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Re: Definition of "free" (was: New Package: defrag 0.6-1)

frankly, if I can't read the source of a software package, it's just a
not-quite-random collection of bits and not particularly useful to
me.  *every single program I run* has bugs; some major, most minor,
but without the source I can't *do* anything about it other than
whine. That's why I run debian; that's why I maintain packages
(perhaps not well, but I do it...) If we start dropping the source
requirements for main release packages, maybe it's time to just go
over to RedHat, since we'll have lost the distinctions that I think
actually *matter*...
					_Mark_ <eichin@cygnus.com>
					Cygnus Support, Eastern USA
					_Mark_ <eichin@kitten.gen.ma.us>
					The Herd of Kittens

ps. 
> Do you use the telephone? [how about ROMS?] [how about MS-foo?]

None of *my* telephones have CPU's in them.  The phone switch is a
service I use at an abstraction level that doesn't force me to treat
it as software (and I've used hardware-only switches, in the last 10
years even).  Even at that, there's an outstanding bug report on my
line (the operator couldn't break in for an emergency!)
	As for the ROMs: they weren't written in an HLL, so
disassembly will be about as useful as source -- and again, I can (and
have to - no sockets :-) treat them as hardware.  And no, I've never
used WP or MS-Word for *anything*; I used to use Scripsit and Wordstar
(the CP/M version, which was faster) and when I had to modify Wordstar
it was machine-code patching. It was really *unpleasant* not to have
source code.  Didn't stop me :-)

pps. And no, I don't use ferret either :-) It's nice of you to make it
available; I hope it is useful to others; but ferret is in contrib,
where it belongs, and I choose not to use it, since I can't fix any
part of it...

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