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Re: What is necessary if we are to keep dpkg/dselect

'Bruce Perens wrote:'
>
>C. A sincere effort to implement a category-selection tool to replace
>   dselect for the casual user. A schedule for this effort, and regular
>   progress reports.

Has everyone looked at
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf/debian/selectmenu.tgz?

>If I don't see some progress in these directions, about two months will go
>by and then we'll bring up this same argument again. I'm going to stick to
>this issue until I see progress or we drop dpkg.

No, Bruce please don't threaten us like this.  If we can't do it, then
we need to find out what went wrong.  (I think your analysis of Ian as
part of the problem is accurate:  his "Custer's last stand"
maintainance of dpkg has been hurtful.)  Knee-jerk abandonment of dpkg
would not solve these problems:  I think you'd have more trouble
finding Debian developers to organize a switch to rpm than to improve
dpkg.  Just think about the logistical complexity of that switch for a
moment.  I think it is unhelpful to suggest destructive things to the
Project.

Bruce, although I see the advantage in being an agitator sometimes, I
think this issue is not the place to do it.  Please, please never even
hint at the idea of switching to rpm again.  I for one never want to
see those words from you or anyone else ever again.  Constructive
suggestions on merging the advantages of dpkg and rpm would, of course,
be appreciated.

-- 
Christopher J. Fearnley            |    Linux/Internet Consulting
cjf@netaxs.com, cjf@onit.net       |    UNIX SIG Leader at PACS
http://www.netaxs.com/~cjf         |    (Philadelphia Area Computer Society)
ftp://ftp.netaxs.com/people/cjf    |    Design Science Revolutionary
"Dare to be Naive" -- Bucky Fuller |    Explorer in Universe


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