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techrights-newsTechrights — Welcome to the New Techrights ⇨ https://techrights.org/ | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/ ∎Aug 18 01:55
techrights-newsTechrights – Gemini Links 18/08/2024: Far-right and Second Gemlog ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Gemini_Links_18_08_2024_Far_right_and_Second_Gemlog.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Gemini_Links_18_08_2024_Far_right_and_Second_Gemlog.gmi ∎Aug 18 01:55
techrights-newsTechrights – Arjen Kamphuis asked me for protection from Debian before disappearance ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Arjen_Kamphuis_asked_me_for_protection_from_Debian_before_disap.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Arjen_Kamphuis_asked_me_for_protection_from_Debian_before_disap.gmi ∎Aug 18 02:05
schestowitz-pi2> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > The European Commission has some initiatives regarding 'Digital IdentityAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > Wallets' and a window of opportunity for feedback is open from yesterdayAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > (12 August) until 9 Sept 2024 regarding one of them.  The one initiativeAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > has five subactivities, listed below and in the forwarded message.Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > – integrity and core functionalitiesAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > – person identification data and electronic attestationsAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    >   of attributesAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > – protocols and interfaces to be supportedAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > – certificationAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2>    > – trust frameworkAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> I would be able to comment on this if someone who knows it thoroughlyAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> were to explain it to me in terms I can understand.  To study theAug 18 02:28
schestowitz-pi2> documents myself is not feasible.Aug 18 02:29
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:29
schestowitz-pi2> Can you find someone who would know a lot about thisAug 18 02:29
schestowitz-pi2> and could explain to me enough that I could think about it?Aug 18 02:29
schestowitz-pi2> Aug 18 02:29
schestowitz-pi2> -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)Aug 18 02:29
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schestowitz-pi2<Sompi_> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica3/technocracy60.htmAug 18 02:39
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- www.bibliotecapleyades.net | The Tyranny of Convenience - The Gravest Danger to Your Liberty is Your  ComplacencyAug 18 02:39
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz[TR2]> on the surface, reasonable premiseAug 18 02:39
schestowitz-pi2* schestowitz[TR2] opens to readAug 18 02:39
schestowitz-pi2<schestowitz[TR2]> promising headline, body not as goodAug 18 02:39
techrights-newsTechrights – IRC Proceedings: Saturday, August 17, 2024 ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_August_17_2024.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/IRC_Proceedings_Saturday_August_17_2024.gmi ∎Aug 18 02:45
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Today in Techrights ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Aug 18 02:46
techrights-newsTechrights – Over at Tux Machines... ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Over_at_Tux_Machines.gmi ∎Aug 18 02:47
techrightsec5Do you know how we can find anyone versed in the politics or technologyAug 18 03:22
techrightsec5enough to make a simplified explanation of the European Digital Identity                   Aug 18 03:22
techrightsec5Wallets Initiative to RMS?  He requested a summary of it from someone whoAug 18 03:22
techrightsec5knows it thoroughly as it is not feasible for him to study the documentsAug 18 03:22
techrightsec5about it personally.  Aug 18 03:22
schestowitz-pi2i cannot think of a suitable person/sAug 18 03:23
schestowitz-pi2try https://ffii.org/author/arebentisch/Aug 18 03:23
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techrightsec5Would you have contact info for Andr   ?Aug 18 03:29
schestowitz-pi2it has been years since we last correspondedAug 18 03:30
techrights-newsTechrights – Free Software and the Link to Feminism, Free Speech, and Activism Online ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Free_Software_and_the_Link_to_Feminism_Free_Speech_and_Activism.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Free_Software_and_the_Link_to_Feminism_Free_Speech_and_Activism.gmi ∎Aug 18 03:30
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schestowitz-pi2just realised gemini://gemini.techrights.org/videos/ is no longer updatingAug 18 03:46
schestowitz-pi2i forgot how it workedAug 18 03:46
techrightsec5Ok, I'll write to their Berlin office.  Would you like a Bcc: ?Aug 18 03:47
techrightsec5can check in bit, would you like a bcc?       Aug 18 03:47
techrightsec5Ok.  Finishing the letter with bcc and then I can check the Gemini videosAug 18 03:47
schestowitz-pi2yes, plsAug 18 03:47
techrightsec5checking videos nowAug 18 03:50
schestowitz-pi2thanks, a lot of functionality from the home-hosting was never restoredAug 18 03:51
schestowitz-pi2only as it was not a high priority at the timeAug 18 03:51
schestowitz-pi2the clues are in the programs and cron jobsAug 18 03:51
schestowitz-pi2no new code needs to be written, just processes restored and then testedAug 18 03:51
schestowitz-pi2like the lists of irc logs, bulletins etc.Aug 18 03:51
schestowitz-pi2also some git-related pagesAug 18 03:52
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techrights-newsTechrights – Only 1 in 50 Gemini Capsules Uses Let's Encrypt, the Certificate Authority That's Falsely Presented as 'Free' ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Only_1_in_50_Gemini_Capsules_Uses_Let_s_Encrypt_the_Certificate.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Only_1_in_50_Gemini_Capsules_Uses_Let_s_Encrypt_the_Certificate.gmi ∎Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5"""Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of itsAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5  berlin@ffii.orgAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5    host vic.ffii.org [5.226.149.169]Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5    retry timeout exceededAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5Reporting-MTA: dns; duik.vrijschrift.orgAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5Action: failedAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5Final-Recipient: rfc822;berlin@ffii.orgAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5Status: 5.0.0Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5Remote-MTA: dns; vic.ffii.orgAug 18 04:00
techrightsec5"""Aug 18 04:00
techrightsec5^ what now?Aug 18 04:01
techrightsec5They have a broken address.  Aug 18 04:01
techrightsec5Do you have another contact point there?Aug 18 04:01
schestowitz-pi2try zoobabAug 18 04:01
schestowitz-pi2via ffii or @gmailAug 18 04:01
schestowitz-pi2https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2024-08/index.htmlAug 18 04:03
schestowitz-pi2no msgs this month :/Aug 18 04:03
schestowitz-pi2excellent, iwanted to add that link to my latest postAug 18 04:05
schestowitz-pi2but it was about JS mainlyAug 18 04:05
techrightsec5I've re-added the video refreshing script to the work flow.  Not sure howAug 18 04:06
techrightsec5it was missed before.  Aug 18 04:06
schestowitz-pi2i wonder what's behind TM getting more trafficAug 18 04:07
schestowitz-pi2don't want to violate privacy by checking too muchAug 18 04:07
schestowitz-pi2i am leavinf for the market soonAug 18 04:07
techrightsec5zoobab@ffii.org bounced, tooAug 18 04:07
techrightsec5what about zoobab@gmail.com?  Can you confirm that is the right address?Aug 18 04:07
schestowitz-pi2that's correctAug 18 04:07
schestowitz-pi2they outsource too muchAug 18 04:07
techrightsec5thanksAug 18 04:07
schestowitz-pi2i realise the github and TOS series are NOT urgent at allAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2and trying to rush them through would compromise timing, relevance, qualityAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2and those are rare commoditiesAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2i will focus on market, health etc todayAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2yetserday had quality time outAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2which she appreciated a lotAug 18 04:10
schestowitz-pi2i even wore a suitAug 18 04:11
schestowitz-pi2so she said I looked like in 2011Aug 18 04:11
techrightsec5Hast makes waste, as they sayAug 18 04:11
techrightsec5I wonder if the zoobab@gmail.com address will work.  GMail addresses neverAug 18 04:11
techrightsec5bounce messages, but they do quietly block the messages somehow.  Aug 18 04:11
schestowitz-pi2you can see his address by googling itAug 18 04:11
schestowitz-pi2fmail = postcards, no envelopesAug 18 04:12
schestowitz-pi2*gmailAug 18 04:12
techrightsec5Nice.  Aug 18 04:13
techrightsec5Yes, but GMail is *far* from reliable these days.  I sent it.  There is no Aug 18 04:13
techrightsec5bounce message, but it is still far from certain that he actually gets it.  Aug 18 04:13
techrightsec5Today is Sunday, so if I get no reply today or early tomorrow, then I'll Aug 18 04:13
techrightsec5try calling their phone line.  :(Aug 18 04:13
schestowitz-pi2he seems burned outAug 18 04:13
schestowitz-pi2we used mumbleAug 18 04:13
schestowitz-pi2he installed it on androidAug 18 04:13
techrightsec5Excellent about mumble, but too bad about the burn out.   The few thatAug 18 04:14
techrightsec5are doing anything, or even aware at all, have far to much of a burden.Aug 18 04:14
techrightsec5And the title of the lame article  warning about complacency was spot on evenAug 18 04:14
techrightsec5if the article itself fell short.Aug 18 04:14
schestowitz-pi2he provides for 3 mouthsAug 18 04:15
schestowitz-pi2and lives in a city of... well, diversityAug 18 04:15
techrightsec5Updated latest in 2008: http://www.ffii.se/Aug 18 04:15
schestowitz-pi2bosson barely activeAug 18 04:16
schestowitz-pi2our goal is to make the opponents burn out before we doAug 18 04:17
schestowitz-pi2it's an endurance game Aug 18 04:17
schestowitz-pi210+ years against EPO crimeAug 18 04:17
techrightsec5Active lately: https://effi.org/Aug 18 04:17
schestowitz-pi2they also fight resources with lawyers Aug 18 04:18
schestowitz-pi2remember what cringely said about losingAug 18 04:18
schestowitz-pi2just to ensure you do tooAug 18 04:18
schestowitz-pi2ur's a nasty gameAug 18 04:18
schestowitz-pi2*it'sAug 18 04:18
schestowitz-pi2http://techrights.org/n/2024/07/03/The_Father_John_Shipton_The_Goal_of_The_US_Government_Was_to_Ba.shtmlAug 18 04:18
techrightsec5The contact info is wrong, missing, or out of date:                                     Aug 18 04:19
techrightsec5https://effi.org/yhdistys/hallitus/Aug 18 04:19
schestowitz-pi2i assume JoinUp is more of less deadAug 18 04:20
schestowitz-pi2and gilles or gjivs or whatever is not there anymoreAug 18 04:20
schestowitz-pi2biabAug 18 04:21
schestowitz-pi2must prepare thingsAug 18 04:21
schestowitz-pi2and organise the headAug 18 04:21
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techrights-newsTechrights – OFTC Lost Almost Two Thirds of Its Users in 5 Weeks ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/OFTC_Lost_Almost_Two_Thirds_of_Its_Users_in_5_Weeks.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/OFTC_Lost_Almost_Two_Thirds_of_Its_Users_in_5_Weeks.gmi ∎Aug 18 04:45
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techrights-newsTechrights – Three Years After Its Release Vista 11 Accounts for Only 2% of the Market in Gabon ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Three_Years_After_Its_Release_Vista_11_Accounts_for_Only_2_of_t.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Three_Years_After_Its_Release_Vista_11_Accounts_for_Only_2_of_t.gmi ∎Aug 18 05:00
techrights-newsTechrights – Bruce Perens on What Ubuntu (or Mark Shuttleworth) Did to Debian, Which He Led After Ian Murdock (the Original Ian in Deb-Ian) ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Bruce_Perens_on_What_Ubuntu_or_Mark_Shuttleworth_Did_to_Debian_.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Bruce_Perens_on_What_Ubuntu_or_Mark_Shuttleworth_Did_to_Debian_.gmi ∎Aug 18 05:17
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techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] The EULA of the Web Era (Changes as You Go Along) ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Meme_The_EULA_of_the_Web_Era_Changes_as_You_Go_Along.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Meme_The_EULA_of_the_Web_Era_Changes_as_You_Go_Along.gmi ∎Aug 18 05:37
techrights-newsTechrights – They Are Turning the Web Into an 'App Store' (Censorship), Gemini Rejects This Agenda ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/They_Are_Turning_the_Web_Into_an_App_Store_Censorship_Gemini_Re.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/They_Are_Turning_the_Web_Into_an_App_Store_Censorship_Gemini_Re.gmi ∎Aug 18 06:19
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techrights-newsTechrights – In Pakistan, Only One in 6 Windows Users is Using the Latest Windows (Vista 11) ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/In_Pakistan_Only_One_in_6_Windows_Users_is_Using_the_Latest_Win.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/In_Pakistan_Only_One_in_6_Windows_Users_is_Using_the_Latest_Win.gmi ∎Aug 18 06:37
techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Best Free and Open Source Software ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Best_Free_and_Open_Source_Software.gmi ∎Aug 18 06:45
techrights-newsTechrights – [Meme] Until systemd is Over 10 Million Lines of Spaghetti Code That Nobody Understands ⇨ https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Meme_Until_systemd_is_Over_10_Million_Lines_of_Spaghetti_Code_T.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Meme_Until_systemd_is_Over_10_Million_Lines_of_Spaghetti_Code_T.gmi ∎Aug 18 06:54
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techrights-news➲ 𝕿𝖚𝖝 𝕸𝖆𝖈𝖍𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖘 ⨦ (NEW):  Labwc 0.8 Wayland Compositor Released ⇨ https://tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Labwc_0_8_Wayland_Compositor_Released.shtml | ♾ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2024/08/18/Labwc_0_8_Wayland_Compositor_Released.gmi ∎Aug 18 09:06
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techrightsec5tweaked the introductory sentence in index.shtml Aug 18 09:51
techrightsec5router maint, eta 30 min Aug 18 09:51
techrightsec5backAug 18 09:56
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schestowitz-pi2very veyr challenging finding good dealsAug 18 09:58
schestowitz-pi2without knowing where to check you'd be empty-handedAug 18 09:58
schestowitz-pi2even at 7amAug 18 09:58
schestowitz-pi2we're liks an office now, with several large first aid kits and fire extinguishing kitsAug 18 09:58
schestowitz-pi2i grabbed 6 boxes of snacks, about 150 packs in themAug 18 09:58
schestowitz-pi2but "normal" food is rareAug 18 09:58
techrightsec5wowAug 18 09:59
techrightsec5ouchAug 18 09:59
techrightsec5Apropos Let's Encrypt:Aug 18 09:59
techrightsec5gemini://gemini.techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/They_Are_Turning_the_Web_Into_an_App_Store_Censorship_Gemini_Re.gmi              Aug 18 09:59
techrightsec5The python library in use by RRRRRR does not allow self-signed certs to beAug 18 09:59
techrightsec5recognized.  Many libraries became like that some years ago already.  Aug 18 09:59
schestowitz-pi2you need to pass special options to wget and curlAug 18 09:59
techrightsec5yes, them tooAug 18 10:01
techrightsec5and chromium (and derivatives) do not allow access even with a warningAug 18 10:01
techrightsec5FF still does ... for nowAug 18 10:01
schestowitz-pi2topic changeAug 18 10:04
schestowitz-pi2not worrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrried about the foodAug 18 10:04
schestowitz-pi2we have a backlog or rather pileupAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2about 6 months' worthAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2another auctioneer might turn up   Aug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2or turn out to existAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2the previous one was across the road from usAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2selling massive quantities to vendorsAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2till it lost too muchAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2we gained from its losses, i guessAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2bidding prices didn't reach high enoughAug 18 10:05
schestowitz-pi2so you could end up picking it 90% off RRPAug 18 10:05
techrightsec5"""Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5Bruce Perens: Make sure your presence is know independent of Ubuntu and this is a horrible tragedy to Debian because Debian guys they make Ubuntu.  Ok. Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5 Ubuntu puts frosting on what Debian does to a very great extent.  And does anyone even care about Debian any more?  Yeah.  Ok.  So.  There's a little dAug 18 10:21
techrightsec5ifference between you guys and everybody outside of the room.  Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5"""Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5https://techrights.org/n/2024/08/18/Bruce_Perens_on_What_Ubuntu_or_Mark_Shuttleworth_Did_to_Debian_.shtmlAug 18 10:21
techrightsec5Not sure about why the part from "Yeah" onward was included in the cut.Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5(short transcript above)Aug 18 10:21
techrightsec5 Aug 18 10:21
schestowitz-pi2thanks, shall i edit it in?Aug 18 10:21
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techrightsec5 sureAug 18 10:37
techrightsec5biabAug 18 10:37
techrightsec5s/know/known/Aug 18 11:08
schestowitz-pi2fixedAug 18 11:08
techrightsec5thanks! Aug 18 11:12
schestowitz-pi2we've given names to some of ther bird becauser they act differentlyAug 18 11:14
schestowitz-pi2one is very talkativeAug 18 11:14
schestowitz-pi2related to what we addressed yesterday:Aug 18 11:14
schestowitz-pi2https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/jobs/hr-policies-trends/rip-dream-how-the-allure-of-a-dream-job-is-fading-for-gen-z/articleshow/112594562.cms?from=mdrAug 18 11:14
schestowitz-pi2some people i know "left" intel Aug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2my dad said they probably got the bootAug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2as he knows themAug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2and GAFAM works people 50% more than the contractAug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2they know they might find nothing elsewhereAug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2that's like 33% paycut (in my books)Aug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2and too much stressAug 18 11:18
techrightsec5checkingAug 18 11:18
techrightsec5"ibig tech is as unstable as working in a startup, "Aug 18 11:18
techrightsec5I can't see why anyone would think of working for such a company as a goalAug 18 11:18
techrightsec5Those companies, esp m$, sucked badly even in the 1990s.  Except Google.Aug 18 11:18
techrightsec5It was apparently great the first few yearsAug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2and the kids don't see the parentsAug 18 11:18
techrightsec5Then there is the commute on top of that.  Aug 18 11:18
schestowitz-pi2gulag chased me 3+ times over the yearsAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2different rolesAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2the third time it was when they canceled the chef stuffAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2their recruitment "sweetener"Aug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2android/OHA was newAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2the commute is not just timeAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2it's more time to work, to pay for a decent car, parking etc.Aug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2and then worry about the car and about the parkingAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2their offices tend to be located in places that demand a carAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2no train/bike/walkAug 18 11:21
schestowitz-pi2some companies "offer" a car (leasing), but they keep the car so you still lose a lot of time, have more chores, and it's DIY "taxi", they mightAug 18 11:24
schestowitz-pi2be better off getting a taxi for you, but then you would not get to pretend to mates you own "a car"Aug 18 11:24
schestowitz-pi2it's also hard to get work done in a taxi, you might vomitAug 18 11:24
schestowitz-pi2the expensive ones, yes, it's possibleAug 18 11:24
schestowitz-pi2but very expensiveAug 18 11:24
techrightsec5The commute saps health, both physical and mental, plus that time does notAug 18 11:25
techrightsec5come back, it is lost.  Wasted.Aug 18 11:25
techrightsec5"5th Finnish volunteer fighter reported killed in Ukraine"Aug 18 11:25
techrightsec5https://yle.fi/a/74-20105643Aug 18 11:25
techrightsec5Taxis are also a waste but maybe more cost-effective than owning a car            Aug 18 11:25
techrightsec5nonetheless Aug 18 11:25
schestowitz-pi2depends on length of journey and how many times a week (x2 , round trip)Aug 18 11:27
schestowitz-pi2and which country, what salary etc.Aug 18 11:27
schestowitz-pi2but really, letting those who can  work from home stay home makes senseAug 18 11:27
schestowitz-pi2but some BS jobs depend on people not working from homeAug 18 11:27
techrightsec5I'm actually reading "Bullshit Jobs" these days. Aug 18 11:31
techrightsec5OT: one of my sarracenia just captured a very noisy small fly.  It wasAug 18 11:31
techrightsec5buzzing loudly but has now probably enter the pitcher's enzyme-laden water.Aug 18 11:31
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techrightsec5IIRC it was SARS-CoV-2 which got him (Graeber, not the fly)Aug 18 11:35
schestowitz-pi2I FORGOT why he diedAug 18 11:36
schestowitz-pi2hopefully not stressAug 18 11:36
schestowitz-pi2 necrotic pancreatitis wikigates saysAug 18 11:36
techrightsec5Interesting.   So many in tech are taken out by pancreatic problems,Aug 18 11:41
techrightsec5FWIWAug 18 11:41
techrightsec5grep | wc can be replaced with grep -c aloneAug 18 11:41
techrightsec5Even on OpenBSDAug 18 11:41
techrightsec5Graeber wasn't in tech, but many who were got taken out by pancrease relatedAug 18 11:41
techrightsec5problems.  Aug 18 11:41
schestowitz-pi2i think i was the least genetically "ungifted" in my familyAug 18 11:42
schestowitz-pi2mumble reaffirmed this yesterdayAug 18 11:42
schestowitz-pi2eyesight, earing, blood pressure, cholesterol etcAug 18 11:42
schestowitz-pi2just need to keep the weight in checkAug 18 11:42
schestowitz-pi2and not let mcirosofters rock the boatAug 18 11:42
schestowitz-pi2pocock looks about 10 years older than he isAug 18 11:44
techrightsec5Yes, stress is very hard on people, that is why it is so widely weaponizedAug 18 12:04
techrightsec5over the ages to destroy opponents or coerce people into toeing the line.  Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5 Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5Is there a way to install this one without resorting to the 'Docker' blobs?Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5https://github.com/immich-app/immichAug 18 12:04
techrightsec5Yes, it's m$ github.  I am bringing it up in that a docker blob which contains Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5otherwise uninstallable junk is effectively proprietary regardless of Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5what the license is purported to be.Aug 18 12:04
techrightsec5https://docs.docker.com/compose/install/Aug 18 12:04
schestowitz-pi2i was outsideAug 18 12:05
schestowitz-pi2sorry, rianne links to the immich newsAug 18 12:05
schestowitz-pi2i don't know much about itAug 18 12:05
techrightsec5Right.  Immich is just an example or case study.  The question is,Aug 18 12:19
techrightsec5are packages which are /only/ available as Docker blobs actually FLOSS or not?Aug 18 12:19
techrightsec5I'd say not.  As for packages which are so complex and obfuscated, like Aug 18 12:19
techrightsec5systemd, they do not fulfill the spirit of any FLOSS licensing they mayAug 18 12:19
techrightsec5claim to follow.   Aug 18 12:19
techrightsec5If one cannot build/make/compile a package from the ostensible sourceAug 18 12:19
techrightsec5then the source is in practice *not* available and that is a violation Aug 18 12:19
techrightsec5of even the most basic licenses.  Aug 18 12:19
schestowitz-pi2figosdev (now RIGHTY in IRC) said 5th freedom is freedom to NOT use somethingAug 18 12:22
schestowitz-pi2not the same as ability to compile etc.Aug 18 12:22
techrightsec5*yes* that is very true, has figosdev contacted Bruce Perens about thatAug 18 12:22
techrightsec5in the context of his Post-Open licensing?Aug 18 12:22
techrightsec5https://postopen.org/Aug 18 12:22
schestowitz-pi2body says get sleepAug 18 12:23
schestowitz-pi2biabAug 18 12:23
schestowitz-pi2i cannot be productive like thisAug 18 12:23
techrightsec5s/figosdev/righty/Aug 18 12:23
techrightsec5npAug 18 12:23
techrightsec5out to pick berries here for a whileAug 18 12:23
schestowitz-pi2<li><h5><a href="https://eng.lsm.lv/article/society/defense/16.08.2024-dont-risk-your-life-for-a-mushroom-military-police-advise.a565247/">Don't risk your life for a mushroom, military police advise</a></h5><blockquote>As the mushroom picking season gets into full swing, people often break the rules at risk to their health and lives in order to get their hands on wild mushrooms. Almost every day, military police detain a mushroom picker or a Aug 18 12:24
schestowitz-pi2berry picker in the Ādaži base, Latvian Television reported on August 15.</blockquote></li> Aug 18 12:24
schestowitz-pi2bblAug 18 12:24
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techrightsec5I have written to Bruce Perens now.  Can you please suggest to righty in IRC Aug 18 15:34
techrightsec5that he contact Bruce regarding the right to not have to use specific software?Aug 18 15:34
techrightsec5Bruce is working on the post-open licensing scheme to try to close suchAug 18 15:34
techrightsec5loopholes but would need a clear description of the problem, maybe withAug 18 15:34
techrightsec5examples too.  https://postopen.org/Aug 18 15:34
techrightsec5back in some hoursAug 18 15:34
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