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Re: A rather radical beta-test announcement for you to consider



On Fri, 26 Apr 1996, David H. Silber wrote:

> > If we want to distinguish debian systems from non debian systems
> > yet also position ourselves as a base system which ought to be part of
> > other distributions, I think we shouldn't call what we produce a
> > "distribution" but a [package] management system, or something along
> > that line.
> 
> Ahh, that's a thought!   Perhaps ``Debian'' could be a distribution built
> upon our ``Linux Base'' package management system.  This would allow us to
> separate the name-space a little bit.  Users would be informed of ``Debian
> Releases'', while distribution maintainers and those who want/need to be on
> the cutting edge could be informed of package updates for ``Linux Base''.

David, I think you're the first person who's got this idea right (no 
offence, Bruce, but ...).  This would have the desired effect of 
providing the Base system, while detracting nothing from Debian itself: 
Debian would just be one of these `value added distributions', and a 
model for how we think other distributions should be put together.  Or 
does that sound too arrogant? - I'm not really into marketing, I'm sure 
it can be worded better by someone who is.

The only trouble here is that some work will be needed to split up Debian 
from the Base system - and if we want this to be a model for other 
distributions to follow, we *must* get it right first time ....  So on 
those grounds, maybe this should be delayed until 1.2, by which time we 
can write a proper specification which we then follow ourselves and give 
to other distribution maintainers.  [By coincidence, that process is 
analogous to my work with Braille access - the first release will be all 
together, then afterwards it will be split up and follow a 
not-yet-written spec.]

Nikhil.