes_ | like wake-locks | Oct 29 17:20 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: Android is horrible, yea. It only looks good in comparison with iOS. | Oct 29 17:21 |
| scientes_ | you can't even use a fucking SD card with Android | Oct 29 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: That you can. | Oct 29 17:22 |
| scientes_ | no you can't | Oct 29 17:22 |
| scientes_ | I am always out of space even though I have a massive SD card | Oct 29 17:22 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: Sure I can. Look at me go! | Oct 29 17:22 |
| scientes_ | because the software is shit | Oct 29 17:22 |
| scientes_ | even though Linux can handle that complexity fine | Oct 29 17:22 |
| scientes_ | its like Windows | Oct 29 17:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: It no longer allows moving software to FAT32 cards. But you can make "hybrid storage" and use that. | Oct 29 17:23 |
| scientes_ | and then in the disk space viewer it thinks the internal storage is sdcard and the sdcard is internal storage, because they have switched it around so many times in the API | Oct 29 17:23 |
| scientes_ | that they get all confused | Oct 29 17:23 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, its ext4 | Oct 29 17:23 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I don't think most devs pay attention to the low-level API | Oct 29 17:24 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | People only care about if their React or Flutter apps work | Oct 29 17:24 |
| MinceR | vold is shit and so it won't handle ext* filesystems | Oct 29 17:24 |
| MinceR | but it is willing to mount vfat | Oct 29 17:24 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: That sounds like something specific to your MIUI | Oct 29 17:24 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, nah, some apps can be moved to external storage, but most cannot | Oct 29 17:26 |
| scientes_ | its stupid API designs | Oct 29 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: It's up to the application to allow or deny. | Oct 29 17:26 |
| scientes_ | but why? | Oct 29 17:26 |
| scientes_ | with Linux you can mount anything anywhere | Oct 29 17:26 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: So that you don't move WebView to the sdcard. | Oct 29 17:27 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: You can actually override this with EdXposed if you want :). | Oct 29 17:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | How do they isolate apps these days on Android? | Oct 29 17:27 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do they use namespaces? | Oct 29 17:27 |
| MinceR | originally it was just unix user permissions | Oct 29 17:28 |
| MinceR | one user per application | Oct 29 17:28 |
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| MinceR | then they added multiuser support to android and started using mountspaces, which fucked everything up | Oct 29 17:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ah | Oct 29 17:28 |
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| MinceR | even if you have root, it's a total pain in the ass to mount anything manually | Oct 29 17:28 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Yeah because you'd need to do all the namespace handling by hand | Oct 29 17:29 |
| scientes_ | its SELinux | Oct 29 17:29 |
| scientes_ | which makes it incomprehensive to those that don't know how it works.......sigh | Oct 29 17:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Which is just about every mobile app dev | Oct 29 17:29 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Do the apps have their own network namespace as well? | Oct 29 17:31 |
| MinceR | dunno | Oct 29 17:38 |
| scientes_ | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, no | Oct 29 17:40 |
| scientes_ | at least termux is not in a network namespace | Oct 29 17:40 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Interesting | Oct 29 17:40 |
| MinceR | maybe if your application doesn't ask for networking permission | Oct 29 17:40 |
| scientes_ | that doesn't need a namespace | Oct 29 17:41 |
| MinceR | how else can you do it? | Oct 29 17:41 |
| scientes_ | or I guess a namespace would do that well, sure.... | Oct 29 17:41 |
| scientes_ | but these features predate all the namespace features except filesystem namespaces | Oct 29 17:41 |
| scientes_ | android is quite old these days | Oct 29 17:41 |
| scientes_ | so most of the security is done with SELinux because that is what was available | Oct 29 17:41 |
| MinceR | ic | Oct 29 17:41 |
| scientes_ | and the NSA spies designed SELinux so they don't have difficulty with it when they are hacking into your phone :))))))) | Oct 29 17:43 |
| scientes_ | SIP | Oct 29 17:50 |
| scientes_ | UDP5060 | Oct 29 17:50 |
| scientes_ | TCP5060 | Oct 29 17:50 |
| scientes_ | TLS5061 | Oct 29 17:50 |
| scientes_ | would be nice to add wireguard | Oct 29 17:50 |
| scientes_ | so you could get the latency of UDP on an encrypted channel | Oct 29 17:51 |
| scientes_ | and without the complexity of TLS | Oct 29 17:51 |
| scientes_ | (I don't think HTTP/3 transport can be used without the TCP-like-features) | Oct 29 17:51 |
| scientes_ | and that protocol is too complicated anyways | Oct 29 17:52 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/696283.jpg | Oct 29 17:54 |
| scientes_ | MinceR, golden | Oct 29 17:59 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I hate it when people use GitHub wiki for docs | Oct 29 18:00 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, I can't get Mumla to connect | Oct 29 18:00 |
| scientes_ | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx, at least its documentation and its Markdown, which isn't horrible | Oct 29 18:00 |
| XRevan86 | scientes_: It's a Mumble client | Oct 29 18:01 |
| MinceR | i hate it when people use ShitHub | Oct 29 18:01 |
| scientes_ | ooooooooh | Oct 29 18:01 |
| scientes_ | i thought it was a SIP client | Oct 29 18:01 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It's been getting very annoying | Oct 29 18:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Because I don't like leaving my tmux windows to look up stuff | Oct 29 18:03 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I might resort to installing NetSurf or something | Oct 29 18:04 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/696290.jpg | Oct 29 18:17 |
| scientes_ | MinceR, made me laugh | Oct 29 18:19 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 18:19 |
| XRevan86 | MinceR: This woman also needs to check her buttocks. Possibility of cancer. | Oct 29 18:19 |
| MinceR | :> | Oct 29 18:20 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, heisenberg's uncertainty principal | Oct 29 18:20 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: of Capricorn | Oct 29 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | Zodiac non-sense? | Oct 29 18:23 |
| XRevan86 | Oncology is a serious topic. | Oct 29 18:24 |
| scientes_ | XRevan86, but the observation of this cancer has effected its existence :) | Oct 29 18:25 |
| MinceR | Tropic of Capricorn | Oct 29 18:25 |
| scientes_ | I read that | Oct 29 18:26 |
| scientes_ | but Tropic of Cancer was first | Oct 29 18:26 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 18:26 |
| scientes_ | Capricorn had more sex in it however | Oct 29 18:26 |
| scientes_ | the Paris expats | Oct 29 18:27 |
| scientes_ | "Those with a belly-full of the classics are a threat to the human race"--Henry Miller, Tropic of Cancer | Oct 29 18:27 |
| scientes_ | and then I proceeded to read all the classics........ | Oct 29 18:27 |
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| scientes | XRevan86, the RedMis also have FM radio, which is rare in smartphones | Oct 29 19:18 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://hugelolcdn.com/i/697827.jpg | Oct 29 19:19 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: With the headphones? | Oct 29 19:19 |
| scientes | XRevan86, you have to have the headphones plugged in, but you can use the speakerphone | Oct 29 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Is that rare? | Oct 29 19:20 |
| scientes | yes it is | Oct 29 19:20 |
| scientes | and it only ever shows up on low-end phones | Oct 29 19:20 |
| XRevan86 | Every single phone I had had it %). | Oct 29 19:21 |
| schestowitz | MinceR: https://joindiaspora.com/posts/19313716 | Oct 29 19:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@schestowitz@joindiaspora.com: The cat ate my home work https://hugelolcdn.com/i/697827.jpg | Oct 29 19:21 | |
| scientes | the only thing I miss is what my Nexus 4 had: ability to read bus cards via full-featured NFC | Oct 29 19:21 |
| MinceR | :) | Oct 29 19:21 |
| scientes | XRevan86, maybe Russia market is more geeky :) | Oct 29 19:21 |
| scientes | I mean, phones wouldn't have GLONASS had Putin not added a 25% for phones with GPS but not GLONASS | Oct 29 19:21 |
| scientes | *25% tariff | Oct 29 19:22 |
| scientes | I think Russia market has more replacable batties too | Oct 29 19:23 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: Not to my experience. | Oct 29 19:24 |
| scientes | anyways, US market is its own thing because of different cell bands in North America | Oct 29 19:25 |
| scientes | I had to get a new phone in Peru, and again in Georgia | Oct 29 19:25 |
| scientes | because of differing bands | Oct 29 19:25 |
| scientes | also US is a fucking mess because of all the locked phones | Oct 29 19:27 |
| XRevan86 | At least no locked phones, yea. | Oct 29 19:28 |
| scientes | god damn, the US is corrupt | Oct 29 19:28 |
| scientes | like it is easier there to just do a data plan, than deal with the constantly crammed bills from the ISPs | Oct 29 19:29 |
| scientes | (and I working installing internet in the US) | Oct 29 19:29 |
| scientes | lots of fiber in Seattle for Comcast, as they were trying to run out the local ISP | Oct 29 19:29 |
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| scientes | and TBH their work was sometimes a bit patchy, where they didn't properly zip-tie their stuff so it was vulnerable to the environment | Oct 29 19:31 |
| scientes | (the other ISP, clearwire) | Oct 29 19:31 |
| schestowitz | scientes: what's glon-arse? | Oct 29 19:33 |
| schestowitz | [19:27] <scientes> also US is a fucking mess because of all the locked phones | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | they pass new rules against it here | Oct 29 19:34 |
| scientes | Sistema Global de Navegación por Satélite desarrollado por la Unión Soviética | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | I added that to Daily Links some days ago | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | scientes: the Russian system has Portuguese name? | Oct 29 19:34 |
| scientes | schestowitz, while the US is passing new rules to make it legal to unlock the locked phones...to create a new level of boondogle corruption that thanks congress for the handouts | Oct 29 19:34 |
| schestowitz | (maybe Spanish) | Oct 29 19:35 |
| scientes | my firefox is set to spanish | Oct 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | scientes: ewaste generator | Oct 29 19:35 |
| scientes | Глобальная навигационная спутниковая система | Oct 29 19:35 |
| schestowitz | welcome to another reason humanity is doomed | Oct 29 19:35 |
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| schestowitz | the goal is to actively increase waste | Oct 29 19:35 |
| scientes | oh, sputnik just literally means satellite | Oct 29 19:36 |
| scientes | great name | Oct 29 19:36 |
| MinceR | more like companion :> | Oct 29 19:36 |
| scientes | they didn't get creative like "Apollo" | Oct 29 19:37 |
| scientes | schestowitz, basically GLONASS is literally GPS, but it needs a different name from US-GPS | Oct 29 19:39 |
| scientes | and it has a different frequency, so the antenna has to be a tiny bit bigger | Oct 29 19:39 |
| scientes | or at least different | Oct 29 19:39 |
| XRevan86 | scientes: And satellite in all meanings | Oct 29 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | travelling companion | Oct 29 19:43 |
| XRevan86 | It's becoming overused, "Sputnik-V" is a bit of an annoying name. | Oct 29 19:44 |
| scientes | and it makes no sense whatsoever | Oct 29 19:45 |
| XRevan86 | I think they're eyeing an international audience | Oct 29 19:46 |
| scientes | obv. | Oct 29 19:46 |
| XRevan86 | Russian, recognisable, association with a huge successor | Oct 29 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | * success | Oct 29 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | I mean VAC-2108 "Sputnik", of course. | Oct 29 19:47 |
| XRevan86 | * VAZ | Oct 29 19:47 |
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| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/695852.png | Oct 29 20:26 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: PostgreSQL 13, Latest Stable Kernel Update in Tumbleweed • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143797 [https://pleroma.site/objects/6fa15212-c90e-46ab-aed2-f1972f5aad61] | Oct 29 20:27 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: The Document Foundation releases LibreOffice 7.0.3 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143786#comment-26939 [https://pleroma.site/objects/d1abe933-eeb3-4ab3-af9a-d4c0c9f85332] | Oct 29 20:30 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: NVIDIA 455.38 Linux Driver Released http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143785#comment-26943 [https://pleroma.site/objects/845ff971-47af-4bcb-8fb1-ccbd0b9399bc] | Oct 29 20:45 | |
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| scientes | (cat audio:unimportant) MinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glRdTZwL9NM | Oct 29 20:54 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-El gato Liova obedece 22 órdenes I RT Play - YouTube | Oct 29 20:54 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: AMD ROCm 3.9 and AMDVLK 2020.Q4.2 Vulkan Driver • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143798 [https://pleroma.site/objects/47a512e5-d2ea-46ee-9b1f-df5a1145c58d] | Oct 29 20:55 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Red Hat Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143799 [https://pleroma.site/objects/c22daf9f-e208-4f39-876a-a288d7c35d7e] | Oct 29 20:55 | |
| MinceR | :3 | Oct 29 20:58 |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Videos from the openSUSE + LibreOffice Conference 2020 http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143687#comment-26944 [https://pleroma.site/objects/452202d2-3b93-4a74-88cd-9498a031bfe6] | Oct 29 21:00 | |
| scientes | (not cat) MinceR, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCsROnvJ5F8 | Oct 29 21:03 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-Un iraní presume de tener poderes telequinéticos - YouTube | Oct 29 21:03 | |
| schestowitz | what does he say and why the leash? | Oct 29 21:03 |
| scientes | because he is a highly trained cat | Oct 29 21:03 |
| scientes | (khat) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfRdi4mOhw | Oct 29 21:04 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-I Ate GOAT BRAINS in YEMEN - YouTube | Oct 29 21:04 | |
| scientes | that can follow 22 orders | Oct 29 21:04 |
| MinceR | poor kitty, being ordered around | Oct 29 21:05 |
| scientes | poor khat, getting chewed up and spit out | Oct 29 21:06 |
| schestowitz | one more command and you can call it alexa, the cat, and attach microphones to it | Oct 29 21:08 |
| schestowitz | then fsb might buy it | Oct 29 21:08 |
| scientes | I lived with a guy with one of those once | Oct 29 21:09 |
| scientes | those things are horrible | Oct 29 21:09 |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Real-Time Patches Updated For Linux 5.9/5.10 With The Code Not Yet Mainlined • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143800 [https://pleroma.site/objects/7d283412-fbc3-40b2-b7d0-746db762e849] | Oct 29 21:13 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Today’s 𝓣𝓾𝔁 𝓜𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓲𝓷𝓮𝓼 Leftovers • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143802 [https://pleroma.site/objects/8b742862-5fe2-4208-91b5-6e41726c7d87] | Oct 29 21:27 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Links 29/10/2020: LibreOffice 7.0.3, Linux 5.9.2, NVIDIA 455.38 Linux Driver • 🆃🅴🅲🅷🆁🅸🅶🅷🆃🆂 ☞ http://techrights.org/2020/10/29/nvidia-455-38-linux-driver/ [https://pleroma.site/objects/c17c5e2c-a692-46c4-9315-0db2b7f41ee1] | Oct 29 21:40 | |
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| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: 8 Tools to Easily Create a Custom Linux Distro • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143803 [https://pleroma.site/objects/f74a9f30-dee2-468f-becb-0db739053848] | Oct 29 21:52 | |
| schestowitz | > Hi Roy, | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > You may have known and written about this before, but just in case you | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > haven't, someone sent me a link to an article today on the EPO | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > considering speculative investments for its cash hordes: | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > https://petra-sorge.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-06-22_WiWo_Die-unheimliche-Wette.pdf | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > <https://petra-sorge.de/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/2018-06-22_WiWo_Die-unheimliche-Wette.pdf> | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > It's in German, but I guess you'll obtain a machine translation as needed. | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | > Best, | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | Thanks, I spoke to her, she reads my site, and I already published an English translation, which she asked me to shorten for Fair Use. | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | I urge you not only to read but also write about: | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | http://techrights.org/2020/07/18/collusion-and-coverup/ | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | The media is NOT doing its job! This should be a front page scandal! | Oct 29 22:05 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Thierry Breton and the European Commission Must Answer Perfectly Legitimate Questions About European Patent Office Corruption | Techrights | Oct 29 22:05 | |
| schestowitz | The media giants have their own agenda. | Oct 29 22:05 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: from figosdev to you: | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > XRevan86 should think about the fact that he's saying Python 2 shouldn't | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > be used *to convert HTML to plaintext* so it can be served *by gopher | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > instead of HTTP*, because its "dead." | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > / | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > / | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | > /*Hello... */ | Oct 29 22:12 |
| schestowitz | he lurks in IRC via logs | Oct 29 22:12 |
| XRevan86 | If Gopher should be parsed by the dead stuff, then it's a bit sad :) | Oct 29 22:13 |
| schestowitz | yup | Oct 29 22:15 |
| MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/695614.jpg | Oct 29 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | Python 2 and Python 3, and Gopher and HTML are not really comparable pairs. | Oct 29 22:16 |
| XRevan86 | Unless UTF-8 ruins Python for oneself forever, then I can see it %). | Oct 29 22:17 |
| schestowitz | anyway, I got on with pypi | Oct 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | wget -O- -q $line | html2text | awk '/*/ {p=1}; p==1 {print}' | awk '{print; if (match($0,"Share in other sites")) exit}' | head -n -1 >> | Oct 29 22:19 |
| schestowitz | html2text is what motors much of it | Oct 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | not sure if the wrapper used by that Dutch guy is much better | Oct 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | but it made use of "Readability" | Oct 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | and it looks like he adds URLs at the bottom | Oct 29 22:20 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I didn't realise how much RMS posts in a day | Oct 29 22:20 |
| schestowitz | this: https://github.com/RaymiiOrg/to-text.py | Oct 29 22:21 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-GitHub - RaymiiOrg/to-text.py: Convert URL or RSS feed to text with readability | Oct 29 22:21 | |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | It loos like he pushes something every couple hours as the thought comes to his mind | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx: very short ones | Oct 29 22:21 |
| XRevan86 | "Readability" is still around definitely, but apparently it changed from when that dead programme was made. | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | like "social control media" | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | except it's his own site with rss feeds and no trolls infesting ot | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | *it | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: the interfaces are not broken or missing | Oct 29 22:21 |
| XRevan86 | It's used literally in one single call, so that's probably not hard to fix. | Oct 29 22:21 |
| schestowitz | so I cannot run it without hacking on the code and understanding how it works fast | Oct 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | but tbh, I think we now have the daily text bulletin in a stable state, I will just generate them along with irc logs after midnight each day | Oct 29 22:22 |
| *XRevan86 looks at https://github.com/buriy/python-readability/blob/master/readability/__init__.py | Oct 29 22:22 | |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-python-readability/__init__.py at master · buriy/python-readability · GitHub | Oct 29 22:22 | |
| schestowitz | XRevan86: no need, I probably would not need it now | Oct 29 22:22 |
| schestowitz | i spent 2.5 hours finalising and testing things yesterday | Oct 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz | inc. (mostly) the index pagehttp://techrights.org/txt-archives/ | Oct 29 22:23 |
| schestowitz | *inc. (mostly) the index page http://techrights.org/txt-archives/ | Oct 29 22:23 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Bulletin Archives | Oct 29 22:23 | |
| schestowitz | hmmm... those images should not be clickable :/ | Oct 29 22:24 |
| schestowitz | fixed not, that was easy | Oct 29 22:25 |
| schestowitz | *now | Oct 29 22:28 |
| MinceR | https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/sodomy | Oct 29 22:29 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.smbc-comics.com | Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - Sodomy | Oct 29 22:29 | |
| -viera/#techrights-Tux Machines: Stereoscopic cam board taps Raspberry Pi CM4 • 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ☞ http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/143804 [https://pleroma.site/objects/1ea9f663-f88b-4be9-b68f-6060408b4a2a] | Oct 29 22:30 | |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Looks like I'm going to be doing some DNS work tomorrow | Oct 29 22:37 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Joy | Oct 29 22:37 |
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| schestowitz | cool | Oct 29 22:42 |
| schestowitz | DNS, the universal spy | Oct 29 22:42 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | I'm going to use this to hack some more Raku | Oct 29 22:43 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | use this as an excuse* | Oct 29 22:43 |
| psydread | I've been having a lot of fun (as well as "fun") with modern C++ over the past two weeks | Oct 29 22:44 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Whatcha been hacking? | Oct 29 22:45 |
| psydread | computer graphics raytracing project for uni | Oct 29 22:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Ah. Lots of matrix algebra ten | Oct 29 22:45 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | then* | Oct 29 22:45 |
| psydread | yeah | Oct 29 22:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | You should look into geometric algebra | Oct 29 22:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | If you haven't already | Oct 29 22:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Very cool application to graphics | Oct 29 22:46 |
| psydread | well, tomorrow is the deadline | Oct 29 22:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | For some other time then | Oct 29 22:46 |
| psydread | but I've been working on it so much | Oct 29 22:46 |
| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_algebra | Oct 29 22:47 |
| -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Geometric algebra - Wikipedia | Oct 29 22:47 | |
| psydread | yes, the weekend is fine | Oct 29 22:47 |
| MinceR | (cat) https://img.pr0gramm.com/2020/09/19/ce2c242d02c4ea1d.jpg | Oct 29 22:55 |
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| vZS1aHdksSQKx2tx | Cat has claimed the bowls | Oct 29 23:14 |
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