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techrights-newsTechrights – Mozilla Has Turned Firefox Into OSPS Consistent With "Attestation" Objectives ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/14/Mozilla_Has_Turned_Firefox_Into_OSPS_Consistent_With_Attestatio.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/14/Mozilla_Has_Turned_Firefox_Into_OSPS_Consistent_With_Attestatio.gmi ∎Apr 15 00:24
techrights-newsTechrights – Achieving Objectives ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/14/Achieving_Objectives.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/14/Achieving_Objectives.gmi ∎Apr 15 00:54
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techrights-newsTechrights – Oceania: GNU/Linux Measured at Lower Than the International Average (4% or 7% Including ChromeOS) ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/tr.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/tr.gmi ∎Apr 15 02:25
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techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Sunday, April 14, 2024 ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/IRC_Proceedings_Sunday_April_14_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/IRC_Proceedings_Sunday_April_14_2024.gmi ∎Apr 15 06:46
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Apr 15 06:47
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Apr 15 06:47
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schestowitz-pihttps://www.asomo.co/p/tech-doesnt-make-our-lives-easier Apr 15 07:31
schestowitz-pisouynds like 3 recent tr articlesApr 15 07:31
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Review: Fun projects with the Raspberry Pi and PinePhone ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Review_Fun_projects_with_the_Raspberry_Pi_and_PinePhone.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Review_Fun_projects_with_the_Raspberry_Pi_and_PinePhone.gmi ∎Apr 15 07:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Mastodon Tale ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Mastodon_Tale.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Mastodon_Tale.gmi ∎Apr 15 07:47
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  postmarketOS in 2024-04: Grant applications and again, more TCs! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/postmarketOS_in_2024_04.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/postmarketOS_in_2024_04.gmi ∎Apr 15 07:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Ubuntu – elegant and easy to use Linux distribution ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Ubuntu_elegant_and_easy_to_use_Linux_distribution.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Ubuntu_elegant_and_easy_to_use_Linux_distribution.gmi ∎Apr 15 07:58
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Qualcomm RB3 Gen 2 Platform with Qualcomm QCS6490 AI SoC targets robotics, IoT and embedded applications ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Qualcomm_RB3_Gen_2_Platform_with_Qualcomm_QCS6490_AI_SoC_target.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Qualcomm_RB3_Gen_2_Platform_with_Qualcomm_QCS6490_AI_SoC_target.gmi ∎Apr 15 08:12
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Blanket Ambient Sounds App for Linux Gets Calming New Look ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Blanket_Ambient_Sounds_App_for_Linux_Gets_Calming_New_Look.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Blanket_Ambient_Sounds_App_for_Linux_Gets_Calming_New_Look.gmi ∎Apr 15 08:18
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Ardour 8.6 DAW Targets Stability with Critical Bug Fixes ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Ardour_8_6_DAW_Targets_Stability_with_Critical_Bug_Fixes.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Ardour_8_6_DAW_Targets_Stability_with_Critical_Bug_Fixes.gmi ∎Apr 15 08:30
techrights-sec2m$ GitHub :/Apr 15 08:46
techrights-sec2https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=171316036320186&w=2Apr 15 08:46
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techrights-sec2 08:05:29 DaemonFC; And they set up offices in the Apr 15 09:33
techrights-sec2 part of the government meant to deal with Islamic Apr 15 09:33
techrights-sec2 terrorists to go looking for people who say COVID shot Apr 15 09:33
techrights-sec2 hurt them. Apr 15 09:33
techrights-sec2^ resulting in actual reduced defence capabilitiesApr 15 09:33
schestowitz-piat this very moment we still listen to Apr 15 09:34
schestowitz-pihttps://schestowitz.com/Weblog/archives/2024/04/14/cancer-mortality-mrna-lipid-nanoparticle-vaccine/Apr 15 09:34
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Arch Linux Installer Archinstall 2.8 Increase ESP Size to 1 GiB, Fixes More Bugs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Arch_Linux_Installer_Archinstall_2_8_Increase_ESP_Size_to_1_GiB.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Arch_Linux_Installer_Archinstall_2_8_Increase_ESP_Size_to_1_GiB.gmi ∎Apr 15 10:10
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schestowitz-pi<Sompi> http://sininenankka.dy.fi/kuvauppi/upload/f6t1m.jpg this is the original post that Facebook flagged "fake news" and "scam"Apr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> :-)Apr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> it is "scam"Apr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<Sompi> Seems that if you write a Facebook post that says that banks don't actually have all that money that people have "deposited" in their accounts, Facebook flags it as "scam" and removes itApr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> "The legislation approved Friday would extend the surveillance program for two years" ☛ https://www.securityweek.com/house-passes-reauthorization-of-key-us-surveillance-program-after-days-of-upheaval-over-changes/ | Source: Security WeekApr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- House Passes Reauthorization of Key US Surveillance Program After Days of Upheaval Over Changes - SecurityWeekApr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> Sompi: in finnish?Apr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<Sompi> yesApr 15 10:44
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> Sompi: many scammers start this wayApr 15 10:44
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  9to5Linux Weekly Roundup: April 14th, 2024 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_April_14th_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/9to5Linux_Weekly_Roundup_April_14th_2024.gmi ∎Apr 15 11:04
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techrights-sec2see /tmp/tm-copy-title-url.xpi hereApr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2I'm not sure how to make the menus unnested though Apr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2I still need to find how to split out the one function into a separate fileApr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2^ for TM, should save some stepsApr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2The server has a new kernel: Setting up linux-image-amd64 (6.1.85-1) ...Apr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2A maintenance reboot is needed, since this is the second new kernel Apr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2and there have been no reboots for that one either.  Apr 15 11:45
techrights-sec2Which day + time?Apr 15 11:45
schestowitz-pinice, i guess both extensions can be loaded, two "birds"Apr 15 11:47
schestowitz-pii will have that tested laterApr 15 11:47
schestowitz-pireboots are best around sunday nightsApr 15 11:47
schestowitz-pimostyly due to irc disruptionApr 15 11:47
schestowitz-pialso good to make complete backup before the patchingApr 15 11:47
schestowitz-pi/tmp/tm-copy-title-url.xpi works okApr 15 12:02
schestowitz-pia 2-in-1Apr 15 12:02
techrights-sec2I have daily backps of the data/databasesApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2What time on Sunday is good?Apr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2We can set an at job to call shutdown in advanceApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2shutdown can only handle a < 24 hr lead time, so at is needed to prepareApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2a shutdown on sunday nowApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2the TM extension is a superset of the TR one, at the momentApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2It will be very important to figure out how to include a functionApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2from a second file, otherwise it will be too inconvenient to track twoApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2code basesApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2Separate profiles can be used if the extensions need to be loaded at the sameApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2timeApr 15 12:04
techrights-sec2back in a few hoursApr 15 12:04
schestowitz-piif you have a full backup, then we can do the reboot later todayApr 15 12:04
techrights-newsTechrights – Gemini Links 15/04/2024: Profectus Alpha 0.4 and RPG of One Capsule Progress ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Gemini_Links_15_04_2024_Profectus_Alpha_0_4_and_RPG_of_One_Caps.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Gemini_Links_15_04_2024_Profectus_Alpha_0_4_and_RPG_of_One_Caps.gmi ∎Apr 15 12:08
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos  ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Apr 15 12:10
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  ] ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Games_Wordle_DOOM_and_ScummVM.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Games_Wordle_DOOM_and_ScummVM.gmi ∎Apr 15 12:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Windows TCO Stories ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Windows_TCO_Stories.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Windows_TCO_Stories.gmi ∎Apr 15 12:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Kate on all Platforms - 2024 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Kate_on_all_Platforms_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Kate_on_all_Platforms_2024.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:11
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Ubuntu 24.04 LTS Beta Release Postponed Due to Security Concerns ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/03/Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_Beta_Release_Postponed_Due_to_Security_Concern.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/03/Ubuntu_24_04_LTS_Beta_Release_Postponed_Due_to_Security_Concern.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:21
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Linux 6.9-rc4 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Linux_6_9_rc4.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Linux_6_9_rc4.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:21
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Open Hardware: Arduino, ESP32, and HealthyPi ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Open_Hardware_Arduino_ESP32_and_HealthyPi.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Open_Hardware_Arduino_ESP32_and_HealthyPi.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:26
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:36
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Audirvāna announces a Linux beta program - Alpha Audio ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Audirvana_announces_a_Linux_beta_program_Alpha_Audio.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Audirvana_announces_a_Linux_beta_program_Alpha_Audio.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:39
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Sparky CLI Installer Introduces Autopartitioning in the Latest Update ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Sparky_CLI_Installer_Introduces_Autopartitioning_in_the_Latest_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Sparky_CLI_Installer_Introduces_Autopartitioning_in_the_Latest_.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:39
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:56
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Apr 15 13:57
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Browsers, BSD, KDE, and Debian ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Browsers_BSD_KDE_and_Debian.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Browsers_BSD_KDE_and_Debian.gmi ∎Apr 15 14:01
techrights-newsTechrights – Links 15/04/2024: Signs of Desperation at Microsoft and Tesco Employees Brace for Mass Layoffs ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Links_15_04_2024_Signs_of_Desperation_at_Microsoft_and_Tesco_Em.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Links_15_04_2024_Signs_of_Desperation_at_Microsoft_and_Tesco_Em.gmi ∎Apr 15 14:03
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schestowitz-pirianne just saw the "Read More" extension and says it is goodApr 15 14:12
schestowitz-pishe is just about head off till 9pmApr 15 14:13
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Mozilla Firefox 125 Is Now Available for Download, This Is What’s New ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Mozilla_Firefox_125_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_What_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/Mozilla_Firefox_125_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_This_Is_What_.gmi ∎Apr 15 14:14
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  New Updates in PCLinuxOS ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/New_Updates_in_PCLinuxOS.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/04/15/New_Updates_in_PCLinuxOS.gmi ∎Apr 15 14:31
techrights-newsTechrights – Matthias Kirschner & FSFE People Trafficking, coercion of volunteers ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Matthias_Kirschner_FSFE_People_Trafficking_coercion_of_voluntee.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Matthias_Kirschner_FSFE_People_Trafficking_coercion_of_voluntee.gmi ∎Apr 15 14:56
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schestowitz-pii spoke to DissentApr 15 15:30
schestowitz-piseems like Databreaches might finally be dumping wordpressApr 15 15:30
schestowitz-piafter the attack on the siteApr 15 15:30
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techrights-newsTechrights – Upcoming Themes and Articles in Techrights ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Upcoming_Themes_and_Articles_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Upcoming_Themes_and_Articles_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Apr 15 16:13
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techrights-newsTechrights – [Teaser] Freenode LTD: What Happened ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Teaser_Freenode_LTD_What_Happened.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Teaser_Freenode_LTD_What_Happened.gmi ∎Apr 15 16:31
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techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] Quantity of European Patents ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Meme_Quantity_of_European_Patents.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Meme_Quantity_of_European_Patents.gmi ∎Apr 15 17:13
techrights-sec2backApr 15 17:15
techrights-sec2should we reboot tonight or during the quiet part of the morning tomorrow?Apr 15 17:15
techrights-sec2more or lessApr 15 17:15
techrights-sec25 minute count down just to be sureApr 15 17:15
schestowitz-piirc is calm nowApr 15 17:16
schestowitz-pilet's do it fast if you are all setApr 15 17:16
schestowitz-pii think i wrote down how to bring back irc, but have nopt practiced that Apr 15 17:16
schestowitz-pimaybe it is even automated, not sure, i doubt itApr 15 17:17
schestowitz-pigo for it Apr 15 17:17
schestowitz-piokApr 15 17:17
schestowitz-pihistory probably has itApr 15 17:17
schestowitz-piand i thinkl you send me the command, i just didn't test itApr 15 17:17
schestowitz-pino worries, we'll manageApr 15 17:17
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schestowitz-pitransparency to follow here shortlyApr 15 17:47
schestowitz-piit has rebootedApr 15 17:48
schestowitz-pii am updating my notesApr 15 17:48
schestowitz-pithis is the first time with THIS ergo version!Apr 15 17:48
piI can't recall the process for bringing ircd back up Apr 15 17:49
pibut there should be notes somewhereApr 15 17:49
pithe bots should be back automatically due to Unit filesApr 15 17:49
piYes, I sent it at some pointApr 15 17:49
piergo run --confg ~ircd/configitc.techrihgts.org.yaml &Apr 15 17:49
pias "ircd" not rootApr 15 17:49
*pi is now known as techrightssecApr 15 17:49
schestowitz-pi2024/04/15 16:22:10 Config file did not load successfully: open /home/ircd/config/irc.techrights.org.yaml: permission deniedApr 15 17:50
schestowitz-pias ircdApr 15 17:50
schestowitz-piupdating my todo notes for downtimes/reboots/outage etc, they are very outdatedApr 15 17:50
schestowitz-piit works no1Apr 15 17:50
schestowitz-piw!Apr 15 17:50
schestowitz-piircApr 15 17:50
schestowitz-pibravoApr 15 17:50
schestowitz-pinew ergo, tooApr 15 17:50
techrightssec/usr/local/sbin/ergo-2.13.0-linux-x86_64/ergo run --conf=/home/ircd/config/irc.techrights.org.yamlApr 15 17:51
techrightssecThat *should* work but there is an AppArmor profile there which might Apr 15 17:51
techrightssechave to be turned off if it doesn't work.  Apr 15 17:51
techrightssecAgain, run as "ircd" and not rootApr 15 17:51
techrightssecrebooting now, it saysApr 15 17:51
techrightssecwebsites and ssh okApr 15 17:51
techrightssecgemini ok for TM and  TRApr 15 17:51
schestowitz-piyou brought it back down?Apr 15 17:51
schestowitz-pii cannot connectApr 15 17:51
schestowitz-piit just hangs, Connected. Now logging in..   no progressApr 15 17:51
schestowitz-pifirewall rules, open ports, per process type/name/version (there are two ports for irc, one used to be wrongly blocked after you had changed somethingApr 15 17:51
schestowitz-pithat i cannot remember...) two ports Apr 15 17:51
schestowitz-pino cigar, maybe logs offer a clue? seems like it routes ok but makes no progress getting packets backApr 15 17:51
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psydruidare we back yet?Apr 15 17:51
schestowitz-piyesApr 15 17:52
schestowitz-piposting some info hereApr 15 17:52
schestowitz-piwill follow up with summaryApr 15 17:52
techrightsseccan you check IRC please?Apr 15 17:52
techrightssecyes and back up, testing required that, it should be back up now with 2.13.0Apr 15 17:52
techrightssecnow Apr 15 17:52
techrightssec# ps -p 2413 -o user,argsApr 15 17:52
techrightssecUSER     COMMANDApr 15 17:52
techrightssecircd     /usr/local/sbin/ergo-2.13.0-linux-x86_64/ergo run --conf=/home/ircd/config/irc.techrights.org.yamlApr 15 17:52
techrightssecok bringing it down againApr 15 17:52
techrightssecnow?Apr 15 17:52
techrightssecchecking logsApr 15 17:52
schestowitz-piconn reset by peer moments agoApr 15 17:54
schestowitz-pioh!!!Apr 15 17:54
schestowitz-pihere we go!!!Apr 15 17:54
schestowitz-piok, maybe delay the upgrade till next kernel update :-)Apr 15 17:54
schestowitz-pi(ergo upgrade)Apr 15 17:54
techrightssecNFT has no filter rules, so no FW in the wayApr 15 17:54
techrightssecbots seem connectedApr 15 17:54
techrightssecloading the old 2.12 ....Apr 15 17:54
techrightssecyep more testing neededApr 15 17:54
techrightssecgot some log info about ergoApr 15 17:54
techrightssecthe config file has not changedApr 15 17:54
techrightssec~ircd/ is in the backupApr 15 17:54
techrightssecwe're back to 2.12 not using 2.13Apr 15 17:54
techrightssecok bringing it down, loading backupApr 15 17:54
schestowitz-piwe chose excellent time fof testing, news is slow so farApr 15 17:55
schestowitz-piwait, i think the config file does not work nowApr 15 17:55
schestowitz-pithe userlist etc.Apr 15 17:55
schestowitz-pido you have it in backup?Apr 15 17:55
schestowitz-piiirc, it's a yaml fileApr 15 17:55
schestowitz-pialsom MOTD is not showingApr 15 17:55
schestowitz-piso something changed after doing the "upgrade" on liveApr 15 17:55
schestowitz-pican we revert back to the dir before the change?Apr 15 17:55
techrightssecwhat about now?Apr 15 17:55
techrightssecI've uploaded from the backupApr 15 17:55
techrightssec:)Apr 15 17:55
schestowitz-pidid you run the ircd process with the right path to the right config file? (just asking to be sure)Apr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piit's like we run on void nowApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-pithe key thing is to ensure we run with the latest settings, else it's chaos moderation-wiseApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piMOTD showing that's a good sign!Apr 15 17:56
schestowitz-pii can log in okApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-pigood we had backup :) better safe than sorryApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piat least we have some info on the new version nowApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piwe lacked this beforeApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-pibiab, todo of ~10 tasks nowApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piwill share them with you after polishingApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-piin case i get hospitalised or something some dayApr 15 17:56
schestowitz-pipsydruid: Apr 15 17:58
schestowitz-pisummary:Apr 15 17:58
schestowitz-pia) the new version of ergo might not be a 'drop-in' upgrade that just picks up the config files ok, needs better testingApr 15 17:58
schestowitz-pib) services come back up with the serverApr 15 17:58
schestowitz-pic) i need to make proper documentation of my side of thingsApr 15 17:58
schestowitz-pid) backups before reboots/upgrade experiments very importantApr 15 17:58
techrightssecThe permissions for the motd were a little odd, so that was one thingApr 15 18:02
techrightssecthrowing off AppArmor and thus (perhaps) ergo Apr 15 18:02
techrightssecI've adjusted that a little now, but won't test until some undeterminedApr 15 18:02
techrightssecfuture dateApr 15 18:02
schestowitz-pithanksApr 15 18:03
schestowitz-pithat's good!Apr 15 18:03
schestowitz-piseems plausible that it coughed at some step and thus overrode the whole config file, which is another fileApr 15 18:03
schestowitz-pias a kind of fallbackApr 15 18:03
schestowitz-piso maybe we were just a centi, not a mile, "off'Apr 15 18:03
techrightssecAppArmor is also not mentioning how to allow signals...Apr 15 18:03
techrightssecMaybe even just a few mm offApr 15 18:03
schestowitz-pifrom my end it looked like something blocked communication with the ircdApr 15 18:04
schestowitz-piat the network/os levelApr 15 18:04
schestowitz-pibut you said the local bots could open a socket okApr 15 18:04
techrightssecThe networking is all-or-nothing in AA even after all these yearsApr 15 18:05
techrightssecIt does not even distinguish between TCP and UDPApr 15 18:05
techrightssecor port numberApr 15 18:05
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schestowitz-piirc is a _lot_ of workApr 15 18:13
schestowitz-pibut a lot of work gets done in itApr 15 18:13
schestowitz-piprivately _and_ publiclyApr 15 18:13
schestowitz-piit is our principal collab/comms toolApr 15 18:13
schestowitz-pii pity those who outsouce to shit ("slack") or discoird (Samba project :/ )Apr 15 18:13
techrightssecI think the AA profile is now adjusted to account for the latest roundApr 15 18:13
techrightssecof errors.  We can try it next time, but no hurry.  Maybe for 2.14 ;)Apr 15 18:13
techrightssecMore projects are failing and falling to systemd, eg LFSApr 15 18:13
schestowitz-piACKApr 15 18:14
schestowitz-pibiab, too much in todo still left Apr 15 18:14
schestowitz-piit's why reboots are dreadful when i hear that wordApr 15 18:14
techrightssecdone for the day here in about an hour ...Apr 15 18:14
schestowitz-piwe have nice stories coming soonApr 15 18:15
schestowitz-pihealth first!Apr 15 18:15
schestowitz-pii tipped daniel abou8t writing more of what pisses off his hatersApr 15 18:15
schestowitz-pii am working on a thing like that now, did that while we rebootedApr 15 18:16
techrightssecExcellentApr 15 18:16
schestowitz-pii kind og dread what the people we expose have up teir sleeve nextApr 15 18:16
schestowitz-piso i keep my life very private for nowApr 15 18:16
schestowitz-pii have evidence they spy on relativesApr 15 18:17
techrightssec:/Apr 15 18:18
techrightssecYesApr 15 18:18
techrightssecM$ are scum, at their best ...Apr 15 18:18
schestowitz-piit is an attack surface thingApr 15 18:19
schestowitz-pithey look for other vulns Apr 15 18:19
schestowitz-pithey underestimated our pocketsApr 15 18:19
techrightssecJoining NATO should mean countries ditch M$ because of the enormousApr 15 18:20
techrightssecattack surface the products expose Apr 15 18:20
schestowitz-pinato mentions odfApr 15 18:20
schestowitz-pithat's bettert than the _average_Apr 15 18:20
techrightssecYes, they are aware of the problem.  The problem is getting movement. Apr 15 18:21
schestowitz-pitakes timeApr 15 18:21
schestowitz-pimsft was in "the news" again for trying to sell hey hi to the armyApr 15 18:21
schestowitz-piwe saw some Apr 15 18:21
schestowitz-pidiscussed in ircApr 15 18:21
techrightssecM$ does not care that the products don't work, the top brass don't eitherApr 15 18:23
techrightssecbut further down they do as it is a matter of life or deathApr 15 18:23
schestowitz-pipopst-reboot tasks completed (i think)Apr 15 18:26
schestowitz-piback to links and articles nowApr 15 18:26
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schestowitz-pibtw, thanks for the good job on ergo and debianApr 15 18:32
schestowitz-piso far i am happy with the webhost, they stay out of the wayApr 15 18:32
schestowitz-pi(as should be)Apr 15 18:32
techrightssecnp, sorry the 2.13 profile is not readyApr 15 18:32
techrightsseceverything else comes up automatically Apr 15 18:32
schestowitz-pia lot of the post-reboot work is not unix/linuxApr 15 18:33
schestowitz-pibut irc and site relatedApr 15 18:33
schestowitz-piops and all, to keep things tidyApr 15 18:33
schestowitz-piplus testingApr 15 18:33
techrightssecslowly going through the AA logs, it seems that ergo sends a lot of signalsApr 15 18:33
techrightssecto itself during startup, and those were getting blockedApr 15 18:33
schestowitz-piwe used to have 6 servers to patch: ergo, db, tm-new, tm-old, tr-old and newApr 15 18:41
schestowitz-pithe cargo cults loves containersApr 15 18:41
schestowitz-pithey have adventages, but also a cost...Apr 15 18:41
techrightssecLots of overhead in 'containers' both technical and administrativeApr 15 18:42
techrightssecI remain unconvinced of the advantages of containers aside from FreeBSD jailsApr 15 18:42
schestowitz-pijails are more like sofwtare tools for containtment that predate containerApr 15 18:43
schestowitz-pii used some in 2011 at siriusApr 15 18:44
schestowitz-pito work on some mail daemon, cyrusApr 15 18:44
techrightssecYes, and very much simpler, more secure, and more reliable. Apr 15 18:44
schestowitz-pinow they tell us containers/dockers are "old"Apr 15 18:45
schestowitz-pilxd is incusApr 15 18:45
schestowitz-piand kube is all "the rage"Apr 15 18:45
schestowitz-piyes, rage!Apr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pimakes you mad learning yet ANOTHER interfaceApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-piabstraction for the abstraction of the abstractiApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pinhave lots of fun!Apr 15 18:46
schestowitz-piand f offApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pinot limited to containers btwApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-piwrappers on wrappers and wrapperApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pisyou lose track fastApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-piand then forget how to deb ug and fix thingsApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pidue to just memorising "tools" that are abstraction layerApr 15 18:46
schestowitz-pihappe4ns a lot in js, npm, etc.Apr 15 18:46
techrightssecAnd yet another layer of system abstraction for more CPU overhead andApr 15 18:46
techrightsseclatencyApr 15 18:46
techrightssecWorse, they just wrap up the container with gzip and publish that instead ofApr 15 18:46
techrightsseca packaged application.  Apr 15 18:46
schestowitz-piapropos, check the size of VERY simple "apps" in 2024Apr 15 18:48
schestowitz-pifdor phonesApr 15 18:48
schestowitz-piMAD!Apr 15 18:48
techrightssechttps://www.androidauthority.com/how-much-ram-do-i-need-phone-3086661/Apr 15 18:48
techrightssec:/Apr 15 18:48
techrightssec4GB RAM -- in a f-ing phone Apr 15 18:48
schestowitz-pi50MB is normal [sic] for a simple "app"Apr 15 18:49
schestowitz-pipalmos 'apps' are about 50kbApr 15 18:49
psydruidthere will be a time when it will all come crashing downApr 15 18:53
techrights-newsTechrights – Microsoft Windows Falling to New Lows in the United Kingdom and Worldwide ⇨ http://news.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Microsoft_Windows_Falling_to_New_Lows_in_the_United_Kingdom_and.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Microsoft_Windows_Falling_to_New_Lows_in_the_United_Kingdom_and.gmi ∎Apr 15 18:54
techrightssec$ grep -c headlines.flac /var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log.1 /var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log; date +"^ %H:%M %Z"Apr 15 18:54
techrightssec/var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log.1:40Apr 15 18:54
techrightssec/var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log:38Apr 15 18:54
schestowitz-pipsydruid: like us:Apr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pi1) bye byeApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pidrupalApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piwordpressApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piwikisApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pi2) bye to containersApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pibye to VMsApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piback to VPSApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piand all on the same machineApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pione OS to patchApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-pimuch easier to back up etcApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piback to basicsApr 15 18:55
techrightssec/var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log.1:40Apr 15 18:55
techrightssec/var/log/apache2/techrights-access.log:38Apr 15 18:55
techrightssecThat is one of the ideas behind it, aside from that I find it amusingApr 15 18:55
schestowitz-piit cmight spread by word of mouth or HAM   Apr 15 18:56
schestowitz-piover time, one can hopeApr 15 18:56
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/n/2024/04/15/Microsoft_Windows_Falling_to_New_Lows_in_the_United_Kingdom_and.shtmlApr 15 18:57
schestowitz-pithis really annoys the right peopleApr 15 18:57
psydruidall the more reason to post more of it and get it shared as widely as possibleApr 15 18:57
schestowitz-pipsydruid: my advice is,Apr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pito self at leastApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-piand to rianneApr 15 18:58
psydruidthe default is changing to free software and you can see the loud complaints everywhereApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pistick to basicsApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pishe stufdied containersApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pinevver used the knowledgeApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pilost itApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pido bashApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-piand similar low level stuffApr 15 18:58
schestowitz-pithat will always remain of useApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-pipython maybeApr 15 18:59
psydruidI do only low-level stuffApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-piqt is high levelApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-piand it keeps changingApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-piyou must adapt all the timeApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-pior lose itApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-pii did gtk too and forgot the interfacesApr 15 18:59
psydruidpeople don't realise how much all the stuff on top changes all the timeApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-piyou can only memorise them as long as you work on gtk projectsApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-piirc is low levelApr 15 18:59
schestowitz-pithe clients are simpleApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-pithey are gui for simple input/outputApr 15 19:00
psydruidI just wanted to learn to write GUI applications in the here and nowApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-pilike in the log filesApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-pilook intoApr 15 19:00
psydruidI've never done so on GNU/Linux beforeApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-pi"dialog"Apr 15 19:00
schestowitz-piin debian and similarApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-piRHEL clones have it tooApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-piexampleApr 15 19:00
schestowitz-piroy@vonick:~$ cat menu.sh Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi#!/bin/bashApr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piHEIGHT=15Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piWIDTH=40Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piCHOICE_HEIGHT=4Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piBACKTITLE="Aloha, Roy"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piTITLE="Roy @ Ted"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piMENU="Choose one of the following options:"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piOPTIONS=(1 "Daily Links"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi         2 "Timeline"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi         3 "RRRRR"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi        4 "Get links"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi        5 "Text upload (TXT)"Apr 15 19:01
psydruidmy only other experiences with GUIs were in Java and some Windows things a long time agoApr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi        6 "IRC"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi        7 "Konq"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi)Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piCHOICE=$(dialog --clear \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                --backtitle "$BACKTITLE" \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                --title "$TITLE" \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                --menu "$MENU" \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                $HEIGHT $WIDTH $CHOICE_HEIGHT \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                "${OPTIONS[@]}" \Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi                2>&1 >/dev/tty)Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-piclearApr 15 19:01
schestowitz-picase $CHOICE inApr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi        1)Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pi            echo "You chose Option 1"Apr 15 19:01
schestowitz-pish ~/finalise-daily-links.sh  ;;Apr 15 19:01
techrightssecIt's also very important that word of the decline of their market share isApr 15 19:10
techrightssecpublished and becomes widely known.  Apr 15 19:10
schestowitz-piwindows is now "sour grapes"Apr 15 19:10
schestowitz-piHEY HI is... well, everything, since the clown (Azure) cannot growApr 15 19:10
techrightssecafkApr 15 19:10
techrightssecgnApr 15 19:10
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psydruidand that targetting windows (exclusively) is now a negative rather than a positive thing, as you're only hastening your own obsolescence by focusing on obsolete technologiesApr 15 19:12
psydruidcalling windows a burning platform sends them into overdriveApr 15 19:13
schestowitz-pielop used that termApr 15 19:24
schestowitz-pihe referred to LinuxApr 15 19:24
schestowitz-pi13+ years have passedApr 15 19:24
schestowitz-piwe cna see what burnedApr 15 19:24
schestowitz-piand what did notApr 15 19:24
psydruidit was nothing more than wishful thinking on his partApr 15 19:48
psydruidand then he elopedApr 15 19:48
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