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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  NetBSD 10.0 RC4 available! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/NetBSD_10_0_RC4_available.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/NetBSD_10_0_RC4_available.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:35
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Free Software Reviews/Overviews in Medevel ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Free_Software_Reviews_Overviews_in_Medevel.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Free_Software_Reviews_Overviews_in_Medevel.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:40
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  World Wide Web: Curl, Firefox, Mozilla ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/World_Wide_Web_Curl_Firefox_Mozilla.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/World_Wide_Web_Curl_Firefox_Mozilla.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Audiocasts/Shows: mintCast and FLOSS Weekly ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Audiocasts_Shows_mintCast_and_FLOSS_Weekly.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Audiocasts_Shows_mintCast_and_FLOSS_Weekly.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:45
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Linux-Friendly Devices and Arduino IDE 2.3 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Linux_Friendly_Devices_and_Arduino_IDE_2_3.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Linux_Friendly_Devices_and_Arduino_IDE_2_3.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Clear Linux, Zorin OS, Damn Small Linux, and More on Distributions ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Clear_Linux_Zorin_OS_Damn_Small_Linux_and_More_on_Distributions.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Clear_Linux_Zorin_OS_Damn_Small_Linux_and_More_on_Distributions.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:52
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Windows, DRM, and Microsoft ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Windows_DRM_and_Microsoft.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Windows_DRM_and_Microsoft.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:54
techrights-newsTechrights β€” Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎Feb 09 00:57
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 09/02/2024: Microsoft Shutting Down More Offices, FTC Threatens to Halt Microsoft-Activision Merger ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Microsoft_Shutting_Down_More_Offices_FTC_Threa.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Microsoft_Shutting_Down_More_Offices_FTC_Threa.gmi ∎Feb 09 00:57
techrights-secafkFeb 09 01:06
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  I Switched to Linux Full Time. There’s seemingly been a recent uptick… ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/I_Switched_to_Linux_Full_Time_There_s_seemingly_been_a_recent_u.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/I_Switched_to_Linux_Full_Time_There_s_seemingly_been_a_recent_u.gmi ∎Feb 09 01:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Microsoft Sabotages Linux, Then Blames Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Microsoft_Sabotages_Linux_Then_Blames_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Microsoft_Sabotages_Linux_Then_Blames_Linux.gmi ∎Feb 09 01:57
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Feb 09 01:59
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla Corporation's Mitchell Baker Stepping Down ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Mozilla_Corporation_s_Mitchell_Baker_Stepping_Down.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Mozilla_Corporation_s_Mitchell_Baker_Stepping_Down.gmi ∎Feb 09 02:17
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Feb 09 02:31
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Kernel and LWN: Linux, Joe Brockmeier, and Paying for Tests ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Kernel_and_LWN_Linux_Joe_Brockmeier_and_Paying_for_Tests.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Kernel_and_LWN_Linux_Joe_Brockmeier_and_Paying_for_Tests.gmi ∎Feb 09 02:32
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techrights-newsTechrights – EPO Staff Explains That With Phony 'Quality Audits' the EPO is "in Breach of the EPC" (European Patent Convention) and Patent Examiners Are Compelled to Act in Breach of the EPC ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/EPO_Staff_Explains_That_With_Phony_Quality_Audits_the_EPO_is_in.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/EPO_Staff_Explains_That_With_Phony_Quality_Audits_the_EPO_is_inFeb 09 03:07
techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] Sadly He is Above the Law ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Meme_Sadly_He_is_Above_the_Law.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Meme_Sadly_He_is_Above_the_Law.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:14
techrights-newsTechrights – In 2024 Dialogue at the European Patent Office (EPO) is Broken, Laws Cease to Apply ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/In_2024_Dialogue_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_is_Broken_La.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/In_2024_Dialogue_at_the_European_Patent_Office_EPO_is_Broken_La.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:32
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techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] EPO Management's 'Meetings' With Staff Representatives ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Meme_EPO_Management_s_Meetings_With_Staff_Representatives.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Meme_EPO_Management_s_Meetings_With_Staff_Representatives.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:45
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Thursday, February 08, 2024 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/IRC_Proceedings_Thursday_February_08_2024.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/IRC_Proceedings_Thursday_February_08_2024.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:49
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:50
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Feb 09 03:51
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techrights-newsMicrosoft is Stacking a Closed Door Panel in Washington (Commissioned by a Microsoft-Sponsored Senator), Pushing Its Products Using Buzzwords and Getting More Bailouts From the US Government, i.e. From Taxpayers https://techrights.org/o/2023/09/14/microsoft-is-stacking-panels/Feb 09 04:43
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Gameeky released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Gameeky_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Gameeky_released.gmi ∎Feb 09 06:16
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  ODROID-M1S review – Part 2: Ubuntu 20.04 benchmarks and features testing ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/ODROID_M1S_review_Part_2_Ubuntu_20_04_benchmarks_and_features_t.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/ODROID_M1S_review_Part_2_Ubuntu_20_04_benchmarks_and_features_t.gmi ∎Feb 09 06:31
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Debian͏ vs ͏Ub͏untu: Which i͏s the͏ best Linux di͏s͏tro in͏ ͏2024? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Debian_vs_Ubuntu_Which_is_the_best_Linux_distro_in_2024.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Debian_vs_Ubuntu_Which_is_the_best_Linux_distro_in_2024.gmi ∎Feb 09 06:34
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  What is a swap file in Linux and how much should you use? ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/What_is_a_swap_file_in_Linux_and_how_much_should_you_use.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/What_is_a_swap_file_in_Linux_and_how_much_should_you_use.gmi ∎Feb 09 06:39
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Android_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Feb 09 06:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  CERBERUS2100: A Multi-CPU Open-Source Educational Microcomputer ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/CERBERUS2100_A_Multi_CPU_Open_Source_Educational_Microcomputer.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/CERBERUS2100_A_Multi_CPU_Open_Source_Educational_Microcomputer.gmi ∎Feb 09 07:06
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  KDE: 15-Minute Bug Initiative update ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/KDE_15_Minute_Bug_Initiative_update.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/KDE_15_Minute_Bug_Initiative_update.gmi ∎Feb 09 07:09
techrights-seceven theo has noted m$ latest embrace, extend, extinguish attackFeb 09 07:20
techrights-sechttps://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=170742832804260&w=2Feb 09 07:21
techrights-secalso: https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/09/mozilla_ceo_mitchell_baker_departs/Feb 09 07:21
techrights-sec"mission accomplished"Feb 09 07:21
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schestowitz-pii was gonna mention baker here ^_^Feb 09 07:49
techrights-secIt's good she's gone but Google will appoint someone worse.  WhatFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secis the background of that Laura Chambers?Feb 09 08:00
techrights-secAirbnb, eBay, PayPal, and 'Willow Innovations'Feb 09 08:00
techrights-seca bullshitter, and a placeholder for whatever Google appoints later thisFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secyear apparentlyFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secI saw the Baker links only after sending of the last batch of LinksFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secfwiw, i've switched over to using --open also, in this situationFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secit saves a lot of unnecessary clicks.  I was hoping that :has() wouldFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secwork in the new Chromium and Firefox but it does not, at least notFeb 09 08:00
techrights-secin the way which is needed.   Feb 09 08:00
schestowitz-pirrrrr git version works well for usFeb 09 08:01
schestowitz-pire firefox, i consider it "has x years left to live"Feb 09 08:01
schestowitz-pithen it'll be like using netscape in 2003Feb 09 08:01
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Games: BORE BLASTERS, MangoHud, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Games_BORE_BLASTERS_MangoHud_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Games_BORE_BLASTERS_MangoHud_and_More.gmi ∎Feb 09 08:04
techrights-sec'x' months ...Feb 09 08:13
techrights-secAs warned by othes a while back, once it dips below 2% the US governmentFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secwill cease testing against it and so will everyone else who follows Feb 09 08:13
techrights-secUS government guidelines.  So the trip from 1.999999% to 0% will be quick.Feb 09 08:13
techrights-secI think Baker hopped off with her 'job' done: FF will dip under 2% nextFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secquarter.  Then Mozilla will finish its 'pivot' to 'AI' and drop bothFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secthe broweser and the mail client.  The mail client will linger on a bit,Feb 09 08:13
techrights-secbut ultimately it is a variant of the browser.  Once the browser is deadFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secthe mail client will die.  That will kill the last of the significant IMAPSFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secclient and take the protocol with it, leaving Faecebook and Gmail in placeFeb 09 08:13
techrights-secof written communications, with a smattering of Telegram and Signal.  Feb 09 08:13
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Microsoft Faking 'Innovation' Again, Copying Sudo Like It Did in 2006 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/07/Microsoft_Faking_Innovation_Again_Copying_Sudo_Like_It_Did_in_2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/07/Microsoft_Faking_Innovation_Again_Copying_Sudo_Like_It_Did_in_2.gmi ∎Feb 09 08:26
techrights-newsHow To Install LEMP Stack on openSUSE ☞ https://idroot.us/install-lemp-stack-opensuse/Feb 09 08:42
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schestowitz-pii am less pessimistic than you :)Feb 09 08:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Feb 09 08:49
techrights-secI admire your optimism but don't think the recent years point to an optimisticFeb 09 08:50
techrights-secoutcome for either the e-mail client or the browser.  I could get by withoutFeb 09 08:50
techrights-secthe browser in principle, except for the fact that it the underlying  Feb 09 08:50
techrights-secbackbone of the mail client. Feb 09 08:50
schestowitz-piemail has been under attack especially since "googlemail" came outFeb 09 08:51
schestowitz-piirc is also besieged, but it's still goingFeb 09 08:51
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Windows TCO Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi ∎Feb 09 08:58
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, CERBERUS 2100, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_CERBERUS_2100_and_More.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_CERBERUS_2100_and_More.gmi ∎Feb 09 09:01
techrights-secWait till Google names a new produce 'IRC'Feb 09 09:12
techrights-secWho will Google appoint to Mozilla to replace Chambers?Feb 09 09:12
techrights-secIs there a short list of candidates?  Can we still write 'short list' orFeb 09 09:12
techrights-secis that ableist?Feb 09 09:12
schestowitz-pirianne and i agree better not to publicly commen t on moz atmFeb 09 09:13
schestowitz-pias that might seem "sexist" and "pissing on the grave"Feb 09 09:13
techrights-newsTechrights – Even the Doas Camp is Unhappy About What Microsoft Does to Sudo ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Even_the_Doas_Camp_is_Unhappy_About_What_Microsoft_Does_to_Sudo.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Even_the_Doas_Camp_is_Unhappy_About_What_Microsoft_Does_to_Sudo.gmi ∎Feb 09 09:17
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Even_the_Doas_Camp_is_Unhappy_About_What_Microsoft_Does_to_Sudo.shtmlFeb 09 09:18
schestowitz-pii am 99% certain openbsd uses doasFeb 09 09:18
techrights-secYes, OpenBSD moved to doas a long time ago.  It turned up in 5.8Feb 09 09:28
techrights-sechttps://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20150716215757&mode=expandedFeb 09 09:28
techrights-sechttps://marc.info/?l=openbsd-ports&m=143465998814989&w=2Feb 09 09:28
schestowitz-pisudo is bloated and not secureeFeb 09 09:30
schestowitz-piiirc, they considered a major rewriteFeb 09 09:30
techrights-secyes, there are a lot of problems with sudoFeb 09 09:31
techrights-sechowever, it is better than full root access for most tasks to be farmed outFeb 09 09:31
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  PostgreSQL 16.2, 15.6, 14.11, 13.14, and 12.18 Released! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/PostgreSQL_16_2_15_6_14_11_13_14_and_12_18_Released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/PostgreSQL_16_2_15_6_14_11_13_14_and_12_18_Released.gmi ∎Feb 09 09:48
techrights-secCanonical did a major disservice through popularizing severe misconfiguration Feb 09 09:50
techrights-secand abuse of sudo.  I'd guess 99% of new users have no idea what sudoFeb 09 09:50
techrights-secis about and how to configure it.  polkit is worse and more dangerous thoughFeb 09 09:50
schestowitz-pii am about 4 hours ahead of my usual baseliness for link progressFeb 09 10:37
schestowitz-picould use [topics]Feb 09 10:37
schestowitz-piwon't waste time on catspawFeb 09 10:37
schestowitz-pii am not naming trolls and instead highlighting they are very maliciousFeb 09 10:37
schestowitz-piand should be outright seen as vandalsFeb 09 10:37
schestowitz-pii think it _is_ important (imho)Feb 09 10:37
schestowitz-piotherwise it can look like "concern trolling" to an outsider Feb 09 10:37
techrights-secWhat ever you do write, please don't quote trolls verbatim like Feb 09 10:38
techrights-secwhat happened with the anti-SN troll.  The direct quoting only encouragesFeb 09 10:38
techrights-secthem.  Feb 09 10:38
techrights-secNot naming is the first step.  Not quoting any is the second step. ;)Feb 09 10:38
techrights-secThe other troll 'azumi-something has backed off mostly of late but sheFeb 09 10:38
techrights-secwas able to drive away key staff already a has done her 'job' already Feb 09 10:38
schestowitz-piwow, it really does seem familar thenFeb 09 10:39
schestowitz-pithe methods, that is...Feb 09 10:39
schestowitz-pi<soylentil101> =sub https://apnews.com/article/athens-greece-universities-protest-private-education-0a1d0bb9533eefec739e2ec9243dfcf9Feb 09 10:39
schestowitz-pi<soylentil101> Will there be any future meetings?Feb 09 10:39
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schestowitz-pinow the main target is janFeb 09 10:39
schestowitz-pithe most productive personFeb 09 10:39
techrights-secyes jan is the remaining key staff member and most productive thus Feb 09 10:39
techrights-secthe recipient of the most heat.Feb 09 10:39
schestowitz-pii see if I can help him somehow, without directly acknowledging the trollsFeb 09 10:40
schestowitz-pijan seems to appreciate the articles we didFeb 09 10:40
schestowitz-pi(explicitly)Feb 09 10:40
schestowitz-pican "vaccinate" people against these methodsFeb 09 10:40
techrights-secExcellent.  Feb 09 10:41
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schestowitz-piSoylent News Demonstrates Success by Focusing on Key Technology Issues Feb 09 10:43
schestowitz-pi<em>And the aggressive trolling against the site is sign that it has become effective as a site</em>Feb 09 10:43
schestowitz-piSoylent News Demonstrates Success by Focusing on Key Technology Issues Feb 09 10:43
schestowitz-pi<em>And the aggressive trolling against the site is sign that it has become effective as a site</em>Feb 09 10:43
techrights-secRemember not to quote the trolls, describe if necessary but do not feed them.Feb 09 10:43
schestowitz-pi   https://soylentnews.org/index.atomFeb 09 10:44
schestowitz-pi   https://soylentnews.org/index.rssFeb 09 10:44
schestowitz-pitoday sompi asked for full text rss feed for TR and he's not the first in ircFeb 09 10:45
schestowitz-piiirc, toby inkster, whom i know well from usenet, has a decent perl moduleFeb 09 10:46
schestowitz-pibut i don't know how to "escape" html chars for atom/rssFeb 09 10:46
techrights-seccheckingFeb 09 10:50
techrights-secwhich characters specifically?Feb 09 10:50
schestowitz-piiirc, for rss < needs escapingFeb 09 10:51
schestowitz-piand some stuff that causes ambiguityFeb 09 10:51
schestowitz-pibtw, gemini is under another wave os attacks by googleFeb 09 10:51
schestowitz-pirianne noticed before meFeb 09 10:51
schestowitz-pibard "renamed" geminiFeb 09 10:51
schestowitz-pif***ersFeb 09 10:51
techrights-sececho "foo <bar> baz" | perl -MHTML::Entities -n -e 'print encode_entities($_);'Feb 09 10:55
techrights-sec^ if you need a one-linerFeb 09 10:55
techrights-secIf that does not get all the suspect characters, then they can be passed as a  Feb 09 10:55
techrights-secstring to encode_entities() Feb 09 10:55
techrights-secperl -MHTML::Entities -n -e 'print encode_entities($_, "\200-\377");'Feb 09 10:55
schestowitz-pii realise the gemtext+html static system, by means of "modern" (reuse/libs) programming, becomes a perl-based CMS of sorts, with rss and allFeb 09 10:55
schestowitz-pii just thought, if the feed for http was pulling in full body rather than summary, would that be a one liner or a box of nets?Feb 09 10:55
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Seems possible Korea will resume the old war before China dares invade Taiwan to "reassert" its territory. Things very dire in jealous North Korea, where even merely feeding the people is a growing challenge. Can become a regional war like Ukraine, with Japan+US joining in with arm supplies. Not looking good for world peace. Overpopulation pushes us over a brink.Feb 09 11:00
techrights-secIndeed.  The overpopulation also drives the climate collapse, some of the Feb 09 11:01
techrights-secworst charts overlay exactly with the overpopulation curves.Feb 09 11:01
schestowitz-pi2030: at least i am not in the trenchesFeb 09 11:04
schestowitz-pii dismissively look at 20 year olds that "invest" in a pensionFeb 09 11:04
schestowitz-pi47 years!Feb 09 11:04
schestowitz-piRobberies by under-15 year-old suspects on the rise ☞ https://yle.fi/a/74-20073636Feb 09 11:22
schestowitz-pigut feeling: a migrant generation growing upFeb 09 11:41
techrights-secYes, getting physically large enough to hold weapons.  Feb 09 11:42
techrights-secParts of Helsinki are very much not safe, not even a little, after hours.Feb 09 11:42
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schestowitz-piso people move out to suburbsFeb 09 11:43
schestowitz-piand you get more brussellsFeb 09 11:43
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Electric heaters sold on Fentanylware (TikTok) and Temu could explode, cause electric shocks or start a fire ☞ https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/electric-heaters-temu-tiktok-shop-a6c744h4OlclFeb 09 11:48
techrights-secYet again, Bytedance's Tiktok exposes itself as the psyops weapon it is.Feb 09 11:55
techrights-secNot a single one of the nine candidates raised the issue of deislamification Feb 09 11:56
techrights-secduring the debates or even outside of the debates.Feb 09 11:56
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 09/02/2024: Buzzwords, Hype, and Layoffs Still Dominate ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Buzzwords_Hype_and_Layoffs_Still_Dominate.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Buzzwords_Hype_and_Layoffs_Still_Dominate.gmi ∎Feb 09 12:24
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  GNU lightning 2.2.3 released! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/GNU_lightning_2_2_3_released.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/GNU_lightning_2_2_3_released.gmi ∎Feb 09 15:43
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  VirtualBox KVM public release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/VirtualBox_KVM_public_release.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/VirtualBox_KVM_public_release.gmi ∎Feb 09 15:48
techrights-sec Great ongoing work on EPO and the fight against sw patents!Feb 09 16:03
schestowitz-pisome of them move to FSFeb 09 16:04
schestowitz-pii am nearly done now with links (4PM FRIDAY!)Feb 09 16:04
schestowitz-pilots of time after this to research etcFeb 09 16:04
schestowitz-pirecent events show:Feb 09 16:08
schestowitz-piwe are "warm" (hurting MSFT etc.)Feb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pithere is no lack of methods attempted to gagFeb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pii will write about SN later, but i prefer to tackle technical issuesFeb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pinot mozilla ... "Wrong" time... let the people talkFeb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pionly 2 days ago i ranted about their awful leadership anywayFeb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pihow chomeos will soon be bigger than FFFeb 09 16:08
schestowitz-pidone (links). anyway, when things are demoralising at epo and microsoft target those who lower the morale by talking aboutFeb 09 16:21
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  β‡¨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.2.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/today_s_howtos.2.gmi ∎Feb 09 16:28
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techrights-newsTechrights – Links 09/02/2024: Further 'Enshittification' With Digital Restrictions (DRM) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Further_Enshittification_With_Digital_Restrict.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Further_Enshittification_With_Digital_Restrict.gmi ∎Feb 09 18:06
schestowitz-pii realise something about sn Feb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pithe trolls want "skulls"Feb 09 18:08
schestowitz-piand in irc sooner or later people walk awayFeb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pibecause they see the corpses at the lair's openingFeb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pihence no meetings Feb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pithen ridicule about a lack of meetingFeb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Links_09_02_2024_Further_Enshittification_With_Digital_Restrict.shtmlFeb 09 18:08
schestowitz-pitime for articles..Feb 09 18:08
techrights-secyepFeb 09 18:09
schestowitz-piand herein in think there is a _lesson_Feb 09 18:09
schestowitz-pihttps://archive.is/uomtMFeb 09 18:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Old 'Windows PCs' Are Becoming GNU/Linux PCs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Old_Windows_PCs_Are_Becoming_GNU_Linux_PCs.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/Old_Windows_PCs_Are_Becoming_GNU_Linux_PCs.gmi ∎Feb 09 18:40
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techrights-newsTechrights – Soylent News Demonstrates Success by Focusing on Key Technology and Science Issues ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Soylent_News_Demonstrates_Success_by_Focusing_on_Key_Technology.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Soylent_News_Demonstrates_Success_by_Focusing_on_Key_Technology.gmi ∎Feb 09 18:57
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Soylent_News_Demonstrates_Success_by_Focusing_on_Key_Technology.shtmlFeb 09 18:57
techrights-secBefore my time: https://www.salon.com/2024/02/09/the-beatles-ed-sullivan-show-60th-anniversary/Feb 09 19:02
schestowitz-pia\at least you could call them musicians back thenFeb 09 19:04
schestowitz-piyesterday we spent hours listening to contemporary top of the chart "music"Feb 09 19:04
schestowitz-piit was dreadfulFeb 09 19:04
schestowitz-pirianne could not believe me when i said this _were_ the TOP "tttyoooons" Feb 09 19:04
techrights-secSwift is very skilled at gaming the charts, plus independent musicians aren'tFeb 09 19:04
techrights-seceven on the list.  Feb 09 19:04
techrights-secThe record companies control what is allowed to be considered for contention.  Feb 09 19:04
schestowitz-pithey don't call it music, now it is "entertainment sector/industry"Feb 09 19:06
schestowitz-piThe Weakest Link   ->  "Big Brother", "Naked Attraction", pure crapFeb 09 19:06
schestowitz-pii gave my tv to a friend's mom in 2003Feb 09 19:06
techrights-sec Feb 09 19:22
techrights-secI more or less stopped watching the TV in the 1980s.  Though I did Feb 09 19:22
techrights-secwatch some early seasons of The Simpsons with some housemates becauseFeb 09 19:22
techrights-sec1) they were all watching, 2) the early seasons were actually good,Feb 09 19:22
techrights-sec3) and most importantly it was on just as I got home and finished dinnerFeb 09 19:22
techrights-secAlthough I don't watch I am concerned for the metaphors and behaviors taughtFeb 09 19:22
techrights-secvia repetition in the various programs: scamming, backstabbing, conniving,Feb 09 19:22
techrights-seclying, and brigading.  Feb 09 19:22
techrights-secPretty much all the heavily promoted prime time shows train youth forFeb 09 19:22
techrights-secthose values.  Feb 09 19:22
schestowitz-pias a kid i did many simpsons drawning and sketchesFeb 09 19:22
schestowitz-pii became very good at itFeb 09 19:22
techrights-secgnFeb 09 19:22
techrights-secafkFeb 09 19:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  We Love Animals as Much as We Love GNU/Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/We_Love_Animals_as_Much_as_We_Love_GNU_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/We_Love_Animals_as_Much_as_We_Love_GNU_Linux.gmi ∎Feb 09 19:27
schestowitz-pi<janrinok> well at least one person thinks that we are doing it rightFeb 09 19:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> hljFeb 09 19:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> sorry, typoFeb 09 19:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> you face tough terrainFeb 09 19:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> we had the sameFeb 09 19:38
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schestowitz-pi<janrinok> are you the owner of that site?Feb 09 19:46
schestowitz-pi<janrinok> if so, thank you for the thumbs up. It is appreciated.Feb 09 19:46
techrights-newsTechrights – Let's Get Rid of Software Patents in Europe and Elsewhere ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Let_s_Get_Rid_of_Software_Patents_in_Europe_and_Elsewhere.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Let_s_Get_Rid_of_Software_Patents_in_Europe_and_Elsewhere.gmi ∎Feb 09 20:17
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techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft Windows Falls to All-Time Low, Globally ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Microsoft_Windows_Falls_to_All_Time_Low_Globally.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/02/09/Microsoft_Windows_Falls_to_All_Time_Low_Globally.gmi ∎Feb 09 20:47
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW):  Desktop YouTube Music App Musictube Gets β€˜Major Overhaul’ ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/A_new_version_of_Musictube_a_Qt_based_desktop_app_that_lets_you.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/02/09/A_new_version_of_Musictube_a_Qt_based_desktop_app_that_lets_you.gmi ∎Feb 09 21:53
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