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Re: open hardware certification document: second pass

On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Bruce Perens wrote:
> 2. A non-disclosure agreement must not be required to gain access to the
>    documentation.

No, wether it is ok or not, only depends on how the NDA is handled.
As long as the NDA does not prohibit that you publish the sources that 
you derive from the documents an NDA is acceptable.

Manufacturers often only want to protect themselves against their
competitors and you have to explain to them what free software is all
about. Then it is normally no problem to get an NDA that is tailored to
your needs. I did that twice and it works very fine.
 
> 3. Where the device is offered with packaging and/or instructions in a
>    national language, the documentation must be available in that language
>    as well.

That is not acceptable for most manufacturers, for many it would mean that
they have to translate all their internal documentation into a dozend
different languages.
 
> 4. The documentation must be available via one or more of these methods:
> 
>    A. As a document published to the global internet and expected to
>       remain available while the device is offered for sale. The server
>       must not levy any fee for access to the documentation. The
>       document must be in at least one of these formats: HTML, plain
>       text, PostScript, or PDF.
> 
>    B. In a published book currently in print and available at bookstores
>       in any nation where the device is offered for sale, selling for a
>       price not substantially more than similar technical books.
> 
>    C. By mail from the manufacturer, for no more than the cost of
>       duplication of materials, shipping, and a handling fee not to
>       exceed US$20 .
> 
>    D. In the same package as the device when it is sold, as a paper
>       document or a data file in HTML, plain text, PostScript, or PDF
>       format.

     E. Available per email upon direct request.



Mike


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