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Re: THOUGHT: New 'user-contributed' section?

Hi,
>>"Andreas" == Andreas Jellinghaus <aj@dungeon.inka.de> writes:

>> I have said it before and i will say it again - upgrading regularly
>> from unstable leads to far less problems than waiting for the next
>> official release. Not only are there less problems overall, but you
>> get less of them at any one time.

Andreas> that's why we will have a tested distribution: less bugs, but
Andreas> nearly up-to-date.

	This maybe optimistic.

>> allowing anyone to upload leaves the system wide open. The ease of
>> subverting the system will invite attacks...it will be an
>> inevitable certainty rather than just a possibility.

Andreas> user-contrib should have a status equal to unstable, to
Andreas> should be seperate. this way everone knows : "it was packaged
Andreas> by a user, maybe insecure", but testers and developers can
Andreas> look at it, and move it to unstable / tested.

	Why should it have equal status? Are we going to do the
 security validation of maintainers for *nothing*?  Why would you
 think that somebody that has not made the commitment to Debian that
 the maintainers have is likely to take equal care in packaging
 things?

>> my point was that if unstable is unusable because of the potential
>> for trojans then i will have lost the ability to upgrade at
>> will. Tracking unstable with dselect (either via ftp method or from
>> a local mirror) is IMO the most important 'feature' of debian.

Andreas> ok, in future you will track tested on most machines, not
Andreas> unstable.

	Depends on the performance of the testing group.

	manoj
 being pragmatic.
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