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Re: Is it time to abandon Dpkg?



(Oops, sent this only to Bruce last time...)

Bruce Perens wrote:
> 
> > Everybody seems to be complaining about the dselect interface, but
> > nobody has actually _done_ anything about it.
> 
> Well, it definitely needs doing. I'd suggest a better character-oriented
> user interface rather than an X one, as not all of our users run X, and there
> are other window systems on the horizion - X will eventually be replaced by
> something that runs Java directly to the display without all of the excess
> baggage and overhead of X.

Why not have both?  A good curses-oriented interface can ship with
dpkg.deb, and we can have dpkg-deliverance.deb as an optional package
in the x11 section.  (Okay, deliverance is a silly name, but it's
better than xdselect, right?)  As long as the X version is done by
Somebody Else, and is compatible with dselect, there shouldn't
be any problem.

> Since people seem to think dselect and dpkg are worth keeping, I think someone
> has to start working on a better dselect interface now. We're definitely
> snoozing on this issue, and if we don't do something about it we're gonna lose
.
> 

If the new curses interface is going to be radically different,
perhaps we should call it something other than dselect.  I'll
start making sketches--anybody got any suggestions?  This is the
perfect time to start making them.

--Galen


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