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MinceR | https://i.imgur.com/SDbMuJe.jpg | Aug 31 00:07 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Dan Quayle hated this. | Aug 31 00:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | Dan Quayle is returning to Indiana. | Aug 31 00:11 |
schestowitz | "Finally, for a good, cheaper, and more readily available alternative to a trip to the pharmacy, learn about Hypoalgesic effect of swearing." http://www.enricozini.org/blog/2020/links/miscellaneous-news | Aug 31 00:12 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.enricozini.org | Miscellaneous news | Aug 31 00:12 | |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Trump didn't just manage to set international relations back 100 year. He's made state citizenship a thing again, somehow. | Aug 31 00:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Like, after 9/11 everyone was PISSED about what happened to New York and now the red states go "Meh, they didn't vote for Trump. Oh well.". Then it got out of New York and they still don't care because Trump told them it's a hoax, even as they watch people die of it. | Aug 31 00:13 |
schestowitz | 'thought' or 'sex police' Enrico also seems to have a nuke fetish | Aug 31 00:14 |
schestowitz | 'thought' or 'sex police' Enrico also seems to have a nude fetish | Aug 31 00:14 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I see a lot of black people at Walmart who get in and just take their masks off and loaf about. | Aug 31 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's a reason why HALF of Waukegan has already had the Coronavirus. | Aug 31 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's slowing down because more people have had it than haven't at this point. | Aug 31 00:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Illinois passed a law to make hitting a retail worker who is conveying a public health message a felony. | Aug 31 00:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Half of it is Republicans and the other half is black people. | Aug 31 00:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | The black people are more likely to just pull out a gun and shoot though. The Karen usually just stops at tearing down the mask display and then going "I'M SORRY I'M SORRY!!! I THOUGHT THIS WAS AMERICA! ISN'T THIS AMERICA!?" while the cops are hauling it off. | Aug 31 00:25 |
schestowitz | aigh | Aug 31 00:26 |
schestowitz | sigh | Aug 31 00:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | The blacks and the Alt-Nazis finally have a shooting war going on. | Aug 31 00:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | This place is a shit show on its last season, Roy. | Aug 31 00:28 |
schestowitz | alt reich | Aug 31 00:28 |
schestowitz | it was brewing for a while | Aug 31 00:28 |
schestowitz | watch their channels | Aug 31 00:28 |
schestowitz | eugenics resurrected | Aug 31 00:28 |
schestowitz | and comparing black rights to communism or something | Aug 31 00:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Just bad enough to make life in America miserable. Not violent enough for them to kill each other and a new day begins. :/ | Aug 31 00:29 |
schestowitz | it's indeed, as you say, a "shitshow" | Aug 31 00:29 |
schestowitz | and... the president took a side | Aug 31 00:29 |
schestowitz | obama took neither in public | Aug 31 00:29 |
schestowitz | didn't fan the flames | Aug 31 00:29 |
schestowitz | but teh issue was long brewing | Aug 31 00:30 |
schestowitz | even before trump | Aug 31 00:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | They found some dead asshole in Portland with his dress up soldier and Blue Lives Matter shit on. | Aug 31 00:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | That's after the two black protesters were shot and killed by Rittenhouse, who is now facing 5 felonies in Wisconsin. | Aug 31 00:31 |
schestowitz | unemployed cretins and imbeciles have nothing left to use | Aug 31 00:31 |
schestowitz | they still have firearms and a sense of 'cause' | Aug 31 00:31 |
schestowitz | in saving 'Murica from 'invisible enemy' | Aug 31 00:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | This was a 17 year old from the burbs. | Aug 31 00:32 |
schestowitz | derelicts | Aug 31 00:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | I can't imagine he had anything to be pissed off about. | Aug 31 00:32 |
schestowitz | home it doesn't come to your hometown to roost | Aug 31 00:32 |
schestowitz | ends up in fires and curfews | Aug 31 00:32 |
schestowitz | kills everythng | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | not jsut humans, human activity | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | and people who can start to leave | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | so you have another detroit | Aug 31 00:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | They ripped Kenosha a new asshole in those riots. | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | seattle managed to get these things under control | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | I never heard about that place until the riots | Aug 31 00:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Now Trump's going there to use it as a campaign prop when he's the reason it happened. | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | so now it's synonymous with them | Aug 31 00:33 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: trump likes violence | Aug 31 00:34 |
schestowitz | he campaigns on it | Aug 31 00:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Kenosha is part of the Chicago region. | Aug 31 00:34 |
schestowitz | and then frames himself, the criminal and rapist, as "law and order" | Aug 31 00:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a suburb right over the state line from Lake County, IL. | Aug 31 00:34 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/why-americas-poor-are-praying-market-crash | Aug 31 00:36 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.zerohedge.com | Why America's Poor Are Praying For A Market Crash | Zero Hedge | Aug 31 00:36 | |
schestowitz | makes sense | Aug 31 00:36 |
schestowitz | anything that reboots the economic system | Aug 31 00:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | "As time goes on, this decoupling in spending between recipients of unemployment benefits and everyone else will only gross, especially once Trump's stopgap executive order fades away some time in late September, unless of course Congress gets off its ass and passes yet another stimulus package. | Aug 31 00:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | When could that happen? Well, if Democrats get their way, certainly not before the Nov 3 election, but there is one catalyst that could wake Congress from its theatrical stupor and spark legislation much sooner. A market crash." | Aug 31 00:37 |
schestowitz | like the new deal did | Aug 31 00:37 |
schestowitz | with social security etc. | Aug 31 00:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | A market crash means nothing really at this point. | Aug 31 00:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Stocks are supposedly roaring while they fire hundreds of thousands more, who won't be able to spend for long, permanently. | Aug 31 00:37 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: it's a ponzi scheme | Aug 31 00:38 |
schestowitz | the market value of some of those companies is faked | Aug 31 00:38 |
schestowitz | market cap manufactured | Aug 31 00:38 |
schestowitz | to help them increase stated worth | Aug 31 00:38 |
schestowitz | before he dumb comes the "pump" | Aug 31 00:38 |
schestowitz | Apple isn't worth 2 trillion | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | Aramco lol | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | how much is that shite worth now? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | uber? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | how much in losses per quarter? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | same for tesla | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | who the faq buys an EV now? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | to go where? Work? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | To impress who? | Aug 31 00:39 |
schestowitz | yuppies might | Aug 31 00:40 |
schestowitz | what's left of them | Aug 31 00:40 |
schestowitz | many got sacked | Aug 31 00:40 |
schestowitz | and NYC is boarded up | Aug 31 00:40 |
*schestowitz checks covid stats | Aug 31 00:41 | |
schestowitz | oooh | Aug 31 00:41 |
schestowitz | just one covid19 death reported today | Aug 31 00:41 |
schestowitz | all time low since february I think | Aug 31 00:42 |
schestowitz | 1 in n. ireland, wales scotland and england | Aug 31 00:42 |
schestowitz | but on tuesday the numbers will be higher | Aug 31 00:42 |
schestowitz | germay also one death | Aug 31 00:42 |
schestowitz | 470 new confirmed cases | Aug 31 00:43 |
scientes | psydread, TableGen (specifically the codegen backend) is quite difficult for me | Aug 31 00:43 |
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DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Yeah, losers and cretins at war with each other. | Aug 31 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | You want to know why I'm trying to get my FOID card back so I can buy a gun. | Aug 31 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | Could take months. | Aug 31 01:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'd just conceal and carry, meanwhile you've got people daydreaming about killing each other and how they'll tell everyone at court that they did it in self-defense after they threw an assault rifle in the car and went from Illinois to Wisconsin in the middle of a riot that the radio told them to stay away from. | Aug 31 01:26 |
kingoffrance | DaemonFC[m], anecdotally, cops who have vacation are using their vacation ...why by involved in all this if you dont have to? | Aug 31 01:30 |
kingoffrance | that "shots fired" "active shooter" doesnt surprise me at all | Aug 31 01:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Democrats should call out the National Guard but don't. | Aug 31 01:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | If Trump actually will have the federal government pay the Guard to be deployed under orders of the governor, why not? | Aug 31 01:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It sure would make the crime like....stop immediately. | Aug 31 01:33 |
kingoffrance | its supposed to be the modern militia, yes | Aug 31 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Chicago really does need to have the National Guard on the streets now. | Aug 31 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're just shooting everyone down there. | Aug 31 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Cops, people eating pancakes. | Aug 31 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's a complete disaster. | Aug 31 01:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then that damned prosecutor lets a third of them go with no charges. | Aug 31 01:34 |
schestowitz | same as us war tribunal | Aug 31 01:34 |
schestowitz | when do they ever hold soldiers and general (giving orders) accountable? | Aug 31 01:34 |
schestowitz | never | Aug 31 01:34 |
schestowitz | and us more or less boycotts icc too | Aug 31 01:35 |
schestowitz | except when it prosecutes non-allies | Aug 31 01:35 |
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MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/683763.jpg | Aug 31 01:46 |
kingoffrance | my point being, whatever other militia may or may not exist, or may or may not is supposed to exist..the national guard is the official modern one | Aug 31 01:56 |
kingoffrance | thats what they're there for | Aug 31 01:56 |
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DaemonFC[m] | State governors are supposed to call up the National Guard when the local police have lost control. | Aug 31 02:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | The local police are getting ventilated with the best of us lately. | Aug 31 02:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I'd say that (legally) qualifies. | Aug 31 02:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | They're letting the looting and burning and raping and pillaging go on because they don't want to admit that they've done a terrible job governing and all of this entitlement mentality has come home to roost. | Aug 31 02:14 |
kingoffrance | ok i dont doubt that, that is good to know -- because the old one when it was state citizens says the feds can call them up, but they belong to the states. i didnt explicitly see the states calling them up anywhere, but i didnt look too hard, i took that as an assumption that belonging to the states the states might call them up too. | Aug 31 02:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | You only see it going on in blue states because the ones in the red states know the Guard would be mobilized immediately. | Aug 31 02:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | They know the blue states won't bother doing anything about it while nasty little gangbangers run all of their taxpayers and businesses out. | Aug 31 02:15 |
kingoffrance | thats good, it means i didnt misspeak the other day | Aug 31 02:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | Trump could call up the Illinois national guard and declare that what's going on in Chicago is a violent insurrection. | Aug 31 02:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | It would be legal, but he thinks by letting it go on that it will play out in the court of public opinion in his favor. | Aug 31 02:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | In practice, it's really just not done. Hasn't been done in decades. | Aug 31 02:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | Last time a president called up the National Guard and used them against the state they were in was when Kennedy enforced school desegregation in the early 60s. | Aug 31 02:17 |
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schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: https://www.ocregister.com/2020/08/27/how-many-refinances-are-you-allowed-to-do-during-a-pandemic | Aug 31 02:33 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.ocregister.com | How many refinances are you allowed during a pandemic? – Orange County Register | Aug 31 02:33 | |
psydread | > "I'm sorry Dr. Roy, but these days there are a lot of tech companies that are worse than Microsoft: It's 2020 and Some GNU/Linux Sites Still Celebrate Mono, Even When Microsoft Owns and Controls It " | Aug 31 02:34 |
psydread | > Straw man argument | Aug 31 02:34 |
psydread | They got to the bride and bribed her too? | Aug 31 02:34 |
MinceR | how did the redmond mafia end up being compared with "tech companies" in the first place? | Aug 31 02:35 |
schestowitz | cult | Aug 31 02:36 |
schestowitz | psydread: shotgun wedding | Aug 31 02:36 |
psydread | lol | Aug 31 02:49 |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18896210#28039420cd4f01385f811ff28621e0d2 | Aug 31 02:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: The #LinuxFoundation is Not Even Using Linux to Prepare and Publish the #Linux #Kernel History Report http://techrights.org/2020/08/30/how-to-make-unneeded-scandal-with-adobe-indesign/ | Aug 31 02:53 | |
schestowitz | yeah it's become a shithole of corrupt scum bags. I wonder how hard it would be for the right people to fork the kernel and leave these idiots sucking each other's dick"" | Aug 31 02:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> techrights.org | The Linux Foundation is Not Even Using Linux to Prepare and Publish the Linux Kernel History Report | Techrights | Aug 31 02:53 | |
schestowitz | https://joindiaspora.com/posts/18896277#cfe1f180cd5c0138250c31381bb69bf0 | Aug 31 02:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@linux@joindiaspora.com: Open source Mario Kart clone SuperTuxKart 1.2 is FREE on Windows, Mac, and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141467#comment-26269 | Aug 31 02:53 | |
schestowitz | " | Aug 31 02:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights--> www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Bridge Constructor: The Walking Dead, SuperTuxKart, Sid Meier's Civilization VI and OBS Studio | Tux Machines | Aug 31 02:53 | |
schestowitz | Aug 31 02:53 | |
schestowitz | It's been free since 2004... | Aug 31 02:53 |
schestowitz | " | Aug 31 02:54 |
MinceR | i wonder what happened to the right people | Aug 31 02:54 |
psydread | did they all get infected with the deadly disease or move elsewhere? in the latter case where did they go? | Aug 31 03:00 |
MinceR | maybe they got tired of the project | Aug 31 03:02 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Well, if 200,000 people are dead and 95% of them are over 60, and 2/3rds of them admitted they voted for Trump.... | Aug 31 03:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | The Coronavirus got rid of 133,333 shitdicks and potentially 66,666 humans. | Aug 31 03:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | For a net total of -66,666 shitdicks. | Aug 31 03:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Too much and never enough. :/ | Aug 31 03:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: But statistically, it might have killed more net Trump voters than that. | Aug 31 03:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | It becomes incredibly lethal to old men, and the older, the more dangerous. | Aug 31 03:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | To the point where if my dad got it, he'd have about a 60% chance of living a month and leaving the hospital. | Aug 31 03:21 |
DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: Lots of people on Grindr in Moscow. | Aug 31 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | I wonder what Comrade Putin would say about that. | Aug 31 03:22 |
MinceR | "i'm sorry, i don't have _that_ much polonium!" | Aug 31 03:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | It seems like the prevailing opinion there is it's not specifically illegal, but it's not a great idea to be open about it. But in Chechnya they'll just make a beheading video of you for the internet. | Aug 31 03:23 |
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DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: It seems like widespread tolerance of gay people came about well into the far-right movements that spread the Western world, oddly enough. | Aug 31 03:24 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: That's not illegal nor prosecuted, right. | Aug 31 03:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: For some reason half the apartments I've rented don't have good parking, or any. | Aug 31 03:26 |
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DaemonFC[m] | There was one where I parked in a 2 hour spot every day for 8 months before they ticketed me. | Aug 31 03:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I pay the ticket and ask the lady "Hey, is there a city lot I could buy a permit for?". | Aug 31 03:26 |
MinceR | they overlook the need for parking spaces in this shithole as well | Aug 31 03:27 |
MinceR | shithole of a city, i mean | Aug 31 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | She goes "Yeah." and sells me a pass. Once I see what it looks like, I scan it into the computer and match the font and print out a new one every month. | Aug 31 03:27 |
MinceR | though the roads and public transport are also missing | Aug 31 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Park there for another year without paying the city. Nobody noticed. | Aug 31 03:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | <MinceR "though the roads and public tran"> Eh, Chicago has plenty of roads, just not enough parking. | Aug 31 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | They crammed about 3x as many people in the north side as it was meant for because nobody wants to live near "those people". | Aug 31 03:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | The ones of the rioting persuasion. | Aug 31 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | During normal times, they'll mug you if you wander into the wrong neighborhood, but now they're coming to you. | Aug 31 03:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | MinceR: Reparations.... | Aug 31 03:31 |
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DaemonFC[m] | https://thecrimereport.org/2015/06/09/2015-06-why-tough-on-crime-failed/ | Aug 31 04:07 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-thecrimereport.org | Why 'Tough on Crime' Failed | The Crime Report | Aug 31 04:07 | |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm kind of in favor of a barbell system. | Aug 31 04:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Which kind of leans towards either not much or throwing you away to rot forever and ever. | Aug 31 04:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Because there's petty offenses and there's ones that are mostly committed by people who, if we ever see them again, they'll do that or worse. | Aug 31 04:08 |
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schestowitz | what is the >goal<? | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | economic? | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | justice? | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | eugenicism? | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | at the moment justice isn't first | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | and slavery was never aboyt justice | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | but economic racism | Aug 31 04:13 |
schestowitz | that sort of prevails now, with Wall Street... | Aug 31 04:14 |
schestowitz | but they keep telling us in corporate press releases about how much they LUUURVE "diversity" | Aug 31 04:14 |
schestowitz | saying the opposite of what they ar | Aug 31 04:14 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | Stasiek Michalski wins the race for the openSUSE Board | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141549 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Stasiek Michalski wins the race for the openSUSE Board | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | Review: BunsenLabs Linux Lithium | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141548 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Review: BunsenLabs Linux Lithium | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | Linux 5.9 RC3 | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141547 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Linux 5.9 RC3 | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | GNOME: Arc Menu, Evolution, GSoC and Games | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141546 | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | GNOME: Arc Menu, Evolution, GSoC and Games | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | EasyOS version 2.4.1 released | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141545 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | EasyOS version 2.4.1 released | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | KDE Akademy and GSoC Updates | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141544 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | KDE Akademy and GSoC Updates | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | VirtIO-FS DAX Support Close To Mainline For Offering Tremendous Performance Boost | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141543 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | VirtIO-FS DAX Support Close To Mainline For Offering Tremendous Performance Boost | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | Kernel: Rust, NTFS and Nintendo Switch | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141542 | Aug 31 04:58 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Kernel: Rust, NTFS and Nintendo Switch | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:58 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:58 |
schestowitz | Open source Mario Kart clone SuperTuxKart 1.2 is FREE on Windows, Mac, and Linux http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141467#comment-26269 | Aug 31 04:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Games: Bridge Constructor: The Walking Dead, SuperTuxKart, Sid Meier's Civilization VI and OBS Studio | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:59 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | today's howtos | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141541 | Aug 31 04:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | today's howtos | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:59 | |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | Break Free from Googleâs Tracking With Ungoogled-Chromium | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | http://www.tuxmachines.org/node/141540 | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.tuxmachines.org | Break Free from Google’s Tracking With Ungoogled-Chromium | Tux Machines | Aug 31 04:59 | |
schestowitz | #FSF #Censorship of #RichardStallman Supporters http://techrights.org/2020/08/30/fsf-censorship-mailing-list/ #rms #gnu | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | FSF Censorship of Richard Stallman Supporters | Techrights | Aug 31 04:59 | |
schestowitz | The #LinuxFoundation is Not Even Using Linux to Prepare and Publish the #Linux #Kernel History Report http://techrights.org/2020/08/30/how-to-make-unneeded-scandal-with-adobe-indesign/ | Aug 31 04:59 |
schestowitz | ➬ | Aug 31 04:59 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | The Linux Foundation is Not Even Using Linux to Prepare and Publish the Linux Kernel History Report | Techrights | Aug 31 04:59 | |
schestowitz | [until viera starts picking up again] | Aug 31 04:59 |
DaemonFC[m] | <schestowitz "but economic racism"> Oh, I hate the whole idea of slavery. | Aug 31 05:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | If they had left them all where they were at, we'd be living in a peaceful and low crime country now. | Aug 31 05:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | When states have called in the National Guard to suppress rioting in the past, it hasn't really worked well. | Aug 31 05:03 |
schestowitz | Countries have 'underclass' irrespective of race | Aug 31 05:03 |
DaemonFC[m] | The military even ended up attacking people who had nothing to do with the riots. | Aug 31 05:03 |
schestowitz | in the US many slaves became that exploited 'underclass' | Aug 31 05:03 |
schestowitz | if you think we have no troublemakers or 'yobs' here, you'd be wrong | Aug 31 05:03 |
schestowitz | the 2nd am is a problem | Aug 31 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yeah, chavs. | Aug 31 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | I've heard of the term anyway. | Aug 31 05:04 |
schestowitz | thankfully the misguided youngsters here don't have rifles | Aug 31 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sounds like what we call a wigger. | Aug 31 05:04 |
schestowitz | is that newspeak for "white trash"? | Aug 31 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | White people who listen to rap and sag their ass out of their pants. | Aug 31 05:04 |
DaemonFC[m] | Literally a "white n****r". | Aug 31 05:05 |
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schestowitz | whtaever. | Aug 31 05:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | No, there's more than one kind of white trash. | Aug 31 05:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | None of it is desirable. | Aug 31 05:05 |
schestowitz | if they get salaried better, maybe the country would be better off | Aug 31 05:05 |
schestowitz | but one person alone hoards 200,000 million bucks | Aug 31 05:05 |
DaemonFC[m] | All of it shares the same major points. Criminality, littering the place with welfare babies, etc. | Aug 31 05:06 |
schestowitz | give 100,000 away | Aug 31 05:06 |
schestowitz | to 2 million people | Aug 31 05:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | But wiggers listen to shitty rap and sag. | Aug 31 05:06 |
schestowitz | things improve | Aug 31 05:06 |
schestowitz | also, about the guns, seriously... | Aug 31 05:06 |
schestowitz | heck. | Aug 31 05:07 |
schestowitz | better yet | Aug 31 05:07 |
schestowitz | $10,000 | Aug 31 05:07 |
schestowitz | for 20 million americans | Aug 31 05:07 |
schestowitz | now we're talking | Aug 31 05:07 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, most gun laws are meant to strip them from blacks who have committed serious crimes. | Aug 31 05:07 |
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schestowitz | do the same for Gates and Buffett, Zuck... | Aug 31 05:07 |
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schestowitz | Suddenly you have 100 MILLION Americans who don't have to fear medical bills and homelessness | Aug 31 05:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Nobody makes people who can't afford kids fuck. | Aug 31 05:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can't blame that one on the dog. :P | Aug 31 05:08 |
schestowitz | you focus on race too much | Aug 31 05:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Condoms" | Aug 31 05:08 |
schestowitz | delinquency among "whites" in the Bible Belt is high also | Aug 31 05:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | Oh, I had a phase in my teens where I stole cigarettes and smoked a little pot and yeah I was meeting people off the internet. | Aug 31 05:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Nothing major. | Aug 31 05:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | You know, it's like everyone. | Aug 31 05:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | If the government knew half of what you did, you'd be fuuuuuuuucked. | Aug 31 05:10 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's probably good for most people that the government didn't catch them for even 1% of it. | Aug 31 05:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The law pretty much resets everything when you turn 18. | Aug 31 05:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | You can be punished, but it gets sealed. | Aug 31 05:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | It gives them incentive to offend. | Aug 31 05:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | They know pretty much anything that's not truly heinous will just disappear and they get a mulligan on their 18th birthday. | Aug 31 05:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | Gangs use 12 year olds to go shoot people because they know the system will feel sorry for the kid. | Aug 31 05:13 |
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DaemonFC[m] | When one of them mugged me he turned 18 in jail. | Aug 31 05:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | But I had to go testify against him at a juvenile court. | Aug 31 05:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | There was all this bullshit about how kids needed a different system because they're not just "younger people". | Aug 31 05:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | A 17 year old knows it's wrong to steal and carjack and rape. | Aug 31 05:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | The whole idea of NOT sending them away is offensive. | Aug 31 05:14 |
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scientes | <schestowitz> delinquency among "whites" in the Bible Belt is high also | Aug 31 14:50 |
scientes | and "delinquency" is the criminalization of jouth | Aug 31 14:50 |
scientes | *youth | Aug 31 14:50 |
scientes | and then those same *white* youth shoot up heroin and it is like "oh, we still love you, and will waste resources on you until your early death" | Aug 31 14:51 |
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MinceR | (cat) https://ircz.de/p/20012656 | Aug 31 15:20 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-ircz.de | IRCZ makes your life worth living Post object (4311820) | Aug 31 15:20 | |
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schestowitz | Ariadne: a day ago pleroma.site completed the upgrade and viera isn't picking up updates from there still | Aug 31 16:17 |
Ariadne | ok | Aug 31 16:17 |
Ariadne | I will move viera to the new Colo today | Aug 31 16:18 |
schestowitz | That bot helps a lot in both channel | Aug 31 16:20 |
schestowitz | I have manual fallbacks, but they're nowhere as good | Aug 31 16:20 |
schestowitz | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1300317828696989699 | Aug 31 16:29 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: @schestowitz no pdf of the slides? | Aug 31 16:29 | |
schestowitz | zoobab: that I know of | Aug 31 16:29 |
zoobab | just replied to Keith Bergelt post of FB | Aug 31 16:36 |
zoobab | requoting Bruce | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | ha | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | Facebook... | Aug 31 16:37 |
zoobab | I was searching for the old quote of Bergelt who even said himself that OINOIN does not work against trolls | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | If FB in OIN? | Aug 31 16:37 |
zoobab | I have it somewhere | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | can you find it? | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | I'd repost it | Aug 31 16:37 |
schestowitz | it's always good to have it documented as evidence from the CEO's mouth | Aug 31 16:38 |
zoobab | it is somewhere on wikidot | Aug 31 16:38 |
schestowitz | is it just text and/or direct full quote? | Aug 31 16:39 |
zoobab | it's a quote | Aug 31 16:41 |
oiaohm | zoobab: https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/11/19/1949239/0/en/Open-Invention-Network-Teams-with-IBM-Linux-Foundation-and-Microsoft-to-Further-Protect-Open-Source-from-Patent-Trolls.html Things are shifting over the years. | Aug 31 16:43 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.globenewswire.com | Open Invention Network Teams with IBM, Linux Foundation and Microsoft to Further Protect Open Source from Patent Trolls | Aug 31 16:43 | |
zoobab | questions for Breton: | Aug 31 16:47 |
zoobab | https://twitter.com/ThierryBreton/status/1300453158410485763 | Aug 31 16:47 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThierryBreton: It’s back to 💼 season! Join me tomorrow at 8:30 AM for a (virtual) fireside chat with POLITICO’s @florianeder 🔥💬… https://t.co/gsuHsrqsqD | Aug 31 16:47 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@ThierryBreton: It’s back to 💼 season! Join me tomorrow at 8:30 AM for a (virtual) fireside chat with POLITICO’s @florianeder 🔥💬… https://t.co/gsuHsrqsqD | Aug 31 16:47 | |
scientes | psydread, implicit meaning requires the consultation of the part of the brain responsible for lying and detecting liars. This causes stress, which inhibits learning and leads to superstition. This is the part of the Iliad where Achilies desecrates the statue of Apollo contrary to the beliefs of his chief advisor Nestor | Aug 31 16:50 |
oiaohm | zoobab: https://www.thepatent.news/2020/06/03/interview-ceo-open-invention-network/ This contains the note about funding https://patroll.unifiedpatents.com/ from OIN this is fun bounties to nuke patents. | Aug 31 16:53 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-www.thepatent.news | Exclusive interview with the CEO of Open Invention Network | Aug 31 16:53 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-patroll.unifiedpatents.com | Unified Patents - Patroll | Aug 31 16:53 | |
oiaohm | Recent changes OIN has alter location from just collecting patents and funding nothing aggressive. To in fact funding some aggressive actions to get rid of patents trolls have. | Aug 31 16:54 |
oiaohm | Its going to be interesting to see if those changes have any effect on patent troll count in a few years. | Aug 31 16:55 |
schestowitz | oiaohm: you are full of it, pardon the phrase | Aug 31 17:06 |
schestowitz | OIN and Microsoft exposed what this thing is | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | and techrights did many very detailed posts about it since | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | zoobab:if you can find that exact quote, it'll be awesome | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | you mentioned back then he said that | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | but I don't remember a direct full quote | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | I think he responded to some question at an event | Aug 31 17:07 |
schestowitz | mayeb there's a video of the talk_q&a | Aug 31 17:08 |
schestowitz | we can ffmpeg is and split | Aug 31 17:08 |
schestowitz | (crop) | Aug 31 17:08 |
schestowitz | we wrote a new program to do this | Aug 31 17:08 |
zoobab | I made another quote on UPC: | Aug 31 17:14 |
zoobab | https://twitter.com/zoobab/status/1300466433470738432 | Aug 31 17:14 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Karlsruhe on UPC: "Rules of procedure not does not provide for parliamentary participation and does not contain any… https://t.co/kk1gYePvhe | Aug 31 17:14 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-@zoobab: Karlsruhe on UPC: "Rules of procedure not does not provide for parliamentary participation and does not contain any… https://t.co/kk1gYePvhe | Aug 31 17:14 | |
zoobab | it echoes what we have been saying for years | Aug 31 17:14 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/687976.jpg | Aug 31 17:28 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/687524.jpg | Aug 31 17:52 |
zoobab | what would be funny is that they would not notice, and that we make a round again | Aug 31 17:57 |
zoobab | but they will probably copy/paste and ask the parliament(s) to rubberstamp | Aug 31 17:57 |
MinceR | https://hugelolcdn.com/i/687578.jpg | Aug 31 18:16 |
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oiaohm | schestowitz: I have not seen you cover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unified_Patents fully Yes this is 2012 this starts to deal with patent trolls. 2019 OIN decides to fund into it. http://techrights.org/2020/07/21/qualcomm-patent-trolls/ This here turned out to be possible due to OIN and Microsoft funding. | Aug 31 18:39 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-en.wikipedia.org | Unified Patents - Wikipedia | Aug 31 18:39 | |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-techrights.org | Unified Patents Comes to Europe, Challenging Bogus Software Patents That EPO Should Never Have Granted | Techrights | Aug 31 18:39 | |
oiaohm | Bigger question what happened that OIN has moved from passive not funding any anti troll actions to in fact moving into funding those actions. | Aug 31 18:40 |
oiaohm | Same with Microsoft. | Aug 31 18:40 |
oiaohm | Its something 2019. | Aug 31 18:40 |
oiaohm | November 19, 2019 is the announcement and the commencement of funding into Unified Patents from OIN and Microsoft. | Aug 31 18:42 |
oiaohm | Its not like Microsoft or OIN to hand over money without some motivation. | Aug 31 18:42 |
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DaemonFC[m] | I switched my artificial coffee sweetener from Splenda to Stevia. | Aug 31 20:06 |
DaemonFC[m] | Seems like I'm always behind everyone and just switch over when the patents expire. | Aug 31 20:06 |
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DaemonFC[m] | There was intense lobbying to keep stevia out of the US. | Aug 31 20:08 |
DaemonFC[m] | For years you had to buy it marked "Dietary Supplement" instead of "sweetener" and then dump it in your coffee that way. | Aug 31 20:09 |
DaemonFC[m] | Reminds me of those old anti-margarine laws that dairy states used to have. | Aug 31 20:09 |
*XRevan86 is so behind he doesn't know what all that stuff is and uses glucose for his tea. | Aug 31 20:10 | |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: What are the benefits compared to sugar? | Aug 31 20:11 |
DaemonFC[m] | The FDA was protecting aspartame and sucralose (Equal and Splenda) until Coca Cola applied for Stevia, but you avoid Coke's patents by not producing the stevia the same way they do. | Aug 31 20:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | So it's approved and the patent is trivial to bypass. | Aug 31 20:12 |
DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "DaemonFC: What are the benefits "> Tastes like sugar, no calories, derived from a plant. | Aug 31 20:12 |
*XRevan86 doesn't care about energy properties, or rather personally considers that a plus. | Aug 31 20:12 | |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So, to a person who likes "calories", that's worse? | Aug 31 20:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | I suppose. | Aug 31 20:13 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The from a plant part sounded kind of woo woo to me. The whole reason I switched from aspartame to sucralose is that aspartame loses its sweetness if exposed to heat. | Aug 31 20:14 |
*XRevan86 wonders about other properties like risks of developing diabetes. | Aug 31 20:14 | |
DaemonFC[m] | So while it works in iced tea, not so much in hot drinks. | Aug 31 20:14 |
MinceR | works for me in hot drinks, maybe they're not _so_ hot :> | Aug 31 20:15 |
MinceR | though i do need to add a _tiny_ bit of sugar to make it taste sweet | Aug 31 20:15 |
MinceR | i guess one type of receptors isn't fooled | Aug 31 20:15 |
DaemonFC[m] | > * <@freenode_XRevan86:matrix.org> wonders about other properties like risks of developing diabetes. | Aug 31 20:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | Presumably more with sugar, but who knows? The studies that made me begin to question sucralose were the ones where it feeds bad gut bacteria. | Aug 31 20:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | There's always been a warning on diet ice cream and stuff not to eat too much because the Splenda will make you have gas and possibly shit yourself. | Aug 31 20:16 |
MinceR | everything is toxic. | Aug 31 20:17 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: So it's a laxative? | Aug 31 20:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | While you need to eat almost half a gallon of ice cream to begin getting to the shit yourself part, I have an ex who is bulimic who found that out. | Aug 31 20:18 |
XRevan86 | MinceR: Even a sufficient dose of water is | Aug 31 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | The one who shot the guy while playing with a shotgun in a field in Indiana. B-) | Aug 31 20:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "DaemonFC: So it's a laxative?"> In large quantities, yeah. An explosive laxative effect. | Aug 31 20:19 |
DaemonFC[m] | Coca Cola operates like a tobacco company. | Aug 31 20:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | In the same way they spent years trying to market their way around government regulations that pointed out that there is no such thing as a safe cigarette (including making filters that did nothing, but whose only purpose was to turn brown when the cigarette was smoked), Coke constantly tries to come up with products that it pitches as somehow less bad for you because people have gotten wise and are drinking less Cok | Aug 31 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | and more water. | Aug 31 20:22 |
DaemonFC[m] | So Coke lobbied heavily for a Stevia-based sweetener to be approved, and then used it in a "Coca Cola Life" drink. | Aug 31 20:23 |
XRevan86 | It's a sad life | Aug 31 20:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | The government has a "relationship" with tobacco, right? They get constant tax revenue. So the companies basically have a standing permit to market dangerous products that everyone agrees kills people, in exchange for generating more taxes than the medical bills cost the government. | Aug 31 20:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | In Indiana, the state expanded Medicaid before the ACA, and to get funding, they raised the price of a pack of cigarettes by $1.04. | Aug 31 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | So you have Medicaid for more people, but look at what you accepted to fund it. | Aug 31 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | The higher taxes might cause 5% of your smokers to quit, but the rest just pay the tax. | Aug 31 20:25 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's sick and it's wrong and it's destroying lives. It's like legal gambling. | Aug 31 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | So I refuse to accept that gambling is the cure all for Illinois' budget crisis. | Aug 31 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | We need the new income tax code and we need budget cuts. | Aug 31 20:26 |
DaemonFC[m] | They won't tell people that even with the new taxes they'd need severe cuts to balance the budget. | Aug 31 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: If I could get rid of the lottery, I would. | Aug 31 20:27 |
DaemonFC[m] | Even in the middle of like 20% unemployment, you see people buying 50 scratchers at the gas station where they just cashed their paycheck. | Aug 31 20:28 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: You don't like screwing poor people into more poverty? | Aug 31 20:28 |
DaemonFC[m] | No, because the state has gotten used to bringing in its revenue with taxes on the people who aren't doing well anyway. | Aug 31 20:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then you just get extreme poverty in place of poverty, and more crime! | Aug 31 20:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | In Russia, to make people accept bad government, they apparently just subsidize drinking yourself to death so you'll shut up. | Aug 31 20:30 |
XRevan86 | DaemonFC[m]: Have you heard of a concept of a microloan? | Aug 31 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | I couldn't imagine things ever getting there. | Aug 31 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | Much more efficient to just shoot people until they know what will happen if they protest. This whole country is going full Handmaid's Tale. | Aug 31 20:30 |
XRevan86 | The taxes on alcohol, as I heard, are pretty high. | Aug 31 20:30 |
DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "The taxes on alcohol, as I heard"> Yeah, but the stuff is cheap to make so in many states, there's huge alcohol rebates straight from the manufacturer that undo the taxes. | Aug 31 20:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you mail it in. | Aug 31 20:31 |
XRevan86 | I didn't dig into that topic as I don't drink beverages with any considerable amount of alcohol. | Aug 31 20:31 |
DaemonFC[m] | <XRevan86 "DaemonFC: Have you heard of a co"> Yeah, we have apps where they spot you like $50 or $75. | Aug 31 20:32 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's way cheaper than a payday loan, so the payday loan people who normally charge 250% interest, which is like 2 points less than Sammy the Shark, are not happy and are trying to make the apps illegal because the interest is like 5%. | Aug 31 20:33 |
DaemonFC[m] | You could probably get a payday loan right before filing bankruptcy and just carry it over to the point where only half is paid back (via interest-only deferrals) and come out $1,000 ahead. | Aug 31 20:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | They probably wouldn't fight it because they screw everyone else so badly. | Aug 31 20:34 |
DaemonFC[m] | Credit card companies don't fight it for the same reason, at 10% of that interest level. ;) | Aug 31 20:34 |
psydread | scientes, I haven't read that part yet, just bits and pieces from the Iliad and the Odyssee. I should bite the bullet and read them in English or some other modern language (I have French translations I bought when I was in Brussels for FOSDEM and had an hour before I had to take the tram to the train station) | Aug 31 20:36 |
DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86 I had to make some installments on a personal loan for a while leading unto the bankruptcy, but it was a lot less than I borrowed because by the time the car got repossessed I had been making minimum payments on everything else. | Aug 31 20:37 |
DaemonFC[m] | Finally I did what the bankruptcy lawyers said and screw everyone at the same time. | Aug 31 20:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | If you know bankruptcy is unavoidable, you're just bleeding money at that point, which you won't get back. | Aug 31 20:38 |
DaemonFC[m] | It takes years to get sued normally, and you only have to cool off for about 6 months. | Aug 31 20:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | Just wait for your mailbox to explode with nasty letters and take the bag full of those to the bankruptcy lawyer. S/he will figure it all out. | Aug 31 20:40 |
DaemonFC[m] | XRevan86: I read that story about the Russian guy who rewrote the terms of his credit card account and printed it out. | Aug 31 20:41 |
DaemonFC[m] | The bank didn't read it and they agreed to 0% interest and an unlimited credit line. Someone at the bank actually set the account up like that, then they tried to sue him and lost. | Aug 31 20:42 |
XRevan86 | found it, from 2013, Voronezh, Tinkoff | Aug 31 20:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | I didn't sleep well. | Aug 31 20:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | The fire alarm kept going off and telling me there was a fire and that I was being poisoned by carbon monoxide too. | Aug 31 20:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | Reminds me of Red Dwarf where Rimmer commented that nothing worked right and the fire alarm went off if you happened to walk by and cough. | Aug 31 20:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | Then I got about 15 scam calls that rang right past Sprint's spam call blocker, like usual. | Aug 31 20:57 |
DaemonFC[m] | "Your Social Security number has been compromised and we have suspended access to "IT" (eye-tee)." | Aug 31 20:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | "You must speak to one of our agents to restore it. | Aug 31 20:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Of course Indian scammers don't think we're all stupid enough to fall for it. | Aug 31 21:02 |
DaemonFC[m] | But if 1 in 300 does they can probably commit enough fraud to make the whole operation profitable. | Aug 31 21:03 |
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DaemonFC[m] | Wikipedia said there's a province of Fiji that didn't get TV until the late 1990s. | Aug 31 21:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Incidence of Bulimia went from 0% in 1995 to 11.5% in 1998. | Aug 31 21:13 |
DaemonFC[m] | Also, Bulimics have a 7.5x higher risk off sucide than the overall population. | Aug 31 21:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Mass media leads to psychiatric issues which lead to suicide. Of course they do. | Aug 31 21:14 |
DaemonFC[m] | Stallman said not to watch mass media coverage of COVID-19 and that he knew a guy who just stayed on the couch for almost a year watching the news after 9/11 and it warped his mind so badly that he started to develop irrational fear of terrorism. That was the whole point of Fox News Channel. To get people like my mom and dad to develop insane fears of things that are really not much risk to make support for wars. | Aug 31 21:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | (Which killed more Americans than the terrorists did that day.) | Aug 31 21:16 |
DaemonFC[m] | The mass media is designed to warp and pervert people's ideas of what is normal into what the billionaires who own it want them to think. To turn otherwise reasonable people into stupid robots at their command. | Aug 31 21:17 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: The government is hamming up COVID-19, really. Almost all of the deaths are people twice my age. | Aug 31 21:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | The people who have lived too long already and pervert government policy to take from people who have a full life ahead of them to give to people on the way out. | Aug 31 21:18 |
DaemonFC[m] | Humans that old are only alive in the sense that pills and expensive surgery keep them that way for a couple years at a time. | Aug 31 21:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | It shouldn't be a shock then that CDC says 94% of the dead are old and had serious health issues and that COVID-19 was just the last straw. | Aug 31 21:20 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's not helping that Fox News is giving a platform to anti-vaccine cranks so that they'll have a mass gathering to protest a flu shot in the middle of the Coronavirus pandemic. | Aug 31 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | Two very large and high quality studies recently said that the flu shot cuts your risk of Alzheimer's by 17% and cuts the risk of a serious COVID-19 infection by 8%. | Aug 31 21:23 |
DaemonFC[m] | But the anti-science kooks have been allowed a platform and they've actually gotten more kids killed than John Wayne Gacy, and my mom is part of that skepticism of vaccines. | Aug 31 21:24 |
DaemonFC[m] | Sadistic child killers like Gacy are rate limited by opportunity, but when my mother shares anti-vaccine shit on Facebook, she's effectively joined a disinformation botnet than can cause unlimited harm. | Aug 31 21:29 |
DaemonFC[m] | I'm glad that the Governor of Massachusetts has set the strictest in the country vaccine laws for the flu shot. What you're going to see is the mildest flu season ever in Massachusetts while everyone else deals with what happens from letting half their population be fucking morons. | Aug 31 21:32 |
scientes | psydread, well I am thinking from the movie with Brad Pitt | Aug 31 21:36 |
schestowitz | [18:42] <oiaohm> Its not like Microsoft or OIN to hand over money without some motivation. | Aug 31 22:27 |
schestowitz | Unified was infiltrated by Microsoft in recent years | Aug 31 22:27 |
schestowitz | to the point where they let them do talks etc. | Aug 31 22:27 |
schestowitz | even though Microsoft itself is trolling | Aug 31 22:28 |
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DaemonFC[m] | The hotel manager just raised the rates, but she grandfathered us in. | Aug 31 23:41 |
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DaemonFC[m] | She said as long as we wanted to stay here. | Aug 31 23:41 |
schestowitz | awesome | Aug 31 23:43 |
schestowitz | Maybe you can help her out in exchange for rates coverage | Aug 31 23:44 |
schestowitz | all sorts of fixing and maintenance jobs | Aug 31 23:44 |
schestowitz | (if that's legal an exchange... I think it is) | Aug 31 23:44 |
DaemonFC[m] | Gotta ask the government, officially. Maybe unofficially. | Aug 31 23:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | I noticed how they don't keep staff too long. | Aug 31 23:46 |
DaemonFC[m] | Demand for nightly/weekly stays is down. If she raises rates on her monthly people, she risks having them bolt and look for an apartment, so it makes business sense. | Aug 31 23:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | The whole apartment thing, I'm not sure about. | Aug 31 23:47 |
DaemonFC[m] | You end up paying like 90-95% as much as you would here anyway and there's too many liabilities. | Aug 31 23:47 |
schestowitz | [23:47] <DaemonFC[m]> Demand for nightly/weekly stays is down. If she raises rates on her monthly people, she risks having them bolt and look for an apartment, so it makes business sense. | Aug 31 23:48 |
schestowitz | There is overhead associated with finding new staff and 'tenants' | Aug 31 23:48 |
schestowitz | as well as risk | Aug 31 23:48 |
schestowitz | e.g. bringing saboteurs and troublemakers in | Aug 31 23:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | yeah, the ones who have been here forever are the ones that aren't having the police out and breaking stuff and things. | Aug 31 23:48 |
schestowitz | some for people who find people to rent, so charge freezes are common | Aug 31 23:48 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's less of a hassle to deal with them. | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | yeah | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | BTW, only 2 covid deaths reported today here | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | 1 yesterday | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | we went back to the gym today | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | after 33 days | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | and went out for 3 meals, all half price | Aug 31 23:49 |
DaemonFC[m] | It's still pretty bad here, but things crashed in Lake County when Waukegan hit over 50% infected. | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | today was the last day of the "scheme" | Aug 31 23:49 |
schestowitz | CDC downplaying the issue now | Aug 31 23:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | So there's evidence of herd immunity that I'm seeing here. | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | CDC head and deputy left | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | now CDC is "his master's voice" | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | (i.e. Pence-Trump) | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | how appalling | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | they try to win a PR war | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | like a coporation | Aug 31 23:50 |
schestowitz | not that truth matters, only perception | Aug 31 23:50 |
DaemonFC[m] | Yes, I read about that. It's just disgusting really. Trump is emptying out the FDA, CDC, and others of anyone who won't fall on their swords and get behind whatever junk science and political expediency that he finds useful. | Aug 31 23:51 |
schestowitz | "everyone will get it eventually, anyway.." | Aug 31 23:51 |
schestowitz | (i.e. we lost, we gave up... losing it "WINNING") | Aug 31 23:51 |
schestowitz | *is | Aug 31 23:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | I was talking to the manager about that when she asked if I would take the vaccine. | Aug 31 23:51 |
DaemonFC[m] | I told her, "Well, I'm 36, so probably I'd wait to see what it does to others. But 80-90 year olds don't have the luxury and it's a totally different risk calculation with them, between a potentially defective vaccine and the virus, which is a huge danger to them.". | Aug 31 23:52 |
schestowitz | https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916?resultClick=1 | Aug 31 23:52 |
-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights-jamanetwork.com | Outcomes of Cardiovascular Magnetic Resonance Imaging in Patients Recently Recovered From Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) | Cardiology | JAMA Cardiology | JAMA Network | Aug 31 23:52 | |
schestowitz | so what if 100 million Americans will have damaged cardio-vascular systems? | Aug 31 23:52 |
schestowitz | For up to 80 years... | Aug 31 23:52 |
schestowitz | so what? | Aug 31 23:52 |
schestowitz | More 'health' 'care' business | Aug 31 23:52 |
schestowitz | DaemonFC[m]: and medical workings | Aug 31 23:53 |
schestowitz | *working people | Aug 31 23:53 |
schestowitz | the 'front liners' | Aug 31 23:53 |
DaemonFC[m] | schestowitz: Well, it's important to note that exposure levels seem to correlate to severity of disease. When Governor Pritzker ordered masks, no excuses, throughout the state, our positive tests kept staying high, but hospitalizations and deaths fell by more than 90%. He made the right call, and if you look over at Indiana, they're barely even testing for it and they're still experiencing daily results that are 50% | Aug 31 23:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | higher than two weeks ago. It's because they are less educated, less likely to believe in science. More likely to believe that masks are a QAnon conspiracy theory of some sort, like my mom and dad.... It's a state full of mom and dad, and that's why this virus is out of control. | Aug 31 23:58 |
DaemonFC[m] | Masks seem to do something to prevent spread, but more importantly, they keep exposure levels down and that's how they save lives. It's better to think of this virus in terms of radiation exposure. More is worse. | Aug 31 23:58 |
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