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Re: Why not to use CVS



On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> ...you are expecting the testing team
> to check in deltas to CVS without going through the developer...

From: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <jaldhar@braincells.com>
> Well actually yes that is what I'm proposing.  At this point, the testers
> have the source anyway so they may as well check it in.  The less people
> making changes to the source tree, the less chance of an error or typo
> mucking things up.

I'd prefer the workflow go this way:

	1. Maintainer uploads source and binary package
	2. Testers test package.
	3. Testers submit bugs/patches to maintainer.
	4. If package doesn't have known bugs, or if it's an improvement on
	   the previous version and its bugs are non-critical, package is
	   moved to the "tested" distribution.
	5. Maintainer reviews bug reports and merges in patches.
	6. Go to step one.

What you are proposing appears to be:

	1. Maintainer checks package into central CVS archive.
	2. Testers test package.
	3. Testers file bug reports.
	4. Testers repair and rebuild package, and close out bug reports.
	5. If testers changed package, go back to step 2.
	6. Maintainer downloads changes made by testers and re-synchs his
	   own sources with CVS archive.

This assumes that the testers are interested in fixing the program, and
that it is easier for them to fix it than it is for them to submit bug
reports to the maintainer, and that they are competent to fix many
different packages without having much experience in their internals.
I don't buy it.

I would prefer to keep the maintainer in charge of any changes to the
program throughout the entire process.

	Thanks

	Bruce
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