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Re: FreeLinux project



On May 28, Dale Scheetz wrote

> Personally I am not attracted to centralized source management schemes.
> The approach is just too fascist for my tastes. Considering how many of
> the complaints about the packaging system have to do with "constraints" on
> what can and what can't go into a source file, I would be surprised if
> additional controls can be made to work within an "open" development
> model like the one used for Debian.

Hmmm. Every time I encounter a badly assembled Debian package 
(ucbmpeg being the latest, still apparently libc4 and old source format) I
think, "Hell, this is sloppy, we need more rigour in the Debian project".
I'm beginning to think that if being called fascist is the worst that'll
happen, we should go for a far more rigid set of rules on what can and
can't go onto the FTP site:

a) if dpkg-source -x <foo> doesn't extract working, buildable source,
   it doesn't qualify. This means no more old style tarfiles.
b) if the source doesn't compile cleanly (preferably with -Wall & 
   -Werror where possible) it doesn't qualify.
c) if the package conffiles break some existing configuration without
   at least checking and informing the administrator, it doesn't qualify.
   Recently I lost all module support because of a broken package.

Quite honestly, some of the discussion on this list has really 
put me off the idea of Debian. It's getting to the point where
I'd rather get the original sources down and integrate them into
my system by hand, than rely on packages with broken dependencies,
broken security bugs and broken configuration. What use is a logo
if it doesn't work?

Now, I know we're talking about free software here, but doesn't
anyone have any pride in what they do anymore?

Jon.


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