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Re: this is not what we need in a developer

On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:

> Winni:
> > To look like a commercial product but to "carry the torch of free
> > software" seems to me like to lie about the own parentage.
> 
> I don't think we can sustain developers with _this_ attitude.
> 
> 	Bruce

About a year ago, I started looking into linux as an alternative
to low end (old) sparcs for niche server requirements.  The two
most obvious selections at the time were RedHat and Debian.
Caldera didn't figure in at the time because I didn't have my own
budget and was funding the whole thing myself.  I subscribed to
both end-user mailing lists and chose debian for two reasons:

1) The dependency based packaging system was more mature than
what RedHat was trying to put together (but still had not
produced at the time).

2) The Debian mailing list was (mostly) free of the harshness of
RedHat's.  It was largely more informative and very much
friendlier.  There was an atmosphere that made the project very
attractive.  

Lately the tone of debian-devel has been a little brutal.  I
occasionally subscribe to the kernel list, which is truly brutal,
but in a very different way.  When Alan Cox refers to Linus as
"Pinhead" and so forth, and as these guys rip eachother apart on
coding and other technical issues, it is still apparent that they
have a reverence and respect for eachother.  The devel list is
probably bound to get a little hairy every now and again, but
Bruce is right about this particular type of post.  

Please do try to keep it in perspective.  And please also try to
keep any mud slingin' stuff out of debian-user.  Its Debian's
other biggest strength.

Just another FOD (Friend of Debian).  What exactly do we call
ourselves anyway?

Thanks

Richard G. Roberto
richr@bear.com
011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan


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