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Go with UPM, or fix these problems with dpkg/dselect?

> I dont think that RedHat would mind having something better than rpm. I
> guess the main reason they did not adopt dpkg was the evident
> deficiencies and the speed issue.

I think they're hard-coded into RPM for now. The biggest complaint of their
developers is that the package format keeps changing, so a 100% change might
be very ill-perceived. In comparison we are a lot more stable (for better or
worse).

I think the internal format of dpkg and its databases are not as
important as this problem list:

	Problem: Installation fails because of dependencies not met,
	batch installation of workgroups not possible, interactive
	configuration is spread over too much time, packages are not
	configured immediately.

	Solution:
		Implement selection-time configuration for dpkg
			Requires a simple database
			Pre- and post-install scripts should be
non-interactive.
			Requires very small changes to dpkg and dselect.
			Requires some effort (not much) by many maintainers.
		Configure packages ASAP during installation
			Requires selection-time configuration above.
			Configure as soon as all dependencies satisfied.
			Requires that packages be installed in dependency
order.
			Requires some significant changes to dpkg.


	Problem: The average joe doesn't need fine-grained manangement,
	Solution: Implement package sets
		Can be done with a shell and dialog front-end to
		"dpkg --set-selections".
		No changes to dpkg or dselect required.

	Problem: dselect's interface is worse than it could be
	Solution: write one or more front-ends for package management
		Requires some documentation and library construction.
		Requires that one or more people write dselect replacements.

	Problem: dpkg/dselect not internationalized
	Solution: add locales to every program by hand.
		Takes a lot of time, and more work for each language.
		We have a few volunteers, no coordinated effort so far.

All of this seems to be pretty independent of the archive format and the speed
of the database.

	Thanks

	Bruce


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