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Re: guaranteed technical support

Orn E. Hansen wrote:
> Steve Greenland, you wrote:
> >[SNIP]
> >>   support, mature development tools, and SMP.
> >             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >Gcc, gdb, flex, bison, emacs etc. aren't mature? Compared to
> >what? The computer crashing mess called MS Visual C/C++? Hah!
> It's silly wording, I'd say... should read 'High level development tools'.
> 
> And yes, there is a lack of those... except for, say 'xforms' which is

xforms, Qt, V, tk/rivet, suit, open look, java even, wxwindows, the
andrew stuff, amulet...  This list should not be considered exhaustive.

> And GNU software is good... but some parts are still in the same steps
> as they were years ago... and some are overdone, and not practical.

The development tools are pretty good tho.  If there's an area of free
software that gets stress-tested exceptionally well, it's development
tools.  gcc continues to be one of the best C compilers available, for
example.

> But, if Linux would come out standard with a high level motif like front
> end, to its functions... that was implemented in a fast language (not in
> script language), then the final shuffle for the DOS grave would have been
> dug. :-)  I'd sure buy motif, rather than Win95... wouldn't you?

The more point-and-click, the more mass-appeal.

Point and click that doesn't prevent experts from doing what they need
to do, is an ideal system.


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