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Re: 1. RFD: Reorganization of the Debian Project

On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Dale Scheetz wrote:

> I agree with Lars on this issue. Craig's position declares Debian to
> be a developers distribution and I believe we are trying to target a
> larger audience than that.

no it doesn't.  my position is that we should make it easier for others to
use debian as we use it.


> Creating a "release" for the distribution does not stop "developers"
> or others from following Craig's path and does offer more
> reasonable access to Debian for the rest of those interested in
> installing/upgrading their Debian system.

focusing on the release as the most important thing about debian tends
to obscure the fact that you don't need to wait for a new release to
upgrade.

There's also the fact (at least in my experience) that the longer you
wait between dselect upgrades, the more problems you'll run into. Using
dselect or dpkg to perform incremental upgrades of a few packages at
a time seems to result in fewer problems than upgrading the entire
distribution in one go. There's less to go wrong, fewer conflicts
between versions (especially of important libraries etc).

> I will always argue for the most flexible distribution possible.

IMO, the most flexible distribution for debian is a monthly CD ROM.

Actually, something which is even more flexible than that would be
to have releases as we now have them AND have a monthly subscription
CD rom. There's nothing stopping us from doing both, assuming that
we either had the time to make the CDs ourselves or could find a CD
manufacturer (IConnect perhaps?) to do it.  The more people who subscribed
to the monthly disk, the more beta testers we'd have for the release.

So, how about the following for a release schedule:

    A Monthly snapshot CD-ROM _and_ A Quarterly release.

Craig



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