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Recent dselect experience
I am concerned at the current state of dselect. Part of the problem is
with the software, but the major concern for me is the poor reputation
this product has amongst the developers and users comments that I have
seen on the various mail lists.
It seems to me that we should be very careful in public to make only the
most positive statements about the package system including dselect. This
product is definitely still growing, but we do not contribute to it's
grouth by denigrating it's current state. The software can always be
"fixed", a reputation, on the other hand, is a delicately crafted
relationship. Once that relationship is damaged, that damage may be
irreparable. I suspect that Debian's reputation for late releases has
been at times supported as much by the Debian Group as by "outside
aggitators"
Preach mode off...
WRT dselect:
My primary objection to dselect's behaviors center around it's insistance
that, barring escessive force, it should try and install every file that
it can find with a .deb extension. I can deselect everything first and
things seem to go more the way I expect.
Second, when declairing problems or errors, or at other times, the
version information on a particular package is not available. Error
messages contain text like: ...problems in version of package... where
space was left for a version number but not available at error print
time. Having version information available on all packages.
Also, the packages file seems to have caused me problems from time to
time. I don't fully understand the purpose it serves for dselect but
there are several things that it doesn't do. Primarily, my experience is
that dselect doesn't pay any attention to the state of the system before
it tries anything. In cases where I installed the base packages by hand,
dselect failed to recognize that I had done so and made a terrible tangle
of an attempt to do it again. This poor integration with a current system
make upgrading uncertain at times.
WRT dependencies:
Several times during installation trials, large portions of the
installation would be complete before a file, required by a dependency is
either not found, or fails during installation. I'm not sure what to do
about failures, but files not found should be detemined long before
anything gets installed.
More will follow,
Dwarf
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