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Re: paying our bills

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Bruce Perens <bruce@pixar.com> writes:

> 2. Make an Official Debian CD, sell it, and use the proceeds to pay
>    for services. This may or may not be good for the project. Not
>    having an official CD has not encouraged CD vendors to put copies
>    of Debian on their CDs any more than they have Red Hat, which has
>    an official CD.

I believe this is a good option.  The FSF is also a non-profit company
that does a few similar things to generate revenue.  That is, selling
books and official tapes (or whatever format they use now).
 
While I'm on the subject, I think the FSF may rely too much on
donations.  When selling their products, they tend to use the "we need
money" argument rather than the "these are good books" one.  I suggest
that Debian concentrate on making a good product rather than relying on
other people to make donations.  The act of asking for donations is
somewhat incompatible with promoting a product (even passive promotion).

If Debian licenses the production of the official CD to another
company or group, the decision should be well thought-out and we
should make sure that we can switch to another vendor if things don't
go right.

Dan

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