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techrights-newsMicrosoft is Stacking a Closed Door Panel in Washington (Commissioned by a Microsoft-Sponsored Senator), Pushing Its Products Using Buzzwords and Getting More Bailouts From the US Government, i.e. From Taxpayers | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/microsoft-is-stacking-panels/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/microsoft-is-stacking-panels/Sep 15 00:22
techrights-newsGemini Links 14/09/2023: Learning LaTeX and Using Slackware | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/using-slackware/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/using-slackware/Sep 15 00:35
techrights-news"Things have actually gotten so bad that COVID is a good distraction again from all of the hyperinflation, Biden sundowning, his criminal son in trouble, China running roughshod over us and the Biden administration" https://baronhk.wordpress.com/2023/09/14/landlords-in-california-throw-party-to-celebrate-evicting-tenants-while-npr-helps-us-government-scream-look-aliens/Sep 15 00:37
techrights-newsGemini Links 14/09/2023: Learning LaTeX and Using Slackware | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/using-slackware/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/using-slackware/Sep 15 00:37
techrights-newsJudge in Google Case Doesn’t Know if Firefox is a Browser or Search Engine | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/browser-or-search-engine/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/browser-or-search-engine/Sep 15 00:58
techrights-newsThe Web Browser We Lost (Not Just the Web We Lost) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/the-web-browser-we-lost/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/the-web-browser-we-lost/Sep 15 01:54
techrights-newshttp://techrights.org/2023/09/14/clown-computing-is-a-joke/Sep 15 02:23
techrights-newsApple Re-Releasing the Same Products Every Year | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/14/apple-churning-hype/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/14/apple-churning-hype/Sep 15 02:55
techrights-[sec]hazy memories not good quotes, ">November of 1993 (I think)<" Sep 15 03:00
techrights-[sec]ot wouild have been faster to look that up than to format it for quoting :/Sep 15 03:00
techrights-[sec]Important topic otherwise. Sep 15 03:00
schestowitz-piyes, did the text in a rushSep 15 03:01
schestowitz-pito finish all the videos byt bulletin cutoffSep 15 03:01
schestowitz-piwhich i moved forward by 10 minutes last monthSep 15 03:01
schestowitz-piso I can redact abuse, where that became compulsorySep 15 03:01
techrights-[sec]haste makes waste better to let it roll over to the next day and do aSep 15 03:02
techrights-[sec]quality job on that partSep 15 03:02
techrights-[sec]anyway, otherwise three good articles including ryan'sSep 15 03:02
schestowitz-pii am planning to grow back the hairSep 15 03:03
schestowitz-piBUTSep 15 03:03
schestowitz-pigoing back to military cut was practicalSep 15 03:03
schestowitz-pisaves a lot of timeSep 15 03:03
techrights-[sec]yes short is effient except for the cutting time / costsSep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec]"You have a lot of experience arguing with outsourcers which can be drawn into an article." I had hoped thatSep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec] would not be a quote but encouragement to drawSep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec]upon events from recent years at your former work place.  Sep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec]Quoting private conversations is harmful.Sep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec]Again, better to let the articles roll over to the nex day's bulletin cutoffSep 15 03:06
techrights-[sec]than to take harmful shortcuts or mistakes Sep 15 03:06
schestowitz-piyes, my badSep 15 03:08
schestowitz-pii just tossed the "notes" for recording togetherSep 15 03:08
schestowitz-piand looking at the clockSep 15 03:08
schestowitz-pii think i will work on rss stuff tonightSep 15 03:08
schestowitz-piit's a real struggle to find topicsSep 15 03:08
schestowitz-pizero input, zero outputSep 15 03:08
techrights-[sec]s/three/five/Sep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]When quotes from private conversations go into notes, they should be annotatedSep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]so that the are not used as quotes but instead used as refefence points toSep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]either look things up or expand on an idea, pleaseSep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]Ryan's article doesn't back up the title, I was hoping to read about Sep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]what the judge said to demonstrate such ignorance.  The post is good otherwiseSep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]but the title teases something not delivered by the content as far as I canSep 15 03:09
techrights-[sec]tell by skimmingSep 15 03:10
schestowitz-pimy guess is, DaemonFC writes the titles before finishing the writing bingeSep 15 03:10
techrights-[sec]If he has such information then another article should use it, that is importantSep 15 03:11
techrights-[sec]to know.  Maybe Google/M$ have shopped around to find the "right" judge toSep 15 03:11
techrights-[sec]review the case. Sep 15 03:11
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/2023/07/12/microsoft-has-bought-the-district-courts-too-the-case-or-the-example-of-jacqueline-scott-corley/Sep 15 03:11
DaemonFChttps://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/09/judge-in-us-v-google-trial-didnt-know-if-firefox-is-a-browser-or-search-engine/Sep 15 03:12
DaemonFCIt links to this.Sep 15 03:12
schestowitz-pithanksSep 15 03:12
DaemonFC"While Cavanaugh delivered his opening statement, Mehta even appeared briefly confused by some of the references to today's tech, unable to keep straight if Mozilla was a browser or a search engine."Sep 15 03:12
schestowitz-piTM gemini had 130 UIPs since last log rotationSep 15 03:13
schestowitz-piso it's still improvingSep 15 03:13
DaemonFCI'm generally opposed to anti-trust cases.Sep 15 03:13
DaemonFCMicrosoft becoming too powerful was a result of busting up the phone company, which re-assembled itself again anyway.Sep 15 03:14
schestowitz-pithe system is now workingSep 15 03:14
DaemonFCThen the government fumbled Microsoft.Sep 15 03:14
schestowitz-piand then they try to claim the regime will fix itSep 15 03:14
DaemonFCThen Microsoft's own incompetence led to Google getting big.Sep 15 03:14
schestowitz-pirather than design something that works from the get-goSep 15 03:14
schestowitz-pito benefit the population at largeSep 15 03:14
DaemonFCNow they want the government to stop Google because it will prop Microsoft up.Sep 15 03:14
DaemonFCIt's difficult to say how not busting up AT&T would have played out. It's plausible that those AT&T UNIX PCs with X11 would have become really popular, leading to price decreases.Sep 15 03:15
techrights-[sec]That article would have been good to quote there.  Sep 15 03:15
DaemonFCThe government waits until all the damage is done and then tries to go after the company for getting too big.Sep 15 03:16
DaemonFCThis judge may just honestly not know anti-trust laws, or how they might apply to the Google case.Sep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pii quoted https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/09/12/1228227#1324447Sep 15 03:17
DaemonFCWhich suggests the trial will miss the important issues and regulate the wrong parts of Google, which are a natural monopoly, not the parts that are now being put in to ensure that it remains a monopoly.Sep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pianyway, it's hard enough writing at allSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pigiven the lack of topicsSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-piand qualuty sources to citeSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-piall the coverage of the HEY HI lobby wasSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pi"musk says"Sep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pi".... says musk"Sep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pi"blah blah buzzwords..."Sep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pino real reportingSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-piit's terribleSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pijust throw in some photo, write some unoriginal crapSep 15 03:17
schestowitz-pior repost thompson (reuters) in 100+ domainsSep 15 03:17
DaemonFCThe Apple anti-trust case was a disaster too.Sep 15 03:18
DaemonFCIt didn't change much and they walked out of it with a court affirming that they CAN use the App Store to attack users and developers.Sep 15 03:18
schestowitz-piyesSep 15 03:21
schestowitz-piwas it antitrust per se?Sep 15 03:21
schestowitz-piit was a lawsuitSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pitechrights-[sec]: Sep 15 03:22
schestowitz-piso TM is no longer a site per seSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pibut something out there on the Net, not WebSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pimanaged over sshSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pinot some webUISep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pimost of it is not original, so tossing that at ipfs would not accomplish much at this pointSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pimaking a plain text edition of tm, based on the DB, would be super simpleSep 15 03:22
schestowitz-pior bulletinSep 15 03:22
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_AppWrapperSep 15 03:31
DaemonFCI added a proposal for deletion.Sep 15 03:31
DaemonFCIt is proposed that this article be deleted because of the following concern:Sep 15 03:31
DaemonFC    Original research, essay-like, lack of reliable sources and citations. Full of hyperbole and opinion. Needs to be completely re-written, but no apparent attempt to improve this in over 8 years. (proposed by Daemonfc)Sep 15 03:31
techrights-[sec]Yes, the site is basicall in the sqlit3 databaseSep 15 03:31
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: wikipedia is trashSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-piit got a lot worseSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-piover the past 10 or so yearsSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-pithe good articles had maturedSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-piand then lots of manure was added to the siteSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-pito ride the "brand"Sep 15 03:32
DaemonFCCrap cleanup.Sep 15 03:32
DaemonFC:PSep 15 03:32
schestowitz-pithere is a shadow economySep 15 03:33
schestowitz-pilike fake "likes" or "subs" in social control mediaSep 15 03:33
schestowitz-pispamnil has like 95% or more botclicksSep 15 03:33
schestowitz-piso he can sell "services" based on liesSep 15 03:33
schestowitz-pithere are PR firms for wikipediaSep 15 03:34
schestowitz-pimicrosoft has that in-houseSep 15 03:34
schestowitz-pisortr ofSep 15 03:34
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/wiki/Waggener_EdstromSep 15 03:34
schestowitz-pihttps://www.youtube.com/c/TFiRio/videosSep 15 03:35
schestowitz-pi18 views in one weekSep 15 03:35
schestowitz-piwait another week... 1000+Sep 15 03:36
schestowitz-pibecause of the spambotsSep 15 03:36
DaemonFCDead Internet Theory.Sep 15 03:36
DaemonFCThe Web died a long time ago and most activity is now bots.Sep 15 03:36
schestowitz-piyes, i heard thatSep 15 03:37
schestowitz-pilet me tell you somethingSep 15 03:37
DaemonFCThe only actual human activity left to speak of is "piracy".Sep 15 03:37
schestowitz-piatm, techrights https is 5.8hits/sec since last rebootSep 15 03:37
DaemonFCThe corporations want to stamp it out so they can turn the Web into 100% bot shitposting on MSN, etc. and pipes for Netflix-like things.Sep 15 03:38
schestowitz-pibut if you check patterns, about 50% of that is some strange botsSep 15 03:38
DaemonFCThings have gotten to the point where there are product that like "negotiate your bills for you".Sep 15 03:38
schestowitz-piapparently for tuxmachines the ratio is betterSep 15 03:38
DaemonFCIt's a bot that argues with another bot.Sep 15 03:38
DaemonFC:)Sep 15 03:38
schestowitz-pilike stock marketSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-pihigh-frequency tradingSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-pisystem playing itselfSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-piwhile some idiots put in real moneySep 15 03:39
schestowitz-piand lose itSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-pithe cost of running sites went up due to botsSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-piDB churnSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-pib/wSep 15 03:39
schestowitz-pijust to serve some dodgy bots you don't understandSep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pithen reddit and twitter put barriersSep 15 03:40
schestowitz-piand block legit users (humans)Sep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pithat's today's "web"Sep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pimany fake startupsSep 15 03:40
schestowitz-piclaiming to have "TRAFFIC';Sep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pino moneySep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pibut "traffic"Sep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pito raise moneySep 15 03:40
schestowitz-pior they let some bot run crazy scraping everythingSep 15 03:40
schestowitz-piand call  that "success"Sep 15 03:41
schestowitz-piat whose expenseSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-pii had to block pcoreSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-piat workSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-piand homeSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-piit's a perl scraperSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-piwhen crawlers use that it's likely a waste of your cpuSep 15 03:41
schestowitz-pitiy serve a page that goes down the binSep 15 03:42
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, There was some woman that got in big trouble for this recently.Sep 15 03:42
schestowitz-piso why bother?Sep 15 03:42
DaemonFCShe sold some "app" to Chase Bank that claimed it had a bunch of users.Sep 15 03:42
DaemonFCMost of them were bots.Sep 15 03:42
DaemonFCThey sued her to get all this money they overpaid for it back.Sep 15 03:42
DaemonFChttps://www.forbes.com/sites/alexandralevine/2023/01/11/jp-morgan-fake-customers-frank-charlie-javice/Sep 15 03:43
DaemonFC"JPMorgan Chase is suing the 30-year-old founder of Frank, a buzzy fintech startup it acquired for $175 million, for allegedly lying about its scale and success by creating an enormous list of fake users to entice the financial giant to buy it."Sep 15 03:44
DaemonFC"The lawsuit, which was filed late last year in U.S. District Court in Delaware, claims that Javice pitched JP Morgan in 2021 on the “lie” that more than 4 million users had signed up to use Frank’s tools to apply for federal aid. When JP Morgan asked for proof during due diligence, Javice allegedly created an enormous roster of “fake customers – a list of names, addresses, dates of birth, and other personal information Sep 15 03:44
DaemonFCfor 4.265 million ‘students’ who did not actually exist.” In reality, according to the suit, Frank had fewer than 300,000 customer accounts at that time."Sep 15 03:44
DaemonFChttps://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/12/jpmorgan-chase-shutters-student-financial-aid-website-frank.htmlSep 15 03:46
DaemonFC"PMorgan Chase on Thursday shut down the website for a college financial aid platform it bought for $175 million after alleging the company’s founder created nearly 4 million fake customer accounts.Sep 15 03:46
DaemonFCJPMorgan said it learned the truth about Frank after sending out marketing emails to a batch of 400,000 customers. About 70% of the emails bounced back, the bank said in a lawsuit filed last month in federal court."Sep 15 03:46
schestowitz-piI am not sure whose side to takeSep 15 03:47
schestowitz-piI mean, come on... JPMorgan~~Sep 15 03:48
schestowitz-pithe scammer got scammedSep 15 03:48
schestowitz-piget popcornSep 15 03:48
schestowitz-piJPMorgan as the "victim"Sep 15 03:48
schestowitz-piclassic "fake it till you make it"Sep 15 03:48
schestowitz-pifor FOMOSep 15 03:48
DaemonFC"The fact that a young founder in an industry known for shaky metrics and a “fake it ’til you make it” ethos managed to allegedly dupe JPMorgan calls into question how stringent the bank’s due diligence process is."Sep 15 03:48
schestowitz-piFacebook did this tooSep 15 03:48
schestowitz-pifake scale, then people feel a "need" to joinSep 15 03:49
DaemonFChttps://www.propublica.org/article/a-return-to-robo-signing-jpmorgan-chase-has-unleashed-a-lawsuit-blitz-on-credit-card-customersSep 15 03:49
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, It makes me wonder how people get by, you know.Sep 15 03:52
DaemonFCSo many people sign up for this high interest debt and the people in doctor's offices encourage them to, so they can get a procedure.Sep 15 03:52
DaemonFCThe ENT says she can do the procedure on Mandy's ear before the end of November.Sep 15 03:53
DaemonFCThe insurance will cover all of it if we can get done before the end of the year.Sep 15 03:53
schestowitz-pihigh interest debt - rich getting richerSep 15 03:54
schestowitz-pithe rest working super hardSep 15 03:55
schestowitz-pito "service the interest'Sep 15 03:55
DaemonFChttps://www.propublica.org/article/how-navy-spent-billions-littoral-combat-shipSep 15 03:56
schestowitz-pii stay away from any loansSep 15 03:56
techrights-[sec]If there were original content in TM then IPFS would be of more use.Sep 15 04:09
schestowitz-pilatest git commit show you some patterns i am afterSep 15 04:11
schestowitz-pibut!!Sep 15 04:12
schestowitz-pii run out of relevant stories fastSep 15 04:12
schestowitz-pibecause the set (inputs) is thin or of low valueSep 15 04:12
schestowitz-pior worse, bothSep 15 04:12
schestowitz-pinytimes has a really nasty paywall nowSep 15 04:12
schestowitz-piseems universal, tooSep 15 04:12
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, Paying credit cards off.Sep 15 04:16
DaemonFCMandy has no idea what I have to look at every time I get on here.Sep 15 04:16
DaemonFCHe acts like it's just play money or something, which is why I turned all of his cards off years ago. While I was going bankrupt and trying to pay our rent in the middle of winter, he was just clicking on things in his iPhone and draining what was left in the bank.Sep 15 04:18
DaemonFCNot a small amount either.Sep 15 04:18
DaemonFCThen he acted like I was the bad guy for making him stop.Sep 15 04:18
schestowitz-piyou did not marry wiselySep 15 04:28
schestowitz-piyou stopped with the credit (debt) cardsSep 15 04:28
schestowitz-pibut instead implusively "bought" a spenderSep 15 04:28
schestowitz-pithis means, inter alia, that you married what you learned to avoidSep 15 04:28
schestowitz-pireckless spendingSep 15 04:29
schestowitz-piand that leads to conflict nowSep 15 04:29
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> MARISOL was screaming as something was laying waste to her work email and her icloud email.Sep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> She was calling my mother in Indiana saying that she couldn't work and they had the IT man out to her house.Sep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz> how did she get your mom's #?Sep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> It was 2020. We had been on okay terms until then.Sep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> So when I changed my phone number and got Mandy on my Sprint account to block MARISOL from Matt GULAGing herself with disposable phone numbers, she started harassing my mom with texts.Sep 15 04:30
schestowitz-piiirc, mandy did this tooSep 15 04:30
schestowitz-picontacting your parentsSep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pito bypass and pressure youSep 15 04:30
schestowitz-pirianne phoned my dad only onceSep 15 04:31
schestowitz-pibecause i was late coming back from the pub with a friendSep 15 04:31
schestowitz-piand she was working the following daySep 15 04:31
schestowitz-pithere are manipulative narcissists who call or shame peopleSep 15 04:31
schestowitz-pito get their warSep 15 04:31
schestowitz-pi*waySep 15 04:32
schestowitz-piand make feudsSep 15 04:32
schestowitz-pito benefit themselvesSep 15 04:32
schestowitz-pi<ExposingRoy> "People have asked me privately what it was like to date free software and linux advocate Roy Schestowitz, so I wrote another blog post" >Sep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pi<ExposingRoy>  ameliasconjecture.wordpress.com/2023/08/12/dating-an-extreme-cheapskate-roy-schestowitz/Sep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pi"ameliasconjecture.wordpress.com is no longer available.Sep 15 04:33
schestowitz-piThe authors have deleted this site."Sep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pi<MarshallMathers> have you considered that I'm not actually Matt? Like none of this makes sense. Your so-called evidence is we got disconnected at the same time, I don't think that'll hold up in court. I'm nothing like Matt.Sep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pitrying to imitate mattSep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pito cause a feud between me and himSep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pibritney handcuffsSep 15 04:33
schestowitz-pi<ExposingRoy> "People have asked me privately what it was like to date free software and linux advocate Roy Schestowitz, so I wrote another blog post" >Sep 15 04:34
schestowitz-pi<ExposingRoy>  ameliasconjecture.wordpress.com/2023/08/12/dating-an-extreme-cheapskate-roy-schestowitz/Sep 15 04:34
schestowitz-pi"ameliasconjecture.wordpress.com is no longer available.Sep 15 04:34
schestowitz-piThe authors have deleted this site."Sep 15 04:34
schestowitz-pi<MarshallMathers> have you considered that I'm not actually Matt? Like none of this makes sense. Your so-called evidence is we got disconnected at the same time, I don't think that'll hold up in court. I'm nothing like Matt.Sep 15 04:34
schestowitz-pipeople like these need to be avoidedSep 15 04:34
schestowitz-pithey try to cause conflictssSep 15 04:34
schestowitz-piand you get burned or waste time by engaging in any waySep 15 04:34
DaemonFCIt's not worth the time.Sep 15 04:34
DaemonFCGULAG says he's taking another clot shot.Sep 15 04:34
DaemonFCMaybe he should consider that's why he has all these sudden health problems and he's a bit over 40.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<elusive_woman> Do you want to know why I use a knife? Guns are too quick. You can't savor all the... little emotions. In... you see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> schestowitz[TR]: ^Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Matt GULAG reveals why he likes knives.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> Patrick Bateman shit right there.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> i will tell rianneSep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> she will document this tooSep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DrKnife> There never was a good knife made of bad steel.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> mjg59_: What kind of context would you prefer that your "stab Debian developers and myself" post be quoted in that would make it any less jarring and offensive?Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> we have 4 examples of the stabbing fetishSep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> put together, they paint a picture of some homeless junieSep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> maybe we can call him "Major Tom"Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> He argues that there was some sort of context that this should be in that would make it perfectly fine.Sep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pithat was britney handcuffs mostly likelySep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pitrying to sound like gulagboySep 15 04:35
schestowitz-pito cause conflictSep 15 04:35
DaemonFCIt's to the point where the media has gaslighted people to the point where they will never change their incorrect opinion that the shots do something other than make them sick.Sep 15 04:36
schestowitz-pithat changedSep 15 04:36
schestowitz-pithe tolerance threshold for pushbackSep 15 04:36
schestowitz-piI can say now about those shots what i could not in 2021Sep 15 04:36
schestowitz-pinot just die to social control media rulesSep 15 04:36
schestowitz-pibut public opinionSep 15 04:36
schestowitz-piit's now widely accepted the shots were falsely marketedSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-piand we still have loads of deathsSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pimore than should be expectedSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> the next stage for mjg59_ : think of preparing a public apologySep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> to gay peropleSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> meanwhile elusive_woman is deadSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> you created more sockpuppetsSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Injunctions granted in Denmark in Fingolimod-cases ☞ https://patentblog.kluweriplaw.com/2023/08/04/injunctions-granted-in-denmark-in-fingolimod-cases/Sep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- patentblog.kluweriplaw.com | Injunctions granted in Denmark in Fingolimod-cases - Kluwer Patent BlogSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> superhomphobicstabbermatthewcoke-a-liciousSep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<DaemonFC> It's just like "evil coffee".Sep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> he called you "fag"Sep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pithis is "SJW" calling people "fag"Sep 15 04:37
schestowitz-pithe trans "community" can be very anti-women and anti-gaysSep 15 04:38
schestowitz-piNOT your friends!!Sep 15 04:38
DaemonFCThey're extremely weird.Sep 15 04:38
DaemonFCAnd they're over-defensive to the point that they make people uncomfortable around them who didn't care one way or the other before.Sep 15 04:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> mjg59_: calling people "fag" is CoC violationSep 15 04:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> maybe DaemonFC  will report you for itSep 15 04:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> you also assert "fags" give blow jobs for cocaineSep 15 04:38
schestowitz-pi<mjg59_> Whose CoC?Sep 15 04:38
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> that's super  homophpobicSep 15 04:38
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: britney handcuffs works with gulagboySep 15 04:39
schestowitz-piit's not some unrelated activitySep 15 04:39
schestowitz-piand provoking is the goalSep 15 04:39
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, Where did the amelia blog go?Sep 15 04:39
DaemonFCWhy did Matt delete it?Sep 15 04:39
schestowitz-picalled ryan fag:Sep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pi<liberty_box_> DaemonFC: "elusive_woman is just mjg59_ unfiltered."  Matthew J. Garrett: a.k.a elusive_woman replies "DaemonFC: you're just Ben Shapiro but a fag" Sep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pithis is likely gulagboy via britney handcuffsSep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pithey are interjecting venomSep 15 04:40
schestowitz-piand upsetting peopleSep 15 04:40
schestowitz-piwe'll cover more of thisSep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pihours ago i sent rms leaked irc logsSep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pibritney handcuffs does not know i see those channelsSep 15 04:40
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, Matt and LOBSTA were posting comments on my blog.Sep 15 04:40
schestowitz-pirms had asked for theseSep 15 04:41
DaemonFCWhen they realized I wasn't going for it, they stopped.Sep 15 04:41
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: i filed a complaintSep 15 04:41
DaemonFCWhen you dignify them with a response, they keep going.Sep 15 04:41
schestowitz-pii will share the complaint in the futureSep 15 04:41
schestowitz-pitoo soon for nowSep 15 04:41
schestowitz-piyes, do not reply to them directltSep 15 04:41
schestowitz-piexposing them? OK.Sep 15 04:41
schestowitz-pithey went insane each time rianne did an articleSep 15 04:42
schestowitz-pithen went silent all of a suddeSep 15 04:42
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletionSep 15 04:42
schestowitz-pi*suddenSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC X1. Redirects created by NeelixSep 15 04:42
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DaemonFCX2. Pages created by the content translation toolSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Created to delete pages created by the content translation tool prior to 27 July 2016. Was deprecated in July 2017 when consensus agreed to move most of the remaining pages to the draft namespace (discussion).Sep 15 04:42
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schestowitz-piwe're not done with themSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomesSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Alternative outletsSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Category:Candidates for speedy deletionSep 15 04:42
schestowitz-piwe just pace down our response to itSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Category:CSD warning templatesSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Deletion templatesSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Deletion guidelines for administratorsSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Deletion reviewSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:No blank pagesSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Proposed deletionSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Undeletion policySep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:What to do if your article gets CSD taggedSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Why I Hate Speedy DeletersSep 15 04:42
DaemonFC    Wikipedia:Field guide to proper speedy deletionSep 15 04:42
DaemonFCFootnotesSep 15 04:42
DaemonFCIn this context, speedy refers to the simple decision-making process, not the length of time since the article was created.Sep 15 04:42
DaemonFCThe current wording of this paragraph dates to an April 2020 discussion. G14 was added in October 2020. C1 was added in August 2022.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCThe result of the most recent deletion discussion controls. This means that if the most recent discussion was "keep" or a default to keep through no consensus, G4 does not apply. Likewise, an article that was deleted through its most recent discussion, but was kept in earlier discussions, is subject to the criterion and may be deleted. (Discussion.)Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCA conversion to draft is when a page from a different namespace is moved, or its content copied, as a draft.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCPage moves are excluded because of a history of improper deletions of these redirects. A move creates a redirect to ensure that any external links that point to Wikipedia remain valid; should such links exist, deleting these redirects will break them. Such redirects must be discussed at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion before deletion. However, redirects that were obviously made in error can be deleted as G6, technical deletions.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCNote that new editors sometimes mistakenly start article drafts on talk pages that have no article. If you see this, move the draft to the draft space or to the user's userspace, making sure the new user is listed as author and not you.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCIt was determined that the community consensus in this RfC regarding draft namespace redirects amounted to "there is a clear consensus against deletion of draft namespace redirects. There is a rough consensus against the alternative proposal to delete draft namespace redirects after six months."Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCPer this RFC.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCAn Rfc containing relevant discussions on the A1 criterionSep 15 04:43
DaemonFCConsensus has developed that in most cases articles should not be tagged for deletion under this criterion moments after creation as the creator may be actively working on the content; though there is no set time requirement, a ten-minute delay before tagging under this criterion is suggested as good practice. Please do not mark the page as patrolled before that delay passes, to ensure the article is reviewed at a later time.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCRoutine coverage of unorganised events – for example, shooting incidents – may not necessarily qualify under A7; deletion discussions should be preferred in such cases.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCPast discussions leading to schools being exempt from A7.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCThe definition of recent is intentionally flexible since some pages may receive more notice than others. Pages older than about 3–6 weeks are unlikely to be considered recently recreated; pages older than about 3–4 months almost never are. Higher-profile pages are considered recently created for shorter periods than those with a lower profile.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCUnlike a hoax, subject to deletion as vandalism under CSD G3 as a bad faith attempt to deceive, CSD A11 is for topics that were or may have been actually created and are real, but have no notice or significance except among a small group of people, e.g. a newly invented drinking game or new word.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCSee Wikipedia:Merge and delete for an explanation as to why redirects created by merges cannot be deleted in most cases.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCThis does not apply to images duplicated on Wikimedia Commons, because of license issues; instead see "Images available as identical copies on the Wikimedia Commons".Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCBefore deleting this latter type of file/page, check whether the MediaWiki engine can read it by previewing a resized thumbnail of it. Even if it renders, if it contains significant superfluous information that cannot be accounted for as metadata directly relating to the media data, it may be deleted. It is always preferred to correct the problem by uploading a file that contains only the good data plus acceptable metadata.Sep 15 04:43
DaemonFCContent from file description pages that is relevant to the Commons should be copied over before deleting the local page. If necessary, copy the attribution history as well.Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFCWikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion § U2 and global accountsSep 15 04:44
DaemonFCOops.Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFCThat was supposed to be one paragraph.Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFCX1. Redirects created by NeelixSep 15 04:44
DaemonFC    Created as a G6 extension in December 2015 shortly after the discovery and arbitration case regarding 50,000+ questionable redirects created by the user Neelix, and later split into its own criterion. Was repealed in April 2018 after cleanup was completed (discussion). Instead, use Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion.Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFCOne user created 50,000 "questionable redirects" and got his own category>?Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFCI might look into this.Sep 15 04:44
DaemonFChttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive904#Dozens,Thousands_upon_thousands_of_unnecessary_redirectsSep 15 04:44
schestowitz-piwikipedia is hard to manageSep 15 04:45
schestowitz-piit's big Sep 15 04:45
schestowitz-piit's spammerSep 15 04:45
schestowitz-piunderstaffedSep 15 04:45
schestowitz-piand targeted by too many states and pr agenciesSep 15 04:46
schestowitz-pistick a fork in itSep 15 04:46
schestowitz-pieven its own co-founder, sagner, blasted it months agoSep 15 04:46
schestowitz-pihe reocgnised the failingsSep 15 04:51
schestowitz-piand started his own thingSep 15 04:51
schestowitz-piThe Mozilla Blog promoted TikTokism. What a bloody joke of a company! ☞ https://blog.mozilla.org/en/internet-culture/firefox-irl-for-red-panda-day/Sep 15 04:53
DaemonFCschestowitz-pi, I removed 1,200+ characters of junk from that one article.Sep 15 04:54
DaemonFCSo far.Sep 15 04:54
techrights-newsSFC promoting "social" [sic] "media" [sic] https://sfconservancy.org/news/2023/sep/14/fossy-videos/ "We'll be highlighting specific talks over the comings days, so be on the lookout on our social media"Sep 15 04:55
schestowitz-piSFC promoting "social" [sic] "media" [sic] https://sfconservancy.org/news/2023/sep/14/fossy-videos/ "We'll be highlighting specific talks over the comings days, so be on the lookout on our social media"Sep 15 04:55
schestowitz-piDaemonFC: have funSep 15 04:55
schestowitz-pi'fixing' wikipedia is a waste of timeSep 15 04:55
schestowitz-pithey can roll back everything you doSep 15 04:55
schestowitz-pior didSep 15 04:55
schestowitz-piany time in the futureSep 15 04:56
schestowitz-piso enjoy the "wikipedia game"Sep 15 04:56
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techrights-[sec]I notice that Futurism also just cites social control media in place ofSep 15 07:39
techrights-[sec]actual journalismSep 15 07:39
schestowitz-piFuturism attacked FSF/RMSSep 15 07:39
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techrights-[sec]If Futurism is gullible enough to believe social control media in place ofSep 15 07:53
techrights-[sec]actual sources then it is a disappointing nonsurprise that they also gotSep 15 07:53
techrights-[sec]fed and believed the lies about RMS.   Sep 15 07:53
techrights-[sec]and the FSFSep 15 07:53
schestowitz-piit is a notorious "bill says" publisherSep 15 07:54
schestowitz-pii never had respect for itSep 15 07:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): The Debian Project mourns the loss of Abraham Raji ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/The_Debian_Project_mourns_the_loss_of_Abraham_Raji.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/The_Debian_Project_mourns_the_loss_of_Abraham_Raji.gmi ∎Sep 15 08:06
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Find That Obscure Function With This Interactive Map Of The Linux Kernel ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Find_That_Obscure_Function_With_This_Interactive_Map_Of_The_Lin.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Find_That_Obscure_Function_With_This_Interactive_Map_Of_The_Lin.gmi ∎Sep 15 08:06
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GitHub alienates users with AI recommendations ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/GitHub_alienates_users_with_AI_recommendations.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/GitHub_alienates_users_with_AI_recommendations.gmi ∎Sep 15 08:06
techrights-[sec]social control media is discussed here a bit: Sep 15 08:12
techrights-[sec]https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/09/12/1230204Sep 15 08:12
techrights-[sec]https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/09/10/1744214Sep 15 08:12
schestowitz-pichatbots and social control media make it "OK" to lessen factual elementsSep 15 08:14
schestowitz-pibtw, you put a lot of chatbot under proprietary/HEY HISep 15 08:14
schestowitz-pichatbots are proprietary, but not HEY HISep 15 08:14
schestowitz-pii see https://www.news.iastate.edu/news/2023/06/14/limiting-social-media is in daily links alreadySep 15 08:14
schestowitz-piunder [old]Sep 15 08:14
techrights-[sec]I consider chatbots proprietary.  Shoulds AI be split off as its own     Sep 15 08:15
techrights-[sec]subcategory to reduce ambiguity there in the taxonomy?Sep 15 08:15
schestowitz-pii see no need tbhSep 15 08:16
schestowitz-pias you can see the hype effect wearinfg or tapering offSep 15 08:16
schestowitz-pii reckon not much of this will be found months from now anywaySep 15 08:16
techrights-[sec]Yes part of it is that too much which is not AI has been mismarketed as such.Sep 15 08:16
techrights-[sec]IIRC it is Doctorow who refers to LLMs as "plausible sentence generators"Sep 15 08:16
techrights-[sec]which is  a fairly accurate description.  Sep 15 08:16
schestowitz-piCory and http://techrights.org/2023/08/21/stochastic-parrots-spun-as-ml/Sep 15 08:17
schestowitz-piremember that many people who MANAGE IT, not just those working in IT (like gulagboy), back understandingSep 15 08:20
schestowitz-piand theory in CSSep 15 08:20
schestowitz-piso you throw buzzwords at them and they absorb that as factSep 15 08:20
schestowitz-piand name-drop a lotSep 15 08:20
schestowitz-pi lack, not backSep 15 08:20
schestowitz-piDEI is another case of, let's lessen the standardsSep 15 08:23
schestowitz-pilike EPO recruitment and time spent per applicationSep 15 08:23
schestowitz-pikeeping the more talented people out of the system, strugglingSep 15 08:23
schestowitz-piit benefits the likes of billg and other flunkiesSep 15 08:23
techrights-[sec]That is an additional reason why it is inappropriate for microsofters and theirSep 15 08:23
techrights-[sec]ilk to be allowed to set national policy in any nation. Sep 15 08:23
schestowitz-pithere is this theory about insecurity complexSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-piand why those with imposter syndrome are more submissiveSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pipeople like zemlinSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-piwhereas rms can quit his jkob at 30 to pursue what he thinks is rightSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pihe reckons his knowledge will not leave him selling pancils in the streetsSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-piso paradoxically the high-paying jobs do not go to the most qualifiedSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-piand people who command "the system" might even prefer it that waySep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pithey breed cows, not bullsSep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pior ride female elephants (known as cows)Sep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pidespite them being smaller and less impressive then male (bullelephants)Sep 15 08:27
schestowitz-pieither way, it occurred to me an hour ago we need to keep on rowing in the same directipnSep 15 08:28
schestowitz-pias that seems to hurt our enemies a lotSep 15 08:28
schestowitz-pitrying to appease trolls is the worst things we can doSep 15 08:28
schestowitz-pirianne already works on her next articleSep 15 08:28
techrights-[sec]appeasement never works, that tactic has been debunked again and againSep 15 08:33
techrights-[sec]though it is often promoted, albeit by tools of the beligerantsSep 15 08:33
schestowitz-pikuusenkerkkae.pngSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pimy cover photo this past weekSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-piwhen i hide this screenSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pii started switching tgings off and covering them when recording Sep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pito lessen distractionSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pitoday will be the first day I experiment with new filtering frameworkSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pimaybe no videos, seeing what futurism and other crap becomes Sep 15 08:40
schestowitz-piand thus, imho, a need to squeeze what's left of real journalismSep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pii added a trap for craig murrey some days ago Sep 15 08:40
schestowitz-pibut he seldom writes anymoeSep 15 08:41
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> GitHub (Microsoft) now attacking the GPL some more and the OSI, bribed by both Microsoft and GitHub (doubling the bribe), is taking Microsoft's side, effectively attacking the GPL. OSI needs to be torn down. It's attacking Free software; that's what Microsoft pays it to do.Sep 15 08:48
techrights-[sec]Didn't Murrey have his laptop stolen several times, despite being reasonably Sep 15 08:48
techrights-[sec]on guard?Sep 15 08:48
schestowitz-pii know of onceSep 15 08:49
schestowitz-piin a trainSep 15 08:49
schestowitz-pirms had his stolen in argentinaSep 15 08:49
schestowitz-pihe told me in person he also lost his camera this waySep 15 08:49
schestowitz-pithose are devastating thingsSep 15 08:49
schestowitz-piyou don't know who has access to whatSep 15 08:49
techrights-[sec]yes RMS lost his while up on stage, it was clearly a targeted move but no ideaSep 15 09:11
techrights-[sec]by whoSep 15 09:11
techrights-[sec]RMS is not a bullshitter which is why he is not independently wealthySep 15 09:11
techrights-[sec]You have to have a lot of that in you and enjoy it to a certain extent Sep 15 09:11
techrights-[sec]to accumulate other people's wealth as your own.  Sep 15 09:11
schestowitz-pias the system intends, social and/pre peer pressure (family too)Sep 15 09:11
schestowitz-pipersists to shame one into "proving one's wisdom or worth Sep 15 09:11
schestowitz-piby becoming another person's slaveSep 15 09:11
schestowitz-pior sinking as much as the system permits into debtSep 15 09:11
schestowitz-piwhich is anothef form of slaverySep 15 09:11
schestowitz-pirms managed to give this the cold shoulderSep 15 09:11
schestowitz-pimaybe being "odd" helped with thatSep 15 09:11
schestowitz-piresisting the temptationSep 15 09:11
techrights-[sec]Bullshitters have it easier in that regard.  At university I could have gotten Sep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]better treatment from the administration but for the observation thatSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]it wasn't that I couldn't kiss ass it was just that people could tell thatSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]I did not like itSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]I grumble about all this at the moment because a former acquaintanceSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]started yet another company, this one is SaaS kind of.  I gave him a spareSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]phone with Internet access so he could start/run a small company then Sep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]gave/sold for a song a non-Windows computer which caused the departmentSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]to sell it off a couple of years later for $ASTRONOMICAL sum to an multinationalSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]Saw a very recent video of him throwing *lots* of buzzwords around.  Sep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]On one level, it brings in *tons* of money.  On another level, one can askSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]if that is something which even benefits society. Sep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]I would guess by some metrics he is a billionaire now, but it would be goodSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]if he were to publicly expound on the open standards and Free and Open SourceSep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]software which made *all* of his early and middle work possibble.  Sep 15 09:13
techrights-[sec]At least he might not be agitating against it any more, but no details availableSep 15 09:13
schestowitz-pithe myth that rich means smart is promoted by those who became rich and then, afterward, want to appear smartSep 15 09:14
techrights-[sec]He could toss 1M at RMS or FSF and not even notice.Sep 15 09:15
techrights-[sec]RMS on the other hand could do wonders with that 1M.Sep 15 09:15
schestowitz-pimoney does not solve all issuesSep 15 09:17
schestowitz-piatm i think fsf is too passive or reactionarySep 15 09:17
schestowitz-pieither way,Sep 15 09:17
schestowitz-pito the million the billionaire seems powerfulSep 15 09:17
schestowitz-piand to people with 100s of billions the billioanire is a like antSep 15 09:17
schestowitz-piso it's not a race one can win by going up the "ladder"Sep 15 09:17
schestowitz-pialso, many in the group are near the end of their lifeSep 15 09:17
techrights-[sec]FSF has definitely become too passive.  Mozilla and EFF work on frivilous andSep 15 09:22
techrights-[sec]irrelevant projects off their core missions.  The EFF distracts further by  Sep 15 09:22
techrights-[sec]limiting it's core activities to subsets of the population and thus ceding anSep 15 09:22
techrights-[sec]overall loss in the big picture.   Sep 15 09:22
schestowitz-pii agree with you 100% on thisSep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pilet's look for things we might _not_ agree onSep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pie.g. eff budget shows that more money, "mo problems"Sep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pialso, to the person who "makes the first million"Sep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pireminder them how powerless they are to the billionairesSep 15 09:24
schestowitz-piesp. knowing how hard they worked (sacrifice) for that moneySep 15 09:24
schestowitz-piwhile racing towards their 70sSep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pirms, like some politicians, leaves something other than a bank account with x digitsSep 15 09:24
schestowitz-pibiab, covering screen as rianne found somethying incriminatingSep 15 09:24
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): GitHub alienates users with AI recommendations ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/GitHub_alienates_users_with_AI_recommendations.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/GitHub_alienates_users_with_AI_recommendations.gmi ∎Sep 15 09:48
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Mozilla and International Red Panda Day ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Mozilla_and_International_Red_Panda_Day.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Mozilla_and_International_Red_Panda_Day.gmi ∎Sep 15 09:48
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Godot Engine, Unity's Suicide, Heretic's Fork, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Games_Godot_Engine_Unity_s_Suicide_Heretic_s_Fork_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Games_Godot_Engine_Unity_s_Suicide_Heretic_s_Fork_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 15 09:48
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): AIwashing by Canonical and RT Kernel ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/AIwashing_by_Canonical_and_RT_Kernel.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/AIwashing_by_Canonical_and_RT_Kernel.gmi ∎Sep 15 09:48
techrights-[sec]Changing jobs now: https://www.thefreedictionary.com/tyromancySep 15 09:58
schestowitz-pigood links todaySep 15 10:15
schestowitz-pii want to clean the fileSep 15 10:15
schestowitz-pithen do an ourdoor runSep 15 10:15
schestowitz-piirc still on topic, plus in some channels not publicly loggedSep 15 10:15
schestowitz-piare logs due soon?Sep 15 10:15
schestowitz-pithe adage newer is not always betterSep 15 10:24
schestowitz-pineeds a rallying cry or solgan for rejecting some supposedly "modern" techSep 15 10:24
schestowitz-pilobotech sounds like lobo, wold in PT IIRCSep 15 10:24
schestowitz-pirather than lobotomisedSep 15 10:24
schestowitz-pineed a catch-all phraseSep 15 10:24
schestowitz-pihttps://www.vice.com/en/article/pkaqmk/google-extends-chromebook-life-by-2-years-after-right-to-repair-campaigSep 15 10:43
schestowitz-pinSep 15 10:43
schestowitz-pithis is exactly what i said about sirius YEARS agoSep 15 10:43
schestowitz-piit's like reading my own essay :-)Sep 15 10:43
schestowitz-pioops wrong articleSep 15 10:43
schestowitz-pithis one"Sep 15 10:43
schestowitz-pihttps://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/09/slack-redesign-office-social-media/675324/Sep 15 10:43
*MinceR gives voice to wallacerSep 15 10:56
techrights-[sec]checkingSep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]Yep kids have grown up with facebook or similar social control media and thatSep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]shapes their expectations of the computing experience.  Thus they prioritizeSep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]'engagement' above all else and that ends up getting in the way of getting Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]anything done ever.  Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]i.e. Slack Inc is a time sink.  I still think that Slackware ought to have Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]gone after them for trademark infringement.  As mentioned before, managersSep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]who had obviously never heard of Slackware were presented with Slack IncSep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]and asked their IT staff what they thinkg of "Slack".  The IT staff, thinkiing\Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]that the manager was gaining enlightement and was referring to Slackware    Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]obvious answered with praise and the manager thinking about Slack Inc deployed Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]it much to the disappointment of all.  Then as some momentum gained, it    Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]got a life of its own.  Sep 15 10:59
techrights-[sec]Our lemon grass has grown well over the summer and is ready for use.Sep 15 11:00
techrights-[sec]We avoided frost last night because there was a heavy fog.  Sep 15 11:00
techrights-[sec]But all the sensitive plants in pots have been moved indoors.  Sep 15 11:02
techrights-newsLinks 15/09/2023: More Harm by Windows and TikTok | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/harm-by-windows-and-tiktok/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/harm-by-windows-and-tiktok/Sep 15 11:05
techrights-newsLinks 15/09/2023: RIP, Abraham Raji (Debian) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/rip-abraham-raji/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/rip-abraham-raji/Sep 15 11:09
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Chromebooks Get 10 Years ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Chromebooks_Get_10_Years.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Chromebooks_Get_10_Years.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Microsoft Blunders and Windows TCO ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Microsoft_Blunders_and_Windows_TCO.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Microsoft_Blunders_and_Windows_TCO.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Free, Libre, and Open Source Software Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Free_Libre_and_Open_Source_Software_Leftovers.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Open_Hardware_Modding_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:10
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): OpenBSD Stories ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/OpenBSD_Stories.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/OpenBSD_Stories.gmi ∎Sep 15 11:11
techrights-newsGemini Links 15/09/2023: More Terminal Emulator Hipsters | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/terminal-emulator-hipsters/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/terminal-emulator-hipsters/Sep 15 13:08
techrights-[sec]https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/ancient-timesSep 15 13:19
techrights-[sec]https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/researchSep 15 13:21
schestowitz-pi99% of the users have a tiny "sufience"Sep 15 13:24
schestowitz-piaudienceSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-piso the fake numbers come ouytSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pibots "impressions etcSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pisee spamnilSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pi10 viewers become 1000Sep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pijust wait 2-3 weeks wehn the swarm messes the clocksSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-piirc logsSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pi?Sep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pilol at the second oneSep 15 13:24
schestowitz-pi"meme depecting opponents as sheep"Sep 15 13:24
techrights-[sec]yepSep 15 13:28
techrights-[sec]there is so much noise on the web these yearsSep 15 13:28
schestowitz-piwhen i argue with people,Sep 15 13:29
schestowitz-pii often ask,Sep 15 13:29
schestowitz-piwhere did u see it?Sep 15 13:29
schestowitz-pifb?Sep 15 13:29
techrights-[sec]they often answer with some vague 'on the Net' type evasionSep 15 13:30
techrights-[sec]6~Sep 15 13:30
techrights-[sec]that's the worst, since people see Facebook as the sourceSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]There were some problematic interviews on the radio a year or two backSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]where the reporteres were praising the alleged general ability of youthSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]to discern truth from misinformation and disinformation.  When asking Sep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]random kids about it, the kids answered correctly gaining praise fromSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]the reporters and while that praise was going on the kids would addSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]"unless it gets forwarded from a friend or relative".  So basically Sep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]they believe nearly anything, thus Bytedance's Tiktok was able to throwSep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]the last election here.  Sep 15 13:34
techrights-[sec]Trying to transfer a scrape of the nodes from tm-old to a machine here.Sep 15 13:43
techrights-[sec]170K files is a large number even if not all that big individually.  Sep 15 13:43
techrights-[sec]Many rationalize their misuse of and abuse by Facebook by claiming the "only"Sep 15 13:43
techrights-[sec]use it for a specific purpose, not wanting to understand how the whole thingSep 15 13:43
techrights-[sec]works.  Sep 15 13:43
schestowitz-piwe try to tell the yogo place to use the siteSep 15 13:44
schestowitz-pinot FBSep 15 13:44
schestowitz-pias it discriminates agaibst sane peopleSep 15 13:44
schestowitz-pi*yogaSep 15 13:44
techrights-[sec]IRC this evening : https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=57617#1324691Sep 15 13:56
techrights-[sec]The yoga place should maintain their own web site, The Oatmeal had anSep 15 13:56
techrights-[sec]example of why in one illustrative cartoon. Sep 15 13:56
techrights-[sec]Excellent. Sep 15 13:56
schestowitz-pii am always in that channelSep 15 13:56
schestowitz-piwe need irc logs publish for 14.9Sep 15 13:58
schestowitz-pi*publishedSep 15 13:59
schestowitz-pitoday i will catch up with important tech news I ovcrlooked beforeSep 15 13:59
techrights-newsIRC Proceedings: Thursday, September 14, 2023 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/irc-log-140923/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/irc-log-140923/Sep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]checkingSep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-140923.html#tSep%2014%2001:38:28Sep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]maybe someone can dig up the court quote from 2000 or 2001 where an  m$ execSep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]bragged that it would be his patriotic duty to put backdoors in their softwareSep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]if called upon by their government to do so.  The anti-trust case was droppedSep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]within a week or week and a half later.  Sep 15 14:17
schestowitz-pi"patriotic duty" was Jim ZAllchin IIRCSep 15 14:17
techrights-[sec]Yes, I was just thinking that.  It might be hard to find though.Sep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]It'd be worth having in the archive if anyone can find a good source.Sep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]Nothing in the search engines on those words.  I bet the magazine(s) whichSep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]reported on that are long gone.Sep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]The court records would be the place to look in that case. Sep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]Either way it was > 20 years ago. Sep 15 14:22
schestowitz-piless than a generattion is a blink of an eye in historical scale/terms Sep 15 14:22
schestowitz-piwe just suck or keeping thingsSep 15 14:22
techrights-[sec]Those things are lost on purpose, not the specific pages but the generalSep 15 14:31
techrights-[sec]type of online publications.  Sep 15 14:31
schestowitz-pibecause the gatekeepers are bad actorsSep 15 14:32
schestowitz-piand their aims are sickSep 15 14:32
schestowitz-pithe concept of preservation is deaf-toned to themSep 15 14:32
schestowitz-pimy site has had no broken links for 20+ yearsSep 15 14:32
schestowitz-pieverything still worksSep 15 14:32
techrights-[sec]"gangs" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/13/sweden-gang-violence-shootings-explosionsSep 15 16:09
techrights-[sec]It took half an hour for a report on the radio to get around to mentioningSep 15 16:09
techrights-[sec]"clan culture" and never mentioned the i-wordSep 15 16:09
schestowitz-pithis won't workSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piit's like calling latinos and blacks by code wordsSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-pisooner or later the aliases become dog whistlesSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piand people can use the dog whistlesSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piand everyone know who or what they talk aboutSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piand become cynicalSep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piin yorkshire where rianne's aunt works they call pakistania "pokemon"Sep 15 16:10
schestowitz-piis that making it any better?Sep 15 16:10
techrights-[sec]They're trying to brush the problem under the rug and that has only madeSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]the problem worse over the decades until it has gotten to the point whereSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]they have over 100 explosions to-date this year and someting like a halfSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]dozen shootings per week around the nation.  A reason they don't even talkSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]around the problem and just hide it is social media.  Roving bands of vigilantesSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]search social media for dissent with help of the police and pour heavySep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]charges with heavier punishments on dissenters, successfully.  Sep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]Hege Storhaug wrote about the problem but is routinely threatened with deathSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]and has even been beaten senseless in the street over it.  Thus the politiciansSep 15 16:15
techrights-[sec]stay mum and wait for it to be some other politician's problem.  Sep 15 16:15
schestowitz-pidraftSep 15 16:20
techrights-[sec]checking draft Sep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]probaby ought to link to both active lawsuits against ChatGPT. Sep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]over plagiarismSep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]There are actually more than two lawsuits against ChatGPT and some againstSep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]others too.  s/ChatGPT/OpenAI/ Sep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]Enumerating them might come in handy here. Sep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]https://llmlitigation.com/Sep 15 16:21
techrights-[sec]https://www.npr.org/2023/08/16/1194202562/new-york-times-considers-legal-action-against-openai-as-copyright-teSep 15 16:24
techrights-[sec]nsions-swirlSep 15 16:24
techrights-[sec]https://www.reuters.com/technology/more-writers-sue-openai-copyright-infringement-over-ai-training-2023-09-11/Sep 15 16:24
techrights-[sec]the reuters article mentions 'at least' three lawsuits against OpenAI forSep 15 16:24
techrights-[sec]plagiarism so farSep 15 16:24
techrights-[sec]https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/11/23869145/writers-sue-openai-chatgpt-copyright-claimsSep 15 16:27
techrights-[sec]s/Matthew J Garrett/Matthew J Garret of TPM infamy/Sep 15 16:27
techrights-newsOpen Source Initiative to Help Microsoft Attack Copyright-based Copyleft (Under the False Guise of ’Hey Hi’) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/osi-microsoft-lobbying/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/osi-microsoft-lobbying/Sep 15 16:36
schestowitz-pithanks for reminding me those thingsSep 15 16:36
schestowitz-pii was upset to see those blog postd from ISUSep 15 16:36
schestowitz-pigoing back to links nowSep 15 16:36
techrights-[sec]npSep 15 16:45
techrights-newsMULTI-clown, SUPER-clown... keep on going with your silly buzzwords. We're all wet in anticipation. MEGA-clown? God-clown? META-verse? What other BS in the pipeline?Sep 15 16:49
techrights-[sec]s/Board of the Foundation is dominated by Microsoft/Board of the Foundation is dominated by Microsoft with x oSep 15 17:12
techrights-[sec]ut of y board members having an m$ affiliation/Sep 15 17:12
schestowitz-piamendedSep 15 17:12
techrights-newsLinux Foundation Newsletter for September 2023 is Out: Linux (Kernel) Hardly Even Mentioned, As Usual | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/linux-foundation-newsletter-for-september/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/linux-foundation-newsletter-for-september/Sep 15 17:14
techrights-[sec]thanks  Sep 15 17:16
techrights-[sec]how many with indirect affiliation?Sep 15 17:16
schestowitz-pithe criteria would be subjectiveSep 15 17:16
schestowitz-pihttp://techrights.org/2022/02/18/linux-foundation-board-2022/Sep 15 17:16
techrights-[sec]maybe an approximation +/- depending on criteriaSep 15 17:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Not even a single person representing the community; this is a corporate think tank, with the token patent person thrown in too https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/the-linux-foundation-announces-schedule-for-annual-member-summitSep 15 17:19
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> Linux Foundation: Got lots of money? No? Then go away. Stop wasting our time!Sep 15 17:22
schestowitz-pi* ZedHedTed has quit (Quit: leaving)Sep 15 17:22
schestowitz-pi<techrights-news> There is, as per the brochure as well, a strong correlation between sponsorship and keynote slots; yes, you need to pay to speak. Poor? Then no time for you to present. Stop being poor.Sep 15 17:23
techrights-[sec]Recall that LF booted its community representation prior to becoming further Sep 15 17:26
techrights-[sec]corrupt.  The corruption had already started by then but was under the radarSep 15 17:26
techrights-[sec]then.  Sep 15 17:26
*oarion7 (~ryan@mfmwu5c33pkb2.irc) has joined #tuxmachinesSep 15 17:38
schestowitz-pidraft sSep 15 17:39
schestowitz-pishortSep 15 17:39
techrights-news’Linux’ Foundation: Made on Apple Mac With Proprietary Software (As Always) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/linux-foundation-not-related-to-linux/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/linux-foundation-not-related-to-linux/Sep 15 17:40
techrights-[sec]context?Sep 15 17:40
schestowitz-pipursing hard proof atmSep 15 17:40
schestowitz-piwon't publish till thenSep 15 17:40
techrights-[sec]okSep 15 17:42
techrights-[sec]a lot of new or casual readers might not realize that the LF does not promoteSep 15 17:46
techrights-[sec]Linux but instead promotes its members corporate interests within the kernel Sep 15 17:46
techrights-[sec]as a project.  Reminders of that are needed at intervals.Sep 15 17:46
schestowitz-piadded as future video notes, thanksSep 15 17:47
schestowitz-piso far today mostly good news thoughSep 15 17:47
schestowitz-pipostgres 16 is outSep 15 17:47
techrights-[sec]PostGres is great but underratedSep 15 17:48
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:54
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware: Raspberry Pi, Arduino, and More ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/14/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/14/Open_Hardware_Raspberry_Pi_Arduino_and_More.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): pg_ivm 1.7 released ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/14/pg_ivm_1_7_released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/14/pg_ivm_1_7_released.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Best Free and Open Source Alternatives to Apple ColorSync Utility ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_ColorSync_Utili.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Alternatives_to_Apple_ColorSync_Utili.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Krita 5.2 Release Candidate is out ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Krita_5_2_Release_Candidate_is_out.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Krita_5_2_Release_Candidate_is_out.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 10 Best Features in GNOME 45 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/10_Best_Features_in_GNOME_45.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/10_Best_Features_in_GNOME_45.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): PostgreSQL 16 Released! ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/PostgreSQL_16_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/PostgreSQL_16_Released.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:55
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎Sep 15 17:56
*MinceR gives voice to oarion7Sep 15 19:31
techrights-[sec]afkSep 15 22:11
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Collection of Recommended Applications on Debian 12 Bookworm ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Collection_of_Recommended_Applications_on_Debian_12_Bookworm.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Collection_of_Recommended_Applications_on_Debian_12_Bookworm.gmi ∎Sep 15 22:14
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/09/15/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Sep 15 22:14
schestowitz-pimechanicjay> thanks guys, I'll check in later!Sep 15 22:19
schestowitz-pi<notkolie> thx dudes.Sep 15 22:19
schestowitz-pi<schestowitz[TR]> 0.Sep 15 22:19
schestowitz-pi<janrinok> meeting adjourned at 21:18 UTCSep 15 22:19
techrights-newsGemini Links 15/09/2023: Unity Uproar and Upcoming Gemini Projects | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/09/15/unity-uproar/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/09/15/unity-uproar/Sep 15 23:29
schestowitz-pigood news, our bank now adopts the position that interest rates will likelt remain the same next eyarSep 15 23:53
schestowitz-pithis means next year too the interest alone can cover most of our spendingsSep 15 23:53
schestowitz-pi(assuming access to the same goods and services, which should be doable)Sep 15 23:53
schestowitz-pithey even added a two-year plan with 5.6% AERSep 15 23:53

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