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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Linux Mint 21.2 Beta Is Now Available for Download with Cinnamon 5.8 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Linux_Mint_21_2_Beta_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_with_Cinnamo.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Linux_Mint_21_2_Beta_Is_Now_Available_for_Download_with_Cinnamo.gmi ∎Jun 20 00:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Rockchip-based SBC runs on Android 12 ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Rockchip_based_SBC_runs_on_Android_12.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Rockchip_based_SBC_runs_on_Android_12.gmi ∎Jun 20 00:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Unifying the KRunner sorting mechanisms for Plasma6 & further plans ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Unifying_the_KRunner_sorting_mechanisms_for_Plasma6_further_pla.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Unifying_the_KRunner_sorting_mechanisms_for_Plasma6_further_pla.gmi ∎Jun 20 00:22
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Easy Effects – enhance your audio ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Easy_Effects_enhance_your_audio.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Easy_Effects_enhance_your_audio.gmi ∎Jun 20 00:23
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Five ways we can make LibreOffice and Thunderbird work better together ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Five_ways_we_can_make_LibreOffice_and_Thunderbird_work_better_t.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/19/Five_ways_we_can_make_LibreOffice_and_Thunderbird_work_better_t.gmi ∎Jun 20 00:23
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techrights-newsThe EPO’s NO-Career System Will be Scrutinised by a Tribunal, the ILOAT, 3 Weeks From Now | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/19/no-career-system-and-ilo/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/19/no-career-system-and-ilo/Jun 20 01:18
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techrights-newsβš“ [Meme] 'Independent' EPO/EU Courts for Patents | β™Ύ Gemini address: [Meme] 'Independent' EPO/EU Courts for PatentsJun 20 01:51
techrights-news[Meme] ’Independent’ EPO/EU Courts for Patents | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/19/another-klaus-grabinski-meme/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/19/another-klaus-grabinski-meme/Jun 20 01:52
techrights-newsYoung People Who Understand That Richard Stallman (RMS) Was Right, Even Long Before They Were Born | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/19/rms-was-right-gemini/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/19/rms-was-right-gemini/Jun 20 02:16
techrights-newsGemini Links 19/06/2023: Tale Of Two Unknowns and Perfect Home Lab | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/19/perfect-home-lab/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/19/perfect-home-lab/Jun 20 02:41
schestowitz-pi2"Most of them cite the unavailability of jobs offering desirable wages and working conditions." ☞ https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/youth-unemployment-soars-in-south-korea-as-young-opt-for-break-instead-of-job-seekingJun 20 03:19
schestowitz-pi2more people need to protest thisJun 20 03:19
schestowitz-pi2but putintok will then elevate malicious politiciansJun 20 03:19
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Security_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Security_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Raspberry Pi in Robotics and Some Retro ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Raspberry_Pi_in_Robotics_and_Some_Retro.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Raspberry_Pi_in_Robotics_and_Some_Retro.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Programming_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Programming_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Follow up to 'I booted Linux 292,612Β times' ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Follow_up_to_I_booted_Linux_292_612_times.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Follow_up_to_I_booted_Linux_292_612_times.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Ubuntu 22.04 Fixes Window Snapping Memory Bug ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Ubuntu_22_04_Fixes_Window_Snapping_Memory_Bug.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Ubuntu_22_04_Fixes_Window_Snapping_Memory_Bug.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Red Hat on Development ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Red_Hat_on_Development.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Red_Hat_on_Development.gmi ∎Jun 20 06:37
techrights-newsThe World Wide Web ’Blender’ | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/web-blender/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/web-blender/Jun 20 06:45
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/today_s_leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/today_s_leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 20 07:00
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techrights-newsThe Collapse of Reddit Helps Gemini Grow and the Message About Gemini Protocol Spread | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/gemini-grows-june-2023/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/gemini-grows-june-2023/Jun 20 08:27
schestowitz-pi2truly disturbing findingJun 20 09:16
schestowitz-pi2draft soonJun 20 09:16
schestowitz-pi2ok, check nowJun 20 09:16
techrights[sec]_LF is not just a mess but an actively harmful activityJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_apparently by Zemlin's designJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_checkingJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_s/This also/Their web site also/Jun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_or "Their web site also stopped serving web paqes, instead ..."Jun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_"DEI" needs expandingJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_s/may seem sexist/will get baited as being sexist/Jun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_?Jun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_You might point out that LF has become an organization that representsJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_its members interests within the kernel rather than actually promotingJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_and advancing Linux in the world.  There was a Bruce Perens link pointingJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_out that it had become a GPL infringers' club.Jun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_Many of the board members represent m$ partners, so the damage from M$ is moreJun 20 09:39
techrights[sec]_than just the three moles.  Jun 20 09:39
schestowitz-pi2typos? finalising...Jun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2editing a lot, tyJun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2inmtergrated all your changesJun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2finalising nowJun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2tyJun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2wait, adding perens urlJun 20 09:45
schestowitz-pi2final check, seems punctual nowJun 20 09:56
schestowitz-pi2publishedJun 20 09:56
techrights[sec]_checkingJun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2reaction: roy is sexist and pro-rapeJun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2"s/may seem sexist/will get baited as being sexist/Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2"Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2based on what?Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2GulagboyJun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2the homophobe and transphobe Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2[someone puts in coc complaint]Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2truth is "sexist"Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2DaemonFC: ^Jun 20 09:58
schestowitz-pi2DaemonFC: http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/microsoft-increasingly-controlling-linux-foundation/ Jun 20 09:58
techrights-news’Linux’ Foundation Increases Number of Microsoft Employees in the Board of Directors to THREE, the Only Geek in the Board Has Left (or Got Removed) | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/microsoft-increasingly-controlling-linux-foundation/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/microsoft-increasingly-controlling-linux-foundation/Jun 20 10:00
techrights[sec]_CoCs are for selective enforcement.  See the SoutEast Linux Fest anaylsis fromJun 20 10:00
techrights[sec]_some years ago.  Jun 20 10:00
schestowitz-pi2http://techrights.org/2022/04/15/code-of-conduct-in-action/Jun 20 10:00
schestowitz-pi2still relevantJun 20 10:00
schestowitz-pi2buried under easter holidayJun 20 10:00
techrights[sec]_The coalition will be taxing the fuck out of book purchases, thus ensuring thatJun 20 10:03
techrights[sec]_even fewer people can/will read especially in light of the downsizing and  Jun 20 10:03
techrights[sec]_closures of the libraries around the nation,  Jun 20 10:03
schestowitz-pi2next draft is about chinese weaponbJun 20 10:03
schestowitz-pi2promoted by murdochJun 20 10:03
schestowitz-pi2desantis.fuJun 20 10:03
schestowitz-pi2*fiJun 20 10:03
schestowitz-pi2boks are terrible for the environmentJun 20 10:04
schestowitz-pi2tax them to hellJun 20 10:04
schestowitz-pi2promote devices that last 3 years and have 8 coresJun 20 10:04
schestowitz-pi2and take up power 3 tiems a dayJun 20 10:04
schestowitz-pi2and promote climate change denierJun 20 10:04
schestowitz-pi2that'll fix everythingJun 20 10:04
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schestowitz-pi2adding tiktok refsJun 20 10:24
schestowitz-pi2i've put tiktok at top of filterJun 20 10:24
schestowitz-pi2will focus on itJun 20 10:24
schestowitz-pi2it grows while other social control networks fadeJun 20 10:24
techrights-news[Meme] Media Going Down the Drain | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/infighting-and-tiktok/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/infighting-and-tiktok/Jun 20 10:24
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techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today in Techrights ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Today_in_Techrights.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Today_in_Techrights.gmi ∎Jun 20 11:25
schestowitz-pi2New ONS numbers out. Deaths for latest week, as per the official (complete) numbers, up 11% compared to pre-COVID-19 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales/2023Jun 20 12:00
schestowitz-pi2drafy Jun 20 12:00
schestowitz-pi2deciddd to cover cocs againJun 20 12:00
schestowitz-pi2to mention irc trolls in passingJun 20 12:00
schestowitz-pi2A disease that causes very elderly people to die faster isn't as tragic as one that causes people in ALL age groups, even CHILDREN, to die in levels about 20% higher than before. That's COVID-19. It ruins the health of the population at ALL ages.Jun 20 12:06
techrights[sec]_checkingJun 20 12:10
techrights[sec]_They care little to nothing about the long term health of the population of Jun 20 12:10
techrights[sec]_any age, apparently.Jun 20 12:10
schestowitz-pi2esp. those who cannot buy private carsJun 20 12:11
schestowitz-pi2*careJun 20 12:11
schestowitz-pi2i.e. those without big salariesJun 20 12:11
schestowitz-pi270/hours weekhours/weekJun 20 12:11
schestowitz-pi2In Western society, very elderly people always died about 100 times more often than kids. With COVID-19, however, that slant that "they were old anyway" became a widely-spread regime lie. Regimes that passed lots of our money to companies that sold patented junk they had tested on mice for a few months.Jun 20 12:11
schestowitz-pi2The clawing back of the patents by Gates is horrible.  The institutions andJun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2companies got a lot of positive press for announcing that the untestedJun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2vaccines would be royalty-free.  However, that's not what actually happened,Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2thanks to His Billness.  Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_The clawing back of the patents by Gates is horrible.  The institutions andJun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_companies got a lot of positive press for announcing that the untestedJun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_vaccines would be royalty-free.  However, that's not what actually happened,Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_thanks to His Billness.  Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_Speaking of the latter, the appears to have gone into red China ahead of Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2Speaking of the latter, the appears to have gone into red China ahead of Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_Blinken and sabotaged the negotiations at least a little.  Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2Blinken and sabotaged the negotiations at least a little.  Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_Increasing the tax on books from 10% to 14% is a sure way to reduce literacy Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2Increasing the tax on books from 10% to 14% is a sure way to reduce literacy Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2even further.  Jun 20 12:18
techrights[sec]_even further.  Jun 20 12:18
schestowitz-pi2taxing billionaires is not fashionableJun 20 12:23
schestowitz-pi2they control elections cia "apps" nowJun 20 12:23
schestowitz-pi2billg went to see the jack or elon or huffman of zuckerberg of tiktokJun 20 12:23
schestowitz-pi2(or trump for a while)(Jun 20 12:23
schestowitz-pi2controlling the cycle of debates and discourseJun 20 12:23
schestowitz-pi2btw, see draft, i think i added enough footnotes...Jun 20 12:23
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techrights[sec]_The phrase is often "judge, jury, executioner"Jun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_Has the OSI quit being a Microsoft proxy?  The phrasing seems to imply so.Jun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_False accusations are made to distract from the core issues and deflect ontoJun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_those raising the issues.  https://dynamic.uoregon.edu/jjf/defineDARVO.htmlJun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/13/guide-darvo-gaslighting-response-people-give-when-called-baJun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_d-behaviour-12847680/Jun 20 12:29
techrights[sec]_"credibly accused" == social control media death sentenceJun 20 12:39
techrights[sec]_by brigadingJun 20 12:39
schestowitz-pi2editing..Jun 20 12:40
schestowitz-pi2last read now, then afternoon, nap, shower, recording :-)Jun 20 12:40
techrights-newsCode of Conduct: Still Falsely Advertised by Online Bullies and Serial Defamers Who Rely on Corporate Enforcers for Gate-keeping | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/code-of-conduct-is-censorship/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/code-of-conduct-is-censorship/Jun 20 12:58
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schestowitz-pi2i have a weird question to askJun 20 15:25
schestowitz-pi2if it common/possible/too rare forJun 20 15:25
schestowitz-pi2someone to be de facto state agent Jun 20 15:25
schestowitz-pi2without even being aware of itJun 20 15:25
schestowitz-pi2and be financially rewarded for itJun 20 15:26
schestowitz-pi2without even being aware?Jun 20 15:26
schestowitz-pi2like a corporate handJun 20 15:26
schestowitz-pi2that is secrectly guiding worker at the behestJun 20 15:26
schestowitz-pi2of the state?Jun 20 15:26
schestowitz-pi2i cannot think of a single "known" exampleJun 20 15:29
schestowitz-pi2but can see how from the state's POV it is desirableJun 20 15:29
schestowitz-pi2even in case of tortureJun 20 15:29
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Games: Dark Chess, DevilutionX, ProtoCorgi, GOG Summer Sale 2023, and Steam Next Fest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Games_Dark_Chess_DevilutionX_ProtoCorgi_GOG_Summer_Sale_2023_an.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Games_Dark_Chess_DevilutionX_ProtoCorgi_GOG_Summer_Sale_2023_an.gmi ∎Jun 20 15:31
techrights[sec]_I think the official term for that is an "asset"Jun 20 15:39
schestowitz-pi21. are they aware in any wayJun 20 15:59
schestowitz-pi22. known examples? url?Jun 20 15:59
techrights[sec]_There might be some good examples in the book, Charlie Wilson's War: The Extraordinary StoJun 20 15:59
techrights[sec]_ry of the Largest Covert Operation in History, there were a lot of Jun 20 15:59
techrights[sec]_cases studies there and it is relevant (I would guess) to fighting m$Jun 20 15:59
techrights[sec]_It's been 20 years though so I cannot remember details.  Jun 20 15:59
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schestowitz-pi2got question re msft layouts in about 4-5 weeksJun 20 16:22
schestowitz-pi2expect trolling to intensify around that timeJun 20 16:22
schestowitz-pi2companies that large cannot be finished quicly like NOVL or SiriusJun 20 16:24
schestowitz-pi2it's war of attrition, like against RussiaJun 20 16:24
schestowitz-pi2companies big liek these ought not even exist (china has those two)Jun 20 16:25
schestowitz-pi2novl and epo were 7k staffJun 20 16:25
schestowitz-pi2msft can fire 7k staff in one day and just carry onJun 20 16:25
schestowitz-pi2like russia, which is vast, there are connected states outside, like chinaJun 20 16:28
schestowitz-pi2like msft and "partners"Jun 20 16:28
schestowitz-pi2any little damage we do to them is a massive contributionJun 20 16:28
schestowitz-pi2bonus: msft is ALSO connected to SEVERAL states: http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/CablJun 20 16:30
schestowitz-pi2egateJun 20 16:30
techrights-newsReddit = Freenode/Leenode/Twitter 2023-2024Jun 20 16:35
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schestowitz-pi2not sure what to make of devault, i choose not to 'infight'Jun 20 17:18
techrights[sec]_checkingJun 20 17:40
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> drew devault: LF is too corporate. drew devault: FSF is too... not corpoJun 20 17:41
schestowitz-pi2rate-friendly. drew devault: OSI is... well, it doesn't want me, Microsoft bought it alreaJun 20 17:41
schestowitz-pi2dy. I'll roll out my own then...Jun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> His premise is not correct, but one can see where he's coming from (andJun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2he DID contribute a lot!) https://drewdevault.com/2023/06/19/Reforming-the-free-software-mJun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2essage.htmlJun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2-TechrightsBot-tr/#techrights- drewdevault.com | Reforming the free software messageJun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> the comments here are mostly good and appropriate https://lwn.net/ArticlJun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2es/935193/  (more in irc, but in irc only, not gem/https)Jun 20 17:42
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> openrightsgroup became immigration group instead of digital rights group. this is another example of this. ☞ https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/refugee-week-compassion-needed-at-the-home-office/Jun 20 17:43
schestowitz-pi2reminds me of eff entering aclu's laneJun 20 17:44
techrights[sec]_immigration or colonization?Jun 20 17:46
techrights[sec]_Squabbing with and competing against the ACLU takes the risk of addressing Jun 20 17:46
techrights[sec]_digital rights policy to zero.  Jun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2that does not matter as much as:Jun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2focus on your goal, supporters, skillsJun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2i warned you they hired the wrong peopleJun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2they just used the old name/infra/orgJun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2recycled org, splcJun 20 17:46
techrights[sec]_SPLC was gutted years ago and is now used to advance sharia againstJun 20 17:46
techrights[sec]_the original charter of anti-fascism Jun 20 17:46
schestowitz-pi2when you peddle genital mutiliation you lose many of your original backersJun 20 17:47
schestowitz-pi2they gradualyl walk awayJun 20 17:47
schestowitz-pi2better for waning/zombie orgs to "cork" themselvesJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2and prevent hijacking/misuse of the original outfitJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2anyway, re devault,Jun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2he made some great softwareJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2and i don't want to confront him, it would be misplaced effortJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2we already have limited capacityJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2my new workflow saves me lots of timneJun 20 17:53
schestowitz-pi2finalising daily links nowJun 20 17:53
techrights[sec]_It's disturbing to see the cognitive disonnance which has the same peopleJun 20 17:57
techrights[sec]_fighting Nazism (and rightfully so) yet at the same time advancing its closelyJun 20 17:57
techrights[sec]_related variant, islam.    Jun 20 17:57
schestowitz-pi2the ideologiers have overlaps but also many diffsJun 20 17:57
techrights[sec]_They both basically at the heart violent supremecist political movementsJun 20 17:59
techrights[sec]_Very, very few differences.  Both even have uniforms.Jun 20 17:59
techrights[sec]_In islam women are chattel like goats or chickensJun 20 17:59
techrights[sec]_or chairs or tablesJun 20 17:59
techrights[sec]_There was a lot of overlap and crosspolination between the two similar movementsJun 20 17:59
techrights[sec]_during WWIIJun 20 17:59
schestowitz-pi2tehir beliefs about women, birthing, etc. are very differentJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2and they come froma  different mindsetJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2i am not history buff, but if you look back 200- historyJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2maybe better analogies exist, maybe mongol hoardes?Jun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2*hordesJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2don't know their culture wellJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2*2000 yearsJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2lots happenedJun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2not much documented to date Jun 20 18:00
schestowitz-pi2tilting this back into topic (ish), "ORG" is (was?) credible ORGJun 20 18:03
schestowitz-pi2now run by and pushing people who may wish to convert the whole planetJun 20 18:03
schestowitz-pi2to a primitive religion, by force is necessary, not DawahJun 20 18:03
techrights[sec]_Trump basically gave nuclear weapons capability to a regime which has statedJun 20 18:05
techrights[sec]_that it is willing to kill off 80% of the planet in a war of aggression in orderJun 20 18:05
techrights[sec]_to enforce islam globally.Jun 20 18:05
schestowitz-pi2imho, we need national leaders EIGHTEEN (wunderkinder)Jun 20 18:05
schestowitz-pi2not EIGHTYJun 20 18:05
schestowitz-pi2as their preferences look further ahead, maybe more marins will comeJun 20 18:05
schestowitz-pi2"Were so adaptable. Maybe 1 percent of our current population of 7.4 billion could survivJun 20 18:06
schestowitz-pi2e, but 98 or 99 percent would not." EllsbergJun 20 18:06
schestowitz-pi2The great reset "codes"Jun 20 18:06
schestowitz-pi2guess who has money and shelters away from major landJun 20 18:06
schestowitz-pi2they play with space rockets tooJun 20 18:07
techrights[sec]_"survive" but at that percentage, civilization would not and withoutJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_any remaining raw materials, space would be out of reach and the species  Jun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_would eventually die offJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_"immigration" is a hot mess and the news media *AND* the politicians Jun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_intentionally ignore the human trafficking, overpopulation, climate, andJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_especially the transmigration-as-a-tool-of-war aspects.  They intentionallyJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_conflate refugee with settler and ilegal immigrationJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_and legal migrant, lumping them all into a confusing mishmash ensuring thatJun 20 18:11
techrights[sec]_there can be no rational debate because there is no clear topic to discussJun 20 18:11
schestowitz-pi2vetting in immigraton relies onm intel gatheringJun 20 18:12
schestowitz-pi2for the oligarchy, "scoring" and "profiling"Jun 20 18:12
schestowitz-pi2assimilation is a widely applicable phenomenonJun 20 18:12
schestowitz-pi2even the us "got it" in www2Jun 20 18:12
schestowitz-pi2sadly they also turned down actual refugeesJun 20 18:12
techrights[sec]_"magic dirt" is a racist ideology.  The US used to work towards assimilationJun 20 18:13
techrights[sec]_and integration but some influence has been preventing that from decades andJun 20 18:13
techrights[sec]_turning the nation into a bunch of separate, hostile, incompatible groupsJun 20 18:13
techrights[sec]_Social control media has been amplifying those problems.Jun 20 18:13
schestowitz-pi2if families were run like such a nation, it would be vastly worse than just a Jun 20 18:14
schestowitz-pi2divorce, like a sister secrectly getting 'insurance' on the botherJun 20 18:14
schestowitz-pi2by foring as sig as a "bailout" strategy (when he dies)Jun 20 18:14
schestowitz-pi2*forging (mandy)Jun 20 18:14
schestowitz-pi2<techrights-news> SFC has dumped Microsoft as a sponsor. Good. https://2023.fossy.us/sponsorship/Jun 20 18:14
techrights[sec]_Good for the SFC, that was long overdueJun 20 18:17
techrights-newsGemini Links 20/06/2023: Gemini’s Fourth Anniversary is Today | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/gemini-fourth-anniversary/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/gemini-fourth-anniversary/Jun 20 18:34
schestowitz-pi213 posts, 17 hoursJun 20 18:36
schestowitz-pi2i manage to keep abreast of goalsJun 20 18:36
schestowitz-pi2but still adapting to new processesJun 20 18:36
schestowitz-pi2gemini @ 4, we joined early, 1.5 years inJun 20 18:37
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The 20 Best Themes for Fedora Workstation ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_20_Best_Themes_for_Fedora_Workstation.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_20_Best_Themes_for_Fedora_Workstation.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): 6 of the Best Linux Distributions for Mac Users ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/6_of_the_Best_Linux_Distributions_for_Mac_Users.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/6_of_the_Best_Linux_Distributions_for_Mac_Users.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:44
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Security: WiFi Router Flaws, Istio 1.16 EoL, and Reddit is in Big Trouble ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Security_WiFi_Router_Flaws_Istio_1_16_EoL_and_Reddit_is_in_Big_.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Security_WiFi_Router_Flaws_Istio_1_16_EoL_and_Reddit_is_in_Big_.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:44
techrights-newsLinks 20/06/2023: Windows TCO on Steroids (Microsoft Incidents/Breaches and Resort to Political Scapegoating) | Techrights βš“ http://techrights.org/2023/06/20/microsoft-political-scapegoating/ | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.techrights.org/2023/06/20/microsoft-political-scapegoating/Jun 20 18:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Windows TCO Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Windows_TCO_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 Programming Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Programming_Leftovers.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Programming_Leftovers.1.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Today's π˜›π˜Άπ˜Ή π˜”π˜’π˜€π˜©π˜ͺ𝘯𝘦𝘴 HowTos ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/today_s_howtos.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/today_s_howtos.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:46
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The 7 Best SSH Clients for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_7_Best_SSH_Clients_for_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_7_Best_SSH_Clients_for_Linux.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): The 7 Best SSH Clients for Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_7_Best_SSH_Clients_for_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/The_7_Best_SSH_Clients_for_Linux.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Audiocasts/Shows: Destination Linux and Late Night Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Audiocasts_Shows_Destination_Linux_and_Late_Night_Linux.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Retro and Hardware Products and Projects With GNU/Linux Focus ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Retro_and_Hardware_Products_and_Projects_With_GNU_Linux_Focus.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Retro_and_Hardware_Products_and_Projects_With_GNU_Linux_Focus.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:47
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Debian and Ubuntu Leftovers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Debian_and_Ubuntu_Leftovers.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Debian_and_Ubuntu_Leftovers.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Events: Software Freedom Conservancy Runs FOSSY (Not Taking Microsoft Money Anymore), openSUSE.Asia Summit 2023 Call For Papers ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Events_Software_Freedom_Conservancy_Runs_FOSSY_Not_Taking_Micro.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Events_Software_Freedom_Conservancy_Runs_FOSSY_Not_Taking_Micro.gJun 20 18:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Firefox 114 on POWER and Microsoft Attacking Copyleft/GPL Under the Guise of Buzzwords/Innovation ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Firefox_114_on_POWER_and_Microsoft_Attacking_Copyleft_GPL_Under.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Firefox_114_on_POWER_and_Microsoft_Attacking_Copyleft_GPL_Under.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:48
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Gemini Articles of Interest ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.1.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Gemini_Articles_of_Interest.1.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:49
techrights-news➲ π•Ώπ–šπ– π•Έπ–†π–ˆπ–π–Žπ–“π–Šπ–˜ ⨦ (NEW): Turkish in GNU/Linux and Killer Frequency on GNU/Linux ⇨ http://news.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Turkish_in_GNU_Linux_and_Killer_Frequency_on_GNU_Linux.shtml | β™Ύ Gemini address: gemini://gemini.tuxmachines.org/n/2023/06/20/Turkish_in_GNU_Linux_and_Killer_Frequency_on_GNU_Linux.gmi ∎Jun 20 18:49
schestowitz-pi2Upcoming Series: Action Fraud (UK Police) Does Not Even Bother Responding to Elected Officials, Members of Parliament (Cops Accountable to Nobody, Not Tackling Government-Connected Crime)Jun 20 19:48
schestowitz-pi2see mailJun 20 19:48
techrights[sec]_checkingJun 20 19:49
techrights[sec]_what other courses of action are there?  why are the polic unaccountable for   Jun 20 19:49
techrights[sec]_whitecollar crime and fraud?Jun 20 19:49
schestowitz-pi2bt and email kept me busy this evening, will rush to bed soonJun 20 19:59
schestowitz-pi2i recorded the call with bt, but it's for personal siteJun 20 19:59
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