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| techrights-news | ⚓ Skyfall for Sirius 'Open Source': A Second Pension Provider Starts to Investigate Serious (Sirius) Abuses | ♾ Gemini address: Skyfall for Sirius 'Open Source': A Second Pension Provider Starts to Investigate Serious (Sirius) Abuses | Mar 17 02:40 |
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| techrights-news | Skyfall for Sirius ’Open Source’: A Second Pension Provider Starts to Investigate Serious (Sirius) Abuses | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/16/sirius-open-source-fraud/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/16/sirius-open-source-fraud/ | Mar 17 02:40 |
| techrights-news | Sirius Open Source primer http://techrights.org/wiki/Sirius_Open_Source | Mar 17 02:47 |
| techrights-news | CNN has since then removed its own leading story, "Chinese-made drone, retrofitted and weaponized, downed in eastern Ukraine". CNN does xenophobia and "war porn"; it does it with style, so racism and blood-lust are considered "OK". Deleting CNN from our feeds. This has gone TOO far. | Mar 17 03:45 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): NordVPN Open Sources Key Modules for Community Collaboration ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/NordVPN_Open_Sources_Key_Modules_for_Community_Collaboration.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/NordVPN_Open_Sources_Key_Modules_for_Community_Collaboration.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 04:21 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Variables in Python: Concepts with Examples & Common Errors ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Variables_in_Python_Concepts_with_Examples_Common_Errors.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Variables_in_Python_Concepts_with_Examples_Common_Errors.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 04:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | imho | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | financial crisis deepening | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | made progress with pension | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | thompson video 3k shortly | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so it's getting there... 40 hours later | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | did rms envision unix geeks, 10 years his senior, adopting gnu? | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i know one died circa 2011 | Mar 17 04:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/index.gmi | Mar 17 04:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i wanted to check earlier but forgot to | Mar 17 04:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | you reminded me | Mar 17 04:26 |
| techrights[sec] | RMS responded with an encouragement to also do non-coding contributions to | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | software freedom. At least it was a response and he did thank for the | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | efforts in championing software freedom. I'm rather limited there so | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | best to keep on with TR and TM. | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | With as busy as he probably is, I am pleasantly surprised to get any reply. | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | 3k views is good, especially since there is a transcript, but still not what | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | I would have liked it to reach. How were the Gemini stats? The transcript | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | will have done a lot of good there. | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | RMS should encourage the FSF to get involved in the Biden administration | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | It is too late but still important to tryL | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/03/15/1633247#1296627 | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | It is to the point where Biden is openly allowing m$ to write national policy | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | and draft its own regulations. | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | Yes, Dennis Ritchie passed on already. I think he was probablh too sedentary, | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | so that may have shortened his life by a decade or so. Ken seems a bit more | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | acctive. | Mar 17 04:27 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | gemini://gemini.techrights.org/stats/stats-2023-03-16.gmi | Mar 17 04:27 |
| techrights[sec] | Not much traffic there in Gemini on that topic/ | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | Oh wait, I missed it. It's there at the top with a very respectable 1325 hits | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | :) | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | Almost 400 hits from yesterday alone! That's good, it means that people are | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | finding the Gemini capsule for TR useful. | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | The title is wrong in Gemini though. | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | I've been noticing here about how tight things are financially. | Mar 17 04:32 |
| techrights[sec] | That's too bad. | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i am very worried atm re finance | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we chatted about this in ychat about 12 months ago | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | when i wanted to leave the job | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and we talked about unforeseen inflation | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and how this impacts poeple wishing toi sem-retire | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | mike phoned me this week (the man in rianne's photo) | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | after the banking collapses he said he no longer had plan to retire at 55 | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | he changed plans this week | Mar 17 04:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> Credit Suisse to borrow up to $54 billion from Switzerland's central bank ☞ https://www.axios.com/2023/03/16/credit-suisse-borrow-54-billion-switzerlands-central-bank | Mar 17 04:34 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.axios.com | Credit Suisse to borrow up to $54 billion from Switzerland's central bank | Mar 17 04:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in the US they have just "gives" almost .0.2 TRILLION | Mar 17 04:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | to corrupt banksters | Mar 17 04:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but it is NOT a bailout! | Mar 17 04:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | no sir! | Mar 17 04:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in my latest article in TR we talked about this in passing | Mar 17 04:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the pension boss and I | Mar 17 04:36 |
| techrights[sec] | My parents got partially cleaned out in 2008 by the fraud. They are still | Mar 17 04:37 |
| techrights[sec] | doing ok for nowm but lost much of what they had then. | Mar 17 04:37 |
| techrights[sec] | Does Oliva know the importance of not letting m$ write national strategy? | Mar 17 04:37 |
| techrights[sec] | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/03/15/1633247#1296627 | Mar 17 04:37 |
| techrights[sec] | (sorry two threads here concurrently) | Mar 17 04:37 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 2008 hit grandpa, which could not help his son, who was also badly hit | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | iirc, from 800,000 to DEBT | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | needed to 'borrow' from cousin | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 'borrow' (no expectation of paying it back) | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | at least that helped pay my tuition fees before 2008 | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but i _never forgot_ | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and here it is (apparently) happening again | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | unfolding befoire our eyes, gradually over weeks or months | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | like in 2008 | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we wrote about this in irc at the time | Mar 17 04:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | irc started in 2008 for us | Mar 17 04:41 |
| techrights[sec] | There's not a single university rep on that committee nor any FOSS projects | Mar 17 04:42 |
| techrights[sec] | or even FOSS sponsors | Mar 17 04:42 |
| techrights[sec] | Tuition fees are poisonous and student debt in the US is quite predatory | Mar 17 04:42 |
| techrights[sec] | Making matters worse is that it is except from bankruptcy so it is with you | Mar 17 04:42 |
| techrights[sec] | until you die. | Mar 17 04:42 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | "no, you are NOT retiring, the system will NOT permit you to do THAT" | Mar 17 04:42 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | "work, die" | Mar 17 04:42 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> CANNIBALISATION... to PRETEND everything is under control ☞ https://www.axios.com/2023/03/15/silicon-valley-is-working-with-wall-street-to-buy-some-svb-assets | Mar 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.axios.com | Silicon Valley is working with Wall Street to buy some SVB assets | Mar 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> There will be MORE bank runs ☞ https://www.axios.com/2023/03/15/progressives-and-bankers-are-both-blaming-fed-regulators-for-their-role-in-svbs-collapse | Mar 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.axios.com | SVB collapse: Progressives and bankers blame Fed regulators | Mar 17 04:45 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> The SVB Collapse: How financial crisis boosts the rise of CBDCs ☞ https://off-guardian.org/2023/03/15/the-svb-collapse-how-financial-crisis-boosts-the-rise-of-cbdcs/ | Mar 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- off-guardian.org | The SVB Collapse: How financial crisis boosts the rise of CBDCs – OffGuardian | Mar 17 04:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> "Chancellor overhauls pension tax rules to encourage older people to remain in work"... just WORK AND DIE ☞ https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/reforms-to-pension-tax-rules-set-to-give-savers-a-boost-aOnUI8V8OkUE | Mar 17 04:50 |
| techrights[sec] | The collapse creates a crisis which puts people's behavior into ... | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | ... crisis mode! | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | Then they are overwhelmed, easily manipulated, have no time over to press | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | on various issues, and most conveniently only respond to the most recent | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | stimulus which is something the mamagent then has control over. | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | Does Oliva know the importance of not letting m$ write national strategy? | Mar 17 04:51 |
| techrights[sec] | https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/03/15/1633247#1296627 | Mar 17 04:51 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | you should contact oliva | Mar 17 04:52 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i know little about all this | Mar 17 04:52 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and am not able to explain it so well | Mar 17 04:52 |
| techrights[sec] | Old people have a lot to add, but in most cases it is inappropriate to have them | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | in the work force. There are many inescapable problems related to physical | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | I have no contact information for Oliva. There is a PDF which lists M$ | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | as heading the committee. There's not much to explain. M$ is writing | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | the documents which will be used to regulate the industry it has been violating | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | for decades. | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | There's not much to say other than to point to the Appendix listing the | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | committee leads. :( | Mar 17 04:54 |
| techrights[sec] | Thanks! | Mar 17 04:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i will pass this on to him | Mar 17 04:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | done | Mar 17 04:56 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i did not want to open email | Mar 17 04:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i've not checked it for 2 days | Mar 17 04:57 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and probably had important mail to distract if not annoy me :-) | Mar 17 04:57 |
| techrights[sec] | I appreciate it. | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | GNU's 40th anniversary is coming up in the autumn, I wonder if it would be | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | possible to route an old fashioned letter with a card to RMS by then. | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | The inflation may not have happend on purpose but the foot-dragging in | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | working to bring it back down seems to be on purpose. There are too many | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | who gain from clearing the bank accounts of the "little people" as opposed | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | to the "big fish" who have inflation-proof "investments". | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | Opportunism strikes. | Mar 17 05:02 |
| techrights[sec] | I thought the courts had it settled, that it was illegal to prevent workers | Mar 17 05:07 |
| techrights[sec] | from discussing working conditions with each other? | Mar 17 05:07 |
| techrights[sec] | I had no job inteview | Mar 17 05:07 |
| techrights[sec] | Oh, a copy-paste. Wrong window? | Mar 17 05:07 |
| techrights[sec] | Excellent | Mar 17 05:10 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | maybe i should close thunderbird and get back to it in the weekend | Mar 17 05:11 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in order to catch up with rss feeds, i am 26 hours behind on it (!) | Mar 17 05:11 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and still have not published the epo material | Mar 17 05:11 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i will just scan the senders' name to see if there is something urgent | Mar 17 05:11 |
| techrights[sec] | That is a big step forward, those will require the government to actually taie | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | take action against him over that. | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | The post here does what it can to delay packages. They have added "handling | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | fees" and you cannot pay them unless you find the specific online form via | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | a web search engine. So now my package will sit an extra day in holding. | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | It should arrive next week some time if it does not wait an additional week | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | xxxx | Mar 17 05:20 |
| techrights[sec] | I just paid but only after the package stopped moving, so in all likelihood | Mar 17 05:21 |
| techrights[sec] | it will not be just a day but the whole weekend down in xxxx region. | Mar 17 05:21 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i will binge rss and catch up till middday, then epo, i hope | Mar 17 05:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | atm i target articles re svb and credit suisse | Mar 17 05:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | trying to figure out wtf is going on | Mar 17 05:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | (as do many others this past week) | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | Just skim but set aside to check later today, that would be my recommendation. | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | RMS seems to have a good way of working offline. Maybe you could exploit the | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | offline mode to update the messages just once per day but then work on the | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | day's batch without new messages disturbing? | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | I'd say EPO is the most important, anyone can do RSS feeds but few could even | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | begin to cover the EPO let alone have all the contact and collaborators. | Mar 17 05:24 |
| techrights[sec] | It might be possible to pin the latest round of bank failures on their | Mar 17 06:23 |
| techrights[sec] | irresponsble gamling on cryptocurrencies? | Mar 17 06:23 |
| techrights[sec] | https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/crypto-linked-bank-failures-fuel-regulation | Mar 17 06:23 |
| techrights[sec] | -debate/articleshow/98722895.cms | Mar 17 06:23 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | no, it ius a "bro" straw man | Mar 17 06:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | occam's razor: people cannot pay the mortgage, with high energy prices etc | Mar 17 06:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | banks have less inflow | Mar 17 06:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and fewer mortgages to sell etc etc | Mar 17 06:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the media uses the "woke" BS to distract from class issues | Mar 17 06:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | Fake journalism helps Microsoft portray this as a problem with Russia rather than a problem with Microsoft, which puts back doors in things; partisan politics is a low blow and misdirection, as if only Russians exploit Microsoft holes https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fixes-outlook-zero-day-used-by-russian-hackers-since-april-2022/ | Mar 17 06:26 |
| techrights[sec] | Much of what is being blamed on "inflation" is just companies gratuitously | Mar 17 06:27 |
| techrights[sec] | raisinng their prices. Here food prices have gone up a lot but the farmers | Mar 17 06:27 |
| techrights[sec] | are goiing out of business in droves because none of that is passed on to them | Mar 17 06:27 |
| techrights[sec] | while at the same time their expenses are goign through the roof | Mar 17 06:27 |
| techrights[sec] | The spin is always to distract away from m$ as the cause. | Mar 17 06:30 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | there are more examples with "Ed" comments in next TM and TR batches | Mar 17 06:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | had i not been so far behind, it would merit video/article | Mar 17 06:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | rianne got a lot of good news today | Mar 17 06:31 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i am catching up with FraudStreet news | Mar 17 06:31 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 06:34 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_howtos.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 06:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 06:36 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | rms talk this evening (night in Europe) https://www.fsf.org/events/talk-by-rms-on-march-17 | Mar 17 06:43 |
| techrights-news | RMS: A Tour of Malicious Software, With a Typical Cell Phone as Example | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/rms-talk-this-evening/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/rms-talk-this-evening/ | Mar 17 06:52 |
| techrights[sec] | 19:00 UTC | Mar 17 06:52 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): System76 Meerkat Alder Lake Linux mini PC ships with Ubuntu 22.04 or Pop!_OS 22.04 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/System76_Meerkat_Alder_Lake_Linux_mini_PC_ships_with_Ubuntu_22_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/System76_Meerkat_Alder_Lake_Linux_mini_PC_ships_with_Ubuntu_22_.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 06:54 |
| techrights[sec] | biab | Mar 17 07:02 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 07:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | passport office workers to strike for 5 weeks over pay dispute -- BillBC moments ago | Mar 17 07:04 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it'll start in April 3 | Mar 17 07:04 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | good they sent out rianne hers | Mar 17 07:04 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | thomspon webm to exceed 3k today | Mar 17 07:10 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | not that it matters much | Mar 17 07:10 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | gonna rush to atm and grab a grand, two people/cards, 4 withdrawals | Mar 17 07:10 |
| techrights[sec] | back | Mar 17 07:38 |
| techrights[sec] | http://techrights.org/irc-archives/irc-log-techrights-160323.html#tMar%2016%2009:58:40 | Mar 17 07:38 |
| techrights[sec] | posting private converstions in irc drives away correspondents | Mar 17 07:38 |
| techrights-news | IRC Proceedings: Thursday, March 16, 2023 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/irc-log-160323/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/irc-log-160323/ | Mar 17 07:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the physical passport arrived minutes ago! | Mar 17 07:51 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and I got 1000gbp out, my stamina improved a lot | Mar 17 07:51 |
| techrights[sec] | Excellent | Mar 17 07:51 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (UPDATED): Meet the Newest Member of Kali’s Family: The Purple Release ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/14/Meet_the_Newest_Member_of_Kali_s_Family_The_Purple_Release.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/14/Meet_the_Newest_Member_of_Kali_s_Family_The_Purple_Release.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 07:51 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 07:54 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the award for each "atm run" is 1000 quid | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | doing a 'run on the atm' 0_o | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | just checked the physical passport, even the photo is good | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i took it before her ceremony | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | they accept digital/file | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | workout, back in an hour | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | still trying to catch up with rss, got the wekeend to fall back on | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | bbl | Mar 17 08:03 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | back | Mar 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | based on what i see online lately | Mar 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ms fud against freesw or "linux" runs out of steam lately | Mar 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | wsl... barely even mentioned anymore | Mar 17 09:24 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | candidate for layofs | Mar 17 09:25 |
| techrights[sec] | They seem to be focusing their efforts in Washington DC instead as they | Mar 17 09:32 |
| techrights[sec] | have been gaining increasing control and influence over policy and leglislation | Mar 17 09:32 |
| techrights[sec] | Not just via LF and OSI. I meand actually on committees and in the offices | Mar 17 09:32 |
| techrights[sec] | of congressmen. Check the PDF posted earlier and scroll down to Appendix B | Mar 17 09:32 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yes, via LF, OSI etc. | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | lxo will look into it, i've drowned in things | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | not even inc. email | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so i just set things in the right order ans assume i have till sunday night to extinguish | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the way i do the pipeline now, i first pull rss | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then i register the new arrivals | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so i can pile up several days' worth | Mar 17 09:33 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and de--duplicate | Mar 17 09:33 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Debian project leader elections 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Debian_project_leader_elections_2023.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Debian_project_leader_elections_2023.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 09:36 |
| techrights-news | John Deere's ongoing GPL violations: What's next - Conservancy Blog - Software Freedom Conservancy ⚓ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/mar/16/john-deere-gpl-violations/ ䷉ Source: | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemi.dev/cgi-bin/waffle.cgi/view?https%3A//sfconservancy.org/blog/2023/mar/16/john-deere-gpl-violations/ | Mar 17 10:02 |
| techrights[sec] | router maint eta 30 min | Mar 17 10:04 |
| techrights[sec] | oops already done, never mind | Mar 17 10:04 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Amazon Linux 2023 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Amazon_Linux_2023.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Amazon_Linux_2023.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:10 |
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| techrights[sec] | back | Mar 17 10:13 |
| techrights[sec] | apropos lxo, the methods by microsofters seem to mirror closely those of the | Mar 17 10:13 |
| techrights[sec] | "taistolaiset" some decades ago in Finland; presumably similar countermeasures | Mar 17 10:13 |
| techrights[sec] | would work too; | Mar 17 10:13 |
| techrights[sec] | one of the more obnoxious tactics they used was to have a "member" on each | Mar 17 10:17 |
| techrights[sec] | project or committee which they could find, no matter how small or obscure | Mar 17 10:17 |
| techrights[sec] | it may be; that's a lot like m$ getting onto the various boards, especially | Mar 17 10:17 |
| techrights[sec] | ones like the former OLPC and the not-yet-defunct RPF | Mar 17 10:17 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yes | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i just saw another example | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and it's "hate" to turn them away | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i had some links i wanted to share, but if you read irc logs you might see what i wanted to say | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | biab | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | very far behind, got twoi days' work piled up :/ | Mar 17 10:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | at least i won't feel uproductive | Mar 17 10:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): FOSS Weekly, FOSS Top Sites, and OSI is Still Chronically Dysfunctional ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/FOSS_Weekly_FOSS_Top_Sites_and_OSI_is_Still_Chronically_Dysfunc.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/FOSS_Weekly_FOSS_Top_Sites_and_OSI_is_Still_Chronically_Dysfunc.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:18 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Security_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:19 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:19 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_howtos.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_howtos.1.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:20 |
| techrights[sec] | back in a few hours | Mar 17 10:28 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): John Deere's ongoing GPL violations: What's next ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/John_Deere_s_ongoing_GPL_violations_What_s_next.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/John_Deere_s_ongoing_GPL_violations_What_s_next.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:38 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Fedora and Red Hat Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Fedora_and_Red_Hat_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:38 |
| techrights-news | Links 17/03/2023: Update on John Deere’s Ongoing GPL Violations and PyTorch 2.0 | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/john-deere-ongoing-gpl-violations/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/john-deere-ongoing-gpl-violations/ | Mar 17 10:52 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LWN on Linux 6.3 and Rust APIs ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/LWN_on_Linux_6_3_and_Rust_APIs.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/LWN_on_Linux_6_3_and_Rust_APIs.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:53 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 10:53 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | under education andn under programming today you put numerous good links about docs | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i think rms is correct | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we have no lack of code | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in fact, we have abundance of projects that do the same thing | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | even gpl-licensed | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | where TM and TR step is is not just code | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but curation of news of interest, TR does some analysis of that too | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and that is (imho) a good contribution, i try to stay away from scandals that let them 'cancel' | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | us any more than conde nasty (reddit) tried | Mar 17 11:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 'scandals' like having a typo or using the 'wrong' font | Mar 17 11:06 |
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| techrights-news | GNU/Linux in Honduras: 10% Market Share? | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/honduras-gnu-linu/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/honduras-gnu-linu/ | Mar 17 11:22 |
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| techrights-news | ⚓ 170958 | ♾ Gemini address: 170958 | Mar 17 11:37 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Stable kernels: Linux 6.2.7, Linux 6.1.20, Linux 5.15.103, Linux 5.10.175, Linux 5.4.237, Linux 4.19.278 and Linux 4.14.310 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_2_7_Linux_6_1_20_Linux_5_15_103_Linux_5_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Stable_kernels_Linux_6_2_7_Linux_6_1_20_Linux_5_15_103_Linux_5_.gmi | Mar 17 12:36 |
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| techrights[sec] | backk | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | speaking of fonts, if I use the same print shop again I will have to enlighten\tthem about GPL'd fonts like Lib | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | eration and such so that the output looks better | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | next time. Some of the titles turned out poorly. Fortunately it does not | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | matter /this/ time but probably next time it will. I will also have to | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | reduce the type size next time too. What looks too small on the screen turns | Mar 17 13:01 |
| techrights[sec] | out to be way too big on paper. | Mar 17 13:01 |
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| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Games: Steam Deck, Starmancer, Slime 3K: Rise Against Despot ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Starmancer_Slime_3K_Rise_Against_Despot.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Games_Steam_Deck_Starmancer_Slime_3K_Rise_Against_Despot.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 13:16 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> ghana has issues, but EFF is managing to piss off many men and women who support the EFF by pissing on biology ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/civil-society-organizations-urge-ghanas-parliament-reject-repressive-anti-lgbtq | Source: EFF | Mar 17 13:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> EFF backs propaganda machine TikTok... awful, EFF, truly awful. Maybe you and ACLU also want to legalise heroin. ☛ https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/03/government-hasnt-justified-tiktok-ban | Source: EFF | Mar 17 13:33 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> Even a very small share of idiots at the EFF is enough to ruin the reputation of EFF and deter donors (this has already happened in recent years, based on their IRS filings) | Mar 17 13:33 |
| techrights[sec] | I certainly would not feel right donating to the EFF again until it improves. | Mar 17 13:35 |
| techrights[sec] | I gave for a while out inertia but did not appreciate how they were actively | Mar 17 13:35 |
| techrights[sec] | drawing the organization off course. | Mar 17 13:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we got over 20 cheese packs | Mar 17 13:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | including 10 camemberts | Mar 17 13:39 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | got lucky | Mar 17 13:39 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | <techrights-news> techdirt -- like koch sites (reason foundation; koch connected like techdirt) -- helps tiktok ☛ https://www.techdirt.com/2023/03/16/yes-the-us-government-threatening-to-block-tiktok-violates-the-1st-amendment/ | Source: Techdirt | Mar 17 13:58 |
| techrights[sec] | Camembert is very tasty! There has been none on discount for many weeks here | Mar 17 14:00 |
| techrights[sec] | and even then it is only 30% off. Though it takes me a week to go through | Mar 17 14:00 |
| techrights[sec] | a small wheel. How will you store 10 to keep them from going bad before they | Mar 17 14:00 |
| techrights[sec] | can be eaten? | Mar 17 14:00 |
| techrights[sec] | :( | Mar 17 14:00 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we start with mozerlla for breakingfast... cherry tomatos, avocado oil, mahi etc. | Mar 17 14:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then can finish camembert later in the day with ryvita | Mar 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we got these all laughably cheap, so it's luxury foods for pennies | Mar 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | lol, sorry for many typos | Mar 17 14:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | mozilla breaking the fast | Mar 17 14:02 |
| techrights[sec] | Sounds delicious | Mar 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we'll finish 3 or 4 packs today | Mar 17 14:07 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but it's the main course in all meals | Mar 17 14:07 |
| techrights[sec] | How big are the packs? It usually takes me a week to get through the smaller | Mar 17 14:14 |
| techrights[sec] | ones here. | Mar 17 14:14 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | about 200grams | Mar 17 14:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | tomorrow we can finish our stacks of saint agur | Mar 17 14:26 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | okay, it says 250grams | Mar 17 14:26 |
| techrights-news | Links 17/03/2023: Linux 6.2.7 and LibreSSL 3.7.1 Released | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/libressl-3-7-1-released/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/libressl-3-7-1-released/ | Mar 17 14:37 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 14:37 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Open Hardware/Modding: ESP3S3, Pi Pico, RP2040, and Hackaday ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_ESP3S3_Pi_Pico_RP2040_and_Hackaday.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Open_Hardware_Modding_ESP3S3_Pi_Pico_RP2040_and_Hackaday.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 14:53 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): LibreSSL 3.7.1 and Third Release Candidate of PowerDNS DNSdist 1.8 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/LibreSSL_3_7_1_and_Third_Release_Candidate_of_PowerDNS_DNSdist_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/LibreSSL_3_7_1_and_Third_Release_Candidate_of_PowerDNS_DNSdist_.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 14:53 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): Today's 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_leftovers.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 14:54 |
| techrights[sec] | Mmmm. I like them on bread with a little butter first and then some | Mar 17 14:58 |
| techrights[sec] | sliced 'flavor' tomatoes then about 5 seconds in the microwave. | Mar 17 14:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the "problem" we have is this, | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | there si too much to hurry with | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so we leave the bread in the freezer | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and then focus on luxury but almost expired stuff | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | that does not have freezable recomm' | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | we have a bit of a warehouse by now | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i reckon all this buckwheat is sanctioned and offloaded | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | likely from russia pre invasion | Mar 17 14:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i've just changed the scripts to append pas dates' stories too | Mar 17 15:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i now have 31k lines to go through... inc. some dupes | Mar 17 15:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | RSS.html in /tmp | Mar 17 15:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it's two days' worth appended | Mar 17 15:06 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | eliminating dupes there is not triavial | Mar 17 15:06 |
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| techrights[sec] | Can the duplicate removal process or scripts be improved? | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the brute force approach would be keep only first instance of each line that is identical | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but it would not be o(n) and it would have edge cases | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | what i want to do is this, | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | focus on certain feeds more | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | clear these while leaving intact less urgent feeds | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but desupe what's left aside | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | sort of like in graphical rss readers | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | but i don't know fully how to do this yet | Mar 17 15:15 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | brewing coffee at the moment and preparing for video while thinking how to do this | Mar 17 15:15 |
| techrights[sec] | Maybe the text could be processed and stored in an SQLite db and then | Mar 17 15:22 |
| techrights[sec] | the db used to save all future processing | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | hmm.. a more sophisticated verion would also go through the text db i have for previously | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | published links, then cull the links I published already | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | heck, that would kill two birds in one stone | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and would automate what i do by hand | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | grep links, compare to db , decapitate link if already posted | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | oh wait, it will only mark what was used, not what was SEEN/READ | Mar 17 15:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so another approach needed | Mar 17 15:22 |
| techrights[sec] | right. | Mar 17 15:23 |
| techrights[sec] | there /might/ be a way to work with the sqlite db used by mozilla, | Mar 17 15:23 |
| techrights[sec] | it has a little complicated structure though | Mar 17 15:23 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i think it would be 'overkill' | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | let me explain | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the file you see if about 12k lines of 2 days ago | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then the rest, about 18k, is for 1 day ago | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 12k as I did progress a bit on that date | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | there is lots of overlap, it keeps "past 48 hours" | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | (i know some dumb site publish things with old dates; that's their oversight) | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i can save time by culling a secong occurence of an item | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | or even just "mark" it | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | file: | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | x | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | y | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | x | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | z | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | becomes: | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | x | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | y | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | DUPE x | Mar 17 15:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | z | Mar 17 15:29 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): SUSE Linux Enterprise Micro 5.4 Public RC is out ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Micro_5_4_Public_RC_is_out.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/SUSE_Linux_Enterprise_Micro_5_4_Public_RC_is_out.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 15:30 |
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| techrights[sec] | Marking it would require sending the web page back to a waiting server-side | Mar 17 15:35 |
| techrights[sec] | script as a web form so that the server can then register the annotation in | Mar 17 15:35 |
| techrights[sec] | a db. | Mar 17 15:35 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i would rather keep the format simple, plain, and thus easy to work with in terminal and kate | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i already thought about splitting to multiple files, but then getting a list of all articles | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | about 'svb' would be harder | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | btw, i've 'paused' on links for a bit, would rather solve the thing before doing repeated work | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | also thinking how to present the epo material | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it is almost weekend | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | did some exercise, massage etc. | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | eureka moment, this is a good chance to combine the files | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the flatfiles from both programs, yours and mine | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then process them | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | your program deals ok with some feeds mine cannot | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i will delay epo for a bit and start experimenting | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | this can save hundreds of hours per year | Mar 17 15:45 |
| techrights[sec] | How much does readership decrease on Friday + weekend? | Mar 17 15:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | re > | Mar 17 15:46 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): 𝘛𝘶𝘹 𝘔𝘢𝘤𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴: Google Android Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.2.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/17/Android_Leftovers.2.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 15:52 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | re > | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i never checked (if you mean tr and tm), i always release any time or day i have it | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i'm not a business, i just release info as soon as possible and move on | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | having said that, the po material is not explosive enough to be urgent | Mar 17 16:01 |
| techrights[sec] | Duplicate checking should be automated since the URL is a fairly useful unique | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | or rot quickly | Mar 17 16:01 |
| techrights[sec] | identifier to sort on. | Mar 17 16:01 |
| techrights[sec] | How much does readership decrease on Friday + weekend? | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | hence i delayed it yesterday, focused on pensions | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i want to get the rss workflow right | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | still far away from being suitable for git add | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it is about 6 scripts, stream processors mostly | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 2916 on thompson webm | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i paused all link-posting | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | rms talk in some hours | Mar 17 16:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i want to code a bit | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | in order to more effectively curate and write | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | all this news, general news, took up so much time | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | that i was unable to record and write | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it was fun while it lasted, but i need to rethinking this approach | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | *rethink | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i also spend like 30 mins a day manutlaly dupe-checking | Mar 17 16:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | how is this | Mar 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | cut to start of link acnchor text | Mar 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | search for duplicates | Mar 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | remove all occurences except the first | Mar 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | after chaining together output from both programs | Mar 17 16:29 |
| techrights[sec] | I'm not sure of the context. | Mar 17 16:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | awk '!seen[$0]++' RSS.html > RSS2.html | Mar 17 16:44 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | diff RSS2.html RSS.html | Mar 17 16:44 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | ls -la RSS2.html RSS.html | Mar 17 16:44 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -rw-r--r-- 1 roy roy 2694401 Mar 17 16:32 RSS2.html | Mar 17 16:44 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | -rw-r--r-- 1 roy roy 3494632 Mar 17 15:52 RSS.html | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | mind sizes | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | checking manually | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yay, that seems to work | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | from 30k lines to 11k | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i've put both files on /tmp | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the before and after | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | seems i did not correctly upload RSS.html earlier | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | so you never saw it | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | going to do a 'pilot' posting from rss2.html and see how it goes | Mar 17 16:45 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | oh, i can prepend previous days' archives | Mar 17 16:52 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | to improve de-duplication | Mar 17 16:52 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | sorry to burden or encumber you with all this, but this excites me as that can save a whole lot of time | Mar 17 16:55 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and make the mind work at ease, also more fits in the screen so digestion is vastly more efficient | Mar 17 16:55 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the files are used for 1) posting (first line) 2) adding to daily links | Mar 17 17:00 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | with one click on the mouse | Mar 17 17:00 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | subject to trimming/editing | Mar 17 17:00 |
| techrights[sec] | checking | Mar 17 17:00 |
| techrights[sec] | So the files are not HTML but the do have consistent string patterns around | Mar 17 17:00 |
| techrights[sec] | the URLs. It's doable with regex in Perl | Mar 17 17:00 |
| techrights[sec] | No worries, it just it's important to think about what needs to be processed. | Mar 17 17:00 |
| techrights[sec] | The URLs can be extracted from those files. | Mar 17 17:00 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | see outlines2.html | Mar 17 17:01 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | yes, the next stage would be... | Mar 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | [uploads file] | Mar 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | see outlines2.html | Mar 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | de-supe against those kinds of files, derived from rrrrr outfile files | Mar 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | clustering them properly will be a long-term task | Mar 17 17:02 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i can deal with outlines-x-.html separately in the same way | Mar 17 17:09 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | rather than fuse the two types of files | Mar 17 17:09 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | with awk | Mar 17 17:09 |
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| techrights[sec] | TheReg now also has a trascript of Ken Thompson's answer about Raspbian: | Mar 17 17:17 |
| techrights[sec] | https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/17/ken_thompson_is_a_maccie/ | Mar 17 17:17 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | good, it's possible they saw it in TR | Mar 17 17:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 4.1k youtube views yesterday | Mar 17 17:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 3000+ in TR | Mar 17 17:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | some forum post | Mar 17 17:18 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | anyway, more people find out | Mar 17 17:18 |
| techrights[sec] | I would guess that they did see it there | Mar 17 17:20 |
| techrights[sec] | More coverage of that is always good. | Mar 17 17:20 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | just added this link to TM | Mar 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | later it'll be in TR daily links | Mar 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | I'm starting to catch up, wondering whether to record re EPO as well | Mar 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i've not covered gemini much lately | Mar 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | gemini is not "progressing" | Mar 17 17:22 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it's not "evolving" :) | Mar 17 17:22 |
| techrights-news | ➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW): The Person Who Created UNIX Has Abandoned It and Is Now Moving to Debian GNU/Linux (Raspbian) ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/16/The_Person_Who_Created_UNIX_Has_Abandoned_It_and_Is_Now_Moving_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/03/16/The_Person_Who_Created_UNIX_Has_Abandoned_It_and_Is_Now_Moving_.gmi ∎ | Mar 17 17:22 |
| techrights[sec] | It's not often that mainstream articles have transcripts. It's very good | Mar 17 17:23 |
| techrights[sec] | that they added it. | Mar 17 17:23 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | cat RSS.html RSS2.html [...] | awk... >RSS-latest | Mar 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | that would eliminatestuff previously gone through | Mar 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 48-hour window | Mar 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i think i'm almost there now | Mar 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | later i shall do the same with "outlines" | Mar 17 17:28 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | prob. this weekend | Mar 17 17:28 |
| techrights[sec] | In about 1.5 hours there will the RMS stream. I'm not sure I can attend. | Mar 17 17:28 |
| techrights[sec] | It might not be the best idea. Perhaps take written notes and then | Mar 17 17:37 |
| techrights[sec] | comment afterwards. | Mar 17 17:37 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | should i do a recording of it with me speaking along or would it be unrespectable? | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | *dis | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i asked rianne the same question | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | had asked | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | before i asked you | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | she said it would be okay | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i think i will record epo in a moment | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | then, tune in to fsf | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | adjust for quality | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | for "fair use" add only minima remarks | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | upload at end | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | brb coffeee | Mar 17 17:41 |
| techrights[sec] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Science_Theater_3000 | Mar 17 17:41 |
| techrights[sec] | Myself I've not ever been a fan of talking over another show or speaker. | Mar 17 17:41 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | the idea is not to talk _over_ | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | just a sort of foreword | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and maybe remarks during silent periods | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | fsf can take over a week to upload to peertube, mediagoblin etc. | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | with obs i can get very decent recording quality now | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it records directly from the sound system | Mar 17 17:43 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | and good frame rate | Mar 17 17:43 |
| techrights[sec] | Mar 17 17:44 | |
| techrights[sec] | old: https://www.theregister.com/2010/04/21/ken_thompson_take_our_test/ | Mar 17 17:44 |
| techrights[sec] | It'd say an uncommented recording might be good so that it can be published | Mar 17 17:46 |
| techrights[sec] | immediately and beat FSF by a week or three on that. Then make a followup with | Mar 17 17:46 |
| techrights[sec] | commentary and such. | Mar 17 17:46 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i agree | Mar 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | 1:15 left | Mar 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i will start epo video in about 25 mins | Mar 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | it's easier to do videos in batches/bulk | Mar 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i dnnot think oif any other urgent topics to cover atm | Mar 17 17:47 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | getting remaining bewed coffee | Mar 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | will be OTA in 5 mins | Mar 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | uploading of videos is almost automated | Mar 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | gives us a bit edge | Mar 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | OTA | Mar 17 17:59 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | epo vid done | Mar 17 18:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | stream live, but showing just blank for now | Mar 17 18:29 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | typing up the epo article | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | vonick transcoding | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | bubi waiting for fsf | Mar 17 18:30 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | https://www.fsf.org/live | Mar 17 18:30 |
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| techrights[sec] | RMS is talking now, I hope I can stay online through to the end of the | Mar 17 19:25 |
| techrights[sec] | presentation | Mar 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | added a draft thaty does not assume much about reader's knowledge about epo | Mar 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | repetition does not harm | Mar 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | waitinf for rms to show up | Mar 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i record the whole thing | Mar 17 19:25 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | will upload before the Q&A starts | Mar 17 19:25 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | done, uploading | Mar 17 19:53 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | see draft | Mar 17 19:53 |
| techrights[sec] | Excellent. It's still Q&A atm | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | His answers are sharp but the questions have been lame so far | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | checking | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Good that there are some quotes. I'm not sure I can get to a transcript | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | tomorrow | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | The important component is as he has been repeating: just vs unjust software | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | not convenience | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Excellent. It's still Q&A atm | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | His answers are sharp but the questions have been lame so far | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | checking | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | Good that there are some quotes. I'm not sure I can get to a transcript | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | tomorrow | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | The important component is as he has been repeating: just vs unjust software | Mar 17 19:56 |
| techrights[sec] | not convenience | Mar 17 19:57 |
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| schestowitz-pi2 | i also have epo draft | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | that upload is nearly finished | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | i de-prioritised links today, rianne covered TM | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | this current question from the lady and the "A" are good | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | about the next 40 years | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | Techrights can do another 40 years | Mar 17 19:58 |
| schestowitz-pi2 | even if the WWW collapses by then | Mar 17 19:58 |
| techrights[sec] | afk | Mar 17 20:21 |
| techrights-news | The European Patent Office’s Central Staff Committee Explains the Situation at the EPO to the ’Yes Men’ of António Campinos (Who is Stacking All the Panels) | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/central-staff-committee-on-team-campinos/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/central-staff-committee-on-team-campinos/ | Mar 17 20:58 |
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| techrights-news | Links 17/03/2023: CentOS Newsletter and News About ’Mr. UNIX’ Ken Thompson Hopping on GNU/Linux | Techrights ⚓ http://techrights.org/2023/03/17/centos-newsletter/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/03/17/centos-newsletter/ | Mar 17 21:25 |
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