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Re: Open letter to Martin Schulze

richard@a42.deep-thought.org (Richard Jones)  wrote on 26.03.97 in <m0w9sCz-0024xTC@a42.deep-thought.org>:

> I think that possibly a split would be good.  Clearly many people have no
> problem with their leader giving them a hearty "Fuck You".  Personally I

At this point, I see someone doing that, and then apologizing. There's  
some other problems I had with Bruce's efforts, but this one got resolved.

On the other hand, I see people like Joey send stuff that I can only  
interpret as a completely undeserver flame, and when called on it, he  
seems to be convinced he could not possibly have done anything wrong.

That's a fast way to lose my respect.

> found it distasteful.  Whatever happens I thank Bruce for getting Debian to
> where it is, but I suggest he needs to reach a concrete decision on what his
> plans are, since the resignation I have seen him flip-flop between various
> stances, in fact so many times that I am unsure of his current position.

This is a problem. However, the loudest opposition suffers from the  
opposite problem - they seem to think that they got The Truth[tm].

It's an easy decision for me. Under no circumstances do I want to trust  
people who own The Truth[tm].

Incidentally, I had some bad feelings about some of the now-loud people  
even before Debian got into trouble. I see no need to go into details  
here, except to say that this also contributes to my feelings in that  
matter.

Now, if I had to choose between Bruce on one hand and people like the two  
Ians, David Engel, and so on on the other side, then Bruce might well  
lose. As it is, the choice is more like Bruce and most of the developers I  
trust, against some I mostly remember for uncomfortable feelings reading  
their mail. I said it already - that's an easy choice.

MfG Kai