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Re: Definition of "free" (was: New Package: defrag 0.6-1)

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Brian C. White, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>I'm a major programmer, too, but I don't buy the "don't trust code I
>can't look at" arguement.  Have you read the source code for the ROMs
>in your computer?  Do you still use your computer?  Do you use the telephone?
>Have you ever read the source code for the telephone switch?  (I have -- it's
>awful.)    Ever user WordPerfect of MS-Word to write a letter?

If you look at my past message, you'll notice that I made a special
exception for bru.  I don't have the source code but it does a system
critical job that *must* be right and does it better than anything else
out there.

Also, the ROMs and the phone switch are hardware.  I also haven't
checked how the electron gun on my monitor works or even the chip in my
van.  Big deal.

And no, I don't use WordPerfect or MS-Word to write a letter.  I use
TeX.  I can still read and print out documents that I wrote on a VMS
system 14 years ago.  (I actually needed to do this about 8 months ago.)
Can you say the same about a document that you wrote in 1982?

>Have you ever read through the Linux kernel code or the code for the packages
>on your system?  Okay, you _could_, but have you?  All of it?

I've read through probably 80% or so of the kernel.  I've found it very
interesting at times.  I've looked at much of the software I've got
installed on here.  Admittedly, I don't look at the changes 

>> If I can't look at the source, it's not going onto my system.
>
>Better pop those ROMs, then.

Life is often a compromise.  I choose where to draw my lines and you
choose where to draw yours.  How about if we just agree to disagree?

Darren
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